How Gaga Saved her Career after Artpop

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  • After the failure of Gaga’s third album, 2013’s Artpop, to live up to expectations, critics of the superstar were quick to write her off and declare her career over. But in the years that followed, the American superstar rebounded from those professional disappointments, to scale new heights and become a fully fledged entertainment icon.
    So just how did Gaga salvage her career in the aftermath of Artpop? And whose idea was it to do a duets album with Tony Bennett? How did her role on American Horror Story come about? Was the Joanne album a mistake? And why was ‘A Star is Born’ the crowning glory of her comeback? This mini-documentary explores all these questions and more.
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    00:00 Intro
    00:50 Artpop
    06:16 Album with Tony Bennett
    08:36 Oscar Medley
    09:58 American Horror Story
    10:54 Superbowl 2016
    11:45 Joanne
    13:11 Superbowl 2017
    13:39 A Star is Born
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 306

  • @latinoburger123
    @latinoburger123 6 місяців тому +327

    Her career needs to be studied, it’s just FASCINATING, she literally fit an entire lifetime career into a decade

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +51

      That’s a good way of putting it. She put 10 years of pop into her first year IMHO

    • @lrav2000
      @lrav2000 6 місяців тому +19

      There should be a class course on Gaga.

    • @reddingmalik
      @reddingmalik 6 місяців тому +2

      I LOVE THIS COMMENT

  • @joshuaswaby8933
    @joshuaswaby8933 6 місяців тому +304

    I will never forget the Oscar performance moment like twitter was in a DEEP shock that night . People were apologizing to Gaga that night , saying “I didn’t know Gaga had these pipes” to “that was Gaga ?!?” . Even the LM was shocked . It was very much a shift in her career and I was very glad to witness it.

    • @anotherone_yt
      @anotherone_yt 6 місяців тому +34

      I wouldn’t say LM were surprised, I felt like the general sentiment amongst the fandom was more like “told ya…” 😂
      We weren’t used to that type of performance that’s true, but we knew she had the pipes to do that.
      Still, the perception towards her shifted massively after that performance and I’m happy more people are realizing so by looking back.

    • @CrystalSki67
      @CrystalSki67 6 місяців тому +10

      I've been a massive fan since '09 and even I was SHOOKETH on my floor after that performance. Of course it was gonna be good, but it was next level!

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +10

      Social media went crazy

    • @user-id5er4hz8d
      @user-id5er4hz8d 6 місяців тому +4

      I still find it ridiculous that people did not pay Gaga attention for her vocals from day one. She was top of the vocal game, very publicly, since 2009. Maybe ‘Speechless’ should’ve been a single.

    • @stabithatv
      @stabithatv 6 місяців тому +4

      It's weird how people measure the records success against previous successes. I don't think Artpop was ever supposed to be as accessible as the other records. And Joanne was one of the best records of its genre that we've seen this century, it's just not as popular of a genre as pure pop.

  • @Nichole.Monroe
    @Nichole.Monroe 6 місяців тому +122

    It's simple, she's stupid talented. She'll go on forever. Versatile and a true artist.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +19

      She will be an all-time great. The last great superstar IMHO.

  • @rickybatungbakal9614
    @rickybatungbakal9614 6 місяців тому +88

    One word. TALENT.
    She’s so talented and people started to recognized it after Artpop.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +5

      True - that's why she's still around and held in such high regard

  • @kevinlove6974
    @kevinlove6974 6 місяців тому +106

    Love the analysis . So lets be clear, Artpop was not a Flop, it was unfairly compared to her magnum opus born this way. How does a number 1 album worldwide become a flop.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +20

      I never said it was a flop!!! Critics called it a flop

    • @terrellskrine6426
      @terrellskrine6426 6 місяців тому +4

      Your cadence in the beginning made it seem like you were saying it was a failure.

    • @drewskie20100
      @drewskie20100 5 місяців тому +1

      It wasn’t a complete bomb but come on, it was a “flop” compared to her standards at the time. it was still a decently successful era at the time but her momentum was so high after Born This Way, ARTPOP doing way smaller numbers overall definitely slowed things down for her career, which is why it’s technically viewed as a “flop”.

  • @tylerdavis8648
    @tylerdavis8648 6 місяців тому +34

    one thing you are forgetting is that in-between Artpop and Cheek to Cheek, she started to pop up doing covers, like for Carol King, John Lennon, Sting, and Stevie Wonder. This really helped establish her talent and gained her so much respect with the older generations of music.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +5

      okay - my video ends in 2019. Just checking those performances now. I should've included a few of them - I will take that on board. But I've never claimed my video are entirely comprehensive - they take a lot of time and sometimes certain details get left out.

  • @warrenmacdonald3463
    @warrenmacdonald3463 6 місяців тому +97

    Gaga managed to play the long game and stage a comeback based off of her diverse and immense talents at the heart of it all, and with A Star is Born really triumphed and it's very admirable. I'm convinced she will always be famous, beloved and relevant simply because she is so talented and naturally charismatic and no one can take that away from her

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +7

      yes I agree. She's going to be an all-time great.
      True - she played the long game.

  • @xs8372
    @xs8372 6 місяців тому +53

    I really think art pop was meant to be her “fall from grace” as in she low key planned it as such. Everything around it was very messy and controversial and seemed intentional. I have a theory that she wanted to do so to be able to shed the over the top image and constant costume like clothes. It was super risky but she knew she had the talent to help her re emerge a even bigger star without letting the fashion be the gimmick of her career. During art pop she expressed that she was very into performance art and that she had a fascination of the decay of blonde pop icon and on how culture loves to build them up and then destroy them, I believe she used art pop as the vessel to have the public turn on her so she can then return and wow everyone with her real talent which is her strong voice and let that be the main focus of her career vs the over the top clothing. She even foreshadowed this in her paparazzi video where there’s newspapers saying “Gaga is over” and then later towards the end “we love her again”. If you notice when art pop died also did most of the over the top looks and now we have a more “real” Gaga. I think she has one of the biggest come back stories ever and solidified her career forever.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +6

      Maybe you're right? I don't know

    • @alexcal24
      @alexcal24 6 місяців тому +6

      If this is true, then she is the smartest musician out there! Risking it all so you can reset... B R I L L I A N T

    • @Zeynep-xq4yr
      @Zeynep-xq4yr 6 місяців тому

      That's not true. Why she did artpop act 2?

  • @joshryantt
    @joshryantt 6 місяців тому +25

    As a mega fan of Gaga, this video was amazing. You hit everything that so many of us knew for a long time.

  • @piikapiika
    @piikapiika 6 місяців тому +101

    Her TRIBUTE phase was also a huge part of her rebrand and was like a stepping stone. She went out booking every tribute gig that time (Sting, Stevie Wonder, Carole King, Frank Sinatra, Elton John, Julie Andrews, David Bowie etc). That phase should be separated from Tony Bennett collaboration and although some were mentioned, I just think it's worth pointing out.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +4

      yes good point - my video ends around 2019 but I should've included a few of them - Carole King, Frank Sinatra, Elton John

    • @omarbaadarani5501
      @omarbaadarani5501 6 місяців тому +1

      All of them spectacular performances!

  • @glasstablegcrls
    @glasstablegcrls 6 місяців тому +19

    i absolutely despise how gaga’s vocals are so unappreciated by the public. she is one of the most talented and underrated vocalists of our time. i know that she is very popular for her performances, versatility, and campy style and musical re-inventions, but hello??? she is a raw talent when it comes to vocal performances.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +4

      she is one of the greatest vocalists of her generation

  • @hausofjohan
    @hausofjohan 6 місяців тому +7

    Looking back on ARTPOP 10 years laters it have put a lot of things into perspective. It soundtracked the last year of my true innocence as a young adult.
    It provided me great catharsis at the time going through my first breakup. The music was as chaotic as i felt inside.
    Her life seemed to have been pretty chaotic at the time too, having had to cancel her born this way ball tour due to the hip injury that haunts her to this day, and her manager as you mentions having left her before the era started.
    ARTPOP was an end to an era. She never have returned to being who she was then or before it.
    She threw everything at us to see what would stick it felt like at times, all very ambitious concepts. I followed her every step at the time. It was a lot of fun to wake up to new photos of her stepping out of hotels with eccentric outfits on a daily basis.
    The R Kelly situation was so weird. At the time his crimes were played down to a great deal. We were in a strange period culturally in the early 2010s. It would’ve never occurred post this year.
    G.U.Y is the hit that got away that if having been part of a better received album and era, it would’ve been a huge song I believe. Do What You Want was building up to be a big hit. I wish after the R Kelly debacle that they would’ve relaunched the single with the Xtina version and had them make a video for it. Could’ve been a huge moment for the both of them and a nice way to make a bigger public peace statement between them after P*re*z H*lt*n* having torn Xtina apart during Bionic.
    Joanne remains my least favorite album in Gaga’s discography. She needed to make a studio album like it at the time but who she had turned into felt unrecognizable. Like she had left her core gay fanbase behind in a way to pursue acting and more “credible music” andI felt incredibly betrayed at the time.
    I loved her Oscars performance
    Sadly in the music industry women always have to prove their talent and with this performance apparently a lot of people realized she can sing. It’s so silly when some male artists don’t even have half of the vocal capabilities of some female performers but we never hear their talents being questioned.
    Chromatica brought me back. It was a return to the dance floor that i never thought we’d get. So I really revauled in that to a 100 %. Other artists had replaced her with providing the pure dance pop that i needed up til then.
    I’ll think Gaga will become more of a Cher to our generation than a Madonna, in that she will stick around, have her big moments in both music and acting.
    She’s born to be an entertainer, a star! 💫

  • @jonnyharvey
    @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +44

    BTW just to clarify, I'm a huge fan of the Artpop album. I think it's a really solid record and had lots of potential singles on it.
    ***** I never call Artpop a flop in the video, I say 'critics called it a flop'. Critics. Not me. I do not consider it a flop.
    Just forgot to mention that in the video 😀

    • @ryanappleton3653
      @ryanappleton3653 6 місяців тому +6

      ArtPop is in my eyes a solid album too. She had strong competitors with Katy Perry (Prism) Miley Cyrus (Bangerz) Beyonce (Beyonce) Avril Lavigne (Avril Lavigne) and Britney Spears (Britney Jean) that year.
      If ArtPop was managed better, it would've had better respect from the general public

    • @gabbyb7347
      @gabbyb7347 6 місяців тому +1

      Artpop was a flop. No need to sugar Coat it

    • @yjperk98
      @yjperk98 6 місяців тому +5

      ​@gabbyb7347 It wasn't. The album still performed well
      She got a top 5 hit from the album (Applause), and the album went Platinum.

    • @gabbyb7347
      @gabbyb7347 6 місяців тому

      @@yjperk98 very poor for its time and her standards at the time. Madonna's Erotica was double platinum and gets called a flop by little monsters

    • @yjperk98
      @yjperk98 6 місяців тому +4

      @gabbyb7347 Just because it didn't perform as well as her previous work doesn't make it a flop. The album was still successful, and the tour did really well.

  • @HenryCLHarries
    @HenryCLHarries 6 місяців тому +24

    The trouble is as a pop artist 2008-2013 she oversaturated and believed her own hype she became the biggest target in so many ways ... ARTPOP was chaotic in every single way and it was so traumatic for her ... And after that GAGA as a pop artist died and she won't ever get back to that level and thst perfectly fine as you say here she expanded her palette in music areas and wanted to garner acclaim and praise for being an authentic actor and performer over pushing for album sales and number 1's I'm proud of her ...she didn't reignite her career in the way fans may have wanted but she really came full circle with chromatica I feel and thstll work beautifully going forward looking after her health in the process

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +3

      yes everything must change. Her imperial phase couldn't last forever.

    • @HenryCLHarries
      @HenryCLHarries 6 місяців тому +2

      @@jonnyharvey yeah whilst it's gutting this happened and it nearly destroyed her it's inspiring she managed to rebrand away from being a major pop player but also manage to showcase shed a performer with dedicated fans to follow her through ...and that's more than enough for her succeesses

  • @burburchacha
    @burburchacha 6 місяців тому +7

    who knew Shallow would be her biggest song so far in her career

  • @MYSTERIOMUSIK
    @MYSTERIOMUSIK 6 місяців тому +17

    Honestly, if Gaga was given the creative control she deserved with ARTPOP it could have been her best era. The visuals, the app, act ii and other forms of branding for what ARTPOP could have been signal that her label had no faith in the project... but yet 10 years later we're celebrating it for the pop masterpiece it was.
    SIDE NOTE: The R Kelly Collaboration was the record labels idea and so was presenting it as the second single, it was originally supposed to be Applause, Venus, MANiCURE and then G.U.Y. You can tell that she really didn't like the R Kelly collab through the pre-release promotional performances where she played almost every song EXCEPT Do What U Want instead opting for Jewels n Drugs (the song that she actually got to pick the people she collaborated with).

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +2

      Cool - thanks for that info. Yes I heard Venus was supposed to be the second single and the label changed their minds at the last minute. I think Venus & ManiCure were single worthy.

  • @alexcal24
    @alexcal24 6 місяців тому +10

    For us who have lived through Gaga's career... her videos were a moment! Her songs were all great pop and overplayed... When ARTPOP was announced and Applause was released I remember feeling numb... It wasn't a great lead single, there were too many promises that I KNEW she could not keep (app, music videos for every song, games, magazines, Act II) and when the DWUW video fiasco happened we were all left speechless. What was there for Gaga to do?
    She went the opposite way and it rewarded her... I think Joanne was her Bedtime Stories to her Erotica / ARTPOP. She went for a softer image that suited her and then came back with a bang!

    • @Solo-vh9fm
      @Solo-vh9fm 6 місяців тому

      I didn’t think Applause was bad at all. I was quite baffled at how little airplay it had.
      What killed the era for me was when a song called Do What You Want was announced and had R Kelly on? The lyrics of the song really didn’t help. I also remember some of her biggest monsters defending the song as meaning something else, but it didn’t change anything. I don’t even remember the video at the time other than the O2 advert

  • @arontamas5639
    @arontamas5639 6 місяців тому +4

    AHS was a huge milestone in her career. Not just she could make her acting debut which was pretty good and since then she gets better and better in acting but she she could revive her music career as well.

  • @fiercetilapia
    @fiercetilapia 6 місяців тому +11

    shallow being the most awarded song in history

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      Thanks for this - I should've included that.

  • @danfercuevachinga215
    @danfercuevachinga215 6 місяців тому +13

    The Sound of Music Medly was the Rebirth of Lady Gaga. THAT'S ALL

  • @user-id5er4hz8d
    @user-id5er4hz8d 6 місяців тому +15

    I would say the most seamless transition to acting from a recording career would be Barbra, but she originated on the stage - so perhaps it doesn’t count. However, Barbra and Gaga have lots of similarities and I’m sure Gaga looks at Barbra for inspiration in her career trajectory.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +1

      I’m listening to her book atm - I absolutely love it 🙌🙌

  • @thomasknight3002
    @thomasknight3002 6 місяців тому +14

    She made many smart moves and will have a very long successful career. But for me personally, what she did from The Fame to Artpop is much more interesting than what's followed. Different strokes for different folks.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      exactly - it would be so boring if we all liked the same thing.

  • @johnygi1553
    @johnygi1553 6 місяців тому +4

    Loved this, I still remember watching that Oscar performance and thinking ‘is she really singing?’ ‘Is that her voice?’ ‘Is she doing playback?’ ‘It sounds so different, truly like a singing voice coming from those movies’ I was in pure shock! ❤

  • @AKLabs-xl4re
    @AKLabs-xl4re 6 місяців тому +13

    It’s simple why Artpop “flopped”. Music industry is changing and the image she marketed during The Fame up to Born This Way does not sell anymore. Rebranding her image to Joanne and Star Is Born is the right move and she did it perfectly.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +3

      yes it was time for a re-brand.

    • @milokors9261
      @milokors9261 6 місяців тому +8

      I don’t think it was the image. The image that Gaga created in 2009 has been selling since then. Many who came post her became icons with that eccentric image (Nicki, Cardi B, etc). That image still sells.
      Artpop didn’t do so well because it wasnt promoted well. Applause was a banger song and should have hit number 1. Artpop flopped because the album was promoted poorly and her team and label didn’t give it the promotion it deserved

  • @LadyGagaLoveMusic
    @LadyGagaLoveMusic 6 місяців тому +40

    She hasn't just topped the charts, she's become a well know global actress, created multiple different genre albums where she has written all the songs and of cause made huge political impacts with her support of gay rights and liberalism she's the pop queen of this generation💜💜💜

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +5

      She is a legend. I love her so much 🙌🙌

  • @MistarZtv
    @MistarZtv 6 місяців тому +9

    In a world where *that thing* didn't happen. I wonder how the Chromatica era would've been able to fully realize itself. It was such a great pop healing record.

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 6 місяців тому

      Chromatica was a bad album sorry

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      the pandemic?

  • @Krees82
    @Krees82 6 місяців тому +12

    Think you hit the nail on the head. She was overexposed by 2013 and it just seemed like more weirdness in her image. And the R Kelly duet did her no favours, especially given the contradiction with the trauma she has experienced in her personal life (she's since deleted that version of Do What U Want from all streaming services). Even Joanne wasnt a huge success so it took A Star is Born and then Chromatica to get her back on top so it was a five year period where her career had slipoed from the earlier heights.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +2

      yes it was very contradictory duetting with R Kelly. She was struggling at the time - she wasn't thinking straight.

  • @brandonhawley6420
    @brandonhawley6420 6 місяців тому +10

    Chromatica was a return to Gagas classic dancepop and electronic roots with ushering the 2020s Discopop revival in a similar vien to Dua Lipa and The Weeknd.Rain On Me With Ariana Grande Debuting at No.1 on The Billboard Hot 100 and The Album debuted atop the charts.The music was a departure from the acoustic country-rock of Joanne 2016 and A Star is born soundtrack 2018.

    • @jonnyfendi2003
      @jonnyfendi2003 6 місяців тому

      Oh please the album barely went platinum. Taylor Swift does those numbers in one week basically with each album in one week sales. No one was checking for Chromatica!!

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +2

      yes Chromatica had a no 1 single. And the album went number one all over the world. People seem to forget that.

    • @jonnyfendi2003
      @jonnyfendi2003 6 місяців тому

      @@jonnyharvey what part of "barely went platinum dont you get"???? Chromatica was supposed to be some big comeback and no one even cared.

    • @dejstoney
      @dejstoney 6 місяців тому +1

      @@jonnyfendi2003you’re bringing up Taylor swift in an unrelated video because?????

    • @spilledbeans7000
      @spilledbeans7000 5 місяців тому

      @@jonnyfendi2003U can’t compare Taylor who killed her fans by selling her bottled water in her stadiums shows to Gaga. Both are different and Gaga can sing and a vocalist.

  • @henrygiovani7476
    @henrygiovani7476 6 місяців тому +7

    This video brought nostalgic memories to me. I remember all the stuff and her performances I had been addicted to. Thanks for this, such a great vid!

  • @silaszephyr
    @silaszephyr 6 місяців тому +5

    Those bloopers at the end are fucking great, they are fabulous

  • @RossBaby91
    @RossBaby91 6 місяців тому +10

    ARTPOP just came out at the wrong time. People were judging Gaga a lot more than the music itself. If it came out literally at the early 2010s or later 2010s it would have been appreciated a lot more.

    • @xismecwilliams9604
      @xismecwilliams9604 6 місяців тому +3

      You can say the same about Bionic which was a masterpiece but ripped to shreds because it became popular to call Christina floptina due to lady gaga friend at that time “Perez Hilton” who oddly had to much influence for who he was.
      I was a fan of fame, fame monster and born this way. But art pop wasn’t a great album it had a few incredible songs but it felt lacklustre and bland at times.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +3

      Very true. I agree with this re Artpop

  • @impactive3124
    @impactive3124 5 місяців тому +3

    I love how books are ordered by colours in the background :)

  • @NobleWolf33
    @NobleWolf33 6 місяців тому +6

    That was fucking amazing. It was like taking a trip down memory lane. I consider myself blessed to have watched Steph go from a “crazy pop star” to Legendary status.

  • @josegray666
    @josegray666 6 місяців тому +3

    If the fans weren’t so chart obsessed and pitting Katy against Gaga the media wouldn’t have fed of this narrative and made Gaga feel like a failure… Applause charted for 16 weeks in the top 10 of hot 100… and is half DIAMOND in the USA alone that’s definitely a hit on my book.

  • @RihannaChristina
    @RihannaChristina 6 місяців тому +5

    I am not a Artpop fan but I do respect the art. However I always thought that at that point in 2013 people were tired of the over the top costumes and theatrical shows. Maybe is she went for a softer look and a more sophisticated album sounds and look it wouldn’t have been such a messy era for her. However, things are meant to happen for a reason and I think after all it’s an exceptional chapter in her career no matter what.

  • @spilledbeans7000
    @spilledbeans7000 6 місяців тому +2

    I’ve been waiting for a 1080p video, finally. Great work Jon. ❤

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +1

      Sorry I finally figured it out. Apologies. My fault. The export settings hadn’t been adjusted

  • @RogueWJL
    @RogueWJL 6 місяців тому +4

    Gaga/Stephanie is s first and foremost an extremely talented entertainer.
    In many ways she harkens back to the superstars of an eta long gone, when the studio system of Hollywood sought out people like her- think Gene Kelly -who could sing , dance, act and even the productions they where appearing in.
    In fact in that regard i could imagine the likes of Astaire or Kelly working with her had this been in the 1940s or 50s. Perhaps ths is What Tony Bennett saw in her
    Whhatever era you put her in , i think she would have been a star under the right circumstances
    She is a rarity in that regard and i hope her career will last for many decades as there sre all too few around like her
    One final point, she carried the Gucci movie -she was absolutely fantastic in that and i am glad that she at least got recognition for it

  • @winnamza
    @winnamza 6 місяців тому +11

    I wonder what would Artpop era be like did if it was like what they've planned.

    • @iMThatOnlyBeast13
      @iMThatOnlyBeast13 6 місяців тому +6

      Same, it’s a very interesting and disappointing thought. Artpop should’ve been huge

    • @NobleWolf33
      @NobleWolf33 6 місяців тому +3

      I would’ve been massive. I remember her wanting to make artpop2 a full on visual album with 72 songs

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +2

      Guess we'll never know.

    • @Hoeee
      @Hoeee 6 місяців тому

      There are a few demos of art pop songs on UA-cam. They’re way better than the studio versions, same with Chromatic sadly… Record labes don’t want creativity, only mainstream radio friendly shi…

  • @DavidMichaelCommer
    @DavidMichaelCommer 6 місяців тому +3

    The music industry's operations are so bizarre. Her lead single launched at number one globally, and she was proclaimed to be a failure immediately because it didn't sell *as much* as other songs did, even with declining music sales across the board.
    Popular culture is strange. Marilyn Monroe is a legend because she died young more than for any other reason. Greta Garbo because she went into hiding before she was aged.
    The music industry used to support and cultivate some talents. Kate Bush, for example, was discovered to have been a brilliant singer, songwriter and artist broadly as a teenager, and she was adopted by music industry reps and put through tutoring and mentorships to refine her talents before they finally launched her. Brilliant, lasting investment-although it must be said that her reputation as a legend is a credit to her genius, but also partly due to her decision, like Garbo, to effectively go into hiding once she reached her 40s.
    Tori Amos was a preternatural talent, the youngest person ever admitted to the Peabody Conservatory of Music (at age five) for her piano virtuosity, and she was given a six-album deal by Atlantic Records based on her songs, her compositions, her piano playing and her singing. And as soon as she signed, they made her over as an 80s pirate wench (??!) and tried to force her to replace all the piano on her songs with guitars. She has fought with the labels her entire career and has never stopped putting out brilliant music, but the record labels stopped investing in promoting her as she reached age 40. Her 'legend' as a brilliant artist would have benefited from going into hiding, but more than half of her incredible work would have been sacrificed in the name of cementing her as someone who was once great and then mysteriously stopped working.
    The reputations of artists within pop culture are due to how much their supporting companies pay to promote them and to how critics write about them. Critics nearly always write off women as no longer as talented as they once were after they have been around for a decade or so. There are few exceptions-Stevie Nicks is really the only woman musician who comes to mind and who is constantly praised after never having become a recluse. It's such a strange phenomenon.
    When we discover artists whose work touches us on more than a basic entertainment level, we should keep supporting their work and ignore how they chart. It doesn't matter.

  • @Felicity_Young
    @Felicity_Young 6 місяців тому +3

    this made me cry! what an amazing video!

  • @Bysisndidksn
    @Bysisndidksn 6 місяців тому +13

    I wished she milked ASIB success even more. ARUTW wasn’t even promoted as a single in most countries yet it has over a billion streams.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      I didn’t know that. Thanks for sharing

    • @flazeda8743
      @flazeda8743 6 місяців тому +3

      Indeed! Also I'll never love again did really great on UA-cam but wasn't sent to any radio or promoted even once. 😅

    • @danniel1431
      @danniel1431 6 місяців тому +3

      This is so true. Even in here in the Philippines, ARUTW is much more famous than Shallow.@@jonnyharvey

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      @@flazeda8743 wasn't it? I need to look into this.

    • @flazeda8743
      @flazeda8743 6 місяців тому

      @@jonnyharvey After shallow they vaguely sent ARUTW to France and maybe to Europe... And that was it.

  • @AmosAmerica
    @AmosAmerica 6 місяців тому +1

    Great post Jonny!

  • @martijnkeisers5900
    @martijnkeisers5900 6 місяців тому +1

    Great video again! ❤

  • @feruspectus
    @feruspectus 6 місяців тому +9

    I love your videos ❤ There are so many facts about music stars I didn’t know, and Gaga, she’s one of the biggest star, I’ve just watched the Oscar performance from The Sound of Music, she was amazing! Thank you for your work man! ❤

  • @lawrencewilson4826
    @lawrencewilson4826 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for the video. I liked it.

  • @regoat
    @regoat 6 місяців тому +4

    Joanna is my favourite album from Gaga

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      Oh that’s good - I didn’t really get into it

  • @The.new.gandhi
    @The.new.gandhi 6 місяців тому +1

    Great video ❤

  • @ryanwardcomedy
    @ryanwardcomedy 6 місяців тому +6

    Had she led with Do What U Want (minus R Kelly) this would have went so much better. It isnt my favourite from the album but it was the most natural hit.
    .radio friendly...etc...it just had that magic of a hit that applause didnt...it was clumsy and u had to work to like it. I thot GUY was a great choice for a single...was one of my favourites along with Aura and Artpop...i loved watching her career revival although i did not personally enjoy it musically (except for John Wayne)...i am glad her voice got to shine in the aftermath of artpop...she has one of the most amazing voices ...i hear ppl say "Beyonce and Adele" when discussing the best singers. I dont know why Gaga doesnt seem to be added to that category in conversations. I am curious to see what happens next with Gaga...where is she right now? Tour? Hiatus??

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +3

      I guess we'll never know. I think Applause was more of a grower for most people, it wasn't that instant. I think that's why it survived over the years.
      She's in an incredible vocalist. Much better range and more versatile than Adele.

    • @ryanwardcomedy
      @ryanwardcomedy 6 місяців тому

      @@jonnyharvey agreed

  • @garyfitzpatrick8564
    @garyfitzpatrick8564 6 місяців тому +2

    ARTPOP remains one of my favourites

  • @besti2715
    @besti2715 6 місяців тому +5

    Mother ❤❤❤❤

  • @RihannaChristina
    @RihannaChristina 6 місяців тому +1

    1:13 Applause was great, Roar was just massive

  • @reddingmalik
    @reddingmalik 6 місяців тому +1

    AMAZING VIDEO but I expect nothing less from you ❤

  • @ryanharrington3282
    @ryanharrington3282 6 місяців тому +7

    I love the Cher acting comparison! I always tell people she’s a Cher level actress NOT a Madonna level actress (and thank god for that!)

  • @Bret121
    @Bret121 6 місяців тому +6

    I love the album Art pop it's a masterpiece ❤

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +3

      I love it too. I don't understand how people don't. So many great songs.

    • @Bret121
      @Bret121 6 місяців тому +1

      @@jonnyharvey it's like a futuristic journey and it's aged well still sounds fresh

    • @Moonstone115
      @Moonstone115 6 місяців тому

      Me too! ❤

  • @Ididntpourthewhiskey
    @Ididntpourthewhiskey 6 місяців тому +4

    Love the cat he or she looks so happy ❤

  • @TheMolabola
    @TheMolabola Місяць тому +1

    She's incredible, this woman has gotten so much hate for no reason... she's not problematic and values all people yet so many slandered her? now look how far she has come starring in Joker 2 and about to shock us even more!

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Місяць тому

      I love her so much - a true legend 🙌🙌

  • @denielquinn
    @denielquinn 2 місяці тому +3

    It's funny how the whole world consideres ARTPOP as a flop or a failure even the fact it's a #1 album with a huge top 5 hit and it was also one of the most successful albums of 2013, but just because it didn't have that much stability and big sales as her previous albums then it's automatically a flop even the fact a lot of artists would die to have a successful album just like ARTPOP 🤷‍♂️

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Місяць тому

      I love the album. She was so huge and overexposed for 3/4 years, it was inevitable the media would turn on her. She probably needed a cooling period anyway.

  • @Eagle-cy4qj
    @Eagle-cy4qj 3 місяці тому +2

    Lady Gaga did a great job transitioning her image to keep with the times. The more stripped back version of Gaga is still amazing. That said, i do think Artpop is an amazing album. It's wild and fun, almost comedic at times. It wont resonate with everyone and there was never going to be a perfect time for it to be released, but im glad we have it.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  3 місяці тому

      I love Artpop - don’t understand how it wasn’t massive

  • @natatavaresbocampagni9539
    @natatavaresbocampagni9539 6 місяців тому +4

    I particularly think GUY is totally single material. Actually, I think the entire album should be a visual album.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +1

      That would’ve been so cool. Huge amount of work though

    • @natatavaresbocampagni9539
      @natatavaresbocampagni9539 6 місяців тому

      @@jonnyharvey yes, but I'm sure Gaga could pull it out.

  • @boontachaiplum9974
    @boontachaiplum9974 6 місяців тому +2

    Artpop was great! and it's definitely ahead of its time

  • @nathangurule8180
    @nathangurule8180 6 місяців тому

    I would LOVE an artpop video 🥳🔵🖼️

  • @wakeupzuzi
    @wakeupzuzi 6 місяців тому +2

    very great vid

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +1

      Thank you 😀😀

    • @TheBest-2023
      @TheBest-2023 6 місяців тому

      ​@@jonnyharveyYou forgot to mention Chromatica in your video because in my opinion this album cemented her comeback

  • @CaSa420
    @CaSa420 6 місяців тому +3

    Look like her ARTPOP really could mean anything.

  • @cristhianduarte2137
    @cristhianduarte2137 6 місяців тому +4

    Great video man 🙌🏻🙌🏻 i agree i think a start is born was good comeback and also a good rebranding, but i think that Gaga spoiled all that good work she did with a star ir born "era" because with chromatic she did pop again. i think that after a star is born she should did proyects like adele or lana del rey to establish himself more as an artist.

  • @mix_icedcocoffee1534
    @mix_icedcocoffee1534 6 місяців тому +2

    #justiceforartpop

  • @jamieleetose1
    @jamieleetose1 6 місяців тому +1

    Art pop was literally incredible. Fools know nothing

  • @spilledbeans7000
    @spilledbeans7000 6 місяців тому +3

    And Katy has never recovered 😭 50K first week sales? 💀💀Her career is OVER 😂

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      She might make a comeback yet

  • @davidbrixton6955
    @davidbrixton6955 6 місяців тому +2

    "The imaginatively titled DUETS 2!" 😅😂 spoken respectfully, not sarcastically 👍

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      sorry - I'm grumpy these days

  • @adrianmilian5002
    @adrianmilian5002 6 місяців тому +1

    It's INSANE to me that Artpop flopped. That is one of my favorite albums.

  • @QueenDany69
    @QueenDany69 6 місяців тому

    paws up

  • @valdi7777
    @valdi7777 6 місяців тому +1

    I love her

  • @devilsfavorite999
    @devilsfavorite999 6 місяців тому +3

    Many female singers went through "she is over" phase. Could you do Cher, please?

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +1

      I've done 2 videos on Cher's comeback -
      GREATEST’S EVER COMEBACK?
      ua-cam.com/video/juzZKvO_QCw/v-deo.html
      CHER VIDEO
      ua-cam.com/video/oThzXEDgkfQ/v-deo.html
      Enjoy 😀

    • @devilsfavorite999
      @devilsfavorite999 6 місяців тому

      @@jonnyharvey thank you.

  • @edgarquintero2876
    @edgarquintero2876 6 місяців тому +9

    Did she ever recover her career or she just went different directions 😂 because she has yet to be on top like Madonna

    • @NobleWolf33
      @NobleWolf33 6 місяців тому +5

      Madonna Stans forever stay pressed 😂😂 bruh after all these years. I can’t

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +6

      They’re very different

    • @thankyou1147
      @thankyou1147 6 місяців тому +3

      @@NobleWolf33 hagdonna fans always gets pressed whenever Gaga was praised by her talents.

    • @flazeda8743
      @flazeda8743 6 місяців тому

      She absolutely was in the late 2000's/ early 2010's so no she doesn't have yet to be there.

    • @hansfxrhx2729
      @hansfxrhx2729 6 місяців тому +3

      Madonna is a freakin Madonna, we get it. Nothing to do with Gaga’s career. Now let’s move on.

  • @fanstastic83
    @fanstastic83 6 місяців тому +1

    Oooh I just noticed you have a Melanie C book, did you enjoy it?

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      I only read parts of it, never got around to reading it all. It was interesting to hear about the Spice Girls from a different perspective & through a more modern lens. It’s more honest than the other three girls.

  • @MsRoshniAli
    @MsRoshniAli 6 місяців тому +3

    Your cat is beautiful❤

  • @stevemac2009
    @stevemac2009 6 місяців тому +1

    I honestly think that Artpop is her best album.

  • @ManifestationPowerhouse
    @ManifestationPowerhouse 6 місяців тому

    Would you consider doing something on some of music’s previous icons?
    Patti Labelle
    Aretha
    Cindy Lauper
    Thank you :)

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      I love Cyndi Lauper - I know quite a bit about her. What angle would I take?

  • @snoeleopard0
    @snoeleopard0 6 місяців тому +1

    the bloopers 😭😭

  • @user-lg2nz1rx7h
    @user-lg2nz1rx7h 5 місяців тому

  • @livviloolah
    @livviloolah 6 місяців тому

    is that little monstera (haha) real??? it is breathtaking

  • @oddieshow
    @oddieshow 6 місяців тому +4

    Dont call ARTPOP a failure. it was far from failure. Also comparing AP to Katys Prism is very 2013/14.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +4

      🙄🙄🙄 I never called it a failure. Critics called it a failure

    • @oddieshow
      @oddieshow 6 місяців тому +3

      @@jonnyharvey first part of my comment is to general public that’s gonna watch your video. Sorry I didn’t word it well, but AP and Prism - completely different worlds. Ps still watching your video and love your content perhaps I’m sensitive when it comes to ARTPOP. Liked the video already. Thank you for a quick response.

    • @oddieshow
      @oddieshow 6 місяців тому +2

      @@jonnyharvey 1:09 there’s some stuff about roar. As I said I’m sensitive and passionate about Gagas album and I’m being annoying ass sorry!

    • @oddieshow
      @oddieshow 6 місяців тому +2

      There is lots of comparisons from KatyCats and Monsters about applause and roar and my gay ass decided to be stupid and I just… said things. Sorry! X

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +3

      @@oddieshow it's fine, don't worry. I've just spent all weekend, working on it. And I'm a bit touchy. Sorry

  • @jesusaceves3893
    @jesusaceves3893 6 місяців тому +2

    You're too cute lol. Just breath, loved the bloopers

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +1

      Thank you 😀😀

    • @jesusaceves3893
      @jesusaceves3893 6 місяців тому +1

      You're welcome 🙇🏻
      Goodnight from USA

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      @@jesusaceves3893 😀

  • @Wizard608
    @Wizard608 6 місяців тому

    you should've included the Chromatica era!

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +1

      Maybe? But the ASIB was the big comeback moment with the stratospheric success. It was the perfect ending for the story I was telling. I love Chromatica & it had some success but it wasn’t a ‘slam dunk’

    • @Wizard608
      @Wizard608 6 місяців тому

      @@jonnyharvey you got a point there but it continued Gaga's momentum

  • @D1ON1807
    @D1ON1807 6 місяців тому +1

    You should do a video like this for Miley Cyrus

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      On which era? What angle do I take? Thanks

  • @SoraiaLMotta
    @SoraiaLMotta 6 місяців тому +2

    😊

  • @morganboutwell8231
    @morganboutwell8231 6 місяців тому +1

    If you know anything, you’ll know that artpop was not a failure

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      Did I say it was?!?!??!??

  • @NickBennett-vr3iq
    @NickBennett-vr3iq 6 місяців тому +1

    You know artpop sold a lot more than the girls now days so I wouldn’t really call it a failure

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +1

      See pinned tweet! I never called it a failure - critics did. I love the album

  • @elizabethschubert7803
    @elizabethschubert7803 6 місяців тому +4

    “…imaginatively titled ‘Duets 2’”
    I enjoy the snark 😅
    Let’s face it, Gaga deserves to be a star but her bona fides as a musician have always been sus. The Fame was a brilliant time in her career but everything after that felt pretty amateur and try-hard. She made the right move transitioning to acting. She’s a lovable person and decent performer… just not a great songwriter.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +2

      Really? I thought she was a great musician. I like her songwriting

    • @elizabethschubert7803
      @elizabethschubert7803 6 місяців тому +1

      @@jonnyharvey Don’t get me wrong, I think she’s got a good singing voice and she’s an energetic performer but I always felt she was very limited as a songwriter. For pop, she relied on a lot of repetition and stringing together very abstract lines and phrases that strived to be profound and very seldom were. Her true passion is piano lounge torch ballads and she doesn’t have the pathos or lyrical chops to really pull that off either … songs like “Million Reasons,” “You and I”, “Hold My Hand,” and yes, even “Shallow” are full of platitudes and formulaic arena choruses that rely too much on shouting and stretching syllables and amateur lyrics rather than crafting a unique melody or a compelling narrative.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      @@elizabethschubert7803 cool that's interesting. Who do you rate as singer-songwriters? I love those songs BTW

  • @jaymonteirojr.3036
    @jaymonteirojr.3036 6 місяців тому +2

    i clicked like when you pet the cat

  • @badbunnysballs790
    @badbunnysballs790 6 місяців тому +5

    When will Katy save hers? Never

    • @NobleWolf33
      @NobleWolf33 6 місяців тому +2

      She won the war but Gaga won the battle.

    • @Landiiana
      @Landiiana 6 місяців тому +1

      Sadly

    • @Bysisndidksn
      @Bysisndidksn 6 місяців тому +3

      @@NobleWolf33i think you got it reversed

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +3

      yes true, she won the battle but Gaga won the war

    • @kerronwalker1589
      @kerronwalker1589 6 місяців тому

      Who cares, shes still a house hold name tbh, Katy Perry I love gaga I love why say she needs to save herself. She's fine in her mansion tbh.

  • @setyolian123
    @setyolian123 6 місяців тому

    Bobby campbell is the saviour

  • @jordanodwyer6552
    @jordanodwyer6552 6 місяців тому

    I am living in an era where I am just discovering that Artpop was some kind of failure...for me it was a pinnacle!!! Screw Katy Perry's childish stuff!!

  • @ThePMMpc
    @ThePMMpc 6 місяців тому +1

    wonderful cat "uuughh"

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +1

      Do you not like my cat?

    • @ThePMMpc
      @ThePMMpc 6 місяців тому +2

      no i love it. that "ugh" was just the saound you made at the end of the video (bloopers) i sould put . before :) @@jonnyharvey

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      @@ThePMMpc oh okay 😀

  • @MsTivasa
    @MsTivasa 6 місяців тому

    Uh. What? Artpop was no flop. LG is a creative genius.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      I never called it a flop. See pinned tweet pls

  • @bloodrunforus
    @bloodrunforus 6 місяців тому +1

    Saved?

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      I’m being a bit sensationalist. I need ppl to click on my video. But it’s not untrue either. She was going through professional challenges at the time

  • @fanstastic83
    @fanstastic83 6 місяців тому

    Applause was a bad lead single, it was too generic. G.U.Y should've been the first single. I think it's a well-known fact that people were getting tired of that Red oneish electropop sound, her over the top theatrics and she also got a backlash because of that R.Kelly duet. She also lost a lot of fans because of alleged Christina Aguilera feud.
    8:03

  • @sparkswolverine
    @sparkswolverine 6 місяців тому +2

    I love you more now that I know you have a cat.

  • @Kw-om9pu
    @Kw-om9pu 6 місяців тому

    Id say maybe jennifer hudson!

  • @leightonbate7516
    @leightonbate7516 6 місяців тому

    Chromatica could have seen her back on top but she seemed to give up on it too soon.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому

      Or maybe the label did? Or I think she had to start filming ‘House of Gucci?’ And I think she’s kinda over the popstar thing

  • @paulvaldez153
    @paulvaldez153 6 місяців тому +1

    Videos like this always make me laugh because she’s never yet had to fight for her career 😂😂

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  6 місяців тому +2

      well I guess there are different ways of looking at it. Doesn't everyone have to fight for their place in the music industry? She certainly fought to break through at the start of her career. I don't know. Maybe you're right?

    • @paulvaldez153
      @paulvaldez153 6 місяців тому

      @@jonnyharvey I’ll agree with the beginning of her career. Like every artist out there. I’m sorry but I think the ARTPOP era was one of her most iconic eras. Because it was ahead of it’s time.