The Greatness of Gintoki Vs Takasugi (Gintama)
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2017
- I don't know about you, but the Gintoki vs Takasugi fight is one of the most amazing moments i've ever watched in anime. So I thought why not talk about its greatness.
Let me know what you thought of the fight and let me know what other amazing moments in anime you would like me to talk about!
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I like how throughout the series, gintoki is slowly finding more reasons to live. I mean he probably wanted to take his own life after killing his sensei, but that would defeat the purpose of shoyos sacrifice. Gintoki was trapped in purgatory, neither alive or dead.
True. We didn't see it at first. We just saw a lazy ass man trying to pay his rent and take care of two kids. But when we *know* what happened. It so clear that Gintoki is slowly finding a new reason to live on. He was really ready to kill off himself in the flashback in Shinigami arc, in Kintama arc, and the second movie. He's ready to kill himself for the sake of others, but the others won't ever let him do that.
Kagura And shinpachi saved gintoki. All the characters in gintama are so amazing. There's layers upon layers of each character. And the gorilla is such an awesome writer
The last line is awesoms
That is why he have dead fish eyes as noted in the series
@@eagle3676 But sometimes he just wants to become a cheese steamed bread
After this arc, it was interesting to go back and see everything in a new light.
Like that time when Gintoki got amnesia and Yamazaki ends up working in the same factory. Yamazaki wonders if he's even the same person becuse he's missing that dead look in his eyes.
Because he forgot everything he did in the past 🤧🤧
This is why you need to at least watch Gintama twice.
As someone who's seen it twice in the past year, it's hella worth it, especially if you remember every small detail. Also, watching in a group makes it 10x funnier
I noticed that straight away, I think it was the first line mentioning his eyes that made me realise gintokis back story was much more than just a samurai. He forgot the things that made his eyes dead, so how could he have dead eyes if those memories and experiences aren't there anymore
Yeah. Maybe he was at war with himself at some point. He want to forget what he'd done in the past but at the same time it would be an insult to the people he knows and love. Because without them, he would not become the man he is now.
*Gintama is the most shounen of shounen jump series. It is literally friendship that saves Gintoki's life and gives him the blade of a human, instead of a monster. The only reason Gintoki is alive instead of dying is because his friends hold him back.*
7:35 Is the part that always gets me. We get the flashback of Takasugi saying "If I die, protect sensei", then the flashback of sensei telling him to protect the others.
By making one choice, he denies the other. He ultimately chooses to save the students and learns to accept that decision, but in this moment he doesn't hold back how frustrated he feels in being the one caught in an impossible situation.
What gets me every time is Takasugi, who yells back in turn, almost to say, "how dare you, you don't have the right to feel that way".
It's such an emotionally intense scene.
Exactly. It seems like gintoki chose takasugi and katsura, but that's not how it really was. Gintoki himself says that he didn't choose takasugi and instead chose shoyo, because he decided to honour his promise to shoyo instead of takasugi. Damn I love this show
I absolutely cried watching this whole arc. It was all so well written, and this fight was just the perfection of them all. It was telling everything that had to be told, the fight was simple in raw, but the meaning in every single detail, the reasoning for the whole fight and their own dilemmas, is what made it perfect. They came from different backgrounds, got attached to the same place and people, grew together with them, had to fight for it, had to sacrifice it themselves. Then after that, they had to move on. Great video btw. I think I'm going to write a poem based on this. I've seen this whole arc just a couple hours ago, and I loved it.
One of the biggest reason that this episode really hit me really hard and made me burst into tears is how Gintoki has grown in me for the past 300 episodes and made me really empathize with him. The time I spent watching Gintoki for the past 300 episodes made me feel what kind of person Gintoki really is. And as I was watching this episodes all I feel sadness knowing how it came to this moment as tears gush out of my eyes while watching Takasugi and Gintoki beat the shit out of each other...And also why is everyone sleeping on this anime this anime deserves more than what it deserves...
at ep 13 when he carry kagura and shinpachi,gintoki become my top 1 mc man.thats good how he is
All I remember when I recall this epic fight was the essay that was posted in Tumblr. It says that this fight signifies more than all their hatred and regrets. It also shows how much Gintoki and Takasugi meant to each other. That even if they're fighting to their death, in a way they are helping each other to get through their own demons. I hope I can find the essay. it was really profound
After watching the shogun assassination arc, it’s now understandable why Katsura was able to change unlike takasugi, takasugi wanted Gintoki to promise him to protect Shoyo but Gintoki broke that promise, along with the different backgrounds,
Katsura once had a family and could get the love he wanted from his grandmother, he had a place to belong and so for him Shoyo and Shouka Sonjuku was just a new home, but to takasugi, Shoyo was everything, he was one of the first people who cared about takasugi and he felt like he could belong somewhere now, but the world took that away from him, and now he was left with nothing
Like people said Takasugi is the contrast with Gintoki and what happened if Gintoki completely give up to despair instead of find his own purpose to live
With katsura I think the death of shoyo translated into a legitimate desire to improve the world coupled with anger, and that’s why he stayed as a rebel. He eventually realized that he didn’t need to use violence to accomplish his goal and that using violence wouldn’t make the world a better place since he would be hurting innocents. With takasugi i don’t think he ever had that desire for legitimate improvement so all he had was the anger he felt so he had no problem with using violence or any other means to accomplish his goal which was basically just the fulfillment of his anger by ‘destroying the world’
@@chrissquid yeah Katsura was started out similar to what Takasugi does but when he met Gintoki he starting to understand why he didn't join the rebel couple with when he met Ikumatsu and hear the story how her husband died he decided to renounce the violence method and try to find the peaceful way to overthrow Bakufu
kratosgow342 they started out doing similar things, but their reasons for doing them were never completely aligned i don't think
@@chrissquid yep and in Benizakura arc it was their last straw when they believed that Katsura get killed by Nizou so went all out civil war within rebel factions against Kiheitai (Takasugi's faction) doesn't help that Takasugi also make a deal with Harusame as well
The thing that hit me most is when Takasugi mentioned that killing himself wouldn't be enough so he went down the path he did to inflict the most pain to himself because it's what he thought he deserved.
something i've never seen people talk about is how Sorachi gets across character's emotions and thoughts. They are almost never said completely clearly outright, but are encoded in subtext as well as character expressions. It always amazes me how many emotions he can get across with only on panel of a character's face!
I know right. Sorachi sensei is amazing. Every character show their love by rough action and rough words but the feelings is so deep. Before I don't like rough and rude people. But watching Gintama make me observe people more. People action and feelings often don't match with their words. And from there I learn to be patience and less stiff. And incline to listen to two people side story and the solution rather than listen and lash out. Part of me is getting mature by watching Gintama and by extension Sorachi sensei.
For a shounen anime Gintama sure didn't scream, shreik when someone dies, like One Piece's Ace Death for example. Gintma is the superior anime with excellent writing.
Single best fight in any fiction media, change my mind.
How can i change your mind when you are spitting facts
before i saw this arc 2 nights ago i would’ve said obito vs kakashi but this fight does everything obito vs kakashi does but better.
@Prajwal Yadav Ha ha that's true, I never thought anything would surpass Gintoki vs Takasugi but it did. Gintama the Final was peakkk!
Only fight better is the final fight in the final movie Gintama somehow managed to outdo itself yet again with the final I didn’t think it could get any better after shogun assassination
facts but joe vs jose is on par imo
Gintama is more seinen than shounen in its raw depiction of the human condition. Thanks you so much for making this video.
That's not how this works lol. Shonen/Seinen is about demographics
What's the difference between the two? Seinen and Shounen?
Shadow One seinen is for young adults shonen is for young boys
Tutu Mazibuko I think they meant gintama Suits seinen more when it comes to depiction of the human condition
@@strifer2781 sure, but they're wrong since that's not how it works.
Wait, THAT face is what got you? What got me was Takasugi crying out, almost guttural...
"Why, why won't you avenge Sensei."
This question comes from someone who could only feel hurt and hate from not only losing Sensei, but temporarily seeing the sadness of his brother. This tragedy is why Takasugi was angry and hateful. Not because of his loss, but because he cares about Gintoki.
Possibly...
*More than anyone else.*
Finally, THIS! It's not just about that they lost Shouyou; death is a part of the war (obvious) and I'm pretty sure they knew well they might not win their sensei back. For Takasugi it was mostly about what was done to Gintoki; that they made him choose between his father figure and brothers and that he was forced to be the one who kills their family member in front of the others. Gintoki's pain was something Takasugi couldn't stand, not Shouyou's death itself.
And bc they were so close and they knew each other better than anyone, Takasugi is the one who understands Gintoki's pain the most. And since he saw the suffering Gintoki has been through, he felt he needs to punish himself bc he let this happen. Bc Gintoki's pain was in his mind his fault, bc he as well felt he failed in protecting everyone. Bc if anything, he should be the one who died that day. What he didn't seem to grasp was that killing him and Zura would bring Gintoki just as much pain. There was never a better choice.
So the only suitable punishment for Takasugi will be to go through the same suffering. He needs to kill Gintoki. Only this will bring him the same pain; killing someone he holds dear. Killing himself would never be enough.
In the end, what he always wanted to destroy was himself, not the world. It's terrifying how much these boys took on their shoulders to carry. And they were just kids.
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Also, in other words, they loved and cared for each other deeply. They mean the world to each other.
(PS. I apologize for any mistakes english is not my native language.)
@@ChinmiPL and however much ridiculous takasugi's mindset and thinking seems, it's actually very realistic cuz stuff like this also happens in real life
Absolutely beautiful video. This is my #1 favorite fight in all of anime, and I really think more people should be talking about it.
Hiatus x hiatus 😂😂
You could also make a video about Sasaki Isaburou and Shigeshige's death.
I am in the process of writing a script talking about the Sasaki death episode, but I've got a few other videos scheduled to come out before it. But one will definitely be up soon! And a Shigeshige video sounds interesting too
Looking forward to your next videos!Do you have twitter?
Not at the moment, maybe in the future.
Also oboro ...his story really touched my heart...😖😖
@@randomanimedude1301 dude, it's two years now
This episode hits different to me because i grow up watching gintama
I first watch gintama when i was 12 im 24 now
Waow
I was 15 years old when I watch Gintama. And now I'm 28. Watching Gintama give different meaning when you're an adult. At first, I didn't why Takasugi had done what he did. I though he was just the bad guy of the series. As I grown up, I understand now why Takasugi done that. He want retribution for himself. He want punishment fot himself. To allow Shouyo died. What hurt him the most is to allow Gintoki to be in a situation where he had to cut Shouyo, their beloved teachers head off. It showed how much pain Takasugi feels when he still remember clearly Gintoki's crying face even when war was over 10 years ago. That battle is battle for two broken men pour their pent up rage, sorrow, anguish, sadness to each other. I cried watching these man fight like they were real.
I started reading Gintama circa 2008 when I was a teenager, stopped around the time of the Four Devas Arc and finally finished the whole thing last year as a 30-year-old. This episode hit so hard and I'm lucky it wasn't spoiled for me in all that time. It really was like seeing a childhood friend's darkest moment after over a decade of knowing them.
I cried..just woww
This anime series has made me cry and laugh more than any other anime ... It's genius!
Some people only see gintama as comedy anime but gintama has some of the best arcs ever
I wouldn't call that scene surprising. There's quite a long gap between us hearing the ultimatum and it actually happening. The second we do, we piece together what's about to occur and, just like Takasugi, are forced to watch it play out, slowly and letting the inevitability of it sink in.
Interesting point of view. To me I could definitely tell what was about to come once we heard the ultimatum, but at the same time I was kinda thinking to myself that there was no way Sorachi would actually go that far and do some like that. That's why I was so shocked when it actually happened. My brain kinda just rejected the potential of it actually happening when it first showed up.
I mean, to be honest I thought Shoyo died because they "did not manage to save him from the enemies". I never thought the real reason Shoyo died was that Gintoki was forced to kill him so that his friends could live.
Hmm for me personally... i figured it out that would be happen but i denied like... "nope, no no no, that's not it, it's gotta be something else! Other reason, nooooppeeee" so yeah... i'm surprise bcs this is actually happening 🧎♀️
Great video, such a great fight.
Well after the final movie I think it’s even greater
Thank you for this!It is great!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you soo much❤️😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭why i can't stop crying 😭😭😭😭❤️Wonderful video❤️❤️
one of the most underrated fights
Hi bro just wanted to point out that you're work was also pretty amazing and if you ever think of making another video then I'll definitively watch it. Idk if you would read this but you're amazing, good luck with all in live!
Really hope you make more videos , these videos are great.
maaaaaaannnn, i cried watching this video loved it absolutely loved it
So much love for the discussion and anime
thanks for this vid
I cried.
Great video 🔥
I know this is from like 4 years ago(and you only have 1 upload xD), but jesus i would love if ya done things like this for more of gintama, hell even other shows
One of the greatest fights in anime
Great video
Thank you so much!
If anyone want to start watching gintama, there's just one thing....even though the first 50 episodes is mainly about comedy, you can't skip it cause you might get confused about the main supporting characters
Why is this show so underrated?????
Coz people quit before watching the first 50 episodes and call it boring.... tbh it does get a bit boring if we keep binging, till we get to the first serious arc (Benizakura)
Even i started gintama, watched 30 or so episodes and thought that there's no point in continuing if it's gonna be the same comedy for the whole time, then dropped it for a year.... watched 30 more again and once benizakura arc finished, gintama became my priority...
have to be specific underrated in the west in Japan this anime is consistently in top 3 best anime ever made
Actually if you go to MyAnimeList, a very famous anime site, and go to the top anime section, you'll see that it's literally littered with gintama. Gintoki is also considered one of the best shonen protagonists. While I agree it's not as popular as maybe Naruto or one piece, people know gintama is a top quality animr
@@srivikas1834 me to after watching first 10 episodes i was let down then i searched for gintama's reviews and after watching a couple of them i decided to complete the whole series and i watched it all in around 21 days , at it was worth it
i love gintama so much
come back please 😢
i was not ready for the music at the start ☠️
8:07 zura janai katsura da...
Well apart from that good, very good video...
I love how Takasugi still calls him Zura as well even after all those years of pretending to be the bad guy. "Don't be a general, just be Zura with us" I believe is how Gintoki worded it. All the little details along the anime suddenly has so much meaning and grips your heart.
Katsura janai...ZURA DAAAAAAAA
Idk why but this vid on my recommended.
Where did you go man...
True
Please make more videos!
8:12 it's not Zura, it's katsura
Please come back
You prob don’t use this account anymore, but if you do happen to see this, please, I wanna know what happened to your Re:Zero episode 15 video?I loved it and it’s what got me to finally finish Re:Zero after dropping it around ep 12. And now it’s like my favorite anime and have been reading the light novels and I’ve rewatched it like 10 times (Not even joking).
What happen to this channel?
@@fikriadiza123 idk, I only know about the re:zero vid, but something weird was after I had watched the vid a few months later it popped up in my recommended again, but the thumbnail was a random picture of comic book joker… yeah idk. Well I checked the vid again the next day because I remembered the thumbnail looking the same as his others and the vid was gone. (This was like a month ago, might’ve been more) I swear my brain is weird, idk why I just thought about this right now
Well gintoki had already fought an army of yato. Takasugi was at full health. So gintoki is stronger.
True
Well if Gintoki didn’t have that jump book when takasugi stabbed he wouldn’t survive
@Linh Dương Gia thats something that couldn't be changed.. Gin could have wielded a metal sword..
@@abdulhamidsalad4198 but he did 😬
Hiatus X Hiatus LOL
👏👏👏👏
2:06 is this cut from a mastered version or something? I remember it looked worse. Also I wish that SS arc was animated like gintama 2006 or 2015. The fight with Utsuro would be just awesome with better animations and some more choreography but their butget by the end was...there was no. Btw great video :D
the utsuro fight from “the final”?
Well... if you talk about final movie... it less choreography not bcs their have no budget left... they following what manga did... and it's pretty awesome without many crazy moving and blood splash. It shine with their own way.
Oh also... the transition made it even better... chef kiss from me
So..quick question. Do i start Gintama. I always thought it was only comedy.
I recommend you to watch it, but if you are used to watching fast paced shounen anime like naruto, you may get bored as the series moves very slow. The first season is mostly comedy and focuses on introducing the characters but there are some serious arcs that is great. The approach in watching GinTama is to not binge watch it and treat it as a sitcom, try watching at least 3 eps per day. The serious arcs comes very late.
@@chippylady8425 not very late. I will say that the plot/serious arcs get good at yoshiwara in flames arc. And the main plot starts in courtesan of a nation
You get one pass my guy don’t call it hiatus x hiatus again my friend thank you
Hiatus X Hiatus fan triggered
Lolololol, "Hiatus x Hiatus", lololol
Do Gintoki vs Utsuro
You only uploaded one video ;-;
Maybe he delete his video
So i think the best swordsmen in the series are gintoki, takasugi, and zura right?
Mhm.
Also....
*Zura Ja Nai. Katsura Da.*
I had to. lol
Yagyuu family, Shinsengumi big four, Mimawarigumi too imo
@@FerroDGmng well yes but they can't win 1 on 1 against them right? Cause i remember hijikata got 1 shotted by gin, and then gin fought yagyuu in technically a 2v1 while protecting shinpachi
It's shoyo/utsuro my guy
Takasugi vs gintama is better than naruto vs sasuke
It's way better. As far as emotions and themes and the general friend vs friend goes this fight is 10x times better.
Yeah, because no superpower
but who is gintama
Hi, what happened to your video "The Greatness of Re:Zero Episode 15 'The Outside of Madness'"? I really enjoyed your analysis of the episode in that video, but UA-cam says it was deleted. Is there somewhere else I could watch it?
Just don’t disrespect Gintama by comparing it to Narutrash, thank you!
Which episode is this
305 i think
I find the fight is pretty less interesting compare to other fughts in Gintama
Dont get me wrong Gintama is my favorite anime EVER
This is the best fight in gintama and it's not close
Who the fuck is Takazuki?
Lol, its takasugi
Most overrated fight ever. People refer to it as if it's the ONLY freaking fight that ever exists.
No, why you said its overrated
Not overrated in the slightest