Using all costumes for the final boss would’ve been more fitting. Because with the exception of The Grizz, every other boss against the main villains requires that episode’s costume. So using them all against Le Paradox would’ve definitely make it more climactic.
It being a time travel game, the final boss could've easily been Clockwerk. Imagine fighting him pre-mechanical form and then you defeat him, and then the end credits shows him returning as a machine, thus completing the loop.
I didn’t mind the button pressing in Thieves in Time Final Boss, but I do agree that Thieves in Time would’ve added some more depth in Final Boss where we play as Sly, Murray, and the Ancestors and we use the Costumes from different Time Periods when fighting Le Paradox
Yeah both the A and B options and then some would've been nice for Thieves in Time's finale, if the budget and time was there, it could've been something really special, it could've made the Sly fan base agree on at least one thing Thieves in Time did right, a spectacular finale.
I knew why Sly doesn’t want his ancestors can’t fight Le paradox because if they die, he will die. Sly can’t be born without his ancestors so if they were there for him with his gang, he would have told them that he does not want to see them die and shocks prefect sense in to them.
Personally haven't made it to this boss yet, as I'm yet to finish the ice Age episode. But I have known about how this boss plays out. It is interesting how Sanzaru winds up with time constraints, even when being brought on to do Spyro 3 for Reignited. Or even Sonic Boom: Shattered Crystal. Really would've liked to see what could've been, if not for the time constraints.
I used to like this game, but now... not anymore. Game felt weak to me comparing to other Sly games and three sour spots (Boss of Chapter 4, Final Boss and Cliffhanger Ending) ruined game for me. I'm sorry, but I rather play original trilogy.
After u mentioned the rail slide part it does show how big the Blimp was it would've been pretty cool if there was more of a chase room to room or something using the costumes to get through each room. But I will never forget completing that boss fight in 1 try, probably the boss fight that took 1 try😭
I completely understand why they chose the ancestors over the layered boss, it is a shame that they weren’t offered more time or funding by Sony to do both, although if I’m being honest I can’t really see the use of ALL the costumes, however I could see at the very least the archer and thief outfit
We defiantly would have had a different game but not a different end. I'd probably go with the original idea of the boss fight, using Sly's costumes in certain paterns in order to get close to Le Paradox as the Blimp falls apart. Maybe Le Paradox copies Sly and uses his own costumes to make things more difficult
When I first played the game when it first came out, that final boss didn't bother me and it still don't, but looking back on it, it could have been so much more.
I agree that the final boss was too easy, and it could have been way more better and a challenge for a satisfied finish, kinda reminds us of Penelope Lefwee boss in 3.
Sly 1, was revolutionary for its time, and was a great game. sly2, they took everything good with sly 1 and amplified it by 15. sly3, a bit of a strech of what they thought work, but still a good game. sly4, they took everything they thought we liked from sly 3 and made it into a game. My Rank, best to worst: 1) Sly 2 2) Sly 1 3) Sly 3 4) Sly 4
I personally enjoyed 3 more than 2 the gameplay was more and you had new playable characters, and also the story was fantastic with the whole building your own gang with a great ending But Sly 2 is very good as well and I can see why it's the most favorite one of the franchise Sly 1 and 4 are very fun for what they are though I definitely enjoyed the story from Sly 1
And this is one of reason many people consider Le Paradox the weakest villain compared to Clockwerk, Neyla and Dr. M What makes him more pathetic is how at end he cowardly begs for his life
And what's also worse? 100% Secret Ending doesn't help in the slightest. It hurts enjoyment out of game. And I didn't enjoying going for 100% (in terms of trophies), it's not worth it. Personally, I find "Sly Cooper 4: Thieves in Time" really weak comparing to Sly Cooper games done by Sucker Punch.
While I didn’t hate the final boss fight as much as most people I do think it would’ve been so much cooler to have a boss fight where you alternate between the different ancestors and then ultimately finishing the battle as Sly where you have to utilize the different costumes in some way, now I realize that sounds like it would probably be a little too complicated but I’m sure they could’ve found some way to work it out
No official Spyro 4 announcement whatsoever or anything of the sort during the month of September. How do you feel about it, Vivi? I’m a bit mixed on it. Next year is year of the dragon after all but I just don’t think we’re getting a new game anytime soon at all. Otherwise they would’ve announced something. All the focus seems to be going to crash team rumble right now. Season 2 comes out in November as well I believe.
I really don't like to bring bad mood, but chances of Spyro 4 is so slim right now. Since Activision is more interested in Crash right about now and since Ripto already become playable in Crash Team Rumble - we most likely gonna see out purple boy in that game in upcoming future.
@@JokerTheHedgehogX yeah I agree. Spyro has fallen in the same fate as sly cooper and jak and daxter. Unless your name is sonic the hedgehog, you don’t stand a chance in the 3D paltformer craze if you want to refer to it as that at all?
@@BrennySpain Even then Sonic had a really rough time during Meta Era (Sonic Colors - Sonic Colors Ultimate), only barely recovered on Sonic Frontiers. It also angers me is that SEGA of Japan wanted to abandon Sonic as mascot franchise in favour to other franchises (Persona and Yakuza) due to NOT been popular in Japan. And it proves how selfish companies don’t care about franchises, if they’re not profitable
Ok, so Vivi, hear me out Chapter 5, the unused mole, will replace Ms. desible In the final area, the second, Rioichi gets his cane Ms. Desible appears throughout the whole level. Not only are you aquiring the canes, but you are also caught up in a 6 phased boss fight against her For Le paradoxes fight, it will start with button mashing, then as your going through time portal, you will have to use every costume Sly has gained throughout the game then the last section could be the same
You have been so hard hitting with all your content rested to Sly Cooper am I right? I really don’t know how you do it. It literally feels like it’s never ending for a game that essentially came out 10 years ago am I right?
And it's probably painful for him to make, since Sly Cooper is one of his favorite franchises and poor Sly didn't get ANYTHING since Sly 4. Constant problem with animated movie/TV series only makes worse.
@@JokerTheHedgehogX this and jak and daxter are all but forgotten about nowadays. I love both franchises to death but at least we’ll always have the older games to go back and replay again.
I just accepted the fact that Sly Cooper may never return and simply enjoy the memories I've made, I assume VIVI does the same the only difference is that he shares his memories and theories of the franchise
@@jacobmillenbach2561 Idk, maybe they just went and showed the logo and never mentioned it again?🤷♀️ Who knows? Maybe, perhaps they'll may or may not make the 5th Sly Cooper game in the future. I'm sorry to say, but it'll be up for them to decide.🙁 You could perhaps get into contact with Sony and ask and talk to them about some questions concerning the Sly 5 game as well as the logo from a couple of years back.🤔
Hay Vivi sorry it took so long I have been busy with stuff but I just wanted to say that yeah you're right about the ending it did feel a little bit underwhelming.
I like the boss fight thought it was hard and long the button mashing made the fight cooler and epic but I do like the idea the devs had I like a longer game.
In my opinion: Sly Cooper Thieves in Time final boss Le Paradox is more easier than other bosses before, El Jefe, Toothpick, Grizz (what is most funnier and meme boss in history of Sly Cooper games), The Black Knight Penelope (what Sanzaru ruined really badly) and lady Desibel. I hqve a love hate relationship for Sly 4, I hqve a good memories of playing thegame first time wkth my Big brother's PS VITA, then I liked how amazing game looked when I was a kid but when I played Sly Cooper trilogy 2-4 Sly Cooper 2 and 3 are my favourite Sly games defienitily Sly Cooper 2 Band of Thieves what was my first played Sly Cooper game after first Sly game Sly Raccoon what is good too before I didin't like it because when I was a kid and played it I was too bad and can'tplay whole game because missions like submarine quest was too hard. Now when im an adult 21 years old I respect Sly 1 too and it's nice Sly 1 got it's finntub too like what Sly 2 3 and 4 have, 2 and 3 finndubs are best, 4 is too diffrent. By the way I have a birthday almost on same day with Sly Raccoon, Sly Raccoon relased on september 23 2002 and I was borned september 28 5 days after Sly Cooper and it's funny Sly Raccoon was my first ever game I've played on Ps2 and then Sly 2 and 3. Sly Cooper will alwaya be near of my heart Sucker Punch is one of best game studios of sony (Sansaru ruined the whole gameserie) but I wan't to learn like Sly Cooper Thieves in time too but it's hard. I still hope Sly Cooper 5 will come someday after these 10 years of Sly 4 what is hard to believe Sly 4 is that old, I feel an old... 📖💎💰🦝🐢🦛🦊🎮💙🤍🔥🔥
Matt Kraemer mentioned in a sanzaru live stream once that Le Paradox was originally going to be revealed as not an actual skunk but as a fox that painted itself. This would later lead to it being revealed that he was carmelitas ex boyfriend (WTF (what the freak)). I think LP is too ugly for Carmelita. I personally think she should end up with mugshot because they share the same political views and clearly have a mutual attraction.
Sly Cooper needs to come back now. It's been so long.
Using all costumes for the final boss would’ve been more fitting. Because with the exception of The Grizz, every other boss against the main villains requires that episode’s costume. So using them all against Le Paradox would’ve definitely make it more climactic.
Agreed !
Spyro 4 in 2024?
It being a time travel game, the final boss could've easily been Clockwerk. Imagine fighting him pre-mechanical form and then you defeat him, and then the end credits shows him returning as a machine, thus completing the loop.
I didn’t mind the button pressing in Thieves in Time Final Boss, but I do agree that Thieves in Time would’ve added some more depth in Final Boss where we play as Sly, Murray, and the Ancestors and we use the Costumes from different Time Periods when fighting Le Paradox
Yeah both the A and B options and then some would've been nice for Thieves in Time's finale, if the budget and time was there, it could've been something really special, it could've made the Sly fan base agree on at least one thing Thieves in Time did right, a spectacular finale.
Same
I knew why Sly doesn’t want his ancestors can’t fight Le paradox because if they die, he will die. Sly can’t be born without his ancestors so if they were there for him with his gang, he would have told them that he does not want to see them die and shocks prefect sense in to them.
He also has some ancestors who are also Thieves as well too
Personally haven't made it to this boss yet, as I'm yet to finish the ice Age episode. But I have known about how this boss plays out.
It is interesting how Sanzaru winds up with time constraints, even when being brought on to do Spyro 3 for Reignited. Or even Sonic Boom: Shattered Crystal.
Really would've liked to see what could've been, if not for the time constraints.
I used to like this game, but now... not anymore. Game felt weak to me comparing to other Sly games and three sour spots (Boss of Chapter 4, Final Boss and Cliffhanger Ending) ruined game for me. I'm sorry, but I rather play original trilogy.
After u mentioned the rail slide part it does show how big the Blimp was it would've been pretty cool if there was more of a chase room to room or something using the costumes to get through each room. But I will never forget completing that boss fight in 1 try, probably the boss fight that took 1 try😭
I completely understand why they chose the ancestors over the layered boss, it is a shame that they weren’t offered more time or funding by Sony to do both, although if I’m being honest I can’t really see the use of ALL the costumes, however I could see at the very least the archer and thief outfit
I heard that on Instagram Kevin Miller miss voicing as Sly Cooper and I agree 😊
He even stated that he was grateful that the Sly rumors were proven false because he was afraid that Sony moved on without him
@@elharvey5032 Oh okay.
We defiantly would have had a different game but not a different end.
I'd probably go with the original idea of the boss fight, using Sly's costumes in certain paterns in order to get close to Le Paradox as the Blimp falls apart. Maybe Le Paradox copies Sly and uses his own costumes to make things more difficult
When I first played the game when it first came out, that final boss didn't bother me and it still don't, but looking back on it, it could have been so much more.
I agree that the final boss was too easy, and it could have been way more better and a challenge for a satisfied finish, kinda reminds us of Penelope Lefwee boss in 3.
Yeah that boss is quite divisive due to the game throwing in a gameplay style that you don't get to use elsewhere in the game.
No it was hard.
Sly 1, was revolutionary for its time, and was a great game.
sly2, they took everything good with sly 1 and amplified it by 15.
sly3, a bit of a strech of what they thought work, but still a good game.
sly4, they took everything they thought we liked from sly 3 and made it into a game.
My Rank, best to worst:
1) Sly 2
2) Sly 1
3) Sly 3
4) Sly 4
I personally enjoyed 3 more than 2 the gameplay was more and you had new playable characters, and also the story was fantastic with the whole building your own gang with a great ending
But Sly 2 is very good as well and I can see why it's the most favorite one of the franchise
Sly 1 and 4 are very fun for what they are though I definitely enjoyed the story from Sly 1
Really cool video, gave me a lot if insight thank you
No problem!
I forgive them...
And this is one of reason many people consider Le Paradox the weakest villain compared to Clockwerk, Neyla and Dr. M
What makes him more pathetic is how at end he cowardly begs for his life
Neyla is a hate sink, but sure.
I wasn't really bothered by the ending fight, I was more bothered by the cliffhanger ending
And what's also worse? 100% Secret Ending doesn't help in the slightest. It hurts enjoyment out of game. And I didn't enjoying going for 100% (in terms of trophies), it's not worth it. Personally, I find "Sly Cooper 4: Thieves in Time" really weak comparing to Sly Cooper games done by Sucker Punch.
@@JokerTheHedgehogX I disagree with that, Sly 4 is my favorite of the 4 games
@@JokerTheHedgehogX nah I think sly 2 is weaker cause the prison with the spider lady was disappointing wish it was bigger and longer.
While I didn’t hate the final boss fight as much as most people I do think it would’ve been so much cooler to have a boss fight where you alternate between the different ancestors and then ultimately finishing the battle as Sly where you have to utilize the different costumes in some way, now I realize that sounds like it would probably be a little too complicated but I’m sure they could’ve found some way to work it out
No official Spyro 4 announcement whatsoever or anything of the sort during the month of September. How do you feel about it, Vivi? I’m a bit mixed on it. Next year is year of the dragon after all but I just don’t think we’re getting a new game anytime soon at all. Otherwise they would’ve announced something. All the focus seems to be going to crash team rumble right now. Season 2 comes out in November as well I believe.
I really don't like to bring bad mood, but chances of Spyro 4 is so slim right now. Since Activision is more interested in Crash right about now and since Ripto already become playable in Crash Team Rumble - we most likely gonna see out purple boy in that game in upcoming future.
@@JokerTheHedgehogX yeah I agree. Spyro has fallen in the same fate as sly cooper and jak and daxter. Unless your name is sonic the hedgehog, you don’t stand a chance in the 3D paltformer craze if you want to refer to it as that at all?
@@BrennySpain Even then Sonic had a really rough time during Meta Era (Sonic Colors - Sonic Colors Ultimate), only barely recovered on Sonic Frontiers. It also angers me is that SEGA of Japan wanted to abandon Sonic as mascot franchise in favour to other franchises (Persona and Yakuza) due to NOT been popular in Japan. And it proves how selfish companies don’t care about franchises, if they’re not profitable
@@JokerTheHedgehogX yeah of course. I really enjoy the Yakuza games overall. Pretty underrated I think.
@@BrennySpainActually, Yakuza is pretty big if you ask me.
Great vid :-D
Ok, so Vivi, hear me out
Chapter 5, the unused mole, will replace Ms. desible
In the final area, the second, Rioichi gets his cane Ms. Desible appears throughout the whole level. Not only are you aquiring the canes, but you are also caught up in a 6 phased boss fight against her
For Le paradoxes fight, it will start with button mashing, then as your going through time portal, you will have to use every costume Sly has gained throughout the game then the last section could be the same
You have been so hard hitting with all your content rested to Sly Cooper am I right? I really don’t know how you do it. It literally feels like it’s never ending for a game that essentially came out 10 years ago am I right?
And it's probably painful for him to make, since Sly Cooper is one of his favorite franchises and poor Sly didn't get ANYTHING since Sly 4. Constant problem with animated movie/TV series only makes worse.
@@JokerTheHedgehogX this and jak and daxter are all but forgotten about nowadays. I love both franchises to death but at least we’ll always have the older games to go back and replay again.
11 years in a few months
@@TerrorOfTalos no way!
I just accepted the fact that Sly Cooper may never return and simply enjoy the memories I've made, I assume VIVI does the same the only difference is that he shares his memories and theories of the franchise
Have you seen the the sly 5 rumor?
That fan-made screenshot thing?
@@VtnViviwhat really annoys the hell out of me is that Sony hasn’t even announced or even showed Easter eggs that shows that sly 5 will happen
@@jacobmillenbach2561Yeah, they made it very clear that they're not going to make a Sly 5 game.🤷♀️😕
@@ashleyyoung796 but then why did they show the sly cooper logo in the PlayStation showcase years ago
@@jacobmillenbach2561 Idk, maybe they just went and showed the logo and never mentioned it again?🤷♀️ Who knows? Maybe, perhaps they'll may or may not make the 5th Sly Cooper game in the future. I'm sorry to say, but it'll be up for them to decide.🙁 You could perhaps get into contact with Sony and ask and talk to them about some questions concerning the Sly 5 game as well as the logo from a couple of years back.🤔
Hay Vivi sorry it took so long I have been busy with stuff but I just wanted to say that yeah you're right about the ending it did feel a little bit underwhelming.
How would you rank all 4 sly cooper final bosses?
1. Dr.m
2. Le paradox
3. Clock work
4. Clock la
1. Dr M
2. Clockwerk
3. Le Paradox
4. Clock La (Neyla)
I like the boss fight thought it was hard and long the button mashing made the fight cooler and epic but I do like the idea the devs had I like a longer game.
good job vivi
As a listener of the Second Funniest Podcast, I known this for years! XD
Please let us know something for sly 5 so we aren't stuck wondering if it's coming out or not
My man I fk miss sly cooper god
In my opinion: Sly Cooper Thieves in Time final boss Le Paradox is more easier than other bosses before, El Jefe, Toothpick, Grizz (what is most funnier and meme boss in history of Sly Cooper games), The Black Knight Penelope (what Sanzaru ruined really badly) and lady Desibel. I hqve a love hate relationship for Sly 4, I hqve a good memories of playing thegame first time wkth my Big brother's PS VITA, then I liked how amazing game looked when I was a kid but when I played Sly Cooper trilogy 2-4 Sly Cooper 2 and 3 are my favourite Sly games defienitily Sly Cooper 2 Band of Thieves what was my first played Sly Cooper game after first Sly game Sly Raccoon what is good too before I didin't like it because when I was a kid and played it I was too bad and can'tplay whole game because missions like submarine quest was too hard. Now when im an adult 21 years old I respect Sly 1 too and it's nice Sly 1 got it's finntub too like what Sly 2 3 and 4 have, 2 and 3 finndubs are best, 4 is too diffrent. By the way I have a birthday almost on same day with Sly Raccoon, Sly Raccoon relased on september 23 2002 and I was borned september 28 5 days after Sly Cooper and it's funny Sly Raccoon was my first ever game I've played on Ps2 and then Sly 2 and 3. Sly Cooper will alwaya be near of my heart Sucker Punch is one of best game studios of sony (Sansaru ruined the whole gameserie) but I wan't to learn like Sly Cooper Thieves in time too but it's hard. I still hope Sly Cooper 5 will come someday after these 10 years of Sly 4 what is hard to believe Sly 4 is that old, I feel an old... 📖💎💰🦝🐢🦛🦊🎮💙🤍🔥🔥
it felt easy too and the game felt unfinished like dmc 4 the fight could have been better and i need more games still
plan c would cool i would love that plan a will awesome if we had use all the gear we unlock though the game how are you man
Sly.
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Oh um I’ll have to watch this when I’ve actually beaten Sky 4😅
Matt Kraemer mentioned in a sanzaru live stream once that Le Paradox was originally going to be revealed as not an actual skunk but as a fox that painted itself. This would later lead to it being revealed that he was carmelitas ex boyfriend (WTF (what the freak)). I think LP is too ugly for Carmelita. I personally think she should end up with mugshot because they share the same political views and clearly have a mutual attraction.
Let's be honest, even a 5 year old could've done better