A tip for the “beginners”: don’t get a projector screen at the beginning. If you can use a white wall and then further down the line get an acoustically transparent screen, where you can put your speakers behind it. This saves some money and it makes setup much easier, as when you don’t line it up properly you don’t see the imperfections. Also you’re not fixed to a specific screen size and aspect ratio. Of course having a screen might be necessary. I just project the image of my Benq on the wall and it looks great! Thanks for the great video! Hope you’re doing well!
Hey thanks for the tip! I was considering getting a movie projector for my home office where I like to wind down after work and watch movies. I live in my parents house so we have a 55 inch and a 65 inch TV but I definitely like to go bigger with a 100 inch or bigger for a more cinema movie experience. Also, I am not a rush buyer so I like to research specs and finding out details about its quality first before buying. This will not be my permanent home office theater for long because at some point I will move out my parents house one day so therefore it will be as easy to just unplug and pack away the projector. By the way. If I want to go surround sound say a 5.1 surround sound which is what I am looking into getting. I could just find a placement for the left, center, and right speakers and then scale up my screen in an area where I would be watching. Or vice versa?
"Tony's Projector List" is almost exactly what I've been running with for maybe a year and a half now, except I've got a Klipsch center channel. I wanted to double the room as a VR room and my old setup was too bulky, but I didn't wanna go crazy spending money either. I was scared I was going to take a big hit in sound quality but for movies in a small room it still sounds pretty full. Music on the other hand when you're doing fast turns while pulling off incredible dance moves doesn't sound as good but it was worth the compromise for my situation.
To be honest at first I was told my self I could never afford it....I started looking in the wrong places now this is well within my budget. You guys are really awesome for taking the time out to explain and give complete walk throughs...Me and my family sincerely appreciate that.
Ok; I was prepared to say "this could be done cheaper" but Matt selected my EXACT speaker setup except like you I went with a sub from SVS, so shutting up and enjoying the video. 👍🏽
@@Tearial311 Yup! HSU are some of the very best subs on the market when it comes to price to performance... I prefer sealed subs and their ULS-15 MK2 is an absolute beast, 15" driver and is on the same level as the SVS SB-4000... its only $800 and completely flat down to 20hz plus or minus 1db, it can hit 12.5hz at 90 dbs! The only problem is HSU doesn't ship outside the USA.
@@TorinTPG I got 8 of the klipsch r-1650-c in-ceiling speakers. We are about a year away from building our next house and I'm redoing the living surround system and will be building a theater room and these will work great for 4 Atmos heights each space. The price on them I couldn't pass. I'll probably be getting some others just don't know yet. Btw I just discovered this channel a week ago watched everything and will keep watching.
The key to a great home theater is planning in my opinion. You don't need to buy everything together, but as long as you plan you will not go wrong. A small suggestion is start by buying a TV/projector, then buying a good AVR and start with 2 good bookshelf speakers, then just use those 2 bookshelves as surrounds once you save enough money to buy your front left, center and right speakers. Eventually you can install Atmos speakers and so on
Planning often comes from experience... which sadly when you start this hobby you don't have, which is kinda why I make these videos, so people can see whats involved (from a DIY perspective) and then pick and choose what works for them.
I agree. This is my second home theater and I learned from the mistakes I did on my first one, though nowadays there is so much content online, thanks to people like you, that it's very easy to research beforehand. This is why this time I was able to plan better, I still have a lot to do, still don't have any lighting, need to do more research on an all in one remote, also waiting for the next iteration of the Google Nest Home. That's the beauty of DIY home theater in my opinion, it's an ongoing project, where you constantly learn and improve
Very creative, and well done video. I think this will be helpful for a lot of beginners, and just a excellent reminder that you can get a lot of "serious" HT gear without an exorbitant price tag. Would you be open to doing another video in this series? Perhaps a friendly competition of "user" submitted systems for under $5k?
Mmmmmmmm..............I wonder what the comparison would be in the Australian market. Much more expensive I think. Would be great to do an Aussie Home Theater build on a budget. Would be great to see more of Matt in your Videos.
T-Rev Man haha yep. More Matt for sure! I’d love to do an Aussie version but over 65% of my viewers are from the USA and the next two are India and England. Sadly I have a small audience here only 5%. So I had to adjust my focus to the US market. If things change I will do that for sure. Hopefully if things work out well I MAY be looking at KRIX speakers which is a great Aussie brand. Then I’ll definitely be showing that off!
@@BuildMontage No worries Tony. Love your content. I guess I'm jealous at how much more affordable it is in the U.S with this hobby. OMG, I've been looking at KRIX speakers only recently ! Their "Wall of Sound" looks absolutely amazing. If I got an acoustically transparent screen I would definitely look into that. Cheers mate.
Not how I would have done it but cool idea for a video. Here's mine: 75" Sony X900H or Optoma UHD50X or BenQ HT3550 with silver ticket screen, Q Acoustics 3020i, 3090i, 3010i, 2x SVS PB1000, Denon X1600h, Polk RC80i, and thick rug if you got hardwood floors over cheap acoustic treatments and no clue on the seats but probably need more than 1 :)
Cheaper mains and spend more on the subs is the way to go. Subs always steal the show. I would like to see a list like this for someone doing diy for all of the speakers. Also, for $2k, would you go for an 85in tv or a projector in a dedicated room with no windows?
If YOU MEAN by "complete HT" --GEAR ONLY...then yes. Forgetting about acoustic treatitments/sound suppression. Which to me is the other half of the equation. MORE vital than the electronics.
Pretty damn good choices for the budget. Obviously opinions will vary depending on tastes and experiences regarding brands and each person's room and proposed setup. But these options here are VERY solid. Loved the TV vs projector aspect also. Good stuff guys. This content is amazing for people considering getting into HT and I will reference this video to get the conversation started.
Mark Wilson thanks very much. We tried to give options to show it can be done on a small budget, and then upgrade over time and add things like power amps and power conditioners etc. but this gets u in the game. Appreciate the kind words and thanks for taking the time to comment.
Got my first full time job in IT! I remember in your other videos you mentioned you are in IT or were in IT. I am definitely looking forward to one day buying my own house and have an epic home theater setup! Here is the story, I first started with building a computer. Then I realized as I got more monitors, I started running out of space to work with on my small desk. I researched and saved up money after being inspired by TechSource and randomfrankp. Built my first IKEA desk setup. Now I am into movie entertainment because that is what I find relaxing after work at the end of the day. I've seen loads of examples of home theaters and my gosh people have really taken their designs to the next level whereas my parents are just basic and don't need anything fancy cause they are such a boomer. I am all about quality over quantity. Right now as for me just starting out my career and that is quantity over quality. Because I chose quantity, technology has gotten so good that for something so cheap is considered to be good until you have enough money for an upgrade. You just need external peripherals to bring out the best of your experience from gaming to watching movies. Once I make enough money, I'll begin to look into quality.
@@BuildMontage Thanks! I will stay subscribed to you to stay up-to-date with future contents. Once I move out and buy my own home, I would love to have a home theater with plenty of space to play VR, regular gaming, and watch movies all in one space if I could execute all of that. The only flaw with building a home theater setup is if you live in a house that was built from the 90's or earlier, the rooms are small or narrow and were actually designed to fit those fat 4:3 TV's. With the newer houses built in recent years, we have come to a more squarish and rectanglular rooms instead of some odd shape rooms so that you can have more flexibility for bedrooms, office and home theaters or a combination of those three if you can execute that idea.
Can you please explain how can I use surround back outputs as high channels? 7.1 Denon in that case. Don't they play wrong sounds? I have never understand why they call 7.1 atmos. 9.2 sounds more logic. As I still have 5.1 myself, I'm kinda dumb with that.
I do not own a Denon, but you can generally toggle the rear surrounds as rears or heights. For the Denon, this should enable the Atmos functionality. Also, 7.1 is not atmos. It would be 5.1.2. 5 ear height, 1 sub, 2 atmos height
I use a Silver Ticket screen and love it. I am using their 120 inch acoustically transparent screen. I chose white over ambient light rejection. What is your setup like? Can you control your ambient light?
Let me see what I can do. I was asked this in another comment and while I’d love to, over 65% of my audience is from the USA followed by India and England. Australia is sadly only 6.5% of my audience. Also $5K aud is a tall order as you probably know everything is super expensive here. Leave it with me though!
I think the choices are good, but all this just to do a streaming device as the player just seemed off to me. Wish there was option to add a high quality UHD player to get uncompressed audio to match those nice speakers and receiver.
I don't understand why you wouldn't get a better subwoofer with that budget. You want something that is pretty flat to 20hz. SVS is a much better pick than a Klispch sub. Just no reason to get one these days.
Me personalty i don't like both :D, But i think Matts one better. His speakers are balanced and will play nicely, his center channel is beefier and we know that the center channel is the most used one. The Pioneer ones, the center is a baby, the towers won't be able to be pushed, because the rest of the system will be lacking, it's an unbalanced system. I would also get a denon over a pioneer. I would go in ceiling if possible, if not on top of the speakers works great! On Matts setup i really wanted to get a beefier sub. That klipsh for the price is good, i may reduce the projector to the benq one and spend an extra for a second sub. Problem is that you need to spend on calibration gear in order to make both subs work, going with a single sub mostly eliminates this issue. These setups are probably going in a living room instead of a dedicated room, remove that one seater chair and use your living room couch most people will have. For the TV i would also go with Matts Sony over samsung. You can go cheaper will a 75inch or even a 65 inch. Most rooms won't be able to fit bigger TVs so money can be saved there. If we consider again that this setup is going in a living room, and the person already has a decent TV then a HT can be build for half of the price. Nvidia shield FOR LIFE!
Interesting perspective. The Pioneer aren’t that bad actually. Have you heard them in person? I love Klipsch - that’s what I have in my own theater - but I wanted to try something different for this little challenge. There may be more of these types of videos coming, potentially. Be interested to see your list for $5k. Maybe you can make one and link it?
@@BuildMontage i'm not from the USA and i have to spend some time looking how the prices are there. I'm more familiar with the Europe prices and europe products. I'm not saying the Pioneer speakers are bad. It's just that the center channel has 2x 4 inch drivers, while the towers have 1x 5.25 inch for mids and 2x5.25 for bass. One is a 2way the other is a 3way. They won't have the same synergy and panning details between the center the LR. That's why i though the klipsh setup would have better sound stage. The klipsh has 6.5 for the tower, the center is using a 2x5.25 and the surrounds are using a 4inch. Still not perfect but really close for the LCR. Also their crossover is lower, it will reduce beaming problems. The pioneer center is crossed at 3khz, ouch. I love videos like there :).
Quetzalcoalt fun input! There are endless options out there. We tried to get as much “bang for the buck” as possible with brands people are familiar with. We look forward to trying other options on the future! 😀
@@BuildMontage I've learned that Samsung is only best for living room's.....when make a Home Theater space im sure 98% of ppl have control of the light coming in, so no need for that Samsung lol.... thanks u once again for all your info on the channel as I'm buying my 1st house and the basement is going to be the Man Cave/ Theater Room/ Sports Bar space with a short throw projector!!! U the man
The Sony X800H is a marginally better TV than the Samsung TU8000. The differences come down to their panels, as the Sony has an IPS panel, so it has much better viewing angles. It also supports a wide color gamut and the out-of-box color accuracy is much better, plus it can get significantly brighter. On the other hand, the VA panel on the Samsung delivers a much better dark room performance with an excellent contrast ratio and incredible black uniformity.
Things have changed since this video dropped. Now you can buy a dedicated 13.2 channel processor for $1300 (Tonewinner or Emotiva MC-1) So I would get one of those and two BasX A7 Amplifiers for a total of $2700. A $500 1080p projector/screen 5 pair of the Monoprice 65RP $70/pr $350 1 pair of the monopice T65RT towers $135 Monoprice C65RT center $60 Polk PSW10 x4 $150 ea $600 total. That would give me over $600 left for mounting hardware, a chair, cables/wires and covers and room treatments. That would give me a projector with a 100" (or 120") screen and 7.4.6 Dolby Atmos and DTSX.
Somethings yes, but a lot of things have gone way up in price too! Was a fun video to make but also very time consuming which is why I havent made another one since!
I'm working on a 10k build right now - so far this is what I have spec'd/priced out - Theater seating Newton powered sofa and loveseat ($2550 gardner white), STR-169128-G Silver Ticket Products, 128" Diagonal - ($340), Epson 4040 ($1769) Denon IN-Command Series AVR-X6500H 11.2 Channel AV Network Receiver ($1499), Speakers: RP-8000F (fronts), RP-504C (center), RP-502S (Sides) RP-6000F (rears) Polk Audio AW0080-B RC80i (Atmos Ceiling), R-112SW Sub's - ($4,125) - Fiber HDMI - 30' ($122) InstallGear 12 Gauge Speaker Wire - 99.9% Oxygen-Free Copper with 12 Banana Plugs (100-feet) ($48) - Lighting I have Philips Hue hooked up to alexa, I'll be using them for overheads and adding an LED light strip behind the screen (14.99) , building my own custom acoustic panels (50$ budget) and a Logitech Harmony Companion (99) all in $10,708 - I am still working on that price, I'll likely come down on the speakers, I like what Matt Spec'd out, so I'll likely take some advice there - but I am curious, I am not sold on the epson 100% yet. 13'7x21 foot room, I was looking at the Epson, the LG hu70 LAB and the BenQ 3550. I am up for suggestions in that price range for best bang for my buck. --- Thanks for the great videos!
Sounds like it going to be a nice setup. A lot of what was in this video was more for inspiration to show you can do it. Even more if you go used. The projector I have is the Epson TW9300, so glad I went with it - its fantastic. Dont have much experience with the other ones - I have demo'd the Benq lineup faux 4k it was pretty good but the epson was heads and shoulders better.
Ahmad M AlMutairi I’m not familiar with this specific brand. There are plenty of good options out there and i picked one for this video that won’t break the bank and looks nicer than the “egg crate” style
Hey tony, I was wondering. Iv been doing alot of homework on the home theater world and one thing I'm still trying to figure out how to do is get the atmos full experience without messing with installing speakers in the roof. Rent an apartment so doing something like that would probably be a golden ticket to getting evicted. I noticed you mentioned some speakers that are capable of somewhat giving the atmos experience but you also commented that the experience was almost like a knock off or imitated at best, so WHAT would be the best option to go with. Even if I had to spend just slightly over the 5k mark?
I don’t like to tell people where to spend but are you looking at something like an SVS elevation speaker for on wall, angled? Or do you want to cut holes in the ceiling? You can get “bouncing” Atmos. An example is the Klipsch RP-250AF which has the upward foreign speaker in the top of the tower. Hope that helps!
@@BuildMontage Prime Elevation would be a great fit. You could likely mount them with 3M Command Strips (Note - check the weight rating and use at your own risk) or a similar mounting method without damaging the walls
It’s a start.. lots of things can be added. A good UHD player would have blown the budget. Whole point of this was to give some inspiration to newcomers.
I've had my HT setup for over 3 years and still do not own a UHD player. I stream for 4k or utilize Plex. Between these two options, I've not found a need to purchase a standalone device. This is why I recommend the NVIDIA shield since it can do all of the 4k streaming app and makes a killer platform for running plex
I'd have to agree with adding a disc player to the package, if I were configuring something from nothing. Leave out the lighting and universal remote to start. Borrow $100 from the $1k subwoofer budget. Panasonic and Sony make nice 4K players for $200-$300. After all, that's the best way to really see how GREAT your new TV or projector can look.
Maybe you can do a home theatre for $5K in England where you live, but here in Canada, there's no way you could build a worthwhile theatre for less than 10K. You'll never find stuff that cheap over here. Almost everything in this video is twice that in Canada.
Oddi3 Hahaha!! Yeah I know man... feels bad. I don’t know if I’ll make another one of these anyway.. if I did AU it would have to be a higher budget. Everything’s so expensive over here.
Not sure what that means specifically as I’m an Aussie. We pay tax when we buy things at the time of purchase and it’s always included in the price of an item.
Does this kit seem reasonably? Not much atmos kit over here... www.darty.com/nav/achat/hifi_video/enceinte_home_cinema/pack_enceintes/jamo_pack_s807hcs_5_0_2wh.html#product_caracteristics
I am a subscriber here so no bashing. Amazon links are pure and simple an income source for the channel. Channel owners really are not interested in the viewers convenience. Do some good for the majority of companies and always buy retail...first. Amazon is sucking the life out of HI-FI retailers....with no auditioning capabilities. I hope this channel has some sympathy and compassion about this issue. Let's see now in the future some proof of sharing the love 😚.
A projector and a large screen is part of it. But the experience is a big part of it as well. A smaller room with a large TV can provide a similar experience to a larger with with a projector. I've seen some neat setups that utilize a TV with some KILLER speakers and subwoofers that will immerse you more than a large screen
The missus said to me the other day..... Let me get this straight. You spend £1,000 on speaker cables because you can 'hear the difference," but you can't hear me calling you from the kitchen ☺
Please do more at different price points. 10k, 20k.
This was the idea... dip the toe in the water to see if people like the idea :) thanks!
Home theater is always scalable, so this sounds fun!
Build Montage I enjoyed this but a $10k challenge is more what I was looking for. Hope you get to this sooner than later!
This ^^^
It would be great to see the different outcomes based on price to gauge a budget for a theater.
A tip for the “beginners”: don’t get a projector screen at the beginning. If you can use a white wall and then further down the line get an acoustically transparent screen, where you can put your speakers behind it. This saves some money and it makes setup much easier, as when you don’t line it up properly you don’t see the imperfections. Also you’re not fixed to a specific screen size and aspect ratio. Of course having a screen might be necessary. I just project the image of my Benq on the wall and it looks great! Thanks for the great video! Hope you’re doing well!
Hey thanks for the tip! I was considering getting a movie projector for my home office where I like to wind down after work and watch movies. I live in my parents house so we have a 55 inch and a 65 inch TV but I definitely like to go bigger with a 100 inch or bigger for a more cinema movie experience. Also, I am not a rush buyer so I like to research specs and finding out details about its quality first before buying. This will not be my permanent home office theater for long because at some point I will move out my parents house one day so therefore it will be as easy to just unplug and pack away the projector.
By the way. If I want to go surround sound say a 5.1 surround sound which is what I am looking into getting. I could just find a placement for the left, center, and right speakers and then scale up my screen in an area where I would be watching. Or vice versa?
This is what I did at first for several years and it works fine if you have a smooth wall! Thanks for the pointing this out
@@supercoolmunkee I'm not quite sure I fully understand your question, but yes you can move the speakers and projector around as needed for your room
Built my 177 AT screen for $257 in material cost. Looks amazing with my 5040 Epson!
Tips for beginner : home theater with a TV is not a home theater
"Tony's Projector List" is almost exactly what I've been running with for maybe a year and a half now, except I've got a Klipsch center channel. I wanted to double the room as a VR room and my old setup was too bulky, but I didn't wanna go crazy spending money either. I was scared I was going to take a big hit in sound quality but for movies in a small room it still sounds pretty full. Music on the other hand when you're doing fast turns while pulling off incredible dance moves doesn't sound as good but it was worth the compromise for my situation.
I really wanted a home theater but didn't know where to start. Thank you for giving me a starting point. Godbless
These are just some ideas. I have a playlist on my channel and at the end of the video which has a whole bunch of info that could help u get started.
Thank you I will post pics and send you the finished product.
Sodon this was our goal going into this. The home theater journey is fun, but daunting at first. Hope this helps!
To be honest at first I was told my self I could never afford it....I started looking in the wrong places now this is well within my budget. You guys are really awesome for taking the time out to explain and give complete walk throughs...Me and my family sincerely appreciate that.
love the video.....this shows that anything is possible....
Ok; I was prepared to say "this could be done cheaper" but Matt selected my EXACT speaker setup except like you I went with a sub from SVS, so shutting up and enjoying the video. 👍🏽
We ran different scenarios for over a week. Everything starts adding up when you add all of these items. Happy you enjoyed it!!
Check out HSU Research for a sub. Love my 12” $500
@@Tearial311 Yup! HSU are some of the very best subs on the market when it comes to price to performance... I prefer sealed subs and their ULS-15 MK2 is an absolute beast, 15" driver and is on the same level as the SVS SB-4000... its only $800 and completely flat down to 20hz plus or minus 1db, it can hit 12.5hz at 90 dbs! The only problem is HSU doesn't ship outside the USA.
Great video. Nice visualisation
I just bought some of the suggestions. Thanks for the links and the deal shopping for me!
Awesome! Mind if I ask what you got? Hopefully some of the suggestions we made work great for you
@@TorinTPG I got 8 of the klipsch r-1650-c in-ceiling speakers. We are about a year away from building our next house and I'm redoing the living surround system and will be building a theater room and these will work great for 4 Atmos heights each space. The price on them I couldn't pass. I'll probably be getting some others just don't know yet. Btw I just discovered this channel a week ago watched everything and will keep watching.
Matt Cochran this is great! Feel free to hop on our discord server. We have a great community of people that love to help and share their advice!
The key to a great home theater is planning in my opinion. You don't need to buy everything together, but as long as you plan you will not go wrong. A small suggestion is start by buying a TV/projector, then buying a good AVR and start with 2 good bookshelf speakers, then just use those 2 bookshelves as surrounds once you save enough money to buy your front left, center and right speakers. Eventually you can install Atmos speakers and so on
Planning often comes from experience... which sadly when you start this hobby you don't have, which is kinda why I make these videos, so people can see whats involved (from a DIY perspective) and then pick and choose what works for them.
I agree. This is my second home theater and I learned from the mistakes I did on my first one, though nowadays there is so much content online, thanks to people like you, that it's very easy to research beforehand. This is why this time I was able to plan better, I still have a lot to do, still don't have any lighting, need to do more research on an all in one remote, also waiting for the next iteration of the Google Nest Home. That's the beauty of DIY home theater in my opinion, it's an ongoing project, where you constantly learn and improve
Very creative, and well done video. I think this will be helpful for a lot of beginners, and just a excellent reminder that you can get a lot of "serious" HT gear without an exorbitant price tag. Would you be open to doing another video in this series? Perhaps a friendly competition of "user" submitted systems for under $5k?
Thanks and sure why not. I’ve already had one submission if you check the comments.
I like this idea!
1. Klipsch bestbuy open box klipsch R-820-F x3 ($900)
2. 3 Bic america f12s $$630
3. Wires $120
4. Custom ALR screen 130 inches $300
5. Svs wireless adaptors x3 $300
6. Sony SSCS5 rear, and atmos plus sides 3 sets $150x3=$450
7. Denon AVR-S750H Receiver $500
8. UHD60 used $1200
9. Comfy couch on facebook marketplace with avr cabinet with table. $400
10. Mount $60
Great video brother!!!! Good equipment picks.
Thanks Chris! Was a fun but very time intensive edit :)
Well done! A lot of work went into that video.
The photoshop overlays look awesome!
Glad you enjoyed it And yes, it did LOL.. glad you appreciated that :)
Mmmmmmmm..............I wonder what the comparison would be in the Australian market. Much more expensive I think. Would be great to do an Aussie Home Theater build on a budget. Would be great to see more of Matt in your Videos.
T-Rev Man haha yep. More Matt for sure! I’d love to do an Aussie version but over 65% of my viewers are from the USA and the next two are India and England. Sadly I have a small audience here only 5%. So I had to adjust my focus to the US market. If things change I will do that for sure. Hopefully if things work out well I MAY be looking at KRIX speakers which is a great Aussie brand. Then I’ll definitely be showing that off!
@@BuildMontage No worries Tony. Love your content. I guess I'm jealous at how much more affordable it is in the U.S with this hobby. OMG, I've been looking at KRIX speakers only recently ! Their "Wall of Sound" looks absolutely amazing. If I got an acoustically transparent screen I would definitely look into that. Cheers mate.
Fantastic video buddy. This would have taken a lot of work in Photoshop and editing, so well done brother!
Spec Of Tech thanks bud. This was by far the most complex vid I’ve made. I post a screenshot in Discord lol
@@BuildMontage No problem man. I just went and checked it out on Discord, that looks intense, good work though!
Great video!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Any one of these setups would be really nice.
Agreed. I’m partial to Klipsch but wanted to do something different for a change :)
Amazing video.
Not how I would have done it but cool idea for a video. Here's mine: 75" Sony X900H or Optoma UHD50X or BenQ HT3550 with silver ticket screen, Q Acoustics 3020i, 3090i, 3010i, 2x SVS PB1000, Denon X1600h, Polk RC80i, and thick rug if you got hardwood floors over cheap acoustic treatments and no clue on the seats but probably need more than 1 :)
I like Tony Projector Setup list
Make sure u check the community page on my channel and cast a vote!
Great video. Great info 👍
Thanks :)
There's a receiver missing on the lists!
Cheaper mains and spend more on the subs is the way to go. Subs always steal the show. I would like to see a list like this for someone doing diy for all of the speakers. Also, for $2k, would you go for an 85in tv or a projector in a dedicated room with no windows?
If YOU MEAN by "complete HT" --GEAR ONLY...then yes. Forgetting about acoustic treatitments/sound suppression. Which to me is the other half of the equation. MORE vital than the electronics.
Found your page while reviewing components. Great content, very informative.
Pretty damn good choices for the budget. Obviously opinions will vary depending on tastes and experiences regarding brands and each person's room and proposed setup. But these options here are VERY solid.
Loved the TV vs projector aspect also. Good stuff guys. This content is amazing for people considering getting into HT and I will reference this video to get the conversation started.
Mark Wilson thanks very much. We tried to give options to show it can be done on a small budget, and then upgrade over time and add things like power amps and power conditioners etc. but this gets u in the game. Appreciate the kind words and thanks for taking the time to comment.
Happy you enjoyed it! Tony worked his magic and put everything together for us. Still pretty cool that Tony asked for my help with this 😀
Got my first full time job in IT! I remember in your other videos you mentioned you are in IT or were in IT. I am definitely looking forward to one day buying my own house and have an epic home theater setup! Here is the story, I first started with building a computer. Then I realized as I got more monitors, I started running out of space to work with on my small desk. I researched and saved up money after being inspired by TechSource and randomfrankp. Built my first IKEA desk setup. Now I am into movie entertainment because that is what I find relaxing after work at the end of the day. I've seen loads of examples of home theaters and my gosh people have really taken their designs to the next level whereas my parents are just basic and don't need anything fancy cause they are such a boomer. I am all about quality over quantity. Right now as for me just starting out my career and that is quantity over quality. Because I chose quantity, technology has gotten so good that for something so cheap is considered to be good until you have enough money for an upgrade. You just need external peripherals to bring out the best of your experience from gaming to watching movies. Once I make enough money, I'll begin to look into quality.
Awesome stuff man! Stick with it :)
@@BuildMontage Thanks! I will stay subscribed to you to stay up-to-date with future contents. Once I move out and buy my own home, I would love to have a home theater with plenty of space to play VR, regular gaming, and watch movies all in one space if I could execute all of that. The only flaw with building a home theater setup is if you live in a house that was built from the 90's or earlier, the rooms are small or narrow and were actually designed to fit those fat 4:3 TV's. With the newer houses built in recent years, we have come to a more squarish and rectanglular rooms instead of some odd shape rooms so that you can have more flexibility for bedrooms, office and home theaters or a combination of those three if you can execute that idea.
Keep it up man!
Thanks! Will do!
nice information
Can you please explain how can I use surround back outputs as high channels? 7.1 Denon in that case. Don't they play wrong sounds? I have never understand why they call 7.1 atmos. 9.2 sounds more logic.
As I still have 5.1 myself, I'm kinda dumb with that.
I do not own a Denon, but you can generally toggle the rear surrounds as rears or heights. For the Denon, this should enable the Atmos functionality. Also, 7.1 is not atmos. It would be 5.1.2. 5 ear height, 1 sub, 2 atmos height
Not bad and thanks for this information
love your videos Matt
I’ll be sure to rope him into helping me out with more of these!
@@BuildMontage It would be my pleasure :)
Might want to include costs of replacement lamps for projectors?
There’s a lot of things could have gone in but budget... I don’t have a spare lamp lol
Sorry for being late xD, nice tech content!
Yo I’m always first
Another great video!
If you like this one, wait for the one coming later this week ;)
What color Silver Ticket screen would you recommend? Or what do people normally go for?
I use a Silver Ticket screen and love it. I am using their 120 inch acoustically transparent screen. I chose white over ambient light rejection. What is your setup like? Can you control your ambient light?
Mate, can you do an Aussie version of this video with price in AUD$?
Let me see what I can do. I was asked this in another comment and while I’d love to, over 65% of my audience is from the USA followed by India and England. Australia is sadly only 6.5% of my audience. Also $5K aud is a tall order as you probably know everything is super expensive here. Leave it with me though!
@@BuildMontage thanks mate. Hopefully i can get a good deal on a 5.1 set up.
Jonathan Mondejar why not join our discord? Lots of Aussies on it and can ask questions and see if we can help u :) links in the description!
Do the receivers that you listed allow for a connection to external amp down the road should I choose more speakers down the line?
I think the choices are good, but all this just to do a streaming device as the player just seemed off to me. Wish there was option to add a high quality UHD player to get uncompressed audio to match those nice speakers and receiver.
The whole point is you can mix and match to suit, it was just an idea we had to see if it could be done :)
Hi. Like Matt's suggestions except for sony tv.
Hah. Easy to sub it out for something else. That’s the fun part about it 😀
Pls make 2 videos a week atleast..
Kiran Raj it’s a struggle as these vids take a lot of work and I have a full time job so can only do at night and weekends. Appreciate the support.
If you add sales tax you would blow the budget haha
Cool topic for a video guys! Just cast a vote for your Projector setup Tony.....sorry Matt!
Haha thanks Jase! Not sure how the vid will do but giving it a crack! May be we could do higher budgets and use a 3D model next time as well!
10k video!
SOON! I promise - I have a long queue and I work full time so i only have limited resources to make one video a week. Promise - its coming.
$10k challenge sounds fun!
how much would installation have added to the price? thanks
Good question! We assumed that this would be a self-installation, so no installation costs
Do the $10k video sooooooooon
I’ll try my best! 10k gives us more room to play with
Great video! I didn't see any guide like this on other home theater channels. 👍 A question: how much is the TV stand? 😅😉
Just placeholder. I think it was 699 aud
Trying to come up with original ideas but was a ton of work to make.
@@BuildMontage I'm just teasing you as it wasn't included in the budget😅😉
Hahaha!! That was already in the house lololol
I don't understand why you wouldn't get a better subwoofer with that budget. You want something that is pretty flat to 20hz. SVS is a much better pick than a Klispch sub. Just no reason to get one these days.
Me personalty i don't like both :D, But i think Matts one better. His speakers are balanced and will play nicely, his center channel is beefier and we know that the center channel is the most used one. The Pioneer ones, the center is a baby, the towers won't be able to be pushed, because the rest of the system will be lacking, it's an unbalanced system. I would also get a denon over a pioneer.
I would go in ceiling if possible, if not on top of the speakers works great!
On Matts setup i really wanted to get a beefier sub. That klipsh for the price is good, i may reduce the projector to the benq one and spend an extra for a second sub. Problem is that you need to spend on calibration gear in order to make both subs work, going with a single sub mostly eliminates this issue.
These setups are probably going in a living room instead of a dedicated room, remove that one seater chair and use your living room couch most people will have.
For the TV i would also go with Matts Sony over samsung. You can go cheaper will a 75inch or even a 65 inch. Most rooms won't be able to fit bigger TVs so money can be saved there. If we consider again that this setup is going in a living room, and the person already has a decent TV then a HT can be build for half of the price.
Nvidia shield FOR LIFE!
Interesting perspective. The Pioneer aren’t that bad actually. Have you heard them in person? I love Klipsch - that’s what I have in my own theater - but I wanted to try something different for this little challenge. There may be more of these types of videos coming, potentially. Be interested to see your list for $5k. Maybe you can make one and link it?
@@BuildMontage i'm not from the USA and i have to spend some time looking how the prices are there. I'm more familiar with the Europe prices and europe products.
I'm not saying the Pioneer speakers are bad. It's just that the center channel has 2x 4 inch drivers, while the towers have 1x 5.25 inch for mids and 2x5.25 for bass. One is a 2way the other is a 3way.
They won't have the same synergy and panning details between the center the LR. That's why i though the klipsh setup would have better sound stage. The klipsh has 6.5 for the tower, the center is using a 2x5.25 and the surrounds are using a 4inch. Still not perfect but really close for the LCR. Also their crossover is lower, it will reduce beaming problems. The pioneer center is crossed at 3khz, ouch.
I love videos like there :).
Quetzalcoalt fun input! There are endless options out there. We tried to get as much “bang for the buck” as possible with brands people are familiar with. We look forward to trying other options on the future! 😀
Damn that Samsung TV killed the set up for me lol..... great job overall
I’ve always had Samsung although my latest is actually a Sony.
@@BuildMontage I've learned that Samsung is only best for living room's.....when make a Home Theater space im sure 98% of ppl have control of the light coming in, so no need for that Samsung lol.... thanks u once again for all your info on the channel as I'm buying my 1st house and the basement is going to be the Man Cave/ Theater Room/ Sports Bar space with a short throw projector!!! U the man
Maquejode Vidal sounds like the setup will be awesome!
The Sony X800H is a marginally better TV than the Samsung TU8000. The differences come down to their panels, as the Sony has an IPS panel, so it has much better viewing angles. It also supports a wide color gamut and the out-of-box color accuracy is much better, plus it can get significantly brighter. On the other hand, the VA panel on the Samsung delivers a much better dark room performance with an excellent contrast ratio and incredible black uniformity.
Question. Going with Matt’s Klipsch sound set up. What would you recommend for side speaker to get a 7.1.2 set up?
Hi Ben, I know Matt has suggested the Klipsch THX Ultra 8000-L or 8000-S or for on walls the RP-5002.
Thank you! I just found your Channel and I really enjoy it! Great content!
Thanks very much :)
No dvd player? HT not complete without one.
Things have changed since this video dropped.
Now you can buy a dedicated 13.2 channel processor for $1300 (Tonewinner or Emotiva MC-1)
So I would get one of those and two BasX A7 Amplifiers for a total of $2700.
A $500 1080p projector/screen
5 pair of the Monoprice 65RP $70/pr $350
1 pair of the monopice T65RT towers $135
Monoprice C65RT center $60
Polk PSW10 x4 $150 ea $600 total.
That would give me over $600 left for mounting hardware, a chair, cables/wires and covers and room treatments.
That would give me a projector with a 100" (or 120") screen and 7.4.6 Dolby Atmos and DTSX.
Somethings yes, but a lot of things have gone way up in price too! Was a fun video to make but also very time consuming which is why I havent made another one since!
can you build a home there and hi fi audio with 10k usa dollars?
I'm working on a 10k build right now - so far this is what I have spec'd/priced out - Theater seating Newton powered sofa and loveseat ($2550 gardner white), STR-169128-G Silver Ticket Products, 128" Diagonal - ($340), Epson 4040 ($1769) Denon IN-Command Series AVR-X6500H 11.2 Channel AV Network Receiver ($1499), Speakers: RP-8000F (fronts), RP-504C (center), RP-502S (Sides) RP-6000F (rears) Polk Audio AW0080-B RC80i (Atmos Ceiling), R-112SW Sub's - ($4,125) - Fiber HDMI - 30' ($122) InstallGear 12 Gauge Speaker Wire - 99.9% Oxygen-Free Copper with 12 Banana Plugs (100-feet) ($48) - Lighting I have Philips Hue hooked up to alexa, I'll be using them for overheads and adding an LED light strip behind the screen (14.99) , building my own custom acoustic panels (50$ budget) and a Logitech Harmony Companion (99) all in $10,708 - I am still working on that price, I'll likely come down on the speakers, I like what Matt Spec'd out, so I'll likely take some advice there - but I am curious, I am not sold on the epson 100% yet. 13'7x21 foot room, I was looking at the Epson, the LG hu70 LAB and the BenQ 3550. I am up for suggestions in that price range for best bang for my buck. --- Thanks for the great videos!
Sounds like it going to be a nice setup. A lot of what was in this video was more for inspiration to show you can do it. Even more if you go used. The projector I have is the Epson TW9300, so glad I went with it - its fantastic. Dont have much experience with the other ones - I have demo'd the Benq lineup faux 4k it was pretty good but the epson was heads and shoulders better.
Can you do an ideal $15,000 USD theater
I will certainly add to this series. Thanks for the suggestion
Great video 👍
Do you recommend (DEKIRU Upgraded panels) for home theater use ? is it good? 😅
Ahmad M AlMutairi I’m not familiar with this specific brand. There are plenty of good options out there and i picked one for this video that won’t break the bank and looks nicer than the “egg crate” style
Missing a 4K bluray player.
Svs satellite speaker for $1000 then plus atmos speakers that be $1000 something
Victor Pulos yes another good option
I would love for you to review my system on your channel. How do I accomplish this?
Jump on my discord server (links in the description) and send me a private message so we can discuss.
@@BuildMontage Just signed up earlier. Will send you a message. Mel
Hey tony, I was wondering. Iv been doing alot of homework on the home theater world and one thing I'm still trying to figure out how to do is get the atmos full experience without messing with installing speakers in the roof. Rent an apartment so doing something like that would probably be a golden ticket to getting evicted. I noticed you mentioned some speakers that are capable of somewhat giving the atmos experience but you also commented that the experience was almost like a knock off or imitated at best, so WHAT would be the best option to go with. Even if I had to spend just slightly over the 5k mark?
I don’t like to tell people where to spend but are you looking at something like an SVS elevation speaker for on wall, angled? Or do you want to cut holes in the ceiling? You can get “bouncing” Atmos. An example is the Klipsch RP-250AF which has the upward foreign speaker in the top of the tower. Hope that helps!
@@BuildMontage Prime Elevation would be a great fit. You could likely mount them with 3M Command Strips (Note - check the weight rating and use at your own risk) or a similar mounting method without damaging the walls
NO 4K BLU RAY PLAYERS? Are you kidding ?
It’s a start.. lots of things can be added. A good UHD player would have blown the budget. Whole point of this was to give some inspiration to newcomers.
I've had my HT setup for over 3 years and still do not own a UHD player. I stream for 4k or utilize Plex. Between these two options, I've not found a need to purchase a standalone device. This is why I recommend the NVIDIA shield since it can do all of the 4k streaming app and makes a killer platform for running plex
I'd have to agree with adding a disc player to the package, if I were configuring something from nothing. Leave out the lighting and universal remote to start. Borrow $100 from the $1k subwoofer budget. Panasonic and Sony make nice 4K players for $200-$300. After all, that's the best way to really see how GREAT your new TV or projector can look.
Maybe you can do a home theatre for $5K in England where you live, but here in Canada, there's no way you could build a worthwhile theatre for less than 10K. You'll never find stuff that cheap over here. Almost everything in this video is twice that in Canada.
i just built a nice home theater for under 5k, i could make a video if you wanted
Hey Adam, why not join the Discord server and PM me - love to see what you came up with!
Dayton Audio products could've saved you $$$
Links please :)
Amazon.com, no .au? Dude, you've sold out to the US market.. Derryn Hinch says shame, shame 🤣
Oddi3 Hahaha!! Yeah I know man... feels bad. I don’t know if I’ll make another one of these anyway.. if I did AU it would have to be a higher budget. Everything’s so expensive over here.
@@BuildMontage I get it mate , you'd need to double your budget here.. should do an AU edition though
Including tax??🤔
Not sure what that means specifically as I’m an Aussie. We pay tax when we buy things at the time of purchase and it’s always included in the price of an item.
$5000 Australian would have been better...
Sadly wouldn't have gotten very far LOL! I may do more of these in the future.. if there is interest.
I first assumed it was 5000 AUD. And got my hopes up. Lol
Does this kit seem reasonably? Not much atmos kit over here...
www.darty.com/nav/achat/hifi_video/enceinte_home_cinema/pack_enceintes/jamo_pack_s807hcs_5_0_2wh.html#product_caracteristics
Yes... check out my crappy video. My system is 5.1.4 for $4000. I have upgrade my projector to the Viewsonic PX727-4K
First Good content sorry for being late:D
It’s expected now!
Lol
I am a subscriber here so no bashing.
Amazon links are pure and simple an income source for the channel. Channel owners really are not interested in the viewers convenience.
Do some good for the majority of companies and always buy retail...first. Amazon is sucking the life out of HI-FI retailers....with no auditioning capabilities. I hope this channel has some sympathy and compassion about this issue. Let's see now in the future some proof of sharing the love 😚.
Can you actually call it a home theater. If your not using a projector? I don't think so.
Personally I agree but the camps are divided!
A projector and a large screen is part of it. But the experience is a big part of it as well. A smaller room with a large TV can provide a similar experience to a larger with with a projector. I've seen some neat setups that utilize a TV with some KILLER speakers and subwoofers that will immerse you more than a large screen
Q: How does a poor home theatre enthusiast end up with £10,000
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A: Because he started with £20,000 😄
Hahahahahaha!!!!!
The missus said to me the other day..... Let me get this straight. You spend £1,000 on speaker cables because you can 'hear the difference," but you can't hear me calling you from the kitchen ☺