I re bought a 707 recently for one effect and one effect only: Time trip. It sounds like a stupid delay effect, a bit like a ping pong ball bouncing to rest on a table. BUT if you set the sensitivity extremely low on it (+ or-) you get dynaflanger sounds, envelope chorus effects, warped tape sounds.
Thank you so much for this video, it is incredibly difficult to find any good videos that feature a pedal like this one, I use the previous model, gfx 707, and it is extremely similar to the 707 2, I have used every patch ( with the exception of a few) to make some sort of a song, a lot of times I've used certain weird sounding patches as the basis for the kind of song it was going to be, and things like that were done in improvisational settings, also I have used this pedal as my main one many times to play live shows and they sounded great, and I can't tell you how many times I've adjusted all the parameters of every module to perfect an overall sound, only to end up resetting the pedal and then do it all over again, once I tried to pick one distortion type from the ones available in the distortion module, and I selected the lead type, then made duplicate patches of that, and used that as the basis for developing my other patches, which I would add things like delay etc, and equalizing all parameters to zero ( flat ) and then use the eq on whatever amp I was using to get the equalization that sounded good to me, at this point in my life I don't expect to be playing on stage anymore, I will probably just get together with some friends and jam from time to time, so there is no reason for me to invest in any better equipment, therefore I will continue to use my 707, thanks again
Hi Joe, great job with managing to come up with something to play for all those patches. I wish I still had my first bunch of fx pedals from when I first started down this road in 1973. Back then of course these things weren't vintage, but two in particular that I remember were a Tonebender fuzz and an EHX Small Stone phaser. I also recall they both broke down, so they're both now in landfill somewhere. 😢😁
Great demo, thanks for the time investment here! You mention "you can hear the primitive digital graininess" @25:52 - maybe, but use these down a full pub live and I guarantee your average punter will not be hearing or thinking that. This is a perfectly acceptable and versatile bit of kit to use today and if you're out and about playing covers for fun, this is still worth keeping :)
My first pedal too though I wasn't a young pup 20 years ago (even if I felt like one).... I loved the built in drum sounds... it stopped working after a year or so sadly. I used a Tanglewood Tomkat with it. Thanks for the memory
Good Stuff!!! - The Amp Simulator On The Zoom 707 Adds A Lot Of Different Tones To Each Effect. - Try ' Full STACK A' Amp Sim On VanHalen - Gain 20, It Really Drives A Guitar Amplifier Speaker For Some Heavy Riffing.... Rock n' Roll!!! - 🤘🎸😄👍
My first pedal was a JHS Super Distortion in about 85, which I still have. My first multi effects was a Zoom 2020 followed by a 505, I have those still too. Also several other Zoom pedals, from which I manage to find some very usable sounds. I still mainly use analogue pedals though.
Is this the first time Joe has played a digital pedal on his channel? This pedal is cool even though it lack dynamics on most of the gain settings. I love those "ancient" digital technology, they still have something to say. Joe, will you start integrating in your channel old digital effects like the Boss DD-2, Korg SDD-3000 and so on? Guitar Childhood memory: My first guitar was my cousin Flying V copy and i used to play it into his Crate amp that had a spring reverb in it. I came to pedal very very late. In the beginning i didn't know anything about effects. It was all about playing. All the technical details came much later. I just wanted to play like Martin Gore from Depeche Mode and Robert Smith from The Cure. This was in 2004. I still remember that Flying V and i wish i still had it.
Aha, probably one of the only times I have...though I don't anticipate routinely using digital gear going forwards! I'd like to try a V one day but it's not at the top of my list! (Firebird and Explorer come above it in the Gibson world, for me!)
My first multi effects was also a zoom. But it was a 505. I still see them used for $30 to $50. Then I upgraded to a Zoom 1010. The crazy thing was they sounded great into my headphones but terrible into my amp. Now I have a G3XN that sounds so much better with 16 amp's, 16 cab's, and 2 mic's
I USE IT ALSO MANY TIMES ON CONCERT HERE ON PHILIPPINE COUNTRY . I USUAL STORM SWEEP WITH HEAVY DISTORTION WITH SPRING REVERB ON NECK PICK UP POSITION SELECTOR SWITCH AND OUR BAND HAVE BEEN TELEVISED AND RADIO HERE ON PHILIPPINE COUNTRY LAST 2003 . I LIKE ALSO THE TONE EQUALIZER OF IT AND THE DELAY HALL . HEHE
I like your riff salad, lol. Sounded like me when I test gear at guitar stores. While all the kids are playing songs I'm just making up stuff. My first pedal that wasn't a multi effects was an MXR distortion plus, then a crybaby wah, then an electro harmonix electric mistress flanger.
I actually really dug the 60s fuzz / heavy reverb stuff. And it definitely has some nice sounding choruses. Zoom is still the go-to delay/modulation effects pedal for synths. BTW My first pedal was an Electric Mistress and I still miss her.
Had one of those it worked well I created an effect on it that was great for blues to bad it got stolen, I have never been able to get a professional l grade peddle that could recreate that sound .
I liked the one labeled "STEP". Worth it for just that one sound. If The Darkness can start out a song with a tinny am radio sound, or Aldo Nova with a helicopter sound, why not this???
I like your face expressions while playing. This was also my first one, still have it and use it as a tuner (bypass mode) and also for an effect or two for home practise (remember preselect mode?). Is it realy 20years old? Wow, getting older.. The sound was amazing decades ago when we had a band in which we guitarists were sounding like beez and we liked that then. Nowadays we do different music, so have to study it a bit more to find the right tune and use it more often in a band. It sounded too digital for me after some time, so it was retired. But I gave it a chance in Covid era. Gonna build myself a new pedal board and it will have a place on it. Never tried the loop function it has, did you? That’s what I’ve been looking for and stumble upon your video here. Nice playing btw, liked it. Be well!
I'm surprised at how good the Overdrive (A6) sounds. An open and coarse crunch like that is something I think most digital modelling struggles with even today. Do all the patches have the same output level? Or were we hearing that patch drive the JTM45 a bit harder?
The level was set the at max on the pedal, but the patches did vary a fair bit in terms of output. Though the JTM was set very clean with headroom to spare, so none of the gain was coming from the amp. :-)
@@blacksquareknight interesting, thanks for that info. It seems the compression, gain/overdrive/distortion and eq is analogue. Almost certainly explains why it sounds better than a digital modeller.
Not just the best chance for it to sound good, but by the same score, the ability to sound its worst as you might be able to hear all the things it falls short on. 😉😃
@@JoePerkinsMusic Awesome. Thanks, man. Believe it or not I think the zoom algorithm for acoustic sims is better than the "standard" orange boss pedal AC-2 series. I can't get a good sound out of that pedal and the clips I've heard on youtube of the various zoom stuff all sound way better. Maybe this old 707 had a much older algorithm and they've improved it a bunch on the stuff from the 2020's era.
@Abs quatulate I bought my Fuzz brand new in 1964 :-) It went well with my Harmony Rocket guitar and my National amp, LOL I have cut my collection back to only the pedals I use on a more or less daily basis, ... 66. I might use 33 on a Monday but by Wednesday I have used them all. I have them wired as 3 separate boards but all connected to one switcher. The idea as each part of a song I can have one board for the verse, another the chorus and a third for the mid 8/solo. One board is basically for clean and low gain OD's another for medium gain and a third for high gain & metal OD's Each has it's own, Comp, Gate, Delay and Reverb and a Fuzz or 2. Modulation pedals put here and there where I like them. It allows for both color and drama in a single tune. I can go from a perfect shade of grey to another or make a bombastic contrast. For example I would use a Plexi pedal on the verse to a JCM 800 like pedal on the chorus and I might follow that with a heavy octave Doom Fuzz, or a Synth pedal on the mid 8.. I write all my own tunes & literally orchestrate them. I have a Prog Metal trio. I also do all the vocals. I'm 75 ,LOL. It took years and hours a day to learn the theory and master the technique. But I love it!!!
I re bought a 707 recently for one effect and one effect only: Time trip. It sounds like a stupid delay effect, a bit like a ping pong ball bouncing to rest on a table. BUT if you set the sensitivity extremely low on it (+ or-) you get dynaflanger sounds, envelope chorus effects, warped tape sounds.
Thank you so much for this video, it is incredibly difficult to find any good videos that feature a pedal like this one, I use the previous model, gfx 707, and it is extremely similar to the 707 2, I have used every patch ( with the exception of a few) to make some sort of a song, a lot of times I've used certain weird sounding patches as the basis for the kind of song it was going to be, and things like that were done in improvisational settings, also I have used this pedal as my main one many times to play live shows and they sounded great, and I can't tell you how many times I've adjusted all the parameters of every module to perfect an overall sound, only to end up resetting the pedal and then do it all over again, once I tried to pick one distortion type from the ones available in the distortion module, and I selected the lead type, then made duplicate patches of that, and used that as the basis for developing my other patches, which I would add things like delay etc, and equalizing all parameters to zero ( flat ) and then use the eq on whatever amp I was using to get the equalization that sounded good to me, at this point in my life I don't expect to be playing on stage anymore, I will probably just get together with some friends and jam from time to time, so there is no reason for me to invest in any better equipment, therefore I will continue to use my 707, thanks again
excellent demo. guitar players doing a demo of the 707ii don’t usually go through all the effects like you did. nice.
Hi Joe, great job with managing to come up with something to play for all those patches. I wish I still had my first bunch of fx pedals from when I first started down this road in 1973. Back then of course these things weren't vintage, but two in particular that I remember were a Tonebender fuzz and an EHX Small Stone phaser. I also recall they both broke down, so they're both now in landfill somewhere. 😢😁
Great demo, thanks for the time investment here! You mention "you can hear the primitive digital graininess" @25:52 - maybe, but use these down a full pub live and I guarantee your average punter will not be hearing or thinking that. This is a perfectly acceptable and versatile bit of kit to use today and if you're out and about playing covers for fun, this is still worth keeping :)
My first pedal too though I wasn't a young pup 20 years ago (even if I felt like one).... I loved the built in drum sounds... it stopped working after a year or so sadly. I used a Tanglewood Tomkat with it. Thanks for the memory
Good Stuff!!! - The Amp Simulator On The Zoom 707 Adds A Lot Of Different Tones To Each Effect. - Try ' Full STACK A' Amp Sim On VanHalen - Gain 20, It Really Drives A Guitar Amplifier Speaker For Some Heavy Riffing.... Rock n' Roll!!! - 🤘🎸😄👍
Thanks for the run through the patches!
My first pedal was a JHS Super Distortion in about 85, which I still have. My first multi effects was a Zoom 2020 followed by a 505, I have those still too. Also several other Zoom pedals, from which I manage to find some very usable sounds.
I still mainly use analogue pedals though.
I've got one time to dig it out 😊
I think plenty of them could be used today. Wind was pretty unique and D-feel had excellent tone for classic rock.
Is this the first time Joe has played a digital pedal on his channel?
This pedal is cool even though it lack dynamics on most of the gain settings. I love those "ancient" digital technology, they still have something to say.
Joe, will you start integrating in your channel old digital effects like the Boss DD-2, Korg SDD-3000 and so on?
Guitar Childhood memory: My first guitar was my cousin Flying V copy and i used to play it into his Crate amp that had a spring reverb in it. I came to pedal very very late. In the beginning i didn't know anything about effects. It was all about playing. All the technical details came much later. I just wanted to play like Martin Gore from Depeche Mode and Robert Smith from The Cure. This was in 2004.
I still remember that Flying V and i wish i still had it.
Aha, probably one of the only times I have...though I don't anticipate routinely using digital gear going forwards! I'd like to try a V one day but it's not at the top of my list! (Firebird and Explorer come above it in the Gibson world, for me!)
If he has played delay or reverb pedals, no, it is not first time, they are digital.
Can't say, have not seen this channel before.
ZOOM 707-2 WAS MY FIRST MULTI EFFECTS PEDAL. STILL HAVE A G9. ANYWAY THANKS FOR THE TRIP BACK.
I had 2 of them i wish i still had one i cant fing one you want to sell it. I love the Hyper sound with the octave lower so heavy.
My first multi effects was also a zoom. But it was a 505. I still see them used for $30 to $50. Then I upgraded to a Zoom 1010. The crazy thing was they sounded great into my headphones but terrible into my amp. Now I have a G3XN that sounds so much better with 16 amp's, 16 cab's, and 2 mic's
I USE IT ALSO MANY TIMES ON CONCERT HERE ON PHILIPPINE COUNTRY . I USUAL STORM SWEEP WITH HEAVY DISTORTION WITH SPRING REVERB ON NECK PICK UP POSITION SELECTOR SWITCH AND OUR BAND HAVE BEEN TELEVISED AND RADIO HERE ON PHILIPPINE COUNTRY LAST 2003 . I LIKE ALSO THE TONE EQUALIZER OF IT AND THE DELAY HALL . HEHE
My first pedal was a DS1 from about 1985. Back then I didn't even know that multi effects pedals existed. Maybe they did, or maybe they didn't?
My first: DOD Thrashmaster (hot pink). Then I think I acquired a Yamaha Rex 50 which had serious issues and limitations despite its many cool features
This was my first guitar effect processor. Budget friendly and good sound.
I like your riff salad, lol. Sounded like me when I test gear at guitar stores. While all the kids are playing songs I'm just making up stuff. My first pedal that wasn't a multi effects was an MXR distortion plus, then a crybaby wah, then an electro harmonix electric mistress flanger.
I actually really dug the 60s fuzz / heavy reverb stuff. And it definitely has some nice sounding choruses.
Zoom is still the go-to delay/modulation effects pedal for synths.
BTW My first pedal was an Electric Mistress and I still miss her.
some tones are even better than newer zoom g1xfour
Had one of those it worked well I created an effect on it that was great for blues to bad it got stolen, I have never been able to get a professional l grade peddle that could recreate that sound .
I liked the one labeled "STEP". Worth it for just that one sound. If The Darkness can start out a song with a tinny am radio sound, or Aldo Nova with a helicopter sound, why not this???
forget the expression pedal on some of these as some of them are programmed specifically for this digital unit .
I like your face expressions while playing.
This was also my first one, still have it and use it as a tuner (bypass mode) and also for an effect or two for home practise (remember preselect mode?). Is it realy 20years old? Wow, getting older.. The sound was amazing decades ago when we had a band in which we guitarists were sounding like beez and we liked that then. Nowadays we do different music, so have to study it a bit more to find the right tune and use it more often in a band. It sounded too digital for me after some time, so it was retired. But I gave it a chance in Covid era. Gonna build myself a new pedal board and it will have a place on it. Never tried the loop function it has, did you? That’s what I’ve been looking for and stumble upon your video here.
Nice playing btw, liked it.
Be well!
I'm surprised at how good the Overdrive (A6) sounds. An open and coarse crunch like that is something I think most digital modelling struggles with even today. Do all the patches have the same output level? Or were we hearing that patch drive the JTM45 a bit harder?
The level was set the at max on the pedal, but the patches did vary a fair bit in terms of output. Though the JTM was set very clean with headroom to spare, so none of the gain was coming from the amp. :-)
@@blacksquareknight interesting, thanks for that info. It seems the compression, gain/overdrive/distortion and eq is analogue. Almost certainly explains why it sounds better than a digital modeller.
Nice!!!!!👍
There is a lot of stuff in there
Not just the best chance for it to sound good, but by the same score, the ability to sound its worst as you might be able to hear all the things it falls short on. 😉😃
Ho Joe, thanks. Do you know how to perform a factory reset to the unit?
I don't, I'm afraid!
@@JoePerkinsMusic I already found the way to factory reset the zoom 707ii. Thanks
Love the Rush thrown in there! (again!)
How's the acoustic sim on this thing, if you had to say?
I mean...I wouldn't use it routinely :P But for an effect to throw into a gig here and there...it'd be alright 👍
@@JoePerkinsMusic Awesome. Thanks, man. Believe it or not I think the zoom algorithm for acoustic sims is better than the "standard" orange boss pedal AC-2 series. I can't get a good sound out of that pedal and the clips I've heard on youtube of the various zoom stuff all sound way better. Maybe this old 707 had a much older algorithm and they've improved it a bunch on the stuff from the 2020's era.
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Is this still a good pedal to use nowdays? I found one for cheap and am thinking about buying it.
Definitely some interesting tones in it for the money!
Muito Massa.
I’m assuming that it can be used with a synth, for more interesting sounds?
Could be!
If it's got more than 11 parts in the circuit it is far to high tech for me. I could just barely handle my FZ-1 Maestro Fuzz Tone LOL
@Abs quatulate I bought my Fuzz brand new in 1964 :-) It went well with my Harmony Rocket guitar and my National amp, LOL I have cut my collection back to only the pedals I use on a more or less daily basis, ... 66. I might use 33 on a Monday but by Wednesday I have used them all.
I have them wired as 3 separate boards but all connected to one switcher. The idea as each part of a song I can have one board for the verse, another the chorus and a third for the mid 8/solo. One board is basically for clean and low gain OD's another for medium gain and a third for high gain & metal OD's Each has it's own, Comp, Gate, Delay and Reverb and a Fuzz or 2. Modulation pedals put here and there where I like them. It allows for both color and drama in a single tune. I can go from a perfect shade of grey to another or make a bombastic contrast. For example I would use a Plexi pedal on the verse to a JCM 800 like pedal on the chorus and I might follow that with a heavy octave Doom Fuzz, or a Synth pedal on the mid 8.. I write all my own tunes & literally orchestrate them. I have a Prog Metal trio. I also do all the vocals. I'm 75 ,LOL. It took years and hours a day to learn the theory and master the technique. But I love it!!!
How did you fix the input jack
Was just a solder joint that'd come loose - reflowed it & all was well
will you sell me zoom 707
My first was my avatar, an MXR Distortion +
Please can you teach me how to make a sound on sound loop with hold delay on zoom 707ii