"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods and they are unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones." -- Marcus Aurelius
I believe he was an early Stoic. He is right about memories being the source of life after death, because the whole concept of a spirit or soul is in your head.All the folks that have now passed, if they meant something to me, live on in my head with fond memories. The soulless live on, too, as those who cause you harm have effectively taken a dump in your brain.
@@dthomas9230 watch{John Safran vs God} us Aussies already proved Holy God to be real,Demons shit scared of Lord Jesus Christ and his Holy Father,your bit of Evil you are born with does not want you to pickup the Holy Bible,see if you can and read it.Dawkins christian illiterate easy to take down if subject was open,communist-evolutionist he is the most danger as he can't count.Death awaits the fool that does not repent.
The respect that you and Richard show for each other is wonderful to behold. Neither of you is insulted to be challenged, and you patiently allow each other to fully explain your positions without excessive interruption. Well done, as usual, Alex. Thank you for this series of videos.
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people. For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it. Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots! For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they can. They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism. Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth, stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him. No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't be in their shoes. No respect for them.... I told you this godless is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel. WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:... those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty, (they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them. (They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism, that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit. You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or later... Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest, empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and they will pay for it, and even badly........ They are so desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you. Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation, and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid, nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak)......... God will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it). NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person). It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!..
03:15 "im sorry for you having to do a degree in this kind of thing... its not a real subject isnt?" getting this instead of a straight answer seems disrespectful to me, but i guess thats my opinion.
As a kid who grew up in a rural Christian area but thought very logically, I questioned everything I was told. I was quickly taught to "fear God" so much that I became deathly afraid to keep questioning it. As a very young child, when the people you trust most tell you that you'll burn for eternity (after explaining what eternity means) if you keep asking questions, you stop asking questions and you fear everything those people tell you to fear. I moved out of that town at 18 to go to college. By 20, without the influence of small town Southern baptism, I had met enough atheists that I felt safe questioning things and realized quickly that I never once believed a word of it. Turns out, I was just terrified to even think about it. The Christian indoctrination is basically "instill fear at the core of this person's identity when they're developing children" whether they know it or not. It's the ultimate blasphemy to teach people such fear and convince them that it's love; then they grow up thinking that by using anger to instill that same fear in their own children, they will legitimately believe that they love their child by making that child terribly afraid of some vague nonsense concept completely detached from the world they live in. It keeps people afraid, it skews the perception of love, it prevents people from caring about the world around them, it gives you the most screwed up idea of what it means to be a good or bad person, it completely destroys your ability to think critically or question things...it's just absolutely despicable. It's vile and I hate it so very much. Christians want to be good people, but their instructions may as well have been given to them by their devil copying God's handwriting.
And getting told by your nearest and dearest throughout your childhood that you will be thrown into a lake of fire for something you cannot help may have something to do with it
Alex, I admire the way you interview people. You're critical and you aim to be objective and fair to both sides, and you respect the people you interview. Even though I don't share your worldview (I am a Christian), I think everyone can learn a lot from how you conduct these interviews. Keep up the excellent work!
As-Salamu Alaikum. Peace and blessings of God to all mankind, the children of our father Adam (as) and our mother Eve (as). Dear brothers and sisters, I have a message for you. I would appreciate it if you read it. If you are 20 people, and only 1 of them is on the right path while the other 19 are misguided, and they do not listen to that 1 person but rather get angry at him, that 1 person stays quiet. This will not make those 19 people right; they will still remain wrong. Therefore, the truth is known to the one who listens and accepts the best of what they say, who protects himself from the evil in his heart, and who welcomes good things. The majority of people in this world are misguided, chasing their desires and negligent of God. If you follow these misguided people, you will not harm God in any way; rather, you will end up hurting yourself. The life of this world is just a blink of an eye, and the true home is the hereafter, where we have to live forever. Therefore, those who consider this world to be everything will make you heedless of the hereafter, and you will suffer a great loss. So, brothers, do not follow those who are heedless of their hereafter and are chasing their desires. These people will be ruined on the Day of Judgment, and they will also ruin your hereafter. Brothers, save yourselves from the regret of that Day when a person will wish to return to the world just once more, to believe in God and perform good deeds. But what can be done now when the bird has already eaten the crop?
One of the most profound Catholic theologians of the 20th century, Henri de Lubac, wrote a book called "The Drama of Atheist Humanism". In the book, he did a very Thomist thing: in order to truly respond to the proponents of atheist materialism, he started by examining their thought in great depth. Otherwise he would only have been responding to his own preconceptions about atheistic materialists, and he knew this. Alex O'Connor seems to me a person professing atheism who extends that same courtesy to Christianity. He tries to understand it before responding to it.
Bear in mind that Christianity is one religion among many, and it would be impossible for any atheist to examine every religion's truth claims in detail. Simply knowing that science has refuted the existence of a historical Adam and Eve is enough to seriously undermine Christianity. No original sin, no need for vicarious atonement.
@@k-3402 Adam and Eve is a oral creation myth, like all ancient cultures had. Fundamentalist Christians would like it to be historical fact, but many many Christians couldn't care less. Its truth is much deeper than mere historicity.
@@k-3402 - How has "Science" refuted the existence of a historical Adam and Eve? Researchers can go back 100,000 - 200,000 years to the original human being(s), how exactly? This sounds like a claim based in Faith. Not proof. What about if there was an "Adam", then an "Eve", especially since Adam in the Hebrew moreso stands for "hu/mankind"?
"Parents don't own their children. You are the caretakers of those children. You are instilled with a responsibility to raise responsible members of society and to teach them the minimal things that they will need to carry on a productive life when you're not around." -- Matt Dillahunty
Nonsense. Children do owe respect and allegiance to their bloodline, ancestors. Destroying the family first goal Illuminati. Collapses Cohesion.and now Parental rights of minors being collapsed.
I disagree. Parents DO own their children (after all they are their products), and the classics which you cite so eloquently would say the very same thing.
@@petervan333 But you don't own a child like you own a table. People should not, for instance, be allowed to use their children for free forced labor the way most people do.
@@saphireblue3563The way most people do? Most people use their children for slave labor? Really? If this is the case, the world is more fucked-up than I thought.
When this concept was created it was to get people to follow the priestly caste as they were trying to create a nation and a national identity for a group of middle eastern people who were conquered over and over again. Church is apt for modern day religion. But not accurate for when this was made up.
@@DinoDiniProductions I don't go to "church", I know I was born in sin, because inside me is a man who wants to be all about myself, and a man who wants the good and right which is self sacrificing and compassionate. If I were born good, no struggle would have existed.
@@DinoDiniProductions atheism has no good or bad. It's void of meaning and destination. It actually undermines rationality, no hope. And hope is powerful in the human experience
I'll say again: I'm a Christian and I appreciate the way in which you challenge things. Not as colorful as Hitchens and not as vitriolic as Dawkins. Straightforward, good-faith arguments. Thank you.
Seriously, Dawkins clearly has a lot of deep-seated malice towards Christianity, it makes me think he its more of a personal grudge than a philosophical disagreement
@@diaryofnricom163 Yawn, please if you want to debate which ideology brought more harm or benefit, especially to the West sure we can do that but if you think that's Christianity especially compared to anti-theist ideologies of today's wokes/progressives or 20th century commies sure, but it won't be Christianity. And he is right, usually people like Dawkings have some personal issues with Christianity and it's rarely based on something rational. At least Hitchens was honest about that.
@@bencarlson4300 any rational, reasonable, and moral person, would have a lot of deep-seated malice towards Christianity. It is, and always has been, a detrimental delusion that holds us back as a species. It has value as a personal grudge, it has none in philosophy.
Think of the idea. You have roughly 80 years on earth. If you don’t get it right during that 80 years, having not a shred of evidence outside a book that reads horribly and brutally, the father that loves you will either burn you for all eternity or allow you to kiss his feet for all eternity. Who on earth would ever do that to one of their own children who they truly love? Nobody! It’s absurd on its face.
For the greatest part of human history we didn't even have 80 years but more like only 30-40 years. A 50 year old person in ancient Egypt, the Roman Empire, the Middle Ages, and well into the 19th century was a venerable senior citizen. Even today there are still parts of the world where average life expectancy is 60 at best. Which makes your argument all the more grave.
But that is actually the point. When you lived such a short and at times brutal life , no wonder eternal life seemed so enticing. With us living till we are 80 or 90, we've usually done it all and have no real desire to live forever. It's not a carrot religion can dangle in front of us anymore.
An equally absurd statement. I can assure that at age 80 or 90 and offered to die today or live on, you will choose the latter, and not say "I've had enough." (This presumes good health of course, which is a standard for any age.)@@simonreich5028
"...the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many." Matthew 20:28 "This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins." Matthew 26:28 "I lay down my life for the sheep." John 10:15 C'mon, guys.
"Many passages attributed to Jesus have him predicting the end *within his generation* (“the time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Repent and believe the good news” (Mark 1:15); *“this generation will not pass away* until all these things take place” (Mark 13:30); *“truly I say to you, you will not finish going through the cities of Israel until the Son of Man comes”* (Matthew 10:23); “Truly I say to you, *there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death* until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power.” (Mark 9:1); "From now on, you shall see the *Son of Man* coming in the clouds..." (Matthew 26:64))." Jesus as a failed apocalyptic prophet is the general consensus of critical scholarship, *even critical Christian scholars* like Dale Allison. The Son of Man (Jesus himself?) was supposed to be an end of the world arbiter, as Bart Ehrman points out in his lecture referenced below, and as the Bible states he was supposed to come *within the lifetime* of Jesus’s followers. *It didn't happen.* Read the article from the former Christian apologist and Tim O'Neill (former Christian), who has been studying the scholarship and history for decades, referenced below as well. *Jesus falsely prophesied his return in the 1st century* “Truly I say to you, ***you will not finish going through the cities of Israel until the Son of Man comes”*** (Matthew 10:23); For the *Son of man* shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; ***and then he shall reward every man according to his works.*** Truly I tell you, ***some who are standing here will not taste death*** before they see the *Son of Man* coming in his kingdom Matthew 16:27-28 Truly I tell you, ***some who are standing here*** will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God Luke 9:27 Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Mark 13:30 The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken. Then will appear the sign of the *Son of Man* in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the *Son of Man* coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Matthew 24:29-34 There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time they will see the *Son of Man* coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near. When you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near. Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Luke 21:25-32 *Jesus promised to return over 2, 000 years ago and he still hasn’t.* Jesus and the angels never appeared from Heaven, the stars never fell from the sky, none of these things happened. Nothing he prophesied happened. ***Apologists can try to spin this, but the simple fact is that Jesus was either wrong or misquoted.*** According to the Bible that makes Jesus a false prophet or misquoted (and if Jesus is misquoted than the Bible is not inerrant or the word of God) How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord? If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken Deuteronomy 18:21-22 *Jesus falsely prophesied to the high priest and the Sanhedrin* Jesus also falsely prophesied to the high priest and the Sanhedrin (assemblies of either twenty-three or seventy-one rabbis appointed to sit as a tribunal) You will see the *Son of Man* sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and ***coming on the clouds of heaven*** Matthew 26:64 Mark 14:62 Except the high priest and the Sanhedrin never saw Jesus sitting at the right hand side of God, or coming on the clouds of heaven, or any such thing. *Jesus falsely prophesied to Nathaniel* Jesus also falsely prophesied to Nathanael when he declared, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel.” Jesus said, You believe because I told you I saw you under the fig tree. You will see greater things than that. He then added, ***“Very truly I tell you, you will see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man*** John 1:50-51 *Nathanael never saw any such thing. Neither did anyone else.* *"13x Jesus was wrong in the Bible - Life Lessons"* The following quote from Stephen L. Harris, Professor Emeritus of Humanities and Religious Studies at California State University- Sacramento, completes this point with a devastating argument. *Jesus did not accomplish what Israel’s prophets said the Messiah was commissioned to do:* He did not deliver the covenant people from their Gentile enemies, reassemble those scattered in the Diaspora, restore the Davidic kingdom, or establish universal peace (cf.Isa. 9:6-7; 11:7-12:16, etc.). Instead of freeing Jews from oppressors and thereby fulfilling God’s ancient promises-for land, nationhood, kingship, and blessing- *Jesus died a “shameful” death, defeated by the very political powers the Messiah was prophesied to overcome.* Indeed, the Hebrew prophets did not foresee that Israel’s savior would be executed as a common criminal by Gentiles, *making Jesus’ crucifixion a “stumbling block” to scripturally literate Jews.* (1 Cor.1:23) Watch *Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet, Historical Lecture - Bart D. Ehrman* ------------------------------------------------------------------ Also, look up the following. *"End Times - Evil Bible .com"* *"The End of All Things is At Hand - The Church Of Truth"* *"ex-apologist: On One of the Main Reasons Why I Think Christianity is False (Reposted)"* *"Jesus the Apocalyptic Prophet - History for Atheists"* (Tim O'Neill is a former Christian and is familiar with most of the Biblical scholarship. He's been studying the scholarship and history for decades) *"Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return - Black Nonbelievers, Inc."* Also, how cognitive dissonance possibly explains early Christianity. *“The Rationalization Hypothesis: Is a Vision of Jesus Necessary for the Rise of the Resurrection Belief?”* - by Kris Komarnitsky | Κέλσος - Wordpress *"February 2015 - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"* - Isaiah 53 *"Jesus and the Messianic Prophecies - Did the Old Testament Point to Jesus? - The Bart Ehrman Blog"* *"Did Jesus Fulfill Prophecy? | Westar Institute"* *"Jesus Was Not the Only “Prophet” to Predict the Destruction of the Temple - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"* *"What Do the Apostles’ Deaths Prove? Guest Post by Kyle Smith. - The Bart Ehrman Blog"*
@@epicofatrahasis3775 You and I have a very different interpretation of what Jesus did and didn't do. That's OK but. You sound like I did when I was a teenager.
Gandhi could have easily said the same thing if he lived back then having any inclination they were gonna kill him. “My death will inspire many to become more loving” that’s all those passages mean. It’s written in first century poetry. “Forgiveness of sins”. Yeah I mean they even write Jesus forgiving his enemies while being crucified in Luke. It’s quite clear that his martyrdom will be an example of unconditional love which is forgiving even the worst people. But the way it’s written in the gospel sounds more profound and deep than what I just wrote.
Agreed. Dawkins is brilliant in some areas. But he really seems out of his element here, and comes off as out-of-touch and dim. There is no curiosity, no willingness to learn. Simply stamping his foot in the ground and demanding that you remove yourself from his lawn.
@@wannahockachewie897 Are you really suggesting he should have learnt the imagined, made up stuff that sherperds believed in 2000 years ago when there is a universe of truth to be discovered in and with science???
1:38 - "Surely he never said 'my death is necessary for you to be saved from sin'" *Matthew 26:28* "For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins." This is interpreted by many Christians as an indication that Jesus saw his death as a necessary sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins.
Your Jesus Christ person, was murdered because he was making outrageous claims and positioned himself as a King and the son of a King. He was murdered because he wouldn't shut up and stop teaching people that he is the "ONLY WAY." It doesn't matter what reason he said he was being put to death! He was put to death for being a raving lunatic. If he died for the reason he says, then people would never be considered to be sinners ever! That bill having been paid with his life!
I definitely agree with him on this. Sure you could say original sin is a metaphor for how no human is perfect and that we all fall short of our moral judgements, but what it's actually saying is humans are inherently evil and we are obligated to surrender our freedom to this supposed god. It just sounds like the perfect manipulative technique, selling someone the cure for an illness they don't have.
Yup. Snake oil for the masses. Blame the victims for not doing as God instructed them to do in order to bring the kingdom and peace to earth. Classic victim perp roll shifting.
I don't understand. What is the difference between humans being "imperfect" and "falling short" and humans being in some way "evil", other than emotive language? That's all it says. None of us is perfect and atonement of some kind is needed in order to be better. If you take out the religious language of "sin" and "redemption" it suddenly becomes a lot less controversial
@@mxzyzptlk We know. They don't. They place religious connotations to these concepts. Personally, i do not accept the word evil. It is a subjective concept. Good and bad. Right and wrong. We do not need definitions for trafic lights to understand what they are and mean. It does not matter why they use red, yellow and green. What matters is that we all understand what they are and mean. Now, apply this rational to other concepts. Easy, right? No. Some want to argue about the words used to identify a concept rather than debate the concept itself. I am so sick of this subjective crap. It's monotonous 😒
@@mxzyzptlk Humans being imperfect is normal, it is part of our nature. Christianity says that there is something wrong with us and we need to need to surrender to god to get rid of our evil. At least that's the impression I am getting.
Dawkins says to Alex ``I`m sorry for you having to do a degree in this kind of thing!`` but you see this is what makes Alex unique, how he is willing to learn and intellectually entertain ideas that he doesn't belief. And that makes him one of the best!
Dawkins is saying that, “He’s sorry” only because he wants to dismiss it as nonsense and move on. He’s sorry that he is having to address this because in his mind it’s all complete foolishness.
@@dward8738 It really confirms that he doesn't know what he is talking about in this subject, that he doesn't care to know, and that any person with a functioning brain should not take his ideas in this subject seriously. The fact that people STILL continue to take Dawkins seriously on this is just depressing. He's a great biologist. He is not a great writer or thinker on religion. His opinion is no more valuable than your friend's in the pub. And yet he's still droning on and on to people who keep lapping it up.
The problem with Richard Dawkins is that he just doesn't get it. "How could you stand it?" "Why would I study theology?" - to him, the religious mode of thinking seems to be not accessible at all. Which is fine on a personal level - but he shouldn't be going around making definite pronouncements on the nature of religion and religiosity when he cannot fundamentally understand it. Alex, on the other hand, can fully access the "machinery" of religious thought, get into that mode, and understand it - which shows that you don't have to be a believer or religious to do so. That is why anything that Alex as an atheist says about religion and faith is infinitely more insightful than anything Dawkins says on the subject.
Ive watched a handful of debates from dawkins and hitchens (mostly hitchens admittedly) over the years. But their distaste for religion seems to lead to a lack of understanding of it. There have been countless times when Hitchens has related a passage from the bible or simply stated a belief that X religion holds to make a point, only to have gotten it wrong. If he feel he needs to educate himself on a topic hes attempting to dismantle i have no interest in listening to him speak about it.
Very well put. I don't mind when people disagree or make arguments against Christianity. But it bothers me when they're lazily inaccurate or intentionally frame things to sound ridiculous. The truth is these guys find the very concept of God stupid and only pursue reasons that support that opinion. And to me that's just as bad as a Christian who believes but only because the idea is comforting. If I wanted a religion to comfort me and entertain all my vices, Christianity would be the last thing I'd pick. I'd just like both parties to at least try and represent the other as accurately as they can and in good faith. Unfortunately, many times you get oversimplification, false truth and sarcasm on both sides.
Both Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens have both read the bible and have a good enough understanding to debated religious scholars. Where are yall getting they dont know what they are talking about? Can you please give an example where something they said is objectively wrong?
"The problem with Richard Dawkins is that he just doesn't get it." Yes, Dawkins, like all atheists, just doesn't get it. What would you think if somebody told you that they believe in unicorns and have spent 3 years studying them? You would probably be as flummoxed as Dawkins is about people who study religion. Of course he doesn't get it. Why would he? He thinks it's a load of rubbish (and I agree). Naturally, if somebody spends three years studying a load of rubbish, people are not going to understand why someone would want to waste three years of their life doing that. As Dawkins says in the video "It's not a real subject is it?"
And now explain why in the face of this human history, not believing in this specific god is the only sin, that cannot be forgiven, while all the other cruelties humans commit can be.
Exactly, but never mind history. Check out the now. If human beings weren't essentially fallen and corrupt (whether you take that theologically or metaphorically), you would expect the world to look quite different. But in fact, it's a seething den of iniquity, saturated with gross injustices that stem from our avarice, power-lust, and violence. Assuming that human nature is good goes against ALL the evidence.
@@TgfkaTrichter if you think you are allowed to do such things while believing in the specific God ,you can be certain your specific God is the wrong God.
@@jensbekaert166 we only know of this specific god, cause his followers have done those things in his name. Without those deed, Christianity would have never become a big thing. Also if you believe you are doing gods will, then everything is allowed, this is also clearly shown in human history and can still be witnessed today.
It's so obnoxious to see Alex make thoughtful philosophical points just to have them dismissed by Dawkins with comments like "I'm sorry you had to do a degree on this" and "it isn't a real subject".
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people. For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it. Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots! For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they can. They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism. Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth, stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him. No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't be in their shoes. No respect for them.... I told you this godless is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel. WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:... those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty, (they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them. (They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism, that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit. You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or later... Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest, empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and they will pay for it, and even badly........ They are so desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you. Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation, and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid, nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak)......... God will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it). NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person). It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!...
@@cmp6 except western civilisation wasn’t built on dungeons and dragons. We’ve got so complacent and comfortable we’ve forgotten where the western world came from. We’re willing to ridicule and mock it. Meanwhile the rest of the world still has tradition and culture, that they are extremely proud of. And they’re laughing as we commit suicide. So ye, keep thinking it’s as important as Dungeons and Dragons 🤦♂️
@@H.L.S.98 You could definitely study the effects of religion on society but seriously studying religion as if it were real is like studying dungeons and dragons. Are you upset we no longer follow the Aesir? What paganism? That tradition was lost. You all are always focusing on the past and becoming too complacent to worry about the future. I hear too many people saying they do not care about GW because God will fix it. History is full of traditions that we no longer follow because we deem them arcane for good reasons. Just because something is a tradition doesn't mean it is good. Should we sacrifice things again?
There is something very genuine about Alex’s quest for Truth that is most admirable, no matter what your religious worldview happens to be. Dawkins does make the occasional concession, but he still seems more pessimistic and reluctant to truly understand the other person’s perspective
Religious people have been misrepresenting and deliberately misunderstanding Dawkins’s discoveries and thoughts for decades. HINT: a selfish gene is not a gene making people selfish.
I agree, we see it clearly when he brings up that he doesnt think that Jesus ever said himself that he's salvation for humans. Dawkins just says "surely he never said that", but Alex actually tries to see it from every perspective to find truht as you say
@@bradkelley8732 Go learn what this means: And Jesus answered them saying, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
Sin originally meant to be off the mark, or not true to your character. The idea is that you can fail to recognize your unique, distinctive role in society, in another words to remain unconscious of your self.
@@knffL-l4vEverybody is part of another set within society, separate from your own set that you are a member of. Russel's Paradox addresses mathematical sets, but societal sets are family, unions, fellow class members at school, even passengers on a plane are part of a set of travelers @ 36,000 ft above ground. If you're part of a set of folks riding an elevator behind closed doors, it would be a sin to fart.
Hi. The path to this is not direct. I would perhaps start with the myths of creation. Books of Marie Louis von Franz would be, but not exclusively of some help. This subject trully is full of riches and goes beyond, destroying prejudices.@@mary-gael7633
@@S.D.323yeah because scientology came about at the turn of recorded history. Totally not to be compared to the Christian faith. The faith that says we all are equal before a Holy God who has died for us that we may know his salvation. A humble God whaaat? That the proper world view is that this world is broken and we even with all our science can't come to an agreement on morality? It's almost like life should be measured based off of something infinitely transcendent and all our morality should come from there... That all men are created in the image of God. To love our enemies unto death as our leader has. God.
Alex is as sharp as a Samurai's sword. I'm not religious nor am I am atheist but I can definitely appreciate Alex's objectivity, honesty, and assertiveness.
@@driftlock98 I'm not religious because I find a lot of doctrines and dogmas problematic. I'm not an atheist because I see what appears to be intelligent design everywhere, and not necessarily perfect design or a perfect designer. I'm not sure about anything.
"Human nature is inherently sinful and the only way to redeem yourself is to believe in a specific doctrine" was the dogma Dawkins was discussing. Alex's response of "well maybe sin just refers to human nature" is a frustratingly dumb response. It doesn't address the second part of the dogma and it frames basic human behaviour as problematic. He is a grumpy old man but I don't blame him for insulting theology.
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people. For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it. Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots! For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they can. They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism. Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth, stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him. No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't be in their shoes. No respect for them.... I told you this godless is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel. WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:... those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty, (they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them. (They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism, that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit. You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or later... Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest, empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and they will pay for it, and even badly........ They are so desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you. Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation, and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid, nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak)......... God will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it). NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person). It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever! .
@@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people. For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it. Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots! For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they can. They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism. Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth, stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him. No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't be in their shoes. No respect for them.... I told you this godless is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel. WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:... those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty, (they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them. (They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism, that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit. You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or later... Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest, empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and they will pay for it, and even badly........ They are so desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you. Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation, and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid, nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak)......... God will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it). NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person). It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!. .
@@y5angerThen do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people. For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it. Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots! For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they can. They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism. Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth, stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him. No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't be in their shoes. No respect for them.... I told you this godless is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel. WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:... those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty, (they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them. (They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism, that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit. You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or later... Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest, empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and they will pay for it, and even badly........ They are so desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you. Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation, and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid, nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak)......... God will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it). NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person). It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!...
As a little child I could not get my head around all the contradictions. I couldn’t understand the notion of Jesus hanging on a cross meant we could be forgiven. Where is the logic?
@@Thunderwake.Jesus was an amazing historical figure and should be treated as such.Its the Catholic church and its twisted narrative of Jesus and his mother that indoctrinated me.Biggest cult on earth,which tried to claim Jesus as its own.😢
I'm just going to be polite here, but if you do not understand the sacrifice of Jesus and what it meant, then I highly doubt you read any of the Bible to any serious degree or no one actually explained it to you. The New Testament makes it pretty explicit as to the importance of it and what it meant to Jews at the time.
@@bloopboop9320 Funny, Dawkins is a highly intelligent man, it doesn't make sense to him either, or myself, both having read more Bible than most Christians. It's the perfect description of an abusive relationship. No one will ever love you like I do, so obey me or I will torture you forever (and I read minds, so be careful). Just to make things more interesting for me and challenging for you, I will give vague and contradictory directives. Good luck!
The logic is that his sacrifice is so big (for the father to come and be along his children and not glaze at us from above, wow how loving) that he atones for our sinful nature and us accepting him allows us to reach the gates of heaven.
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people. For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it. Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots! For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they can. They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism. Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth, stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him. No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't be in their shoes. No respect for them.... I told you this godless is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel. WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:... those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty, (they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them. (They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism, that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit. You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or later... Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest, empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and they will pay for it, and even badly........ They are so desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you. Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation, and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid, nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak)......... God will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it). NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person). It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!...
Would a "higher power" demand the worship of lower beings under the threat of eternal punishment or is this just how a lower being believes a higher power would act?
When it comes to "punishment" for all eternity in He'll it really is not God doing it to us it is what we cause to ourselves. God does not desire for anyone, ANYONE to perish. That's why he set things up for Jesus to take on the WAGES that we've earned so that we wouldn't have to face them, and also if Jesus had simply died on the cross and not rose up from the grave then it would have been meaningless his death on the cross. All there'd be is a dead savior who can't save anyone that death would have conquered. So basically if a person rejects him they would remain doomed to perishing.
Eternal.punishment is a Roman Catholic teaching and NOT what the Bible teaches. The Bible teaches man is mortal and must die however Jesus offers eternal life in the RESURRECTION to all who believe in him. All unbelievers will receive their judgement on Judgement Day and will be annihilated in the Lake of Fire (Gods pure Holiness unrestrained) Rev 20:10-15. Our God is a CONSUMING FIRE. IT IS A FEARFUL THING TO FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE LIVING GOD......unless you have accepted Christs death for your death and put your complete faith in him. Christs righteousness and holiness is then given to us that we too may enter Gods HOLY PRESENCE AS CHRIST DID AND IS CURRENTLY STILL IN HEAVEN, BEING OUR ONLY MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN. God said from heaven 3 TO 4 TIMES in the Gospels , 'This is my BELOVED SON, LISTEN TO HIM."
No one can die for the sins of another. To make it so is an effort to keep man in chains. To redeem himself, a man must accept full responsibility for his own actions or inactions, that he alone was the cause of his shortcomings. There is no other way to attain spiritual freedom. There never has been and never will be, no matter what anyone may want to make you believe.
@@KononR-gz4vo All we can do is what we can do. Sometimes, people do less than what they could do and think they've done enough. To believe that nothing we ever do is good enough, and we require something external to us to be "good enough", is sick and also, I think, wrong.
@@Big_Thony - My dear, I removed my above comments ... As for Jesus, he is not God, because (one reason) God can't die, and Jesus died. ☝🏽 Moreover, to make God to have a form or bodily image makes it easy to deny His omnipresence, and is defined as idolatrous in the Torah (Exodus 20:4-5; Deuteronomy 4:15-16). In addition, I am convinced that the way of salvation, being made right with God, is by doing the will of God for the glory of God as is taught in the Hebrew scriptures (the Tanakh). The New Testament is not a reliable source, as it has been corrupted by early church scribes. Paul's words that the Law was done away with, makes him a false prophet. 🙏🏽Regards
@@JelenaO-y2f - ♥️ *My dear, this has to do with FAITH IN GOD.* ☝🏽 We are saved by God's mercy and grace. In the Hebrew scriptures, the blood of animals was for unintentional sins (mistakes) only. It was not for deliberate sins. An example is King David's great sin. He was not told to sacrifice an animal for his deliberate sin. David declares in Psalms 51:16-17, *"For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise."* As for the New Testament, again I will say it is not a reliable source for faith and doctrine. Human blood sacrifices have always been condemned by God in the Hebrew scriptures. That God as a Judge would have the innocent man pay for the crimes of the wicked, is not Justice at all. THINK ABOUT IT. Hence the New Testament claims of Jesus an innocent man having to shed his blood for the world is a foriegn idea against the Hebrew scriptures. If we sin it is clear in the Hebrew scriptures that we go directly to God, repent, and strive to keep His moral laws for His glory. He is ever merciful and will empower those who try. That's it. ☝🏽No human blood sacrifice is needed. The prophet Micah declares this perfectly - *"Wherewith shall I come before the LORD, and bow myself before the high God? shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves of a year old? Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, or with ten thousands of rivers of oil? shall I GIVE MY FIRSTBORN* [a human sacrifice] *for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?"* (Micah 6:6-8) May we all do this, Regards 🙏🏽
Professor Dawkins is one of my current heroes of freethought. O'Connor is a new shining star. I was born into the LDS (Mormon) faith, though I am now atheist. Mormons, though as much misguided as any religion, are one of the more (comparatively speaking) intelligent Christian groups. I recently purchased via Ebay a book on the ancient Persian religion of the Avesta (Zarathustra). This religion focuses less on its god (Ahura Mazda -Wise Lord) and more on behavior. Its main teaching is "good thoughts, good words, good deeds". It teaches that we are free to choose our actions but are responsible for all of them. This is far more an enlightening belief than the vulgar bestiality of the Bible. Harrison Cother (The Truth Hurts) is a Jehovah's Witness turned atheist. He made a beautiful comment. "It is better to have questions you can't answer than answers you can't question".
"Mormons....are one of the more (comparatively speaking) intelligent Christian groups" Sorry I had to laugh. 😂😂 You mean the folks who go around preaching 'Great Apostasy' without a shred of evidence? Sorry, where evidence of such an enormous claim is validated by a 'burning sensation in your bosom'.
@@YourTypicalThomist I have never heard of Horn or Akin; I shall have to check them out. As for W.L. Craig, he is a most unintelligent man with rather stupid ideas. I have yet to be impressed with anything he has to say. My reference to Mormons being smarter has to do with their numerous universities -BYU -about the globe. So long as a belief; e.g. evolution or the non-Israelite origin of Amerindians, does not contradict with their ideas, they tend to have a fetish for learning. I attended Ricks College -now BYUI -in 83' -87' and was deeply impressed with them, though I was agnostic at the time. (no one knew this.) They also tend to support various school programs and -as I have experienced on both the giving and receiving ends -they have an EXCELLENT welfare program. They also run some medical facilities and teach at these as well.
Saying Mormons are smarter has got to be a joke right? 😆 🤣 The same Mormons who claim the supposed 'Great Apostasy' occured and can provide no evidence for this enormous claim? I mean other than the very objective pain sensation in their chest.
I am a Christian and I can tell you this… Alex O’Connor is one of the only atheists that is truly grappling with arguments and the Bible. The more I listen to people like Dawkins and other new atheists the more clear it is that they are arguing from a point of disgust rather than reason. It’s the same thing that some Christians do, but he is happy to point it out when they do it.
My mother was born in 1911 told me she read the Bible to decide for herself if religion had any validity. She was 17 when she read it, ( in 1928 when the majority population had a religious faith ) . She said it was the most disgusting book she ever read, full of murder, rape, incest, deceit etc. that she never knew about. “ Just a lot of stories written by old men ( no women) to indoctrinate the population”, and through fear , made to believe we’re all born of original “sin”. The mechanism is to have POWER over their subjects promising redemption if they follow their religious leaders and THEIR teachings. Her father must have her prompted to read the Bible as he went to France in World War One (from New Zealand) believing in Christ , and came back an Atheist , and also a staunch anti-royalist. It’s not hard to work out why he changed his beliefs.
Being Christian, I think it depends on how you read the Bible. Sure, there are many horror stories but there's also the love story of Songs of Solomon, there's salvation in Christ Jesus in the Gospels, there's Creation of the world before sin in Genesis 1 etc. It doesn't simply matter what's there (as evangelicals and Baptists may be tempted to think), it's also about it's overall meaning and how to historically understand each verse. I flipped my Bible to random pages over the last few days - and ended up reading chapters from Jeremiah, Joel and Zechariah. These prophets predicted destruction, death, and the LORD's anger on His people. The chapters, however, also had a message of revitalisation and rebirth. Although the prophecies were full of horror, (1) there's a very positive element you might as well talk about alongside that, and (2) contextually, these prophets lived in dangerous times including during the Exile. With God's people having been captured, exiled and subjugated in foreign lands with no Temple - many a Jew would see this prophecy of chaos and destruction as related to their experiences. Instead of dismissing this as dark, horrible and a case for oppression, they may have accepted it as their reality, their lives, part of the human idea of suffering. In other words, I don't think seeing the Bible as a tool for oppression does the most justice to the context of Scripture itself.
@@jackbaynes3959 There’s lots of love stories in Shakespeare too , of which many plots were based on fact and his own life experiences. . But that doesn’t mean they’ll all factually true.
@leylandbarr7247 I recommend buying a few books which might change your mind. There's a whole world of Bible-testing that most Christians rarely seem to talk about. Read: Justin W. Bass "The Bedrock of Christianity" Lee Strobel "The Case for Christ" Read pp. 792-819 of Novum Testamentum Graece (Nestle-Aland 28th Edition). That's a list of manuscripts that built the New Testament, which verses, the dating and where to find them. There are many that attest to the truth of the events, more manuscripts and better dating than the ones most ancient authors wrote.
@@matswessling6600 - I don't think he accepts the truth. He has admitted that he wouldn't acknowledge the existence of God no matter what evidence he was presented. As a Christian and lover of science myself, I strongly believe in the principle of falsification. There are several scientific discoveries that would cause me to be an atheist (eg, if the universe was eternal, if the multiverse exists, if life on other planets exist). If I were taking to Dawkins, I would suggest that, if he had no way to falsify his unbelief, he hadn't thought about it hard enough. I suspect that would make him mad. But someone in his position should surely have an answer to the question, "What would falsify your unbelief?"
2 Thimothy 2:24-25 "A servant of the Lord must not quarrel but must be kind to everyone, be able to teach, and be patient with difficult people. Gently instruct those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change those people's hearts, and they will learn the truth." So, you don't need to *argue* with people.
@@andywong9847andy, so you cannot give evidence of Evolution being observed while it's happening either? . Evolution is a faith-based religion for those who choose to forget God.
It's a profound and unbelievable change when you shift from 'faith' in God to 'knowing' God is there. God will bless you in unimaginable ways when you turn to Him and say you want Him in your life. Then when you see how He's working in your life, it goes from 'I believe' to 'I know without a shadow of doubt'. It cannot be explained unless you pray and ask God to come into your life and that you're willing to change and not live an earthly life full of giving into temptation. It's a gift you want everyone to have. Every Christian has a testimony that will blow your mind.
@@DAMIANWHITE-z2b Well a BELIEF would inherently be about the SELF. But as a Christian you're actively in the community helping people. We run an outreach team for the homeless. We run foodbanks for those in need. We give, help and spend everyday wanting to overcome the things we were doing wrong the day before. With the tone of your comment I feel like you have a negative history linked to Christianity otherwise you're behaving completely irrationally.
@@SamSam-wd2nu Well arent you special. Give yourself a nice little pat on the back. You are aware, I presume, that there are many organisations that do all the things that you mention here that are not christian or have any connection to any religion. I see you put the little christian judgement at the the end and call me irrational. I have nothing against christianity and christians in general, but I do get a little tired of listening to boring, judgemental, arrogants bigots like you. Have a lovely day.
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people. For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it. Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots! For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they can. They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism. Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth, stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him. No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't be in their shoes. No respect for them.... I told you this godless is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel. WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:... those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty, (they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them. (They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism, that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit. You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or later... Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest, empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and they will pay for it, and even badly........ They are so desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you. Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation, and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid, nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak)......... God will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it). NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person). It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!...
@@SamyasaSwiThen do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people. For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it. Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots! For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they can. They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism. Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth, stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him. No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't be in their shoes. No respect for them.... I told you this godless is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel. WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:... those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty, (they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them. (They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism, that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit. You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or later... Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest, empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and they will pay for it, and even badly........ They are so desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you. Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation, and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid, nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak)......... God will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it). NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person). It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!...
It's strange that Dawkins feels sorry for Alex or anyone I guess, studying religion. I'm not a believer myself but it's an absolutely fascinating subject and one that has affected all aspects of human society whether actively now or in our history. If nothing else the philosophy contained within it, good or bad, is interesting in itself.
Plz read the King James Version.New Testament to.find out what Jesus said and taught. It is all you need and a willing humble heart open to Gods Spirit. Pray to.God to open your spiritual eyes and ears and to teach you. This is the way to eternal.life , to know the one true living God and his Son the Lord Jesus Christ.
3:12 Dawkins can't admit that he is not able to answer the question and that perhaps Alex has a point here, and instead basically says that the whole subject (and Alex' degree) is stupid.
@@gavinmcewen5896 2:50 Alex argued: "... not all Christians would say that a newborn baby is born in sin in the sense that they are responsible for it. It's more like [the're] born with a propensity towards sinning, which I imagine you would agree with; that newborn babies, even though they haven't committed immoral acts yet, they're born with this sort of this human nature, which has a predisposition towards doing things that fall short of our moral standards, maybe." It seemed Dawkins couldn't answer, and instead decided to say :"I am sorry for you to having to do a degree in this kind of thing ... its not a real subject is it?"" It's hard to disagree with the point that we do seem to be born with a predisposition or propensity "towards doing things that fall short of our moral standards". I don't think I am twisting things. That being said, I personally don't agree with the Christian/Protestant idea that humanity is totally broken - at least this is the Protestant/Evangelical idea of Original Sin - the Catholics on the other hand think humanity - or the "image of God" in humanity - isn't broken, but stained, which I think is a much nicer view, (though I am an apostate / ex Catholic myself and don't believe the Christian dogmas in the Creed to be (literally) true. In my view they are myths). But I do think that on some level there is something good and pure in all beings that can neither be broken nor stained, that we are basically good on some deeper level, but that we somehow have lost contact with that part of our being. But I guess this is a kind of religious thought, too ... and I can't prove it.
@@mailillthe idea of good and evil is man made made, its doesn't exist in nature, its just a way to explain the world created in pre enlightened times.
@@snowflakemelter1172 Don't forget we (humans) _are_ a part of nature. If something is man made, it means it exists in nature, even when we talk about our moral instincts (one could argue moral instincts are not man made) or our evolved cultural "intersubjective truths" or about good and evil (based on the moral instincts). Edit: clarification
If we are born with free will, we have the potential to sin but that's a personal choice because we have free will and aren't destined to sin. However with kids, they do not know all about society's rules, values, weaknesses, nuances... They know what seems to work to get their needs met without understanding why and the possible impact. So I'd say a baby is probably going to sin, not because it wants to but because it doesn't know what a sin is. A baby is doomed to fail in that sense. Is that being born in sin? At least it is involuntary.
I'm not religious, and I can see that RD's cynicism gets in the way of his objectivity. To nitpick the phrase "born into sin" and interpret it literally by questioning what a newborn baby has done to "sin" rather than see that it is clearly highlighting the fallible nature of humankind is a pedantic counter-argument. In the end, a person's inability to recognise a wisdom other than his own indicates an affliction of ego.
it's not really a nitpick when sin is used by the religious to justify the monumental suffering of, among other creatures, sinless infants. including cases in the bible where god orders children to be slaughtered. you're not giving Dawkin's argument it's due here. if anything, i'd say your optimism about religion gets in the way of your objectivity if you *don't* think a doctrine of inherent sin is overwhelmingly negative and pessimistic. it has little to do with RD's arrogance and more to do with just how dismal and manipulate a system it is to say, "all are inherently sinful, if you don't subscribe to my particular take on absolutely everything"
Alex and Richard are both atheists. But that is about where the similarities end. Dawkins has never allowed himself to 'put on my mind of a theist' so-to-speak. He's never allowed himself to imagine, 'what is it like to be a theist?'. He's so deeply afraid of the question his repulsion is palpable. Alex has no such fears. In fact, the question fascinates him. He has taken seriously the beliefs of 99.9% of all humans through history (that the world is created by a supernatural being) and is willing to engage that idea. Chalk and cheese, the two of them!
Yes. Dawkins refuses to give any semblance of respect to theism. Alex, unfortunately, does. Theism flirts with some interesting questions but it offers exactly zero answers. Alex is happy to entertain the questions, Dawkins cares about answers. To suggest that it's "fear" on Dawkins' part is, to put it politely, fucking moronic. It's two different styles by two different people. Neither are right or wrong, Dawkins is just more right.
You are either right or wrong; you cannot be more right. In this case, whoever’s approach you enjoy more is subjective. Neither can be right or wrong on how they approach disagreements. Me, personally, enjoys Alex approach more though.
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people. For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it. Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots! For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they can. They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism. Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth, stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him. No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't be in their shoes. No respect for them.... I told you this godless is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel. WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:... those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty, (they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them. (They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism, that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit. You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or later... Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest, empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and they will pay for it, and even badly........ They are so desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you. Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation, and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid, nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak)......... God will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it). NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person). It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!...
@@betadecay6503Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people. For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it. Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots! For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they can. They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism. Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth, stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him. No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't be in their shoes. No respect for them.... I told you this godless is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel. WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:... those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty, (they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them. (They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism, that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit. You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or later... Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest, empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and they will pay for it, and even badly........ They are so desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you. Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation, and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid, nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak)......... God will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it). NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person). It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!.
@@eduardomartinez545Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people. For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it. Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots! For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they can. They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism. Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth, stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him. No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't be in their shoes. No respect for them.... I told you this godless is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel. WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:... those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty, (they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them. (They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism, that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit. You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or later... Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest, empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and they will pay for it, and even badly........ They are so desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you. Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation, and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid, nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak)......... God will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it). NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person). It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!...
In all my years as a Christian (Protestant from the Netherlands) nobody ever talked about original sin. BTW Hell and devils were considered metaphors for evil.
I am an atheist, but I think there is some wisdom in believing that humans are born in 'sin' (I would use the word 'corruptible'). The more we value humans individually, the less we value humans collectively.
@@cerdic6586 who has science (History of compared religions is part of Analytical Psychology) doesn' t need religion or atheism (because they are bias).
When a Cuckoo pushes it’s competitors out of the nest, is it sinning? We’ve developed a brain, that enables us to exploit situations to our advantage. Vicarious learning accelerates it. We do it daily-constantly. Through education and example, we are are able to modify our behaviour, developing personal principles of appropriate behaviour. Some will abide to these principles more than others. Our upbringing and experiences may impact whether we do “bad” things. Sometimes we do them because we can. Sometimes we can get better. That’s the wonderful thing about being human-you can stop being an arsehole and improve. No God is required.
Some times it seams that the system was designed by someone from the department of motor vehicles. Stand in the right line , fill out the paper work correctly, pay the fees ,take the write test ,take the road test and bob’s your uncle ,you get a license to heaven.
That's called legalism and is not what Catholicism is. Picture humans as wild dogs roaming the streets. God is inviting us inside his incredible home with a beautiful yard, guranteed food and shelter and all that. But in order to live with God we have to give up some of our wild nature. We can't pee all over the furniture or fight other dogs or bite people. Some of us aren't willing to give up that wildness and instead rather die painfully in the street. Hell is God saying "ok, you've made your decision and I am honoring your free-will."
@@JoeyG-o8r Hence my use of “sometimes it seams” . The fact that my observation has a known “ism” would suggest that it is a valid perception of how some religions conduct their actual on the ground processes. And certainly there are those in the audience,if I may, who behave legalistically. My original comment is not limited to Christianity but rather by human nature. There is more to grace than a catholic flea bath, to push your analogy.
"Millennia ago, they abandoned their belief in the supernatural. Now you are asking me to sabotage that achievement, to send them back into the dark ages of superstition and ignorance and fear? NO!" -- Patrick Stewart as Captain. Jean-Luc Picard - Star Trek The Next Generation
I revere the character Captain. Jean-Luc Picard as the pinnacle of what makes a good person. The greatest possible good is always the goal, but an entities right to exist and live free of oppression outstrips most matters. A good person will not stand by for things that cannot be justified to them. A good person will always take into account as much relevant information as possible, not only for fear of perpetrating an injustice but also because of a genuine, zealous passion for righteous acts and the betterment of all who would be concerned.
@1:30 the angel told Mary to name her child...as we know today in english...Jesus. That name actually means Yahweh Is salvation.@2:30 you may be an atheist but you are right@8:20 if science is timeless why does it change as our knowledge increases
I don’t always agree with you Cosmic Skeptic but I can see why you continuing on this path is beneficial to many people both Christian and atheist alike, you represent our side to the other side very well that it makes them think and vice versa, if anything it pushes for a mutual understanding of each others views so as to help both sides not talk over each other, God bless
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people. For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it. Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots! For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they can. They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism. Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth, stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him. No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't be in their shoes. No respect for them.... I told you this godless is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel. WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:... those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty, (they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them. (They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism, that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit. You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or later... Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest, empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and they will pay for it, and even badly........ They are so desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you. Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation, and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid, nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak)......... God will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it). NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person). It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!...
The more of Alex O'Connor's videos I watch, the more I notice how he panders to the Christian idea that there is a God. Dawkins was very tolerant of the mental gymnastics in this clip. I can't agree that O'Connor represents atheists well.
"For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another:" - Romans 2:14-15. It isn't about a set of words you repeat after the Sunday school teacher. It's recognizing you are helpless in your sin, and committing to the service of The Creator of All Things with understanding that your impurities are cleansed by faith in Him.
My favourite example of evil is Psalm 137:9 'Happy is the one that seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks' . ...I have even had clergy try to suggest to me that in the right context there are situations in which bludgeoning infants to death on the rocks due to some crime or other of the parents, can be acceptable, further exposing a whole other level of evil that exists within religion!
So god sent himself to die on the cross to forgive us for a sin that we didn't commit??? Even then he could have just forgiven us???? How stupid is the whole story!
It is actually childish and disgusting at the same time.Very, very strange combination.I have read Quran recently and it is actually way worse than the Bible.In Quran you have threats by hell on literally every page.Extremly disgusting book.
@@Darko.Damjanovic "Extremly disgusting book." Hey, considering modern liberal push for normalising pedophilia, castrations and various other perversions you can think of. Even Quran is better than modern liberalism and leftism...which is funny because even Dawkins IMO realises that and he watsed so much time criticizing Chritianity when it could have been used to focus on West's actual issues.
Once you realise that all religious texts are written by men it all starts to make sense. In the modern age all ideas are questioned to the nth degree. In the past certain ideas were put above others and not questioned. And that is how they have lasted. Apostasy is the death knell for any religion.
It’s not that we are “born” in sin. No infant is guilty of sin. We are born spiritually dead. Born alive physically but dead to God. Adam was created in the image of God, and he died in the very moment that he sinned, but his death was a spiritual death. The spirit of God that was breathed into him upon his creation departed making him a dead being. As a result humanity is born into this world in the image of Adam. Jesus’ death was for the forgiveness of sins for all humanity but it is through faith that we receive His spirit and are made alive to God. Hence, being born again.
Searching for the truth in circles …. No one has a clue what is going on …. Debate, discussion, it doesn’t matter, no one knows what this reality is all about , no one !
@@binderdundit228 thank you - I do know him yet in my view this is all a mystery and humanity is not being included in this discussion. No one knows honestly. That is my personal conclusion obviously.
Maybe some of these guys can help with good ideas: Lao Tzu (Te Tao Ching, Modern Library) Eugen Herrigel (Zen in the Art of Archery) Mauro Biglino Reza Aslan Robert D. Hare Carl Jung (Basic Writings, Modern Library) Jeanne Avery (The Rising Sign) John Maynard Keynes
I think youd find that truly no one does know whats going on- and that IS the position of Atheism or Agnosticism. Christianity attempts to claim they "know whats going on" whereas the scientific conclusion is that we don't know whether or not a god exists
I remember I was young in sunday school when they taught me about Sodom and Gomorrah. That's when I started thinking. The bible was a guide for immorality, not for morality.
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people. For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it. Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots! For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they can. They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism. Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth, stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him. No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't be in their shoes. No respect for them.... I told you this godless is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel. WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:... those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty, (they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them. (They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism, that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit. You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or later... Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest, empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and they will pay for it, and even badly........ They are so desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you. Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation, and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid, nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak)......... God will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it). NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person). It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!..
perhaps you should read Ezekiel 16: 49-49. The sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was not sodomy. it was inhospitality to strangers (along with worshiping false idols). .
@@FriendofDorothy it wasn’t just inhospitality, they did absolutely brutal things. In Sodom, you weren’t allowed to help out the poor. Once there was a young girl who tried to give bread to a poor man in secret but the people found out. They tied her to a wall, covered her with honey, and they released bees on her. They ate her up
At least there is hope for Alex. It's too bad that when Dawkin was presented by the idea that human could have "fall short" of the higher standard, he simply refused to consider the idea (perhaps, he must have think highly of himself) and patronized Alex for studying in theology.
@@andywong9847 how is that connected with the statement above or how does it prove it "half true"? Respecting someone has nothing to do with them being "right" or "wrong" on some issue, at least it absolutely does not have to be. One can respect two people with opposing opinions to each other.
As a Christian, I have a lot of respect for Alex. He's the kind of atheist I wouldn't mind having a beer with sometime. Richard Dawkins, on the other hand, is the Ken Ham and Steven Anderson of atheists.
So because you don't agree with Richard (who was a creation of God), you simply dislike him and not love thy enemy? That is not the way you are supposed to be according to the instruction manual.
you would fraternize with someone like Alex. But Richard on the other hand, you would not. Perhaps it's not that you don't love him, it's that you speak lowly of him in comparison of someone who thinks as you do. Someone who opposes your world view, isn't someone you want to even be near. But I do wonder, do you love Richard Dawkins? or Marvel comics for that matter?@@MarvelGamer2023
Dawkins is so right. Many people don’t get him or don’t want to for some self destructive reason. It seems like people always try to make simple truths rather complicated for themselves.
@@chakvetadze9169 > Alex showed it was not No, he didn't. He just gave a more reasonable interpretation, with no attempt to argue that it had anything to do with the intended meaning.
@@AlexanderShamov So, here is what's going on: He claimed something about the bible, then when someone engaged his point just stopped talking about it. The point was it was evil not whether or not it was true. You are not even trying to argue a point while claiming something about 2000-year-old theology. And the same time claiming you guys are men of reason and rationality. It is just hilarious.
@@chakvetadze9169 What's hilarious is debating over unverifiable nuances of meaning in some ancient fairy tale, making up strictly modern interpretations and then acting like that's what was meant from the beginning. As if people from those primitive ancient cultures would even understand these ideas, let alone invent them themselves. Now, Alex doesn't really do that last part, he just points at an idea some Christians substitute for these barbaric teachings. Which is nice, but it has nothing to do with the Bible. It's still evil.
2:01 1 John 1:10 "if we say we have not sinned we have made god out to be a liar." Roman 3:23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." Who is to save us from our righteous judgement for our immorality and hedenism? Isaiah 53:6 "We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all." Isaiah 53:10 "Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
"I'm sorry for you having to do a degree in this sort of thing." That kind of sums Dawkins up perfectly. His philosophical nature only goes so far. Basically, as far as his ego will permit.
Do you actually know what is involved in studying Theology? Its not just sitting reading the Bible. In fact Christian thought was a very small part of my degree. The rest included Philosophy, Feminist Theology, Feminist Philosophy. I specialised in Buddhism. All of it was absolutely fascinating. My degree is also in English Literature which fitted perfectly with Theology as it is important to know theological and philosophical ideas when studying texts. Does Dawkins think studying English Literature a waste of time too?
There still are experts in Norse Mythology, Greek and Roman Mythology as a way to understand these societies and our own past and evolution of ideas. I don’t recall hearing how one had to believe in these “Religions” to fully understand them.
We will hear your name for years to come. Alex, you are everything I want to become, and in the two years that I have seen your videos you have become the person I aspire to be. The way you put forwards your ideas so clearly, the way you articulate yourself so well in front of a personality such as Dawkins, and the way you play the devils advocate showcasing your intellectual honesty, is so remarkable. Alex, never change. You will go far.
I remember seeing a clip recently where an atheist (I think it was Dawkins) said he couldn't accept any evidence for the existence of "God". He basically said that he would consider himself insane or hallucinating if such evidence appeared. And while I agree with Kierkegaard's argument that living life as a human being requires some form of Faith, I find the rejection of any evidence for the existence of God or even a "spiritual realm" rather narcissistic. I understand it to mean that Dawkins and others like him are the final arbiters of moral and intellectual realities and any evidence to the contrary must be rejected by others. This may be true in their own mind but doesn't necessarily hold true for the rest of humanity. Also, Dawkin's form of argumentation just appears to be that anything that the Bible says that he doesn't understand or can't interpret must be "evil" and must be rejected out of hand and that seems the height of egotism.
One of the problems here is that two different understandings of "evidence" get conflated. One is that of scientific evidence and the other is more like the evidence presented in a courtroom. While they are related they aren't identical, and I think that guys like Dawkins, being a scientist, ignore the distinction. With metaphysics, no matter what form it takes, you're never going to have a slam dunk argument one way or the other, if you limit your evidence to the "scientific."
@@robgrano6814 The atheist in the video I referenced said the if he saw physical evidence written across the sky among the stars he would assume he was insane or hallucinating. He just rejected the idea that there is any evidence for the proof of God. His rationale seemed to be that since God doesn't exist then there can be no acceptable evidence that proves God does exist. He has drawn a conclusion without accepting even the possibility that there could be proof to the contrary. The inverse of most rational and scientific arguments as I understand them.
This illustrates the point that interviews don't have to be direct question and direct answer. At some points, it seemed they were veering off but it all actually made sense. Also a testament to Alex's interviewing skills.
What Alex conveys is a greater humanity and sensitivity than Dawkins does but let's face it, they both are critical of Christianity and religion. Alex is just a cool less emotional guy than Dawkins. Probably they both are most critical of religions that threaten hell to nonbelievers. I understand from going on religious sites that they give no respect and mock Agnostics. Part of this could be they feel they may find another step on the stairway to heaven by trying to convert as many nonbelievers as they can. Part could be that Jesus wants terrible things to happen to nonbelievers and he is the pathway for believers to adopt that sickening mindset. I have to fear the moderator or AI on here for just saying what I feel. You may not find it wrong. I wonder how anyone can not think it's wrong of Jesus. Good luck to you, and of course I have no idea how you feel about Agnostics or Atheists.
Do you really think Jesus wants terrible things for non-believers? You said so l must assume you mean it. But how can a loving God want that for his children. You wouldn't want it for your children so why do you think God would want non believers to go to hell. Not that it isn't true that non believers will go to hell but rather that God does not want that to be the case the choice is ours. So if anyone goes to hell it's not because God choose it for them. Isaiah 59:2 2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. It doesn't make sense to think God wants non believers to go to hell unless you think God isn't loving in that case that is your opinion. The bible says Good is love why does your statement contradict this fact. If you as a parent had a kid and you happened to be a good judge and your kid was charged for murder wouldn't you find every means by which you could acquit your child from the prosecution without circumventing the law itself. Isn't that why they call God a merciful God? The cross is God's way of saving his people from the condemnation of the law but sin is the transgression of the law and the soul that sins must die. To make this shorter not that it's short. If Jesus didn't die we would all be condemned by the law to hell. I want to speak more about hell but l leave it for another time because l can see you have some contentions with Christians who preach hell fire without love or at least you perceive they do it from an unloving place. Why would God want sinners to go to hell I know you and l are not Israelites but there's no difference between Jews and Gentiles. See the Verse below Why Will You Die, Israel? 10 “And you, son of man, say to the house of Israel, Thus have you said: ‘Surely our transgressions and our sins are upon us, and we rot away because of them. How then can we live?’ 11 Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
@@NgqabuthoLloydMafu When I read the bible it so full of contradictions when taken literally or figuratively. I see little evidence of a merciful god, just a lot of talk. Scripture’s teaching is that all who die in their sins will immediately go to hell/Hades, where they will remain, conscious of their misery and despair, until summoned before God at the Great White Throne Judgment. These, who rejected God’s mercy, must face His wrath, and they are eventually judged and cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15). "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him." "They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might,His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.”
@@NgqabuthoLloydMafu Calls a non Jewish woman a dog when she wants him to heal her sick daughter, says he's only been sent here to help the Jews, only when she begs and calls herself a dog does he help (does the miracle anyway but is still is a dick about it) Matthew 15:21-28 Calls people hypocrites and fools and then says not to call people fools or they'll go to hell. Matthew 5:22, Matthew 23:17 Gets anointed with expensive oil and fed by his disciples and people despite not working he's just walking around preaching. When someone suggests that they sell the oil to the poor he says the poor will be there forever you've only got me today!! Matthew 26:6-13, Mark 14:3-9, Luke 7:36-50, John 12:1-8 has this woman kissing his feet and crying on them to cleanse her sins, this is very reminiscent of egotistical cult leaders like Jim Jones and Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh who would have people pampering them Just a very small sampling.
@@NgqabuthoLloydMafu Yes because I read it in the bible. he preaches about hell and that people that don't believe in him are going to hell. John 3:36, Revelation 21:8 Scripture’s teaching is that all who die in their sins will immediately go to hell/Hades, where they will remain, conscious of their misery and despair. His wrath .. and they are eventually judged and cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15).
To make mistakes is a human thing , to learn from our mistakes and trying our best to become a better person is a high standard for all humans , striving to become a better person. Learning …. learning to forgive our shortcomings. learning to forgive ourselves and others. ❤❤❤
7:35 Spot on! Why prefer Christian theology when there are so many other options? Moreover, Thomism has roots in Aristotlean Pagan Philosophy rather than Biblical Christianity.
Yes, that's the issue today. IMO Dawkins I realizes more and more, unlike many of his fanboys, that he wasted time by weakening Christianity and it created more issues for the West than solved.
@@richardhedd3080 Bible has very poor morality. You will see that 42 laws of Egyptian Ma'at beat 10 commandments in morality anyday of the week. Infact Judeo Christian religion is less about morality more about social control of the benighted masses
When Dawkins is asked why he focuses on the Christian God, he says because that is the culture he grew up surrounded by, it's the one his audience is familiar with, so that's the one he primarily criticizes. When asked why he doesn't address the pinnacle of Christian religious philosophy with much detail, Dawkins says why privilege Christian theology when there are many other theologies. It seemed to me that this was the incongruence Alex was pressing on, but he didn't want to press Dawkins too hard on it.
Name me one non-Christian theology that is as philosophically and theologically rigorous, with as much depth and sophistication, and with as much scope and explanatory power as Christian theology? (Thomism is deeply Biblical. It just uses to the language and methods of Aristotle to expound Biblical truths. Just as Augustine was influenced by Platonism.)
I'm not a Christian, but I find the teachings in the New Testament interesting, especially when it comes to understanding freedom and liberation from the personal self. I sometimes wonder if Richard Dawkins might be interpreting the language of these scriptures too literally. Good interview appreciate Alex approach.
Well done alex, funny how richard has to change the subject to saying you took a horrible subject when you explain something to him that he clearly has not thought about enough You cant debate him seriously when he cant even understand why people might believe in something, Richard just needs to enjoy his retirement
To me the real question is "Why don't people who profess to be Christians exemplify the basic principles and commandments that Christ exemplified in the New Testament?" They are so enamored with shaming others and seeing themselves as righteous while their own behavior rarely reflects "Love thy neighbor as thyself" but the only neighbors they love are those who are just like themselves. Real Christians do not go about wagging their fingers at others, they EXEMPLIFY love, for "God is love".
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people. For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it. Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots! For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they can. They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism. Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth, stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him. No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't be in their shoes. No respect for them.... I told you this godless is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel. WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:... those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty, (they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them. (They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism, that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit. You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or later... Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest, empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and they will pay for it, and even badly........ They are so desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you. Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation, and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid, nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak)......... God will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it). NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person). It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!.
Completely agree. They should spend more time on that instead of trying to force their views onto others (which contains no reasoning that can withstand even the most basic probing or reasoning). As Gandhi said: "Ilike your Christ, but not your Christianity. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ".
@@russellmiles2861 I must google "Quisling" before answering. It is an interesting word I have never heard (and I am a writer). Thank you for expanding my vocabulary.
@@saschamilenkovic4320 I re-read the New Testament during the pandemic lockdown. I was struck by the nature of Christ's primary activities. He mostly healed people and He fed people. He did not seem to communicate with a bullhorn and with a tone of shaming and guilt-tripping people into accepting salvation like most evangelicals Christians do. Shame has destroyed more lives than it has helped.; a young person can be destroyed by shame as such unhealthy feelings often lead to drink and drugs. He also did not judge them in the way that Christians do, despite the Bible's injunction to "Judge not, that ye be not judged." This is my issue with Christians and how they attempt to shame people into their own belief system and faith. Nevertheless I am a believer and have had remarkable (miraculous, in one case) answers to prayer within my life as well.
The concept that no one is perfect and infalliable is a decent one The concept that you are a worthless pos who needs to beg the abuser to help you or you will suffer the consequences, is abusive they are two completely different concepts and I lost a lot of respect for Alex when he conflated the two
That is on the assumption that "sin" is a thing, rather than partially outdated moral standards. Some may be good but a lot aren't. Don't let the dead peer pressure you into thinking that they had mystical wisdom, just because it happened in the past.
THIS! I have always hated this idea of humanity being born in sin. It allows for so much hate, bigotry, sexism, persecution, and malice towards others who believe and think differently. It's a disgusting and quite frankly misanthropic way of thinking. That humans are inherently sinful and bad and that we need to be cleansed.
These things happen anyway, whether people think they're born in sin or not. I find Rousseau's insistence on the basic goodness of mankind vastly more repugnant, not to say ludicrous. The point is not that the idea encourages people to indulge in hate, bigotry, sexism, persecution, and malice towards others who believe and think differently. The point is that we see these things happen independently of whether people believe these things or not. The question after that is what we're supposed to do about it.
You've got the cart before the horse here. All those things you list existed before the idea of original sin was ever promulgated. It's a theory of what causes them, not the cause itself!
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people. For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it. Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots! For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they can. They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism. Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth, stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him. No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't be in their shoes. No respect for them.... I told you this godless is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel. WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:... those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty, (they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them. (They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism, that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit. You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or later... Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest, empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and they will pay for it, and even badly........ They are so desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you. Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation, and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid, nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak)......... God will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it). NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person). It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!..
Falling short of moral standards is not the same as all humans being inherently evil unless we surrender our freedom to a magical leader. It just sounds like the perfect manipulation tool.
"You were sick when you were born, and only I have the medicine. But if you don't love me, you not only can't have it, you will be tossed into the pit forever. But I love you. Textbook sociopathy
The whole idea of a god is so insane that I can't comprehend how anyone with a good education and a functioning brain could possibly belive there is. There is zero evidence, other than heresay or lunatics saying they communicate with god. There is no such thing as sin. There are laws, but no sins.
If you are sincerely interested in why so many of us with multiple grad degrees who have examined the evidence critically for decades believe you might consider Stephen Meyer's book The Return of the God Hypothesis.
Than why do you even mention it? Why does it bother you that other people believe something you dont? If YOU are really truly convinced that there is no God, it makes no difference whatever what other people believe, therefore you neednt badger other people into your same persuasion, aka disbelief
Loved Richard's pushback on you here so much and I think the concept of original sin and even sin itself is worthy of a lot more curiosity and interrogation. An interrogation which could be the jumping off point of some truly fascinating and beautiful conversations. Looking forward to listening to the full conversation.
Dawkins acts a little dense here. Does he not see the relationship between sin and a baby who has no morals yet, who only thinks of its own needs, who would take things that belong to others, because it does not know any better, etc.?
I don't think it ever says we're born in sin. Paul vaguely makes a link between sin and the creation story but "original sin" is a doctrine invented by the Catholic Church.
i dont think relating being born in sin and the inability to reach our own moral standards are the same at all. one implies that you are doomed already, the other leaves you room to grow and do good even if it isnt the absolute best
Btw if you read the Bible it doesn't state that you are inherently evil but that you are God’s creation that is good, meant for good(union with God). Being born in a sin only comes up in context of (and after)Adam and Eve’s sin beacuse they ate from the ,,tree of good and evil” wanting to know good from evil and be Gods like the snake told them(which is a bit egoistical don’t you think). Even though they were united with God(that is the good itself)
@@lukaerceg553 oh no, i dont think wanting to know good from evil is egoistic at all. if wanting to know good from evil makes you a god, youre a pretty powerless one if you ask me. if my dear child wanted to know good and bad, id let them know how to distinguish by themselves instead of having to rely on me to make decisions for them. also, if god created everything, why was there a snake in the garden? why was there a tree? what were the purpose of those if not to test them in order to condemn them later?
@@lilik6945 also, if god created everything, why was there a snake in the garden? *This is all revealed later in the book, the snake is the fallen angel Satan who was created good and chose to disobey God. Can you know if someone loves you solely from their words or would you rather have them show that supposed love through actions?* why was there a tree? what were the purpose of those if not to test them in order to condemn them later? *You seem to have a very Calvinistic/deterministic view of the fall of Adam/Eve. Adam had many good choices but he chose to do the one thing HE was explicitly instructed not to do (Eve was never told by God himself not to eat, the responsibility for communicating that to Eve sat with Adam - so Eve wasn't judged first). Here's some of the things Adam could have a) call out to God for help b) told the snake to sod off, c) told the snake he wanted to think about it d) just said no e) discussed with Eve (she had her sense woken since she ate first). Adam was not pre-destined to disobey God*
@@alisterrebelo9013 well, i am aware that the snake is satan of course. but i wonder why god wouldnt simply banish him from the garden, supposed to be a safe place for adam and eve, since he would know hes there and have the power to do so. "would you rather have them show that supposed love through actions" - testing love is never a good thing, nor would i think god would have the need for such things as he is all knowing, so there has to be no proof of love. you didnt quite go into why there was a tree of good and evil in the garden though, which i find a very interesting thing to think about. i understand it might seem deterministic to say that it was predestined, but if you are given a choice, you will act on your knowledge and experience (all of which were given by god in this scenario) this is also the question of whether one truly has free will, so if there is an option, you are predestined to do "either or". what do you think was wrong about adams will to want to know good and evil? would that not simply be seeking out to know how to be good?
@@alisterrebelo9013 the referrence of god being our shepherds is quite common, so thats a big breaking point for me. as a shepherd, it is my responsibility to keep danger away from my dear sheep and to not let them graze where they could eat something bad. this very much applies to this situation in my opinion
"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods and they are unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones." -- Marcus Aurelius
I believe he was an early Stoic. He is right about memories being the source of life after death, because the whole concept of a spirit or soul is in your head.All the folks that have now passed, if they meant something to me, live on in my head with fond memories. The soulless live on, too, as those who cause you harm have effectively taken a dump in your brain.
@@dthomas9230 watch{John Safran vs God} us Aussies already proved Holy God to be real,Demons shit scared of Lord Jesus Christ and his Holy Father,your bit of Evil you are born with does not want you to pickup the Holy Bible,see if you can and read it.Dawkins christian illiterate easy to take down if subject was open,communist-evolutionist he is the most danger as he can't count.Death awaits the fool that does not repent.
@@BrianSwincer Yeah. Live a good life means go all out and milk it for what it is worth. You must be English teacher of sorts. 😀😀😀😀
@@BrianSwincer Copeland Ministeries did that and have their own airport, hangars, and private fleet of jets.
@@BrianSwincer Wow! How to misread. He's actually telling us the exact opposite.
The respect that you and Richard show for each other is wonderful to behold. Neither of you is insulted to be challenged, and you patiently allow each other to fully explain your positions without excessive interruption. Well done, as usual, Alex. Thank you for this series of videos.
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people.
For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it.
Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots!
For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people
constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to
help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty
stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity
and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they
can.
They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in
the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you
run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS
cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see
how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are
here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism.
Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God
when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth,
stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created
them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is
what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone
trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as
anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those
godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and
worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who
thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him.
No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are
also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone
person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you
lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh
anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you
are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What
trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be
judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless
empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if
they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't
be in their shoes. No respect for them....
I told you this godless
is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as
the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid
empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer
or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very
weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless
trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their
worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel.
WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt
CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:...
those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with
less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak
people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an
obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No
Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty,
(they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit
they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them.
(They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will
accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is
no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone
trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism,
that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their
miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty
as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and
all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous
miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and
godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit.
You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash
is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for
you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this
godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time
for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you
come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or
later...
Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it
and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as
your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest,
empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult
called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone
trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and
they will pay for it, and even badly........
They are so
desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you.
Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation,
and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid,
nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for
you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND
YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN
THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be
and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak).........
God
will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more
miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it).
NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are
just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does
deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any
Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT
ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person).
It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!..
I agree, Flanagan. Thank you writing such a fine comment ❤️
Both are atheists as I understand this, so bound to agree on principle
03:15 "im sorry for you having to do a degree in this kind of thing... its not a real subject isnt?" getting this instead of a straight answer seems disrespectful to me, but i guess thats my opinion.
@@melkicastillo3399I fully agree
As a kid who grew up in a rural Christian area but thought very logically, I questioned everything I was told. I was quickly taught to "fear God" so much that I became deathly afraid to keep questioning it. As a very young child, when the people you trust most tell you that you'll burn for eternity (after explaining what eternity means) if you keep asking questions, you stop asking questions and you fear everything those people tell you to fear.
I moved out of that town at 18 to go to college. By 20, without the influence of small town Southern baptism, I had met enough atheists that I felt safe questioning things and realized quickly that I never once believed a word of it. Turns out, I was just terrified to even think about it. The Christian indoctrination is basically "instill fear at the core of this person's identity when they're developing children" whether they know it or not.
It's the ultimate blasphemy to teach people such fear and convince them that it's love; then they grow up thinking that by using anger to instill that same fear in their own children, they will legitimately believe that they love their child by making that child terribly afraid of some vague nonsense concept completely detached from the world they live in. It keeps people afraid, it skews the perception of love, it prevents people from caring about the world around them, it gives you the most screwed up idea of what it means to be a good or bad person, it completely destroys your ability to think critically or question things...it's just absolutely despicable. It's vile and I hate it so very much. Christians want to be good people, but their instructions may as well have been given to them by their devil copying God's handwriting.
Let me guess, you're gay too?
@@alexrogers2660 what the hell does that have to do with it
@@lizichell2 I've just never met a straight atheist before. Every atheist I've ever met was gay.
@@alexrogers2660 probably because they have been bullied into realising religion is just a load of homophobic horse shit
And getting told by your nearest and dearest throughout your childhood that you will be thrown into a lake of fire for something you cannot help may have something to do with it
Alex, I admire the way you interview people. You're critical and you aim to be objective and fair to both sides, and you respect the people you interview. Even though I don't share your worldview (I am a Christian), I think everyone can learn a lot from how you conduct these interviews. Keep up the excellent work!
As-Salamu Alaikum. Peace and blessings of God to all mankind, the children of our father Adam (as) and our mother Eve (as).
Dear brothers and sisters, I have a message for you. I would appreciate it if you read it.
If you are 20 people, and only 1 of them is on the right path while the other 19 are misguided, and they do not listen to that 1 person but rather get angry at him, that 1 person stays quiet. This will not make those 19 people right; they will still remain wrong.
Therefore, the truth is known to the one who listens and accepts the best of what they say, who protects himself from the evil in his heart, and who welcomes good things.
The majority of people in this world are misguided, chasing their desires and negligent of God. If you follow these misguided people, you will not harm God in any way; rather, you will end up hurting yourself.
The life of this world is just a blink of an eye, and the true home is the hereafter, where we have to live forever. Therefore, those who consider this world to be everything will make you heedless of the hereafter, and you will suffer a great loss. So, brothers, do not follow those who are heedless of their hereafter and are chasing their desires. These people will be ruined on the Day of Judgment, and they will also ruin your hereafter.
Brothers, save yourselves from the regret of that Day when a person will wish to return to the world just once more, to believe in God and perform good deeds.
But what can be done now when the bird has already eaten the crop?
One of the most profound Catholic theologians of the 20th century, Henri de Lubac, wrote a book called "The Drama of Atheist Humanism". In the book, he did a very Thomist thing: in order to truly respond to the proponents of atheist materialism, he started by examining their thought in great depth. Otherwise he would only have been responding to his own preconceptions about atheistic materialists, and he knew this. Alex O'Connor seems to me a person professing atheism who extends that same courtesy to Christianity. He tries to understand it before responding to it.
Bear in mind that Christianity is one religion among many, and it would be impossible for any atheist to examine every religion's truth claims in detail. Simply knowing that science has refuted the existence of a historical Adam and Eve is enough to seriously undermine Christianity. No original sin, no need for vicarious atonement.
@@k-3402 Adam and Eve is a oral creation myth, like all ancient cultures had. Fundamentalist Christians would like it to be historical fact, but many many Christians couldn't care less. Its truth is much deeper than mere historicity.
Do you offer the same courtesy to other religions? I doubt it. You think they are wrong despite not know what they believe.
@@k-3402why do you care?
@@k-3402 - How has "Science" refuted the existence of a historical Adam and Eve? Researchers can go back 100,000 - 200,000 years to the original human being(s), how exactly? This sounds like a claim based in Faith. Not proof. What about if there was an "Adam", then an "Eve", especially since Adam in the Hebrew moreso stands for "hu/mankind"?
“You are born in sin. We can’t be good without him” is a very effective recruitment strategy.
What's better is that if you believe the whole thing, you'll live forever in a paradise.
Im taking notes for when I start my cult.
Sounds like wokery without the love for something other than yourself.
We aren't born sinners.God says babies and small children are innocent.
It's only effective because the average human being is a complete fucking moron.
"Parents don't own their children. You are the caretakers of those children. You are instilled with a responsibility to raise responsible members of society and to teach them the minimal things that they will need to carry on a productive life when you're not around." -- Matt Dillahunty
Leftist nonsense from a bald ball of goo.
Nonsense. Children do owe respect and allegiance to their bloodline, ancestors. Destroying the family first goal Illuminati. Collapses Cohesion.and now Parental rights of minors being collapsed.
I disagree. Parents DO own their children (after all they are their products), and the classics which you cite so eloquently would say the very same thing.
@@petervan333 But you don't own a child like you own a table. People should not, for instance, be allowed to use their children for free forced labor the way most people do.
@@saphireblue3563The way most people do? Most people use their children for slave labor? Really? If this is the case, the world is more fucked-up than I thought.
The reason why the church needed people to believe that were are all born in sin was so that they would become dependent on the church.
Indeed
When this concept was created it was to get people to follow the priestly caste as they were trying to create a nation and a national identity for a group of middle eastern people who were conquered over and over again. Church is apt for modern day religion. But not accurate for when this was made up.
@@DinoDiniProductions I don't go to "church", I know I was born in sin, because inside me is a man who wants to be all about myself, and a man who wants the good and right which is self sacrificing and compassionate. If I were born good, no struggle would have existed.
@@Godspeed253actually without the struggle there would be neither good nor evil
@@DinoDiniProductions atheism has no good or bad. It's void of meaning and destination. It actually undermines rationality, no hope. And hope is powerful in the human experience
I'll say again: I'm a Christian and I appreciate the way in which you challenge things. Not as colorful as Hitchens and not as vitriolic as Dawkins. Straightforward, good-faith arguments. Thank you.
Seriously, Dawkins clearly has a lot of deep-seated malice towards Christianity, it makes me think he its more of a personal grudge than a philosophical disagreement
@@bencarlson4300 we just prefer truth and not some made up fairy tales. And do you even know how much misery Christianity brought to the world ?
Is your new born child born in sin ?
@@diaryofnricom163 Yawn, please if you want to debate which ideology brought more harm or benefit, especially to the West sure we can do that but if you think that's Christianity especially compared to anti-theist ideologies of today's wokes/progressives or 20th century commies sure, but it won't be Christianity. And he is right, usually people like Dawkings have some personal issues with Christianity and it's rarely based on something rational. At least Hitchens was honest about that.
@@bencarlson4300 any rational, reasonable, and moral person, would have a lot of deep-seated malice towards Christianity. It is, and always has been, a detrimental delusion that holds us back as a species. It has value as a personal grudge, it has none in philosophy.
Think of the idea. You have roughly 80 years on earth. If you don’t get it right during that 80 years, having not a shred of evidence outside a book that reads horribly and brutally, the father that loves you will either burn you for all eternity or allow you to kiss his feet for all eternity. Who on earth would ever do that to one of their own children who they truly love? Nobody! It’s absurd on its face.
For the greatest part of human history we didn't even have 80 years but more like only 30-40 years. A 50 year old person in ancient Egypt, the Roman Empire, the Middle Ages, and well into the 19th century was a venerable senior citizen. Even today there are still parts of the world where average life expectancy is 60 at best. Which makes your argument all the more grave.
But that is actually the point. When you lived such a short and at times brutal life , no wonder eternal life seemed so enticing. With us living till we are 80 or 90, we've usually done it all and have no real desire to live forever. It's not a carrot religion can dangle in front of us anymore.
An equally absurd statement. I can assure that at age 80 or 90 and offered to die today or live on, you will choose the latter, and not say "I've had enough." (This presumes good health of course, which is a standard for any age.)@@simonreich5028
TOBEBOOM you never read the full OT
why do you assume that it's 'you' that is the child of God? nothing is further from the truth. You are not the apple of God's eye. Quite the opposite.
"...the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many." Matthew 20:28
"This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins." Matthew 26:28
"I lay down my life for the sheep." John 10:15
C'mon, guys.
"Many passages attributed to Jesus have him predicting the end *within his generation* (“the time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Repent and believe the good news” (Mark 1:15); *“this generation will not pass away* until all these things take place” (Mark 13:30); *“truly I say to you, you will not finish going through the cities of Israel until the Son of Man comes”* (Matthew 10:23); “Truly I say to you, *there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death* until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power.” (Mark 9:1); "From now on, you shall see the *Son of Man* coming in the clouds..." (Matthew 26:64))."
Jesus as a failed apocalyptic prophet is the general consensus of critical scholarship, *even critical Christian scholars* like Dale Allison. The Son of Man (Jesus himself?) was supposed to be an end of the world arbiter, as Bart Ehrman points out in his lecture referenced below, and as the Bible states he was supposed to come *within the lifetime* of Jesus’s followers. *It didn't happen.*
Read the article from the former Christian apologist and Tim O'Neill (former Christian), who has been studying the scholarship and history for decades, referenced below as well.
*Jesus falsely prophesied his return in the 1st century*
“Truly I say to you, ***you will not finish going through the cities of Israel until the Son of Man comes”*** (Matthew 10:23);
For the *Son of man* shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; ***and then he shall reward every man according to his works.***
Truly I tell you, ***some who are standing here will not taste death*** before they see the *Son of Man* coming in his kingdom Matthew 16:27-28
Truly I tell you, ***some who are standing here*** will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God Luke 9:27
Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Mark 13:30
The sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.
Then will appear the sign of the *Son of Man* in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the *Son of Man* coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Matthew 24:29-34
There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time they will see the *Son of Man* coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near. When you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near.
Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Luke 21:25-32
*Jesus promised to return over 2, 000 years ago and he still hasn’t.*
Jesus and the angels never appeared from Heaven, the stars never fell from the sky, none of these things happened. Nothing he prophesied happened.
***Apologists can try to spin this, but the simple fact is that Jesus was either wrong or misquoted.***
According to the Bible that makes Jesus a false prophet or misquoted (and if Jesus is misquoted than the Bible is not inerrant or the word of God)
How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord? If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken Deuteronomy 18:21-22
*Jesus falsely prophesied to the high priest and the Sanhedrin*
Jesus also falsely prophesied to the high priest and the Sanhedrin (assemblies of either twenty-three or seventy-one rabbis appointed to sit as a tribunal)
You will see the *Son of Man* sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and ***coming on the clouds of heaven*** Matthew 26:64 Mark 14:62
Except the high priest and the Sanhedrin never saw Jesus sitting at the right hand side of God, or coming on the clouds of heaven, or any such thing.
*Jesus falsely prophesied to Nathaniel*
Jesus also falsely prophesied to Nathanael when he declared, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel.”
Jesus said, You believe because I told you I saw you under the fig tree. You will see greater things than that. He then added, ***“Very truly I tell you, you will see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man*** John 1:50-51
*Nathanael never saw any such thing. Neither did anyone else.*
*"13x Jesus was wrong in the Bible - Life Lessons"*
The following quote from Stephen L. Harris, Professor Emeritus of Humanities and Religious Studies at California State University- Sacramento, completes this point with a devastating argument.
*Jesus did not accomplish what Israel’s prophets said the Messiah was commissioned to do:* He did not deliver the covenant people from their Gentile enemies, reassemble those scattered in the Diaspora, restore the Davidic kingdom, or establish universal peace (cf.Isa. 9:6-7; 11:7-12:16, etc.). Instead of freeing Jews from oppressors and thereby fulfilling God’s ancient promises-for land, nationhood, kingship, and blessing- *Jesus died a “shameful” death, defeated by the very political powers the Messiah was prophesied to overcome.* Indeed, the Hebrew prophets did not foresee that Israel’s savior would be executed as a common criminal by Gentiles, *making Jesus’ crucifixion a “stumbling block” to scripturally literate Jews.* (1 Cor.1:23)
Watch *Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet, Historical Lecture - Bart D. Ehrman*
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Also, look up the following.
*"End Times - Evil Bible .com"*
*"The End of All Things is At Hand - The Church Of Truth"*
*"ex-apologist: On One of the Main Reasons Why I Think Christianity is False (Reposted)"*
*"Jesus the Apocalyptic Prophet - History for Atheists"*
(Tim O'Neill is a former Christian and is familiar with most of the Biblical scholarship. He's been studying the scholarship and history for decades)
*"Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return - Black Nonbelievers, Inc."*
Also, how cognitive dissonance possibly explains early Christianity.
*“The Rationalization Hypothesis: Is a Vision of Jesus Necessary for the Rise of the Resurrection Belief?”* - by Kris Komarnitsky | Κέλσος - Wordpress
*"February 2015 - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"* - Isaiah 53
*"Jesus and the Messianic Prophecies - Did the Old Testament Point to Jesus? - The Bart Ehrman Blog"*
*"Did Jesus Fulfill Prophecy? | Westar Institute"*
*"Jesus Was Not the Only “Prophet” to Predict the Destruction of the Temple - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"*
*"What Do the Apostles’ Deaths Prove? Guest Post by Kyle Smith. - The Bart Ehrman Blog"*
@@epicofatrahasis3775 You and I have a very different interpretation of what Jesus did and didn't do. That's OK but. You sound like I did when I was a teenager.
Gandhi could have easily said the same thing if he lived back then having any inclination they were gonna kill him. “My death will inspire many to become more loving” that’s all those passages mean. It’s written in first century poetry. “Forgiveness of sins”. Yeah I mean they even write Jesus forgiving his enemies while being crucified in Luke. It’s quite clear that his martyrdom will be an example of unconditional love which is forgiving even the worst people. But the way it’s written in the gospel sounds more profound and deep than what I just wrote.
Who cares?
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@3:14 Its appalling that Dawkins would revert to criticizing your studies when he has no response.
Agreed. Dawkins is brilliant in some areas. But he really seems out of his element here, and comes off as out-of-touch and dim. There is no curiosity, no willingness to learn. Simply stamping his foot in the ground and demanding that you remove yourself from his lawn.
@@wannahockachewie897 - Yes, you precisely summed it up in one sentence.
"There is no curiosity, no willingness to learn." 👍
@@wannahockachewie897 Are you really suggesting he should have learnt the imagined, made up stuff that sherperds believed in 2000 years ago when there is a universe of truth to be discovered in and with science???
1:38 - "Surely he never said 'my death is necessary for you to be saved from sin'"
*Matthew 26:28*
"For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins." This is interpreted by many Christians as an indication that Jesus saw his death as a necessary sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins.
I think its the only gospel text whereby Jesus Himself mentions the purpose for His crucifixion. 🤔
Also - his name literally means “God saves”
He also supposedly said, "My lord why have you forsaken me", and, "take this cup away from me, not I as will but as you will".
For him to be so close and yet so far away
surely he will be without excuse.
Your Jesus Christ person, was murdered because he was making outrageous claims and positioned himself as a King and the son of a King. He was murdered because he wouldn't shut up and stop teaching people that he is the "ONLY WAY." It doesn't matter what reason he said he was being put to death! He was put to death for being a raving lunatic. If he died for the reason he says, then people would never be considered to be sinners ever! That bill having been paid with his life!
I definitely agree with him on this. Sure you could say original sin is a metaphor for how no human is perfect and that we all fall short of our moral judgements, but what it's actually saying is humans are inherently evil and we are obligated to surrender our freedom to this supposed god. It just sounds like the perfect manipulative technique, selling someone the cure for an illness they don't have.
Yup. Snake oil for the masses.
Blame the victims for not doing as God instructed them to do in order to bring the kingdom and peace to earth.
Classic victim perp roll shifting.
I don't understand. What is the difference between humans being "imperfect" and "falling short" and humans being in some way "evil", other than emotive language?
That's all it says. None of us is perfect and atonement of some kind is needed in order to be better. If you take out the religious language of "sin" and "redemption" it suddenly becomes a lot less controversial
@@mxzyzptlk We know. They don't. They place religious connotations to these concepts.
Personally, i do not accept the word evil. It is a subjective concept. Good and bad. Right and wrong. We do not need definitions for trafic lights to understand what they are and mean. It does not matter why they use red, yellow and green. What matters is that we all understand what they are and mean. Now, apply this rational to other concepts.
Easy, right?
No. Some want to argue about the words used to identify a concept rather than debate the concept itself.
I am so sick of this subjective crap. It's monotonous 😒
@@mxzyzptlk Humans being imperfect is normal, it is part of our nature. Christianity says that there is something wrong with us and we need to need to surrender to god to get rid of our evil. At least that's the impression I am getting.
"inherently evil"? That's not original sin. And its antithetical to the first chapter of the bible outright.
Dawkins says to Alex ``I`m sorry for you having to do a degree in this kind of thing!`` but you see this is what makes Alex unique, how he is willing to learn and intellectually entertain ideas that he doesn't belief. And that makes him one of the best!
He chose to it ….. what is there to be sorry of?
@@DA-yd2ny "Sorry" as in "it's a shame". Just like I would be sorry if Einstein, instead of physics, had studied old icelandic folktales.
Dawkins is saying that, “He’s sorry” only because he wants to dismiss it as nonsense and move on. He’s sorry that he is having to address this because in his mind it’s all complete foolishness.
@@dward8738 It really confirms that he doesn't know what he is talking about in this subject, that he doesn't care to know, and that any person with a functioning brain should not take his ideas in this subject seriously. The fact that people STILL continue to take Dawkins seriously on this is just depressing. He's a great biologist. He is not a great writer or thinker on religion. His opinion is no more valuable than your friend's in the pub. And yet he's still droning on and on to people who keep lapping it up.
It actually makes him a prize fool !
The problem with Richard Dawkins is that he just doesn't get it. "How could you stand it?" "Why would I study theology?" - to him, the religious mode of thinking seems to be not accessible at all. Which is fine on a personal level - but he shouldn't be going around making definite pronouncements on the nature of religion and religiosity when he cannot fundamentally understand it. Alex, on the other hand, can fully access the "machinery" of religious thought, get into that mode, and understand it - which shows that you don't have to be a believer or religious to do so. That is why anything that Alex as an atheist says about religion and faith is infinitely more insightful than anything Dawkins says on the subject.
Ive watched a handful of debates from dawkins and hitchens (mostly hitchens admittedly) over the years. But their distaste for religion seems to lead to a lack of understanding of it. There have been countless times when Hitchens has related a passage from the bible or simply stated a belief that X religion holds to make a point, only to have gotten it wrong. If he feel he needs to educate himself on a topic hes attempting to dismantle i have no interest in listening to him speak about it.
Very well put. I don't mind when people disagree or make arguments against Christianity. But it bothers me when they're lazily inaccurate or intentionally frame things to sound ridiculous. The truth is these guys find the very concept of God stupid and only pursue reasons that support that opinion. And to me that's just as bad as a Christian who believes but only because the idea is comforting. If I wanted a religion to comfort me and entertain all my vices, Christianity would be the last thing I'd pick. I'd just like both parties to at least try and represent the other as accurately as they can and in good faith. Unfortunately, many times you get oversimplification, false truth and sarcasm on both sides.
Theists always say "they just don't understand" without putting any real content forward.
Both Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens have both read the bible and have a good enough understanding to debated religious scholars. Where are yall getting they dont know what they are talking about? Can you please give an example where something they said is objectively wrong?
"The problem with Richard Dawkins is that he just doesn't get it." Yes, Dawkins, like all atheists, just doesn't get it. What would you think if somebody told you that they believe in unicorns and have spent 3 years studying them? You would probably be as flummoxed as Dawkins is about people who study religion.
Of course he doesn't get it. Why would he? He thinks it's a load of rubbish (and I agree). Naturally, if somebody spends three years studying a load of rubbish, people are not going to understand why someone would want to waste three years of their life doing that. As Dawkins says in the video "It's not a real subject is it?"
“That we are born in sin is a hideous idea”.
Human history: hold my beer.
It's funny to me because his philosophy on this can kinda mean that Christians are pessimists and atheists are optimists about human morality.
And now explain why in the face of this human history, not believing in this specific god is the only sin, that cannot be forgiven, while all the other cruelties humans commit can be.
Exactly, but never mind history. Check out the now. If human beings weren't essentially fallen and corrupt (whether you take that theologically or metaphorically), you would expect the world to look quite different. But in fact, it's a seething den of iniquity, saturated with gross injustices that stem from our avarice, power-lust, and violence. Assuming that human nature is good goes against ALL the evidence.
@@TgfkaTrichter if you think you are allowed to do such things while believing in the specific God ,you can be certain your specific God is the wrong God.
@@jensbekaert166 we only know of this specific god, cause his followers have done those things in his name. Without those deed, Christianity would have never become a big thing.
Also if you believe you are doing gods will, then everything is allowed, this is also clearly shown in human history and can still be witnessed today.
It's so obnoxious to see Alex make thoughtful philosophical points just to have them dismissed by Dawkins with comments like "I'm sorry you had to do a degree on this" and "it isn't a real subject".
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people.
For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it.
Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots!
For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people
constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to
help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty
stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity
and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they
can.
They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in
the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you
run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS
cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see
how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are
here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism.
Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God
when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth,
stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created
them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is
what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone
trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as
anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those
godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and
worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who
thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him.
No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are
also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone
person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you
lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh
anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you
are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What
trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be
judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless
empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if
they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't
be in their shoes. No respect for them....
I told you this godless
is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as
the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid
empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer
or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very
weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless
trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their
worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel.
WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt
CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:...
those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with
less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak
people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an
obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No
Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty,
(they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit
they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them.
(They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will
accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is
no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone
trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism,
that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their
miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty
as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and
all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous
miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and
godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit.
You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash
is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for
you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this
godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time
for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you
come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or
later...
Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it
and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as
your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest,
empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult
called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone
trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and
they will pay for it, and even badly........
They are so
desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you.
Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation,
and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid,
nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for
you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND
YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN
THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be
and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak).........
God
will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more
miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it).
NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are
just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does
deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any
Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT
ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person).
It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!...
Totally! Dawkins is a snobby prick
It is a real as a subject on Dungeons and Dragons.
@@cmp6 except western civilisation wasn’t built on dungeons and dragons. We’ve got so complacent and comfortable we’ve forgotten where the western world came from. We’re willing to ridicule and mock it. Meanwhile the rest of the world still has tradition and culture, that they are extremely proud of. And they’re laughing as we commit suicide. So ye, keep thinking it’s as important as Dungeons and Dragons 🤦♂️
@@H.L.S.98 You could definitely study the effects of religion on society but seriously studying religion as if it were real is like studying dungeons and dragons.
Are you upset we no longer follow the Aesir? What paganism? That tradition was lost. You all are always focusing on the past and becoming too complacent to worry about the future. I hear too many people saying they do not care about GW because God will fix it. History is full of traditions that we no longer follow because we deem them arcane for good reasons. Just because something is a tradition doesn't mean it is good. Should we sacrifice things again?
There is something very genuine about Alex’s quest for Truth that is most admirable, no matter what your religious worldview happens to be. Dawkins does make the occasional concession, but he still seems more pessimistic and reluctant to truly understand the other person’s perspective
When Dawkins said the Old Testament is appalling, Alex quickly shut him down.
@@DozychimpIt is appalling.
Dawkins is a good scientist, but he really overestimates his philosophical train of thought.
Religious people have been misrepresenting and deliberately misunderstanding Dawkins’s discoveries and thoughts for decades. HINT: a selfish gene is not a gene making people selfish.
I agree, we see it clearly when he brings up that he doesnt think that Jesus ever said himself that he's salvation for humans. Dawkins just says "surely he never said that", but Alex actually tries to see it from every perspective to find truht as you say
They act like the doctor is a bad guy for telling you about your cancer
Exactly.
More like the doctor who tells you you have cancer when there is no reason at all for thinking you have cancer.
@@bradkelley8732 Go learn what this means:
And Jesus answered them saying, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
@@grantguidroz7640 there actually is proof that cancer exists.
🤘🏻😈🤘🏻
Sin originally meant to be off the mark, or not true to your character. The idea is that you can fail to recognize your unique, distinctive role in society, in another words to remain unconscious of your self.
I like that, it makes a lot of sense.
Nice comment!
@@knffL-l4vEverybody is part of another set within society, separate from your own set that you are a member of. Russel's Paradox addresses mathematical sets, but societal sets are family, unions, fellow class members at school, even passengers on a plane are part of a set of travelers @ 36,000 ft above ground. If you're part of a set of folks riding an elevator behind closed doors, it would be a sin to fart.
Do you have any references to share about this? I'd be interested in studying this further.
Hi. The path to this is not direct. I would perhaps start with the myths of creation. Books of Marie Louis von Franz would be, but not exclusively of some help. This subject trully is full of riches and goes beyond, destroying prejudices.@@mary-gael7633
“How do you stand it?” Literally lol’d
It’s not a real subject? What a way to insult someone…
That's what I thought too. And yet he took it like a professional and didn't even consider it to be an insult.
@@alanpearly its a real subject in the same way that studying what Scientologists believe or studying Tolkien is a real subject
@@S.D.323yeah because scientology came about at the turn of recorded history. Totally not to be compared to the Christian faith.
The faith that says we all are equal before a Holy God who has died for us that we may know his salvation. A humble God whaaat?
That the proper world view is that this world is broken and we even with all our science can't come to an agreement on morality?
It's almost like life should be measured based off of something infinitely transcendent and all our morality should come from there... That all men are created in the image of God. To love our enemies unto death as our leader has. God.
@@BetterDaysIndustries If I had the same attitude as the God of the Bible nobody would call me humble
Alex is as sharp as a Samurai's sword. I'm not religious nor am I am atheist but I can definitely appreciate Alex's objectivity, honesty, and assertiveness.
May I ask how come you're not either?
@@driftlock98 I'm not religious because I find a lot of doctrines and dogmas problematic. I'm not an atheist because I see what appears to be intelligent design everywhere, and not necessarily perfect design or a perfect designer. I'm not sure about anything.
You're a deist@@thekendredspirit5771
Over thinkers
It’s shocking to consider how dangerous and destructive the Abrahamic religions are
Very interesting to hear Mr Dawkins say the idea of sin and sacrifice is horrible. I would like to hear him on justice.
Dawkins’ reaction at 3:13 to a perfectly decent (and in my opinion correct) point is very telling. Completely dodged the question, lashed out.
What does it tell
"Human nature is inherently sinful and the only way to redeem yourself is to believe in a specific doctrine" was the dogma Dawkins was discussing. Alex's response of "well maybe sin just refers to human nature" is a frustratingly dumb response. It doesn't address the second part of the dogma and it frames basic human behaviour as problematic. He is a grumpy old man but I don't blame him for insulting theology.
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people.
For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it.
Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots!
For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people
constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to
help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty
stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity
and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they
can.
They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in
the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you
run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS
cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see
how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are
here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism.
Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God
when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth,
stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created
them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is
what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone
trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as
anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those
godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and
worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who
thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him.
No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are
also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone
person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you
lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh
anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you
are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What
trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be
judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless
empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if
they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't
be in their shoes. No respect for them....
I told you this godless
is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as
the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid
empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer
or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very
weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless
trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their
worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel.
WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt
CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:...
those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with
less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak
people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an
obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No
Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty,
(they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit
they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them.
(They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will
accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is
no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone
trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism,
that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their
miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty
as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and
all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous
miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and
godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit.
You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash
is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for
you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this
godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time
for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you
come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or
later...
Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it
and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as
your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest,
empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult
called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone
trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and
they will pay for it, and even badly........
They are so
desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you.
Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation,
and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid,
nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for
you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND
YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN
THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be
and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak).........
God
will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more
miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it).
NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are
just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does
deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any
Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT
ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person).
It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever! .
@@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people.
For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it.
Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots!
For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people
constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to
help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty
stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity
and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they
can.
They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in
the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you
run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS
cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see
how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are
here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism.
Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God
when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth,
stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created
them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is
what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone
trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as
anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those
godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and
worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who
thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him.
No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are
also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone
person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you
lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh
anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you
are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What
trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be
judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless
empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if
they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't
be in their shoes. No respect for them....
I told you this godless
is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as
the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid
empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer
or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very
weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless
trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their
worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel.
WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt
CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:...
those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with
less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak
people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an
obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No
Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty,
(they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit
they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them.
(They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will
accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is
no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone
trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism,
that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their
miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty
as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and
all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous
miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and
godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit.
You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash
is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for
you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this
godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time
for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you
come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or
later...
Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it
and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as
your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest,
empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult
called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone
trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and
they will pay for it, and even badly........
They are so
desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you.
Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation,
and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid,
nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for
you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND
YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN
THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be
and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak).........
God
will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more
miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it).
NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are
just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does
deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any
Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT
ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person).
It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!. .
@@y5angerThen do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people.
For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it.
Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots!
For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people
constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to
help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty
stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity
and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they
can.
They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in
the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you
run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS
cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see
how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are
here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism.
Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God
when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth,
stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created
them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is
what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone
trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as
anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those
godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and
worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who
thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him.
No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are
also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone
person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you
lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh
anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you
are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What
trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be
judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless
empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if
they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't
be in their shoes. No respect for them....
I told you this godless
is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as
the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid
empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer
or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very
weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless
trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their
worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel.
WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt
CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:...
those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with
less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak
people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an
obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No
Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty,
(they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit
they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them.
(They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will
accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is
no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone
trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism,
that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their
miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty
as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and
all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous
miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and
godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit.
You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash
is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for
you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this
godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time
for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you
come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or
later...
Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it
and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as
your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest,
empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult
called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone
trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and
they will pay for it, and even badly........
They are so
desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you.
Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation,
and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid,
nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for
you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND
YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN
THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be
and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak).........
God
will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more
miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it).
NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are
just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does
deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any
Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT
ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person).
It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!...
As a little child I could not get my head around all the contradictions. I couldn’t understand the notion of Jesus hanging on a cross meant we could be forgiven. Where is the logic?
Blood sacrifice
@@Thunderwake.Jesus was an amazing historical figure and should be treated as such.Its the Catholic church and its twisted narrative of Jesus and his mother that indoctrinated me.Biggest cult on earth,which tried to claim Jesus as its own.😢
I'm just going to be polite here, but if you do not understand the sacrifice of Jesus and what it meant, then I highly doubt you read any of the Bible to any serious degree or no one actually explained it to you. The New Testament makes it pretty explicit as to the importance of it and what it meant to Jews at the time.
@@bloopboop9320 Funny, Dawkins is a highly intelligent man, it doesn't make sense to him either, or myself, both having read more Bible than most Christians.
It's the perfect description of an abusive relationship. No one will ever love you like I do, so obey me or I will torture you forever (and I read minds, so be careful). Just to make things more interesting for me and challenging for you, I will give vague and contradictory directives. Good luck!
The logic is that his sacrifice is so big (for the father to come and be along his children and not glaze at us from above, wow how loving) that he atones for our sinful nature and us accepting him allows us to reach the gates of heaven.
I am always amazed that Alex is such an impressive apologist. He is one of the few atheists that know more scripture than most bible teachers.
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people.
For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it.
Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots!
For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people
constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to
help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty
stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity
and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they
can.
They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in
the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you
run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS
cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see
how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are
here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism.
Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God
when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth,
stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created
them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is
what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone
trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as
anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those
godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and
worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who
thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him.
No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are
also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone
person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you
lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh
anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you
are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What
trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be
judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless
empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if
they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't
be in their shoes. No respect for them....
I told you this godless
is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as
the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid
empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer
or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very
weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless
trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their
worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel.
WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt
CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:...
those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with
less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak
people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an
obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No
Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty,
(they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit
they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them.
(They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will
accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is
no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone
trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism,
that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their
miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty
as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and
all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous
miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and
godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit.
You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash
is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for
you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this
godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time
for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you
come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or
later...
Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it
and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as
your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest,
empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult
called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone
trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and
they will pay for it, and even badly........
They are so
desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you.
Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation,
and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid,
nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for
you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND
YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN
THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be
and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak).........
God
will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more
miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it).
NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are
just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does
deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any
Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT
ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person).
It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!...
He studied a degree in theology lol
@Netomp51 What he gained a Ph.D in and has studied outside of that are two different things.
Theology is just a religious word for mythology no evidence for pagan imaginary beens. I say beens sarcastically instead of beings.
@@lukeriely4468 do you even know what theology covers ?
Would a "higher power" demand the worship of lower beings under the threat of eternal punishment or is this just how a lower being believes a higher power would act?
A lower beings limited view and limited mental capacities.
He doesn’t demand worship. The threat of “punishment” has been translated so many times so it doesn’t really mean torture.
When it comes to "punishment" for all eternity in He'll it really is not God doing it to us it is what we cause to ourselves.
God does not desire for anyone, ANYONE to perish. That's why he set things up for Jesus to take on the WAGES that we've earned so that we wouldn't have to face them, and also if Jesus had simply died on the cross and not rose up from the grave then it would have been meaningless his death on the cross. All there'd be is a dead savior who can't save anyone that death would have conquered. So basically if a person rejects him they would remain doomed to perishing.
Eternal.punishment is a Roman Catholic teaching and NOT what the Bible teaches. The Bible teaches man is mortal and must die however Jesus offers eternal life in the RESURRECTION to all who believe in him. All unbelievers will receive their judgement on Judgement Day and will be annihilated in the Lake of Fire (Gods pure Holiness unrestrained) Rev 20:10-15. Our God is a CONSUMING FIRE. IT IS A FEARFUL THING TO FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE LIVING GOD......unless you have accepted Christs death for your death and put your complete faith in him. Christs righteousness and holiness is then given to us that we too may enter Gods HOLY PRESENCE AS CHRIST DID AND IS CURRENTLY STILL IN HEAVEN, BEING OUR ONLY MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN. God said from heaven 3 TO 4 TIMES in the Gospels , 'This is my BELOVED SON, LISTEN TO HIM."
No one can die for the sins of another. To make it so is an effort to keep man in chains. To redeem himself, a man must accept full responsibility for his own actions or inactions, that he alone was the cause of his shortcomings. There is no other way to attain spiritual freedom. There never has been and never will be, no matter what anyone may want to make you believe.
@@KononR-gz4vo
All we can do is what we can do. Sometimes, people do less than what they could do and think they've done enough.
To believe that nothing we ever do is good enough, and we require something external to us to be "good enough", is sick and also, I think, wrong.
@@Big_Thony - My dear, I removed my above comments ... As for Jesus, he is not God, because (one reason) God can't die, and Jesus died. ☝🏽 Moreover, to make God to have a form or bodily image makes it easy to deny His omnipresence, and is defined as idolatrous in the Torah (Exodus 20:4-5; Deuteronomy 4:15-16). In addition, I am convinced that the way of salvation, being made right with God, is by doing the will of God for the glory of God as is taught in the Hebrew scriptures (the Tanakh). The New Testament is not a reliable source, as it has been corrupted by early church scribes. Paul's words that the Law was done away with, makes him a false prophet.
🙏🏽Regards
Sin can only be washed away by blood. The Old Testament is full of animal sacrifices. You can’t redeem yourself?
@@JelenaO-y2f - ♥️ *My dear, this has to do with FAITH IN GOD.* ☝🏽 We are saved by God's mercy and grace. In the Hebrew scriptures, the blood of animals was for unintentional sins (mistakes) only. It was not for deliberate sins. An example is King David's great sin. He was not told to sacrifice an animal for his deliberate sin.
David declares in Psalms 51:16-17, *"For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise."*
As for the New Testament, again I will say it is not a reliable source for faith and doctrine. Human blood sacrifices have always been condemned by God in the Hebrew scriptures. That God as a Judge would have the innocent man pay for the crimes of the wicked, is not Justice at all. THINK ABOUT IT.
Hence the New Testament claims of Jesus an innocent man having to shed his blood for the world is a foriegn idea against the Hebrew scriptures. If we sin it is clear in the Hebrew scriptures that we go directly to God, repent, and strive to keep His moral laws for His glory. He is ever merciful and will empower those who try. That's it.
☝🏽No human blood sacrifice is needed. The prophet Micah declares this perfectly - *"Wherewith shall I come before the LORD, and bow myself before the high God? shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves of a year old? Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, or with ten thousands of rivers of oil? shall I GIVE MY FIRSTBORN* [a human sacrifice] *for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?"* (Micah 6:6-8)
May we all do this,
Regards 🙏🏽
Thank You
Professor Dawkins is one of my current heroes of freethought. O'Connor is a new shining star. I was born into the LDS (Mormon) faith, though I am now atheist. Mormons, though as much misguided as any religion, are one of the more (comparatively speaking) intelligent Christian groups. I recently purchased via Ebay a book on the ancient Persian religion of the Avesta (Zarathustra). This religion focuses less on its god (Ahura Mazda -Wise Lord) and more on behavior. Its main teaching is "good thoughts, good words, good deeds". It teaches that we are free to choose our actions but are responsible for all of them. This is far more an enlightening belief than the vulgar bestiality of the Bible. Harrison Cother (The Truth Hurts) is a Jehovah's Witness turned atheist. He made a beautiful comment. "It is better to have questions you can't answer than answers you can't question".
"vulgar bestiality" ... that's a good one...
"Mormons....are one of the more (comparatively speaking) intelligent Christian groups" Sorry I had to laugh. 😂😂
You mean the folks who go around preaching 'Great Apostasy' without a shred of evidence? Sorry, where evidence of such an enormous claim is validated by a 'burning sensation in your bosom'.
Mormons are smarter is a very interesting take. Check out Trent Horn, Jimmy Akin, or William Lane Craig. They might change your life.
@@YourTypicalThomist I have never heard of Horn or Akin; I shall have to check them out. As for W.L. Craig, he is a most unintelligent man with rather stupid ideas. I have yet to be impressed with anything he has to say. My reference to Mormons being smarter has to do with their numerous universities -BYU -about the globe. So long as a belief; e.g. evolution or the non-Israelite origin of Amerindians, does not contradict with their ideas, they tend to have a fetish for learning. I attended Ricks College -now BYUI -in 83' -87' and was deeply impressed with them, though I was agnostic at the time. (no one knew this.) They also tend to support various school programs and -as I have experienced on both the giving and receiving ends -they have an EXCELLENT welfare program. They also run some medical facilities and teach at these as well.
Saying Mormons are smarter has got to be a joke right? 😆 🤣
The same Mormons who claim the supposed 'Great Apostasy' occured and can provide no evidence for this enormous claim? I mean other than the very objective pain sensation in their chest.
I am a Christian and I can tell you this… Alex O’Connor is one of the only atheists that is truly grappling with arguments and the Bible. The more I listen to people like Dawkins and other new atheists the more clear it is that they are arguing from a point of disgust rather than reason. It’s the same thing that some Christians do, but he is happy to point it out when they do it.
guess what. christianity is disgusting. just like any other religion.
Why? double morality, and organized stupidity.
Atheists hate God, it is clear, the emotions prove it.
any sane person should be disgusted by the Bible
Are you for real? grasping with the bible;this collection of idiotic ,xenophobic,hatred filled jewish fantasy book?you must have a brain rot for sure!
My mother was born in 1911 told me she read the Bible to decide for herself if religion had any validity.
She was 17 when she read it, ( in 1928 when the majority population had a religious faith ) .
She said it was the most disgusting book she ever read, full of murder, rape, incest, deceit etc. that she never knew about.
“ Just a lot of stories written by old men ( no women) to indoctrinate the population”, and through fear , made to believe we’re all born of original “sin”.
The mechanism is to have POWER over their subjects promising redemption if they follow their religious leaders and THEIR teachings.
Her father must have her prompted to read the Bible as he went to France in World War One (from New Zealand) believing in Christ , and came back an Atheist , and also a staunch anti-royalist.
It’s not hard to work out why he changed his beliefs.
Not sure if you've heard of Mao Zedong?
I Agree it's pure rubbish written by Jews to manipulate and control
Being Christian, I think it depends on how you read the Bible. Sure, there are many horror stories but there's also the love story of Songs of Solomon, there's salvation in Christ Jesus in the Gospels, there's Creation of the world before sin in Genesis 1 etc. It doesn't simply matter what's there (as evangelicals and Baptists may be tempted to think), it's also about it's overall meaning and how to historically understand each verse.
I flipped my Bible to random pages over the last few days - and ended up reading chapters from Jeremiah, Joel and Zechariah. These prophets predicted destruction, death, and the LORD's anger on His people. The chapters, however, also had a message of revitalisation and rebirth. Although the prophecies were full of horror, (1) there's a very positive element you might as well talk about alongside that, and (2) contextually, these prophets lived in dangerous times including during the Exile. With God's people having been captured, exiled and subjugated in foreign lands with no Temple - many a Jew would see this prophecy of chaos and destruction as related to their experiences. Instead of dismissing this as dark, horrible and a case for oppression, they may have accepted it as their reality, their lives, part of the human idea of suffering.
In other words, I don't think seeing the Bible as a tool for oppression does the most justice to the context of Scripture itself.
@@jackbaynes3959
There’s lots of love stories in Shakespeare too , of which many plots were based on fact and his own life experiences.
. But that doesn’t mean they’ll all factually true.
@leylandbarr7247 I recommend buying a few books which might change your mind. There's a whole world of Bible-testing that most Christians rarely seem to talk about. Read:
Justin W. Bass "The Bedrock of Christianity"
Lee Strobel "The Case for Christ"
Read pp. 792-819 of Novum Testamentum Graece (Nestle-Aland 28th Edition). That's a list of manuscripts that built the New Testament, which verses, the dating and where to find them. There are many that attest to the truth of the events, more manuscripts and better dating than the ones most ancient authors wrote.
This was such a good interview. I've already listened to the whole thing, but after this teaser, I'm going to go back and listen to it again.
You got Dawkins to agree with the idea of being born in sin on a poetic level. Congratulations Alex! 😄
Yes, he's intellectually honest. It's why he's such a great success.
at a poetic level. nota bene.
@@matswessling6600 - Baby steps. You don't expect Dawkins to accept the truth all at once, do you? ;)
@@randyruggles342 he acceots the truth. He doesnt fall for theological nonsens though. and that is a good thing.
@@matswessling6600 - I don't think he accepts the truth. He has admitted that he wouldn't acknowledge the existence of God no matter what evidence he was presented. As a Christian and lover of science myself, I strongly believe in the principle of falsification. There are several scientific discoveries that would cause me to be an atheist (eg, if the universe was eternal, if the multiverse exists, if life on other planets exist). If I were taking to Dawkins, I would suggest that, if he had no way to falsify his unbelief, he hadn't thought about it hard enough. I suspect that would make him mad. But someone in his position should surely have an answer to the question, "What would falsify your unbelief?"
Dawkins:" I'm sorry for you having to do a degree in this kind of thing. It's not a real subject, is it?"
Killer line. 😂
🤣
No, it's just a smart clever reply with no substance or deep thought.
But he is right!
2 Thimothy 2:24-25 "A servant of the Lord must not quarrel but must be kind to everyone, be able to teach, and be patient with difficult people. Gently instruct those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change those people's hearts, and they will learn the truth."
So, you don't need to *argue* with people.
Argument isn’t inately aggressive.
Title had me thinking Richard Dawkins was the most evil idea in the new testament
There is no evil. There are just good and bad things people do, and that depends on your point of view.
@@entropy5431 yep
@@entropy5431so by that definition their is no good and evil
@@Loyalist-i7p True. All things that happen depend on your point of view.
XDD
I love Dawkins’ bluntness.
I enjoyed it when he bluntly stated about Evolution that: "It hasn't been observed while it's happening."
I pity his blindness.
@@Nan45566 🙄
@@earlysda. He is a professor of biology.
He believes in evolution.
So how does he explain the missing link?
@@andywong9847andy, so you cannot give evidence of Evolution being observed while it's happening either?
.
Evolution is a faith-based religion for those who choose to forget God.
I know people laugh at us Christians but when you believe it’s a gift
It's a profound and unbelievable change when you shift from 'faith' in God to 'knowing' God is there. God will bless you in unimaginable ways when you turn to Him and say you want Him in your life. Then when you see how He's working in your life, it goes from 'I believe' to 'I know without a shadow of doubt'. It cannot be explained unless you pray and ask God to come into your life and that you're willing to change and not live an earthly life full of giving into temptation. It's a gift you want everyone to have. Every Christian has a testimony that will blow your mind.
@@SamSam-wd2nu yes, its all about YOU YOU YOU, isnt it? what a selfish, self centered belief system you have.
@@DAMIANWHITE-z2b Well a BELIEF would inherently be about the SELF. But as a Christian you're actively in the community helping people. We run an outreach team for the homeless. We run foodbanks for those in need. We give, help and spend everyday wanting to overcome the things we were doing wrong the day before. With the tone of your comment I feel like you have a negative history linked to Christianity otherwise you're behaving completely irrationally.
@@SamSam-wd2nu Well arent you special. Give yourself a nice little pat on the back. You are aware, I presume, that there are many organisations that do all the things that you mention here that are not christian or have any connection to any religion. I see you put the little christian judgement at the the end and call me irrational. I have nothing against christianity and christians in general, but I do get a little tired of listening to boring, judgemental, arrogants bigots like you. Have a lovely day.
I am pushing 80 years old and heading for the big sleep. (perchance not to dream.) All the BEST!
All the best my good man. Let us know what's after.
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people.
For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it.
Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots!
For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people
constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to
help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty
stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity
and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they
can.
They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in
the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you
run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS
cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see
how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are
here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism.
Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God
when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth,
stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created
them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is
what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone
trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as
anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those
godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and
worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who
thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him.
No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are
also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone
person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you
lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh
anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you
are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What
trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be
judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless
empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if
they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't
be in their shoes. No respect for them....
I told you this godless
is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as
the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid
empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer
or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very
weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless
trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their
worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel.
WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt
CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:...
those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with
less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak
people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an
obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No
Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty,
(they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit
they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them.
(They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will
accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is
no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone
trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism,
that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their
miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty
as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and
all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous
miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and
godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit.
You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash
is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for
you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this
godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time
for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you
come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or
later...
Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it
and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as
your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest,
empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult
called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone
trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and
they will pay for it, and even badly........
They are so
desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you.
Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation,
and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid,
nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for
you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND
YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN
THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be
and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak).........
God
will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more
miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it).
NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are
just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does
deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any
Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT
ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person).
It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!...
@@SamyasaSwiThen do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people.
For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it.
Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots!
For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people
constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to
help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty
stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity
and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they
can.
They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in
the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you
run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS
cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see
how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are
here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism.
Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God
when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth,
stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created
them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is
what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone
trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as
anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those
godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and
worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who
thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him.
No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are
also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone
person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you
lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh
anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you
are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What
trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be
judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless
empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if
they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't
be in their shoes. No respect for them....
I told you this godless
is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as
the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid
empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer
or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very
weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless
trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their
worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel.
WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt
CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:...
those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with
less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak
people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an
obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No
Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty,
(they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit
they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them.
(They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will
accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is
no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone
trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism,
that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their
miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty
as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and
all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous
miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and
godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit.
You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash
is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for
you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this
godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time
for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you
come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or
later...
Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it
and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as
your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest,
empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult
called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone
trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and
they will pay for it, and even badly........
They are so
desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you.
Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation,
and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid,
nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for
you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND
YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN
THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be
and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak).........
God
will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more
miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it).
NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are
just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does
deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any
Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT
ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person).
It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!...
I turn 92 this year. See all you fellow sinners in the burning hereafter!
Big love to you
It's strange that Dawkins feels sorry for Alex or anyone I guess, studying religion. I'm not a believer myself but it's an absolutely fascinating subject and one that has affected all aspects of human society whether actively now or in our history. If nothing else the philosophy contained within it, good or bad, is interesting in itself.
Plz read the King James Version.New Testament to.find out what Jesus said and taught. It is all you need and a willing humble heart open to Gods Spirit. Pray to.God to open your spiritual eyes and ears and to teach you. This is the way to eternal.life , to know the one true living God and his Son the Lord Jesus Christ.
It is not interesting nor is it fascinating. It seems No one can outsmart this smooth criminal.
3:12 Dawkins can't admit that he is not able to answer the question and that perhaps Alex has a point here, and instead basically says that the whole subject (and Alex' degree) is stupid.
Definitely a pull down. Showed a lot of maturity the levelled response.
He did answer the question. Clearly he thinks the idea of original sin is hideous. Try to keep up rather than trying to twist things.
@@gavinmcewen5896 2:50 Alex argued: "... not all Christians would say that a newborn baby is born in sin in the sense that they are responsible for it. It's more like [the're] born with a propensity towards sinning, which I imagine you would agree with; that newborn babies, even though they haven't committed immoral acts yet, they're born with this sort of this human nature, which has a predisposition towards doing things that fall short of our moral standards, maybe."
It seemed Dawkins couldn't answer, and instead decided to say :"I am sorry for you to having to do a degree in this kind of thing ... its not a real subject is it?""
It's hard to disagree with the point that we do seem to be born with a predisposition or propensity "towards doing things that fall short of our moral standards".
I don't think I am twisting things.
That being said, I personally don't agree with the Christian/Protestant idea that humanity is totally broken - at least this is the Protestant/Evangelical idea of Original Sin - the Catholics on the other hand think humanity - or the "image of God" in humanity - isn't broken, but stained, which I think is a much nicer view,
(though I am an apostate / ex Catholic myself and don't believe the Christian dogmas in the Creed to be (literally) true. In my view they are myths).
But I do think that on some level there is something good and pure in all beings that can neither be broken nor stained, that we are basically good on some deeper level, but that we somehow have lost contact with that part of our being.
But I guess this is a kind of religious thought, too ... and I can't prove it.
@@mailillthe idea of good and evil is man made made, its doesn't exist in nature, its just a way to explain the world created in pre enlightened times.
@@snowflakemelter1172 Don't forget we (humans) _are_ a part of nature. If something is man made, it means it exists in nature, even when we talk about our moral instincts (one could argue moral instincts are not man made) or our evolved cultural "intersubjective truths" or about good and evil (based on the moral instincts).
Edit: clarification
If we are born with free will, we have the potential to sin but that's a personal choice because we have free will and aren't destined to sin. However with kids, they do not know all about society's rules, values, weaknesses, nuances... They know what seems to work to get their needs met without understanding why and the possible impact.
So I'd say a baby is probably going to sin, not because it wants to but because it doesn't know what a sin is. A baby is doomed to fail in that sense. Is that being born in sin? At least it is involuntary.
you are and idiot;baby sinning?
I'm not religious, and I can see that RD's cynicism gets in the way of his objectivity. To nitpick the phrase "born into sin" and interpret it literally by questioning what a newborn baby has done to "sin" rather than see that it is clearly highlighting the fallible nature of humankind is a pedantic counter-argument. In the end, a person's inability to recognise a wisdom other than his own indicates an affliction of ego.
it's not really a nitpick when sin is used by the religious to justify the monumental suffering of, among other creatures, sinless infants. including cases in the bible where god orders children to be slaughtered.
you're not giving Dawkin's argument it's due here. if anything, i'd say your optimism about religion gets in the way of your objectivity if you *don't* think a doctrine of inherent sin is overwhelmingly negative and pessimistic. it has little to do with RD's arrogance and more to do with just how dismal and manipulate a system it is to say, "all are inherently sinful, if you don't subscribe to my particular take on absolutely everything"
nah he's just rightfully sick of Christian culture being rammed down our throats
@@Giantcrabz When was the last time you had it "rammed down your throat"?
The Bible says that perfect love casts out all fear. Then it teaches the fear of Hellfire if you don't believe in this, that, and the other thing.
💯💯🙏🏻🙏🏻💀💀
Eternal Hellfire is a Roman Catholic teaching and NOT what the Bible teaches. The Bible teaches annihilation of the unbeliever Rev 20:10-15.
Alex and Richard are both atheists. But that is about where the similarities end.
Dawkins has never allowed himself to 'put on my mind of a theist' so-to-speak. He's never allowed himself to imagine, 'what is it like to be a theist?'. He's so deeply afraid of the question his repulsion is palpable.
Alex has no such fears. In fact, the question fascinates him. He has taken seriously the beliefs of 99.9% of all humans through history (that the world is created by a supernatural being) and is willing to engage that idea.
Chalk and cheese, the two of them!
Yes. Dawkins refuses to give any semblance of respect to theism. Alex, unfortunately, does. Theism flirts with some interesting questions but it offers exactly zero answers. Alex is happy to entertain the questions, Dawkins cares about answers.
To suggest that it's "fear" on Dawkins' part is, to put it politely, fucking moronic. It's two different styles by two different people. Neither are right or wrong, Dawkins is just more right.
You are either right or wrong; you cannot be more right. In this case, whoever’s approach you enjoy more is subjective. Neither can be right or wrong on how they approach disagreements. Me, personally, enjoys Alex approach more though.
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people.
For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it.
Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots!
For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people
constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to
help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty
stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity
and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they
can.
They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in
the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you
run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS
cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see
how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are
here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism.
Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God
when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth,
stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created
them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is
what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone
trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as
anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those
godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and
worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who
thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him.
No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are
also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone
person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you
lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh
anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you
are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What
trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be
judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless
empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if
they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't
be in their shoes. No respect for them....
I told you this godless
is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as
the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid
empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer
or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very
weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless
trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their
worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel.
WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt
CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:...
those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with
less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak
people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an
obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No
Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty,
(they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit
they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them.
(They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will
accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is
no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone
trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism,
that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their
miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty
as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and
all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous
miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and
godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit.
You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash
is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for
you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this
godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time
for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you
come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or
later...
Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it
and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as
your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest,
empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult
called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone
trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and
they will pay for it, and even badly........
They are so
desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you.
Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation,
and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid,
nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for
you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND
YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN
THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be
and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak).........
God
will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more
miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it).
NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are
just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does
deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any
Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT
ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person).
It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!...
@@betadecay6503Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people.
For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it.
Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots!
For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people
constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to
help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty
stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity
and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they
can.
They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in
the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you
run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS
cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see
how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are
here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism.
Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God
when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth,
stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created
them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is
what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone
trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as
anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those
godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and
worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who
thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him.
No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are
also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone
person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you
lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh
anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you
are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What
trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be
judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless
empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if
they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't
be in their shoes. No respect for them....
I told you this godless
is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as
the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid
empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer
or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very
weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless
trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their
worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel.
WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt
CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:...
those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with
less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak
people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an
obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No
Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty,
(they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit
they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them.
(They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will
accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is
no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone
trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism,
that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their
miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty
as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and
all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous
miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and
godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit.
You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash
is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for
you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this
godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time
for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you
come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or
later...
Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it
and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as
your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest,
empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult
called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone
trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and
they will pay for it, and even badly........
They are so
desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you.
Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation,
and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid,
nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for
you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND
YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN
THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be
and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak).........
God
will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more
miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it).
NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are
just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does
deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any
Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT
ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person).
It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!.
@@eduardomartinez545Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people.
For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it.
Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots!
For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people
constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to
help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty
stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity
and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they
can.
They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in
the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you
run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS
cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see
how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are
here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism.
Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God
when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth,
stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created
them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is
what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone
trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as
anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those
godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and
worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who
thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him.
No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are
also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone
person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you
lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh
anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you
are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What
trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be
judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless
empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if
they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't
be in their shoes. No respect for them....
I told you this godless
is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as
the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid
empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer
or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very
weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless
trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their
worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel.
WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt
CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:...
those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with
less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak
people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an
obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No
Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty,
(they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit
they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them.
(They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will
accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is
no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone
trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism,
that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their
miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty
as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and
all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous
miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and
godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit.
You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash
is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for
you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this
godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time
for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you
come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or
later...
Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it
and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as
your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest,
empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult
called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone
trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and
they will pay for it, and even badly........
They are so
desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you.
Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation,
and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid,
nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for
you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND
YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN
THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be
and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak).........
God
will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more
miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it).
NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are
just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does
deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any
Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT
ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person).
It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!...
In all my years as a Christian (Protestant from the Netherlands) nobody ever talked about original sin.
BTW Hell and devils were considered metaphors for evil.
I am an atheist, but I think there is some wisdom in believing that humans are born in 'sin' (I would use the word 'corruptible'). The more we value humans individually, the less we value humans collectively.
This is more a Psychological subject (Critic Philosophy) than a religious subject (Speculative Philosophy).
@@antonius_006 True, but they intersect. Religion is an amalgamation of observations from many fields.
@@cerdic6586 who has science (History of compared religions is part of Analytical Psychology) doesn' t need religion or atheism (because they are bias).
@@antonius_006 Bias does not necessarily rule out the possibility of some truths co-existing beneath the surface.
When a Cuckoo pushes it’s competitors out of the nest, is it sinning? We’ve developed a brain, that enables us to exploit situations to our advantage. Vicarious learning accelerates it. We do it daily-constantly. Through education and example, we are are able to modify our behaviour, developing personal principles of appropriate behaviour. Some will abide to these principles more than others. Our upbringing and experiences may impact whether we do “bad” things. Sometimes we do them because we can. Sometimes we can get better. That’s the wonderful thing about being human-you can stop being an arsehole and improve. No God is required.
Some times it seams that the system was designed by someone from the department of motor vehicles. Stand in the right line , fill out the paper work correctly, pay the fees ,take the write test ,take the road test and bob’s your uncle ,you get a license to heaven.
That's human power-seeking, not Christianity.
That's called legalism and is not what Catholicism is. Picture humans as wild dogs roaming the streets. God is inviting us inside his incredible home with a beautiful yard, guranteed food and shelter and all that. But in order to live with God we have to give up some of our wild nature. We can't pee all over the furniture or fight other dogs or bite people.
Some of us aren't willing to give up that wildness and instead rather die painfully in the street. Hell is God saying "ok, you've made your decision and I am honoring your free-will."
@@JoeyG-o8r Hence my use of “sometimes it seams” . The fact that my observation has a known “ism” would suggest that it is a valid perception of how some religions conduct their actual on the ground processes. And certainly there are those in the audience,if I may, who behave legalistically. My original comment is not limited to Christianity but rather by human nature.
There is more to grace than a catholic flea bath, to push your analogy.
@@Pocketfarmer1 yea it's a perception of Christianity that many Christians and non-Christians hold, but it's a wrong perception.
What is heaven??
What does this vague meaningless word means .
Creators of religions , the bearded old men , are cheating us with these words.
"Millennia ago, they abandoned their belief in the supernatural. Now you are asking me to sabotage that achievement, to send them back into the dark ages of superstition and ignorance and fear? NO!"
-- Patrick Stewart as Captain. Jean-Luc Picard - Star Trek The Next Generation
In other words, "Don't make it so"...
I revere the character Captain. Jean-Luc Picard as the pinnacle of what makes a good person. The greatest possible good is always the goal, but an entities right to exist and live free of oppression outstrips most matters. A good person will not stand by for things that cannot be justified to them. A good person will always take into account as much relevant information as possible, not only for fear of perpetrating an injustice but also because of a genuine, zealous passion for righteous acts and the betterment of all who would be concerned.
I am partial to Mr Whorf :) @@danzilthard.7248
No, no, no, religion is not "superstition, ignorance, and fear"
This is your opinion. @@TheMilitantMazdakite
@1:30 the angel told Mary to name her child...as we know today in english...Jesus. That name actually means Yahweh Is salvation.@2:30 you may be an atheist but you are right@8:20 if science is timeless why does it change as our knowledge increases
I don’t always agree with you Cosmic Skeptic but I can see why you continuing on this path is beneficial to many people both Christian and atheist alike, you represent our side to the other side very well that it makes them think and vice versa, if anything it pushes for a mutual understanding of each others views so as to help both sides not talk over each other, God bless
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people.
For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it.
Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots!
For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people
constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to
help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty
stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity
and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they
can.
They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in
the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you
run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS
cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see
how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are
here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism.
Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God
when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth,
stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created
them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is
what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone
trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as
anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those
godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and
worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who
thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him.
No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are
also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone
person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you
lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh
anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you
are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What
trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be
judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless
empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if
they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't
be in their shoes. No respect for them....
I told you this godless
is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as
the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid
empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer
or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very
weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless
trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their
worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel.
WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt
CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:...
those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with
less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak
people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an
obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No
Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty,
(they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit
they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them.
(They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will
accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is
no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone
trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism,
that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their
miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty
as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and
all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous
miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and
godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit.
You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash
is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for
you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this
godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time
for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you
come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or
later...
Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it
and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as
your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest,
empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult
called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone
trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and
they will pay for it, and even badly........
They are so
desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you.
Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation,
and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid,
nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for
you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND
YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN
THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be
and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak).........
God
will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more
miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it).
NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are
just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does
deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any
Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT
ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person).
It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!...
The more of Alex O'Connor's videos I watch, the more I notice how he panders to the Christian idea that there is a God. Dawkins was very tolerant of the mental gymnastics in this clip. I can't agree that O'Connor represents atheists well.
"For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another:" - Romans 2:14-15. It isn't about a set of words you repeat after the Sunday school teacher. It's recognizing you are helpless in your sin, and committing to the service of The Creator of All Things with understanding that your impurities are cleansed by faith in Him.
Of course, no one can save anyone. Religion is about mind control through fear and guilt. We all get what we deserve.
My favourite example of evil is Psalm 137:9 'Happy is the one that seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks' .
...I have even had clergy try to suggest to me that in the right context there are situations in which bludgeoning infants to death on the rocks due to some crime or other of the parents, can be acceptable, further exposing a whole other level of evil that exists within religion!
So god sent himself to die on the cross to forgive us for a sin that we didn't commit??? Even then he could have just forgiven us???? How stupid is the whole story!
Really good questions and really good answers. This was interesting!
Believing in and endorsing a literal Hell is the ultimate perversion.
Indeed
Riiight. Because you have offered anything better? So it's "perversion" (very laughable word when used by anti-theists) based on what?
It is actually childish and disgusting at the same time.Very, very strange combination.I have read Quran recently and it is actually way worse than the Bible.In Quran you have threats by hell on literally every page.Extremly disgusting book.
To teach it to children should be a crime.
@@Darko.Damjanovic "Extremly disgusting book."
Hey, considering modern liberal push for normalising pedophilia, castrations and various other perversions you can think of. Even Quran is better than modern liberalism and leftism...which is funny because even Dawkins IMO realises that and he watsed so much time criticizing Chritianity when it could have been used to focus on West's actual issues.
Once you realise that all religious texts are written by men it all starts to make sense. In the modern age all ideas are questioned to the nth degree. In the past certain ideas were put above others and not questioned. And that is how they have lasted. Apostasy is the death knell for any religion.
Religious texts have always been put into question, texts that predates Christianity.
That’s not an argument
It’s not that we are “born” in sin. No infant is guilty of sin. We are born spiritually dead. Born alive physically but dead to God. Adam was created in the image of God, and he died in the very moment that he sinned, but his death was a spiritual death. The spirit of God that was breathed into him upon his creation departed making him a dead being. As a result humanity is born into this world in the image of Adam. Jesus’ death was for the forgiveness of sins for all humanity but it is through faith that we receive His spirit and are made alive to God. Hence, being born again.
Searching for the truth in circles …. No one has a clue what is going on …. Debate, discussion, it doesn’t matter, no one knows what this reality is all about , no one !
I found one man that knows what is going on. Rabbi Tovia Singer. Give him a try. He is a wise man and a nice Guy.
@@binderdundit228 thank you - I do know him yet in my view this is all a mystery and humanity is not being included in this discussion. No one knows honestly. That is my personal conclusion obviously.
Maybe some of these guys can help with good ideas:
Lao Tzu (Te Tao Ching, Modern Library)
Eugen Herrigel (Zen in the Art of Archery)
Mauro Biglino
Reza Aslan
Robert D. Hare
Carl Jung (Basic Writings, Modern Library)
Jeanne Avery (The Rising Sign)
John Maynard Keynes
@@antonius_006 I agree with you - they all believe what they believe, as we do , yet no evidence no facts ….
I think youd find that truly no one does know whats going on- and that IS the position of Atheism or Agnosticism. Christianity attempts to claim they "know whats going on" whereas the scientific conclusion is that we don't know whether or not a god exists
I remember I was young in sunday school when they taught me about Sodom and Gomorrah. That's when I started thinking. The bible was a guide for immorality, not for morality.
No, it was showing what not to do. Don’t be fucked up like Sodom. They did some real fucked up shit.
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people.
For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it.
Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots!
For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people
constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to
help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty
stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity
and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they
can.
They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in
the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you
run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS
cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see
how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are
here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism.
Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God
when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth,
stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created
them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is
what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone
trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as
anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those
godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and
worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who
thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him.
No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are
also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone
person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you
lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh
anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you
are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What
trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be
judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless
empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if
they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't
be in their shoes. No respect for them....
I told you this godless
is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as
the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid
empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer
or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very
weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless
trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their
worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel.
WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt
CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:...
those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with
less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak
people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an
obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No
Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty,
(they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit
they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them.
(They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will
accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is
no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone
trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism,
that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their
miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty
as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and
all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous
miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and
godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit.
You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash
is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for
you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this
godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time
for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you
come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or
later...
Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it
and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as
your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest,
empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult
called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone
trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and
they will pay for it, and even badly........
They are so
desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you.
Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation,
and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid,
nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for
you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND
YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN
THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be
and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak).........
God
will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more
miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it).
NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are
just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does
deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any
Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT
ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person).
It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!..
Of course is a book of Morality enoght godless alone trash people lies.... God will take care about you and your lies as well. No respect for you
perhaps you should read Ezekiel 16: 49-49. The sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was not sodomy. it was inhospitality to strangers (along with worshiping false idols). .
@@FriendofDorothy it wasn’t just inhospitality, they did absolutely brutal things. In Sodom, you weren’t allowed to help out the poor. Once there was a young girl who tried to give bread to a poor man in secret but the people found out. They tied her to a wall, covered her with honey, and they released bees on her. They ate her up
Any book that starts with a talki g snake and a God named yaweh can be discarded as nothing but mythology
“I’m sorry for you having to do a degree in this kind of thing” 💀
That was inappropriate: anybody can study anything. They do not have to adhere. The selfish gene does not exist as we know now. :)
You have not read the book or you would not have made such a truly stupid comment.
I knew a guy who studied history once I thought what a waste he could have studied anything been anything! 🤦🏻♂️
What does this post mean?@@dannybarr-qk9ly
At least there is hope for Alex. It's too bad that when Dawkin was presented by the idea that human could have "fall short" of the higher standard, he simply refused to consider the idea (perhaps, he must have think highly of himself) and patronized Alex for studying in theology.
Deep respect for both these men. Thank you!
Your statement is half true and it is deceiving.
One of them is right and the other is wrong.
You are required by conscience to make a choice.
@@andywong9847 how is that connected with the statement above or how does it prove it "half true"? Respecting someone has nothing to do with them being "right" or "wrong" on some issue, at least it absolutely does not have to be. One can respect two people with opposing opinions to each other.
There is nothing wrong with opposing opinions.
The end point is the logic of the opinion.
As a Christian, I have a lot of respect for Alex. He's the kind of atheist I wouldn't mind having a beer with sometime. Richard Dawkins, on the other hand, is the Ken Ham and Steven Anderson of atheists.
So because you don't agree with Richard (who was a creation of God), you simply dislike him and not love thy enemy? That is not the way you are supposed to be according to the instruction manual.
@@AJ-iu6nw Where did I say I don't love Richard? Did that just randomly pop up in your brain like the universe in your worldview? 😂
you would fraternize with someone like Alex. But Richard on the other hand, you would not.
Perhaps it's not that you don't love him, it's that you speak lowly of him in comparison of someone who thinks as you do. Someone who opposes your world view, isn't someone you want to even be near.
But I do wonder, do you love Richard Dawkins? or Marvel comics for that matter?@@MarvelGamer2023
to compare Dawkins to someone who wants to murder all gay people is ... something
So you would rather have beer with an atheist than god? Do you look both ways when crossing the road to not meet god?
Dawkins is so right. Many people don’t get him or don’t want to for some self destructive reason. It seems like people always try to make simple truths rather complicated for themselves.
I think people like the idea of Christianity more than what is actually in the Bible.
it`s irrelevant what you thing,anyway.People believe the bible bs because they`ve been brainwashed into it.
"it's not a real subject is it". the most dawkins statement ever
Yes, he claimed that it was evil, and when Alex showed it was not he just dismissed it. Very smart and honest.
Yea cause he is the arbiter of what's real or not...
@@chakvetadze9169 > Alex showed it was not
No, he didn't. He just gave a more reasonable interpretation, with no attempt to argue that it had anything to do with the intended meaning.
@@AlexanderShamov So, here is what's going on: He claimed something about the bible, then when someone engaged his point just stopped talking about it. The point was it was evil not whether or not it was true. You are not even trying to argue a point while claiming something about 2000-year-old theology. And the same time claiming you guys are men of reason and rationality. It is just hilarious.
@@chakvetadze9169 What's hilarious is debating over unverifiable nuances of meaning in some ancient fairy tale, making up strictly modern interpretations and then acting like that's what was meant from the beginning. As if people from those primitive ancient cultures would even understand these ideas, let alone invent them themselves. Now, Alex doesn't really do that last part, he just points at an idea some Christians substitute for these barbaric teachings. Which is nice, but it has nothing to do with the Bible. It's still evil.
You are a lucky young man to get to sit with Dr Dawkins as a peer and chat in such a familiar way. All your hard work has paid off Alex
Loving your neighbor couldn’t be more anathema to Christians today
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1 John 1:10 "if we say we have not sinned we have made god out to be a liar."
Roman 3:23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."
Who is to save us from our righteous judgement for our immorality and hedenism?
Isaiah 53:6 "We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all."
Isaiah 53:10 "Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
"I'm sorry for you having to do a degree in this sort of thing." That kind of sums Dawkins up perfectly. His philosophical nature only goes so far. Basically, as far as his ego will permit.
Religion is the first sign of madness 😮😮
I agree
The question of "How could you stand doing a theology degree" arose in my mind too the first time I knew about Alex. It would drive me nuts.
Well know thy enemy surely?
Do you actually know what is involved in studying Theology? Its not just sitting reading the Bible. In fact Christian thought was a very small part of my degree. The rest included Philosophy, Feminist Theology, Feminist Philosophy. I specialised in Buddhism. All of it was absolutely fascinating. My degree is also in English Literature which fitted perfectly with Theology as it is important to know theological and philosophical ideas when studying texts. Does Dawkins think studying English Literature a waste of time too?
There still are experts in Norse Mythology, Greek and Roman Mythology as a way to understand these societies and our own past and evolution of ideas. I don’t recall hearing how one had to believe in these “Religions” to fully understand them.
We will hear your name for years to come. Alex, you are everything I want to become, and in the two years that I have seen your videos you have become the person I aspire to be. The way you put forwards your ideas so clearly, the way you articulate yourself so well in front of a personality such as Dawkins, and the way you play the devils advocate showcasing your intellectual honesty, is so remarkable.
Alex, never change. You will go far.
Submitting to and loving a tyrant (God) is perhaps the most disturbing part to me because we have so many in love with tyrannical governments today.
I remember seeing a clip recently where an atheist (I think it was Dawkins) said he couldn't accept any evidence for the existence of "God". He basically said that he would consider himself insane or hallucinating if such evidence appeared. And while I agree with Kierkegaard's argument that living life as a human being requires some form of Faith, I find the rejection of any evidence for the existence of God or even a "spiritual realm" rather narcissistic. I understand it to mean that Dawkins and others like him are the final arbiters of moral and intellectual realities and any evidence to the contrary must be rejected by others. This may be true in their own mind but doesn't necessarily hold true for the rest of humanity. Also, Dawkin's form of argumentation just appears to be that anything that the Bible says that he doesn't understand or can't interpret must be "evil" and must be rejected out of hand and that seems the height of egotism.
Tend to agree with your summation.
One of the problems here is that two different understandings of "evidence" get conflated. One is that of scientific evidence and the other is more like the evidence presented in a courtroom. While they are related they aren't identical, and I think that guys like Dawkins, being a scientist, ignore the distinction. With metaphysics, no matter what form it takes, you're never going to have a slam dunk argument one way or the other, if you limit your evidence to the "scientific."
@@robgrano6814 The atheist in the video I referenced said the if he saw physical evidence written across the sky among the stars he would assume he was insane or hallucinating. He just rejected the idea that there is any evidence for the proof of God. His rationale seemed to be that since God doesn't exist then there can be no acceptable evidence that proves God does exist. He has drawn a conclusion without accepting even the possibility that there could be proof to the contrary. The inverse of most rational and scientific arguments as I understand them.
This illustrates the point that interviews don't have to be direct question and direct answer. At some points, it seemed they were veering off but it all actually made sense. Also a testament to Alex's interviewing skills.
What Alex conveys is a greater humanity and sensitivity than Dawkins does but let's face it, they both are critical of Christianity and religion. Alex is just a cool less emotional guy than Dawkins. Probably they both are most critical of religions that threaten hell to nonbelievers. I understand from going on religious sites that they give no respect and mock Agnostics. Part of this could be they feel they may find another step on the stairway to heaven by trying to convert as many nonbelievers as they can.
Part could be that Jesus wants terrible things to happen to nonbelievers and he is the pathway for believers to adopt that sickening mindset. I have to fear the moderator or AI on here for just saying what I feel. You may not find it wrong. I wonder how anyone can not think it's wrong of Jesus. Good luck to you, and of course I have no idea how you feel about Agnostics or Atheists.
Do you really think Jesus wants terrible things for non-believers? You said so l must assume you mean it.
But how can a loving God want that for his children. You wouldn't want it for your children so why do you think God would want non believers to go to hell.
Not that it isn't true that non believers will go to hell but rather that God does not want that to be the case the choice is ours. So if anyone goes to hell it's not because God choose it for them.
Isaiah 59:2
2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
It doesn't make sense to think God wants non believers to go to hell unless you think God isn't loving in that case that is your opinion. The bible says Good is love why does your statement contradict this fact.
If you as a parent had a kid and you happened to be a good judge and your kid was charged for murder wouldn't you find every means by which you could acquit your child from the prosecution without circumventing the law itself.
Isn't that why they call God a merciful God? The cross is God's way of saving his people from the condemnation of the law but sin is the transgression of the law and the soul that sins must die. To make this shorter not that it's short.
If Jesus didn't die we would all be condemned by the law to hell. I want to speak more about hell but l leave it for another time because l can see you have some contentions with Christians who preach hell fire without love or at least you perceive they do it from an unloving place.
Why would God want sinners to go to hell
I know you and l are not Israelites but there's no difference between Jews and Gentiles. See the Verse below
Why Will You Die, Israel?
10 “And you, son of man, say to the house of Israel, Thus have you said: ‘Surely our transgressions and our sins are upon us, and we rot away because of them. How then can we live?’ 11 Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
@@NgqabuthoLloydMafu When I read the bible it so full of contradictions when taken literally or figuratively. I see little evidence of a merciful god, just a lot of talk.
Scripture’s teaching is that all who die in their sins will immediately go to hell/Hades, where they will remain, conscious of their misery and despair, until summoned before God at the Great White Throne Judgment. These, who rejected God’s mercy, must face His wrath, and they are eventually judged and cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15).
"Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him."
"They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might,His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.”
@@NgqabuthoLloydMafu Calls a non Jewish woman a dog when she wants him to heal her sick daughter, says he's only been sent here to help the Jews, only when she begs and calls herself a dog does he help (does the miracle anyway but is still is a dick about it) Matthew 15:21-28
Calls people hypocrites and fools and then says not to call people fools or they'll go to hell. Matthew 5:22, Matthew 23:17
Gets anointed with expensive oil and fed by his disciples and people despite not working he's just walking around preaching. When someone suggests that they sell the oil to the poor he says the poor will be there forever you've only got me today!! Matthew 26:6-13, Mark 14:3-9, Luke 7:36-50, John 12:1-8 has this woman kissing his feet and crying on them to cleanse her sins, this is very reminiscent of egotistical cult leaders like Jim Jones and Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh who would have people pampering them
Just a very small sampling.
@@NgqabuthoLloydMafu Yes because I read it in the bible. he preaches about hell and that people that don't believe in him are going to hell. John 3:36, Revelation 21:8 Scripture’s teaching is that all who die in their sins will immediately go to hell/Hades, where they will remain, conscious of their misery and despair. His wrath .. and they are eventually judged and cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15).
To make mistakes is a human thing , to learn from our mistakes and trying our best to become a better person is a high standard for all humans , striving to become a better person.
Learning …. learning to forgive our shortcomings. learning to forgive ourselves and others.
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Why should I forgive, if mistakes are human?
Forgiveness is not for mistakes, People misuse that word, Mistakes mean you did not intend that outcome
And?
Richard Dawkins is someone I respect
Lol
He is a idiot man.
7:35 Spot on! Why prefer Christian theology when there are so many other options?
Moreover, Thomism has roots in Aristotlean Pagan Philosophy rather than Biblical Christianity.
Yes, that's the issue today. IMO Dawkins I realizes more and more, unlike many of his fanboys, that he wasted time by weakening Christianity and it created more issues for the West than solved.
Right, you could throw a dart and pick a more moral philosophy than the bible.
@@richardhedd3080 Bible has very poor morality.
You will see that 42 laws of Egyptian Ma'at beat 10 commandments in morality anyday of the week.
Infact Judeo Christian religion is less about morality more about social control of the benighted masses
When Dawkins is asked why he focuses on the Christian God, he says because that is the culture he grew up surrounded by, it's the one his audience is familiar with, so that's the one he primarily criticizes. When asked why he doesn't address the pinnacle of Christian religious philosophy with much detail, Dawkins says why privilege Christian theology when there are many other theologies.
It seemed to me that this was the incongruence Alex was pressing on, but he didn't want to press Dawkins too hard on it.
Name me one non-Christian theology that is as philosophically and theologically rigorous, with as much depth and sophistication, and with as much scope and explanatory power as Christian theology?
(Thomism is deeply Biblical. It just uses to the language and methods of Aristotle to expound Biblical truths. Just as Augustine was influenced by Platonism.)
I'm not a Christian, but I find the teachings in the New Testament interesting, especially when it comes to understanding freedom and liberation from the personal self. I sometimes wonder if Richard Dawkins might be interpreting the language of these scriptures too literally. Good interview appreciate Alex approach.
Well done alex, funny how richard has to change the subject to saying you took a horrible subject when you explain something to him that he clearly has not thought about enough
You cant debate him seriously when he cant even understand why people might believe in something, Richard just needs to enjoy his retirement
To me the real question is "Why don't people who profess to be Christians exemplify the basic principles and commandments that Christ exemplified in the New Testament?" They are so enamored with shaming others and seeing themselves as righteous while their own behavior rarely reflects "Love thy neighbor as thyself" but the only neighbors they love are those who are just like themselves. Real Christians do not go about wagging their fingers at others, they EXEMPLIFY love, for "God is love".
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people.
For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it.
Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots!
For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people
constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to
help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty
stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity
and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they
can.
They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in
the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you
run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS
cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see
how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are
here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism.
Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God
when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth,
stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created
them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is
what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone
trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as
anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those
godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and
worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who
thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him.
No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are
also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone
person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you
lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh
anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you
are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What
trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be
judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless
empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if
they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't
be in their shoes. No respect for them....
I told you this godless
is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as
the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid
empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer
or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very
weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless
trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their
worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel.
WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt
CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:...
those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with
less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak
people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an
obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No
Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty,
(they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit
they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them.
(They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will
accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is
no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone
trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism,
that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their
miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty
as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and
all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous
miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and
godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit.
You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash
is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for
you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this
godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time
for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you
come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or
later...
Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it
and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as
your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest,
empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult
called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone
trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and
they will pay for it, and even badly........
They are so
desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you.
Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation,
and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid,
nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for
you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND
YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN
THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be
and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak).........
God
will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more
miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it).
NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are
just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does
deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any
Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT
ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person).
It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!.
Interesting that you think that is your view of Jesus. Isn't he more a Quisling in the Jewish Roman War?
Completely agree. They should spend more time on that instead of trying to force their views onto others (which contains no reasoning that can withstand even the most basic probing or reasoning).
As Gandhi said: "Ilike your Christ, but not your Christianity. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ".
@@russellmiles2861 I must google "Quisling" before answering. It is an interesting word I have never heard (and I am a writer). Thank you for expanding my vocabulary.
@@saschamilenkovic4320 I re-read the New Testament during the pandemic lockdown. I was struck by the nature of Christ's primary activities. He mostly healed people and He fed people. He did not seem to communicate with a bullhorn and with a tone of shaming and guilt-tripping people into accepting salvation like most evangelicals Christians do. Shame has destroyed more lives than it has helped.; a young person can be destroyed by shame as such unhealthy feelings often lead to drink and drugs. He also did not judge them in the way that Christians do, despite the Bible's injunction to "Judge not, that ye be not judged." This is my issue with Christians and how they attempt to shame people into their own belief system and faith. Nevertheless I am a believer and have had remarkable (miraculous, in one case) answers to prayer within my life as well.
Of course nobody's perfect, but the problem with the idea of "sin" is that it says everyone deserves to go to hell for it.
Right, I hate the baggage that the word "sin" has. I prefer evil or shortcomings.
The concept that no one is perfect and infalliable is a decent one
The concept that you are a worthless pos who needs to beg the abuser to help you or you will suffer the consequences, is abusive
they are two completely different concepts and I lost a lot of respect for Alex when he conflated the two
You only go to hell if you do not repent of sin since God, Jesus Christ, died for you so you don't have to go to hell.
@YourStylesGeneric321 one of the most despicable lies in history
@@Vincent-fo7xp Yeah, it would be to someone who is unrepentant.
The idea that good people must die so the wicked can be wicked is wicked.
There is no way that was his original message.
What an excellent, excellent man!! How desperately we need his good thinking!!
Born in sin is not the point. Born with a capacity to sin is.
Said Jim Jones.
That is on the assumption that "sin" is a thing, rather than partially outdated moral standards.
Some may be good but a lot aren't. Don't let the dead peer pressure you into thinking that they had mystical wisdom, just because it happened in the past.
@@gaoth88
Sin-Subjective.
@@razony family of the Tan and Cos-subjective. (:
What is sin?we are animals.
THIS! I have always hated this idea of humanity being born in sin. It allows for so much hate, bigotry, sexism, persecution, and malice towards others who believe and think differently. It's a disgusting and quite frankly misanthropic way of thinking. That humans are inherently sinful and bad and that we need to be cleansed.
These things happen anyway, whether people think they're born in sin or not. I find Rousseau's insistence on the basic goodness of mankind vastly more repugnant, not to say ludicrous. The point is not that the idea encourages people to indulge in hate, bigotry, sexism, persecution, and malice towards others who believe and think differently. The point is that we see these things happen independently of whether people believe these things or not. The question after that is what we're supposed to do about it.
Buddhism says hi.
You've got the cart before the horse here. All those things you list existed before the idea of original sin was ever promulgated. It's a theory of what causes them, not the cause itself!
The worst belief is that sacricing an innocent saves the guilty. Nothing is more ungodly than this belief.
Awesome tablecloth!! Where in the world can I find one? It reminds me of some pieces I picked up in Peru years ago.
…and what is this thing about men not wearing enough hats.
Forget being poetic about it, it's undeniably true that we all fall short of our moral standards, without exception. This is an objective truth claim.
Then do not tell me this is not a sick cult with godless ass kissers and godless alone trash people that are so obsessed with what other believe and the reflection of other people believe. No respect for those sick godless people.
For Real? What kind of stupid empty cult is this nothing offer nothing gives, but empty BS? As God really cares about what you think and your stupid philosophy empty words as godless alone trash person (anyone who deny God is a godless alone trash person)… Another reason none can respect you, you are a lier as any modern Goddenier.. And we hope the next generation will be better then you and forget about you and your empty stupid worthless atheism not even worst to clean my ass. … you are just empty like it.
Then why only godless alone trash people are obsessed with hell, while we are not? Another reason to do not be like them, and live with this constantly fear… What idiots!
For really you did not get those empty Videos where godless alone people
constantly talk about God, showing their obsession, are made not to
help anyhow your godless alone life but to trap you into this empty
stupid cult called atheism they know we live in the time of stupidity
and godless trash people so they need to capture them as more as they
can.
They know you are the most stupid, weakest and alone people in
the face of earth and they need to take advantages on you. They know you
run anytime you see godless ass to kiss it. That what this empty BS
cult atheism make you be, without God and without dignity. But let see
how you are in trapped in this cult: Let see how many godless rats are
here with their empty words and life, just as their cult called atheism.
Why? Why Godless alone trash people want see the existence of God
when it is clear that if they and all the things they see around (earth,
stars, planets and so on) if they are creation something must created
them. For real no respect for those godless blind trash people. God is
what they do not know have and do not know in their miserable alone
trash life. But God will take care about them as well, once death as
anyone alse. Let's hope we will have better generation that those
godless alone trash one.... We really do not need this empty and
worthless cult called atheism and those modern godless alone idiots who
thinks God cares to exist what those poor alone people think about him.
No respect for them and their miserable godless alone life. (they are
also godless ass kissers, as they run anytime they see a godless alone
person... that what happen when you do not have God in your life, you
lose your dignity, and you start to be disgusting in that way)... Oh
anyway when you stopped to believe in God something died on you but you
are so pathetic that you are not willing to admit it (right?). What
trashy people without shame they deny their creator, and they will be
judge for it.... Liars ad patetich as any Goddeniers. so their worthless
empty life without him.... They are even the weakest people, because if
they are wrong, they are the ones who will pay for denying God... Won't
be in their shoes. No respect for them....
I told you this godless
is the worst generation (those people are just empty and worthless as
the cult they are in), and when it will be gone with their stupid
empty, worthless atheism that does not going anywhere, that do not offer
or teach anything, none will complain about it, not even those very
weak losers!!!!! ... Do not call them atheist but godless alone souless
trash. Let's forget about those worthless empty people and their
worthless and empty cult do not even good to clean the dirtiest motel.
WHEN YOU WILL BE GONE NONE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU AND YOUR STUPID CULt
CALLED ATHEISM. You are the worst of people, no respect for you:...
those are juss godless alone trash people, liers as any Godeniers with
less thing sacred in their miserable alone godless life… those weak
people are so weak and alone that they wait for an empty videos from an
obsessed godless person to kiss his ass, disgustingly (no God, No
Dignity) it would not change their life, actually more alone and empty,
(they do not even have a real community) empty life they live empty shit
they are in like this stupid cult called Atheism! No respect for them.
(They are very weak, empty and frustrated people, a life that none will
accepted, but those godless alone trash idiots).. those who say there is
no God will pay for it, soon or later... No won't be a godless alone
trash person into an empty cult not even good for my ass such atheism,
that offers them nothing. But emptiness and lonlyness for their
miserabile godless alone life. No respect for them. They are just empty
as their cult called atheism. But they will pay this soon or later, and
all the emptiness for nothing they are facing in their ridicolous
miserable alone life! It is time to throw on the trash empty atheism and
godless alone trash people, they are not even worthless to clean shit.
You can not respect them and their emptiness! It is over for you, trash
is not even good to clean you of all this atheism BS. No respect for
you. Let's really hope we can have a better generation and forget this
godless alone trash one as quickly as possible. IT IS OVER, it is time
for you and this nosense called atheism to go back from the nothing you
come from. No respect for you. You will pay all this shit, soon or
later...
Today I will put your BS atheism in the toilet and flash it
and you godless alone will shut up, ok? You are worthless and empty as
your stupid cult. No respect for you.... This is the worst, weakest,
empty generation, and when it will be over with their stupid empty cult
called atheism none will complain it. IT'S IS OVER, godless alone
trash.... Those godless alone poor people are playing with the fire, and
they will pay for it, and even badly........
They are so
desperate and frustrated in and empty stupid life... No sorry for you.
Let's hope in the next generation, let's hope in a better generation,
and let's forget this one and trhow it on the trash with their stupid,
nosense cult called atheism that will lead them anywhere. No respect for
you again..... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GODLESS ALONE TRASH PEOPLE AND
YOUR EMPTY STUPID ATHEISM NOT EVEN GOOD TO CLEAN THE DIRTIEST TOILET IN
THE WORLD... You got no peace over there (and if God is real you will be
and are f.... up.. You godless alone people are so weak).........
God
will care about you as well, poor person.... (you life is more
miserable and empty without God, but you are so patetic to realize it).
NO respect for you and your empty cult called atheism....... You are
just frutrated,obsessed, miserable, alone godless person that does
deserve any kind of respect, just to be so. (Lier as any
Godenier)....... IT IS OVER FOR YOU GUYS, YOU AND YOUR STUPID EMPTY CULT
ATHEISM That does not even deserve my piss….. all this just show how much those godless trash people are frustrated (to do not have what people have sacred and holly) no respect for them. it is time to throw away that empty BS cult called atheism that does not explain anything and it is not even good to clean the dirtiest toilet. Godless alone trash people, liars as an any Goddenier, dishonest and the worst and stupidest generation ever had. Let’s froget about this godless trash worthless generation and waiting for a better one. (By the way you will be judge as anyone alse once death by God, do not think you will escape because you deny him, as a godless alone rat as you are (You are also a disgusting godless ass kisser, that anytime you see a godlesss ass you run to kiss it. because you got no God and no dignity in your miserable godless life) NO RESPECT FOR YOU (your life is more empty and miserable without God, but you are the only fool to do not get it… WHY?)... this godless alone trash generation is the worst... Let's hope we can forget about them and have a better one. No respect for them and their stupid empty cult called atheism...... Godless weak people (you are weaker now and later ponce you will confront God, no matter what you sick people think about him)........... They do not deserve any respect, with their godless alone trash family who raised so trashy and sick to deny God. (and they will also pay fgor it, soon or later......... They got No God and no Dignity... something dies inside them when they stop to believe in God, but their are so patetic to admit... Soon or later they will stop to write empty shit on youtube about what we believe... Why? They are very weak, and quickly to change their mind about God... they are worthless people just like their empty atheism... but surelly they can not call theirselves atheists, but godless alone weak trash people. No respect for those liers or disgusting godless desperate ass kissers.... /they need to slpit on their dirthy mouth every morning as they deny God... but they are deceiving none but themselves, as they will paid for it, and be judge by God once death as anyone alse. (So it is better to be a son of God,m that a godless alone weak person).
It is time to theow on the trash atheims (where it belong) and forget about this generation (have better people then them). God will take care about them as well, and I won't be in the place of those godless weak alone people and disguasting godless ass kisses...... They lost any dignity, denying God, no doubt about that........ No God, no dignity for them, the worst generation ever!..
Maybe some people have no moral standards, psychopaths perhaps...
Falling short of moral standards is not the same as all humans being inherently evil unless we surrender our freedom to a magical leader. It just sounds like the perfect manipulation tool.
"You were sick when you were born, and only I have the medicine. But if you don't love me, you not only can't have it, you will be tossed into the pit forever. But I love you.
Textbook sociopathy
A religion that says it will burn you forever if you don’t believe in it isn’t a religion I would ever trust.
The whole idea of a god is so insane that I can't comprehend how anyone with a good education and a functioning brain could possibly belive there is. There is zero evidence, other than heresay or lunatics saying they communicate with god. There is no such thing as sin. There are laws, but no sins.
😎😎😎 and it is a sin to observe most of the laws 😂😂😂😂
If you are sincerely interested in why so many of us with multiple grad degrees who have examined the evidence critically for decades believe you might consider Stephen Meyer's book The Return of the God Hypothesis.
@@rhj6791 But you don´t believe enough to actually go to heaven ASAP.
Than why do you even mention it? Why does it bother you that other people believe something you dont? If YOU are really truly convinced that there is no God, it makes no difference whatever what other people believe, therefore you neednt badger other people into your same persuasion, aka disbelief
No such thing as sin (evil)? Just look around.
Loved Richard's pushback on you here so much and I think the concept of original sin and even sin itself is worthy of a lot more curiosity and interrogation. An interrogation which could be the jumping off point of some truly fascinating and beautiful conversations. Looking forward to listening to the full conversation.
Dawkins acts a little dense here. Does he not see the relationship between sin and a baby who has no morals yet, who only thinks of its own needs, who would take things that belong to others, because it does not know any better, etc.?
@@itoibo4208I believe his view is that in order to be immoral you have to have intent.
Loved Dawk the scientist Selfish Gene was life changing for me, but non of his religious tracts/pronouncements have meant a fat lot...
I most like the Blind Watchmaker
I don't think it ever says we're born in sin. Paul vaguely makes a link between sin and the creation story but "original sin" is a doctrine invented by the Catholic Church.
i dont think relating being born in sin and the inability to reach our own moral standards are the same at all. one implies that you are doomed already, the other leaves you room to grow and do good even if it isnt the absolute best
Btw if you read the Bible it doesn't state that you are inherently evil but that you are God’s creation that is good, meant for good(union with God). Being born in a sin only comes up in context of (and after)Adam and Eve’s sin beacuse they ate from the ,,tree of good and evil” wanting to know good from evil and be Gods like the snake told them(which is a bit egoistical don’t you think). Even though they were united with God(that is the good itself)
@@lukaerceg553 oh no, i dont think wanting to know good from evil is egoistic at all. if wanting to know good from evil makes you a god, youre a pretty powerless one if you ask me. if my dear child wanted to know good and bad, id let them know how to distinguish by themselves instead of having to rely on me to make decisions for them. also, if god created everything, why was there a snake in the garden? why was there a tree? what were the purpose of those if not to test them in order to condemn them later?
@@lilik6945 also, if god created everything, why was there a snake in the garden? *This is all revealed later in the book, the snake is the fallen angel Satan who was created good and chose to disobey God. Can you know if someone loves you solely from their words or would you rather have them show that supposed love through actions?*
why was there a tree? what were the purpose of those if not to test them in order to condemn them later?
*You seem to have a very Calvinistic/deterministic view of the fall of Adam/Eve. Adam had many good choices but he chose to do the one thing HE was explicitly instructed not to do (Eve was never told by God himself not to eat, the responsibility for communicating that to Eve sat with Adam - so Eve wasn't judged first). Here's some of the things Adam could have a) call out to God for help b) told the snake to sod off, c) told the snake he wanted to think about it d) just said no e) discussed with Eve (she had her sense woken since she ate first). Adam was not pre-destined to disobey God*
@@alisterrebelo9013 well, i am aware that the snake is satan of course. but i wonder why god wouldnt simply banish him from the garden, supposed to be a safe place for adam and eve, since he would know hes there and have the power to do so.
"would you rather have them show that supposed love through actions" - testing love is never a good thing, nor would i think god would have the need for such things as he is all knowing, so there has to be no proof of love. you didnt quite go into why there was a tree of good and evil in the garden though, which i find a very interesting thing to think about. i understand it might seem deterministic to say that it was predestined, but if you are given a choice, you will act on your knowledge and experience (all of which were given by god in this scenario) this is also the question of whether one truly has free will, so if there is an option, you are predestined to do "either or". what do you think was wrong about adams will to want to know good and evil? would that not simply be seeking out to know how to be good?
@@alisterrebelo9013 the referrence of god being our shepherds is quite common, so thats a big breaking point for me. as a shepherd, it is my responsibility to keep danger away from my dear sheep and to not let them graze where they could eat something bad. this very much applies to this situation in my opinion