You know I don’t think I’ve ever seen a game double back on its art style like this. It’s actually quite. Refreshing. To see aesthetics being taken so seriously. Especially after the comically cartoony look the game had before
Great Vid, rope. I can tell your vids are a great deal of work, so tyvm. I really enjoy these changes w the patch and look forward to seeing the game over the coming months
Fantastic coverage as always. I feel like this should have been Coh3 1.0. Game was so half baked on release and it caused serious damage to the franchize. Heck, I'm finally ready to purchase the game, I'm glad they followed through
Think I might pick the game up now too. Never have I tracked a game for so long post release before deciding to buy. Just couldn't put myself through the obvious teething pains
Thanks for taking the time to build all of these comparisons. I like what they did with unit lighting and explosion effects. I'm sure it is less realistic the way it makes vehicles appear to be drawn in black borders and then filled in with color (if that makes sense) than the style at launch where the vehicle details and lines were harder to distinguish but truer to life. And who doesn't like nice Hollywood explosion effects even if they aren't true to life either.
I was watching some CoH3 cast and noticed they ruined the explosion effects... what happened to the cool blast wave effect that was a selling point in one of the gameplay trailers if I remeber correctly...?
Liking that new announcement filter effect. The tanks muzzle flashes are a nice addition. Agreed on the lighting duration; seems too long. Did we lose some particles effect on the tank flash? At the same time, I wasn't too much of a fan on how low-res/pixelated the flash looked anyway.
All of this should have been done for launch originally. COH2 has nearly all of these already. I'll possibly buy COH3 in March, assuming they continue working on bringing it up to standard until then.
thanks for your video！there is one more important bug is for the soldiers who are holding automatic weapons(bars and mg 42 light machine guns)there is no aim and shoot steps, all I can see is that they fire to some random directions while they are moving. Also the guns are also firing while the soldiers get cross the fence . The maps looks so beautiful and it doesn’t looks like a battlefield.
I couldn't agree more in terms of sound. It is definately my main concern right now. As you alluded to the volume of specific sound effects is simply too low and some sound effects are also just really bland (M1 garand..). On top of that the music has zero variety in matches. Its just one repetitive track that plays during calm sitations and one track that plays during engagements. I really hope Relic address, but I'm a little worried that they haven't acknowledged it at all so far.
I wish they added the following: When you have 2 or more units selected, and in the bottom right corner, there will be the unit cards in one group. When you double click on the card, the camera doesn't budge. Only if you double click on the unit profile avatar or on the card in the top corner (or bottom, depends where you have it in options), will the camera teleport to the unit. So basically. You double click on a unit card inside the selected group of units, the camera centers on that unit. A huge QoL problem.
Look at the P IV shooting. What is that ? Same with the Wespe arty rounds. They look like bad mortar explosions. Compare it to CoH 1 explosions, and you will scratch your head and ask : Why ?
Why did they removed the smoke from the muzzle flash of tanks etc.? I don't understand it. It was so immersive and now it is like nothing is there. Feels off to me.
Speaking about the returning to menus: who's idea was to make the top main menu button "continue the last campaign mission" on the same height, where multiplayer used to be in the old menu? Returning to main menu after each match it is a matter of time when you missclick the "continue" button, and it just sends you loading the mission without any questions. Then you have to watch the unskippable mission cut scene too. Even Alt+F4 is not working during the intro. You have to watch it all and only then can call the menu to exit back. Owch.
Weapons show up on the unit card now and can be hovered over to see what it is. Speaking of, some weapons got a new silhouette like the M1918 Johnson LMG and the Panzerusche AT rifle.
The suppression flashing is going to be very distracting and if people are photosensitive probably not terribly good either. I liked your bucket filling system but had no problem with the old suppression icons. Great video btw.
Having the unit card fill as it gets suppressed would be amazing. I think the flashing would be harder to distinguish, especially with multiple units affected.
Great video as Always, didnt press the button yet to buy coh3 since so many bad reviews and everyone says that coh2 its still better.. I have all dlcs for coh2 and you think its a good guy coh3 or should I wait for more fixes ?
I love direction COH3 is going now. Love the new visual changes. There's more contrast and the colors do pop out now and it's amazing! Can't wait for the game to be fully fleshed out though. I really hope this game to succeed. This franchise has too much potential to fail. It has too much depth to be taken for granted.
Thanks for your Input beforehand and for the great comprehension! Still a lot of work to do for CoH3, especially and overhaul of the sound effects which need to sound massive and brutal - also the unit speech (german factions) need to be reworked… but i think they are on a good way- looking forward to play it again 👍
Did you see any improvement to the delay when ordering units to do an action ? Like ordering an infantry unit to the right and then tellin them to go left a short while later. Great video :)
I'll wait another 6 months, i dont want to sink my teeth in to be burnt out by unpolished and frustrating things in the game. Its heading in the right direction, but still a long way to go.
All good in all. But did they add basic functions like AI difficulty in auto match vs AI, or filters? And also unit stances would be neat. But its improvement. Maybe ill reinstall it in about a year or so.
Thanks so much for making this! It does seem like there are some solid small improvements. As a huge fan of the Back to Basics mod for CoH1 (that's all I play pretty much now), my fingers are crossed that someone will be able to mod the general color scheme of CoH3, it's just still too pastel in nature to my eyes (I don't associate salmon pink and baby blue with war). Was hoping this would be the mod that did that but it doesn't look like they touched the colors much.
The huge thing that I actually wanted was just something simple. I wanted dropped weapons to be labeled as was standard in COH2. I can't for the life of me understand how this was not there on day 1 or the first patch. I'm still waiting for the mini map flags to be added back in. You know those confirmations you used to get when you selected rally here for each of your production buildings. I don't understand why this was removed. Was there a large mob dead set against this being in COH3????
amazing video. Tightrope never fails to deliver. also im glad theyre working hard on making coh3 playable. it was a horrible game at release especially the UI/UX, Sound and visuals. great to see theyre working on all these things. Will jump back into COH3 this weekend and test the new game out.
Tac map changes are great and the visual improvements amazing. If just the new sim city arty fest commanders werent here. Also, one thing that annoys me about the new tac map, the numbers for unit hotkeys don't show up. So I get confused if I already did bind that to 1,2,3 or if I forgot. Would be nice to get some sort of customization for this.
In my opinion the background background art should be tied to the last faction you selected, not just played, like how it was it CoH 1. If i recall correctly the loadingscreen art when booting up the game was also tied to the last faction/campaign you selected.
do you think they will add some new faction in future? i know its too early to talk about , because its good to improve the actual factions. but I would be happy with a new one, just like the Russians
Obwonder how many development resources went to this and if it was many. If it was a lot then rhose resources are freed up now. Meaning more content can be expected in the future.
Good UI changes, terrible homepage artwork image still, and the rendering changes….didn’t notice in the game. Your own recommendations are excellent. I play and thoroughly enjoy COH3, but it feels like it’s succeeding despite it’s best efforts not to. I think the art director on the project, or the quality of the some of the artists used, just isn’t up to the standard of previous Relic games. At its core though, it’s still great fun.
Im glad they are finally working on the UI in a meaningful way. Although, I think its rather questionable with the amount of new buffs/debuffs added by the new BG's, that there is no single possibility to check the effects of each buff while ingame, unless you are the one triggering said buffs/debuffs. This means you have to either own the new BG's, test them and learn by heart every single effect or you have to go externally to read upabout them. This is still very unacceptable for an RTS which supports its Multiplayer imo. I hope slap a lot more UI changes to the game in the next patch. My wish would be a Glossary of all things concerning in-game: Units, Buildings, effects etc.
This seems so amazing too bad I got to wait until Spring of 2024 because I'm a console player 😭 but I'm still excited for the update it'll definitely be worth the wait
I hope they still work on the graphics and audio going forward, but most of what they did is good. One change I dislike is the mortar though; the new explosion looks cheap.
The US soldier in the updated main menu has the same unit patch as me. (34th ID) I'm a huge fan of the Company of Heroes series, and playing it helps me in my military career in a way.
Having only played the Tech Tests early on and choosing to not purchase the game, I decided to purchase yesterday and play. I gotta say, I had a fucking blast. The game isn't perfect. The new doctrines are strong to say the least, but I had a good time and that's what I want from CoH3 - a fun game. Is the game perfect? Absolutely not. Does it provide many hours of RTS fun? I believe so. Compared to CoH2, I thoroughly enjoy the difference in how the game is played. For example, a single house doesn't control a fuel point. Cut off plays and resource point control is much more versatile. Call downs felt far better than when I last played with them. So much feels improved and it gave me some hope tbh. CoH3 might have a future. If you've been hesitant to buy or return, I say give it a shot. It was fun :)
Adding more Hollywood fireballs to explosions kinda sucks tbh. I liked it more when there was just dust and smoke instead, like ya know, because this is not a Michael Bay movie. One thing they could improve with tac map is icon stacking. If icons are close enough to overlap each other - just stack them. And perhaps group them too, from left to right your units and then enemy units. And maybe an option to have the current overlap system instead, for those who wouldn’t like the icon stacking
At first I liked the more realistic approach but in watching hectic replays my eyes would find it hard to see the explosions, vs the way it was in Coh1/2. I guess I'm getting too old. :)
For me, they should’ve add more faction (Italy should have their own faction, and don’t forget to add Japanese faction and their Asia campaign) Fixed some bugs, remake sound effects, remake voice acting (i mean, VA in coh2 is just iconic af) It’s too bad to they won’t see my opinion
Me who loves playing COOP vs AI needs three level of AI's to fight against. The current static level is easy to overcome after some practice, so right now I'd love if I could search for games with harder AI
The fact that the menu bg has been changed ***now*** is hillarious to me as on of the original names on the og BG is not spelled correctly. Quite the miss for a big title.
I like the changes but I can't help but feel more upset about purchasing this game at release when it was so clearly in an early-access like state. All of this stuff really should have been at this level or higher at release.
Huge fan of COH. Bought the first one back when it released and had over 1200 games played. Same with COH2. I just can't justify spending $80 on any new game these days.... Especially when I hear it's the worst in the franchise. I'd try it for maybe $30 but that's pushing it
You know I don’t think I’ve ever seen a game double back on its art style like this. It’s actually quite. Refreshing. To see aesthetics being taken so seriously. Especially after the comically cartoony look the game had before
Fantastic comparison Tightrope, glad to see Relic improving so many visual and ui details with this patch.
I really like that new announcers sound , I hope we can get more like this
thanks for the great breakdown tightrope!
Tightrope, do you think it's to late for coh3 or they can still bring back a few thousand players and pull a darktide?
I think they can get there, it is just whether Sega will give them enough time to do so.
It might nearly be worth buying now. Crazy how so many basic things with sound and visuals were so slap dash on release.
Great Vid, rope. I can tell your vids are a great deal of work, so tyvm. I really enjoy these changes w the patch and look forward to seeing the game over the coming months
Fantastic coverage as always.
I feel like this should have been Coh3 1.0. Game was so half baked on release and it caused serious damage to the franchize. Heck, I'm finally ready to purchase the game, I'm glad they followed through
Think I might pick the game up now too. Never have I tracked a game for so long post release before deciding to buy. Just couldn't put myself through the obvious teething pains
This update is pretty good there is a lot of good changes. Let's hope they will give some love to the placeholder icons from CoH2 as well.
Very helpful comparisons and a nice break down of the visual changes. I've been holding off on buying the game but it's starting to look juicy!
Thanks for taking the time to build all of these comparisons.
I like what they did with unit lighting and explosion effects. I'm sure it is less realistic the way it makes vehicles appear to be drawn in black borders and then filled in with color (if that makes sense) than the style at launch where the vehicle details and lines were harder to distinguish but truer to life. And who doesn't like nice Hollywood explosion effects even if they aren't true to life either.
Looks like CoH3 starts to look a lot like a finished game...only took them a year 😅. Maybe I will consider it in spring...
I liked the smoke from the barrel, why get rid of that? It was a very cool visual albeit a bit heavy. Why get rid of it altogether? :(
Thanks for making this Tightrope, it’s nice to see you mention all the little things!
I was watching some CoH3 cast and noticed they ruined the explosion effects... what happened to the cool blast wave effect that was a selling point in one of the gameplay trailers if I remeber correctly...?
Liking that new announcement filter effect. The tanks muzzle flashes are a nice addition. Agreed on the lighting duration; seems too long. Did we lose some particles effect on the tank flash? At the same time, I wasn't too much of a fan on how low-res/pixelated the flash looked anyway.
The spark looking effects that are part of a lot of explosions do look low-res I agree
All of this should have been done for launch originally. COH2 has nearly all of these already. I'll possibly buy COH3 in March, assuming they continue working on bringing it up to standard until then.
thanks for your video！there is one more important bug is for the soldiers who are holding automatic weapons(bars and mg 42 light machine guns)there is no aim and shoot steps, all I can see is that they fire to some random directions while they are moving. Also the guns are also firing while the soldiers get cross the fence . The maps looks so beautiful and it doesn’t looks like a battlefield.
It would be one thing if I had seen Relic say it would impact performance, but I cannot fathom why the Tacmap isn't larger after all of these years.
I couldn't agree more in terms of sound. It is definately my main concern right now. As you alluded to the volume of specific sound effects is simply too low and some sound effects are also just really bland (M1 garand..). On top of that the music has zero variety in matches. Its just one repetitive track that plays during calm sitations and one track that plays during engagements.
I really hope Relic address, but I'm a little worried that they haven't acknowledged it at all so far.
I wish they added the following:
When you have 2 or more units selected, and in the bottom right corner, there will be the unit cards in one group. When you double click on the card, the camera doesn't budge. Only if you double click on the unit profile avatar or on the card in the top corner (or bottom, depends where you have it in options), will the camera teleport to the unit.
So basically. You double click on a unit card inside the selected group of units, the camera centers on that unit. A huge QoL problem.
Interesting as always, keep up the good work
Well done TIghtRope! Keep the suggestions coming. THEY ARE WATCHING!
Look at the P IV shooting. What is that ? Same with the Wespe arty rounds. They look like bad mortar explosions. Compare it to CoH 1 explosions, and you will scratch your head and ask : Why ?
Why did they removed the smoke from the muzzle flash of tanks etc.? I don't understand it. It was so immersive and now it is like nothing is there. Feels off to me.
Speaking about the returning to menus: who's idea was to make the top main menu button "continue the last campaign mission" on the same height, where multiplayer used to be in the old menu? Returning to main menu after each match it is a matter of time when you missclick the "continue" button, and it just sends you loading the mission without any questions. Then you have to watch the unskippable mission cut scene too. Even Alt+F4 is not working during the intro. You have to watch it all and only then can call the menu to exit back. Owch.
All are good, continue Relic.
Looks vastly better now. Lelic finally waking up
God video man, thinks that should be on 1st day but good to see after many patches, i just have to wait like 2 years more to properly play this game.
Another very informtive video. Tightrope is the best place to go if you want to know how COH3 works
I can't believe they're still replacing placeholder coh2 textures lol.
Finally the CoH3 release! Thank you Relic! 🎉
Weapons show up on the unit card now and can be hovered over to see what it is.
Speaking of, some weapons got a new silhouette like the M1918 Johnson LMG and the Panzerusche AT rifle.
Thanks for your video! Very good changes.
The suppression flashing is going to be very distracting and if people are photosensitive probably not terribly good either. I liked your bucket filling system but had no problem with the old suppression icons.
Great video btw.
Having the unit card fill as it gets suppressed would be amazing. I think the flashing would be harder to distinguish, especially with multiple units affected.
Finally! Update to lighting! Such an "easy" fix I was talking about since the day 1, that made a huge difference
the amount of games i played with guys not selecting their new battlegroup and leaving was a nightmare
Great video as Always, didnt press the button yet to buy coh3 since so many bad reviews and everyone says that coh2 its still better..
I have all dlcs for coh2 and you think its a good guy coh3 or should I wait for more fixes ?
Do you think we will get Soviets later down the line @tightrope ?
I love direction COH3 is going now. Love the new visual changes. There's more contrast and the colors do pop out now and it's amazing! Can't wait for the game to be fully fleshed out though. I really hope this game to succeed. This franchise has too much potential to fail. It has too much depth to be taken for granted.
Thanks for your Input beforehand and for the great comprehension! Still a lot of work to do for CoH3, especially and overhaul of the sound effects which need to sound massive and brutal - also the unit speech (german factions) need to be reworked… but i think they are on a good way- looking forward to play it again 👍
Did you see any improvement to the delay when ordering units to do an action ? Like ordering an infantry unit to the right and then tellin them to go left a short while later. Great video :)
I'll wait another 6 months, i dont want to sink my teeth in to be burnt out by unpolished and frustrating things in the game. Its heading in the right direction, but still a long way to go.
All good in all. But did they add basic functions like AI difficulty in auto match vs AI, or filters? And also unit stances would be neat.
But its improvement. Maybe ill reinstall it in about a year or so.
Who do we go to for premiere COH content? Tightrope. 🤟💪
Well done as always
Thanks so much for making this! It does seem like there are some solid small improvements. As a huge fan of the Back to Basics mod for CoH1 (that's all I play pretty much now), my fingers are crossed that someone will be able to mod the general color scheme of CoH3, it's just still too pastel in nature to my eyes (I don't associate salmon pink and baby blue with war). Was hoping this would be the mod that did that but it doesn't look like they touched the colors much.
The huge thing that I actually wanted was just something simple. I wanted dropped weapons to be labeled as was standard in COH2. I can't for the life of me understand how this was not there on day 1 or the first patch. I'm still waiting for the mini map flags to be added back in. You know those confirmations you used to get when you selected rally here for each of your production buildings. I don't understand why this was removed. Was there a large mob dead set against this being in COH3????
Very nice video, thanks!
amazing video. Tightrope never fails to deliver. also im glad theyre working hard on making coh3 playable. it was a horrible game at release especially the UI/UX, Sound and visuals. great to see theyre working on all these things. Will jump back into COH3 this weekend and test the new game out.
nice to see that ty for video
It’s as if the developers aren’t fans. If they were we’d have a more finished product. They don’t seem to care about the game at all.
I playd 2 matches after 1.4 patch both crashed witch bug splat so unplayble is fixed now?
All I want to know is where can I buy tightrope merchandise?
Tac map changes are great and the visual improvements amazing. If just the new sim city arty fest commanders werent here.
Also, one thing that annoys me about the new tac map, the numbers for unit hotkeys don't show up. So I get confused if I already did bind that to 1,2,3 or if I forgot. Would be nice to get some sort of customization for this.
In my opinion the background background art should be tied to the last faction you selected, not just played, like how it was it CoH 1. If i recall correctly the loadingscreen art when booting up the game was also tied to the last faction/campaign you selected.
do you think they will add some new faction in future? i know its too early to talk about , because its good to improve the actual factions. but I would be happy with a new one, just like the Russians
lighting change in Torrente was good but i thing african maps looked better before
I agree I generally prefer the previous desert map presentation
Obwonder how many development resources went to this and if it was many. If it was a lot then rhose resources are freed up now. Meaning more content can be expected in the future.
Good UI changes, terrible homepage artwork image still, and the rendering changes….didn’t notice in the game. Your own recommendations are excellent. I play and thoroughly enjoy COH3, but it feels like it’s succeeding despite it’s best efforts not to. I think the art director on the project, or the quality of the some of the artists used, just isn’t up to the standard of previous Relic games. At its core though, it’s still great fun.
Uow. looks very good !
Im glad they are finally working on the UI in a meaningful way.
Although, I think its rather questionable with the amount of new buffs/debuffs added by the new BG's, that there is no single possibility to check the effects of each buff while ingame, unless you are the one triggering said buffs/debuffs.
This means you have to either own the new BG's, test them and learn by heart every single effect or you have to go externally to read upabout them.
This is still very unacceptable for an RTS which supports its Multiplayer imo. I hope slap a lot more UI changes to the game in the next patch.
My wish would be a Glossary of all things concerning in-game: Units, Buildings, effects etc.
This seems so amazing too bad I got to wait until Spring of 2024 because I'm a console player 😭 but I'm still excited for the update it'll definitely be worth the wait
I hope they still work on the graphics and audio going forward, but most of what they did is good. One change I dislike is the mortar though; the new explosion looks cheap.
AGREE
The US soldier in the updated main menu has the same unit patch as me. (34th ID) I'm a huge fan of the Company of Heroes series, and playing it helps me in my military career in a way.
in what way?
@@PySnek It helps me with my multi-tasking abilities since the game is rather micro-intensive.
This is great!
I wonder when they will change the one battlegroup image of a whizbang when it doesn't even have the whizbang in its tree
Having only played the Tech Tests early on and choosing to not purchase the game, I decided to purchase yesterday and play. I gotta say, I had a fucking blast. The game isn't perfect. The new doctrines are strong to say the least, but I had a good time and that's what I want from CoH3 - a fun game.
Is the game perfect? Absolutely not. Does it provide many hours of RTS fun? I believe so. Compared to CoH2, I thoroughly enjoy the difference in how the game is played. For example, a single house doesn't control a fuel point. Cut off plays and resource point control is much more versatile.
Call downs felt far better than when I last played with them. So much feels improved and it gave me some hope tbh. CoH3 might have a future.
If you've been hesitant to buy or return, I say give it a shot. It was fun :)
Animations! Animations ! Coh1 animations are amazing, units roll on ground while shooting
When this patch comes live?
Muzzle flash and explosions actually look much better before.
This patch is insane :D
Good video👍
old tank shooting animations were better imho. the smoke looks so much cooler
Maybe one day COH3 will be worth playing xD
Adding more Hollywood fireballs to explosions kinda sucks tbh. I liked it more when there was just dust and smoke instead, like ya know, because this is not a Michael Bay movie.
One thing they could improve with tac map is icon stacking. If icons are close enough to overlap each other - just stack them. And perhaps group them too, from left to right your units and then enemy units. And maybe an option to have the current overlap system instead, for those who wouldn’t like the icon stacking
At first I liked the more realistic approach but in watching hectic replays my eyes would find it hard to see the explosions, vs the way it was in Coh1/2. I guess I'm getting too old. :)
They caved into making into making the explosions more hollywood.
I think the game used to look like this before people complained it was "too cartoony". Now it looks "great", I guess.
Maybe it's time to give COH3 a chance now
graphics changes is good really good.
For me, they should’ve add more faction (Italy should have their own faction, and don’t forget to add Japanese faction and their Asia campaign) Fixed some bugs, remake sound effects, remake voice acting (i mean, VA in coh2 is just iconic af)
It’s too bad to they won’t see my opinion
Now this game need more maps and more commanders
Me who loves playing COOP vs AI needs three level of AI's to fight against. The current static level is easy to overcome after some practice, so right now I'd love if I could search for games with harder AI
the sound ................... the sound PLEASE.....
Did nothing about arty sounds deafen players?
Finally i bought coh 3 today. 1000h coh 2 player ;)
The fact that the menu bg has been changed ***now*** is hillarious to me as on of the original names on the og BG is not spelled correctly.
Quite the miss for a big title.
You should be a game designer dude, some nice suggestions there.
Very good changes, but still waiting over a decade to spawn next to friends
is the update out on ps5
i hope they make some new campaigns
🎉 now the game looks better, good for relic 🎉
When spearhead?
Watch this video relic ❤
Lacking smoke abilities.
1.4 should have been the 1.0 but okay, at least they have listened to the community and made changes
I like the changes but I can't help but feel more upset about purchasing this game at release when it was so clearly in an early-access like state. All of this stuff really should have been at this level or higher at release.
they should bring back the victory strikes. Just fading to victory screen is boring.
Huge fan of COH. Bought the first one back when it released and had over 1200 games played. Same with COH2. I just can't justify spending $80 on any new game these days.... Especially when I hear it's the worst in the franchise. I'd try it for maybe $30 but that's pushing it
the thing is.. the grafic looks like coh 2
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After: desync