So accurate, "yeah this arm is as long as the stage AND shoots a laser just in case it didn't hit you" Yeah, only a child can make something like that up, insane analogy lol
Tweek and Marss actually have such good chemistry with each other lol. Mars’s is the guy that is just kinda rude to all the non-pro smash players and Tweek is the nice guy, and they both love complaining about broken stuff and I am absolutely here for it
Dear editor: as an editor I encourage you to zoom in a bit more for the 2 shots of them. Doesn't need to be super close, just the crotch shot is always a little off putting and could hide the weird background better. ♥️ Fun video!
this was a good video. really thoughtful insights from top players, and i agree that tweek seems very expressive and comfortable being himself with marss. hope we get more of this!
I would LOOOVE to see a video like this but instead of the players discussing characters, they're instead comparing players and discussing who's better at different skills (edge guarding, defense, movement, etc.). If you get enough players to chime in, maybe like 4-5, this could make for a really cool video that highlights what makes certain players so good and shows just how different top players are in terms of their strengths and weaknesses
I’d love to see more of this content because this feels way more interesting than a tier list while also being super informative and just generally entertaining.
I would love the idea of what I thought this video would be about which would be what characters are the best for players with different skill level. For example, DK cargo run off throw is broken against people that don't mash. Maybe some stuff for players that don't tech? Pretty much just want to hear some characters that have really easy to play kits and ideas that can help the average smash player. Then maybe a middle tier like a Roy jair tech a causal wouldn't know. I just know me picking diddy kong as a main can be rough when there all these z dropping and wavebouncing b reversing attack canceling. Thanks
they were saying, by Marss definition is being off stage as edge guarding. they weren’t sure to consider Nikita but i guess they did, they also considered Min Min. i think Aegis has more edge guard ability than Snake. Snake can play deep or far off stage but it’s more as a defensive mechanism than an offensive. Luigi is a bad analogy but the only one i can think of, Luigi has tools for off stage but it’s hand countable, same thing with Snake. Snake is more ledge trapping and crazy neutral, which Marss *mostly * didn’t count as edge guarding. you could argue Aegis has hand countable edge guards but they’re STRONG options, like up B and side B are both recovery and edge guard options. And I feel like being trumped by Aegis is more likely than Snake. Snake can’t use his Nikita off stage, and he only has grenade, C4 and aerials. Aegis has a combo and kill move on everything and Tweek was saying like “you could do all those by accident and still get them on high percent or get a kill.”
Ledgeguards, yes. But by the definition they gave in the video Aegis does edgeguard better for sure. Mythra up-b is disgusting. Pyra's range covers so many options. Snake is pretty much just setting himself up to be reversed if he goes offstage without a guaranteed hit.
yo fact check on 9:26 ? ganon has the lowest ledge with ridley as the second lowest ledge hang. moves that would 2 frame/ hit most characters ledge hang miss these two characters in particular. wouldn't that make them have the best ledge hang? I used to solo main ridley for tournament and now i get hit by a move and think THAT HITS LEDGE! if I'm wrong please reply and tell me why lol.
Ngl the edgeguarding debate is really weird especially with Steve vs Sonic Sometimes Steve just shuts down recoveries like chrom inkling, Palutena etc because blocks are dumb. While Sonic can realistically cover options and is fine with resetting the situation for a bair or homing attack. Me thinks Steve is better because there’s less risk with him than Sonic imo but both characters are broken so who cares
Nah his defence is so much better. I get the whole "you can't hit sonic" but like, you can. Almost every character has at least one move that beats spindash outright, most characters have multiple moves. The same can't be said about safely breaking Steve's blocks without getting hit through them. Most moves that efficiently break blocks will leave you vulnerable to a counter attack from Steve. You need good range and frame data to hit them. Add on random blocks you can tech off of and Steve basically is a fortress while sonic is a fly buzzing around the house. Eventually you can hit the fly but good luck penetrating that fortress
Joker’s gameplan is around movement, but he doesn’t have as much mix as Diddy especially when you consider Diddy’s b reverses and ridiculous monkey flip You’re guessing vs DIDDY, not Joker
tweek describing min min arm as something a child made up during recess is actually the funniest thing ever
So accurate, "yeah this arm is as long as the stage AND shoots a laser just in case it didn't hit you" Yeah, only a child can make something like that up, insane analogy lol
@@Scythra “And if I miss the first one I have a second one I can use right after the first one and I can move while using them”
@@ShcoobyDoobyDoo sounds like a fever dream, but sadly it's true!
@@ShcoobyDoobyDoo also even though it’s my arm you can’t actually hit it back because it’s actually totally won’t hurt me.
An truest
Marss and Tweek bromance complaining about fox will never not be funny.
Both from tristate, both needed to adapt to Light causing havoc with this thing
good thing they took the time to film this while in county jail lol where tf are these boys haha
Tweek's recess creation description of min min is the best explanation of the character I've ever heard.
14:03 Marss just said traditional spike. Is this history in the making?
@@callmefleet *classical spike 😬 🥵 🥶
@@callmefleet came to make this comment lmao
I like how Tweek softens up way more around Marss than anyone else
why you making it weird
@@BIGAMBERFAN ?
I'm not making it weird, it just shows Tweek thinks of Marss as a friend lmao you're the one making it weird
14:06 It's true that Zss doesn't have a traditional spike, but can we agree that Zelda has the best classical spike in the game?
ROB and Pyra would like a word
What video was this on? I cant remember
No
Gannon bro
Or Mario
Tweek and Marss actually have such good chemistry with each other lol. Mars’s is the guy that is just kinda rude to all the non-pro smash players and Tweek is the nice guy, and they both love complaining about broken stuff and I am absolutely here for it
15:30 “Yeah so this arm is as long as the stage and it has a laser too just in case I didn’t hit you” LOLOLOLOLOL Tweek got me weak
It's nice that they filmed this in an abandoned post office
Dear editor: as an editor I encourage you to zoom in a bit more for the 2 shots of them. Doesn't need to be super close, just the crotch shot is always a little off putting and could hide the weird background better. ♥️ Fun video!
lmaoooo
If they thought that far they wouldn't be doing this in a jail room to begin with
this was a good video. really thoughtful insights from top players, and i agree that tweek seems very expressive and comfortable being himself with marss. hope we get more of this!
I would LOOOVE to see a video like this but instead of the players discussing characters, they're instead comparing players and discussing who's better at different skills (edge guarding, defense, movement, etc.). If you get enough players to chime in, maybe like 4-5, this could make for a really cool video that highlights what makes certain players so good and shows just how different top players are in terms of their strengths and weaknesses
I’d love to see more of this content because this feels way more interesting than a tier list while also being super informative and just generally entertaining.
One of the best videos I’ve seen of smash to be honest
Should've had an overall sauce/hype category
This is a great video idea, please do more of this!
Agreed
Love the video format, these two have really good chemistry as well
9:44 Tweek went to the party?
More of this type of discussion pls
MARSS should oil up PLEASE
@@ImHim-im8tk can we leave these in the brawl stars comment sections 💀💀
@@bobbycool2815 fr
You guys absolutely need to add “Stock Stealer” to the next video, to talk about which character kills easier and lower %.
i could watch this for hours, and there are so many "matchups" you could do
please more of it!
@2:00 dot fukemup!!!!
@@kumuqua ima take a stock
@@userr1225 Why you campin' like a bitch? Ain't you tired?
Duck Hunt is like Gunman into Aerial into Grab into Throw into Can that was behind you and you just got 0-death 😂🎉
10/10 video idea imo would watch more
These 2 together is just a perfect match
This video is ACTUALLY "Which character should we COMPLAIN MORE?"
AND I'm here for it 😂😂
Isn’t that behind them where people change their babie‘s diaper?
Pretty sure that’s just a desk my guy
But the other thing is funnier
Lmao if somebody came in midvideo to change a shit diaper
Yeah and tweek just ate it lmao
Bring in the Smash player who shit himself mid-set
I would love the idea of what I thought this video would be about which would be what characters are the best for players with different skill level. For example, DK cargo run off throw is broken against people that don't mash. Maybe some stuff for players that don't tech? Pretty much just want to hear some characters that have really easy to play kits and ideas that can help the average smash player. Then maybe a middle tier like a Roy jair tech a causal wouldn't know. I just know me picking diddy kong as a main can be rough when there all these z dropping and wavebouncing b reversing attack canceling. Thanks
You could just tell that Fox was gonna be one of the characters given the mention of Tweek's trauma fighting Light's Fox early on lol.
i need a compilation of top players complaining about fox or other characters bc its always hilarious
I feel like killing should have been a category. A character line Incin or Byleth would look horrible on this comparison but they just kill
I’m pretty sure that Jigglypuff art is from Brawl
All you need to know is ZSS sucks
i refuse to believe marss propaganda
Didn’t you hear?? ZSS doesn’t suck anymore, Marss said it himself
@@Snack1118 She never sucked she just say inconsistancy issues. Its a meme she has always been good
Tweeks tattoo reminds me of eye & hand society.
Probably nothing to do with godhandusa tho lmao
They forgot that Fox can shine stall his recovery
It looks like brawl jigglypuff
I feel like there are some key categories missing here, like kill confirms and raw kill power for example
5:55
Dont worry, im working on it 😈😈
ok cool vid dont get me wrong but where are you guys filming? the bathroom in supernova?
Sonic has the best ledgehang in the game why ? I thought it was ridley and ganon due to how low they hang (lower than sonic)
maybe he meant best ledgehang on a good character
Edit: good to know guys, thanks👍
@@callmefleetno, Sonic has the best ledgehang in the game though Ganondorf is definitely number 1 or 2…
But it’s still crazy Sonic has that
@@callmefleetno it's literally just the best, it's the lowest ledge hand in the game, check any chart
Snake edge guards better than ageis , Nikita , fair , bair even up smash
they were saying, by Marss definition is being off stage as edge guarding. they weren’t sure to consider Nikita but i guess they did, they also considered Min Min. i think Aegis has more edge guard ability than Snake. Snake can play deep or far off stage but it’s more as a defensive mechanism than an offensive. Luigi is a bad analogy but the only one i can think of, Luigi has tools for off stage but it’s hand countable, same thing with Snake. Snake is more ledge trapping and crazy neutral, which Marss *mostly * didn’t count as edge guarding.
you could argue Aegis has hand countable edge guards but they’re STRONG options, like up B and side B are both recovery and edge guard options. And I feel like being trumped by Aegis is more likely than Snake. Snake can’t use his Nikita off stage, and he only has grenade, C4 and aerials. Aegis has a combo and kill move on everything and Tweek was saying like “you could do all those by accident and still get them on high percent or get a kill.”
You forgot box, the most optimal edge guarding move
Ledgeguards, yes. But by the definition they gave in the video Aegis does edgeguard better for sure. Mythra up-b is disgusting. Pyra's range covers so many options. Snake is pretty much just setting himself up to be reversed if he goes offstage without a guaranteed hit.
cool video idea
yo fact check on 9:26 ? ganon has the lowest ledge with ridley as the second lowest ledge hang. moves that would 2 frame/ hit most characters ledge hang miss these two characters in particular. wouldn't that make them have the best ledge hang? I used to solo main ridley for tournament and now i get hit by a move and think THAT HITS LEDGE! if I'm wrong please reply and tell me why lol.
Why was t there a ledge trapping category ?
Banger
i really dont see how they could think aegis has better edgeguarding than snake tbh
Ngl the edgeguarding debate is really weird especially with Steve vs Sonic
Sometimes Steve just shuts down recoveries like chrom inkling, Palutena etc because blocks are dumb. While Sonic can realistically cover options and is fine with resetting the situation for a bair or homing attack.
Me thinks Steve is better because there’s less risk with him than Sonic imo but both characters are broken so who cares
Getting hit by Fox is a choice
Part 2?
Sonic has the best classical spike
Is this common? I always thought that people call pyra/ mythra pythra not aeges
i came here to disagree with some takes, but i am afraid i agree with all!
why are they filming this in a prison cell 😭😭😭
We filmed this in the media room at Supernova. The only quiet place in the entire venue 👍
@@luminositysmashah ok thanks lmaooo
why they sitting in the principals office
my two goats
So did they say light is not good lol?? 😊 I see no other fox do any of that stuff but also these two are also the best with their characters
Yeah true
snakes nikita is a million times better than aegis at edge guarding
Like Pyra is mainly 2 framing
If you’re getting hit by flame nova offstage you’re just either bad at recovering or hand no options
Isnt that brawl jiggs?
They really are pros
I watched this Video while trying to uncloq my ears with Olive oil (it did Not Work)
I think the only thing Steve has over Sonic is combos imo
Nah his defence is so much better. I get the whole "you can't hit sonic" but like, you can. Almost every character has at least one move that beats spindash outright, most characters have multiple moves. The same can't be said about safely breaking Steve's blocks without getting hit through them. Most moves that efficiently break blocks will leave you vulnerable to a counter attack from Steve. You need good range and frame data to hit them. Add on random blocks you can tech off of and Steve basically is a fortress while sonic is a fly buzzing around the house. Eventually you can hit the fly but good luck penetrating that fortress
@@elmacho1336 That’s just like, your opinion man
@@RealBroccoliHour ok? Your point?
Ma boysssss
Tweek is so funny
9:46 🤨
why is tweek steve downplaying
Why do they look like they are sitting in prison??
W vid
W!
nice try diddy
all my homies hate fox
Easy Cloud and mr Game and wat h.
yeye
light's garbage
TWEEK is meat riding didy jokers movement is infinitly better he has the best movement and hurtbox shifts in the damn game
Joker excels at movement
WRONG INSTANTLY joker is the movement master dude tf is wrong with you tweek
Joker’s gameplan is around movement, but he doesn’t have as much mix as Diddy especially when you consider Diddy’s b reverses and ridiculous monkey flip
You’re guessing vs DIDDY, not Joker
Dont disagree with us... oh wait 9:34 now we disagree? Yeah hmm