I'm an older gay guy who wants you to know that your sensible, rational yet fun attitude to life is awe inspiring. I've been through some of the questions you have been asked and worked them out for myself. You're conclusions are a lot more understanding than mine and I congratulate you on your plain old common sense! Love from UK. x
Wow, that was a lot of questions, and it definitely looks like a lot of editing. Thank you for putting in what must have been a lot of work. Every time I hear your perspective on what you do and how you think, I am stunned by the beauty in its simplicity. And that is what I love most about your videos. Happy New Year to you and Hayden and your family, both blood and chosen relatives. Wishing you a beautiful 2020.
Just being you, keeps you close to God. Let no one tell you that you have to be different than who you are. Great to see you again Joe! Hope you guys had a great Christmas and wish you both the best New Year ☺👍
Hi bro. Joseph. I'm old enough to be your grandfather. When I wore my PFLAG Pride braclet to church, members who I thought were friends no longer spoke to me etc. God will still love you completely. Do what is necessary to remain commited to Him and yourself. Only you can make yourself happy. xo
Happy New Year to you and Hayden! Thank you for answering all of my questions, did not expect that. I thought you were going to pick maybe one. You have a very soothing voice btw. You could probably make asmr videos if you wanted to. Take care
You have a unique perspective in the community, I personally am so glad you're here and get to share your experience with us. :) also ASMR would be great bc you can attract that whole audience as well lol.
Thank you for an open and honest response to the questions. I feel that a church is not going to save you but your own relationship with your lord is what matters. Keep being you and keep up the good work in your videos.
Happy New Year Joseph happy to see your back and hope to see more videos myself and my partner got married in August 2018 great video can't wait to see the next one love ya ❤🌈🎊🎉😘
OMG, I would MELT if you did ASMR Videos.........and I think you would make many many people very very happy if you did.......your whole personality is very soothing and relaxing.......Much Love to you !
So refreshingly honest. I'm sure a help to others in any community going through similar situations. You are so right...God is the judge and loves us for who we are and what we become....Be kind to others..it is important...Blessings...
Hey, good to see you finally. Happy New Year! Love Hayden, look forward to seeing him. You look really tall, are you? One thing about coming out is to see how many other gay people there are in this world. There are billions of us, that really helps. We might have more gay people in our families than we know also. I did. Joseph, don't stay away so long. Thanks
Wow... you are wise beyond your years, and I don't even know how old you are! Thoughtful, insightful, and compassionate... impressive. Hope you achieve the same degree of happiness that you wish for others.
Thank you for your videos Joseph, it helps a lot. I am a gay 31 year old muslim who is trying to come to terms with his sexuality. Guilt and self-hatred were and to a significant extent still are things I have to deal with on a daily basis. Watching your videos makes me feel much more accepting of myself. Just you being you and posting it makes a difference for all of us out there.
I literally just saw your coming-out story video yesterday and I Got a notification about your new video today and I wasn't even subscribed! That's crazy! However, you have a new subscriber! ☺️
New here love the video your a smart beautiful young man. I grew up in the catholic church will never stop foot in it or any instationlized religion my God is with me always In the way I live my life being open tolerant forgiving respecting this planet helping others as much as i can no I'm not perfect but my god I hope will forgive me in the end.i will always support you here thanks your voice is so relaxing much love to you.
I hope you keep your relationship with God. Good responses to the questions. Informative responses as well. As you say do not worry about you. Live your best life and be fulfilled. You have a warm personality. You take care. You are helping people and you do not realize it.
omg u do not need a church to feel close to God, just take a walk in the garden of life and u will see God all over, even a simple flower and the beauty of it has Gods hands on it. Blessed be.
I'm subscribing today! You seem so genuine and an honestly nice guy. Do you really edit out 90% of the video? This one almost seemed like a lot of short clips cobbled together.
I started taking cold showers to lose fat and for conditioning..( I lost 30lbs. Thank you Tim Ferris & Wim Hof.) The cold showers had a few unexpected side effects. It lowered my blood pressure, helped my mood (a lot)….and significantly cleared up my rosacea. I highly recommend them. Spend time focusing on your face when you take the shower. 8 min, per Tim.
You need to be true to who you are and realize you need to continue to go to God and continue your prayer life with Him. It sounds like your family loves you which so many other people do not have..I was impressed by how much you love your family and love being.an uncle! I think you have found a good partner/boyfriend in Hayden Stay strong and br true to yourself and lean on your faith
You offer good advice about just being a good person. You often mention the open mindedness of people. This shows a different era or maybe I'm just still scared.
I definitely feel like open relationships and anything other than monogamy are a lot harder to come by, but also I agree that very few people want long term relationships, I am biased tho bc I’m young and it feels like no one wants to settle down just a little bit haha
Rules regarding PDA apply equally to both gay and straight - discrete expression of affection is totally okay. You are a great person and you are entitled to be happy. I think you are very cool, you have a great personality and intellect.
Joseph, You are a very wise young man and have given very wise advice in this video. You are a great role model and represent the gay community very well. Really enjoy your videos.
I'm so happy for u both bc of ur good reactions and feelings about being together❤ but i have a big and imp question; how can i find the right person who i attract on and trust on him????? Pls answer me; i cannot hide my sexuality anymore.
Go to the dr. for metrogel for your rosacea. You had good advice. I'm old, and I am sure other young gay guys will benefit. You are definitely an inspiration.
A great video from a great person. I personally left the church because all the guilt factors seemed to emanate from what man has inputted into religion. But if you want to belong to church, there are gay-friendly churches that you can find... just Google it.
Wow, I know this is an older video but I to was a member of the LDS church. Back in my 20's I lived in Idaho and I had a lot of my friends that were Mormon. I talked to missionaries and honestly made the decision to get baptized and join the church. It really all felt right but I did know I liked guys but I wasn't out and still joined the church. I am a lot older now and have moved back to the east coast and I am still not out except to one person. I still have people from the church come do home visits and check up on me and they try to get me to go to church. There are a lot of good and kind people but I just can't go back to the church because I know in my heart that it would be a huge lie to go and to pretend to be someone I'm not. The one person I came out to is gay as well but he turned on me. I just thought coming out to him would give me a friend that I could be myself around and just talk to about stuff. It's really hard 😪 keeping this secret bottled up inside me with knowone to talk to. I have severe depression as well. But I admire you for coming out and just being yourself
There are different ways to keep in touch with God through prayer, the Bible, good works. The church is a good connection, but I believe as long as you have him in your heart & soul no one is truly lost, or alone, Trying to catch up with your videos. You would be great as a social worker.
Depending he may need to seek help for Religious Trauma Syndrome. And no for those that want to start using that as a club it has a very specific meaning. The simple explanation of RTS is that past religions experience *CAN* (not is) be a source of PTSD. The most obvious example of this would be an overwhelming fear of hell or in the case of mormons outer darkness after one stops believing in hell/outer darkness. And before some random commenter says "being afraid of hell when you don't believe in it doesn't make sense". If PTSD is either hyper rational or hyper irrational. If you grow up in an environment where you are constantly receiving the message that you are broken (at best) and that there is something fundamentally wrong with you. And you hear this message both actively and passively for 18 years... you more than likely have at least a little trauma you need to resolve even if you are no longer subjected to that and haven't been for a while.
I found a song when your dad was bishop called “God and Me” by Teri Clark. Google the lyrics...it helped me make peace with who I was and the religious culture we come from. It helped me soooooo much! So much love to you and your fam! (This is Joy A, btw). ❤️
your awesome!!!!, i find gay scene sex, bar and club driven, being raised LDS It was never my scene. You would look awesome in Drag, it was very hard to deal with that fight between God and Love. Was scouting very tough and tempting?
Joseph, can you tell me how I could find a gay guy that I can talk to and ask about how I could be a normal gay guy. I don't know any guys that I think are gay so it's really hard for me to find a friend to share my life and wits with. I really do love your site and I hope you never quite posting your thoughts because it really helps me out.
Joseph, I also came out to be authentic and honest with myself. I am 64 and came out 1 year ago after 50 years of denial, shame, fear and loneliness. In many ways I am a teenager gay person in an old man's body. There are many churches out there that accept LGBTQ+ people. Glad to know you still have a relationship with God. You don't need the church for that.
Thank you for saying that you support whatever makes people happy, whether they decide to stay in the church or leave the church if they're gay. I feel like many people in a church setting aren't supportive of a homosexual lifestyle, and many people in the LGBT community aren't supportive of gay people living according to the teachings of a church that prohibits homosexual behavior. I don't know how true that actually is, but I'm sure it's a fear a lot of religious gay people have.
@@josephgarner94 It is about 2 missionaries who fall in love and what follows in the years after. Very moving. What about Latter Days? Have you seen it?
@@josephgarner94 Not sure my reply got posted. It is about two missionaries who fall in love and what follows in the years after. One of them is the son of an apostle (actually one of the sons of a current apostle is gay). It is very moving. Also, have you seen Latter Days?
Joseph, we've "talked" very briefly before. I wish you would make an effort to meet the British boy videographer, Ben Morris. I think Ben is at the top of his craft in both Britain and America. He also is an incredibly engaging and kind personality. Please do seek him out. Let me know if you connect with Ben. You both will benefit.
Off topic, but I've watched a bunch of vids by younger gay guys and encounter 'skin care routine' questions frequently. OK, I'm old: 'skin care routines' for guys didn't exist when I grew up. Soap, water and some Clearasil until you got past it. Guys, gay or not, were guys. You played sports, mowed lawns for pocket money and could change the oil in your car. Then again, you also didn't date guys until you (wisely) went off to a pretty big school near or in a major metro area :)
I know plenty of people who are gay and religious. While growing up gay and Mormon presents its share of obstacles, you should still be able to have a healthy relationship with God. The Church is just a conduit for that anyway. For the record, I'm a lapsed Catholic, but that's because I realized I just didn't need religion in my life at all. It's different for everyone.
My coming out took time and some conflict. But I am fully comfortable now. I still go to mass and receive communion as a Catholic. The Bible says if you're a leper, you should stay outside the city walls and shout "Unclean" if anyone approaches you. Of course, no one today thinks that's correct. Why can't our knowledge of human sexuality evolve too? In the days of the Jews and the early Church, they needed everyone to marry, procreate and raise as many children as possible. They could be wiped out otherwise. Today, that's no more an issue than shouting "Unclean" once was. We can be gay and not feel any guilt.
Joseph, don't forget that not all the branches of Christianity are homophobic. I belong to the United Church of Christ, an Open and Affirming church. All are welcome, accepted and loved.
As an agnostic who does not believe in the supernatural and with a rich spiritual life what I am going to say is more than likely going to be controversial. What most people are looking for is a particular emotional experience which can be brought about by a number of ways but is usually dependent upon ones aesthetic taste which is usually but not always shaped by childhood. Think High vs Low Church. I know most people don't think of it this way but Mormonism is actually High Church masquerading as Low Church. Someone coming from a High Church background often finds it difficult to find what they are looking for in a Low Church environment while someone coming from a Low Church environment often finds High Church to be stiff and stifling. Both settings are ritualistic the only question is how formal and tight the ritual is. In many ways it's about finding replacements that work for you. I believe Salt Lake has a Sunday Assembly that is modeled on Ward experience though that may have changed.
Well I'm a Ministrant (that's German, I don't know the English Word) and a Catholic and I support LGBTQ+ It's sad that the church divides Humanity into Straight and not Straight. :(
Just think, you said mark e miller was your LGBT (I forget) anywho, younger gays will be watching you and they will get in abundance, a great and beautiful guy that they can look up too. ALSO thanks for introducing me to friendzone!! ✌️❤️
Love how thoughtful and genuine you are. You have a soothing voice.
Perfect for ASMR !
I'm an older gay guy who wants you to know that your sensible, rational yet fun attitude to life is awe inspiring. I've been through some of the questions you have been asked and worked them out for myself. You're conclusions are a lot more understanding than mine and I congratulate you on your plain old common sense! Love from UK. x
You have very pretty eyes.
Wow, that was a lot of questions, and it definitely looks like a lot of editing. Thank you for putting in what must have been a lot of work.
Every time I hear your perspective on what you do and how you think, I am stunned by the beauty in its simplicity. And that is what I love most about your videos.
Happy New Year to you and Hayden and your family, both blood and chosen relatives. Wishing you a beautiful 2020.
You are an amazing young man, and you have obviously been through a lot. I enjoy your videos.
Joseph, you are a great joy! You're wonderful! (Please, no ASMR!)
I really apreciate that you're open about your relationship with God and the church. Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.
Just being you, keeps you close to God. Let no one tell you that you have to be different than who you are. Great to see you again Joe! Hope you guys had a great Christmas and wish you both the best New Year ☺👍
Hi bro. Joseph. I'm old enough to be your grandfather. When I wore my PFLAG Pride braclet to church, members who I thought were friends no longer spoke to me etc. God will still love you completely. Do what is necessary to remain commited to Him and yourself. Only you can make yourself happy. xo
You are so perfect, sharing your view and feelings help a lot of people that are less fortunate. Love you!
Consider me SUBSCRIBED! Just discovered your channel and I love how real and honest you are...A truly relatable kind of guy!
You are a brave and beautiful young man. I appreciate your complete transparency!
Happy New Year to you and Hayden! Thank you for answering all of my questions, did not expect that. I thought you were going to pick maybe one. You have a very soothing voice btw. You could probably make asmr videos if you wanted to. Take care
You have a unique perspective in the community, I personally am so glad you're here and get to share your experience with us. :)
also ASMR would be great bc you can attract that whole audience as well lol.
I just came across your videos through the rabbit hole that is youtube. Thanks for being so genuine!
Thank you for an open and honest response to the questions. I feel that a church is not going to save you but your own relationship with your lord is what matters. Keep being you and keep up the good work in your videos.
Happy New Year Joseph happy to see your back and hope to see more videos myself and my partner got married in August 2018 great video can't wait to see the next one love ya ❤🌈🎊🎉😘
thanks for the vid....it is nice to see u back and I want to wish u the best for 2020......
OMG, I would MELT if you did ASMR Videos.........and I think you would make many many people very very happy if you did.......your whole personality is very soothing and relaxing.......Much Love to you !
I'm glad youtube gave me this and your coming out video. You seem cool, you have a new subscriber :)
I loved the ASMR part at the end I could not stop laughing! Please do an ASMR video
I second that :)
So refreshingly honest. I'm sure a help to others in any community going through similar situations. You are so right...God is the judge and loves us for who we are and what we become....Be kind to others..it is important...Blessings...
Joseph I truly admire you. Listening to you as you articulate your feelings...very nice these days with all the attempts to dumb down people!
Hey, good to see you finally. Happy New Year! Love Hayden, look forward to seeing him. You look really tall, are you? One thing about coming out is to see how many other gay people there are in this world. There are billions of us, that really helps. We might have more gay people in our families than we know also. I did. Joseph, don't stay away so long. Thanks
And I loved your Moho video. I didn't find it sad at all. It was a brave and honest thing that you did.
Wow... you are wise beyond your years, and I don't even know how old you are! Thoughtful, insightful, and compassionate... impressive. Hope you achieve the same degree of happiness that you wish for others.
Omg the being a more likeable person after coming out... I agree on so many levels😌
Joesph you answered some good questions in this video hope your holidays were going and hope you have a and your boyfriend have a great year!
Thank you for your videos Joseph, it helps a lot. I am a gay 31 year old muslim who is trying to come to terms with his sexuality. Guilt and self-hatred were and to a significant extent still are things I have to deal with on a daily basis. Watching your videos makes me feel much more accepting of myself. Just you being you and posting it makes a difference for all of us out there.
Joseph, Happy New year to you and Hayden :)
Happy new year filled with love to both of you. Kisses
I literally just saw your coming-out story video yesterday and I Got a notification about your new video today and I wasn't even subscribed! That's crazy! However, you have a new subscriber! ☺️
New here love the video your a smart beautiful young man. I grew up in the catholic church will never stop foot in it or any instationlized religion my God is with me always In the way I live my life being open tolerant forgiving respecting this planet helping others as much as i can no I'm not perfect but my god I hope will forgive me in the end.i will always support you here thanks your voice is so relaxing much love to you.
I hope you keep your relationship with God. Good responses to the questions. Informative responses as well. As you say do not worry about you. Live your best life and be fulfilled. You have a warm personality. You take care. You are helping people and you do not realize it.
You are a very enlightened and well spoken young man,
omg u do not need a church to feel close to God, just take a walk in the garden of life and u will see God all over, even a simple flower and the beauty of it has Gods hands on it. Blessed be.
Yes, and God is not a he, maybe a they?
Love you Joseph. Live your life, follow your interest, make you happy! 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
Omg the tingles at the end. Yes, do an ASMR video! :D
You are so lovely and insightful. I’m a Christian and I’ve always been afraid to date guys. You give me hope! Xx
I'm subscribing today! You seem so genuine and an honestly nice guy. Do you really edit out 90% of the video? This one almost seemed like a lot of short clips cobbled together.
Some very good advise.
I started taking cold showers to lose fat and for conditioning..( I lost 30lbs. Thank you Tim Ferris & Wim Hof.) The cold showers had a few unexpected side effects. It lowered my blood pressure, helped my mood (a lot)….and significantly cleared up my rosacea. I highly recommend them. Spend time focusing on your face when you take the shower. 8 min, per Tim.
Thank you very much
Flawless as always love
Please do the Conjoined Twin Challenge! That would be funny :)
You need to be true to who you are and realize you need to continue to go to God and continue your prayer life with Him. It sounds like your family loves you which so many other people do not have..I was impressed by how much you love your family and love being.an uncle! I think you have found a good partner/boyfriend in Hayden
Stay strong and br true to yourself and lean on your faith
it's been nice hearing some of your videos on UA-cam
You are not the only person and you are not alone.
PDA in public like holding hands and holding each other is cool too.
Hello handsome boy. I love you from vietnam
You offer good advice about just being a good person. You often mention the open mindedness of people. This shows a different era or maybe I'm just still scared.
I definitely feel like open relationships and anything other than monogamy are a lot harder to come by, but also I agree that very few people want long term relationships, I am biased tho bc I’m young and it feels like no one wants to settle down just a little bit haha
Joseph I wish you to have a very great new year in 2023. May you have every wish come true in 2023. With all my love 💓💘❤💕.
Thank youtube for letting me find this channel , hi from south korea,
Rules regarding PDA apply equally to both gay and straight - discrete expression of affection is totally okay. You are a great person and you are entitled to be happy. I think you are very cool, you have a great personality and intellect.
@ Joseph , maybe you can do another coming out video, with the positive things you have learned.
He is just too cute!!!
What hair product do you use?
Joseph, You are a very wise young man and have given very wise advice in this video. You are a great role model and represent the gay community very well. Really enjoy your videos.
I'm so happy for u both bc of ur good reactions and feelings about being together❤ but i have a big and imp question; how can i find the right person who i attract on and trust on him????? Pls answer me; i cannot hide my sexuality anymore.
You are so cute
Go to the dr. for metrogel for your rosacea. You had good advice. I'm old, and I am sure other young gay guys will benefit. You are definitely an inspiration.
Just love yourself and live your life the way u want to. Be happy.
A great video from a great person. I personally left the church because all the guilt factors seemed to emanate from what man has inputted into religion. But if you want to belong to church, there are gay-friendly churches that you can find... just Google it.
Wow, I know this is an older video but I to was a member of the LDS church. Back in my 20's I lived in Idaho and I had a lot of my friends that were Mormon. I talked to missionaries and honestly made the decision to get baptized and join the church. It really all felt right but I did know I liked guys but I wasn't out and still joined the church. I am a lot older now and have moved back to the east coast and I am still not out except to one person. I still have people from the church come do home visits and check up on me and they try to get me to go to church. There are a lot of good and kind people but I just can't go back to the church because I know in my heart that it would be a huge lie to go and to pretend to be someone I'm not. The one person I came out to is gay as well but he turned on me. I just thought coming out to him would give me a friend that I could be myself around and just talk to about stuff. It's really hard 😪 keeping this secret bottled up inside me with knowone to talk to. I have severe depression as well. But I admire you for coming out and just being yourself
Happy New year 🎉
There are different ways to keep in touch with God through prayer, the Bible, good works. The church is a good connection, but I believe as long as you have him in your heart & soul no one is truly lost, or alone, Trying to catch up with your videos. You would be great as a social worker.
I agree with therapy , I am not sure that guilt is good. Care about other and not wanting to hurt it reasonable.
Depending he may need to seek help for Religious Trauma Syndrome. And no for those that want to start using that as a club it has a very specific meaning. The simple explanation of RTS is that past religions experience *CAN* (not is) be a source of PTSD. The most obvious example of this would be an overwhelming fear of hell or in the case of mormons outer darkness after one stops believing in hell/outer darkness. And before some random commenter says "being afraid of hell when you don't believe in it doesn't make sense". If PTSD is either hyper rational or hyper irrational.
If you grow up in an environment where you are constantly receiving the message that you are broken (at best) and that there is something fundamentally wrong with you. And you hear this message both actively and passively for 18 years... you more than likely have at least a little trauma you need to resolve even if you are no longer subjected to that and haven't been for a while.
I adore you so much
Creepy reply of the day, You have lovely eyes buddy.
beautiful eyes!
Joseph you are the best!
I found a song when your dad was bishop called “God and Me” by Teri Clark. Google the lyrics...it helped me make peace with who I was and the religious culture we come from. It helped me soooooo much! So much love to you and your fam! (This is Joy A, btw). ❤️
Yes to ASMR!
Yes
I’ve recently learned what ASMR is so now I vote you gotta do every vid in a HUSHED tone. Thanks.
Well not every one.....but I´m sure you have a natural talent making relaxing videos, as your normal videos are already relaxing !
your awesome!!!!, i find gay scene sex, bar and club driven, being raised LDS It was never my scene. You would look awesome in Drag, it was very hard to deal with that fight between God and Love. Was scouting very tough and tempting?
Happy new year
Joseph, can you tell me how I could find a gay guy that I can talk to and ask about how I could be a normal gay guy. I don't know any guys that I think are gay so it's really hard for me to find a friend to share my life and wits with. I really do love your site and I hope you never quite posting your thoughts because it really helps me out.
Joseph, I also came out to be authentic and honest with myself. I am 64 and came out 1 year ago after 50 years of denial, shame, fear and loneliness. In many ways I am a teenager gay person in an old man's body. There are many churches out there that accept LGBTQ+ people. Glad to know you still have a relationship with God. You don't need the church for that.
"To make it hard"
black screen
sweet naive me hmm ... oh wait 🤦🏾♂️😂
Happy New Year🥰🥰
7:05 i cant--
Your red cheeks are adorable
Thank you for saying that you support whatever makes people happy, whether they decide to stay in the church or leave the church if they're gay. I feel like many people in a church setting aren't supportive of a homosexual lifestyle, and many people in the LGBT community aren't supportive of gay people living according to the teachings of a church that prohibits homosexual behavior. I don't know how true that actually is, but I'm sure it's a fear a lot of religious gay people have.
You are the best. Have you seen The Falls Trilogy?
I haven’t, whats it about?
@@josephgarner94 It is about 2 missionaries who fall in love and what follows in the years after. Very moving. What about Latter Days? Have you seen it?
@@josephgarner94 Not sure my reply got posted. It is about two missionaries who fall in love and what follows in the years after. One of them is the son of an apostle (actually one of the sons of a current apostle is gay). It is very moving. Also, have you seen Latter Days?
Hello❤💛💚💙💜
Hi I’m just here to say yes to the ASMR video lol
😂😂😂
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Joseph, we've "talked" very briefly before. I wish you would make an effort to meet the British boy videographer, Ben Morris. I think Ben is at the top of his craft in both Britain and America. He also is an incredibly engaging and kind personality. Please do seek him out. Let me know if you connect with Ben. You both will benefit.
You could also watch the videos of Joel Wood (Joel and Lia, Joel Wood, Two Brits). Joel's a gay Christian. UK
Off topic, but I've watched a bunch of vids by younger gay guys and encounter 'skin care routine' questions frequently. OK, I'm old: 'skin care routines' for guys didn't exist when I grew up. Soap, water and some Clearasil until you got past it. Guys, gay or not, were guys. You played sports, mowed lawns for pocket money and could change the oil in your car. Then again, you also didn't date guys until you (wisely) went off to a pretty big school near or in a major metro area :)
I’m bisexual and I’m still active in the church 🤷🏾♂️
@Jefferri Andrews , does the church treat you well? I am Jewish, they treat me well.
I’m not out
I know plenty of people who are gay and religious. While growing up gay and Mormon presents its share of obstacles, you should still be able to have a healthy relationship with God. The Church is just a conduit for that anyway. For the record, I'm a lapsed Catholic, but that's because I realized I just didn't need religion in my life at all. It's different for everyone.
My coming out took time and some conflict. But I am fully comfortable now. I still go to mass and receive communion as a Catholic. The Bible says if you're a leper, you should stay outside the city walls and shout "Unclean" if anyone approaches you. Of course, no one today thinks that's correct. Why can't our knowledge of human sexuality evolve too? In the days of the Jews and the early Church, they needed everyone to marry, procreate and raise as many children as possible. They could be wiped out otherwise. Today, that's no more an issue than shouting "Unclean" once was. We can be gay and not feel any guilt.
Joseph, don't forget that not all the branches of Christianity are homophobic. I belong to the United Church of Christ, an Open and Affirming church. All are welcome, accepted and loved.
As an agnostic who does not believe in the supernatural and with a rich spiritual life what I am going to say is more than likely going to be controversial. What most people are looking for is a particular emotional experience which can be brought about by a number of ways but is usually dependent upon ones aesthetic taste which is usually but not always shaped by childhood. Think High vs Low Church. I know most people don't think of it this way but Mormonism is actually High Church masquerading as Low Church. Someone coming from a High Church background often finds it difficult to find what they are looking for in a Low Church environment while someone coming from a Low Church environment often finds High Church to be stiff and stifling. Both settings are ritualistic the only question is how formal and tight the ritual is.
In many ways it's about finding replacements that work for you. I believe Salt Lake has a Sunday Assembly that is modeled on Ward experience though that may have changed.
At 7:27 I think that was just some creepy person... it sounded not very innocent lol
Well I'm a Ministrant (that's German, I don't know the English Word) and a Catholic and I support LGBTQ+ It's sad that the church divides Humanity into Straight and not Straight. :(
I'm german too but i don't know the word ministrant
@@jannik2869 Echt? Sagt dir Messdiener mehr?
@@unwichtig1048 ja das sagt mir was
the word is minister i believe
@@Svangen1 Basically the guys that help the priest. I don't know if that's just a German thing.
Loved the video. No ASMR thanks.
Just think, you said mark e miller was your LGBT (I forget) anywho, younger gays will be watching you and they will get in abundance, a great and beautiful guy that they can look up too. ALSO thanks for introducing me to friendzone!! ✌️❤️
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