Edit 00: I have received the correction about Tau. Shut up, then tell me about Taoism. Edit 0: There is a 5 hour abridged version on the video page where gameplay segments have been cut. Edit 1: I have posted a link in the description to my blog, where you can read the full text of the video. Edit 2: This video is likely THE video that gives my channel monetization status. I am infinitely grateful to everyone who has enjoyed it, and helped me reach this point! (I promise not to load this video with a billion ads) Edit 3: I have received some very helpful feedback about the editing, and the need for the script to cover more of the gameplay. I will implement this in future videos of this format! Edit 4: I have made a note in the description about the Entrati lore as it relates to the Chains of Harrow quest section. "WarFrame & Autism" Some of you may be wondering at the odd format of this video essay. I realized that for people not in the warframe community, there is little awareness of the story. So to deliver the philosophical influences on the story, I also had to tell it. In Full. It's definitely different, but I would love your feedback on this format, and how i may improve it for other such video game epics in the future.
At no point am I really seeing you engage with the actual extant Warframe Iceberg, so your title is a little wanting, and I think that telling a story in full may not necessarily call for long stretches of wave defense missions with no commentary presented unedited. Like I get that you were capturing the journey, I guess, but I feel like the bulk of the runtime of this video essay is just... nothing. Your entire hour long piece on Leviathan was maybe two paragraphs, and one of those was your introductory framing of the base concept and the other was actually just several independent sentences or fragments that hinted at a clear purpose but went with so much nothing between them that they fell flat. What sucks is that your ideas seem generally on point, but this staggered delivery really does you zero favors. I would have liked to hear you actually develop the concepts you present, but you... don't. You could maybe use an editor, not for the video elements, but for your script. I feel like most pre-readers would have told you that nine hours of mostly dead air is a bit of a bad call. Don't get me wrong, I found enjoyment here, but I found it amidst literally hundreds of "skip ahead" inputs.
@@ClockworkMinion I agree with what you said. Several times, i found myself thinking, "why am i watching extended gameplay". needs to edit the missions down to what's necessary.
@@SocraTetris Accept it. I was thinking the exact same thing after being only 1 hour in. I have a Sociology and Economics bachelor and a phd in Philosophy and let me tell you, even though the format is a bit unorthodox for the Academia in my country, I really don't think they would scoff at your work. You invested just as much if not more time, interest, research and passion than any Philosophy phd Candidate (and that's saying something because they have to put in a lot of hours too) I get your video is not for everybody. I myself write long (3000 -5000 word) articles on my subjects of passion but this... this is on a whole different level. For those who want deep dives (and there is an audience for this, small and select though it is), this is the kind of work they are looking for. In a world of quick fixes and instant gratification, this work brings some hope and shows us that depth and substance has not fully been forgotten. It may have fallen out of fashion on a collective level, but there are still devotees of divibg deep and loremasters such as yourself. For those who are open to content like this, who do not want 10 or 30 minutes quick fixes, but an actual full on analysis, this is Gold! It's like going through a really consistent Compendium (I dare not call this video simply a book for it is much more), but it also has gameplay and a compelling narative complete with the personal reflections of the author. Other than not following the classical written format of a doctoral thesis, in every other aspect this is functionally exactly that: an in-depth well documented, carefully and painstakingly crafted work of both scientific reflection and art. I don't know by what objective criteria you would classify your work as anything less than a full blown phd Thesis but in my humble opinion, no essential difference can be made beteen the two. You're free to have your own opinion of course, but I really resonate with Sitchrea's reply. I just found your video, so I couldn't comment earlier. But if I could, I too would have said your video feels like whitnessing a really well done philosophy Phd! Congratulations!
@@SocraTetris I ended up enjoying it, but I have about 5 hours left. Say, with such a name as that you wouldn’t ever consider doing tetris content would you? 🙂
To be fair, an hour and a half of my time is precious. What if I commit to a movie I don’t like? *scrolls for 3 hours trying to find a movie then just goes to bed*
From what I gathered from the wiki, he's in charge of the Corpus solar rails and uses them to find Warframe cryopods (and presumably other artifacts as well) so he can sell them.
@@SocraTetris add me to that list too. There are many types of humor. You may have others in your arsenal as well, but in this case it was the kind of humor that doesn't send you bursting with laughter, externalizing the energy. Rather, it's the kind of humor (which I'm a big fan of) that lights up the eyes and steals a genuine smile of happiness that comes from recognizing and resonating with what the one telling the joke is saying. Your humor is funny because it takes an almost trivial thing (the sargeant doesn't do much but he can turn invisible), and turns it into something significant for us, because it's significant and funny to you, and we resonate. I liked the perspective, it made me chuckle with glee!
@@samiamtheman7379 One thing worth mentioning is he used to be named Nef Anyo, and after his namechange due to Anyo showing up in the plot proper, he's kinda just been a placeholder, doomed to a similar fate like Phorid as an early-dev designed boss in an era which has far evolved past that.
There's fairly common rough spots, especially around the series of events leading up to the old war and tenno rebellion, but I do like the inclusion of a lot of the in-game stories that other lore summaries lack, giving it more first-person accounts, as well as discussing the links to historical philosophies or stories and their differences. Nice.
Oh absolutely. There were so many hard decisions about what wasn't included just so that this thing didn't become 24 hours long! For example, my favorite part of the Confucianism theme is how the Technocyte Infested are like family to the Warframes, the conversations with have with them, and the culmination of the themes in the Deimos story quests. (Future Video I'm thinking about how to execute on). Could have gone harder into the economic/revolutionary themes with Fortuna. The Environmentalist themes with Cetus, New Loka, and The Red Veil. Ugh! Anyway, there is far more potential, and my video is absolutely not definitive. Everyone else's lore summaries are extremely helpful!
@@SocraTetris We could never tell history from day to day events. Its the same for something as rich and complex as warframe. We can just choose what is best to say about its history for it to make sense and tell most or the story.
@@spam_1224 A bit late, but it's not terribly accurate in places and makes assumptions that the lore we have contradicts. Not enough to dismiss the whole thing, and I don't see anyone else doing 9 hour lore videos.
Remark: The Tau System, the Sentients were sent to, refers to a solar system, most likely Tau Ceti, not a galaxy. They were also not sentient, when they were sent to Tau, but gained sentience through adaption during their terraforming efforts.
@@frank8917 The Orokin designed the Tau-bound sentient predecessors in a way, that they could not adopt to the void. (That's the reason, why void-attacks reset the damage-adaption of a sentient.) The void would "poison" a sentient, one effect being, that they would not be able to reproduce after a voyage through the void. This was most likely to keep them from spreading uncontrollably.
@@AmadrathSo they are fatally weak to the Void, however natah's mother body blocked for the sentients using cephalon energy, she's now burnt out in the sun, braindead. However the rest of the sentients are now sterile instead of dead, That is why natah adopted the tenno, she wanted to be a mother
@@AmadrathSO THAT IS WHAT THE LOTUS MEANS BY "CHANGE YOUR ATTACK TYPE" when fighting sentients???? I SWEAR TO GOD, I have been bashing my head, swapping guns, abilities and what not!!!!!!!!! This game does not explain ANYTHING, dude.
no, a format that is made to be easily consumible by how short it is and structure made to fit that time limit would not be able to fully express the whole story even though it would still be cool because warframe. A full blown long, well constructed comic, series or books would be able to do that tho.
Absolutely. I would also really like to see linear, adventure games in this world. Each Warframe has its own story of how it came to be. Prime fodder for standalone games!
@@SocraTetris Yeah, totally. I for example could really imagine a game about the orokin days in the style of the Bioshock games. There are so many possabilities
*Zooms through the facility, blasting and slashing everyone in the path, explosions and death screams fill the air.* "Keep going, no one knows you're there Tenno."
@@dustinscott9888 was in a mission with a guy using a kuva tonkor literally nuking the world and typed in chat “The pinnacle of stealth…they can’t be alerted if they’re all dead.”
It's a bit like calling a Katana a Samurai. Let me elaborate: Disregarding the fact that Samurai also had bows and other weapons they're still mostly associated with the Katana in modern times, yet it's simply a (very iconic) weapon while a Samurai stays a Samurai even if they are unarmed. In Warframe context an Operator is still a Tenno even if they don't have a Warframe equipped, it's just the thing they are usually associated with. The lack of a Warframe (like in War Within and possibly Duviri) doesn't strip them of their Tenno identity.
@@RallenCaptura In a video about _comprehending_ Warframe Lore, the separation is a must. Ignoring this is like saying the Samurai is a Katana used by soldiers in Japanese medieval times during a documentary meant for giving concrete information.
Hello everyone. Sorry i'm late to responding to this thread. What is stated earlier in the video is not representative of what is stated later in the video. This is due to the reveal of the relationship between Tenno and Warframe is a spoiler for a specific quest in the game. This can be hard for us to remember, as it has been years since that reveal, but new players should be able to enjoy the reveal when possible.
Bro this is literally underrated! I am also a lore addict in Warframe, yet I still learned a lot from this! Great job man, this deserves a million views!
This is so beautifully narrated. My new favourite audiobook. After 500 hours in the game I decided to actually care about what's going on and I feel grateful to have found this.
I was literally about to redo all the quests from the very beginning to recall the story before NW, and then this gem appeared. You've created something that no one knew they needed until now.
I was curious for a couple months now how long the video of all quest dialogue would be. I wish there was a feature in Codex to review the dialogue without replaying it
1:45:00 One thing I don't know if you caught, the "Arcane Machine" is actually a Sentient skull, the object on the pedestal. And that Sentient is none other than Natah. How do we know this? Well, what was Natah supposed to do after the Old War? Kill the Tenno and wake up the Sentients. What does the Arcane Machine (Sentient fragment) do at the end of Stolen Dreams? It sends out a system-wide message that the Tenno are dead, the "Womb in the Sky" is silent and calm, and that it's safe for the Sentient to reawaken. I am so surprised nobody ever realizes that without the events of Stolen Dreams, the New War and really all of Warframe's modern story would never have happened. That's why the quest is called "Stolen Dreams" - we steal the future away from millions, if not billions of innocent people because the ramifications of collecting the fragmented bits of Natah's code and sending out the all-clear message leads directly to the return of the Sentients. Stolen Dreams is an incredibly important quest, despite its very dated writing.
This was absolutely something I missed. I just figured that Natah, as a Sentient Mimic, just simply transformed into the shape of Margulis. The message definitely makes sense as the final message of Natah's final sequence. But I wonder why it wasn't in The Lotus's voice, if that is the case? Is there more evidence for this?
I am sorry, but I'm not buying this. The message is clearly in Hunhow's voice. It is also paired with the second message 'Here we shall search and find. The eyes of day drinking the night'. So it's not the last thing it transmits, and what would the Sentient search for if it was signalling the completion of the sequence? 'The Womb in the Sky' is what the Sentient are calling Lua (don't know if the video mentions it, didn't get to the Second Dream part). They call it that because Lua gave birth to the Tenno-controlled warframes (and is in the Earth's sky, duh). It is empty because Hunhow can't see it, only the fragments of Lua's crust orbiting Earth. Hunhow suspects it was hidden somehow, but he couldn't find it. Later in the opening of the Second Dream he also mentions the Womb in the Sky forbidden to his kind where the Stalker would bring him, as he later realised Lua must be in the Void. The messages thus refer to Hunhow or rather his drones Oculysts searching for Lua. The fragment on top of the machine must also be of his origin. I still don't know what the part about eyes of day is supposed to mean, some vague metaphors which are common in early Warframe lore.
@@TennoSkoom This is more where my thoughts aligned. I had assumed that because Hunhow used the same language, that the message must also have been Hunhow. (Hunhow's voice is quite a bit deeper when not in the message though). I don't think expressly explain very well that the Tenno Reservoir on Lua and the metaphorical "womb of the sky" are the same, because I think the quests do the associations well enough once we get there. (Though when watching with my fiancee, she still had a lot of, "Wait, what just happened?" moments! lol)
Uh, so I was thinking about those 'eyes of day drinking the night' a bit (because what else I would do). And again, I don't know yet if the video mentions it, but it becomes more clear if you listen to Natah dialogue at Ropalolyst. The Sentient seem to refer to themselves and their essence metaphorically as 'light'. Probably it has a literal meaning too, because they have glowing cores at their hearts. When she talks about their evolution on the way to Tau, she refers to their light being changed. The day as opposed to the night might mean the same, or it may mean the Sentient presence in general. So the 'eyes of day' may literally mean Hunhow's eyes or Sentient's eyes. And the night is still up to interpretation. The real question is: am I looking too deep into DE's lazy writing or not?
For the length of this video, it is incredibly impressive how much editing and care was put into it - However, I definitely do wish more of the fat was trimmed. The use of in-game elements and quests to show these events is excellent, but often finds itself dragging along incredibly slow. Either cutting out pieces that are purely standard gameplay, or commentating over their slow sections with other relevant lore/discussion while they play out, could turn this video from a top tier to a top ten. There's a ton of potential here, and I think in trying to force yourself to trim it down and being made to weigh what's important enough to keep, can make your future work nearly unmatched in presentation.
True I tend to listen to these types of videos while I work so the game play elements while cool got a bit tedious as I kept having to pause the video and fast foreward to get to the important story elements.
I’m at 6:39:00 while writing this, so may have to modify or delete afterwards Something doesn’t feel quite… right : the man in the wall cannot be Rell nor Rell’s creation… The logs situated in Entrati’s hub denies that. The man in the wall, as said in the quest line is, and always has been there : - war within, tenno’s father quote : “something is watching us kiddo” - Palatino : “it’s an entity, as old as stars themselves” - Entrati’s logs : the first ever man to leap into void saw it, an entity, taking his form and his voice. Which finger was severed when he closed the door fleeing this thing. This entity in the void, always watching those who enter its realm, that has given the tennos their power. Who appears to us once we hold the burden to protect reality from it. Appearing in the orbiter, its finger missing, finger that swelled to absurd proportions, confined now as the reactor of our railjack. It’s far older than the tennos or anything else.
Not to mention that the Void is *always* described as a infinite, starless black nothingness by every log and every character in the game going back even to quotes from 2012, yet when we as Tenno look at the Void, it's a gorgeous white and blue ocean of color and light. This is classic Warframe diagetic storytelling; the Tenno are avatars of the Void God, so it makes total sense that we perceive the Void itself differently than everyone else.
Before marathoning this video, OML this is dedication! Whole 9 hours dedicated to explain everything?! I hope you add timestamp chapters to easily jump into specific topics...
lol, Thank you! and I would like to, but for whatever reason UA-cam doesn't let me do that on the back end yet. I keep checking, but *shrug*. If I can figure it out, I will put them up when I'm able
@@SocraTetris You're welcome, being able to jump on parts would help with accessibility with regards to this monument of a video :) I'm around the Natah portion, and so far the lengthy gameplay is novel for an explainer, though refreshing. There some parts where I think the gameplay needed some additional voiceovers (either for explanation or just flavor voices) to maintain the pace. One part so far would be where the "boss gauntlet" happened with Lephantis, Kril, Sergeant, Kril+Vor, but it picks up again upon arriving at Regor.
I agree with that. I actually wrote the very lengthy script before I decided on the even lengthier format. (None of the video essayists I spoke to played Warframe or knew anything about it!) The VO is somewhere between 3-4 hours. The next time I use this format, I think I need to write it from a more aggressively first-person perspective. That should fill out those longer gaps, like you said.
- The parents on the Zariman didn't just die. They went insane and the kids had to kill them. A big detail you left out. - The kids weren't immediately chosen to control the Warframes. The Orokin tried to make the frames autonomous and failed, then discovered the sleeping kids could control them. Also in this section you refer to only the Warframes as Tenno but really the kids are what we call Tenno. - "Marghulis, the Lotus" Marghulis is not the Lotus, Natah is. Marghulis is dead. - You referred to Simaris as an AI. Cephalons are not AI, as AI was blasphemy to the Orokin. Cephalon are essentially human minds made digital. In the same vein, you refer to Ordis as the "ship's computer" when Cephalon is more apt, had you explained what a Cephalon was earlier. That said, I'm only halfway through and I'll finish it later but despite my gripes this is a really comprehensive and well made lore video. I'm glad someone put it all together in one place.
@@SocraTetris Well I did finish it and I maintain that this is a top notch production that was worth the time investment. It was good to have a refresher on the story before The New War as well as hear some of your more interesting interpretations of certain story beats. Well done, I look forward to watching more of your content.
@@maskettaman1488 clearly it does matter tho. And over a hundred people agreed it mattered. Some of the details were minor or missing an interesting or crucial fact. Like the identity of the lotus doesn’t quack or waddle like your duck, one flys one doesn’t. It’s an important price of lore yet one that can get confused.
@@maskettaman1488 which part you saying isn’t important to the lore? Because several were listed and you said it wasn’t important. And if you’re talking about the identity of the lotus isn’t important than your kinda just dumb. Her identity was been one of the biggest Therese through out the story thus far.
Definatley a few minor inaccuracies here in there, but the dedication to making this video is impressive to say the least. Super interesting to hear your perspective on everything. Subscribed.
Only Minor inaccuracies is what strive for! lol. At the end of the day, I can still tell people, "Well, if you want a better idea of it, you should really play the game yourself."
Alad V story has to be the most confusing. It's seemingly non linear but somehow it makes more sense if it was and kind of hard to keep track of. It's like he has a new job title everytime you turn your back. One day he is a pilot, then a billionaire, then a priest then homeless then a pirate.
Lol, yeah. Trying to coalesce the timeline of the games events rather than just the background lore is confusing. This is why I opted for using the starchart itself as a timeline, since it offers main quests in a vaguely linear pattern.
I LOVE the autism section of the video brother. I have C-PTSD (16 different diagnosis), so I can truly empathize my friend. Thank you so much for sharing that very personal side of yourself. You just earned a 100% dedicated fan/subscriber #sharinganhiro🥷🏾🙏🏾
So having sat through the Plato section so far I wasn't actually very familiar with Plato's Republic, so I wouldn't have made that connection but you've made a bunch of really interesting connections I wouldn't have thought of. Honestly I do appreciate the analysis here because so many of the people who are doing "lore" videos can run into the issue of ignoring themes in favor of just straightforwardly recounting events as they happened (That's not to throw shade, that's a common trap that a lot of people fall into when discussing media broadly). Outside of some rough spots in terms of chronology in here this video is pretty good.
I agree. That's the main reason I wanted to make this. I have also been trying to be vocal about supporting the lore community around Warframe, and not to take this video as definitive. (And the other motive was that I wanted my fiancee specifically to know the story, because there's no way she'll have time to get into the game. I won't be typing this anywhere else, lol).
About 2h into the video, and one major problem I have is how much of the video is just straight up gameplay. It grinds the flow of the video to a screeching halt for minutes at a time, and I don't think it provides enough substance on its own to be included over a cut together montage of sorts running through the quests or a compilation of the most important voicelines.
I really like this video format. It's one third lore dump, one third walkthrough, and one third philosophical discussion. I would enjoy taking a class taught by you.
This is excellent. I'm gonna keep coming back to this periodically during and after the new war. I knew Warframe's lore was unique but they way you've put it together makes it feel like a hardcore scifi epic.
This is such a nice comment, Oluseun! That's exactly what I wanted to communicate. Because, for me, it absolutely is a hardcore, scifi epic. So I want people who aren't invested in the grind to be able to experience the story, and what it means, too.
@@SocraTetris No, thank you. This evidently required more than a little elbow grease and I'm really enjoying the philosophical asides that you're providing. This stuff is great gamer bate as every reference you drop is causing me to search for a vid on the subject, so I've always got something to listen to while I grind medallions and steel essence in anticipation for Harrow Prime. Anyways, good work, keep doing you.
Ive been waiting for a video like this for so lonf honestly. This game is both fortunately deep enough to warrent such a time sink but sadly so much of a time dedication that im not shocked more videos like this dont exist. Major thanks
As far as I could find on the wiki explaining The Sergeant's purpose, it says that he's in charge of the Corpus solar rail systems, using them to obtain Warframe cryopods for resale to rogue scientists and splinter groups.
HOW DOES THIS HAVE ONLY 4K VIEWS!!! This has to be one of the best videos I have ever seen on UA-cam. I really hope the algorithm will bless this channel very soon.
It seems to be picking up! Right now the video is still on the upward swing, and I hope it can stay that way. I haven't had a video perform this well since 2017! XD. But it's on track to be my most popular video
Only 45 minutes in but, this feels like it would take more effort to make than a doctoral dissertation. Then re-editing like a defense. This is monumental. Truly an insane effort. I appreciate it greatly so far.
Love the vid, just 1 critique: the gameplay sections could have been significantly cut down. The voicelines are important but 2 minutes of you running to extraction didn't really sound too nice in the background whilst im playing the same game. Hope this skyrockets your channel,, tenno
Allowing that DE sometimes throws in ideas that they forget about or just don't follow up on, I'm interested in 2:40:39 where the Lotus says that she can't see the Sentient but suspects that there's something there. DSiege recently (briefly) pondered the duality of Natah and the Lotus (hints in later quests and the New War), wondering if each may be working against the other, sometimes hiding knowledge from one another. Teshin clearly thinks she's hiding something (intentionally or not).
That would be interesting, but I think they aren't going to go the direction that there are two personalities in conflict. More like she has two values in conflict (care for her family and care for the Tenno). Also, some memory shenanigans are happening, but don't know exactly what.
note: the warframe cryopods in defense missions are volunteer citizens electing to become warframes. You build three parts to a warframe, the rest comes with a volunteer's body. also thanks for the flashbacks to my early days in warframe, that mag color scheme had me reeling
I very much appreciated hearing your thoughts, especially on the deeper, philosophical aspects of the world. For example, even something as simple as the concept of corpus as family never really crossed my mind. I'm glad to have listened to all you had to say. But as valuable as all this was, from the parts where only gameplay is shown, the story is told in-game, and little to no commentary is there to accompany it, I must say I gained nothing. Don't get me wrong, a cutaway to a relevant part of dialogue would have been great, but I did not need to see gameplay of entire missions. I think I would have preferred a video with way less direct gameplay, and that would also cut down the enormous 9h running time of it and make it more approachable for a broader, perhaps less dedicated audience All that being said, don't let any of that make you averse to long-form content or dissuade you from making thoughtful videos, such as this one. Godspeed on your journey, I'm excited to hear what else you have to share!
I agree completely, long sections of gameplay without commentary is not what I signed up for and almost made me stop watching on several occasions. I would have vastly preferred if the silent bits without any dialogue were cut out and only the relevant parts were kept, or at the very least if a running commentary had been 9n place over those parts.
Yeah I’m thinking of skipping but it also feels like I’m gonna miss some important stuff but it’s too much fluff, especially in contrast to the high quality analysis in the rest of the video
I can only echo this statement, the parts where hes actually discussing the deeper ideas are really interesting but I don't enjoy skipping through typical warframe busy work to get to those parts.
That Ropalolyst loadout was.. different. Anyway, great work. I enjoyed the philosophical exploration within the story, and it was a nice refresher for the next step. The format is interesting. There are so many story bits of dialogue in the missions as you play, but I do feel that some of the regular mission gameplay could be cut for times sake. Overall, thoroughly enjoyed the video.
Maybe it's already been noted somewhere in the comments but I'd like to point out a discrepancy very early in the video regarding the Tenno. You refer to what the Dax become as the tenno and say the children inhabit the Tenno body's but those body's were just precursor warframes. The term Tenno refers to the children themselves, a play on the Zariman Ten-Zero (10-0 = ten O)
Every time you aimed that bow at a container and missed I felt it. Especially the fact that you did not even try a second time. You admitted defeat. You felt hurt and swallowed it. I felt a deep pain that connects us. We are one. Thank you for this video.
@@YOURteacher_100 well yes however these blue people are essential the reason the entire universe became the way it is nowadays. I would like to know more about them in the future, not only their wars but see more about their society and lifes
This is the most in-depth, complete, and informative masterpiece of research on a piece of art I have ever read/seen. The perspective and lore learned from you has turned an MMO into a living, breathing universe for me. I thank you immensely for renewing my passion for this game.
I think this is a great effort after watching the first chapter; I don't have a lot of free time for this long video, but I'll watch each chapter before the new war.
Man, I started playing Warframe back when it first released, before there was really any story at all. I took long breaks and would come back to find the whole game had changed several times, slowly completing these disconnected quest lines. I never had any clue that there was any cohesive storyline under it all. Thanks for creating this. Now I feel a little bit more immersed in the world I spend forever playing in.
this is what all people seeking lore where lookin for, not some weird 10 minute *guide/explination* that only scratches the surface of the lore… big thx man
Very informative, just one tiny bit of constructive criticism: This video didn't need 30+ minutes of gameplay lol, I probably missed some lore because I had to keep skipping 10 minute sections of commentary-less gameplay
While I agree to an extent. I personally enjoyed it as It gave the missions more weight and allowed me to follow the story better. But that might be because I've not played these missions 100+ times. I also enjoyed watching him evolve over the time he played.
I kept thinking I accidentally skipped to a video of gameplay lol The extra 2 hours of useless gameplay really make the "explained in 9 hours" in the title a bit of a lie
Now as I'm watching through TWW part, I have to correct what I believe to be some crucial mistakes. Firstly, the Queens' throne room is not the Seven's room. It isn't mentioned anywhere, and just isn't plausible, as the Queens were banished from the Orokin Empire even before it fell and couldn't have any connection to the Seven. It is possible though that the throne room is a repurposed Yuvan Theater for the Queens to perform Continuity, however this is just a speculation. Secondly, the Worm Queen isn't a clone. It is stated unambiguously in the Kuria poem. The Queens were of Orokin origin and were identical tweens - something Orokin regarded as a sin, as they were mich too like the slave caste - the Grineer. This was in fact the exact reason the Grineer followed after them. They saw in them the perfected clones - something they could help them become themselves. I will expand this if I notice more mistakes. This isn't intended as an attack on your video - the video is one of the greatest works on structuring of Warframe's story and lore. I'm just here to help correct it.
If I remember correctly for the worm queen commentary, yes they were originally twins but through transference they have taken over clone bodies over the years which degrade very quickly giving them the reason for desperately wanting the Tenno body which wont die so quickly compared to the Grineer cloned bodies they currently possess
Adding the mistakes I caught: The "flaw" was not just to make Sentients Barren. The Void was meant to kill them slowly but surely by the time they finished Terraforming Tau. However, they somehow developed resistances to the point that it only made them Barren. The Sentients never "returned" it was just one war. The Warframes came long before the Tenno's abilities were discovered. Margulis was not Orokin, and she died before the Tenno ever fought using Warframes. She is also not Lotus, the Lotus is a sentient who was once named Natah.
I would love to hear your thoughts on The New War and the way it continued the story. You did however mention at the end that you wish to wait until "Warframe ends" as you put it, so that you can give a definitive analysis. So will you make a follow up soon, or will you wait for more development?
I will definitely make a video on The New War, but it will probably take some time. It's complex, and current life is keeping me from finishing the quest proper
So I'm about 3/4 of the way through this video. So far so good. It's definitely an awesome refresher to the story that I was looking for before playing the new update. Completed update and came back to this to hopefully help me understand what was going on lol. Keep up the great work man!
The love for warframe is strong within this one. Warframe is my only comeing back game after breaks. You did a fine job! i enjoyed seing the story again, Thanks!
Dude, I can´t really say how much I enjoyed this full video and I imagine the hard work you wen´t through to make it happen! Kudos for this great thing and for opening bout your spectrum!
As someone who doesn’t play warframe as destiny takes my grinding time, I’m a simple man, I see long essay on video games, I watch. We need more CCs who do long form videos. Have a sub and keep the good work up.
I know The Second Dream is the pivotal moment in Warframe. But i LOVED the Chains of Harrow quest. And the moment in The Sacrifice when you "meet" umbra under the tree for the first time, that moment feels so raw and emotional to me like nothing else in Warframe. (So far, still have to play The New War, but i would be pleasantly surprised if that hits me again that hard). Thanks for this video and thanks for sharing!
Oh yeah, Chains of Harrow and The Sacrifice are definitely my two high points. I think The New War will get you. Not in the same way, but it's gonna blow your mind at least once.
@@SocraTetris Just finished. Didn't go in the direction i anticipated. Really got me good, and yes it had its prime moments. Great visuals, great music. Worth the wait for sure. I feel satisfied after this.
@@SocraTetris Its mostly because i started the game in 2016 i believe and when i was younger I typically played games for the game play and mechanics, So i mostly played through the planets and mostly on earth cause i wasn't very good, Played it on and off throughout the years and not until last night did I decide i want to know the story and i figured what better then a nine hour long lore video in the background. Great video definitely earned a returning viewer in me.
You’re incredible, I mean it. The way you talk pulls me into the actual lore. Although I wasn’t actually expecting it to be 8 hours and 41 minutes long.
I have been playing this game off and on for years and never in all this time did I think I’d hear someone say that not only is the story so good as to be some of the best in western literature, but that it’s also a critique of Plato’s Republic. Only about an hour in, but I absolutely plan to hear the whole thing. This is amazing work so far.
A most interesting watch, especially as a player who did the bulk of the quest things before DE improved the new player experience/changed how some of those quests play out. What I found most interesting were the parallels to known philosophies you cited, which are a welcome angle of the critique of the lore....and the cutsceen/ pop-up stuff i never saw(not sure how I completed everything an missed those things). On the flip side the most jaring things were the tenno miss-refrences in the begining and the information about parvos, as when i stoped playing the glassmaker and to some extent nightwave was only just then a thing(pre-sisters of parvos), that showed up after all the umbra business and much more, to older players
Wow you are like,one of the few warframe lore-tubers to actually draw comparions to capitaliam and alot of the critiques warframe has about our society its really nice to see.
wow I've never been so invested in watching TUTORIAL gameplay footage of a game ive been playing for years! when it got to around 53:00 i expected to skip the gameplay and only watch the lore talk sections, but this was all great!!!
I appreciate you putting this together, but I do think some of the uncut gameplay is hard to sit through without any commentary, I saw one person suggest cuts, but maybe if you still wanted to preserve that played through nature, maybe consider speeding up the missions in post to 2x or more. I thought your philosophy connections were quite enlightening and they really made me think!
I'm almost 6 hours into your video and I've been enjoying it greatly. Love your commentary and how you point out the philosophical critiques within the themes of the game. One suggestion I would make for longer videos like this though is perhaps adding timestamps in the description for those moments where you actually speak/make commentary. It can be a little frustrating, say, wanting to hear your thoughts on Warframe and Confucianism but having to sit through a bunch of gameplay I've already seen to get to it. And since the video is so long, it's very difficult to scan through what's there. Like I said, great commentary! Just wish it was easier to find amidst all the gameplay footage 😅
thank you for commenting! i did rerelease the video with the gameplay segments cut, so the essay segments should be easier to follow if you ever want to return to this. :)
Thank you, link! You can help the channel out by watching the rest of the playlist of warframe videos i've made. here: ua-cam.com/play/PLVRI7Hc-pawnl8YxoUd7aiUJBS1Zy1qhn.html&si=VH_-OPYytLTbNP1t
Before I say anything else, holy crap. The amount of dedication it must have taken to put all this together and in a digestible way had to be monumental. Well bloody done and have a like for the effort if nothing else. But...you had a *lot* of blank space there that nearly lost me. I sat down to listen to this while editing a video of my own [it's FF related, don't mind, I'm not fishing for views here] and ended up pausing it because battle sounds and generic lines that we've all heard ten billion times got annoying. Fair enough, so I finished up and just watched the video. Ended up slapping the -> button for 80% of the time I was actually watching. I also tried just having it on while I was playing Warframe on my own doing some Thermia fractures. At some point I forgot it was on and got real confused when Lotus started talking about specific quest stuffs while I'm just derping around Orb Vallis. I say this out of a genuine respect, as a 'fellow creator' however loose that term may be; you have a lot of padding in your video, my friend. The good bits are golden, but it's a whole bag of rice to go with each bite of meat.
I really like this video. It has been so long that, despite having played the story of Warframe, I have forgotten a lot of the finer details. But I do have some points of critique: 1. Gameplay sections could have been cut down a lot. The actual gameplay is not that important to the narrative and could have been shortened by descriptions of the events, aided by gameplay footage. 2. There are weird cuts in some of the dialogue, don't know what that's about. 3. There are a few rough spots with the way you explained some of the lore, some factual and some I have a different interpretation off (wich isn't technically a point of critique but I felt the need to mention). All in all I enjoyed the story summery and your comparison to real life philosophical concepts. The latter brings an interesting perspective on the narrative (my personal favorite being the Orokin and Plato's Republic). I will check out some of your other content and hope you'll make more content in this format (maybe not 9 hours, 'caus that seems like way too much work, even though I do enjoy some long form content).
He also gets some parts wrong like when Margulis died, claiming that the Queens' chambers was the Orokin Seven's chambers, and incorrectly saying that the Man in the Wall talks in the Lotus' voice, when in actuality, it's the Operator's voice, just to name a few. He also skips a quest or two.
You gotta make a video covering the new war!!! There are a ton of people that are confused about what actually happened and that video would DEFINITELY get a lot of traction. Based on the quality of this video I’m certain you can do it justice!!!!
"Do you feel like a hero yet?" I saw that reference! You can't hide it from me! We may have crossed The Line a long time ago... but at least we're having fun!
@@SocraTetris Ha, like I'm going to miss a reference to one of the greatest fps games ever made. Good on ya for making such a reference! There are a few very notable things you got wrong: Worm is the other Queen's actual sister, not her clone. Everything between the Queen driving her swirling Kuva into our head and us breaking free of it was a dream. Rell is _not_ The Man In The Wall, he's just an autistic Tenno that decided to hide in his frame for however many thousands of years rather than sleeping like the rest so that he could fight the actual Man In The Wall; though, it is very likely he was possessed by The Man.
Mentioning these philosophical concepts is something I've been wanting to do for awhile. Glad to see it done with this and will be watching this video because I LOVE warframe lore
Just want to point out a repeated error in this. Lotus is not Margulis, she's Natah. She's a sentient that modeled herself after Margulis. Margulis was executed.
I haven't seen anyone mention this so far, so I'm not sure if it's just me. There's several points in the video where the footage and audio skips ahead (such as 2:57:09) I was wondering if anyone else noticed this I just found it a bit jarring because characters keep cutting themselves off mid dialogue
Hi Magnus! So I made a note of this in the description, but this is primarily due to recording all of the video on a playstation 4's internal dvr. I imagine that loading and network connectivity created peaks in the consoles ram resulting in gaps in the recordings. There was really no way for me to avoid this short of buying a much more powerful PC and a capture card (which is not in my modest budget). Thank you for understanding though!
@@SocraTetris Ah that certainly makes sense. I looked in the description but must have missed that. I get how fickle the built in DVR can be as I play on Xbox myself. Also I just want to say that I really respect your level of engagement with all the comments on the video and that you're taking the time to respond to much of the criticism and other comments. Awesome work on the video
What do you think about all that recently added heart void story? It feels like plot hole (careless granma trying to fix her family risking all void magic on that side of the wall) over retcon (it's not actually our power to control void or magic been delegated to us via void god or whatever). And it's hard to believe Ballas did not know about it. DE should've at least tried to explain all that storypart more coherent.
I have mainly decided to withhold forming an opinion about the more recent bits of story until I see The New War, and have some time to reflect. I hope that neither of those, plot hole or retcon, are the case! lol
Considering how Deimos is pretty much a giant Infested skull-shaped moon, it’s likely that even if Ballas knew about it he took one look at the Infestation and thought “Nope, fuck that place”. Interestingly IIRC there aren’t any “Narmer” nodes on Deimos or Eris, primarily Infestation controlled planets.
Amazing! I'm half way through and it's such a good recap for players like me who need a refresher but also for people who want to know the story but not play the game such as one of my friends. I appreciate all the time and dedication that went into making this video.
While I might not agree with all of your interpretations of things, this is a fantastic review of the lore, and I love hearing your analysis of the themes, ideas, and inspirations behind this game. Looking eagerly forward to more of your content, good sir! EDIT: So sorry, I didn't even realize you had a note about the main thing I was in disagreement about in the description. And really, the confusion is entirely fair -- we still know so very little about what the Man In The Wall actually IS, and we knew even less during Chains of Harrow. And, again, I love hearing your takes on how everything connects and interacts! Respectful and divergent discourse is probably the best thing for a game with lore as tangled as Warframe's, I figure.
I could start the new war quest right now, but I think I’m gonna watch this (probably not all at once but rather in multiple smaller sessions). I want to make sure I’m completely caught up before I start the new war and after the first few minutes of this video im pretty sure this is my best option by far. This is here to keep my place. Current place: 5:59:00
Edit 00: I have received the correction about Tau. Shut up, then tell me about Taoism.
Edit 0: There is a 5 hour abridged version on the video page where gameplay segments have been cut.
Edit 1: I have posted a link in the description to my blog, where you can read the full text of the video.
Edit 2: This video is likely THE video that gives my channel monetization status. I am infinitely grateful to everyone who has enjoyed it, and helped me reach this point! (I promise not to load this video with a billion ads)
Edit 3: I have received some very helpful feedback about the editing, and the need for the script to cover more of the gameplay. I will implement this in future videos of this format!
Edit 4: I have made a note in the description about the Entrati lore as it relates to the Chains of Harrow quest section. "WarFrame & Autism"
Some of you may be wondering at the odd format of this video essay. I realized that for people not in the warframe community, there is little awareness of the story. So to deliver the philosophical influences on the story, I also had to tell it. In Full. It's definitely different, but I would love your feedback on this format, and how i may improve it for other such video game epics in the future.
At no point am I really seeing you engage with the actual extant Warframe Iceberg, so your title is a little wanting, and I think that telling a story in full may not necessarily call for long stretches of wave defense missions with no commentary presented unedited. Like I get that you were capturing the journey, I guess, but I feel like the bulk of the runtime of this video essay is just... nothing. Your entire hour long piece on Leviathan was maybe two paragraphs, and one of those was your introductory framing of the base concept and the other was actually just several independent sentences or fragments that hinted at a clear purpose but went with so much nothing between them that they fell flat. What sucks is that your ideas seem generally on point, but this staggered delivery really does you zero favors. I would have liked to hear you actually develop the concepts you present, but you... don't. You could maybe use an editor, not for the video elements, but for your script. I feel like most pre-readers would have told you that nine hours of mostly dead air is a bit of a bad call. Don't get me wrong, I found enjoyment here, but I found it amidst literally hundreds of "skip ahead" inputs.
@@ClockworkMinion I agree with what you said. Several times, i found myself thinking, "why am i watching extended gameplay". needs to edit the missions down to what's necessary.
don't you suppose to pin this
Wet Mote Thank you for letting me know! I thought I had, but I supposed it didn't update. Good Catch!
No shit, its like the best clickbait ever, Spanish.
Why spanish
Playing Warframe: 'ugh i don't even know what to do'
Watching an almost 9 hour video on Warframe lore: 'yeah, I got time'
Test literally today
Me: yeah i got time
Tbf i just completed the new war and am asking myself that ._.'
@@atomicrc5189 farm caliban
@@MissBeloved__ have it
@@atomicrc5189 what I like to do is get a noice frame and bring it to the first defense mission on earth to show off to and teach lvl 0 players
This is doctoral-level work. Wow. As a senior literature major in uni and a Tenno of 8 years, I am in awe.
Thank You! I'm not sure I can accept that high of praise, but I'm still happy for it!
This really, REALLY is. It's insane the amount of dedication you have put in to this.
@@SocraTetris Accept it. I was thinking the exact same thing after being only 1 hour in. I have a Sociology and Economics bachelor and a phd in Philosophy and let me tell you, even though the format is a bit unorthodox for the Academia in my country, I really don't think they would scoff at your work.
You invested just as much if not more time, interest, research and passion than any Philosophy phd Candidate (and that's saying something because they have to put in a lot of hours too)
I get your video is not for everybody. I myself write long (3000 -5000 word) articles on my subjects of passion but this... this is on a whole different level.
For those who want deep dives (and there is an audience for this, small and select though it is), this is the kind of work they are looking for.
In a world of quick fixes and instant gratification, this work brings some hope and shows us that depth and substance has not fully been forgotten. It may have fallen out of fashion on a collective level, but there are still devotees of divibg deep and loremasters such as yourself.
For those who are open to content like this, who do not want 10 or 30 minutes quick fixes, but an actual full on analysis, this is Gold!
It's like going through a really consistent Compendium (I dare not call this video simply a book for it is much more), but it also has gameplay and a compelling narative complete with the personal reflections of the author.
Other than not following the classical written format of a doctoral thesis, in every other aspect this is functionally exactly that: an in-depth well documented, carefully and painstakingly crafted work of both scientific reflection and art.
I don't know by what objective criteria you would classify your work as anything less than a full blown phd Thesis but in my humble opinion, no essential difference can be made beteen the two.
You're free to have your own opinion of course, but I really resonate with Sitchrea's reply.
I just found your video, so I couldn't comment earlier. But if I could, I too would have said your video feels like whitnessing a really well done philosophy Phd!
Congratulations!
damn dude, you only got 65 minutes of lore for every year you played
@@alphaplayzz1381 Tetris didn't cover everything in this video. Not even close.
Can’t ever pick a movie on Netflix but boy I can sure click a 9 hour warframe video without a breath of hesitation
And that's pretty awesome for you to do!
@@SocraTetris I ended up enjoying it, but I have about 5 hours left. Say, with such a name as that you wouldn’t ever consider doing tetris content would you? 🙂
I... have something in the works. ... but don't tell Tetris Inc.
@@SocraTetris 🤐🤐🤐
To be fair, an hour and a half of my time is precious. What if I commit to a movie I don’t like? *scrolls for 3 hours trying to find a movie then just goes to bed*
Your description of the sergeant cracked me up " no one knows what's he does but he can turn invisible a little bit that's kinda cool"
Finally someone likes my humor! :'''D
From what I gathered from the wiki, he's in charge of the Corpus solar rails and uses them to find Warframe cryopods (and presumably other artifacts as well) so he can sell them.
@@SocraTetris add me to that list too. There are many types of humor. You may have others in your arsenal as well, but in this case it was the kind of humor that doesn't send you bursting with laughter, externalizing the energy.
Rather, it's the kind of humor (which I'm a big fan of) that lights up the eyes and steals a genuine smile of happiness that comes from recognizing and resonating with what the one telling the joke is saying.
Your humor is funny because it takes an almost trivial thing (the sargeant doesn't do much but he can turn invisible), and turns it into something significant for us, because it's significant and funny to you, and we resonate.
I liked the perspective, it made me chuckle with glee!
@@PirvuCatalin you certainly both enjoy putting more words than it's needed
@@samiamtheman7379 One thing worth mentioning is he used to be named Nef Anyo, and after his namechange due to Anyo showing up in the plot proper, he's kinda just been a placeholder, doomed to a similar fate like Phorid as an early-dev designed boss in an era which has far evolved past that.
There's fairly common rough spots, especially around the series of events leading up to the old war and tenno rebellion, but I do like the inclusion of a lot of the in-game stories that other lore summaries lack, giving it more first-person accounts, as well as discussing the links to historical philosophies or stories and their differences. Nice.
Oh absolutely. There were so many hard decisions about what wasn't included just so that this thing didn't become 24 hours long! For example, my favorite part of the Confucianism theme is how the Technocyte Infested are like family to the Warframes, the conversations with have with them, and the culmination of the themes in the Deimos story quests. (Future Video I'm thinking about how to execute on).
Could have gone harder into the economic/revolutionary themes with Fortuna. The Environmentalist themes with Cetus, New Loka, and The Red Veil. Ugh! Anyway, there is far more potential, and my video is absolutely not definitive. Everyone else's lore summaries are extremely helpful!
@@SocraTetris We could never tell history from day to day events. Its the same for something as rich and complex as warframe. We can just choose what is best to say about its history for it to make sense and tell most or the story.
Wait what’s rough about it I don’t understand?
@@spam_1224 A bit late, but it's not terribly accurate in places and makes assumptions that the lore we have contradicts. Not enough to dismiss the whole thing, and I don't see anyone else doing 9 hour lore videos.
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Remark: The Tau System, the Sentients were sent to, refers to a solar system, most likely Tau Ceti, not a galaxy. They were also not sentient, when they were sent to Tau, but gained sentience through adaption during their terraforming efforts.
And ended up sterile (I think)
@@frank8917 The Orokin designed the Tau-bound sentient predecessors in a way, that they could not adopt to the void. (That's the reason, why void-attacks reset the damage-adaption of a sentient.) The void would "poison" a sentient, one effect being, that they would not be able to reproduce after a voyage through the void. This was most likely to keep them from spreading uncontrollably.
@@AmadrathSo they are fatally weak to the Void, however natah's mother body blocked for the sentients using cephalon energy, she's now burnt out in the sun, braindead. However the rest of the sentients are now sterile instead of dead, That is why natah adopted the tenno, she wanted to be a mother
@@AmadrathSO THAT IS WHAT THE LOTUS MEANS BY "CHANGE YOUR ATTACK TYPE" when fighting sentients???? I SWEAR TO GOD, I have been bashing my head, swapping guns, abilities and what not!!!!!!!!! This game does not explain ANYTHING, dude.
@@bozhidardimitrov3573 she also means to use different damage types.
Warframe would be a sick movie.
Completely agree. Though they'd have to hold back on being as vague and mysterious as they prefer
Movie??? Tbh I don't think you could fit that much lore in just one or more movies... Probably a series would be more fitting I think
no, a format that is made to be easily consumible by how short it is and structure made to fit that time limit would not be able to fully express the whole story even though it would still be cool because warframe. A full blown long, well constructed comic, series or books would be able to do that tho.
Warframe and path of exile would be a perfect series of movies or animation/live action series
In the same style as the opening scene.
I would love for a Warframe book or audio book once the "full" story has been told.
Absolutely. I would also really like to see linear, adventure games in this world. Each Warframe has its own story of how it came to be. Prime fodder for standalone games!
@@SocraTetris Yeah, totally. I for example could really imagine a game about the orokin days in the style of the Bioshock games. There are so many possabilities
Nah an anime
A podcast could be interesting
@@Egostar111 yes. Madhouse studio should make it an anime
*Zooms through the facility, blasting and slashing everyone in the path, explosions and death screams fill the air.*
"Keep going, no one knows you're there Tenno."
The several pieces of the guard can't press the alarm
* no one living
@@dustinscott9888 was in a mission with a guy using a kuva tonkor literally nuking the world and typed in chat “The pinnacle of stealth…they can’t be alerted if they’re all dead.”
I feel compelled to point out that the word "tenno" refers to the children from the zariman, the infested dax are simply called warframes.
It's a bit like calling a Katana a Samurai.
Let me elaborate: Disregarding the fact that Samurai also had bows and other weapons they're still mostly associated with the Katana in modern times, yet it's simply a (very iconic) weapon while a Samurai stays a Samurai even if they are unarmed. In Warframe context an Operator is still a Tenno even if they don't have a Warframe equipped, it's just the thing they are usually associated with. The lack of a Warframe (like in War Within and possibly Duviri) doesn't strip them of their Tenno identity.
Thanks, I knew I wasn't the only one who was bothered by that
@@RallenCaptura In a video about _comprehending_ Warframe Lore, the separation is a must. Ignoring this is like saying the Samurai is a Katana used by soldiers in Japanese medieval times during a documentary meant for giving concrete information.
@@RallenCaptura if we really wanna make comparisons it’s like literally calling samurai armor a samurai, that’s really all the war frames are
Hello everyone. Sorry i'm late to responding to this thread. What is stated earlier in the video is not representative of what is stated later in the video. This is due to the reveal of the relationship between Tenno and Warframe is a spoiler for a specific quest in the game. This can be hard for us to remember, as it has been years since that reveal, but new players should be able to enjoy the reveal when possible.
Bro this is literally underrated! I am also a lore addict in Warframe, yet I still learned a lot from this! Great job man, this deserves a million views!
Much appreciated! Maybe the video is a grower, but I am very happy with the response so far. It was definitely a labor of love
Please don't take this video too seriously. Most of it is wrong.
@@ayushdeshmukh284 I'm gonna take it seriously
This is so beautifully narrated. My new favourite audiobook.
After 500 hours in the game I decided to actually care about what's going on and I feel grateful to have found this.
Thank you, Phobs! I hope you enjoy my others as well. i have a whole playlist on my channel :)
I was literally about to redo all the quests from the very beginning to recall the story before NW, and then this gem appeared. You've created something that no one knew they needed until now.
I'm glad this helped you!
I was curious for a couple months now how long the video of all quest dialogue would be. I wish there was a feature in Codex to review the dialogue without replaying it
@@SocraTetris Especially since for some of us (me included...) Some quests can't be replayed (erra, chimera)
same
You should do the quests. This video is mostly wrong so not a good idea, especially if you'd like to understand NW.
The whole Warframe story in only 9 hours!? Keeping it brief i see, appreciate it.
I did my best
1:45:00 One thing I don't know if you caught, the "Arcane Machine" is actually a Sentient skull, the object on the pedestal. And that Sentient is none other than Natah.
How do we know this? Well, what was Natah supposed to do after the Old War? Kill the Tenno and wake up the Sentients. What does the Arcane Machine (Sentient fragment) do at the end of Stolen Dreams? It sends out a system-wide message that the Tenno are dead, the "Womb in the Sky" is silent and calm, and that it's safe for the Sentient to reawaken.
I am so surprised nobody ever realizes that without the events of Stolen Dreams, the New War and really all of Warframe's modern story would never have happened. That's why the quest is called "Stolen Dreams" - we steal the future away from millions, if not billions of innocent people because the ramifications of collecting the fragmented bits of Natah's code and sending out the all-clear message leads directly to the return of the Sentients.
Stolen Dreams is an incredibly important quest, despite its very dated writing.
tysm for this translation, I thought it was about chroma personally or something
This was absolutely something I missed. I just figured that Natah, as a Sentient Mimic, just simply transformed into the shape of Margulis. The message definitely makes sense as the final message of Natah's final sequence. But I wonder why it wasn't in The Lotus's voice, if that is the case? Is there more evidence for this?
I am sorry, but I'm not buying this.
The message is clearly in Hunhow's voice. It is also paired with the second message 'Here we shall search and find. The eyes of day drinking the night'. So it's not the last thing it transmits, and what would the Sentient search for if it was signalling the completion of the sequence?
'The Womb in the Sky' is what the Sentient are calling Lua (don't know if the video mentions it, didn't get to the Second Dream part). They call it that because Lua gave birth to the Tenno-controlled warframes (and is in the Earth's sky, duh). It is empty because Hunhow can't see it, only the fragments of Lua's crust orbiting Earth. Hunhow suspects it was hidden somehow, but he couldn't find it. Later in the opening of the Second Dream he also mentions the Womb in the Sky forbidden to his kind where the Stalker would bring him, as he later realised Lua must be in the Void.
The messages thus refer to Hunhow or rather his drones Oculysts searching for Lua. The fragment on top of the machine must also be of his origin.
I still don't know what the part about eyes of day is supposed to mean, some vague metaphors which are common in early Warframe lore.
@@TennoSkoom This is more where my thoughts aligned. I had assumed that because Hunhow used the same language, that the message must also have been Hunhow. (Hunhow's voice is quite a bit deeper when not in the message though). I don't think expressly explain very well that the Tenno Reservoir on Lua and the metaphorical "womb of the sky" are the same, because I think the quests do the associations well enough once we get there. (Though when watching with my fiancee, she still had a lot of, "Wait, what just happened?" moments! lol)
Uh, so I was thinking about those 'eyes of day drinking the night' a bit (because what else I would do).
And again, I don't know yet if the video mentions it, but it becomes more clear if you listen to Natah dialogue at Ropalolyst.
The Sentient seem to refer to themselves and their essence metaphorically as 'light'. Probably it has a literal meaning too, because they have glowing cores at their hearts. When she talks about their evolution on the way to Tau, she refers to their light being changed. The day as opposed to the night might mean the same, or it may mean the Sentient presence in general.
So the 'eyes of day' may literally mean Hunhow's eyes or Sentient's eyes. And the night is still up to interpretation.
The real question is: am I looking too deep into DE's lazy writing or not?
For the length of this video, it is incredibly impressive how much editing and care was put into it - However, I definitely do wish more of the fat was trimmed. The use of in-game elements and quests to show these events is excellent, but often finds itself dragging along incredibly slow. Either cutting out pieces that are purely standard gameplay, or commentating over their slow sections with other relevant lore/discussion while they play out, could turn this video from a top tier to a top ten. There's a ton of potential here, and I think in trying to force yourself to trim it down and being made to weigh what's important enough to keep, can make your future work nearly unmatched in presentation.
Thank you for the great feedback!
True I tend to listen to these types of videos while I work so the game play elements while cool got a bit tedious as I kept having to pause the video and fast foreward to get to the important story elements.
I second that. Reduce the mission recordings to relevant key points instead of showing the whole run
@@eduardvonheizenstein3969 yeah a whole run is crazy, most of his viewers are listening to the story not watching the screen
I’m at 6:39:00 while writing this, so may have to modify or delete afterwards
Something doesn’t feel quite… right : the man in the wall cannot be Rell nor Rell’s creation… The logs situated in Entrati’s hub denies that. The man in the wall, as said in the quest line is, and always has been there :
- war within, tenno’s father quote : “something is watching us kiddo”
- Palatino : “it’s an entity, as old as stars themselves”
- Entrati’s logs : the first ever man to leap into void saw it, an entity, taking his form and his voice. Which finger was severed when he closed the door fleeing this thing.
This entity in the void, always watching those who enter its realm, that has given the tennos their power. Who appears to us once we hold the burden to protect reality from it. Appearing in the orbiter, its finger missing, finger that swelled to absurd proportions, confined now as the reactor of our railjack. It’s far older than the tennos or anything else.
Not to mention that the Void is *always* described as a infinite, starless black nothingness by every log and every character in the game going back even to quotes from 2012, yet when we as Tenno look at the Void, it's a gorgeous white and blue ocean of color and light. This is classic Warframe diagetic storytelling; the Tenno are avatars of the Void God, so it makes total sense that we perceive the Void itself differently than everyone else.
Before marathoning this video, OML this is dedication! Whole 9 hours dedicated to explain everything?! I hope you add timestamp chapters to easily jump into specific topics...
lol, Thank you! and I would like to, but for whatever reason UA-cam doesn't let me do that on the back end yet. I keep checking, but *shrug*. If I can figure it out, I will put them up when I'm able
Okay, I have it working now. I had to fiddle with one setting which was getting in the way. Thanks for the push!
@@SocraTetris You're welcome, being able to jump on parts would help with accessibility with regards to this monument of a video :)
I'm around the Natah portion, and so far the lengthy gameplay is novel for an explainer, though refreshing. There some parts where I think the gameplay needed some additional voiceovers (either for explanation or just flavor voices) to maintain the pace. One part so far would be where the "boss gauntlet" happened with Lephantis, Kril, Sergeant, Kril+Vor, but it picks up again upon arriving at Regor.
I agree with that. I actually wrote the very lengthy script before I decided on the even lengthier format. (None of the video essayists I spoke to played Warframe or knew anything about it!) The VO is somewhere between 3-4 hours. The next time I use this format, I think I need to write it from a more aggressively first-person perspective. That should fill out those longer gaps, like you said.
- The parents on the Zariman didn't just die. They went insane and the kids had to kill them. A big detail you left out.
- The kids weren't immediately chosen to control the Warframes. The Orokin tried to make the frames autonomous and failed, then discovered the sleeping kids could control them. Also in this section you refer to only the Warframes as Tenno but really the kids are what we call Tenno.
- "Marghulis, the Lotus" Marghulis is not the Lotus, Natah is. Marghulis is dead.
- You referred to Simaris as an AI. Cephalons are not AI, as AI was blasphemy to the Orokin. Cephalon are essentially human minds made digital. In the same vein, you refer to Ordis as the "ship's computer" when Cephalon is more apt, had you explained what a Cephalon was earlier.
That said, I'm only halfway through and I'll finish it later but despite my gripes this is a really comprehensive and well made lore video. I'm glad someone put it all together in one place.
All good things in time
@@SocraTetris Well I did finish it and I maintain that this is a top notch production that was worth the time investment. It was good to have a refresher on the story before The New War as well as hear some of your more interesting interpretations of certain story beats. Well done, I look forward to watching more of your content.
@@maskettaman1488 No it does matter, especially since this is going in depth into the lore of the game.
@@maskettaman1488 clearly it does matter tho. And over a hundred people agreed it mattered. Some of the details were minor or missing an interesting or crucial fact. Like the identity of the lotus doesn’t quack or waddle like your duck, one flys one doesn’t. It’s an important price of lore yet one that can get confused.
@@maskettaman1488 which part you saying isn’t important to the lore? Because several were listed and you said it wasn’t important. And if you’re talking about the identity of the lotus isn’t important than your kinda just dumb. Her identity was been one of the biggest Therese through out the story thus far.
I like how this game is one of those games where the lore is not the most important thing but you have videos of 9 hours explaining the lore
I also like that about this game!
Yeah, at least they put some effort into the setting without making it mandatory
Definatley a few minor inaccuracies here in there, but the dedication to making this video is impressive to say the least. Super interesting to hear your perspective on everything. Subscribed.
Only Minor inaccuracies is what strive for! lol. At the end of the day, I can still tell people, "Well, if you want a better idea of it, you should really play the game yourself."
Alad V story has to be the most confusing. It's seemingly non linear but somehow it makes more sense if it was and kind of hard to keep track of. It's like he has a new job title everytime you turn your back. One day he is a pilot, then a billionaire, then a priest then homeless then a pirate.
Lol, yeah. Trying to coalesce the timeline of the games events rather than just the background lore is confusing. This is why I opted for using the starchart itself as a timeline, since it offers main quests in a vaguely linear pattern.
I LOVE the autism section of the video brother. I have C-PTSD (16 different diagnosis), so I can truly empathize my friend. Thank you so much for sharing that very personal side of yourself. You just earned a 100% dedicated fan/subscriber #sharinganhiro🥷🏾🙏🏾
So having sat through the Plato section so far I wasn't actually very familiar with Plato's Republic, so I wouldn't have made that connection but you've made a bunch of really interesting connections I wouldn't have thought of. Honestly I do appreciate the analysis here because so many of the people who are doing "lore" videos can run into the issue of ignoring themes in favor of just straightforwardly recounting events as they happened (That's not to throw shade, that's a common trap that a lot of people fall into when discussing media broadly). Outside of some rough spots in terms of chronology in here this video is pretty good.
I agree. That's the main reason I wanted to make this. I have also been trying to be vocal about supporting the lore community around Warframe, and not to take this video as definitive. (And the other motive was that I wanted my fiancee specifically to know the story, because there's no way she'll have time to get into the game. I won't be typing this anywhere else, lol).
About 2h into the video, and one major problem I have is how much of the video is just straight up gameplay. It grinds the flow of the video to a screeching halt for minutes at a time, and I don't think it provides enough substance on its own to be included over a cut together montage of sorts running through the quests or a compilation of the most important voicelines.
i agree
I really like this video format. It's one third lore dump, one third walkthrough, and one third philosophical discussion. I would enjoy taking a class taught by you.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! It is not often that people appreciate this weird format. haha
Thanks! I've only been playing for 7 years and condensing the story down into a convenient 9 hour video really helps me get my bearings!
You're very welcome!
This is excellent. I'm gonna keep coming back to this periodically during and after the new war. I knew Warframe's lore was unique but they way you've put it together makes it feel like a hardcore scifi epic.
This is such a nice comment, Oluseun! That's exactly what I wanted to communicate. Because, for me, it absolutely is a hardcore, scifi epic. So I want people who aren't invested in the grind to be able to experience the story, and what it means, too.
@@SocraTetris No, thank you. This evidently required more than a little elbow grease and I'm really enjoying the philosophical asides that you're providing. This stuff is great gamer bate as every reference you drop is causing me to search for a vid on the subject, so I've always got something to listen to while I grind medallions and steel essence in anticipation for Harrow Prime. Anyways, good work, keep doing you.
That's the best compliment I can get! Cuz secretly I'm also just trying to teach people about philosophy. I'm very sneaky like that, lol.
Ive been waiting for a video like this for so lonf honestly.
This game is both fortunately deep enough to warrent such a time sink but sadly so much of a time dedication that im not shocked more videos like this dont exist.
Major thanks
As far as I could find on the wiki explaining The Sergeant's purpose, it says that he's in charge of the Corpus solar rail systems, using them to obtain Warframe cryopods for resale to rogue scientists and splinter groups.
HOW DOES THIS HAVE ONLY 4K VIEWS!!!
This has to be one of the best videos I have ever seen on UA-cam.
I really hope the algorithm will bless this channel very soon.
It seems to be picking up! Right now the video is still on the upward swing, and I hope it can stay that way. I haven't had a video perform this well since 2017! XD. But it's on track to be my most popular video
Only 45 minutes in but, this feels like it would take more effort to make than a doctoral dissertation. Then re-editing like a defense. This is monumental. Truly an insane effort. I appreciate it greatly so far.
Thank you, Bepositive77. always great to hear a vote of confidence. :)
Man’s just uploaded his whole-ass dissertation.
Honestly I'm glad you've done this. I've looking for a full story explanation on UA-cam for weeks and you saved me. Thank you tenno
Glad I could help!
Love the vid, just 1 critique: the gameplay sections could have been significantly cut down. The voicelines are important but 2 minutes of you running to extraction didn't really sound too nice in the background whilst im playing the same game.
Hope this skyrockets your channel,, tenno
Allowing that DE sometimes throws in ideas that they forget about or just don't follow up on, I'm interested in 2:40:39 where the Lotus says that she can't see the Sentient but suspects that there's something there. DSiege recently (briefly) pondered the duality of Natah and the Lotus (hints in later quests and the New War), wondering if each may be working against the other, sometimes hiding knowledge from one another. Teshin clearly thinks she's hiding something (intentionally or not).
That would be interesting, but I think they aren't going to go the direction that there are two personalities in conflict. More like she has two values in conflict (care for her family and care for the Tenno). Also, some memory shenanigans are happening, but don't know exactly what.
note: the warframe cryopods in defense missions are volunteer citizens electing to become warframes. You build three parts to a warframe, the rest comes with a volunteer's body. also thanks for the flashbacks to my early days in warframe, that mag color scheme had me reeling
My aesthetic is great! Lol. Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for that really Dark fact! I didn't know that at all, haha
I very much appreciated hearing your thoughts, especially on the deeper, philosophical aspects of the world. For example, even something as simple as the concept of corpus as family never really crossed my mind. I'm glad to have listened to all you had to say.
But as valuable as all this was, from the parts where only gameplay is shown, the story is told in-game, and little to no commentary is there to accompany it, I must say I gained nothing. Don't get me wrong, a cutaway to a relevant part of dialogue would have been great, but I did not need to see gameplay of entire missions.
I think I would have preferred a video with way less direct gameplay, and that would also cut down the enormous 9h running time of it and make it more approachable for a broader, perhaps less dedicated audience
All that being said, don't let any of that make you averse to long-form content or dissuade you from making thoughtful videos, such as this one. Godspeed on your journey, I'm excited to hear what else you have to share!
I agree completely, long sections of gameplay without commentary is not what I signed up for and almost made me stop watching on several occasions. I would have vastly preferred if the silent bits without any dialogue were cut out and only the relevant parts were kept, or at the very least if a running commentary had been 9n place over those parts.
Yeah I’m thinking of skipping but it also feels like I’m gonna miss some important stuff but it’s too much fluff, especially in contrast to the high quality analysis in the rest of the video
Pshhhhh He just wants to show off his Ember colors 😂
I can only echo this statement, the parts where hes actually discussing the deeper ideas are really interesting but I don't enjoy skipping through typical warframe busy work to get to those parts.
This... isn't 100% wrong.
That Ropalolyst loadout was.. different. Anyway, great work. I enjoyed the philosophical exploration within the story, and it was a nice refresher for the next step.
The format is interesting. There are so many story bits of dialogue in the missions as you play, but I do feel that some of the regular mission gameplay could be cut for times sake. Overall, thoroughly enjoyed the video.
It really wasn't an efficient one! I hadn't tried to solo ropalolyst before that recording, and only fixed my loadout afterwards.
Maybe it's already been noted somewhere in the comments but I'd like to point out a discrepancy very early in the video regarding the Tenno. You refer to what the Dax become as the tenno and say the children inhabit the Tenno body's but those body's were just precursor warframes. The term Tenno refers to the children themselves, a play on the Zariman Ten-Zero (10-0 = ten O)
This is THE video for the story of this game, and all in one video!! What a fantastic work, the community need to see this!
I really appreciate that!
I wish they would turn this story into a series of films or a television series. I think it would be awesome. It's great storytelling.
Every time you aimed that bow at a container and missed I felt it. Especially the fact that you did not even try a second time. You admitted defeat. You felt hurt and swallowed it. I felt a deep pain that connects us. We are one. Thank you for this video.
It also helps that each container isnt worth that much. I feel no sunk-cost fallacy
4:27:27 This was a very wholesome moment. Simaris risking losing itself and it's sanctuary to help Ordis and Suda. Turns out he has a heart after all.
Doesnt want to admit it though. Such a Tsundere
@@SocraTetris "O.. of course not, I was acting to protect the weave.. b.. baka!!"
"Only 9 hours"
Honestly? I am astonished by how little this is. Very damn nice job compunding it all!
Tbh he left a lot out but still impressive
@@mo_shiota1637 well it would be 15+ if it covered everything and anything
@@YOURteacher_100 would be awesome if there was a series
@@mo_shiota1637 agreed, sadly when you get into the lore it’s essentially a repeating pattern of blue people being pains
@@YOURteacher_100 well yes however these blue people are essential the reason the entire universe became the way it is nowadays. I would like to know more about them in the future, not only their wars but see more about their society and lifes
This is the most in-depth, complete, and informative masterpiece of research on a piece of art I have ever read/seen. The perspective and lore learned from you has turned an MMO into a living, breathing universe for me. I thank you immensely for renewing my passion for this game.
I am glad my video could do that for you :)
I think this is a great effort after watching the first chapter; I don't have a lot of free time for this long video, but I'll watch each chapter before the new war.
I appreciate that! And feel free to take it in chunks. Chapter links in the description!
This video was dope brother! Started working 12 hour shifts and this helped me stay up. GREAT WORK!!!! 🗣️
Glad i could help you through work!
Love the immersive narration with the character types! Made this really enjoyable to listen to, wished there were more.
There is more! I have 3 more videos in this style for Sisters of Parvos, The New War, and Angels of the Zarimen
Dude i still get teary every time i watch the warframe getting near the waterfall to see their true form. It was truly an amazing experience.
I just love how you bithslap oneshot Maroo and Lotus is like: "We come in peace" XD
Oh yeah, that irony was not lost on me. "Come with me, if you want to live." has a real different context after we kinda try to off her!
Man, I started playing Warframe back when it first released, before there was really any story at all. I took long breaks and would come back to find the whole game had changed several times, slowly completing these disconnected quest lines. I never had any clue that there was any cohesive storyline under it all.
Thanks for creating this. Now I feel a little bit more immersed in the world I spend forever playing in.
I'm so glad I could help you get there! 💜
this is what all people seeking lore where lookin for, not some weird 10 minute *guide/explination* that only scratches the surface of the lore… big thx man
Thank you for watching! I'm glad it is what you were looking for
Very informative, just one tiny bit of constructive criticism: This video didn't need 30+ minutes of gameplay lol, I probably missed some lore because I had to keep skipping 10 minute sections of commentary-less gameplay
While I agree to an extent. I personally enjoyed it as It gave the missions more weight and allowed me to follow the story better. But that might be because I've not played these missions 100+ times.
I also enjoyed watching him evolve over the time he played.
I kept thinking I accidentally skipped to a video of gameplay lol
The extra 2 hours of useless gameplay really make the "explained in 9 hours" in the title a bit of a lie
Now as I'm watching through TWW part, I have to correct what I believe to be some crucial mistakes.
Firstly, the Queens' throne room is not the Seven's room. It isn't mentioned anywhere, and just isn't plausible, as the Queens were banished from the Orokin Empire even before it fell and couldn't have any connection to the Seven. It is possible though that the throne room is a repurposed Yuvan Theater for the Queens to perform Continuity, however this is just a speculation.
Secondly, the Worm Queen isn't a clone. It is stated unambiguously in the Kuria poem. The Queens were of Orokin origin and were identical tweens - something Orokin regarded as a sin, as they were mich too like the slave caste - the Grineer. This was in fact the exact reason the Grineer followed after them. They saw in them the perfected clones - something they could help them become themselves.
I will expand this if I notice more mistakes.
This isn't intended as an attack on your video - the video is one of the greatest works on structuring of Warframe's story and lore. I'm just here to help correct it.
If I remember correctly for the worm queen commentary, yes they were originally twins but through transference they have taken over clone bodies over the years which degrade very quickly giving them the reason for desperately wanting the Tenno body which wont die so quickly compared to the Grineer cloned bodies they currently possess
Adding the mistakes I caught:
The "flaw" was not just to make Sentients Barren. The Void was meant to kill them slowly but surely by the time they finished Terraforming Tau. However, they somehow developed resistances to the point that it only made them Barren.
The Sentients never "returned" it was just one war.
The Warframes came long before the Tenno's abilities were discovered.
Margulis was not Orokin, and she died before the Tenno ever fought using Warframes. She is also not Lotus, the Lotus is a sentient who was once named Natah.
Warframe is 9 years old now and the time just flew by...
I would love to hear your thoughts on The New War and the way it continued the story. You did however mention at the end that you wish to wait until "Warframe ends" as you put it, so that you can give a definitive analysis. So will you make a follow up soon, or will you wait for more development?
I will definitely make a video on The New War, but it will probably take some time. It's complex, and current life is keeping me from finishing the quest proper
So I'm about 3/4 of the way through this video. So far so good. It's definitely an awesome refresher to the story that I was looking for before playing the new update. Completed update and came back to this to hopefully help me understand what was going on lol. Keep up the great work man!
The love for warframe is strong within this one.
Warframe is my only comeing back game after breaks. You did a fine job! i enjoyed seing the story again, Thanks!
1:03:38 this part reminds me of how absolutely amazing the sound design is in this game it’s honestly top tier
You're a phenomenal reader (and writer, given the organized and understandable script) these 8 hours went by very nice.
I'm glad you had a good time!
Dude, I can´t really say how much I enjoyed this full video and I imagine the hard work you wen´t through to make it happen! Kudos for this great thing and for opening bout your spectrum!
Just got into warframe and thsi is a sick vid. Great job! Thanks for the video glhf
As someone who doesn’t play warframe as destiny takes my grinding time, I’m a simple man, I see long essay on video games, I watch. We need more CCs who do long form videos. Have a sub and keep the good work up.
Thank you MrGorgutzkiller! I hope you will enjoy the rest of my warframe story essays as well :)
You forgot the most important part of the lore. The MIGHTY SEER. This is great tho
THE strongest gun in the whole game!?!? You're right. I was foolish
@@SocraTetris I'll forgive you this time
This was great at first, but then it turned into a 7 hour playthrough
I know The Second Dream is the pivotal moment in Warframe. But i LOVED the Chains of Harrow quest. And the moment in The Sacrifice when you "meet" umbra under the tree for the first time, that moment feels so raw and emotional to me like nothing else in Warframe. (So far, still have to play The New War, but i would be pleasantly surprised if that hits me again that hard).
Thanks for this video and thanks for sharing!
Oh yeah, Chains of Harrow and The Sacrifice are definitely my two high points. I think The New War will get you. Not in the same way, but it's gonna blow your mind at least once.
@@SocraTetris Just finished. Didn't go in the direction i anticipated. Really got me good, and yes it had its prime moments. Great visuals, great music. Worth the wait for sure. I feel satisfied after this.
Great to have a comprehensive lore video for this game I've finally started the main quests after like 40 hours of playing through the star chart lol
Wow! You waited quite awhile!
@@SocraTetris Its mostly because i started the game in 2016 i believe and when i was younger I typically played games for the game play and mechanics, So i mostly played through the planets and mostly on earth cause i wasn't very good, Played it on and off throughout the years and not until last night did I decide i want to know the story and i figured what better then a nine hour long lore video in the background. Great video definitely earned a returning viewer in me.
Well there's so much more than just this video! I have a full playlist on my channel. Hope you enjoy the rest of them too!
You’re incredible, I mean it. The way you talk pulls me into the actual lore. Although I wasn’t actually expecting it to be 8 hours and 41 minutes long.
I have been playing this game off and on for years and never in all this time did I think I’d hear someone say that not only is the story so good as to be some of the best in western literature, but that it’s also a critique of Plato’s Republic.
Only about an hour in, but I absolutely plan to hear the whole thing. This is amazing work so far.
I am glad you can appreciate it! Thank You!
The man in the wall is most definately NOT a figment of Rell's imagination...
A most interesting watch, especially as a player who did the bulk of the quest things before DE improved the new player experience/changed how some of those quests play out. What I found most interesting were the parallels to known philosophies you cited, which are a welcome angle of the critique of the lore....and the cutsceen/ pop-up stuff i never saw(not sure how I completed everything an missed those things). On the flip side the most jaring things were the tenno miss-refrences in the begining and the information about parvos, as when i stoped playing the glassmaker and to some extent nightwave was only just then a thing(pre-sisters of parvos), that showed up after all the umbra business and much more, to older players
Wow you are like,one of the few warframe lore-tubers to actually draw comparions to capitaliam and alot of the critiques warframe has about our society its really nice to see.
Glad you found it enjoyable, Voidpriest :)
You wrapped that up really nicely, almost brought a tear to my eye. Good job!
thank yoi, Halos! Hope you enjoy the rest of my warframe videos too. there are a lot of them now!
wow I've never been so invested in watching TUTORIAL gameplay footage of a game ive been playing for years!
when it got to around 53:00 i expected to skip the gameplay and only watch the lore talk sections, but this was all great!!!
I'm glad you enjoyed it! If you ever want to return and skip the gameplay, I have made re-release videos for that as well
I appreciate you putting this together, but I do think some of the uncut gameplay is hard to sit through without any commentary, I saw one person suggest cuts, but maybe if you still wanted to preserve that played through nature, maybe consider speeding up the missions in post to 2x or more. I thought your philosophy connections were quite enlightening and they really made me think!
Agree 100%
I'm almost 6 hours into your video and I've been enjoying it greatly. Love your commentary and how you point out the philosophical critiques within the themes of the game. One suggestion I would make for longer videos like this though is perhaps adding timestamps in the description for those moments where you actually speak/make commentary. It can be a little frustrating, say, wanting to hear your thoughts on Warframe and Confucianism but having to sit through a bunch of gameplay I've already seen to get to it. And since the video is so long, it's very difficult to scan through what's there.
Like I said, great commentary! Just wish it was easier to find amidst all the gameplay footage 😅
thank you for commenting! i did rerelease the video with the gameplay segments cut, so the essay segments should be easier to follow if you ever want to return to this. :)
Amazing work! You deserve much more subscribers!
Thank you, link! You can help the channel out by watching the rest of the playlist of warframe videos i've made. here: ua-cam.com/play/PLVRI7Hc-pawnl8YxoUd7aiUJBS1Zy1qhn.html&si=VH_-OPYytLTbNP1t
This is the kind of content I want bruh. It's HAS to be 1+ hours or I don't care. Great job on this one!!!
Glad you liked it, heavenlypathos :)
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Here before it gets blessed by the algorithm. Phenomenal work!
Before I say anything else, holy crap. The amount of dedication it must have taken to put all this together and in a digestible way had to be monumental. Well bloody done and have a like for the effort if nothing else.
But...you had a *lot* of blank space there that nearly lost me. I sat down to listen to this while editing a video of my own [it's FF related, don't mind, I'm not fishing for views here] and ended up pausing it because battle sounds and generic lines that we've all heard ten billion times got annoying. Fair enough, so I finished up and just watched the video. Ended up slapping the -> button for 80% of the time I was actually watching. I also tried just having it on while I was playing Warframe on my own doing some Thermia fractures. At some point I forgot it was on and got real confused when Lotus started talking about specific quest stuffs while I'm just derping around Orb Vallis.
I say this out of a genuine respect, as a 'fellow creator' however loose that term may be; you have a lot of padding in your video, my friend. The good bits are golden, but it's a whole bag of rice to go with each bite of meat.
I really like this video. It has been so long that, despite having played the story of Warframe, I have forgotten a lot of the finer details.
But I do have some points of critique:
1. Gameplay sections could have been cut down a lot. The actual gameplay is not that important to the narrative and could have been shortened by descriptions of the events, aided by gameplay footage.
2. There are weird cuts in some of the dialogue, don't know what that's about.
3. There are a few rough spots with the way you explained some of the lore, some factual and some I have a different interpretation off (wich isn't technically a point of critique but I felt the need to mention).
All in all I enjoyed the story summery and your comparison to real life philosophical concepts. The latter brings an interesting perspective on the narrative (my personal favorite being the Orokin and Plato's Republic).
I will check out some of your other content and hope you'll make more content in this format (maybe not 9 hours, 'caus that seems like way too much work, even though I do enjoy some long form content).
I've given some explanations to some of your questions in the description :D. Thanks for commenting and sticking around!
He also gets some parts wrong like when Margulis died, claiming that the Queens' chambers was the Orokin Seven's chambers, and incorrectly saying that the Man in the Wall talks in the Lotus' voice, when in actuality, it's the Operator's voice, just to name a few. He also skips a quest or two.
Amazing video. Minor inaccuracies and stuff i would have cut or sped up but i watched all 9 hours of it. A video to be very proud of!
Splendid narration of all the dialogue
And an amazing video summary of the lore.
One of those videos you want to come back once in a while
Thank you, Boopcorn. I hope you enjoy the rest of my warframe videos as well :)
@@SocraTetris I will definitely check them out
You gotta make a video covering the new war!!! There are a ton of people that are confused about what actually happened and that video would DEFINITELY get a lot of traction. Based on the quality of this video I’m certain you can do it justice!!!!
I absolutely will be! Life is getting in the way atm, but I will be playing it this week!
"Do you feel like a hero yet?" I saw that reference! You can't hide it from me! We may have crossed The Line a long time ago... but at least we're having fun!
You are the first person to have called me on that! WELL DONE! *bows*
@@SocraTetris Ha, like I'm going to miss a reference to one of the greatest fps games ever made. Good on ya for making such a reference!
There are a few very notable things you got wrong: Worm is the other Queen's actual sister, not her clone. Everything between the Queen driving her swirling Kuva into our head and us breaking free of it was a dream. Rell is _not_ The Man In The Wall, he's just an autistic Tenno that decided to hide in his frame for however many thousands of years rather than sleeping like the rest so that he could fight the actual Man In The Wall; though, it is very likely he was possessed by The Man.
You deserve a medal from the Void. Well done.
Mentioning these philosophical concepts is something I've been wanting to do for awhile. Glad to see it done with this and will be watching this video because I LOVE warframe lore
I'm glad you found it!
3:08:02 "The sentient is a way-long."
So true Teshin. He does turn out to be quite long, wide too.
Just want to point out a repeated error in this. Lotus is not Margulis, she's Natah. She's a sentient that modeled herself after Margulis. Margulis was executed.
All good things in time
I haven't seen anyone mention this so far, so I'm not sure if it's just me.
There's several points in the video where the footage and audio skips ahead (such as 2:57:09) I was wondering if anyone else noticed this I just found it a bit jarring because characters keep cutting themselves off mid dialogue
Hi Magnus! So I made a note of this in the description, but this is primarily due to recording all of the video on a playstation 4's internal dvr. I imagine that loading and network connectivity created peaks in the consoles ram resulting in gaps in the recordings. There was really no way for me to avoid this short of buying a much more powerful PC and a capture card (which is not in my modest budget). Thank you for understanding though!
@@SocraTetris Ah that certainly makes sense. I looked in the description but must have missed that. I get how fickle the built in DVR can be as I play on Xbox myself.
Also I just want to say that I really respect your level of engagement with all the comments on the video and that you're taking the time to respond to much of the criticism and other comments.
Awesome work on the video
What do you think about all that recently added heart void story? It feels like plot hole (careless granma trying to fix her family risking all void magic on that side of the wall) over retcon (it's not actually our power to control void or magic been delegated to us via void god or whatever). And it's hard to believe Ballas did not know about it. DE should've at least tried to explain all that storypart more coherent.
I have mainly decided to withhold forming an opinion about the more recent bits of story until I see The New War, and have some time to reflect. I hope that neither of those, plot hole or retcon, are the case! lol
Considering how Deimos is pretty much a giant Infested skull-shaped moon, it’s likely that even if Ballas knew about it he took one look at the Infestation and thought “Nope, fuck that place”. Interestingly IIRC there aren’t any “Narmer” nodes on Deimos or Eris, primarily Infestation controlled planets.
@@fluorideinthechat7606after the Vessel's reveal, this Deimos description as skull-shaped is very interesting.
Amazing! I'm half way through and it's such a good recap for players like me who need a refresher but also for people who want to know the story but not play the game such as one of my friends. I appreciate all the time and dedication that went into making this video.
That is sxactly what i was going for, thank you!
I have been waiting for a video like this for warframe for so long
I'm glad you like it!
While I might not agree with all of your interpretations of things, this is a fantastic review of the lore, and I love hearing your analysis of the themes, ideas, and inspirations behind this game. Looking eagerly forward to more of your content, good sir!
EDIT: So sorry, I didn't even realize you had a note about the main thing I was in disagreement about in the description. And really, the confusion is entirely fair -- we still know so very little about what the Man In The Wall actually IS, and we knew even less during Chains of Harrow. And, again, I love hearing your takes on how everything connects and interacts! Respectful and divergent discourse is probably the best thing for a game with lore as tangled as Warframe's, I figure.
Glad to have you aboard, Kamina!
I could start the new war quest right now, but I think I’m gonna watch this (probably not all at once but rather in multiple smaller sessions). I want to make sure I’m completely caught up before I start the new war and after the first few minutes of this video im pretty sure this is my best option by far.
This is here to keep my place.
Current place: 5:59:00
You're very nearly done! I wonder if i can finish my next video before you reach the end? 🤔
This is truly amazing, you deserve a Lua Cross for this.
:')
1:45:00 I almost forgot that the metaplot started at the Chroma/Maroo quest.
I think that's Humhow...
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Honestly love this a very soothing voice with a kinda audio book theme that I can just put on and listen to one of my favorite games lore
This is the best comment anyone can get on a video essay! :D