@@BPMR This is my local train operator. I'm only just watching this now after 6 months after watching another video of yours just now about the Silver Link rolling stock between 1997 and 2007. Very interesting.
Your series is particularly appreciated, as SR EMU types like sheep to me - I cant tell the difference so need to be educated. Great images and informative.
I wondered why did the Thameslink 377s are assigned to Southeastern instead of returning to Southern with some outliers transferred from Southern too. Southeastern has a lot of electrostars to cover for services.
That waste of new trains and money... Slam door train as a replacement makes formal new train better. Then against these new trains take scrapped and other make a new bendy train again at all the UK! This is so ridiculously it is! 😒
Since the D.O.O monitors have been comissioned on the branch and the stop car marks for both 2 and 4 car units renewed, we now use 4 car units on the Branch. They might still occasionally use a 466 if that's all that is available but last few times I've been on there it's been a 4 car. Both METCAMs and BRELs :)
No not with a lone 466, They would require refurbishment to accommodate recent changes in the accessibilities laws, things like the grab rails, door buttons etc need to be updated. Not massive amounts of work, but work that they decided not to carry out.
Some networkers are being placed into storage up in Worksop as the Class 707s get delivered. I fear that they will eventually meet the same fate as the similar Class 365's and go for scrap. At the moment nothing has been announced about their future.
The rumours had been going around for some time but my personal opinion is that the pandemic has caused plans to change or be delayed until they know for certain if passengers will return to pre-pandemic levels any time soon.
I watched the previous episode and drove all the slam door units, which i considered, along with a lot of other drivers, had better braking systems having epb ( electro pneumatic brake ) and auto brake ( westinghouse ). We were told you couldn't beat the on board computer giving better and smoother braking experience for the travelling passengers. No, but you could feather the brakes, whereas i personally have had a 465 8 car unit ( 4x4 ) skid through a station with all wheels locked up, but the download proved, all door interlock working and speed shown as 0 mph. I was completely exhonerated for something i didn't do. I have been retired for 20 years now, most trains i ever drove are gone, most of the network has changed and i don't recognise the places . At one point 465187 was the first networker to have hidden cameras, any cameras visible were made out of cardboard and were dummys, they were often vandalised, the real cameras were hidden elsewhere. The first station cameras stolen were taken from woolwich dockyard.
Thank you, I just missed driving slam doors by a couple of years. Just jumped straight into driving 377’s 455’s and 456’s. I had a 455 slide from Mickeham Tunnel all the way to Leatherhead one Sunday morning. Nothing I could do as I watched a SWT service cross in front of me at the junction. Luckily it cleared in time and I slid straight passed the signal as it came off.
I would probably doubt it. It's not impossible but would require monies to be spent. Southern have managed to operate 313's without toilets between Brighton and Portsmouth.
skip to 8:35 why is there 2 different trains attached to each other like half is from southern but it has the south eastern logo like wat since when and it looks so ugly lol 2 completely different trains put together
The Southern unit is a Class 377 on loan to South Eastern. They haven’t gotten around to applying the SE livery in case the units return to Southern. There’s a few running around like that.
Saw a pair of 707s at Hither Green yesterday on the up fast on test at around 11:00
Great video. ☺️ Can't wait to watch it.
Hope you like it!
@@BPMR This is my local train operator. I'm only just watching this now after 6 months after watching another video of yours just now about the Silver Link rolling stock between 1997 and 2007. Very interesting.
Thank you for another interesting and insightful video,
Thank you
Your series is particularly appreciated, as SR EMU types like sheep to me - I cant tell the difference so need to be educated. Great images and informative.
Thank you, I'm glad you are enjoying the series
I wondered why did the Thameslink 377s are assigned to Southeastern instead of returning to Southern with some outliers transferred from Southern too. Southeastern has a lot of electrostars to cover for services.
Great video 👍🏻 I guess you could argue south eastern already has a much more modern fleet than alot of opertors in the UK
That is very true
That waste of new trains and money... Slam door train as a replacement makes formal new train better. Then against these new trains take scrapped and other make a new bendy train again at all the UK! This is so ridiculously it is! 😒
16:15 The front of this livery looks so much better than the one Southeastern used.
It's a shame that they didn't follow the mock up. I still haven't had a chance to catch a shot of one yet on the South Eastern
@@BPMR Same I've only seen the SWT ones. I think only 707009/10 has the SE blue livery currently.
12:30 so no more 466 on Bromley North branch?
Not on their own anymore. I was a 465 at Grove park the other day on the Bromley North line.
Since the D.O.O monitors have been comissioned on the branch and the stop car marks for both 2 and 4 car units renewed, we now use 4 car units on the Branch. They might still occasionally use a 466 if that's all that is available but last few times I've been on there it's been a 4 car. Both METCAMs and BRELs :)
@Blaze646Epic SE have 375/3s on these routes with 4-car 375's on the peak time Medway valley
Nice thumbnail, I drove 466003 just the other day!
Thank You, Whilst I've never driven the 465/466s I have been fortunate enough to route learn in them.
Nice Thumbnail at Grove Park!
Thank You. I was driving an engineering train and stopped in the right place for a few minutes
Nice video! Why didn't the class 376 get air conditioning? Seems stupid that they didn't considering it's built to handle high capacity.
Thank you. The 376s were built on the cheap.
The doors open very regularly so there is no point fitting aircon because the benefit would be lost
Great video, does the bromley north shuttle not run a 466 alone anymore?
No not with a lone 466, They would require refurbishment to accommodate recent changes in the accessibilities laws, things like the grab rails, door buttons etc need to be updated. Not massive amounts of work, but work that they decided not to carry out.
networkers 1 units has been scape but the remaining in limbo what will happen with the old networkers where will go from end of 2021
Some networkers are being placed into storage up in Worksop as the Class 707s get delivered. I fear that they will eventually meet the same fate as the similar Class 365's and go for scrap. At the moment nothing has been announced about their future.
keep the networkers and put them on hetaige rail ways lines
I heard the rumour of 376's going to Southern? But, nothing set in stone as yet.
The rumours had been going around for some time but my personal opinion is that the pandemic has caused plans to change or be delayed until they know for certain if passengers will return to pre-pandemic levels any time soon.
@@BPMR. I would say that is more likely with this pandemic.
The 376s aren't going anywhere. The 707s will replace some networkers.
I watched the previous episode and drove all the slam door units, which i considered, along with a lot of other drivers, had better braking systems having epb ( electro pneumatic brake ) and auto brake ( westinghouse ). We were told you couldn't beat the on board computer giving better and smoother braking experience for the travelling passengers. No, but you could feather the brakes, whereas i personally have had a 465 8 car unit ( 4x4 ) skid through a station with all wheels locked up, but the download proved, all door interlock working and speed shown as 0 mph. I was completely exhonerated for something i didn't do. I have been retired for 20 years now, most trains i ever drove are gone, most of the network has changed and i don't recognise the places . At one point 465187 was the first networker to have hidden cameras, any cameras visible were made out of cardboard and were dummys, they were often vandalised, the real cameras were hidden elsewhere. The first station cameras stolen were taken from woolwich dockyard.
Thank you, I just missed driving slam doors by a couple of years. Just jumped straight into driving 377’s 455’s and 456’s. I had a 455 slide from Mickeham Tunnel all the way to Leatherhead one Sunday morning. Nothing I could do as I watched a SWT service cross in front of me at the junction. Luckily it cleared in time and I slid straight passed the signal as it came off.
I hope in the future 707s get toilets so they can run mainline duties very frequently.
This makes the 465 more reliable
I would probably doubt it. It's not impossible but would require monies to be spent. Southern have managed to operate 313's without toilets between Brighton and Portsmouth.
@@BPMR hmm, well let's hope they get some mainline duties then :^)
@@TEBEnthusiast they are already reliable on long journeys tbh. Met camms are very good at accelerating tbh and are pretty comfy imo.
@@bb-3653 I agree
skip to 8:35 why is there 2 different trains attached to each other like half is from southern but it has the south eastern logo like wat since when and it looks so ugly lol 2 completely different trains put together
The Southern unit is a Class 377 on loan to South Eastern. They haven’t gotten around to applying the SE livery in case the units return to Southern. There’s a few running around like that.
It's an Ex-Southern Class 377, operated by Southeastern. Those are 377 163 or 377 164.
I personally dont like the 375s they just have no character ive always liked the 465s
376 looks like a 378
The 378s came later but took many of their design features from the 376.
Rip southeastern franchise lol