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Oh goodie! I get to go buy another specialty tool to finish fixing my leaky shower. 😂 But seriously thank you for not only showing the process but detailing the tools and giving useful tips. Helped a bunch today 🙏
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Thank you so much! Great video. After three hot water cartridge changes in 6 months this finally fixed my leaky tub faucet! So worried something would go wrong (bought every possible seat and a seat wrench just in case to avoid multiple trips) but no pipes cracked or broke, nothing striped, my arm is sore because it took a lot of force to get the old one out and still had to make a second trip to the store because the seat wrench wouldn't fit all the way in - needed a thinner one. lol. But we can turn our hot water off finally! So worried something would go wrong with it being Christmas Eve 2020 lol and repairs never go easy in this 110 year old house.
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Before removing the seat. Take the valve stem to a valve shop in your town that specializes in shower valves only. They should be able to match your shower valve stem to a new one and the kit will usually come with a seat for your particular stem. Ask for an Allen wrench that fits the seat that comes with your valve stem. Use the Allen wrench to untighten the old seat which gets a better grab than L tool. Then when placing new seat in housing, use the tapered L tool - because i find the L tool works better at installing new seats, not necessarily removing an old tight seat which is easily stripped by the L tool versus an Allen wrench which matches the size of the seat you taking out and slides all the way through to get better hold of the interior of the seat when unscrewing it out.
@@jessefurlong7861 , you can replace the entire valve handle assembly. Which is not fun. Although I used shark bites, which some plumbers do not recommend, but I have yet to have a problem. I own rental properties and repairing leaky shower valves is the biggest pain in the ass.
I replaced the gasket and I think it’s still leaking. The seat looked ok, so I think I’ll start with replacing the cartridge next. Really appreciate these videos. I’m amazed at how easy some of this stuff is, especially with the specialty tools being so affordable nowadays.
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@@DIYwithMichaelBorders I did the same thing. I replaced the seats as they were bad. Put the new gaskets on the valve and tightend it. Turned on the water and let it run, then shut it off. I still have a leak and don't know where to go from here. I have the old style threaded valves with the bell top . Any suggestions?
@@MathiasJay Thanks for watching Matthew & welcome to the DIY Raptor Club. We recommend applying Teflon tape to the thread of the valve. This will give it a better seal & may solve your issue. Keep us posted, us fellow DIY’ers need to stick together! Enjoy your night. 😎👍🔧🔩
Even after looking for tips for removing the valve seats from a 45 year old shower installation and trying suggestions I found in comments here nothing was working and I was about at the end of my rope. An idea popped into my head and after having success I figured I'd pass this along as possibility when nothing else is working: a square-tipped screw extractor wrapped in a bit of masking tape. This grabs and distributes force evenly enough to break the tension with a bit of gentle persuasion with a ratchet. Many screw extractors I see on the market are round and threaded. I would avoid this type since this type could chip the brass and leave metal fragments in the valve body. The type I used was a Proto 5/16" extractor. My set is older but I think Stanley owns the name now.
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For starters, wanted to say how great this video was. Sadly after replacing both gasket and seat, my spout is still leaking. I'm unsure what else to try at this point and could really use some direction. Thank you!
@@DIYwithMichaelBorders THANK you for the swift response! I have not and will be doing this ASAP as a next step. As I do, I wanted to confirm that it was ok to screw the seats in using a flat-head screw driver since I don't have a seat wrench and the flat-head fits perfectly in the inner opening.
Thanks for this. I'm going to have to change on Tuesday. I wonder if I have to go further and do the diverter. Last couple showers when I pull the diverter for the shower it goes cold water, not the warm I set it at. It is my cold leaking but I'm going to change both sides as they are old. I'm going to take it all apart Monday and when I'm at the hardware shop I'll have the picses with me. I learned about this in matnince but 20 years ago. It was so Awsome to come see a couple videos thanks for the step by steps Very Awsome for this thanks
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Those L tools don't work on loosening a really tight seat that has been installed for a long time. May need a 5/16" hexagonal Allen wrench. I actually wedged the square part of a phillips screw driver (which is square pass the star part, and got the square part in there and untightened using a pipe wrench on the handle end of the screwdriver to undo the seat). The problem with the L tool is it is tapered and does not go all the way through a tight seat and will strip the end. The tapered L tool does not grab as well as a tool like an Allen wrench which is one size the entire length that gets a better grab because more surface area of the tool passes through and gets a better grab on the interior of a tight seat you trying to remove. Now that being said, when it comes to putting a new seat in, the tapered L tool works better because you can wedge the new seat on and get it on there without it slipping up and down along the span of an Allen wrench. The L tools are better for putting on a new seat than loosening an old tight seat that does not budge very well. For an old tight seat, need a tool (like an Allen Wrench) that fits it perfect and slides all the way in - than use pipe wrench to turn the Allen wrench.
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If the opening is stripped, a screw driver ,hammer and channel locks. I learned today that telfon tape on the seat is a good idea. These newer seat may not seal tight in original brass Gerber, l couldn't find wrench so again ,screw driver to install. Just my experience.
I have one of these old-time shower faucets in my home. At Lowe's, or Home Depot, I cannot find a replacement. They are too small for my pipes. Do you know of a place online, to get an old-time replacement? I would need a plumber to redo my whole pipe system in my shower wall. I don't want to pay $100+ per hour to have this done. I just want to have a nice brand new faucet in there that doesn't leak. I would really love to have one of the modern day, one knob faucets to control my whole bath/shower combo. Thanks for your video!
Thanks for watching and sharing this, we recommend contacting a local dealer that sells your exact brand setup. For us, we contacted a local plumbing company that’s an actual Koehler dealer that has no connection to Lowe’s and Home Depot. They were great and got us the exact replacement. Keep us posted. Let us know if you have any questions and hey if you’re into crypto trading, check out our newly launched DIY ecosystem. Toolboxtoken.com Reach out to us any time. 🧰
Which cartilage is for the hot and cold? I'm looking at two different styles, one has like holes at the top and one has no holes. Wanted to know which one is for the hot and cold.
Thanks for watching. Are you installing the exact same cartridge as what was installed before or are you installing a generic aftermarket cartridge? We recommend installing the same part number cartridges rather than aftermarket. This will allow you to match each cartridge and install them accordingly and properly. Keep us posted.
Today I changed out the inner seat for shower stem, and when I screwed in the replacement seat, it tightened and then "felt" loose again as I continued turning, then tight again. So I left it at its tightest, and proceeded to replace the stem and put everything back together. There's no sign of leaking from outside the shower wall..and no more leaking from shower head which was the initial problem. But I'm wondering (worried) if I cross threaded the seat screwing the new one in. If so, it'd be simple enough to remove & replace the seat (again). But does that mean I've ALSO damaged the threads of the VALVE into which it was screwed? If so, what's the fix for that? I'm worried water will be leaking behind the shower wall. Thoughts please?
@@shamelesschic9491 Thanks for watching. Great question and it’s likely that just replacing the seat again will help. The seat thread is much weaker than the thread it screws into and because of that…the seat thread is the weak point or the thread that will strip quicker. If you choose to move forward with replacing the previously installed seat, we recommend applying Teflon tape to thread for a better seal. Don’t over tighten. 👍🧰☕️
@@DIYwithMichaelBorders Thanks so much for responding. What a relief about the seat thread being weaker. Visions (nightmare) of tearing out shower wall can stop now. I used Rectoral seal on the seat threads. Today, reading an AI-generated answer on Amazon about the sealant, it supposedly can address cross-threading or stripped threads. But that seems like a lot to ask of the stuff. So I may go back and replace the seat again-to sleep better at night. Any other words of wisdom welcome. Thanks again!!
@@DIYwithMichaelBorders Hopefully my last question about this: If the seat was cross threaded, will it readily unscrew out? I have a seat wrench which I used to screw it in. (This happened on the Hot side and was my 1st experience changing out a seat. It wasn't until I changed the Cold side, afterward, that I saw how "nice & snug" should feel. )
@@shamelesschic9491 Good morning ☕️ It might give you a little fight however go slow as you back it out, this will alleviate the seat thread getting more jammed up with the inner valve thread. 😁👍🧰
I have a fairly old seat that is really worn down, and really tight, my seat wrench can't get enough grip on it. Any other tips? Or do I need to call someone?
Thanks for watching and reaching out to us, a lot of people will apply Teflon tape to the tip of the tool that fits inside the seat. This will add additional grip power. Keep us posted. Let us know if you have any additional questions and hey if you’re into crypto trading, check out our newly launched DIY ecosystem. toolboxtoken.com Reach out to us any time! 🧰
@@DIYwithMichaelBorders Unfortunately no dice. Looks like the seat is in a really bad state, and shredded the tape right off. The valve stem was impossibly tight and old, so I'm hardly surprised. Thanks for the advice anyway!
NOTHING is "fast and easy" when I try to do things all other men can do! I have replaced the hot water stem and/or the washer a few times in the past with good results at stopping leaks. THIS TIME, I replaced the washer, and after re-installing the stem, it was STILL leaking, so trying to remove the STEM again, I encountered huge resistance, finally getting it loose, THEN finding that the SEAT had ALSO been unscrewed/ripped out of the interior pipe. Trying to re-install the old seat and a new seat has been impossible, even with proper seat wrenches, it just won't "catch" or start holding on to the thread. I am going to call a plumber in the a.m., of COURSE I am, because that is MY style of household skills. Damn it !!!
Good morning, we appreciate you reaching out to us. You’re not alone, we have had our fair share of projects go from what should’ve only taken 30 minutes turn into several hours. We will always be here to help answer questions.
Did the job in August and it was cured. The leak is back again. Replaced the washer. The seat looks good and smooth. It was threaded into the valve body properly. It is snug, and there is no movement. I do not think I damaged valve body but do not know what to look for. In the wall, it looks fine. What are signs that the valve body has been damaged? Could inadequate pipe dope on the stem cause the leak? Any other chronic leak tips? I prefer the sealant to tape, what would be a good one?
Good morning ☕️ Sounds like you have been busy. By chance did you apply Teflon tape to the thread of the seats? That’s a must as it helps create that water-tight seal. Inadequate pipe dope can lead to leaks for sure however less likely since it’s the outer layer protector and not an internal seal. Please keep us posted.
Thanks for watching, great question. It adds a layer of protection relating to the water-tight seal. Some that didn’t apply Teflon tape ran into seat leaking. Keep us posted on your project.
@DIYwithMichaelBorders do i need to.shut off main water valve before replacing the stem. Is it optional or required? If i dont shut off water it shoud ber ok righy?
@@gobear-oy1pg Thanks for the reply, you will want to turn off the water supply shutoff valve to main home. You will only need water shut off for the time it takes to replace stem. 👍
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Awesome teaching video. I am now a subscriber. What brand is the interchangeable black and green screwdriver that you use in a number of videos? Does it also have Allen wrench inserts attachments to remove or replace the escutcheon plate on the shower valves? Thank you for your response.
Very cool & we really appreciate that. We just subscribed to your channel. This is a small tool kit that we purchased at our local AutoZone. It was less than $30.00 when purchased. Unfortunately we don’t recall the brand as it was given to a neighbor after we purchased new tools. 😎👍🔧🔩
Aren't you supposed to tighten the valve stem back with a shower valve wrench or regular wrench so it doesn't unscrew the valve stem when you turn the water on and off?
This little ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxVoi3B4CB6Oygq1-vo4OTL1M_M5JkrXif tub works perfect in our 6 x 6 shower and is easy to get in and out. Also easy to drain.
@@JohnCotter-g9p Thanks for watching. A trick we like to use is applying Teflon tape to the tip of the removal tool. This will allow the tip of the tool to get a better grip. Please keep us posted.
Good morning ☕️ any update? A hack that some plumbers will use is wrap the tip of the removal tool with Teflon tape. This will give the tip of the removal tool an added layer of grip, as well as increase the size of it just enough where I can grab a hold of the inner seat. Most importantly, work slowly and precisely to ensure nothing gets damaged. Please keep us posted.
Thanks for the video, unfortunately my seat is too stripped and trashed to be removed. Best fix I could find for that is beveled rubber washers. Not sure how long this will last but hopefully long enough for me to find a way to get this seat out or grinded smooth at least.
Thanks for watching & we appreciate you sharing this. Another trick is to wrap Teflon tape around the tip of your seat removal tool. It gives the tool a lot more grip when removing a stripped seat. Keep us posted on your project. Enjoy your night. 😎👍🔧🔩
@@DIYwithMichaelBorders Thanks, I actually tried that, cloth, and even elastic, to no avail. There's a grinder I found on Amazon I might order but that's also only a temporary fix from what i hear. Have a good one.
Good morning & welcome to the DIY Raptor Club. A trick that some use is to apply teflon tape to the tip of the seat-removal/install tool. The teflon tape adds a bit of grip to help remove striped seats. Keep us posted on your project. 😎👍🔧🔩
Those L tools don't work on loosening a really tight seat that has been installed for a long time. May need a 5/16" hexagonal Allen wrench. I actually wedged the square part of a phillips screw driver (which is square pass the star part, and got the square part in there and untightened using a pipe wrench on the handle end of the screwdriver to undo the seat). The problem with the L tool is it is tapered and does not go all the way through a tight seat and will strip the end. The tapered L tool does not grab as well as a tool like an Allen wrench which is one size the entire length that gets a better grab because more surface area of the tool passes through and gets a better grab on the interior of a tight seat you trying to remove. Now that being said, when it comes to putting a new seat in, the tapered L tool works better because you can wedge the new seat on and get it on there without it slipping up and down along the span of an Allen wrench. The L tools are better for putting on a new seat than loosening an old tight seat that does not budge very well. For an old tight stripped seat, need a tool (like a 5/16" Allen Wrench) that fits it perfect and slides all the way in - than use pipe wrench to turn the other end Allen wrench sticking out. I actually used the square end of a phillips screwdriver that fit snug inside the old stripped seat and pipe wrench and got it to move that way.
Good morning ☕️ Sounds like you have been busy. By chance did you apply Teflon tape to the thread of the seats? That’s a must as it helps create that water-tight seal. Please keep us posted.
Thanks for watching & in most cases, the best place to purchase replacement kits for older style units will be at plumbing stores that are dealers of the brand you’re looking for. In our case, our 1970s Kohler kit was purchased from a plumbing store that is a licensed Kohler dealer. Keep us posted on your project. 😎👍
Thank you very much! Mine is VERY similar to yours and had no luck at Lowe’s or Home Depot, but thanks to your advice I will be going to my local plumbing store first thing tomorrow😊
@@katgover9366 Good morning ☕️ any update? Have you ensured that the stems/cartridges for each HOT/Cold are properly secured? Is it leaking from both handles?
I did not need a special tool to remove and replace the valve seat. A standard pair of duck billed pliers will do the the job. Don't open the pliers, just insert them all the way in and into the valve seat. Turn the pliers counterclockwise and the seat will unscrew. Place the new seat on the end of the pliers, insert it, and tighten clockwise. Job finished and you will save about $16.00. The old seat had been in the faucet for over 30.
Thanks for watching & we appreciate you sharing this Luke. A trick is to wrap Teflon tape around the tip of your seat removal tool. It gives the tool a lot more grip when removing a stripped seat. Keep us posted on your project. Enjoy your day. 😎👍
Hey. I plan to replace both of mine this weekend. How do I know which valve seat is the right size? I looked for them on Lowes and they had two different sizes.
Hi Will, I'm not a pro, but if you take the stem to Lowes, there is supposedly a big book of shower parts. If you match your stem, it should tell you the proper seat. Good luck!
What's with the orange plastic ring on the cartridge? There wasn't one when I took the old one out, but there was one with the kit. What's its purpose? Do I need to use it?
Ron Metro Thanks for watching & depending on the brand of your cartridge, you may have an orange or black O’ring/gasket. Keep us posted on your project. 😎👍🔧🔩
Thanks for watching & welcome to the DIY Raptor Club. Applying Teflon tape to thread of seat is a great idea & will help create a much better water-tight-seal. Keep us posted on your project. 😎👍
Good morning Mary, that’s a great question and believe it or not…it’s the most important question before starting this project. In the event that the water dripping out of the faucet is cold, you will need to replace your cold stem. If the water is warm, you will need to replace your hot stem. Please keep us posted on your project Mary, us DIYers need to stick together!
Mike Cooper Thanks for watching & we hope the video helped. There are different sizes of Seats. A new kit for your exact valve should come with all new parts. We really enjoy making these helpful videos for our fellow DIY’ers. Many more helpful videos to come! 😀 Let us know if you have any questions. Please subscribe to the channel and turn on your UA-cam notification Bell 🛎 that would be awesome thanks again! 😎👍🔧🔩
Good morning & welcome to the DIY Raptor Club. Low pressure can be caused by a few things. 1. Clogged pipes 2. Calcified spouts, stems, diverter The most common is calcification build up. You may need to disconnect shower head to inspect inner screen. Keep us posted. 😎👍🔧🔩
@@DIYwithMichaelBorders we called a plumber and it was exactly that!, he removed the shower head opened both hot and cold and let the debris come out, I guess when I changed the stems that produced trash along with tread sealant I used, now I have amazing pressure, I shower like a king😎 thanks though
I've replaced the seats in both my hot and cold water sides. It fixed my leak for a few days then started again. When I opened it up the seat was loose, I tightened it up and all was good for a few days then once again it went back to leaking and once again the problem was the seat had gotten loose again. Anything I can do short of replacing the valves behind the wall to stop this from continuing to happen or am I going to have to rip the wall open at this point?
Thanks for watching & sharing this. By chance did you apply Teflon tape to the seats thread? This will help it not only create a water-tight seal but stay firmly screwed tight.
We replaced both the seats and the cartridges in out 3 handle tub but water is still leaking when we turn off the water. What else is the problem? Help!!
Every shower faucet repair video , including this one, either completely skips over removing the chrome tube surrounding the faucet, or the faucet just straight up doesn’t have the chrome tubing. I have the replacement stem ready to go but can’t get this damn tubing off. Therefore I cant access the stem
Thanks for watching, what’s your update? Your part might be calcified & not wanting to come apart... depending on the age of it. You may want to visit a local plumbing store other than Lowe’s or Home Depot and have your part matched so they can get you the exact same replacement part.
Thanks for watching. If your internal seat is stripped, some people will actually wrap the tip of the tool with Teflon tape and insert it, which gives it more grip. Keep us posted. 😎👍🔧🔩
@@georgeaguirre2767 Thanks for the update. Is the seat itself noticeably damaged...meaning not a perfect circle? This is more common than you think. Most will apply penetration oil to the perimeter of insert where seat is. Allow to sit for 20-30 minutes. This will allow the oil to loosen up any calcium, debris, or rust buildup that has made the insert no longer “perfect circle” shaped. Keep us posted. 😎👍🔧🔩
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Joseph C Thanks for watching. They make a specific tool to remove striped Seats however they are tough to find. Old dog trick of the trade is to wrap the tip of your current seat tool with Teflon tape. This will add additional grip and you can carefully insert it into the seat and begin carefully applying the rotational pressure. Keep us posted. Please subscribe to the channel and ring your UA-cam bell 🔔 that would be awesome thanks again! 😎👍🔧🔩
@@DIYwithMichaelBorders Appreciate it but I may have under communicated. I'm pretty sure I have stripped the part IN THE WALL that the seat or seal whatever it's called screws into. I over tightened it and now it just spins and spins..🤦🏾♂️. Thank you very much for responding.
Thanks for watching & this is more common than you think. We recommend wrapping the tip of the seat tool with Teflon tape. This will help make the tip slightly larger and give it a better grip as it is inserted inside the stripped seat. Ever so slightly and gently jolt tool in the loosen direction. Keep us posted. 😎👍🔧🔩
Thanks for watching & welcome to the DIY Raptor Club. Absolutely, let’s get this figured out. A good trick that the pros use is applying Teflon tape to the tip of the tool. This Teflon tape adds extra grip to the tip of the tool allowing it to get a much better hold of the internal portion of the stripped seat. Keep us posted, us DIYers need to stick together!!!
Good morning, we are drinking our morning coffee answering any and all questions for the DIY community. Absolutely! 😎👍 We have been there a few times. We recommend wrapping the tip of the tool with Teflon tape. This will enlarge the tip of tool as well as give the tip of the tool more grip. Please keep us posted, we DIYers need to stick together.
@@DIYwithMichaelBorders man my gut instinct was like "find a really wide rubber band" didn't even think about the tape, absolute legend gonna try that asap
Thanks for watching. Let’s get this figured out. By chance, did you apply Teflon tape to the thread of the seat prior to inserting it into valve & securing it. If not, we definitely recommend it. Let’s start there. Keep us posted. Us fellow DIY’ers need to stick together. 😎👍🔧🔩
@@DIYwithMichaelBorders thank you for the response. Yes I did put the tape on. I troubled shooted by taking it apart again CALMLY this time and realized I over tightened it and shot the rubber gasket. Thankfully I had an extra. It’s not leaking like it was it’s just barely dripping now
Thanks for watching and we appreciate you reaching out to us. We recommend applying Teflon tape to the thread of the seat itself & then carefully re-inserting it and securing it inside the valve. This will help create a watertight seal that is ever so crucial and important. Keep us posted.
Chogyal Yolmo Thanks for watching. We are here to help. We recommend wrapping Teflon tape around the tip of the seat removal tool...maybe 1-2 turns...maybe 3 if 1-2 doesn’t work. Next, reinsert tool into seat & the Teflon will help grip the stripped seat to give you a better chance of getting it out. Let’s start there. Keep us posted. Us fellow DIY’ers need to stick together! 😎👍🔧🔩
No need to over tighten the handles with your hand to shut the water off. if your washers and seats are in good shape. , you need very little effort to shut off and turn on water.
Hey all. Did everything in the video. At least I think I did. Now we have no water. I have no idea what went wrong. A contractor plans on repairing it, to the tune of $500. Be careful people.
@@willg8796 Thanks for the reply, that’s what they told us as well. Then we went three weeks of them constantly canceling on us. Thank goodness we hadn’t moved into that property yet. After three weeks of them canceling several times, I said enough was enough. I drove over there and filmed all these videos replacing the internal stems and seats. They quoted us $2000. Unfortunately on top of that quote, they were extremely rude to us... Long story short, we are glad they canceled on us so we didn’t have to pay them that money. Keep us posted, looking forward to hearing back from you.
Thanks for watching, any update? It’s likely that the internal seats will need to be replaced. Be sure to properly apply Teflon tape to thread of seats to prevent additional leaks. Please keep us posted with any questions as you work through your DIY project.
If putting new seats in old brass , my recent experience with Gerber 11 in old AF put telon tape or putty on seat frist . Trust me it wont hurt and it will help you not cuz and lose your mind taking it apart 1 2 4 5 times lmfao 🤣 😂
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Does anybody still make real two-handle valves with stems rubber washers and reel seats no cartridges like a TNS faucet that goes in a restaurant I know that can be bought I think with real seats and washers and now I saw at the Ferguson store the other day they also offer cartridges for their faucets as in not seats and washers it has the newer cartridges that won't flow any water this is why your shower isn't worth shit I want an old style faucet with real stems rubber vitam seals and seats just like an outdoor garden hose bib when I turn the knob all the way up to the top there is truly a half inch space of water flowing through that opening where is with the cartridge you get 1.6 gallons a minute regardless of whatever is happening. I want a real faucet for my shower in my bathroom preferably two handle no diverter shower only it could be mounted on the outside of the wall without any problem for me It does not need to be buried in the in the wall but everything I can find is only cartridge and I would really rather not have cartridges I want to open a wide open hole for the water to come flying through the shower head That's how you get water coming out of your shower heads coming out hard enough to put a hole in your back if you will That's what I'm looking for
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So good! Many videos show a cartridge replacement but rarely demonstrate a valve seat replacement!
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My God! There are so many videos on how to replace the stem but so few about the seat. As a DIY home owner, I thank you for this video.
This video helped my husband and I today. Thank you.
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Oh goodie! I get to go buy another specialty tool to finish fixing my leaky shower. 😂 But seriously thank you for not only showing the process but detailing the tools and giving useful tips. Helped a bunch today 🙏
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Thank you so much! Great video. After three hot water cartridge changes in 6 months this finally fixed my leaky tub faucet! So worried something would go wrong (bought every possible seat and a seat wrench just in case to avoid multiple trips) but no pipes cracked or broke, nothing striped, my arm is sore because it took a lot of force to get the old one out and still had to make a second trip to the store because the seat wrench wouldn't fit all the way in - needed a thinner one. lol. But we can turn our hot water off finally! So worried something would go wrong with it being Christmas Eve 2020 lol and repairs never go easy in this 110 year old house.
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Before removing the seat. Take the valve stem to a valve shop in your town that specializes in shower valves only. They should be able to match your shower valve stem to a new one and the kit will usually come with a seat for your particular stem. Ask for an Allen wrench that fits the seat that comes with your valve stem. Use the Allen wrench to untighten the old seat which gets a better grab than L tool. Then when placing new seat in housing, use the tapered L tool - because i find the L tool works better at installing new seats, not necessarily removing an old tight seat which is easily stripped by the L tool versus an Allen wrench which matches the size of the seat you taking out and slides all the way through to get better hold of the interior of the seat when unscrewing it out.
Thanks for watching & that’s a great idea. Definitely a beneficial move during your project.
Where in the heck does one fine a vaalve shop that specializes in shower valves? 😭
Too late I striped my seat! I was very careful using the L tool. Any advice on getting it out?
@@jessefurlong7861 , you can replace the entire valve handle assembly. Which is not fun. Although I used shark bites, which some plumbers do not recommend, but I have yet to have a problem. I own rental properties and repairing leaky shower valves is the biggest pain in the ass.
I replaced the hot and cold with no problem. But now my converter doesn’t switch from tub to shower when I turn it
I replaced the gasket and I think it’s still leaking. The seat looked ok, so I think I’ll start with replacing the cartridge next. Really appreciate these videos. I’m amazed at how easy some of this stuff is, especially with the specialty tools being so affordable nowadays.
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@@DIYwithMichaelBorders I did the same thing. I replaced the seats as they were bad. Put the new gaskets on the valve and tightend it. Turned on the water and let it run, then shut it off. I still have a leak and don't know where to go from here. I have the old style threaded valves with the bell top . Any suggestions?
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Am going to try an easy out tomorrow!
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Thank you for sharing your knowledge here on youtube to help others.
God bless you.
Thanks -- a very clear video, helped me be more relaxed. Changing the faucet seat worked well, and the leak is finally gone.
Thanks for watching & sharing this.
Even after looking for tips for removing the valve seats from a 45 year old shower installation and trying suggestions I found in comments here nothing was working and I was about at the end of my rope. An idea popped into my head and after having success I figured I'd pass this along as possibility when nothing else is working: a square-tipped screw extractor wrapped in a bit of masking tape. This grabs and distributes force evenly enough to break the tension with a bit of gentle persuasion with a ratchet.
Many screw extractors I see on the market are round and threaded. I would avoid this type since this type could chip the brass and leave metal fragments in the valve body. The type I used was a Proto 5/16" extractor. My set is older but I think Stanley owns the name now.
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excellent video. your very good at tutorials. I really appreciate this.
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For starters, wanted to say how great this video was. Sadly after replacing both gasket and seat, my spout is still leaking. I'm unsure what else to try at this point and could really use some direction. Thank you!
Thanks for watching & welcome to the DIY Raptor Club. By chance did you apply Teflon tape to the thread of the seats?
@@DIYwithMichaelBorders THANK you for the swift response! I have not and will be doing this ASAP as a next step. As I do, I wanted to confirm that it was ok to screw the seats in using a flat-head screw driver since I don't have a seat wrench and the flat-head fits perfectly in the inner opening.
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Thanks for the reply, Teflon tape will seal the thread if applied properly. No more leaks after that. 👍
Nice work. Simple and right to the point. Thanks a bunch.
Hey thanks for sharing & that’s our goal. Hope all is well. Enjoy your night Mike.
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Thanks for this. I'm going to have to change on Tuesday.
I wonder if I have to go further and do the diverter.
Last couple showers when I pull the diverter for the shower it goes cold water, not the warm I set it at.
It is my cold leaking but I'm going to change both sides as they are old. I'm going to take it all apart Monday and when I'm at the hardware shop I'll have the picses with me.
I learned about this in matnince but 20 years ago. It was so Awsome to come see a couple videos thanks for the step by steps
Very Awsome for this thanks
best video ive watched on this! Thank you!
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Very good explanation! Thank you!!
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Can I use pipe dope instead of tape on the threads?
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@@DIYwithMichaelBorders Ok. Thanks
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Those L tools don't work on loosening a really tight seat that has been installed for a long time. May need a 5/16" hexagonal Allen wrench. I actually wedged the square part of a phillips screw driver (which is square pass the star part, and got the square part in there and untightened using a pipe wrench on the handle end of the screwdriver to undo the seat). The problem with the L tool is it is tapered and does not go all the way through a tight seat and will strip the end. The tapered L tool does not grab as well as a tool like an Allen wrench which is one size the entire length that gets a better grab because more surface area of the tool passes through and gets a better grab on the interior of a tight seat you trying to remove. Now that being said, when it comes to putting a new seat in, the tapered L tool works better because you can wedge the new seat on and get it on there without it slipping up and down along the span of an Allen wrench. The L tools are better for putting on a new seat than loosening an old tight seat that does not budge very well. For an old tight seat, need a tool (like an Allen Wrench) that fits it perfect and slides all the way in - than use pipe wrench to turn the Allen wrench.
I've stripped it pretty bad. Only option now is aa plumber. Thanks for the advice ill use it on the next cold/hot seat removal.
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If the opening is stripped, a screw driver ,hammer and channel locks.
I learned today that telfon tape on the seat is a good idea.
These newer seat may not seal tight in original brass Gerber, l couldn't find wrench so again ,screw driver to install.
Just my experience.
Excellent video! Thanks for posting.
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I have one of these old-time shower faucets in my home. At Lowe's, or Home Depot, I cannot find a replacement. They are too small for my pipes. Do you know of a place online, to get an old-time replacement? I would need a plumber to redo my whole pipe system in my shower wall. I don't want to pay $100+ per hour to have this done. I just want to have a nice brand new faucet in there that doesn't leak. I would really love to have one of the modern day, one knob faucets to control my whole bath/shower combo. Thanks for your video!
Thanks for watching and sharing this, we recommend contacting a local dealer that sells your exact brand setup.
For us, we contacted a local plumbing company that’s an actual Koehler dealer that has no connection to Lowe’s and Home Depot. They were great and got us the exact replacement. Keep us posted.
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Which cartilage is for the hot and cold?
I'm looking at two different styles, one has like holes at the top and one has no holes.
Wanted to know which one is for the hot and cold.
Thanks for watching. Are you installing the exact same cartridge as what was installed before or are you installing a generic aftermarket cartridge?
We recommend installing the same part number cartridges rather than aftermarket. This will allow you to match each cartridge and install them accordingly and properly. Keep us posted.
Today I changed out the inner seat for shower stem, and when I screwed in the replacement seat, it tightened and then "felt" loose again as I continued turning, then tight again. So I left it at its tightest, and proceeded to replace the stem and put everything back together. There's no sign of leaking from outside the shower wall..and no more leaking from shower head which was the initial problem. But I'm wondering (worried) if I cross threaded the seat screwing the new one in. If so, it'd be simple enough to remove & replace the seat (again). But does that mean I've ALSO damaged the threads of the VALVE into which it was screwed? If so, what's the fix for that? I'm worried water will be leaking behind the shower wall. Thoughts please?
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Thanks for watching. Great question and it’s likely that just replacing the seat again will help.
The seat thread is much weaker than the thread it screws into and because of that…the seat thread is the weak point or the thread that will strip quicker.
If you choose to move forward with replacing the previously installed seat, we recommend applying Teflon tape to thread for a better seal.
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@@DIYwithMichaelBorders Thanks so much for responding. What a relief about the seat thread being weaker. Visions (nightmare) of tearing out shower wall can stop now. I used Rectoral seal on the seat threads. Today, reading an AI-generated answer on Amazon about the sealant, it supposedly can address cross-threading or stripped threads. But that seems like a lot to ask of the stuff. So I may go back and replace the seat again-to sleep better at night. Any other words of wisdom welcome. Thanks again!!
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@@DIYwithMichaelBorders Hopefully my last question about this: If the seat was cross threaded, will it readily unscrew out? I have a seat wrench which I used to screw it in. (This happened on the Hot side and was my 1st experience changing out a seat. It wasn't until I changed the Cold side, afterward, that I saw how "nice & snug" should feel. )
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It might give you a little fight however go slow as you back it out, this will alleviate the seat thread getting more jammed up with the inner valve thread.
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I have a fairly old seat that is really worn down, and really tight, my seat wrench can't get enough grip on it. Any other tips? Or do I need to call someone?
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@@DIYwithMichaelBorders Unfortunately no dice. Looks like the seat is in a really bad state, and shredded the tape right off. The valve stem was impossibly tight and old, so I'm hardly surprised. Thanks for the advice anyway!
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We appreciate the update. A plumber may apply heat to the seat to loosen up the grip. Keep us posted.
NOTHING is "fast and easy" when I try to do things all other men can do! I have replaced the hot water stem and/or the washer a few times in the past with good results at stopping leaks. THIS TIME, I replaced the washer, and after re-installing the stem, it was STILL leaking, so trying to remove the STEM again, I encountered huge resistance, finally getting it loose, THEN finding that the SEAT had ALSO been unscrewed/ripped out of the interior pipe. Trying to re-install the old seat and a new seat has been impossible, even with proper seat wrenches, it just won't "catch" or start holding on to the thread. I am going to call a plumber in the a.m., of COURSE I am, because that is MY style of household skills. Damn it !!!
Good morning, we appreciate you reaching out to us. You’re not alone, we have had our fair share of projects go from what should’ve only taken 30 minutes turn into several hours.
We will always be here to help answer questions.
Did the job in August and it was cured. The leak is back again. Replaced the washer. The seat looks good and smooth. It was threaded into the valve body properly. It is snug, and there is no movement. I do not think I damaged valve body but do not know what to look for. In the wall, it looks fine. What are signs that the valve body has been damaged? Could inadequate pipe dope on the stem cause the leak? Any other chronic leak tips? I prefer the sealant to tape, what would be a good one?
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Sounds like you have been busy. By chance did you apply Teflon tape to the thread of the seats?
That’s a must as it helps create that water-tight seal. Inadequate pipe dope can lead to leaks for sure however less likely since it’s the outer layer protector and not an internal seal.
Please keep us posted.
whats the purpose of teflon on the seat? is it requireed?
Thanks for watching, great question. It adds a layer of protection relating to the water-tight seal.
Some that didn’t apply Teflon tape ran into seat leaking. Keep us posted on your project.
@DIYwithMichaelBorders do i need to.shut off main water valve before replacing the stem. Is it optional or required? If i dont shut off water it shoud ber ok righy?
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Thanks for the reply, you will want to turn off the water supply shutoff valve to main home.
You will only need water shut off for the time it takes to replace stem. 👍
@@DIYwithMichaelBorders i didht shut off main waterr.. the water did not flow out
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Do I have to tape the seat threads or will it work anyway?
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We recommend applying Teflon tape to thread which will help in creating a more reliable and long-term seam. Keep us posted on your progress, and let us know if you have any additional questions.
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Awesome video the best I've see, thanks
Thanks Margaret, we appreciate that. Hope all is well & thanks for watching.
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Awesome teaching video. I am now a subscriber. What brand is the interchangeable black and green screwdriver that you use in a number of videos? Does it also have Allen wrench inserts attachments to remove or replace the escutcheon plate on the shower valves? Thank you for your response.
Very cool & we really appreciate that. We just subscribed to your channel. This is a small tool kit that we purchased at our local AutoZone. It was less than $30.00 when purchased. Unfortunately we don’t recall the brand as it was given to a neighbor after we purchased new tools.
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I couldn't get an answer from HD clerk. Are there different sizes of the seat? HD only had 2 different sizes, small and larger.
Aren't you supposed to tighten the valve stem back with a shower valve wrench or regular wrench so it doesn't unscrew the valve stem when you turn the water on and off?
Thanks for watching, you can do that. With our setup, it’s not required.
Thankyou! Best video on here!
Thanks for watching & sharing this.
This little ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxVoi3B4CB6Oygq1-vo4OTL1M_M5JkrXif tub works perfect in our 6 x 6 shower and is easy to get in and out. Also easy to drain.
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I have a pfister diverter and the hot water is working on the spout, but not enough hot water to shower head. What can cause that?
How do you get this. Out if stripped?
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Thanks for watching. A trick we like to use is applying Teflon tape to the tip of the removal tool.
This will allow the tip of the tool to get a better grip. Please keep us posted.
I'm going to try an easy out tomorrow!
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OK, so what happens if you accidentally did strip the inner hole of the seat. Yes, it will be tough to get out but how?
Good morning ☕️ any update? A hack that some plumbers will use is wrap the tip of the removal tool with Teflon tape.
This will give the tip of the removal tool an added layer of grip, as well as increase the size of it just enough where I can grab a hold of the inner seat.
Most importantly, work slowly and precisely to ensure nothing gets damaged. Please keep us posted.
Thanks for the video, unfortunately my seat is too stripped and trashed to be removed.
Best fix I could find for that is beveled rubber washers. Not sure how long this will last but hopefully long enough for me to find a way to get this seat out or grinded smooth at least.
Thanks for watching & we appreciate you sharing this. Another trick is to wrap Teflon tape around the tip of your seat removal tool.
It gives the tool a lot more grip when removing a stripped seat. Keep us posted on your project.
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@@DIYwithMichaelBorders Thanks, I actually tried that, cloth, and even elastic, to no avail. There's a grinder I found on Amazon I might order but that's also only a temporary fix from what i hear. Have a good one.
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Thanks for the reply & keep us posted.
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@@ultravires385 I had the same issue, get a small hack saw and make a few groves inside the seat so the tool can grab on to something.
How do you get the cold seat to come out if it's badly stripped?
Good morning & welcome to the DIY Raptor Club. A trick that some use is to apply teflon tape to the tip of the seat-removal/install tool.
The teflon tape adds a bit of grip to help remove striped seats. Keep us posted on your project.
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Those L tools don't work on loosening a really tight seat that has been installed for a long time. May need a 5/16" hexagonal Allen wrench. I actually wedged the square part of a phillips screw driver (which is square pass the star part, and got the square part in there and untightened using a pipe wrench on the handle end of the screwdriver to undo the seat). The problem with the L tool is it is tapered and does not go all the way through a tight seat and will strip the end. The tapered L tool does not grab as well as a tool like an Allen wrench which is one size the entire length that gets a better grab because more surface area of the tool passes through and gets a better grab on the interior of a tight seat you trying to remove. Now that being said, when it comes to putting a new seat in, the tapered L tool works better because you can wedge the new seat on and get it on there without it slipping up and down along the span of an Allen wrench. The L tools are better for putting on a new seat than loosening an old tight seat that does not budge very well. For an old tight stripped seat, need a tool (like a 5/16" Allen Wrench) that fits it perfect and slides all the way in - than use pipe wrench to turn the other end Allen wrench sticking out. I actually used the square end of a phillips screwdriver that fit snug inside the old stripped seat and pipe wrench and got it to move that way.
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We appreciate you sharing this Patrick, you Rock! Hope all is well.
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Great video... I just thought it would cover repair *and* replace.
(I definitely wish our seats were of the newer, replaceable variety!)
Thanks for watching & sharing this Jake.
What if I took everything thing out and there is no spring or seat?
Thanks for watching tiffany, do you see a threaded design cut machined into valve that allows for a seat to be screwed in?
Nice tutorial!
Thanks for watching & sharing this. Let us know if you have any questions.
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Fantastic!!! You saved me!!
Man I replace all new on both side and I still get a leat I destroyed the rubber on the valve so went and replace it and still leaks I dont get it.
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Sounds like you have been busy. By chance did you apply Teflon tape to the thread of the seats?
That’s a must as it helps create that water-tight seal. Please keep us posted.
Where can I buy the kit with all the parts needed to be replaced?
Thanks for watching & in most cases, the best place to purchase replacement kits for older style units will be at plumbing stores that are dealers of the brand you’re looking for.
In our case, our 1970s Kohler kit was purchased from a plumbing store that is a licensed Kohler dealer.
Keep us posted on your project. 😎👍
Thank you very much! Mine is VERY similar to yours and had no luck at Lowe’s or Home Depot, but thanks to your advice I will be going to my local plumbing store first thing tomorrow😊
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thank you! seems simple.
You are very welcome, keep us posted on your project. Enjoy your weekend.
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What if you do all this but now it leaks from the handles??
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Good morning ☕️ any update?
Have you ensured that the stems/cartridges for each HOT/Cold are properly secured?
Is it leaking from both handles?
I did not need a special tool to remove and replace the valve seat. A standard pair of duck billed pliers will do the the job. Don't open the pliers, just insert them all the way in and into the valve seat. Turn the pliers counterclockwise and the seat will unscrew. Place the new seat on the end of the pliers, insert it, and tighten clockwise. Job finished and you will save about $16.00. The old seat had been in the faucet for over 30.
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How did you get the handle off? It doesn't come off in my case. You completely skipped that part!
If the seat is stripped out already; (like in my case); do you have to replace the entire rough in valve or is there a trick I can use to get it out?
Thanks for watching & we appreciate you sharing this Luke. A trick is to wrap Teflon tape around the tip of your seat removal tool.
It gives the tool a lot more grip when removing a stripped seat. Keep us posted on your project.
Enjoy your day. 😎👍
Hey. I plan to replace both of mine this weekend.
How do I know which valve seat is the right size? I looked for them on Lowes and they had two different sizes.
Hi Will, I'm not a pro, but if you take the stem to Lowes, there is supposedly a big book of shower parts. If you match your stem, it should tell you the proper seat. Good luck!
What's with the orange plastic ring on the cartridge? There wasn't one when I took the old one out, but there was one with the kit. What's its purpose? Do I need to use it?
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Thanks for watching & depending on the brand of your cartridge, you may have an orange or black O’ring/gasket. Keep us posted on your project.
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what about a Teflon seat??
Thanks for watching & welcome to the DIY Raptor Club. Applying Teflon tape to thread of seat is a great idea & will help create a much better water-tight-seal.
Keep us posted on your project. 😎👍
This is probably a dumb question, but how do you know if it’s the hot or cold faucet that’s causing the drip?
Good morning Mary, that’s a great question and believe it or not…it’s the most important question before starting this project.
In the event that the water dripping out of the faucet is cold, you will need to replace your cold stem.
If the water is warm, you will need to replace your hot stem.
Please keep us posted on your project Mary, us DIYers need to stick together!
could you tell me where to get those tools? Thanks.
Thanks for watching. We purchased tools from LOWES & Home Depot. Hope this helps.
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Please put the name of the tool under the video description
Are the seats a standard size?
Mike Cooper
Thanks for watching & we hope the video helped. There are different sizes of Seats. A new kit for your exact valve should come with all new parts.
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question I'm having low hot water pressure, I changed the diverter stem and didn't fix it, do you think changing the seats will help?
Good morning & welcome to the DIY Raptor Club. Low pressure can be caused by a few things.
1. Clogged pipes
2. Calcified spouts, stems, diverter
The most common is calcification build up. You may need to disconnect shower head to inspect inner screen. Keep us posted.
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@@DIYwithMichaelBorders we called a plumber and it was exactly that!, he removed the shower head opened both hot and cold and let the debris come out, I guess when I changed the stems that produced trash along with tread sealant I used, now I have amazing pressure, I shower like a king😎 thanks though
@@danmartin6225
Awesome Awesome & thanks for sharing this. Hopefully many stress free days ahead for you Daniel.
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Any Teflon tape on the cartridge thread?
Thanks for watching, Teflon tape on cartridge may definitely help. Please keep us posted on your DIY project.
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@@DIYwithMichaelBorders thanks no more leaky faucet. There was a smaller nut that tightens on a rubber washer that was loose to. 👍🏼
@@gorutra
Awesome Awesome, great job! It’s a great feeling accomplishing your DIY project, thanks for sharing your update.
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How do I replace the seat washer
I've replaced the seats in both my hot and cold water sides. It fixed my leak for a few days then started again. When I opened it up the seat was loose, I tightened it up and all was good for a few days then once again it went back to leaking and once again the problem was the seat had gotten loose again. Anything I can do short of replacing the valves behind the wall to stop this from continuing to happen or am I going to have to rip the wall open at this point?
Thanks for watching & sharing this. By chance did you apply Teflon tape to the seats thread? This will help it not only create a water-tight seal but stay firmly screwed tight.
I don’t see the o ring we saw by the seat before it was pulled out.
We replaced both the seats and the cartridges in out 3 handle tub but water is still leaking when we turn off the water. What else is the problem? Help!!
Every shower faucet repair video , including this one, either completely skips over removing the chrome tube surrounding the faucet, or the faucet just straight up doesn’t have the chrome tubing. I have the replacement stem ready to go but can’t get this damn tubing off. Therefore I cant access the stem
Thanks for watching, what’s your update? Your part might be calcified & not wanting to come apart... depending on the age of it. You may want to visit a local plumbing store other than Lowe’s or Home Depot and have your part matched so they can get you the exact same replacement part.
I don't know what's up with my seat, one came out perfectly but the other one is stuck somehow. Like it turns when i loosen it but it won't come out.
Thanks for watching. If your internal seat is stripped, some people will actually wrap the tip of the tool with Teflon tape and insert it, which gives it more grip. Keep us posted.
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@@DIYwithMichaelBorders thanks for the tip, i tried it but now the seat just keeps turning in there and won't come out.
@@georgeaguirre2767
Thanks for the update. Is the seat itself noticeably damaged...meaning not a perfect circle? This is more common than you think. Most will apply penetration oil to the perimeter of insert where seat is. Allow to sit for 20-30 minutes. This will allow the oil to loosen up any calcium, debris, or rust buildup that has made the insert no longer “perfect circle” shaped. Keep us posted.
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awesome video man
Shawn Bengtson
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Thanks...Big Help!
SnapperKC
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Good video my Friend, thanks.
We appreciate that Jaime, thanks for sharing this. Enjoy your night!
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So I think I stripped the part in the wall that the seat screws into..... what now?
Joseph C
Thanks for watching. They make a specific tool to remove striped Seats however they are tough to find.
Old dog trick of the trade is to wrap the tip of your current seat tool with Teflon tape. This will add additional grip and you can carefully insert it into the seat and begin carefully applying the rotational pressure.
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@@DIYwithMichaelBorders Appreciate it but I may have under communicated. I'm pretty sure I have stripped the part IN THE WALL that the seat or seal whatever it's called screws into. I over tightened it and now it just spins and spins..🤦🏾♂️. Thank you very much for responding.
@@DIYwithMichaelBorders I found a bloke using something called a Hydroseal Tap Seat Replacement Kit... I'll keep y'all posted! 🙏🏾
Joseph C
Thanks for the update & please keep us posted thanks again Joseph.
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dumbass.
What do I do if it’s stripped 😓😪
Thanks for watching & this is more common than you think. We recommend wrapping the tip of the seat tool with Teflon tape. This will help make the tip slightly larger and give it a better grip as it is inserted inside the stripped seat. Ever so slightly and gently jolt tool in the loosen direction. Keep us posted.
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@@DIYwithMichaelBorders I watched a diff video which said to tap an appropriate screwdriver 🪛 in there and IT ACTUALLY WORKED! 🤗😁😆
@@bchappy5460
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I striped my seat! It was pretty damaged, and now it's stuck! Any advice on how to get it out?
Thanks for watching & welcome to the DIY Raptor Club. Absolutely, let’s get this figured out.
A good trick that the pros use is applying Teflon tape to the tip of the tool. This Teflon tape adds extra grip to the tip of the tool allowing it to get a much better hold of the internal portion of the stripped seat.
Keep us posted, us DIYers need to stick together!!!
heh so lets say someone made an oops and did accidentally strip their seat, any tips?
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We have been there a few times. We recommend wrapping the tip of the tool with Teflon tape. This will enlarge the tip of tool as well as give the tip of the tool more grip.
Please keep us posted, we DIYers need to stick together.
@@DIYwithMichaelBorders man my gut instinct was like "find a really wide rubber band" didn't even think about the tape, absolute legend gonna try that asap
@@MrRevCytosis
Thanks for the reply, looking forward to hearing from you you.
I replaced both and mine is still leaking. I’m about to burn it down. Help
Thanks for watching. Let’s get this figured out. By chance, did you apply Teflon tape to the thread of the seat prior to inserting it into valve & securing it. If not, we definitely recommend it. Let’s start there. Keep us posted. Us fellow DIY’ers need to stick together.
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@@DIYwithMichaelBorders thank you for the response. Yes I did put the tape on. I troubled shooted by taking it apart again CALMLY this time and realized I over tightened it and shot the rubber gasket. Thankfully I had an extra. It’s not leaking like it was it’s just barely dripping now
@@dontworryaboutit7285
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Thank you so much!
I replaced the seat and it’s still leaking. What should I do now?
Thanks for watching and we appreciate you reaching out to us. We recommend applying Teflon tape to the thread of the seat itself & then carefully re-inserting it and securing it inside the valve. This will help create a watertight seal that is ever so crucial and important. Keep us posted.
How to get out the old seat if it's stripped?
Chogyal Yolmo
Thanks for watching. We are here to help. We recommend wrapping Teflon tape around the tip of the seat removal tool...maybe 1-2 turns...maybe 3 if 1-2 doesn’t work.
Next, reinsert tool into seat & the Teflon will help grip the stripped seat to give you a better chance of getting it out.
Let’s start there. Keep us posted. Us fellow DIY’ers need to stick together!
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No need to over tighten the handles with your hand to shut the water off. if your washers and seats are in good shape. , you need very little effort to shut off and turn on water.
tom miller
Thanks for watching & sharing your advice tom, we appreciate it.
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Hey all. Did everything in the video. At least I think I did. Now we have no water. I have no idea what went wrong. A contractor plans on repairing it, to the tune of $500.
Be careful people.
Thanks for watching & we appreciate you reaching out to us. Have you turned main water shutoff valve to home back on?
@@DIYwithMichaelBorders Yes we have. The Roto Rooter guy says he has to bust the entire wall down to replace everything.
@@willg8796
Thanks for the reply, that’s what they told us as well. Then we went three weeks of them constantly canceling on us. Thank goodness we hadn’t moved into that property yet.
After three weeks of them canceling several times, I said enough was enough. I drove over there and filmed all these videos replacing the internal stems and seats.
They quoted us $2000. Unfortunately on top of that quote, they were extremely rude to us... Long story short, we are glad they canceled on us so we didn’t have to pay them that money.
Keep us posted, looking forward to hearing back from you.
I already put the shower stem and it is leaking
Thanks for watching, any update? It’s likely that the internal seats will need to be replaced. Be sure to properly apply Teflon tape to thread of seats to prevent additional leaks.
Please keep us posted with any questions as you work through your DIY project.
I forgot to put Teflon tape
@@ceelocc1
Thanks for watching, some people choose to not apply Teflon tape.
Now that everything is put back together, are you experiencing any leaks?
Suh your yiy good
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I have wasted so many days trying to fix mine. 😭 I think it's stripped.
If putting new seats in old brass , my recent experience with Gerber 11 in old AF put telon tape or putty on seat frist . Trust me it wont hurt and it will help you not cuz and lose your mind taking it apart 1 2 4 5 times lmfao 🤣 😂
Thanks for watching, applying Teflon tape to seat thread is a great idea.
@@DIYwithMichaelBorders the only video was norm abrams ,using sealant?
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The hot water did not come back on 🤨
Thanks for watching, what’s your update? Is water flowing?
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Does anybody still make real two-handle valves with stems rubber washers and reel seats no cartridges like a TNS faucet that goes in a restaurant I know that can be bought I think with real seats and washers and now I saw at the Ferguson store the other day they also offer cartridges for their faucets as in not seats and washers it has the newer cartridges that won't flow any water this is why your shower isn't worth shit I want an old style faucet with real stems rubber vitam seals and seats just like an outdoor garden hose bib when I turn the knob all the way up to the top there is truly a half inch space of water flowing through that opening where is with the cartridge you get 1.6 gallons a minute regardless of whatever is happening. I want a real faucet for my shower in my bathroom preferably two handle no diverter shower only it could be mounted on the outside of the wall without any problem for me It does not need to be buried in the in the wall but everything I can find is only cartridge and I would really rather not have cartridges I want to open a wide open hole for the water to come flying through the shower head That's how you get water coming out of your shower heads coming out hard enough to put a hole in your back if you will That's what I'm looking for
@@tombukt2
Thanks for watching and it’s absolutely still an option. We really appreciate you taking the time to write us.
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This video is not helpful if the seat is stripped out.
Don’t tape your seat, just dope or lubricate
Thanks for watching. 👍
@@DIYwithMichaelBorders great video!
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diverter valve is bad also
Fast and easy unless it's stripped :-(
poor video
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What if you strip the seat and can’t get it out?
Thanks for watching, you can actually apply Teflon tape to the tip of the seat removal tool…which will give it a bit of extra gripping power.