Che bella che era Luna Rossa ...sul fatto estetico siamo sempre stati i più belli....quelle si che erano delle vere barche con le vele al vento con tutti gli scricchiolii che le vere barche tengono 🇮🇹
che peccato!!!!! questa era la coppa America!!! i Catamaranio sono noiosi e non sono spettacollari come i match race che peccato ci facevo le cinque la mattina per seguire i macht race!!
I watched this after seeing the latest races and have to say this is streets ahead for interest and ex citement. Do you think we will ever go back to these designs?
not with the Americas cup.. will these type of boats race again? I'm sure they may already but again Americas cup will most always be cutting edge boat design.
Queste erano regate....l’uomo, la sua forza, l’intelligenza, la tattica e la sua barca! I rumori delle corde stressatissime, le vele, il cambio delle vele, i commenti a bordo....cosa è rimasto di tutto questo? Nulla! Che peccato!
So good to hear PJ's salty voice again. We miss his passion, endless knowledge, experience, wisdom and humility. We are yet to see his equal. Hope he is enjoying good health and vitality.
These boats versus the foiling catamarans? Do I have to choose? The modern cats are amazing but these are actual sailboats. I can see what they're doing with their sail trim. The cats of today are like spaceships...super cool but not resembling anything I'll ever be able to sail. I love them both.
@@JoeJones-yx5be 0% it is wholly illogical. And not only that it's incongruous with reality to the extent that there isn't even a relatable emotional valance. There is no conceivable rationale to divide monohull from catamaran as though one is or is not a "sailboat". It's a complete nonsense.
I like the big mono hulls and hearing all the creaking, groaning and straining of the hardware and ropes against the wind and water. I wouldn't have a problem if they wanted to bring in more modern technology within this formula though.
This is apples and oranges compared to the nee AC game. Sail Trim and tactics can't be replicated in the new boats. If speed was the only thing that matter now race fans wouldn't watch anything but drag racing. Classic monohull match racing will Never die in the eyes of true sailors
The America's Cup isn't about match racing, it is just a match race format because it is only 2 boats. The America's Cup is supposed to be about a combination of design and skill, developing the best sailing program that your country can put together, monohulls don't fit this bill anymore. The America's Cup should be a box rule and with a nationality rule. We just need a defender to actually implement this.
@Angelous Bacon what part of "a perpetual challenge cup for friendly competition between nations" is difficult for you to understand? www.americascup.com/en/history
So nice to see this type of racing again. Modern day cats are certainly spectacular and exciting but so was this. It's like ODI cricket and a five day test cricket. The longer version is more pure. Modern day Americas Cup racing is synonymous with the average attention span of people today.
Non so cosa farei per assistere in diretta in barca a vela ad una competizione così importante....penso che le mille sensazioni che si proverebbero, sarebbe un libro di emozioni indescrivibili.....
@Despiser Despised funny you mention F1 - a sport I know pretty well. I'd argue the strategy in F1 is like monohull racing while the simple speed factor with multi-hulls is like watching drag racing.
Che limiti di vento e inda avevano questi? Ho visto dei filmati con le onde di 5 m ...andrebbero riportate! E' un rischio ma se vuoi andare + veloce e poi ti capita l' onda devi avere la barca giusta
yep last of the real sailboat races, did you see when they stopped before a start, both pointed and stayed in one direction, and backed up using the sails
in a museum ?? even vendee globe imoca monohull do have foils ! and they sail in the worst seas like the current tempest in the south indian ocean. so what s the point of those old fashioned boats, a part from nostalgia ??
With the slow boats there was still tactics. necessary. The new fast boats are won by the better logistics (material). Whoever invests more money wins the America Cup today
@@PeterAden. Totally. Went down 2 Mondays ago or is it 3 to Team Emirates dock and saw the boat. Extremely impressive. Worth the 3 stage bus journey. Cheers.
It depends on wind angle and strength. If NZ had clean air they would have been able to stay there and run over the top of Prada but they didn't and couldn't because they were getting dirty air off Prada's sails.
Funny to watch this now its like watching paint dry, still loved watching this racing, The modern yacht's today are like moto GP bikes
Quelle di oogi non sono vere barche, sono un'altra cosa, difficile paragonare
Yeah, the old races were really funny because were difficult and full of problem, now seems to see F1, boooring
Oh god the SGI graphics. I'm beginning to wonder if I'm getting old.
Great to watch sailors sailing and yachts yachting! Really tried hard to get in to the modern America’s Cup but it is soooo soulless.
Even though the new boats are amazing, I loved the old big monohulls
This is sailing. Today is fast windsurfing.
me too
I was 17th man for Prada 2003 vs Artemis...an unforgettable experience! Forza Prada 2021!
bobanyfingelf that’s awesome! i have only raced as big as a far 40 i cant imagine what it must be like on these magnificent boats.
Iuj
So proud... my uncle was on Prada here in 2000 america's cup
THese races are pretty exciting, i like the old boats, but from memory, the races were closer to 3 hours?
Che bella che era Luna Rossa ...sul fatto estetico siamo sempre stati i più belli....quelle si che erano delle vere barche con le vele al vento con tutti gli scricchiolii che le vere barche tengono
🇮🇹
Questo è lo sport più bello, e praticarlo è qualcosa di incredibile. Quante nottate davanti alla tv. Vai Luna rossaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!!!!!!!
che peccato!!!!! questa era la coppa America!!! i Catamaranio sono noiosi e non sono spettacollari come i match race che peccato ci facevo le cinque la mattina per seguire i macht race!!
They're all beautiful boats and incredible racing.
commentators are what really made this really exciting to watch. Peter Montgomery's voice and style is so unique, the Attenborough of commentating
Min 21:03.......espressione mortificata di De Angelis: é andata è !!! gesticolando con la mano come a dire questi non li prendi più
Proper Americas cup!!!
Love hearing all the names of the old Nz Sailing legends
Come 21 anni fa...non si molla un cazoooooo.🤦♂️👏💪 luna rossa.
This I can relate to! This is real sailing! Bring monohulls back!
They have. The new AC boats are monohulls
The KIWI monohull for 2020.
- war of the worlds have landed .!!!
ua-cam.com/video/7EqKjZgPv34/v-deo.html
Still love the mono hulls... But I've adapted to the new sailing in the AC.
I watched this after seeing the latest races and have to say this is streets ahead for interest and ex citement. Do you think we will ever go back to these designs?
not with the Americas cup.. will these type of boats race again? I'm sure they may already but again Americas cup will most always be cutting edge boat design.
No. The AC has always been about pushing the technology. They never go backwards
Queste erano regate....l’uomo, la sua forza, l’intelligenza, la tattica e la sua barca! I rumori delle corde stressatissime, le vele, il cambio delle vele, i commenti a bordo....cosa è rimasto di tutto questo? Nulla! Che peccato!
Hai pienamente ragione !!!!!
So good to hear PJ's salty voice again. We miss his passion, endless knowledge, experience, wisdom and humility. We are yet to see his equal. Hope he is enjoying good health and vitality.
Yes PJ's commentary really added depth to these races.
If you look at the history of any race, it is about going faster. Love the Cats!!! Drag racing now with 10,000hp. REALLY??? Yes, awesome.
The last and greatest monohull TNZ built and raced.
Thanks very much for the upload!!
Che peccato aver cambiato queste barche con gli ac75....indubbiamente l'Americas Cup ha perso il suo fascino...
These boats versus the foiling catamarans? Do I have to choose? The modern cats are amazing but these are actual sailboats. I can see what they're doing with their sail trim. The cats of today are like spaceships...super cool but not resembling anything I'll ever be able to sail. I love them both.
catamarans are still sailboats. I truly don't don't understand this line of reasoning
Yea you do@@weatheranddarkness
@@JoeJones-yx5be 0% it is wholly illogical. And not only that it's incongruous with reality to the extent that there isn't even a relatable emotional valance. There is no conceivable rationale to divide monohull from catamaran as though one is or is not a "sailboat". It's a complete nonsense.
These boats wouldn't catch on today genz would have lost interest before the boats crossed the start line.
I like the big mono hulls and hearing all the creaking, groaning and straining of the hardware and ropes against the wind and water. I wouldn't have a problem if they wanted to bring in more modern technology within this formula though.
When they had real boats and not the technological unseaworthy crap they using today.
This is apples and oranges compared to the nee AC game. Sail Trim and tactics can't be replicated in the new boats. If speed was the only thing that matter now race fans wouldn't watch anything but drag racing. Classic monohull match racing will
Never die in the eyes of true sailors
The America's Cup isn't about match racing, it is just a match race format because it is only 2 boats. The America's Cup is supposed to be about a combination of design and skill, developing the best sailing program that your country can put together, monohulls don't fit this bill anymore.
The America's Cup should be a box rule and with a nationality rule. We just need a defender to actually implement this.
john Handfield Speed is 'all that mattered' in this AC final. Superior boat speed for TNZ made this very one-sided.
@Angelous Bacon what part of "a perpetual challenge cup for friendly competition between nations" is difficult for you to understand? www.americascup.com/en/history
I fell asleep just after the start and woke up just before the finish....didn’t miss a thing
Displacement boats are much better. Real sailing!!!
In essence, today the America’s Cup is a different sport 😅
This is great match racing! Good times.
Nottate meravigliose,viva Luna Rossa
Back when there were real boats!!
Bring the mono-hulls back!
Monohulls were much prettier and less dangerous.
The monohulls are back =
KIWI tripods for 2020.
- war of the worlds have landed .!!!
ua-cam.com/video/7EqKjZgPv34/v-deo.html
Kiwis: "Done. See AC75!"
When the boats body still touches the water..
So nice to see this type of racing again. Modern day cats are certainly spectacular and exciting but so was this. It's like ODI cricket and a five day test cricket. The longer version is more pure. Modern day Americas Cup racing is synonymous with the average attention span of people today.
Someday the IACC class may be revived with its own events as the J-Class and 12-Metres have been.
con i catamarani hanno distrutto il fascino della coppa america, mi sono disinteressato totalmente
+vox regem Audisti
For English press one!
+Lawrence J
Press 2 for Google translate.
He was just saying that he thinks catamarans have ruined the America's cup.
Peter Aden
I agree if that is true................Thank you!
+Lawrence J You question the all knowing Google?!?! Get out you muggle!! lol
Although I'm still finding this AM cup quite interesting.
non e vero...ora, vanno piu veloce e piu forte!
Non so cosa farei per assistere in diretta in barca a vela ad una competizione così importante....penso che le mille sensazioni che si proverebbero, sarebbe un libro di emozioni indescrivibili.....
yeah lot better than the 25 min races now!!!
I dunno sure like seeing bone head stationary bicyclists from all over the world
Quando le regate erano belle da guardare con veri marinai
adesso troppa elettronica.
I use to enjoy seeing Skippy and Biff wreck their lower vertebrae turning those old Maytags with their collars up and creased triceps. What happened?
ho amato molto Luna Rossa..e..New Zeland..Oracle mi stava sul c...come mi stanno sul c....gli amerikani!!!
Much more 'REAL' sailing than what we have to watch today.
Writing from New Zealand. I so much prefer this racing as to the current Americas Cup.
Brividi ♥️
Remind me again why multi-hulls are better?
That's like asking why vanilla is better than chocolate or vice-versa-- it's up to individual taste.
@Despiser Despised funny you mention F1 - a sport I know pretty well. I'd argue the strategy in F1 is like monohull racing while the simple speed factor with multi-hulls is like watching drag racing.
@Despiser Despised all good man, each to their own. The multis are spectacularly fast.
@Despiser Despised agreed
Much faster, more spectacular.
this is propper sailing none of this flying crap
lol fuck up, this way boring compared to nowadays
Awesome response to K Wez! :) The foiling boats are far more entertaining to watch.
Yea that's why they have to add all the graphics, multimedia and Jamaican bobsled helmets
Che limiti di vento e inda avevano questi? Ho visto dei filmati con le onde di 5 m ...andrebbero riportate! E' un rischio ma se vuoi andare + veloce e poi ti capita l' onda devi avere la barca giusta
Comment was so much better then!
Wow they really keep those bicyclists down low I can't even see them!
Real sailing in real sail boats.
Nooo. Doing 45 knots in a 15 knot breeze... Show me that on a mono-maran
The KIWI monohull for 2020.
- war of the worlds have landed .!!!
ua-cam.com/video/7EqKjZgPv34/v-deo.html
@@mtl-ss1538 sp much for 2020. but the christmas race is still on apparently
Try 50 knots!
Prefer 12-meter boats, like Courageous and Intrepid.
yep last of the real sailboat races, did you see when they stopped before a start, both pointed and stayed in one direction, and backed up using the sails
Foils should be a different class like S1 (Saling 1) like the F1. Monohulls should remain sailing America's cup as the did for decades. Who agrees?
in a museum ??
even vendee globe imoca monohull do have foils ! and they sail in the worst seas like the current tempest in the south indian ocean.
so what s the point of those old fashioned boats, a part from nostalgia ??
AC75s are monohulls. Stop whining.
these were emotions, a real show to be enjoyed. What a nostalgy!
With the slow boats there was still tactics. necessary. The new fast boats are won by the better logistics (material). Whoever invests more money wins the America Cup today
@albertaristoteles7702 Team New Zealand has won it twice in a row with less money than they other teams.
@@PeterAden. Totally. Went down 2 Mondays ago or is it 3 to Team Emirates dock and saw the boat. Extremely impressive. Worth the 3 stage bus journey.
Cheers.
see yesterday's race and this makes us understand how fucking accelerating we are.
Progress!
I hope wee sailing also in Americas cup
Great to see the monohulls racing. Animal ❤
This next AC racers are a major YAWN. Mono-marans are great for cocktails and beer but .... when its time to go fast. Get a CAT or eat my transomes.
This comment did not age well!
Loyal? that didn’t age well did it
Intro seemed endless.
Love listening to Peter Gilmour commentate at this level.
Nice race
Team New Zealand is the real thing. The winners forever
3:35 heart
Ciao Prada ciao...... 😎
I do miss the match racing.
Oh, and the gennakers
ЛЮБО!
The boats look so old fashioned!
Why is prada shoe so expensive
So they can afford to build AC boats.
I was there. What a race!!!!!!!
i was there. great sailing. there is a Hienze ketchup boat somewhere in the the video.
wake me up when it's over zzzz
the commentators are wrong about half the shit they say smh
Got some examples?
@6:58 "they've got to tack away to get clean air" the're the bloody windward boat ffs
Go watch this video that explains how air bends off the sails in that position. ua-cam.com/video/TZJ8V2ABaGE/v-deo.htmlm15s
I get that, but that only would apply if NZ was right on the ass of prada. They aint, they're a boat length to windward.
It depends on wind angle and strength. If NZ had clean air they would have been able to stay there and run over the top of Prada but they didn't and couldn't because they were getting dirty air off Prada's sails.