Renegade (NES) Playthrough - NintendoComplete

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  • @razor198042
    @razor198042 2 роки тому +40

    Love how you can punch them even when they’re down, revolutionary design for the time

  • @andy68916
    @andy68916 2 роки тому +95

    Love how games back then were 15 minutes long yet impossible to beat

    • @niceguy999918
      @niceguy999918 2 роки тому

      This game was easy. The only thing that gave me trouble was the fat ladies.

    • @starwarssatan5588
      @starwarssatan5588 Рік тому +1

      I beat it

    • @IronMan_thno
      @IronMan_thno Рік тому +3

      🤣😅🤣this comment is so legit

    • @Domarius64
      @Domarius64 Рік тому +2

      It's true, it's to do with how much resources they could store, so the difficulty was proportionate to making sure the playtime is hours and not minutes. And that's fine, that's a certain style of game. Dark Souls brought back the kind of game you do not complete in one sitting :)

    • @Bloodreign1
      @Bloodreign1 Рік тому +2

      The only real hard part of the game is the last stage, choosing the left door got you into the maze leading up to the fight against Sabu, the door on the right went BACK to stage 3, and you have to do it all over again.
      That maze though, and remembering where to go, and having to fight two Kim's (the US name for the big woman boss, can't remember her name in the Japanese version), fighting two of these big ass women was a pain in the ass.

  • @wordsshackles441
    @wordsshackles441 Рік тому +20

    Destroyed my thumb abusing that A+B dragon kick move. One of the best games of my childhood.

  • @NintendoComplete
    @NintendoComplete  6 років тому +95

    It might be super old, but Renegade is the granddaddy of some of the biggest arcade classics of the 80s and 90s, and it's still a blast to play.

    • @MFields2178
      @MFields2178 6 років тому +7

      Super old? Gee thanks. I was eight when this game came out and remember it like it was yesterday. Although I have a lot of gray hairs now.

    • @NintendoComplete
      @NintendoComplete  6 років тому +7

      @@MFields2178 Hahaha well I was six when it came out, and I've noticed the random light colored hair growing in on occasion. Oh well, new or old, young or old, it doesn't mean much. Keep a sense of humor, and you'll still be young at 60, right? :D

    • @MFields2178
      @MFields2178 6 років тому +3

      NintendoComplete haha unfortunately I have a medical condition that won’t let me get to sixty so I’m getting that old now. It’s cool though. I don’t want to get old anyway.

    • @harryhapsh8214
      @harryhapsh8214 6 років тому +2

      NintendoComplete it was also the first beat'em up ever made

    • @JohnDoe-gk7ok
      @JohnDoe-gk7ok 3 роки тому

      @@oldstylegaming4655 I think this came out in Japan before Double Dragon

  • @80sfreak42
    @80sfreak42 2 роки тому +17

    In 1988 I used to wake up to get ready for school..I was probably 6 or so and my brother would already be awake playing Nintendo before school...this game was one of the best

    • @johnbarnaul4959
      @johnbarnaul4959 24 дні тому

      А мой младший брат с утра в Contra )

  • @kristophsams5036
    @kristophsams5036 3 роки тому +12

    Loved how you went through all that hell to get to the final boss, and Sabu would just blast you away in one shot. So frustrating yet so fun.

    • @Bloodreign1
      @Bloodreign1 Рік тому

      Man had a gun, no way would you just get up from a gunshot, especially aimed at your head. This game showed some realism there.

  • @ontheruntips7242
    @ontheruntips7242 12 годин тому

    It's probably one of the best beat'em ups on NES and definitely had a huge influence on future games of the genre. One of my personal all-time favorites.

  • @richardbond258
    @richardbond258 5 років тому +7

    I had this game as well as Double Dragon 2. Both games were great.

  • @dave6653
    @dave6653 Рік тому +8

    6:03 when my mom asked me to clean the dishes but I played NES games instead.

  • @Victory-in-YAHUSHA
    @Victory-in-YAHUSHA 2 роки тому +12

    The greatest ending of any video game

  • @LPetal86
    @LPetal86 6 років тому +10

    Technos has always impressed me because even with their earliest offering here you can tell they put a lot of time and effort into it, like the overall presentation. A real shame stuff from the original JP version was cut from this!

    • @AngryCalvin
      @AngryCalvin 2 роки тому +3

      Technos was probably my favorite game developer in the 8-bit era. This game is very overlooked.

  • @MFields2178
    @MFields2178 6 років тому +7

    I still have fun playing this game to this day. Yes I hated that maze building at the end. I remember as a kid I thought those women you fight that hit you with their purse looked like my next door neighbor and the big woman that slaps you around looked like my mom. We were building a clubhouse in the woods that summer and my friend wanted to be like the last boss Sabu. That boss gave me anxiety with his one shot kills. Great game! Too bad they don’t make games like this anymore.

  • @bryantworthing2215
    @bryantworthing2215 4 роки тому +3

    Dawg, thank you for all of these videos on these classic games!

  • @VahanNisanian
    @VahanNisanian 6 років тому +11

    I like how they took the opening theme from the Arcade game, and turned it into the ending theme, but it works perfectly this way. It's like you've successfully accomplished a seemingly-impossible task, and triumphed over everything.

    • @johneygd
      @johneygd 2 роки тому +1

      Ahaa now i understand why the ending tune sounds sooo dramatic.

  • @truemperahzentertainment6133
    @truemperahzentertainment6133 Рік тому +1

    Kunio Kun original version that started it all Renegade 1. Part 2 was called Target: Renegade on the NES.

  • @mazinz2
    @mazinz2 5 років тому +9

    A deli down the road from me had the actual arcade game shortly after it came out here in the US. Used to play it quite a bit, but it was super hard and I did not get that far. Loved the fact the characters would sometimes yell at you "get lost punk". I was very excited when I learned it was coming out for the NES. That excitement turned to displeasure when I saw how bad the NES port ended up being. Still, its Renegade and I will always hold a special place for it. Thanks for this play through

  • @Dorelaxen
    @Dorelaxen 6 років тому +12

    Ahh, the old beat 'em up convention of tossing guys in the water/bottomless pit to finish them quickly. Renegade/Kunio Kun really did establish all the tropes to follow. The maze level can suck it, though. Never was able to get past that part as a kid. I also like how immediately after you beat the last boss, it's straight to the credits. No ending, no "Yeah, I WAS tough enough for you, BITCH!" or anything. Just...done.

    • @JFJD
      @JFJD 3 роки тому +3

      I’m pretty sure “Mr. K” is supposed to be Kunio/the guy you’re playing as, so it’d be more like “Nobody’s tough as me, bitches!”

    • @gr8gmr
      @gr8gmr Рік тому

      The original Japanese version (featuring Kunio and all the other characters in their original designs) does have an ending, though.

  • @johncel1950
    @johncel1950 Рік тому +1

    Love the fact that Mr Renegade actually traveled in the train

  • @rigopeligro
    @rigopeligro Рік тому +2

    This game has the best soundtrack around!!

  • @philliestuntz7214
    @philliestuntz7214 4 роки тому +6

    This and River City Ransom were great

  • @Excard0n
    @Excard0n 4 роки тому +11

    6:00 Didn't know Rosanne Barr was in this game.

    • @richieharris3626
      @richieharris3626 3 роки тому +1

      Very funny I through that too. It her name is Kim she is a pain in the ass.

  • @proudkiwi7641
    @proudkiwi7641 3 роки тому +3

    Baha back when everyone had sega megadrives and super Nintendo, my parents bought me an 84 commodore and I would play this game constantly.

  • @animatrix1490
    @animatrix1490 3 роки тому +2

    Something about the way the enemies and player character do grabs and throws makes it feel like a really down-n-dirty street fight. Maybe it's the animation--they feel like heavy bodies getting flung around and beaten on. Super cool! (y-you know, for a beatemup :P)

  • @Hickspy_
    @Hickspy_ 2 роки тому +1

    Never could beat that game as a kid. Now, watching this and seeing what the ending was, I think I would've been pissed off had I devoted the time to actually get good enough to do so.

  • @dragonfireny
    @dragonfireny 6 років тому +6

    The sad story of a man. Losing his mind and having to fight all of his identical siblings to the death at the subway station

  • @Anonymous-qg9xx
    @Anonymous-qg9xx 4 роки тому +4

    Motorcycles!!! Reminds me of Grease 2!!!! The punks could be the scorpians. The ladies in the next level could be pink ladies!!!

  • @nerdcouncil
    @nerdcouncil 4 роки тому +3

    Wow man those developers showed no mercy by removing an ending!!

  • @bigefanning5211
    @bigefanning5211 3 місяці тому

    One of my favorite NES games. So fun.

  • @jsnorthskyfts
    @jsnorthskyfts 2 роки тому +1

    This is a legit mashup of Double Dragon & River City Ransom

  • @therealseanw.stewart2071
    @therealseanw.stewart2071 6 років тому +4

    Double Dragon meets River City Random! ^-^ ...Or at least, that's what the art style reminds me of.
    What a simplistic beat-em-up! It's easy to see that it is one of the first to pioneer the genre and be VASTLY improved upon in the decades that follow! It's interesting to see an underappreciated title with quite a legacy that most people probably don't realize. I also love how it just immediately cuts to the end credits after you kill the last guy. lol

    • @hurricanemixer
      @hurricanemixer 6 років тому

      Given the moveset, it's a lot less simplistic than many of the beat 'em ups that followed.

  • @VahanNisanian
    @VahanNisanian 6 років тому +1

    And thanks to British developer Imagine Software, it began a third franchise in the "Renegade" trilogy. The other two sequels were "Target Renegade" and "Renegade III: The Final Chapter". And when they called the third game in the trilogy "The Final Chapter", they meant it.

  • @datnorfsideoflongbeach
    @datnorfsideoflongbeach 6 років тому +2

    One of my favorite all time nes game

  • @sirchi8731
    @sirchi8731 Рік тому +1

    The backgrounds are great

  • @rodrigost.3324
    @rodrigost.3324 Рік тому +1

    GREAT GAME ! I ve heard that RENEGADE was inspired by the great classic movie THE WARRIORS

    • @blazers4life994
      @blazers4life994 11 місяців тому

      lol I totally see it now 😂😂 Thanks for the behind the scenes.

  • @johnjigga6799
    @johnjigga6799 2 роки тому +1

    Bring me back to my childhood

    • @jamesteegardner2273
      @jamesteegardner2273 2 роки тому +2

      I feel the same way. A guy something to me the other day that really hit me hard. He said that as a kid, there comes a day when you go outside to play with your friends, and that's the last time that you'll ever go outside as a kid to go and play with your friends ever again. It's crazy when you think about it but it's true. There was a day once when I went to play Nintendo as a kid, and it was the very last time that I'd ever play a game on my Nintendo ever again! It happens to all of us. It's just too bad that we don't realize it at the time.

  • @franciscopalmabeltran3257
    @franciscopalmabeltran3257 Рік тому

    I never got to kill Sabuo as a kid. Never knew how to avoid him shooting at you. Yet one of my childhood faves!

  • @jamesdixon6332
    @jamesdixon6332 5 років тому +10

    Ahhh. The game that taught me the true meaning of equality.

  • @ThunderMarco911
    @ThunderMarco911 Місяць тому

    This game is crazily hard, especially when you face Jack/Riki and Joel/Shinji during the maze section.
    Bosses are deadly in this game when they grab you and Sabu tries to stun us to make us sitting ducks when Sabu draw his gun.
    Fun fact: If you pick up too many life bonuses, the game thinks you're out of lives and that's game over.

  • @rizinggodfist3049
    @rizinggodfist3049 2 місяці тому

    I'm probably alone but I always liked the ending credits melody 🎶 when you beat the game.

  • @pinmike8666
    @pinmike8666 6 років тому +25

    I would recommend the Famicom version over this; it actually has an ending.

    • @acharat6
      @acharat6 3 роки тому +2

      Is it translated? I don't wanna miss the story.

    • @kristophsams5036
      @kristophsams5036 3 роки тому

      As someone who played most of the iterations on various platforms since the 80s, I love the NES version. The Famicom felt like the inferior after thought to me.

    • @Bloodreign1
      @Bloodreign1 3 роки тому

      @@acharat6 Nothing to translate, it has no text in the ending.

    • @aweirdredtoad3637
      @aweirdredtoad3637 2 роки тому

      The enemy and character dialogue has been translated multiple times

    • @SpaceDuppy
      @SpaceDuppy 2 роки тому

      @@kristophsams5036 I grew up with renegade also but the Japanese version makes sense with context.
      Different rival schools and junk.

  • @adamtherenegade2001
    @adamtherenegade2001 3 роки тому

    I have this on my nes and gosh... I had a blast. Im 20 and i played old games when i was 8yrs. It was the sega genesis. Man.. I never knew how to play just pressing random buttons. But now im older, i got the nes and i like it! Although i didnt beat this game cause of the two warrior brothers.

  • @rodneycooper4382
    @rodneycooper4382 3 роки тому +2

    One of the few new games I could actually beat lol

  • @AngryCalvin
    @AngryCalvin 2 роки тому +1

    Normally I like Famicom versions of games more than the westernized NES versions. Renegade is the exception. I like the choice of the 1950's atmosphere. It makes this game even more of a classic. It's really unconventional and original and makes the game more fun than the Japanese version.

  • @guardiaseguridad176patrimo5
    @guardiaseguridad176patrimo5 Рік тому +2

    Aquí hay un efecto mandela por que yo recordaba perfectamente que solo salia un jefe final con la pistola no 2

  • @theskyfoogle1511
    @theskyfoogle1511 3 роки тому +2

    Kim/Misuzu is a piece of work

  • @kainigwon5433
    @kainigwon5433 Рік тому +1

    "Mr.K ain't tough enough for me."

  • @Orcishihi
    @Orcishihi 3 роки тому

    I can't believe I never tried out this game :( I was nuts about Double Dragon II and Streets of Rage

  • @JuraIbis
    @JuraIbis Рік тому +2

    Ah yes Super Dodge Ball OST ;) (I figure this one came first)

  • @Anonymous-qg9xx
    @Anonymous-qg9xx 4 роки тому +2

    At 3:44, I always wondered who's car that is: Mr. K's or Joel's(the man in blue)?? I'm guessing Mr. K trashed his motorcycle as soon as he kicked the villians off their cycles. Joel probably didn't have a motorcycle, and possibly drove to the next scene where he fights Mr K!

  • @chriswalls5831
    @chriswalls5831 Рік тому +1

    Classic 80s my new idea part 2

  • @YukaTakeuchiFan
    @YukaTakeuchiFan 6 років тому +1

    Y'know, I remember playing both this and the arcade version, and if I had to choose between Arcade Level 4 (with the knife guys who killed you in one hit, always, and Sabu still did the same with his gun) and NES Level 4 (with the maze from hell where who knows where you're going, aside from 'not you'), I think these days I'd just throw my lot in with Mr. Stabby Mans.

  • @richardmatheson5693
    @richardmatheson5693 3 роки тому +2

    Hi, is there a way to shake them when they grab you?
    I hate that guy, specially in the final mission when they are double

  • @malik87breaker
    @malik87breaker 8 місяців тому

    Can't believe there is a throwing out of stage. Nice

  • @Dunskaroo
    @Dunskaroo 4 роки тому +3

    This plot of this game took place in a time bubble where 1950s and 1980s USA were the same... and happened in Japan.

  • @mrt8944
    @mrt8944 2 роки тому +1

    That big lady behind doors 🤦🤦🤦... I dunno why many trash this game, I really loved it especially considering its an old game.

  • @DiceyJJ
    @DiceyJJ 2 місяці тому

    Maybe my favorite NES game 🔥🔥

  • @simonmejia6896
    @simonmejia6896 6 років тому +6

    "YOU AIN'T TOUGH ENOUGH FOR ME"

    • @Dunskaroo
      @Dunskaroo 4 роки тому

      Simon Mejía I used get in trouble in first grade for reenacting this game and repeating the cut scene dialogues haha 😂

  • @GBF30056
    @GBF30056 4 місяці тому

    in renegade, you get to beat your enemies without any reason and in Nekketsu Kouha Kunio-kun, You get to beat up people and save Kunio's (Your) Best Friends Sounds Heroic in my opinion ngl

  • @OldManTheseDays
    @OldManTheseDays 2 роки тому

    I still hear that music in my head…

  • @GAMESTERVISION
    @GAMESTERVISION Рік тому +2

    the nes version had multiple paths to choose. changing boss fights and rooms u saw. the arcade does not. it looks better but nes version is more fun

  • @MasterForgedRay
    @MasterForgedRay 7 місяців тому

    When i played this as a kid...there was NEVER any hamburgers or any health restoration that i remember.

  • @7thangelad586
    @7thangelad586 6 років тому +3

    Looks and sounds like the Double Dragon I had on the C64.
    Is this two player cooperative?? I’m always looking for that kind!

  • @Thewolfguys.cartoons2000
    @Thewolfguys.cartoons2000 6 років тому +3

    The style of the characters kinda reminds me of that one nes game (i forgot what's it called) and it was made by the same company who made double dragon or Capcom

    • @hanchiman
      @hanchiman 6 років тому +3

      You are correct, they were all made by Technos who created Double Dragon series, River City Ransom (AKA Nekketsu Kunio Kun). Renegade is a US localized version of Kunio Kun about a white dressed highschool delinquent fighting rival gangs.
      The guy who created Double Dragon and Kunio Kun is Yoshiaki Kishimoto which the games were sorta based of his youth as he was a delinquent in his school days

    • @Thewolfguys.cartoons2000
      @Thewolfguys.cartoons2000 6 років тому

      @@hanchiman cool, thanks for the fact

    • @ricktherrien8235
      @ricktherrien8235 4 роки тому

      Maybe River City Ransom.

  • @altrock86
    @altrock86 5 років тому

    I loved that he was Mr. K because my last name starts with K. So that was cool too me. I still can’t beat it though.

  • @Pray-4-Me
    @Pray-4-Me 5 років тому +3

    This game was bad ass back in the late 1980s still is

  • @rustyshack155
    @rustyshack155 3 роки тому +2

    13:37 Sabu's face creeped the hell out of me when I was a kid. It was like a Jumpscare!

  • @chieko3017
    @chieko3017 4 роки тому

    Back in the days when renegade was a game.....

  • @Theomite
    @Theomite 8 місяців тому

    This was my problem with _Deadly Towers_ : if you don't go in the right doors, you end up all over the place and never the end.

  • @byronwhite2450
    @byronwhite2450 2 роки тому

    Loved playing this game as a kid. I remember getting in some action before Wednesday night church during the summer and getting frustrated by those big broads, so frustrated that I in fact dropped a swear word in front of my mom, not once but twice. Needless to say I was forced to turn the game off. 😅

  • @giacjack
    @giacjack 3 роки тому

    spent lot of hours playing this game :)

  • @inevitableexpertise1016
    @inevitableexpertise1016 Рік тому

    The one game I could never beat for some reason

  • @LiftingGunsBibleTradition
    @LiftingGunsBibleTradition 11 місяців тому

    🏍️ @3:30 you can see a “MITSUBISHI” Freeway sign in the background 🛣️

  • @anthonylewis4433
    @anthonylewis4433 4 роки тому +1

    I remember this one I stay up for all most 2 days trying to play this game at my friend's house and my house I miss the Nintendo days also miss Nintendo power magazines in that time

  • @AngryCalvin
    @AngryCalvin 2 роки тому

    Sit down/punch attack, jump kicking off wall. 2 great moves not on the Double Dragon games that should have been. I guess the sit-down attack was on the first Double Dragon after leveling up. I missed it badly in Double Dragon II. Motorcycle level. Different choices of where to go. This game was not Double Dragon but definitely had things that made it different and worth going back to. Things and ideas that would have even made the Double Dragon games better had they included them. I still very much enjoy playing this game. Very overlooked and unfairly attacked. Also another NES title I prefer over the arcade version.

  • @swimsawce
    @swimsawce Рік тому

    before Dark Souls, there was THESE games!

  • @Artimes.
    @Artimes. 2 роки тому

    Well At least I played the game lol. This game was quite brutal and I was only able to make to the Ladies and they deffinitly delivered a smack down on me

  • @stoneyj1a1
    @stoneyj1a1 2 роки тому +1

    Poor man's Double Dragon. I rented this game, it was pretty awesome but couldn't find it in stores to buy.

    • @gr8gmr
      @gr8gmr Рік тому

      "Poor man's Double Dragon"? This game predated Double Dragon and was made by the same creators.

  • @gr8gmr
    @gr8gmr Рік тому

    Do you think you can do a playthrough of the original Japanese release of this game? It's good to show where the Kunio-kun series really came from.

  • @Religious_man
    @Religious_man 4 роки тому +8

    8:37 Lmao, dude on the left was playing dead. I like the expression on their faces when their asses get kicked. 4:30 That was like fighting deranged women with down syndrome.

  • @nehemiahpouncey3607
    @nehemiahpouncey3607 11 місяців тому

    My cousin's use to have this years
    Ago.

  • @Lanasano635
    @Lanasano635 3 роки тому

    So i guess Mr.k later reveals that its either Jack (Target renegade) or sonny Lee (Double dragon 3)
    This timeline gets wired and wired

  • @edparadis6685
    @edparadis6685 6 років тому +3

    you should show the Kunio-Kun orignal verison from Famicom. quite intresting

  • @IronMan_thno
    @IronMan_thno 6 років тому +5

    This is just double dragon, with similar music from double dragon and bad street brawler

    • @gr8gmr
      @gr8gmr Рік тому

      Except Double Dragon came out after this game. This was the predecessor to Double Dragon.

    • @IronMan_thno
      @IronMan_thno Рік тому

      Japanese or American version???

    • @gr8gmr
      @gr8gmr Рік тому

      @@IronMan_thno Both.

  • @Elvis70777
    @Elvis70777 5 років тому +1

    que recuerdos madre mia!

  • @kxp.1496
    @kxp.1496 3 роки тому +1

    I played this on the arcade game in 86 and 87 as a 11 year old and never played the nes, I remember the
    Firs boss. Get lost punk
    Second. Beat it scum
    Big birtha get enough already
    The knives killed you one stab
    And the final boss kills you one shot. It took a bunch of quarters but I was able to beat it in one try. the arcade version was no where close to this game but I still bought a nes game the other day

  • @RavenEffect341
    @RavenEffect341 9 місяців тому +1

    “Mr K” talking all this shit after every level. Then the boss of the game is some gun toting idiot named Sabu. There is no ending. Just end credits 😂

  • @Monkey_Slasher
    @Monkey_Slasher 8 місяців тому

    THAT'S IT? I never did beat this game. Fun fact. I always took a path that led to Kim. I enjoyed watching her pick up Mr. K and smack the shit out of him. After that, I would laugh my ass off and lose the game.

  • @chadbaier9752
    @chadbaier9752 2 роки тому

    "You're not tough enough for me."

  • @afriendofbean
    @afriendofbean 4 роки тому +1

    I'm sure this is a fun game to play but, what was the meaning of this game? It never showed any intro about someone getting kidnapped and you had to fight bad guys to save the person where all it showed was for you to pick whether you want "One Player" or "Two Players" and then the game starts where you fight bad guys and after defeating the last guy, the end credits start at 14:42 not showing whether you rescued someone and/or it never showed you being claimed as a hero for something.

    • @obsoleteworlds
      @obsoleteworlds 4 роки тому

      In the real game you were rescuing your girlfriend. Not sure why this was omitted from the NES game.

    • @afriendofbean
      @afriendofbean 4 роки тому

      @@obsoleteworlds That's very good to know that this game at least had a meaning that you are rescuing someone. If I was playing this game on NES and after defeating the last guy I would have felt bad that I didn't win anything, save anyone, or be claimed as a hero.

  • @Judah--YB
    @Judah--YB 4 роки тому

    Memories

  • @StoicEver
    @StoicEver 4 роки тому +1

    Equal oppurtunity ass whoopings in this game!

  • @gilbertg.8191
    @gilbertg.8191 Рік тому

    he got that greaser haircut going lol🤣

  • @andrewg.1377
    @andrewg.1377 2 роки тому

    I loved thid game and never forgot that squeak sound with the jump kick.

  • @alkaline3254
    @alkaline3254 2 місяці тому

    5:55 we used to call that B , big momma

  • @SuikodenClive
    @SuikodenClive Рік тому

    I could never beat this damn game.

  • @shibez
    @shibez 2 роки тому

    streets of rage before streets of rage

  • @chris.pbacon1811
    @chris.pbacon1811 4 роки тому +1

    I remember renting this from the video store

  • @joshuamartindale868
    @joshuamartindale868 Рік тому +1

    Nakketsu Koha Kunio Kun

  • @pitro1641
    @pitro1641 Рік тому +1

    This Nekketsu Kouha Kunio kun ?

  • @jasonodell79er
    @jasonodell79er Місяць тому

    Loved this game. Never came to close to beating it i dont think.