Why Sports Team Owners Are The Greatest Fools

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  • Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
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    In 2023, a new record was set with the $6 billion acquisition of the Washington Commanders by billionaire Josh Harris. But do these figures truly reflect the value of sports teams, or is there a 'greater fool' behind the curtains? Dive deep into the world of sports economics and discover the real game billionaires are playing.
    0:00 - 2:21 Intro
    2:21 - 6:01 Business model
    6:02 - 8:46 Team level economics
    8:47 - 11:28 Ruthless competition
    11:29 - The greater fool
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  • @wallstreetmillennial
    @wallstreetmillennial  10 місяців тому +7

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  • @lombardo141
    @lombardo141 10 місяців тому +64

    I don’t think billionaires buy sports teams to make a profit. To them is like buying just another toy. 😂

    • @IvanPlayStation4LiFe
      @IvanPlayStation4LiFe 19 днів тому

      to make money

    • @tanner9956
      @tanner9956 7 днів тому

      Yea If my net worth was 100 billion what’s 6 billion going to do and if it loses -100 million who cares

  • @TiberianFiend
    @TiberianFiend 10 місяців тому +60

    I always saw ownership of sports teams as vanity purchases.

    • @cgasucks
      @cgasucks 10 місяців тому +1

      You don't see Warren Buffet owning one, even though he can buy one easily.

    • @TiberianFiend
      @TiberianFiend 10 місяців тому

      @@cgasucks OK?

    • @arnoldvosloo220
      @arnoldvosloo220 10 місяців тому +4

      @@TiberianFiend He's agreeing with you lol

    • @teaser2373
      @teaser2373 10 місяців тому

      @@cgasucks If you aint rich, u poor - Warren Buffet

  • @BangBangBang.
    @BangBangBang. 10 місяців тому +53

    I live in Jacksonville, Florida. Our area is being ruined by the Jacksonville Jaguars owner Shad Khan. Shad has the whole city in a chokehold because he's demanding us pay to upgrade his stadium when we got sales taxed to build it initially. My area of town has substandard roads, flooding in the roads due to lack of storm water drains, and a lack of law enforcement which most of you saw the national news about the Dollar Store shooting. But the city has enough money to give Shad Khan a blank check. The downtown area where the stadium is at is also the location of the downtown jail and also homeless resources. So you get out of jail or dropped off downtown, you never leave that area. The current tropical storm hitting our area will blow away all the trash that piles up downtown due to people living on the streets because of the social programs nearby feeding, clothing and supporting them. So the city's plan which they haven't announced officially and a lot of insiders know about is to move the downtown jail over by the airport and near the county line by the "main county jail" that is on 100 acres. So watch the city will probably turn the location of the jail once its knocked down into a hotel and give the keys to Shad Khan. Keep an eye on the drama with Jacksonville, the Jacksonville Jaguars and Shad Khan. The newly elected mayor is running around "seeking community input" but we all know the deal is being made. The mayor is doing these meetings to make us think we have feedback when the ink is already dry.
    The saddest part is Shad Khan sells it to us as jobs. Oh great, more low paying low skill jobs in the nearby deteriorating neighborhood where you need 2-3 jobs just to sustain your family.

    • @BangBangBang.
      @BangBangBang. 10 місяців тому +9

      Please please please do a video about local government and real estate developers/investors getting into deals with each other using your tax money to make these deals

    • @tonycrabtree3416
      @tonycrabtree3416 10 місяців тому +9

      People who intentionally vote taxes on themselves for hundred millionaires is total clownville.

    • @arnoldvosloo220
      @arnoldvosloo220 10 місяців тому +6

      @@tonycrabtree3416 For real. You reap what you sow.

    • @Menstral
      @Menstral 27 днів тому

      I lived in Jacksonville and the corruption is historical and broad. But the St Johns River is incredibly wide, and it's sitting on the largest aquifer in the world. The flooding is never going to go away. Sports in general are for morons.

  • @mariusvanc
    @mariusvanc 10 місяців тому +108

    Owning a sports team is a vanity project/status to begin with, and governments seem them as community assets that lift up the profile of their cities, so they get massive amounts of tax breaks. They're not quite as foolish as it may seem.

    • @me0101001000
      @me0101001000 10 місяців тому +9

      I don't know if you saw Professor Damodaran's lecture on this recently, but he goes over exactly this. Sports aren't an investment, they're trophy assets, as he called them; fancy toys for these billionaires to play with. That's it.

    • @tiararoxeanne1318
      @tiararoxeanne1318 7 місяців тому +2

      How much does the tax break the owner get? I doubt it would be greater than the net loss. Still, it doesn't make sense to me. And frankly I don't really believe the 'greatest fool' theory is applied here. Team performance, and by extension their valuation, is mostly depending to the players. And the players, like most human beings, are very unrealizable investments. On the other hands, Abramovic and other billionaires and even the private equities are no fool. There must be something missing here🤔

  • @Mokarney
    @Mokarney 10 місяців тому +30

    You don't but a sports team to make money. Owning a team is the current day version of being royalty.

    • @perfectallycromulent
      @perfectallycromulent 10 місяців тому +3

      royalty is still the current day version of royalty

    • @Robert-ey2vp
      @Robert-ey2vp 10 місяців тому +2

      @@perfectallycromulentNowadays corporate lords have more power than remaining royals

  • @mariuslastname7563
    @mariuslastname7563 10 місяців тому +18

    when you mentioned fine art i assumed you were talking about masterworks and started thinking "how far do i have to skip now"

  • @brendanwiley253
    @brendanwiley253 10 місяців тому +27

    Everything I've heard about every entertainment industry from youtube to Hollywood to now sports is that despite making insanely massive revenues, the best of the best barely break even and everything mostly just opperates at a loss.

    • @glennjanot8128
      @glennjanot8128 10 місяців тому +5

      That comes mainly from two things. One is the salaries for the players and the second is transfer fees (which is very predominant in soccer)
      Case in point. Lionel Messi. Wanted to go back to Barcelona but that club couldn't get the money together to pay his salary. Messi refused to go to Saudi Arabia (where they would have paid him somewhere between $300-500 million) and is now playing for Inter Miami in the MLS. His salary there? $50 million plus a cut from jersey sales and TV deal money, bringing his income to somewhere around $250 million.
      But lets just take the basic income of $50 million. A club has to bring in that money in the first place. And Messi isn't the only player.
      But over the past few decades, the Spanish and Italian clubs have outbid themselves regularly to get certain players. Amounts of 100-200 million Euros in transfer fees for a player became more and more the norm. Then these players earn a lot of money every year. So a club has to somehow recuperate that money through ticket sales, merchandise, tournament money and TV deals. The aforemenioned clubs accumulated massive debts.
      And now we see the Saudis spend billions on players. One exmaple: Neymar
      $100 million for Neymar in transfer fees that go to his former club. He got a two-year contract that nets him between 150-200 million per year(!). And he got some strange extra perks. Every time he does a social media post in which he advertises for Saudi Arabia, he gets €500,000. Winning a match: €80,000 bonus.
      And then the crazy extra stuff. He gets to use a private jet if he or his family needs to travel. Eight luxury cars. A driver to be there all the time. A 25-room villa with three saunas and a 400 m² pool. Five full-time employees (paid for by the club), one of whom is a sous-chef that helps Neymar's personal cook he brought from Brazil.
      I get the feeling, those last things were a kind of trolling on Neymar's part to see what the Saudi's would be willing to give and it got out of hand

    • @chiquita683
      @chiquita683 10 місяців тому +4

      Tax shields for assets that are meant to appreciate in value rather than generate profits

    • @tonycrabtree3416
      @tonycrabtree3416 10 місяців тому

      Yeah, nah. I’m pretty sure Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys are printing money.

  • @arnoldvosloo220
    @arnoldvosloo220 10 місяців тому +52

    Until one of these guys loses a ton of money after cashing out, hard to call it stupid. All I've seen is these guys making hundreds of millions if not billions, and here we are a bunch of plebs calling them stupid. Besides, even if they didn't make a ton on the team itself, who knows how much they've made through connections or clout associated with owning the team. Long story short, I highly doubt the wealth of these billionaire owners is declining after buying these teams.

    • @1greenMitsi
      @1greenMitsi 10 місяців тому +7

      what this guy dosent understand is these billionaires arent purchasing sports franchises to turn a profit. Its a discretionary expense, its a luxury, its status and on the odd ocassion a purchase of passion 1st, business venture 2nd and a tax write off 3rd

  • @BloodRider1914
    @BloodRider1914 10 місяців тому +34

    No one should buy a football club to make money. The only rational reason to buy one is (as many of the Arab owners of Europe's football clubs do) to pump your money into something you can be proud of and have fun doing. So football ownership is simply a super expensive competitive hobby that can be somewhat profitable...maybe.

    • @MakerInMotion
      @MakerInMotion 10 місяців тому

      The ponzi schemer Allen Stanford bought a cricket club and seemed more interested in the players' wives and girlfriends than what was happening on the field.

    • @Donkeyearsa
      @Donkeyearsa 9 місяців тому +1

      International sports teams really need to look at the American professional leagues as an example of how to do it the right way. You go to a city and tell them that you would consider moving your team to their city if they would make it worth your while. You make the city to pay for absolutely everything from the sports arena to every little minor expense using tax dollars. But when it come to the revenue you get paid in full off of of anything and everything that makes any revenue what so ever before anyone else sees a single penny.

    • @Bentley7Cruize
      @Bentley7Cruize 9 днів тому

      ​@Donkeyearsa no. They shouldnt.

  • @edition-deluxe
    @edition-deluxe 10 місяців тому +27

    All this article proves is how good billionaires are at tax evasion. Player salaries are 50% of revenue, and most teams today are playing in buildings they made tax payers pay for.

  • @sandman516
    @sandman516 10 місяців тому +62

    I'm so happy you made this video. For the longest time, I could not for the life of me understand why these teams are worth billions, but are struggling to break even almost every year. The valuations just didn't make sense.

    • @Olm-
      @Olm- 10 місяців тому +20

      he omitted some pretty important stuff though. like land how land and arena prices for many of the teams is what the bulk of the cost is for certain teams. like thats why golden state is evaluated so much higher than any team. it’s not because they’re just that much better it’s because they own their arena and the land around it right in san francisco which is a huge pricetag

    • @Invin_cibles
      @Invin_cibles 10 місяців тому

      If you base your knowledge of the worth of sports team off of this video then you’re either completely unintelligible or have no clue about the matter. This is one of the worse takes on sports owner ship I have ever seen. It’s not just about the value bought for, sold and spent in between. They’re much larger entities than that. I’d advise, the level of intellect the guy that makes these videos has is akin to a 19 year old college kid failing at an economics degree and having to take history instead.

    • @ThanhNguyen-pp2jn
      @ThanhNguyen-pp2jn 10 місяців тому +2

      Also, sports teams are artificially limited so as each league's revenue grows, the franchise value grows. It's also one of the areas where the ultra rich can flex. Having your team have success is something you can brag about at the next billionaire's party.

    • @arnoldvosloo220
      @arnoldvosloo220 10 місяців тому +20

      @@ThanhNguyen-pp2jn Correct. I find it strange that he's saying the billionaires flipping sports clubs are greater fools, yet not too long ago he was shilling that art investment fund that was sponsoring the channel.

    • @templarknight7
      @templarknight7 10 місяців тому

      @@Olm- Pretty sure the rise in Golden State's value can be tied directly to the team becoming a dynasty and Curry becoming one of the most popular players in the world. Their valuation shot up a lot even before they got their own arena. Besides, most teams don't own the land or stadium they play in.

  • @winchcable2282
    @winchcable2282 10 місяців тому +133

    You may have missed the tax haven ability that they and their systems have. Many teams, stadiums and etc. get nonprofit status in the cities or state that they are in since they are critical to tourism revenue for these locations. They were also gifted real estate and other advantages these may not be fully shown on their metrics also other corporations could take advantage of that tax haven and put certain duties on these facilities, it is not uncommon to find some of the stadiums to have retail or otherwise venues in them full-time not also counting, renting the venue out for other events.

    • @FuxBoiGOAT
      @FuxBoiGOAT 10 місяців тому +7

      Tax em

    • @chillphil967
      @chillphil967 10 місяців тому +1

      yeah you’re spot on

    • @supermanblackedition
      @supermanblackedition 10 місяців тому +3

      @@FuxBoiGOAT they’d just move cities

    • @RavarsenBlogspot
      @RavarsenBlogspot 10 місяців тому +6

      I don’t think the benefits can offset the losses made

    • @winchcable2282
      @winchcable2282 10 місяців тому

      they rent the stadium for events (tax free) a stadium many are gifted and pay no profit tax on. that stadium is also normally sponsored. Covering it maintenance. The non profit also covers most of their licensed merchandise. Which is a huge point of profit. and that's just the non money laundering done. See tax code IRC 501c (1-7) googling (PRO Sports Act, which would close a loophole that gives special tax breaks to some pro sports)@@RavarsenBlogspot

  • @smarthustle7063
    @smarthustle7063 10 місяців тому +31

    I would like to see an analysis of savvy mid table teams like Brighton. Where they are really good at scouting players for cheap and selling them at really great margins...

    • @cfcblue8
      @cfcblue8 10 місяців тому +4

      I remember watching something similar awhile back with Benfica as an example. One issue brought up is that teams using those models get stuck in a groudhog day loop and stay mid table. The problem arises when the players start developing and want bigger salaries, the club gets put in a Catch 22 situation. Their main source of revenue is from selling players so as a result, they cannot afford the bigger salaries and have to sell them so they always remain a mid table team.

  • @joeshmoe7485
    @joeshmoe7485 10 місяців тому +15

    Not if they get the local taxpayers to foot all the bills for stadiums and everything...

    • @squorsh
      @squorsh 10 місяців тому

      They go to the city and say "yeah this stadium will bring in a ton of revenue to the city, ignore the fact that it makes every other metric for quality of life worse," and the city listens

  • @Lowkeyyshorts
    @Lowkeyyshorts 10 місяців тому +19

    You had me in the first half not gonna lie 😂
    Thought he would hit us with the masterworks ad

    • @ray-mc-l
      @ray-mc-l 10 місяців тому +3

      hahaha dont see those much anymore. masterworks will be dust within 5 years. no doubt in my mind.

  • @wanr5701
    @wanr5701 10 місяців тому +139

    This is the very reason why community ownership (like FC Barcelona, Real Madrid, Green Bay Packers) is the best when it comes to sports. Sports clubs represent community and should remain that way. They are not there to make money but as a pride for the people.

    • @philthornton1382
      @philthornton1382 10 місяців тому +13

      Arguably the best ownership is the local businessman who uses it for community pride, see Jack Walker at Blackburn Rovers, Sam Longson at Derby etc
      Community owned teams struggle financially to keep up

    • @arnoldvosloo220
      @arnoldvosloo220 10 місяців тому +11

      @@philthornton1382 Yep easy to pull a very small sample of success stories like Barcelona if you ignore all the struggling/borderline bankrupt clubs.

    • @Moses_VII
      @Moses_VII 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@@philthornton1382Iran has a sports team owned by a tractor manufacturer. 'This team will harvest victory!' is what I imagine they could be saying.

    • @saltmerchant749
      @saltmerchant749 10 місяців тому +13

      Poor example given the financial black hole Barcelona have accrued.

    • @templarknight7
      @templarknight7 10 місяців тому +9

      @@arnoldvosloo220 isn't barcelona a bankrupt club?

  • @asdf0747
    @asdf0747 10 місяців тому +55

    how are you popping these out almost daily like a factory? the in depth research and mathematic breakdown goes on these videos rivals that of university courses.

    • @NotKimiRaikkonen
      @NotKimiRaikkonen 10 місяців тому +10

      I also wonder this. Seems like a lot of work to complete daily.

    • @AdofHitter2103
      @AdofHitter2103 10 місяців тому +16

      I’m pretty it’s not one man team. Like there whole team and all, as voice has changed often throughout the year

    • @Invin_cibles
      @Invin_cibles 10 місяців тому +11

      Because these videos are basic to begin with. This video alone is laughable to say the least.

    • @BK-uf6xm
      @BK-uf6xm 10 місяців тому +5

      it's a bunch of stories and screenshots not a big deal really

    • @anselmkulet8112
      @anselmkulet8112 10 місяців тому +4

      @@Invin_cibles i didn't even notice till you mentioned it but yea you're right

  • @001sander2
    @001sander2 10 місяців тому +5

    In terms of Saudi Arabia, I refer you to your previous video about sportswashing. For Saudi, the benefit of sportswashing could be more far reaching than the bottom line of the team’s business.

  • @prisonpete6177
    @prisonpete6177 9 місяців тому +3

    What you also fail to realize is that most teams own their own stadium which brings in wayyyyy more revenue (i.e. concerts, other 3rd party games, tours).

  • @dangerbeans9639
    @dangerbeans9639 9 місяців тому +4

    This perfectly encapsulates the reasons why college sports (where players don't get paid) are hugely successful and ESports (where top players can make more money becoming streamers) are failing.

    • @Opieboi
      @Opieboi 3 місяці тому +1

      Well yeah I mean why else would the south fight so hard for those slaves

  • @ronjon7942
    @ronjon7942 8 місяців тому +1

    The greater fool theory - I used this when buying, then selling our 26’ sailboat! Fortunately for middle class us, we were talking only $thousands, and we sold it ten years later for maybe a little more than what we paid for it, when we found a greater fool.
    Sigh, 20 years later, I miss that boat, so maybe someday soon I’ll be someone else’s greater fool.

  • @SC-bs7jd
    @SC-bs7jd 10 місяців тому +7

    It is about keeping up with the billionaire Joneses equivalent. Ego thing. When you have a huge amount of money, what else are you going to spend it on?

  • @edition-deluxe
    @edition-deluxe 10 місяців тому +3

    Profit margins are NOT so low, you are just looking at this from their own accounting, and they are of course cooking the books, so they do not have to pay any taxes, or as little as possible.

  • @mynameisjeff.
    @mynameisjeff. 10 місяців тому +8

    the nba has a maximum contract. there's no highest bidder competition for the top players like you described. the top players can get the max contract on any team that they want. the league also has a salary cap

    • @Opieboi
      @Opieboi 3 місяці тому

      The max contract only applies to like the top 20 players, u bid for the rest, and the salary cap moves up every year anyways

  • @BeautifulEarthJa
    @BeautifulEarthJa 10 місяців тому +16

    If the owners were getting nothing, they wouldn't do it.
    A lot of them are being subsidised by the public but raking in ownership benefits.

  • @nemeanlioness
    @nemeanlioness 10 місяців тому +2

    Thought it was just about that status. Cars don’t cut it when your a billionaire I guess. Gotta show off

  • @saltmerchant749
    @saltmerchant749 10 місяців тому +3

    Through a pure profit lens, sure.
    Through a wider political and geopolitical position, it's more nuanced.

  • @ThirstyFou
    @ThirstyFou 10 місяців тому +2

    Dear WSM,
    Profit is what is left after you account for expenses and sports teams ... they can come up with a WHOLE HELL OF A LOT of unnecessary expenses... They are probably way more profitable then you think. They just have to look this way so they get public money when they "need" it.

  • @jameslancefield9810
    @jameslancefield9810 9 місяців тому +1

    The reason Chelsea were posting losses is because Abramovich was putting his own cash in so they could buy the best players. It doesn't mean it's a complete loss maker. You could easily make it profitable, but the performances would suffer greatly. Basically it's a choice, not a natural outcome.

  • @pravinhraj5631
    @pravinhraj5631 10 місяців тому

    @wallstreetmillennial i love every single one of your videos ! They are very informative and very easily understandable. Thanks for the amazing work !! ❤❤

  • @shakiMiki
    @shakiMiki 10 місяців тому +3

    For Abramovic the purchase of Chelsea was commercial. It gave him entry to UK & a certain degree of protection from Putin.

  • @dickensider6049
    @dickensider6049 10 місяців тому +1

    IMO, billionaires aren’t buying these teams for cash flow purposes but for asset growth purposes and to park billions of dollars…it’s akin to billionaires buying $100MM homes in NYC and never living in it…Same difference.

  • @txn4yt7mc5
    @txn4yt7mc5 10 місяців тому +1

    Professional sports are some of the closest example of perfect competition. A lot of undifferentiated firms bidding for limited talent therefore all the rents accrue to the players not the capital and profit margins are practically zero or negative

  • @lousimms4766
    @lousimms4766 9 місяців тому

    Man, you're good! I've always said this, but couldn't explain why I felt these valuations were off.

  • @mastpg
    @mastpg 10 місяців тому +2

    Ok, it's also foolish to buy a Chiron or a Gemera...but what else are you going to do with several billion dollars? These are trophy assets. They have no actual utility or necessary benefits to their owners or customers. Of course they don't make sense...

  • @journeytrulife
    @journeytrulife 10 місяців тому +3

    I see what you are saying in here, however what is the other perspective you do not take is money laundering. Football teams have been in the past and continue to be one of the best ways to do money laundering. Even if you do an analysis of the owners of teams you will see the origins of these owners, are many teams the least to say questionable.

  • @rustler160
    @rustler160 7 днів тому

    Indeed, buying a sports team is merely about status, but I guess we should have known that in the first place. Thanks for the video

  • @timbruns1636
    @timbruns1636 10 місяців тому +2

    "Soccer, or Football as they call it" - Bruh, almost the entire world calls it Football. Only 3 out of 195 countries even use the word "Soccer"...

    • @RBzee112
      @RBzee112 10 місяців тому

      Bruh, before 1990, soccer and football were used interchangeably in English speaking countries. Then it suddenly became frowned upon to say soccer.

    • @ProfAzimov
      @ProfAzimov 9 місяців тому

      ​@AZee112 Tbf, its just because people like hating other people.
      And everyone is confused on what the "Great Filter" is.

  • @franciscodanconia4324
    @franciscodanconia4324 9 місяців тому

    Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys for $150M in 1989. Today: $7.4B valuation. 12% annual return. Not too shabby

  • @deeharp
    @deeharp 10 місяців тому +1

    Sports teams are billionaires Toys. no different than a Yacht, Car, or Mansion. Also everyone is getting paid in the Revenue side. Net Profit matters, but the teams also give this Guys Clout in the cities and across the country. You make lose money. But The value of people kissing your ass all day is priceless.

  • @vanesslifeygo
    @vanesslifeygo 10 місяців тому +1

    I wonder if some people do this because they enjoy the idea of owning another person or group of people and that it might make them look saintly to people who are similar to them, thought of as "everyone" by them. It is much more appropriate than trafficking, though.

  • @Arponare
    @Arponare 14 днів тому

    Buying a sports team isn’t about money. For many it’s about status. For some it’s about sportwashing, and for a few, they actually care about the club and want it to see it do well.

  • @wamnicho
    @wamnicho 10 місяців тому +12

    They’re not fools man, otherwise they wouldn’t be rich, they’re just spending money on a hobby, they don’t expect to make a profit, would you be considered a fool if you were rich and decided to buy a Ferrari or rolls Royce

    • @michaellawilson3491
      @michaellawilson3491 10 місяців тому +4

      You do not have to be especially smart or talented to be rich. Most people who are, according to the Forbes richest people list, inherit their wealth. And Lol, yes, you would be a fool in most cases buying a Rolls or a Ferrari. Almost all cars lose value once you drive them off the lot. The only difference with the extremely wealthy is that they have rare editions/productions of expensive cars that actually retain value available to them. Mind you, those special editions are only available for purchase to people who have purchased other more common varieties of the Brand’s cars. Us normies do not, even if the car has a high price ticket or good name.

    • @killersberg1
      @killersberg1 10 місяців тому +1

      He talked about how it is not about making money for them. It is foolish from a monetary perspective.

    • @FunNHonesty
      @FunNHonesty 10 місяців тому

      @@killersberg1some people can only read or listen to any information at face value. They are clearly not fools but you, me, and most other logical people knew that already

    • @wamnicho
      @wamnicho 10 місяців тому

      @@michaellawilson3491 Not all non-rare edition cars will lose value, it also depends on the person who owned the car, for example if Messi or micheal Jordan or Lebron James bought a Toyota Camry back in 2008 for 25,000 and decided to sell it today and the public knew the car was owned by one of the people I mentioned, the car could fetch 100s of thousands and even millions at auction. For example Obama sold his 2004 Chrysler sedan for 2 million dollars

    • @templarknight7
      @templarknight7 10 місяців тому

      That's not entirely true. There are plenty of owners that are accused of being cheapskates. Heck, pretty much all of MLB is focused on profit.

  • @ronjon7942
    @ronjon7942 8 місяців тому +1

    Regarding the sky high valuations, is there any similarity between how much a sports team is worth vs. some tech company that seemed crazily overvalued, like say, WeWork?

  • @Blaster0095
    @Blaster0095 9 місяців тому

    I mean look at PSG and Qatar. Looks how they hosted the world cup and now everyone knows their name. I increases their credibility and awareness around the world.

  • @patrickledonne5547
    @patrickledonne5547 10 місяців тому +1

    Sports teams are a vanity business operating with a level of exclusivity other businesses do not enjoy. More comparable to a yacht or a work of art. Anyone can start a hot dog stand, convenience store or doohickey manufacturer with capital. Sports teams, like Picasso's are in limited supply.when an asset like this only comes up for sale a couple times a decade, and there's dozens of people wanting to get in, the valuation skyrockets over the actual value based on revenue and assets. People who buy these teams aren't sinking their fortune into them. They're multi-billionaires investing 10%- 20% of their billions. They'll be fine if it's a loss. It also has the benefit of offering exposure. Mark Cuban purchased the Mavericks for 285 million. Who heard of Mark Cuban before that? How much of his current worth can be attributed to the fame he got being the mavericks owner?

  • @DarkBloodbane
    @DarkBloodbane 10 місяців тому

    Two things here:
    1. Company valuation sounds so dubious these days. Look at Nikola, FTX and Theranos who have high valuation, but we all know what actually happened behind them.
    Not saying sports team are like that, no no. I only say that their valuation might not represent everything we need to know about them.
    2. There are non financial benefits from having soccer teams. Some leagues might lose fame if certain teams/clubs don't participate, even some matches are so famous that a rematch is desired.
    And of course, entertainment benefits. People loves watching sports.
    I don't deny the loss from maintaining sports teams/clubs obviously. Maybe the loss would be covered by profit from other "sources", who knows?.

  • @joseph2707
    @joseph2707 10 місяців тому +1

    Another great video!

  • @GearheadDaily
    @GearheadDaily 10 місяців тому +3

    They seem to cash out pretty well.

  • @samsonsoturian6013
    @samsonsoturian6013 10 місяців тому +3

    It's a prestige item that gets your name in the news. Of course people overpay.

    • @ForcefighterX2
      @ForcefighterX2 10 місяців тому

      Exactly. Owning a sports team is like buying an expensive car. Of course it is overpriced.
      Rich people do not buy these teams for business - they do this for ego, fun or marketing reasons. When you are rich, you cannot go around and yell "I am rich". Instead, you have to slap your name onto things in order to prove your wealth.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 10 місяців тому

      You're assuming there is ultimately profit in mind. Many of these rich guys are literally buying themselves a job on their favorite sports team, and that makes them happy. Like how that Israeli billionaire literally bought himself a job on the space station by funding the companies that needed the experiments done@@ForcefighterX2

  • @kevindudson2344
    @kevindudson2344 10 місяців тому +2

    Dude who is to say they ain't just fans?

  • @maxduncan7090
    @maxduncan7090 10 місяців тому +1

    Hi there, I was wondering if you could do a follow up on this with a analysis of some football teams that do make profits and are self sufficient. Just look at Ajax Amsterdam in the last X years. It is really interesting to see a club that doesn’t play in a highly televised league (sans European championships Europa league or champions league). It’s quite interesting in the scope of this video.

    • @maxduncan7090
      @maxduncan7090 10 місяців тому

      Also money is one thing but that curve about Chelsea has to include championships. In the football world it seems championships come first. It’s not about being elite alone, it’s about winning.

    • @cynicalexpat
      @cynicalexpat 10 місяців тому

      A big part for the "smaller" clubs making money is 'growing/developing' talent. For example this summer alone Brighton and Hove Albion (small market team in the EPL) have made over 100m pounds profit on transfer fees. In fact for the last few years they have become known for their recruitment of relatively unknowns and developing them into (in wall street term) 5 and 10 xers.
      Jude Bellingham who started at Birmingham City for free was then transferred by Birmingham for 25m pounds to Borrusia Dortmund who then transferred him to Real Madrid for 103m Euro.
      Ajax is well known and regarded as having an excellent academy where it develops youngsters, they then sign these youngsters to their books, in the hopes these players get noticed by the big boys and thus command a hefty transfer fee.
      By far the most famous and most gifted home grown export Ajax had was Johan Cruyff who became one of the most gifted players of all time and was transferred to Barcelona for a then world record fee, but from an economic standpoint the golden generation of the 90's probably netted them the most cash. Ajax is well run club who know how to find/nurture talent and then know how to benefit both from performance and economically.

  • @andrelockridge9109
    @andrelockridge9109 18 днів тому

    Dan Snyder bought the Red skins for $800 million in 1999. Recently He sold same franchise for $6Billion. We should ALL be that "Foolish"!!!

  • @kuukeli
    @kuukeli 10 місяців тому

    thank you for the video

  • @thedeadbatterydepot
    @thedeadbatterydepot 10 місяців тому

    So thats how they do it, the next buy out will be worth more then paid originally, excellent breakdown

  • @markcares834
    @markcares834 20 днів тому

    What do you have on the baseball team the Oakland A's? Back in 2007 they were big on cutting slaries.

  • @pwm8277
    @pwm8277 10 місяців тому

    very informative video.

  • @KaineTremaine
    @KaineTremaine 24 дні тому

    You should've highlighted Michael Jordan buying low on the Hornets then selling for over 3 5 Billion

  • @janakakumara3836
    @janakakumara3836 10 місяців тому +1

    It seems like an Arab billionaire prince is always the mark of those awaiting the "greater fool"

  • @jpvillaseca
    @jpvillaseca 10 місяців тому +2

    Wall Street Millennial Land Crabs let's gooooooooo🦀🦀🦀🦀

  • @sau002
    @sau002 10 місяців тому

    Nicely done.

  • @codelessunlimited7701
    @codelessunlimited7701 9 місяців тому +1

    What? They get free money from the taxpayers to build their expensive and luxurious stadium.

  • @rogerterry5013
    @rogerterry5013 10 місяців тому +1

    This is an excellent channel. We’ll done.

  • @rizpatel3552
    @rizpatel3552 6 місяців тому

    This is only applicable in United States not in euporean union wherein these sports team are super lucrative . The media sponsor ship itself is more then twice covers for individual team spend

  • @Lucas_Antar
    @Lucas_Antar 10 місяців тому

    This is like it companies actually paid people what they’re worth based on the income of the company and not just the lowest they can pay before no one applies for the job.

  • @wilfredpeake9987
    @wilfredpeake9987 10 місяців тому

    i would say sports teams are like yachts, even though they are highly impractical if you can get one great business deal its worth it. Imagine the net work opportunities and it starts to make sense the cultural impact of sport and having power over that culture allows you to have dinner with some of the most powerful people in the world

  • @JaysonSmith-uk6cl
    @JaysonSmith-uk6cl 9 місяців тому +1

    The owners make real money when they sell them, if they bought it for 1,theyll sell it for 2 billion.. Uncle steve Cohen bought the Mets and he's no dummy..

  • @mattngai6722
    @mattngai6722 10 місяців тому +1

    What you called as "breakup fee", is called "transfer fee" i football. And yes, it is called football because it is played solely with foot by the outfield players.

  • @squorsh
    @squorsh 10 місяців тому +1

    I sure love living in a time where everything is in a bubble. Thanks wall street and world governments

  • @aenorist2431
    @aenorist2431 9 місяців тому

    Assuming billionaires need to be financially sound in what they do, or do things for reasons beside "because I can".

  • @KeyserSoze592
    @KeyserSoze592 10 місяців тому

    I can tell you know very little about NBA contracts. There's no real bidding war between teams as the collective bargaining agreement allows incumbent teams to offer their top players ten of millions more than any other team and it allows them to offer longer contracts than others. The player mobility in the league has more to do with the top players trying to optimize their chances of success.

  • @TIO540S1
    @TIO540S1 10 місяців тому

    It's a large leap to claim that 2018/2019 are more representative than 2022/2023.

  • @MrBeast-1
    @MrBeast-1 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm sure there is some tax evasion scheme with owning a sports team

  • @Brockleigh35
    @Brockleigh35 Місяць тому

    There’s an old joke:
    How do you make a small fortune?
    Start with a large fortune and buy a sports team. Pretty soon you’ll be down to a small fortune.

  • @TheMelvinWei
    @TheMelvinWei 10 місяців тому

    It's the greater fool theory. The intelligence of the business world is vastly overestimated.

  • @themsuicjunkies
    @themsuicjunkies 10 місяців тому +1

    if "billionaire" is code for a member of a family of an oil teocracy, then yes you are correct.

  • @williammoss9065
    @williammoss9065 9 місяців тому

    WELL DONE

  • @lamchunting856
    @lamchunting856 10 місяців тому

    It’s the same reason why people buy luxury items

  • @VamboraSingapore
    @VamboraSingapore 4 місяці тому

    Just have to chuckle you used fine art analogy as a greater fool and unsustaible business model when you kept pushing Masterw0rks the past 2Y hehehe. Good vid though

  • @peterparker2068
    @peterparker2068 14 днів тому

    I don't think owners of sports teams buy teams for the money. They just like the team.

  • @xcw4934
    @xcw4934 10 місяців тому

    So sports organisations are basically a speculative asset like crypto. You can't sustain a profit as hyper competition ensures player salaries erode any revenue gains and if you buy them with a profit motive you do so hoping that someone else will decide it's worth more than you paid. Owning a sports team has some very unique and impressive perks but it also comes with a pretty hefty negative cashflow for the privilege.

  • @carefir
    @carefir 10 місяців тому

    The same thing can be said of the stock market.

  • @strana
    @strana 10 місяців тому +1

    is there a name for the type of graph on 7:17?

  • @poetreeblooms8708
    @poetreeblooms8708 10 місяців тому

    Billionaires buy sports teams not for profit but for prestige. One book on football says that what every successful football team needs is a “sugar daddy” who will splurge on the team. 😊

  • @gregheffley2
    @gregheffley2 10 місяців тому

    its supply and demand that causes these exorbitant prices

  • @markcares834
    @markcares834 10 місяців тому

    How have the baseball team the Oakland A's done? The reason I ask is that they were famous years ago for cutting salaries and using statistics.

  • @beinquisitive
    @beinquisitive 10 місяців тому

    Wall Street millennial been going hardcore lately

  • @redx11x
    @redx11x 2 дні тому

    Clearlake has the Saudi Government as an investor.

  • @TheSushiandme
    @TheSushiandme 10 місяців тому +1

    Mark Cuban enters the chat

  • @blueyhis.zarsoff1147
    @blueyhis.zarsoff1147 10 місяців тому

    In the world of soccer they owners are ripping out the transfer cash as in most cases the law says you cant take profit.

  • @Kamau1865
    @Kamau1865 9 місяців тому +1

    I just don't think you understand English football or the most popular sport in the world. Our game is about GLORY. English football/soccer is very different to American sports. Billionaire owners who purchase soccer teams often do so to increase their profile with the British and European establishment, plus influence with UEFA/FIFA and experience the glory of success at almost any price. It's simply not about investment and return. It started with billionaires like Abramovich buying Chelsea (a mid-sized club) and pumping billions of dollars into the squad and making Chelsea a top team of champions. In the 1990s Manchester United became a soccer superpower that experienced incredible sporting success in part due to a slick commercial marketing and sponsorship department that generated incredible revenue subsequently reinvested into the squad. Manchester United are legitimately massive and glorious. Chelsea prior to Roman Abramovich was a cup team. They signed slightly past their best Italian superstars and former World Cup winners in the 1990s but we're not competing for the biggest prizes and had only a medium sized fan base. Chelsea under Abramovich was the first real example of sporting doping. A club of Chelsea's modest size and status bought unparalleled success because of a generous owner willing to use money to buy glory. Now nation states like Qatar (Paris St-Germain), Saudi Arabia (Newcastle United FC) and United Arab Emirates (Manchester City) own football club as a form of soft power that includes financial doping as standard. It's an ugly situation but again, the soccer game is about glory, not money. Money is just the price you pay for experiencing success, sports-washing and/or raising on Oligarch or dodgy nation state's international profile. When Man City or PSG win a trophy or championship it should have a note next to the accomplishment signalling it couldn't have happened without the resources of a nation state being deployed for sporting or geopolitical purposes. Man City shouldn't be winning trebles, they should be battling bankruptcy. Chelsea should not be European Champions, they should struggle to fill their stadium with fans.
    I admire the organisation of American sports. I admire the presentation and the level of skill and athleticism. But American sport is definitely configured for profit and commerce, more so than soccer.

  • @dvidsilva
    @dvidsilva 17 днів тому

    Ted lasso is a documentary about this

  • @JBeesting3417
    @JBeesting3417 10 місяців тому

    This is an overly simplistic view of how sports teams operate. You use Abramovic at Chelsea as an example but the Glazers at Man Utd, FSG at Liverpool have all made enormous personal financial gains whilst the team lost money. Boehly thinks the Premier League is not maximising it's revenue, so he's bought the club and will expect to make big returns after a few years of ownership. The Saudi PIF will exponentially increase the value of these teams in a relative short period of time. The Glazers may be trying to pull out of the Man Utd sale because of this.

  • @qwertyuuytrewq825
    @qwertyuuytrewq825 10 місяців тому

    Does The Greater Fool Theory apply to Tesla stocks?

  • @user-vn6jw4fc6h
    @user-vn6jw4fc6h 9 місяців тому

    You could have touched on that most football(soccer) teams are not businesses but rather cultural institutions. Their endgoal is not to make money but to compete, so they dont have to worry about pleasing investors. They also dont really have to worry about going bankrupt since they are culturally so important so in case of bankruptcy the goverment will bail them out. And in order to compete with fan owned teams privately owned teams can't really be profitable.(Also the cultural significance of these clubs is the reason why they are bought my middle eastern goverments)

  • @ciro8861
    @ciro8861 10 місяців тому +1

    what about the team bought by ryan reynolds?

  • @newnewmee44
    @newnewmee44 13 днів тому

    i have no proof but i believe they also make money from betting companies. I think lots of game results are fixed. In my opinion sports is like WWE wrestling, just fake predetermined outcome entertainment. They pocket lots of money from gambling fools.

  • @philoslother4602
    @philoslother4602 27 днів тому

    Just buy them and sell them, it's an asset even if it costs a lot in 'maintenance'
    Edit: owning a team also helps you form very useful connections ;))

  • @syafiqkamalazmi
    @syafiqkamalazmi 9 місяців тому

    pent up demand?? more like the team has improved over the years.