Hello! There seems to be some misconception here among some commenters that I wanna clear up. Building a cube is not easy, hence why I link to a ton of cubes in the description that I enjoy the design of (or made myself) for you to try, and then encourage you to edit them to your desires. This video is for CASUAL players, not necessarily NEW players (though that being said I try to make it as new-player friendly as possible; I don't want to scare them away from trying something just because its hard). TLDR: You can be a casual player with a lot of magic experience. This video is primarily for that audience. also I still like commander, I just like cube more
My biggest issue with cube is that when trying to get someone to try my cube, it feels like I’m trying to convince them to listen to my mixtape or something lol
Yeah for this reason i'm more likely to just steal a cube list from someone else to start :p at least i can blame someone else if it sucks! and playing it should help learn what i want in a cube and what's good design etc
Hi! I’m the owner of one of the cubes in the description. I’m very surprised that my silly little cube is down there, thx for sharing it! It’s now called the Expedition Cube if anyone’s wondering.
I appreciate so much that you made this video. You put it all so well. Cube made me fall in love with Magic again. I've spent years gradually building a large cube of purely "pre modern" cards (Arabian Nights through Scourge) with as much graveyard-matters synergy as I can afford in every color. I also designed a couple dozen custom commanders for the cube; as an optional game mode for group play. It has been such a blast to brew and test... brew and test... All within a time-capsule of the era of Magic I love most. I feel so lucky for the joy of every time my friends and I have made a late night out of it. P.S. Cube is a perfect home for gold-border (world championship reprint) cards if your LGS doesn't allow them in "sanctioned" commander games!
A friend of mine made a cube with no white and 12 copies of Unexpected Potential. It wasn’t a particularly great format, but I had to respect the vision
Hey snail, nice seeing you here. A thousand curses upon you for getting me into doing mtg UA-cam. Your friend has an *interesting* lens into the hobby. I’m about to play an abzan cube with friends soon which i like to think is what the opposite of what your friend did.
Honestly it almost sounds like Cube has the potential to fill the role that Commander used to fill- a haven for cards and playstyles unmoored from the product cycle, outside of looking for fun new stuff to enhance your game
I started playing a local cube group while I'm in the area for a short time with a good buddy of mine and it's been really fun! As much as I love EDH I love the challenge of drafting a good deck, whether in Cube, Pre-releases, or other limited formats. It helps me figure out some fun deckbuilding stuff for EDH too. And there's silly stuff that happens like yesterday when I staved off a turn of death by paying 4 life to Dismember a Blightsteel Colossus that was stolen from me so I wouldn't immediately die. I still died next turn 'cause my deck was hot garbage but it was still a great time.
Something I've been playing around with a lot is building jump start packs instead of cubes. Very similar reward in curating your own experience, in a more familiar environment of basically building mini decks, even if it means I gotta go even easier on multicolor than I did on my cube. Also, to anybody building a cube, I can not recommend looking at the draft matters cards from conspiracy enough.
Cube is my favorite way to play Magic by far. It feels like it touches every aspect of the game - drafting, deck building, varied gameplay, and collecting. You get to keep or reject exactly as many WotC mistakes as you like - and you get to define what’s a mistake! So good.
I just finished building my first cube last week. It's a mess, made of bulk and chaff I had laying around. From the first play of it was rough and made me question my decisions and several oversights I made during building... I love it. I'm eager to refine it into something I'm really proud of. I don't think there's a better way to experiment all the best things this game has to offer.
@@Nat1Games Thanks! At this point I have no idea what balance means anyway^^ most of the problems stemmed from clunkiness in the draft part due to poor foresight on the design (too many double pip cards, weird tension around the graveyard theme because I thought cards that reward a big graveyard and delve/escape would meld well together, some cards that signaled nonexistent or barely functionnal themes...), but that first test gave me a much clearer idea of what direction to go. And also, it gave me at least 3 more ideas for future cubes^^
@chemnao4009 if you ever do want to copy a cube I HIGHLY recommend Dev's Old-School Cube from StrictlyBetterMTG. I have that one built card for card and I have my Chaos Cube, which is tons of my favorite/just good cards. They aren't exactly built into archetypes but you get some insane combinations of cards when you're not trying for an established thing.
Ornithopter is one of my favorite cards, i was so happy when i built my baba lysaga so it would have a home, and the idea of running any amount of them in a cube experience, I'm sold
@33elk very nice, almost fast mana in a sephara build, i love that card for affinity, land, ornithopter springleaf drum was my favorite line play in affinity
Me and my best friend have been balancing university and working on a custom cube filled with about 60-70% original cards for the better part of the last 7 months, I couldn’t agree more, making a cube has both drastically improved my sense of what is powerful and what is fun and what is enjoyable to play with and against. Great video.
3/3 elk, you have done it again you magnificent forest creature. i miss playing cube so much - my high school friend group used to have a commander cube we threw together years before the existence of commander legends (not sure i would recommend this), and later we tried to build a cube using entirely custom cards (i would recommend doing that, it's a fascinatingly difficult project and gave me a ton of insight into what it's like to build a limited set). currently i'm working on a shadows over innistrad set cube as well as a cube full of the bad cards from my dad's collection that will likely never see the light of day otherwise (looking at you thorn thallid and merseine). as for the proxy conversation - i think that cubes are the best place (re: least controversial) to include them! i've heard of people disagreeing on proxies at commander nights, but i've never seen or heard of someone complaining about proxies in another person's cube. considering the popularity of the powered vintage cube, i find them to be incredibly commonplace. phenomenal video, can't wait for the next one!!
Today I learned you're still allowed to say Commander isn't your favorite format on the internet! Joking aside, cube is my favorite way to play too. I've actually been experimenting with custom Jumpstart-style play as well, to partly bridge the constructed-limited gap.
I made a cube once of a really meat and potatoes draft environment that wasn’t budget but didn’t really lean towards powerhouse arctypes either. I meticulously spent like 30 hours honing it to be as balanced as possible and all my friends really enjoyed it and it was probably one of the most fulfilling/fun experiences I've had in magic. I'm currently like 3 years into working on a "damaged" cube where all the cards I get are heavily played or worst conditioned and its opened me up to a lot of interesting cards and stories attached to them. Ironically though, the cards usually saved that are in horrible shape are the ones that are the most expensive to begin with so it's been a slow grind. I've also thought about dabbling in custom conspiracy cards and alter arts and cards with stickers, stuff that stretches the "damaged" label but showcases the creativity and character that come with the physical play experience of magic!
Somewhat ironically, I think Nadu would make a great card in cube. I think he hits a nice sweet spot when making him a strong value engine card, while asking that you actually build around him if you want real value. You can also ensure that the most egregious combo piece cards are intentionally excluded, and can balance him much more based on what cards can enable him in the card pool. He’s absolutely a big design mistake, but there’s no doubt that part of that comes from the massive card pool available in constructed formats, while in draft or cube he’s more of a controllable presence
"Broken cube" where all the cards in the cube are the worst designed value monsters ever but they lack the synergy that make them good i actually agree with you btw i love nadu in LSV cube rn
@@33elk Have you ever heard of LRR's "Strictly Worse" cube? It was a joke in Friday Nights, where you draft the worst deck for your opponent to play, and all the cards are strictly worse versions of other cards, or have very little to no synergy with anything in the cube. Eye of Ugin? No eldrazi in the cube. Common Cause? Symmetrical buff that doesn't work in most cases. Frazzle? 4 mana counter nonblue spell. Plague Rats? There's only one. Tahngarth's Glare? Let's your opponent index the top three cards. Falling Timber? Fog one creature for 3 mana, two creatures if you also sacrifice a land. Darksteel Relic? Does nothing.
1. enthusiasm for magic..... check 2. huge collection to draw from... check 3. excitement to try cube...... check 4. Three people willing to hang out with me and play.......ummmmm.....🤔🫤🥹😭😞 I like your video, though!
My friend made a Magpie Cube (look it up there's an article) and it's really fun! Basically it's a cube that evolves over time with player input. Players can bring a card each draft to add to the cube and you also draft stickers which let you permanently modify cards. At the end of the night each player who's not top 3 gets to pick any card to cut up as a balancing factor, and the top 3 pick prizes that let them modify the cube in cool and unique ways, such as extra powerful stickers or taking the remains of cut up cards and gluing together a new monstrosity. I really love it, personally I'm trying to slowly add defenders and defenders-matter cards to the cube to make it a real archetype >:3
We actually tried something I like to call "bulk brawl beatdown!". The gisst is that our lgs has a huge collection of give away bulk cards in the basement that players leave. So my idea after watching one of cardmarkets videos where they have to build a deck on a timer was: all players have 15 minutes to rumage through the bulk piles *at the same time* in order to build a 60 card deck (basics are provided). All cards players set aside when going through the bulk must be used in their deck and there is not limit on quantity of the same card. Winner gets to keep their deck! Which ... Well they could either way as the cards are free lol but its the thought that counts
The commander legends draft experience was one of the most fun experience my group had with commander. So we build a dnd adventures in the forgotten reals cube. I love seeing commons and shitty cards shine. Its so much fun seeing overlooked cards take the spotlight. It really changes the experience for the better.
My buddies and I went through 4 boxes of commander legends, with each box paying for the next. Definitely the mist fun I’ve had playing draft or commander
Man, that was a revelation! Thanks so much. My friends and I had these issues with Commander for a while, and Cube could fix it. I'll definitely try it with my group.
Hello! hard to imagine you're making a video promoting cube without being familiar with Lucky Paper and their podcast Lucky Paper Radio, but I want to shout them out on the off chance anyone had not heard of them! I love their passionate perspective on cube as an expansive, expressive creative medium and for their insistence that cube can be so so much more than powered vintage. The free ornithopter cube reminded me of Andy Mangold's "100 ornithopters" cube, where the only creatures are the 100 ornithopters in the cube list. A completely different take on the same premise :) Anyway, yay cube, always happy for more voices advocating for cube
I love cube! I built a 600 card one to ensure that certain cards aren't always drafted and to also prioritize just a ton of different archetypes without losing on consistency as a whole. It's also a great way to understand deckbuilding as a whole. If anyone is just starting one, playtest it multiple times! A cube is never perfect after the first playtest and there's always going to be that one card that does too little or too much, and it's up to you to see whether that's the intent that you want to have with such a card. Personally my favorite thing about cube us that it let's me play banned cards!
Cube, battlebox, or boardgame boxes of a 5+ decks balanced against each other. Having one person create a mini metagame will usually lead to more fair magic than putting people’s collections against each other.
THIS!! i made a battlebox a while back and anytime i meet up with friends they always ask to play. the time save and convenience of not needing to draft or everyone not needing a deck makes it so easy to just pick up and play. also the land system in battlebox means there is never a nongame
@@bnutter9559 i am thinking about making little 40 card block decks, like optimized draft decks, maybe following a 3 rare / mythic, 19 common/uncommon structure or something.
I've maintained a Peasant Cube for about 8 years now. I love playing it and discussing it with my friends. The joy of Mulldrifter, Battle Screech and Rancor is real 😊
I recently built my own peasant cube. Such a fantastic choice!! It’s opened up such a brilliant opportunity for high synergy/mid power magic. Feels very nostalgic and is a welcome change. It actually made me somewhat interested in new sets and I’m only looking at 10c commons and uncommons instead of the chase rares and mystics. Also it promotes buying singles :)
Cube!!!!! I've been wanting to have my own cube for a while, and this week I decided to finally get my first cube into a testable state It's a bit of an unusual cube as it basically tries to recreate the video game Inscryption using Magic cards, so I've essentially made huge modifications to the Magic rules for this purpose
@@0rolon Small update, still working on getting the cube's rules into a coherent document, I've been running the cube IRL by just memorizing the ruleset but I can't just share our brainwaves lol
The timing on this video is funny because I was thinking about making a cube for my play group very recently. And you’ve sold me on it, now to brainstorming on how to make the cube I want with a bunch of old janky cards 🤔
I endorse talking about Cube. Cube is how me and my friends have been playing for the past couple years we started with just two and now we have like four of them between all of us so we can play a bunch of different formats. It's great and always fun, "This pack is nuts!" every time, haha!
ALLRIGHT! Now you've earned my sub! I aleady LOVE cube and have the EXACT same sentiments! More people should be playing cube and enjoying magic at their own pace! I've built a 100 card tiny cube where players build 20 decks an obvious commander cube a zombie cube that weighted towards black more than any other color where I designed all the partner commanders and built the flavor of the plane as if it was my own set. chaos cube where you just open booster packs and replace sets, for a friend, as a gift planning on an eldraine flavor cube and a innistrad commander cube! (commander not required obviously but fun to draft around) Had the idea of building a 3 card blind cube too- I strongly agree that this is the place where you can look at the heaping piles of pet cards that get cut in commander or cards you just love resolving elsewhere and can freely toss them right into the cube. You also didn't mention designing your own cards and making signpost or archetype support cards that dont exist yet- if you are a fan of that kind of thing!
Another great video from you... Your videos have been really impressive!. Personally, I've started proxying. Not only do I save money and not support Wizards, but making alters (like Universes Within versions) of my cards feels great and like great creative expression. I just make sure that my deck is it a fair power level for the group I play with, and there's no issues at all. Cube sounds fun to build too! I think I'd start with just a set cube because that feels easiest to make.
I 100% agree with proxying and alters. UB makes me sick to my stomach sometimes, and there are always examples of bad art, so alters are a breath of fresh air.
Literally made a 1v1 winston cube a week ago. It's started from 6 packs of March of the Machines bc I wanted there to be battles, but is also incorporating the card-editing aspect that you see in Magpie cubes/unfinity cubes.
My playgroup made a cube and included many proxies so we can play with whatever cards without worrying. We do 60 cards and auto include command tower, arcane signet, and command sphere. We tried sol tong but decided it just turned into "whomever draws sol ring turn 1 wins".
Ive been blessed enough to have an lgs where people play low powered commander so no one has to keep up with new powerful things. As for Cube, I have created the Morph Cube, and ruled 0 that both morph and Disguise have Ward 1 together to prevent differences. Only problem is I havent been able to convince any of my friends to try it out lol
It's funny how I'm usually someone that despises Limited (I tend to build a "solid" deck and then lose to my opponents 3 bombs), and yet here I sit with a proxied up cube after this video once or ten times. And maybe I even get to test it tonight...
i myself have a cube with a lot of my favourite cards and am working with my friends on a "mishra's bauble" based cube with all archetypes working with it. it is my favourite format of all time definetly too
I will also add that there is a weird myth that people believe. For some reason, people think of cube as only 8+ people experience. Cube can be such a diverse format that allows for any number of people so long as the cube is accommodating. Granted, I still can't convince a pod of 4 to not just defualt to commander. Finding a group of friends you can play it with is worth the effort though. Dont be afraid of reaching out to your lgs for cube night. Dont be afraid of trying to sell people on at least trying to cube. Its worth it c:
My play group has agreed to play cube with me, I just need to put it together. I really want to expand them to modern or vintage so I'm proxying a power 9 cube to show them what other formats have to offer, I'm super excited about it
I love the idea of a cube draft followed up with a 4 player game, but my friends consistently snub any attempts at playing limited when we have a bunch of unopened product (sealed OR draft).
yeah that's rough, have you tried guilt tripping your friends into doing it on a special occasion like your birthday, and then throwing the draft so that your friend wins so that he's more likely to agree with it in future? :^) in all seriousness though, maybe just talk with him ask him if he'll try it out once? iunno. Worst case ig you can winston draft with one of your other friends :)
@@33elk I did actually guilt trip a non-magic friend into playing a starter set with me and had great success throwing the matches, with the goal of keeping the drama and tension of the match rather than winning every game. Went over splendidly.
I've played draft before. I've even done progressions drafts in Yu-Gi-Oh. Still I'm not sure if this fufills what me and my group like out of mtg, in fact we dont really worry about new cards that much we dont tend to instantly go for upgrades or things out of a new set. That said maybe we will try a cube? Idk
A Cube idea ive been thinking about and brewing is the "bargains and bladeblessers" deck. Its namesake nezumi blade blesser and the eldraine bargain mechanic. The cube will care about owning both artifcats and enchantments to enable your creatures or to sacrifice to bargain effects (i plan to have no creature sacrifice and for it to be about managing these trinkets and objects for effects) but im torn between this cube and also building a bloomsburrow cube as that looks fantastic as a limited enviroment with good support for decks that are not just the main archetypes
I'll be trying a vintage cube that my lgs has proxied the next time it rolls around. Commander is great but I am getting fatigued by it. Thanks for the recommendation!
I think that the challenge of Cube is time commitment. I know there can be 5 hour long games of commander for sure, but between explaining the archetypes of the cube, drafting the decks, building the decks, pairing off and playing games, waiting for other games to finish. The reason I'm always "ehhh" when a friend suggests playing their cube over the normal edh night is because now we are no longer playing a multiplayer game with everyone, and I know that set up time is going to take close to an hour, or more, and in that time we could've gotten through an EDH game. Not to say Cube isn't a fantastic way to play magic, and I actually agree with the idea that cube is the best way to bring new players into the game, but it's a tough sell as a direct EDH replacement. Great relaxing video none the less! Your Elk and vibes are so chill!
I mentioned multiplayer cubes in my video! Its an incredible way to play if you don't want to split up into 1v1 games. It really doesn't take much longer than an actual game of commander if you have life totals be 20ish and play with a cube that incentivizes combat.
I made a commander cube at the start of the year because one person in my playgroup played really ruthlessly and never honestly represented his decks. With a cube it meant we could all roughly match power, have no bad surprises and stop power creep over time
I don't think I can bully my pod into playing a list of cards that only I approve of. It's a neat idea but it has some conceptual issues. I could see this format working as a board game or when one player owns all the cards, but in the groups I play in people like to bring decks they made at home and that is a cool mechanic that I only get with constructed play magic. Playing cube would make me wonder why we weren't just playing Dominion instead.
a good way to try and convice your friends to play floating around is that the winner of the draft gets to make swaps to the cube so all of your friends get to contribute to building a cube that is right for the table you can set a grace period too for when counter swaps are allowed like "no swapping a card added in the past 5 iterations of the cube" suddenly people wanna play your cube a ton to add their own flair to it haha
I like the idea, I'll take a crack at it but I don't' really know where I'm gonna go with this. Lets see if I can convert some more of my friends with this hehehe.
I LOVE cube! I was introduced to it 10 years ago by my friends who made a Yugioh cube. I won and loved the design and they said they got the idea because of mtg cube. For my birthday I just finished my entire cube (minus Sheoldred. We’re proxing her until she gets under $50)
While I don't think you're entirely wrong (even though I don't agree the aforementioned pain points of edh, but that's really a playgroup thing more than anything else) to me cube introduces its own set of problems that at least to me really hamper it's potential as a casual mode. For one there's a lot more setup involved. You can't just pick a deck and start playing, you have to sit down and draft for like probably at least twenty minutes before you can start playing. And what do you do if someone shows up and wants to play after you're done drafting? Shuffle up and draft again? This also becomes a problem if you just plain don't like the deck you made, what do you fo then? Tell everyone to start again? Draft on your own? Just not play? On that note something that matters to me a lot that cube can't provide is self-expression. I want to play my decks with all the cards I hand-picked, and in cube that's just not the experience I'll have unless it's my cube, but that just means everyone else is in that position instead. And finally I think cube is a pretty bad starting point for new players. Commander is admittedly kind of a bad start as well? But there is a world of difference between trying to build a draft a deck for the first time and buying a precon and sitting down at a table with it. It's how a lot of regulars at my locals got started. I'm not trying to say one format is better than the other, just that they're different. What they have in common is that they're really adaptable and can be many different things to many different people, and I think that's very neat.
Some of the most fun games of cube I’ve had is when i think the deck I have is awful but i try to win with it anyway and end up surprising myself. Cube has plenty of self expression too. You don’t get to pick the card pool but you do pick what you think is the best card for each pack. Someone also offered the idea of a cube where the winner gets to make swaps to the list which is a fun way of getting your playgroup involved with the cubebuilding process. Cube and commander is definitely not a good starting place for players you got that right, but even still you could build simple cubes with easy to understand cards so drafting doesn’t mindblast your friends with tons of rulestext.
Kind of a similar situation, but I've really loved building Dandán, and my own variants, like a minute no red one built around risk factor and other conditional burn spells
I designed a cube for Megaplex one year and everyone who played it said it was the best draft format they've played. Of course, it helped that I let everyone keep the cards.
I have been dreading the direction of Magic, vocally, for months lmao Thanks, this is a great idea and much easier to introduce than my idea of getting them to try sealed or standard
I think a "jumpstart" cube would be the best approach for my own tastes. I like agency over what deck I'm playing, which draft doesn't help to facilitate (not that I don't totally get the appeal, I do like me a roguelike where you make do with what you got). Jumpstart-style hits right in the middle of having a selected card pool while also giving agency over what style of deck you're playing that night. Though there's less exploration of that space I think. Even if not Jumpstart style, I do kind of wish there was a cube-style thing for those of us that aren't the biggest fan of drafting (not that proper cube shouldn't exist of course)
My gripe with draft like formats such as cube is that it takes multiple hours just to get a deck set up, with my playgroup it can take like 6-7 hours just to set it up. If I wanted that experience, then I'd just sit home and brew more decks. One format I'm curious about though is wizard's tower; shuffle all of the packs and lands from a gift bundle for a deck that everyone plays from.
I love draft and I love cube, too. The main problem is getting enough people to play a proper draft. That being said, Winston drafting or pancake drafting with just you and one other person is also great! So if you watched this video and want to play cube, know that you can do it with just one other friend! 🤗❤️
@@33elk Definitely! The 5 packs of 9 cards is what I would go with too :) Also your channel is very inspiring! I just posted my first videos too recently and you doing so well with just a few uploads is highly motivating ❤️🤗
Cube has been one of my favorite formats in any card game. Even card games that aren't pack draft friendly, like Pokémon, are excellent in cube. I want to eventually try a Magic Cube even more after watching this video. Possibly, building my own cube would be spectacular.
I've just built my first commander deck and haven't actually gotten to play the format yet. Finding out that a lot of folks are trying to find a new format right as I'm trying to get into it is both a little disheartening and very funny
Don't be disheartened. Some of the negativity against commander is that it's popularity is a double-edged sword. A lot of MtG players like to play more competitively, while just as many want some casual fun. Lack of a consistent way to balance power level / vibe at a table is the most common problem, and I think that's driving discontent. If you find a good LGS or playgroup that can match what you want out of EDH, the problem is much more minimal.
Cubes are my favorite way to play the game. I love draft but there are some sets that just go really well with others that weren't anywhere near eachother, like both of the Eldraine sets.
Cube and draft are so awesome At my university's mtg club, one of the guys had an uncommon cube which i thought was cool. Only cards that were printed at uncommon at some point Wish I got to play it more, but uni studies took precedent over draft night 😢
I've actually heard of cube before and have been curious to play for some good time. Need to find someone with a cube to try or maybe I eventually get enough cards to start my own
Hey Elk. glad to see another video. Your voice sounds a lot more natural this time around. I will say the static grey background is a bit…bland. I don’t know if it is an aesthetic choice but if it is, it might be nice to have gradient and some particles just to add a bit of flow to your default screens.
I definatly want to build a cube because i got introduced to magic this summer through draft and cube is just a replayable draft format only problem is finding people to play it
It's a little cumbersome, but MTG Forge is useful for building and playtesting a cube with AI opponents. I made a cube that was a mixture of pet cards, high powered good stuff, ways to cheat bomb cards out, as well as cards banned in other formats. We're talking OG Braids, NPH Elesh Norn, Monster Manual, Ragavan, Channel and all sorts of other junk mashed into one experience. It's super swingy as hell and I have fun with it.
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Hello! There seems to be some misconception here among some commenters that I wanna clear up. Building a cube is not easy, hence why I link to a ton of cubes in the description that I enjoy the design of (or made myself) for you to try, and then encourage you to edit them to your desires.
This video is for CASUAL players, not necessarily NEW players (though that being said I try to make it as new-player friendly as possible; I don't want to scare them away from trying something just because its hard). TLDR: You can be a casual player with a lot of magic experience. This video is primarily for that audience.
also I still like commander, I just like cube more
My biggest issue with cube is that when trying to get someone to try my cube, it feels like I’m trying to convince them to listen to my mixtape or something lol
omg uve described my weird feelings about my cube the most succinctly, thx mate
LOL that’s a funny comparison but if you’re convincing everyone of a rule 0 every week then it’s kinda the same thing.
True.
I tried convincing some friends that Mario the Gathering was worth playing, they did not take me seriously. :')
Same, basically you are letting others into a part of you. Naturally it would hurt if they don't like it.
Yeah for this reason i'm more likely to just steal a cube list from someone else to start :p at least i can blame someone else if it sucks! and playing it should help learn what i want in a cube and what's good design etc
Hi! I’m the owner of one of the cubes in the description. I’m very surprised that my silly little cube is down there, thx for sharing it! It’s now called the Expedition Cube if anyone’s wondering.
I appreciate so much that you made this video. You put it all so well.
Cube made me fall in love with Magic again. I've spent years gradually building a large cube of purely "pre modern" cards (Arabian Nights through Scourge) with as much graveyard-matters synergy as I can afford in every color. I also designed a couple dozen custom commanders for the cube; as an optional game mode for group play. It has been such a blast to brew and test... brew and test... All within a time-capsule of the era of Magic I love most. I feel so lucky for the joy of every time my friends and I have made a late night out of it.
P.S. Cube is a perfect home for gold-border (world championship reprint) cards if your LGS doesn't allow them in "sanctioned" commander games!
A friend of mine made a cube with no white and 12 copies of Unexpected Potential. It wasn’t a particularly great format, but I had to respect the vision
Hey snail, nice seeing you here. A thousand curses upon you for getting me into doing mtg UA-cam.
Your friend has an *interesting* lens into the hobby. I’m about to play an abzan cube with friends soon which i like to think is what the opposite of what your friend did.
This guy is gonna love Bloomburrow, its got snails!
snail is here!!
@@33elktalking about abzan, my cube is a Tarkir block cube, which I made because I started playing magic during the time those sets came out
I don't get it
Honestly it almost sounds like Cube has the potential to fill the role that Commander used to fill- a haven for cards and playstyles unmoored from the product cycle, outside of looking for fun new stuff to enhance your game
Exactly!!
I started playing a local cube group while I'm in the area for a short time with a good buddy of mine and it's been really fun! As much as I love EDH I love the challenge of drafting a good deck, whether in Cube, Pre-releases, or other limited formats. It helps me figure out some fun deckbuilding stuff for EDH too.
And there's silly stuff that happens like yesterday when I staved off a turn of death by paying 4 life to Dismember a Blightsteel Colossus that was stolen from me so I wouldn't immediately die. I still died next turn 'cause my deck was hot garbage but it was still a great time.
I only draft hot garbage. I die quick, but look great doin' it.
Something I've been playing around with a lot is building jump start packs instead of cubes.
Very similar reward in curating your own experience, in a more familiar environment of basically building mini decks, even if it means I gotta go even easier on multicolor than I did on my cube.
Also, to anybody building a cube, I can not recommend looking at the draft matters cards from conspiracy enough.
what are the draft matters cards?
Alright you've convinced me 😅
Now to pitch to my playgroup!
Cube is my favorite way to play Magic by far. It feels like it touches every aspect of the game - drafting, deck building, varied gameplay, and collecting. You get to keep or reject exactly as many WotC mistakes as you like - and you get to define what’s a mistake! So good.
I just finished building my first cube last week. It's a mess, made of bulk and chaff I had laying around. From the first play of it was rough and made me question my decisions and several oversights I made during building...
I love it. I'm eager to refine it into something I'm really proud of. I don't think there's a better way to experiment all the best things this game has to offer.
I assure you you're doing it exactly correctly. Anyone who tells you they have a balanced 'correct' cube is a nerd who copied a list.
@@Nat1Games Thanks! At this point I have no idea what balance means anyway^^ most of the problems stemmed from clunkiness in the draft part due to poor foresight on the design (too many double pip cards, weird tension around the graveyard theme because I thought cards that reward a big graveyard and delve/escape would meld well together, some cards that signaled nonexistent or barely functionnal themes...), but that first test gave me a much clearer idea of what direction to go.
And also, it gave me at least 3 more ideas for future cubes^^
@chemnao4009 if you ever do want to copy a cube I HIGHLY recommend Dev's Old-School Cube from StrictlyBetterMTG. I have that one built card for card and I have my Chaos Cube, which is tons of my favorite/just good cards. They aren't exactly built into archetypes but you get some insane combinations of cards when you're not trying for an established thing.
Ornithopter is one of my favorite cards, i was so happy when i built my baba lysaga so it would have a home, and the idea of running any amount of them in a cube experience, I'm sold
I run it in sephara
@33elk very nice, almost fast mana in a sephara build, i love that card for affinity, land, ornithopter springleaf drum was my favorite line play in affinity
Don't forget Phyrexian Walker and Sphere Shield.
Look up lucky paper radio 100 ornithopters, you will not be disappointed!
Baba Lysaga is the best!!! I also run it in mine
Me and my best friend have been balancing university and working on a custom cube filled with about 60-70% original cards for the better part of the last 7 months, I couldn’t agree more, making a cube has both drastically improved my sense of what is powerful and what is fun and what is enjoyable to play with and against. Great video.
3/3 elk, you have done it again you magnificent forest creature. i miss playing cube so much - my high school friend group used to have a commander cube we threw together years before the existence of commander legends (not sure i would recommend this), and later we tried to build a cube using entirely custom cards (i would recommend doing that, it's a fascinatingly difficult project and gave me a ton of insight into what it's like to build a limited set). currently i'm working on a shadows over innistrad set cube as well as a cube full of the bad cards from my dad's collection that will likely never see the light of day otherwise (looking at you thorn thallid and merseine).
as for the proxy conversation - i think that cubes are the best place (re: least controversial) to include them! i've heard of people disagreeing on proxies at commander nights, but i've never seen or heard of someone complaining about proxies in another person's cube. considering the popularity of the powered vintage cube, i find them to be incredibly commonplace.
phenomenal video, can't wait for the next one!!
Today I learned you're still allowed to say Commander isn't your favorite format on the internet! Joking aside, cube is my favorite way to play too. I've actually been experimenting with custom Jumpstart-style play as well, to partly bridge the constructed-limited gap.
I made a cube once of a really meat and potatoes draft environment that wasn’t budget but didn’t really lean towards powerhouse arctypes either. I meticulously spent like 30 hours honing it to be as balanced as possible and all my friends really enjoyed it and it was probably one of the most fulfilling/fun experiences I've had in magic.
I'm currently like 3 years into working on a "damaged" cube where all the cards I get are heavily played or worst conditioned and its opened me up to a lot of interesting cards and stories attached to them. Ironically though, the cards usually saved that are in horrible shape are the ones that are the most expensive to begin with so it's been a slow grind. I've also thought about dabbling in custom conspiracy cards and alter arts and cards with stickers, stuff that stretches the "damaged" label but showcases the creativity and character that come with the physical play experience of magic!
Somewhat ironically, I think Nadu would make a great card in cube. I think he hits a nice sweet spot when making him a strong value engine card, while asking that you actually build around him if you want real value. You can also ensure that the most egregious combo piece cards are intentionally excluded, and can balance him much more based on what cards can enable him in the card pool. He’s absolutely a big design mistake, but there’s no doubt that part of that comes from the massive card pool available in constructed formats, while in draft or cube he’s more of a controllable presence
"Broken cube" where all the cards in the cube are the worst designed value monsters ever but they lack the synergy that make them good
i actually agree with you btw i love nadu in LSV cube rn
@@33elk Have you ever heard of LRR's "Strictly Worse" cube? It was a joke in Friday Nights, where you draft the worst deck for your opponent to play, and all the cards are strictly worse versions of other cards, or have very little to no synergy with anything in the cube.
Eye of Ugin? No eldrazi in the cube.
Common Cause? Symmetrical buff that doesn't work in most cases.
Frazzle? 4 mana counter nonblue spell.
Plague Rats? There's only one.
Tahngarth's Glare? Let's your opponent index the top three cards.
Falling Timber? Fog one creature for 3 mana, two creatures if you also sacrifice a land.
Darksteel Relic? Does nothing.
@@connorhamilton5707 I don't follow LRR to closely but it sounds like it could be some fun to draft and build a deck for an opponent to play.
Great videos dude. Hope you do more non edh content, will def keep watching
1. enthusiasm for magic..... check
2. huge collection to draw from... check
3. excitement to try cube...... check
4. Three people willing to hang out with me and play.......ummmmm.....🤔🫤🥹😭😞
I like your video, though!
Playing cube again soon for the first time in a while. Really looking forward to it!
My friend made a Magpie Cube (look it up there's an article) and it's really fun! Basically it's a cube that evolves over time with player input. Players can bring a card each draft to add to the cube and you also draft stickers which let you permanently modify cards. At the end of the night each player who's not top 3 gets to pick any card to cut up as a balancing factor, and the top 3 pick prizes that let them modify the cube in cool and unique ways, such as extra powerful stickers or taking the remains of cut up cards and gluing together a new monstrosity. I really love it, personally I'm trying to slowly add defenders and defenders-matter cards to the cube to make it a real archetype >:3
Please tell me no cards of significant monetary value were destroyed.
Jay is the BEST
We actually tried something I like to call "bulk brawl beatdown!".
The gisst is that our lgs has a huge collection of give away bulk cards in the basement that players leave. So my idea after watching one of cardmarkets videos where they have to build a deck on a timer was: all players have 15 minutes to rumage through the bulk piles *at the same time* in order to build a 60 card deck (basics are provided). All cards players set aside when going through the bulk must be used in their deck and there is not limit on quantity of the same card.
Winner gets to keep their deck! Which ... Well they could either way as the cards are free lol but its the thought that counts
Waiting for more cube content!!
The commander legends draft experience was one of the most fun experience my group had with commander. So we build a dnd adventures in the forgotten reals cube. I love seeing commons and shitty cards shine. Its so much fun seeing overlooked cards take the spotlight. It really changes the experience for the better.
My buddies and I went through 4 boxes of commander legends, with each box paying for the next. Definitely the mist fun I’ve had playing draft or commander
Man, that was a revelation! Thanks so much. My friends and I had these issues with Commander for a while, and Cube could fix it. I'll definitely try it with my group.
this is literally my dream comment for this video, I am so happy i could help you.
Hello! hard to imagine you're making a video promoting cube without being familiar with Lucky Paper and their podcast Lucky Paper Radio, but I want to shout them out on the off chance anyone had not heard of them! I love their passionate perspective on cube as an expansive, expressive creative medium and for their insistence that cube can be so so much more than powered vintage. The free ornithopter cube reminded me of Andy Mangold's "100 ornithopters" cube, where the only creatures are the 100 ornithopters in the cube list. A completely different take on the same premise :)
Anyway, yay cube, always happy for more voices advocating for cube
Every take in this video is so on point and I’m happy to see a more welcoming video for cube beginners
I love cube! I built a 600 card one to ensure that certain cards aren't always drafted and to also prioritize just a ton of different archetypes without losing on consistency as a whole. It's also a great way to understand deckbuilding as a whole. If anyone is just starting one, playtest it multiple times! A cube is never perfect after the first playtest and there's always going to be that one card that does too little or too much, and it's up to you to see whether that's the intent that you want to have with such a card. Personally my favorite thing about cube us that it let's me play banned cards!
Draft is a BLAST I need more folks to play it with… btw ur lil fursona rantsona guy is so rad
Cube, battlebox, or boardgame boxes of a 5+ decks balanced against each other. Having one person create a mini metagame will usually lead to more fair magic than putting people’s collections against each other.
THIS!! i made a battlebox a while back and anytime i meet up with friends they always ask to play. the time save and convenience of not needing to draft or everyone not needing a deck makes it so easy to just pick up and play. also the land system in battlebox means there is never a nongame
@@bnutter9559 i am thinking about making little 40 card block decks, like optimized draft decks, maybe following a 3 rare / mythic, 19 common/uncommon structure or something.
I've maintained a Peasant Cube for about 8 years now. I love playing it and discussing it with my friends. The joy of Mulldrifter, Battle Screech and Rancor is real 😊
I have found a group to cube with every week and I've never been a happier magic player. Cube is the best format and it isn't close.
Cube content makes me happy :D
I recently built my own peasant cube. Such a fantastic choice!! It’s opened up such a brilliant opportunity for high synergy/mid power magic.
Feels very nostalgic and is a welcome change. It actually made me somewhat interested in new sets and I’m only looking at 10c commons and uncommons instead of the chase rares and mystics. Also it promotes buying singles :)
Cube!!!!! I've been wanting to have my own cube for a while, and this week I decided to finally get my first cube into a testable state
It's a bit of an unusual cube as it basically tries to recreate the video game Inscryption using Magic cards, so I've essentially made huge modifications to the Magic rules for this purpose
Wow, nice concept - do you have our progress online? I'd love to check it out
@@0rolon I'm still working on the technical aspects of the cube, but I can upload some info on the test version on Saturday and link it here
❤❤❤❤
@@LuxViolet0022 Please update when it's online!!
@@0rolon Small update, still working on getting the cube's rules into a coherent document, I've been running the cube IRL by just memorizing the ruleset but I can't just share our brainwaves lol
The timing on this video is funny because I was thinking about making a cube for my play group very recently. And you’ve sold me on it, now to brainstorming on how to make the cube I want with a bunch of old janky cards 🤔
I endorse talking about Cube. Cube is how me and my friends have been playing for the past couple years we started with just two and now we have like four of them between all of us so we can play a bunch of different formats. It's great and always fun, "This pack is nuts!" every time, haha!
ALLRIGHT! Now you've earned my sub! I aleady LOVE cube and have the EXACT same sentiments! More people should be playing cube and enjoying magic at their own pace!
I've built a 100 card tiny cube where players build 20 decks
an obvious commander cube
a zombie cube that weighted towards black more than any other color where I designed all the partner commanders and built the flavor of the plane as if it was my own set.
chaos cube where you just open booster packs and replace sets, for a friend, as a gift
planning on an eldraine flavor cube and a innistrad commander cube! (commander not required obviously but fun to draft around)
Had the idea of building a 3 card blind cube too-
I strongly agree that this is the place where you can look at the heaping piles of pet cards that get cut in commander or cards you just love resolving elsewhere and can freely toss them right into the cube.
You also didn't mention designing your own cards and making signpost or archetype support cards that dont exist yet- if you are a fan of that kind of thing!
Another great video from you... Your videos have been really impressive!. Personally, I've started proxying. Not only do I save money and not support Wizards, but making alters (like Universes Within versions) of my cards feels great and like great creative expression. I just make sure that my deck is it a fair power level for the group I play with, and there's no issues at all.
Cube sounds fun to build too! I think I'd start with just a set cube because that feels easiest to make.
I 100% agree with proxying and alters. UB makes me sick to my stomach sometimes, and there are always examples of bad art, so alters are a breath of fresh air.
Literally made a 1v1 winston cube a week ago. It's started from 6 packs of March of the Machines bc I wanted there to be battles, but is also incorporating the card-editing aspect that you see in Magpie cubes/unfinity cubes.
Cube is such a fun format. I'll play a random cube over most other magic formats nowadays, especially over commander
My playgroup made a cube and included many proxies so we can play with whatever cards without worrying. We do 60 cards and auto include command tower, arcane signet, and command sphere. We tried sol tong but decided it just turned into "whomever draws sol ring turn 1 wins".
Ive been blessed enough to have an lgs where people play low powered commander so no one has to keep up with new powerful things.
As for Cube, I have created the Morph Cube, and ruled 0 that both morph and Disguise have Ward 1 together to prevent differences.
Only problem is I havent been able to convince any of my friends to try it out lol
It's funny how I'm usually someone that despises Limited (I tend to build a "solid" deck and then lose to my opponents 3 bombs), and yet here I sit with a proxied up cube after this video once or ten times.
And maybe I even get to test it tonight...
I’m working on a kamigawa cube rn. From experience Cube rocks.
i myself have a cube with a lot of my favourite cards and am working with my friends on a "mishra's bauble" based cube with all archetypes working with it. it is my favourite format of all time definetly too
I will also add that there is a weird myth that people believe. For some reason, people think of cube as only 8+ people experience. Cube can be such a diverse format that allows for any number of people so long as the cube is accommodating.
Granted, I still can't convince a pod of 4 to not just defualt to commander. Finding a group of friends you can play it with is worth the effort though. Dont be afraid of reaching out to your lgs for cube night. Dont be afraid of trying to sell people on at least trying to cube. Its worth it c:
Yeah, I'm lucky the group I cube with usually has 6 players, but we've gone up to 9 and down to 4 some nights.
My play group has agreed to play cube with me, I just need to put it together. I really want to expand them to modern or vintage so I'm proxying a power 9 cube to show them what other formats have to offer, I'm super excited about it
Lets goooo
I love the idea of a cube draft followed up with a 4 player game, but my friends consistently snub any attempts at playing limited when we have a bunch of unopened product (sealed OR draft).
yeah that's rough, have you tried guilt tripping your friends into doing it on a special occasion like your birthday, and then throwing the draft so that your friend wins so that he's more likely to agree with it in future? :^)
in all seriousness though, maybe just talk with him ask him if he'll try it out once? iunno. Worst case ig you can winston draft with one of your other friends :)
@@33elk I did actually guilt trip a non-magic friend into playing a starter set with me and had great success throwing the matches, with the goal of keeping the drama and tension of the match rather than winning every game. Went over splendidly.
@@ElmntFire LOL
DIABOLICAL
I've played draft before. I've even done progressions drafts in Yu-Gi-Oh. Still I'm not sure if this fufills what me and my group like out of mtg, in fact we dont really worry about new cards that much we dont tend to instantly go for upgrades or things out of a new set.
That said maybe we will try a cube? Idk
A Cube idea ive been thinking about and brewing is the "bargains and bladeblessers" deck. Its namesake nezumi blade blesser and the eldraine bargain mechanic. The cube will care about owning both artifcats and enchantments to enable your creatures or to sacrifice to bargain effects (i plan to have no creature sacrifice and for it to be about managing these trinkets and objects for effects) but im torn between this cube and also building a bloomsburrow cube as that looks fantastic as a limited enviroment with good support for decks that are not just the main archetypes
I'll be trying a vintage cube that my lgs has proxied the next time it rolls around. Commander is great but I am getting fatigued by it. Thanks for the recommendation!
I think that the challenge of Cube is time commitment. I know there can be 5 hour long games of commander for sure, but between explaining the archetypes of the cube, drafting the decks, building the decks, pairing off and playing games, waiting for other games to finish. The reason I'm always "ehhh" when a friend suggests playing their cube over the normal edh night is because now we are no longer playing a multiplayer game with everyone, and I know that set up time is going to take close to an hour, or more, and in that time we could've gotten through an EDH game.
Not to say Cube isn't a fantastic way to play magic, and I actually agree with the idea that cube is the best way to bring new players into the game, but it's a tough sell as a direct EDH replacement. Great relaxing video none the less! Your Elk and vibes are so chill!
I mentioned multiplayer cubes in my video! Its an incredible way to play if you don't want to split up into 1v1 games. It really doesn't take much longer than an actual game of commander if you have life totals be 20ish and play with a cube that incentivizes combat.
I made a commander cube at the start of the year because one person in my playgroup played really ruthlessly and never honestly represented his decks. With a cube it meant we could all roughly match power, have no bad surprises and stop power creep over time
I'm going to make a cube crafted around Nadu, Orvar and Cathars Crusade.
I wish people would see the light (of limited formats)
I don't think I can bully my pod into playing a list of cards that only I approve of. It's a neat idea but it has some conceptual issues.
I could see this format working as a board game or when one player owns all the cards, but in the groups I play in people like to bring decks they made at home and that is a cool mechanic that I only get with constructed play magic. Playing cube would make me wonder why we weren't just playing Dominion instead.
a good way to try and convice your friends to play floating around is that the winner of the draft gets to make swaps to the cube so all of your friends get to contribute to building a cube that is right for the table
you can set a grace period too for when counter swaps are allowed like "no swapping a card added in the past 5 iterations of the cube" suddenly people wanna play your cube a ton to add their own flair to it haha
@@33elk I love your enthusiasm! I promise I will remember it for the future. I do think it will come in handy.
I like the idea, I'll take a crack at it but I don't' really know where I'm gonna go with this. Lets see if I can convert some more of my friends with this hehehe.
awesome video! im surprised you didnt talk about commander cube! i have one of my own with extra rules for spice! it is fun :)
Commander cube isn't one of my favorite ways to cube but its certainly there and certainly doable
I want to make a cube so bad, especially with Bloomburrow coming up. Gotta have a bunch of cute little furry animals.
pauper cube is peak magic, simple as
I LOVE cube! I was introduced to it 10 years ago by my friends who made a Yugioh cube. I won and loved the design and they said they got the idea because of mtg cube. For my birthday I just finished my entire cube (minus Sheoldred. We’re proxing her until she gets under $50)
oh hARD agree here! cube's so fun.
While I don't think you're entirely wrong (even though I don't agree the aforementioned pain points of edh, but that's really a playgroup thing more than anything else) to me cube introduces its own set of problems that at least to me really hamper it's potential as a casual mode.
For one there's a lot more setup involved. You can't just pick a deck and start playing, you have to sit down and draft for like probably at least twenty minutes before you can start playing. And what do you do if someone shows up and wants to play after you're done drafting? Shuffle up and draft again? This also becomes a problem if you just plain don't like the deck you made, what do you fo then? Tell everyone to start again? Draft on your own? Just not play?
On that note something that matters to me a lot that cube can't provide is self-expression. I want to play my decks with all the cards I hand-picked, and in cube that's just not the experience I'll have unless it's my cube, but that just means everyone else is in that position instead.
And finally I think cube is a pretty bad starting point for new players. Commander is admittedly kind of a bad start as well? But there is a world of difference between trying to build a draft a deck for the first time and buying a precon and sitting down at a table with it. It's how a lot of regulars at my locals got started.
I'm not trying to say one format is better than the other, just that they're different. What they have in common is that they're really adaptable and can be many different things to many different people, and I think that's very neat.
Some of the most fun games of cube I’ve had is when i think the deck I have is awful but i try to win with it anyway and end up surprising myself.
Cube has plenty of self expression too. You don’t get to pick the card pool but you do pick what you think is the best card for each pack. Someone also offered the idea of a cube where the winner gets to make swaps to the list which is a fun way of getting your playgroup involved with the cubebuilding process.
Cube and commander is definitely not a good starting place for players you got that right, but even still you could build simple cubes with easy to understand cards so drafting doesn’t mindblast your friends with tons of rulestext.
Kind of a similar situation, but I've really loved building Dandán, and my own variants, like a minute no red one built around risk factor and other conditional burn spells
Cube is an amazing format to play, but also as a design endeavor. It really scratches the itch of deckbuilding much better for me.
EXACTLY
What a coincidence. I'm also trying to get into cube recently. Hopefully I can eventually get the cards physically as well.
I designed a cube for Megaplex one year and everyone who played it said it was the best draft format they've played. Of course, it helped that I let everyone keep the cards.
I have been dreading the direction of Magic, vocally, for months lmao
Thanks, this is a great idea and much easier to introduce than my idea of getting them to try sealed or standard
I think a "jumpstart" cube would be the best approach for my own tastes. I like agency over what deck I'm playing, which draft doesn't help to facilitate (not that I don't totally get the appeal, I do like me a roguelike where you make do with what you got). Jumpstart-style hits right in the middle of having a selected card pool while also giving agency over what style of deck you're playing that night. Though there's less exploration of that space I think. Even if not Jumpstart style, I do kind of wish there was a cube-style thing for those of us that aren't the biggest fan of drafting (not that proper cube shouldn't exist of course)
You should try out winston or grid drafting. Lets you see cards in different ways which could prove more interesting to you.
i love custom card cubes hellscube my beloved
Cube is fantastic! Me and my friends play edh online and when we see each other in person we play more cube than anything.
Premodern is also not affected by the new sets, and fits better for people who are not that into draft type gameplay
I see your cube and raise you one Party Box. It's like cube's drunk cousin.
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I have an Unstable cube and another one built of my and my friends' favorite cards. They are awesome to play.
Thanks for the great vid! Looking forward to more :)
My gripe with draft like formats such as cube is that it takes multiple hours just to get a deck set up, with my playgroup it can take like 6-7 hours just to set it up. If I wanted that experience, then I'd just sit home and brew more decks. One format I'm curious about though is wizard's tower; shuffle all of the packs and lands from a gift bundle for a deck that everyone plays from.
I love draft and I love cube, too.
The main problem is getting enough people to play a proper draft. That being said, Winston drafting or pancake drafting with just you and one other person is also great!
So if you watched this video and want to play cube, know that you can do it with just one other friend! 🤗❤️
You can draft pretty easily with 4 too I’ve found!
@@33elk Definitely! The 5 packs of 9 cards is what I would go with too :)
Also your channel is very inspiring! I just posted my first videos too recently and you doing so well with just a few uploads is highly motivating ❤️🤗
I like custom cubes the most, there's a fan-made Halo Cube out there, really dope experience!
Great video! My friends stopped playing commander and played this balanced ravanca cube a friend made. Now it's dissambked for commander decks 😢
Cube has been one of my favorite formats in any card game. Even card games that aren't pack draft friendly, like Pokémon, are excellent in cube. I want to eventually try a Magic Cube even more after watching this video. Possibly, building my own cube would be spectacular.
Join the discord for sure
One of my friends made a pauper cube and it's been pretty fun to play
Proxy the cube and it will be even more cheap. Also can take it on more "dangerous" places a real expensive cars would be unable to go, like the pub.
I've just built my first commander deck and haven't actually gotten to play the format yet. Finding out that a lot of folks are trying to find a new format right as I'm trying to get into it is both a little disheartening and very funny
Hey listen commander is a lot of fun! My favorite? No, but still like one of my favorites.
Don't be disheartened. Some of the negativity against commander is that it's popularity is a double-edged sword. A lot of MtG players like to play more competitively, while just as many want some casual fun. Lack of a consistent way to balance power level / vibe at a table is the most common problem, and I think that's driving discontent. If you find a good LGS or playgroup that can match what you want out of EDH, the problem is much more minimal.
EDH and its consequences have been a disaster for all other formats.
There's positives and negatives to anything. Do I generally think it's overall a negative? Yeah, but I can't ignore the positives either.
Cubes are my favorite way to play the game. I love draft but there are some sets that just go really well with others that weren't anywhere near eachother, like both of the Eldraine sets.
hop on the discord we cube like every night
Cube and draft are so awesome
At my university's mtg club, one of the guys had an uncommon cube which i thought was cool. Only cards that were printed at uncommon at some point
Wish I got to play it more, but uni studies took precedent over draft night 😢
I LOVE PRINCE (or PAUPER) CUBE
@@33elk i think it's peasant when its uncommon but heck yeah!
@@ThatOneSomethingg TRUE
I've actually heard of cube before and have been curious to play for some good time. Need to find someone with a cube to try or maybe I eventually get enough cards to start my own
I was thinking of making a Bloomburrow cube,i think it would work great!
Hey Elk. glad to see another video. Your voice sounds a lot more natural this time around. I will say the static grey background is a bit…bland. I don’t know if it is an aesthetic choice but if it is, it might be nice to have gradient and some particles just to add a bit of flow to your default screens.
I have some ideas in the works. When they will actually come to be, different question.
I definatly want to build a cube because i got introduced to magic this summer through draft and cube is just a replayable draft format only problem is finding people to play it
Commander is kinda like cube but only for cards on your side
unrelated to the topic of the video, i love your elk :) they seem friendly
your character is so cute :D
I love cube, have half a dozen built. Biggest problem is getting people to join in.
you can always winston!
It's a little cumbersome, but MTG Forge is useful for building and playtesting a cube with AI opponents. I made a cube that was a mixture of pet cards, high powered good stuff, ways to cheat bomb cards out, as well as cards banned in other formats. We're talking OG Braids, NPH Elesh Norn, Monster Manual, Ragavan, Channel and all sorts of other junk mashed into one experience. It's super swingy as hell and I have fun with it.
You’re the GOAT! Oop sorry I mean the Elk!
I love cube but designing one for myself has been beyond stressful. I also have this problem when designing edh decks but it’s amplified with cube
I want to make a Final Fantasy Cube but idk how expensive that will be. But I know at least 4 people that will love it. Which mean we have 4 players.
I love love love Cube