Quivers for Primitive Archery/Hunting
Вставка
- Опубліковано 27 лис 2024
- Ryan Gill of HuntPrimitive walks through how and why he sets up his quiver for hunting with primitive implements.
If you are interested in a DIY Quiver kit, you can find them here. gillsprimitive...
For finished bobcat quivers, you can find them at this link. gillsprimitive...
We also have a few other quiver options and much much more at gillsprimitive...
I’m sort of new to this, but I’m astounded that there are people who still hunt with primitive bows and stone points. Great respect to you who preserve the traditions.
Proof is in the end game. Kills mean success. Gill can make kills. His ideas, Philosophies, gear, and success is evident.
Nice vid brother. My grandfather and father taught me from very young to use my quiver to carry arrows but I actually have 4 in my bow hand and one nocked and ready to shoot. When I run out I grab another handful and keep shooting. Much faster this way. I’m now fifty and it’s just become second nature.
Thanks for telling the pros and cons of your products. That means a lot, compared to people that never tell the downsides of their equipment.
Absolutely beautiful work! Really like the fringes
I'd use rawhide for a liner....I must have made dozens of quivers from every culture. Even a Oetzi type. Mongolian horse quiver. Quilled braintanned Mandan style. My latest is a bear-skin covered birchbark quiver, to honor my germanic ancestry. And I put in cedar sawdust in to the bottom of some of my quivers....so much fun to make
Would you be willing to post some pictures that sounds awesome. I would love to see it
@@justsomeguywithaboomerang1891 too bad, can't post here...would love to
I have heard of people using a primitive belt (sound more complicated than it is to be completely honest) and attaching their quiver to that using the belt as a sort of utility belt adding the pouches to it for the occasional foraging or for the extra bowstring like you do. I have no idea where I saw it but I remember being fascinated by it.
Finally a "quiver for hunting" video showing broad heads, not field points.
Hey Ryan, wanted to pass on a suggestion to you for your tag line. Educate, Entertain and Inspire. I was thinking Educate, Entertain and Energize as a way to alliterate the tag line and still keep the meaning as Energize is a synonym for Inspire and in keeping with the idea of literary alliteration. Just my 2 cents worth which when adjusted for inflation isn't worth much. 😂🤣😂 p.s. Maybe encourage...IDK
I've found that your favorite quiver choice is the best I've ever used in a hunt. I haven't gone full primitive and still use homemade steel points and modern string. To keep my points sharp I have leather or cardboard booties for the heads. For the carrying strap I have a couple cinch rings so that I can shorten or lengthen the strap and the quiver covers about half the fletching. I've found that the feathers won't crush and I can turn the quiver upside down and the arrows won't fall out. I can wear it at either hip, across both shoulders, or cinch up the strap and carry it like the old traditional over the shoulder. But looking at your setup you've given me an idea or two and my old beat up quiver sure doesn't have the panache yours does. For hunting that sty.e is THE best. I could go on naming its advantages but I'm sure you already know them so I'll shut up. I prefer the old plains Indian knife sheath too, with a few innovations, but I'll shut up about that too.
Any recommendations for making steel points?
@@ryanmccabe1036 3 thirty seconds O-1 steel, a torch to temper it with, and a belt grinder to grind and sharpen. If you use wood shafts and hot glue your heads you can use a practice point for the base. Just grind out a slot at the point and up the head wide enough to accept the blade. Drill a couple holes through both the practice head and your home made broad head. Pen them together and peen the pins. Also, run a little silver solder around your joints. I always take a file and thin from the tip of the practice point on a slope up to where you glue joint would be. Don't make your broadhead any wider than what is legal and the length about twice the width. What you'll have is a heavy head that will hit with authority, and penetrate better than anything you cou.d buy. Get your steel from any of the knife making supply catalogs and learn how to temper. I sharpen with 400 Grit belt until I raise a burr then polish with leather. It'll shave your whiskers.
@@larryreese6146 I didn't even think of using field points as a base, thanks a ton. I have a bunch of O1 sitting around so that's perfect.
@@ryanmccabe1036 don't forget to narrow the points down from the tip to the back. The idea is to make a heavier head but you need to streamline it as much as you can. What's the term, FOC? But I don't like my broadhead any wider than it has to be. And I want it sharp. I usually make the broadhead in the rough, fit it to the field point, drill the holes, taper the field point, disassemble, temper, grind, reassemble and sharpen. Keep it balanced. That O-1 or similar is knife material. Tempered and sharpened properly it'll not only shave it'll split and dice a hair like a knife through a carrot.
@@ryanmccabe1036 Ryan, if you gettem made and likem, let me know on these comments how they worked out.
I like to tan my own quivers. Reason being is I like them semi stiff. I like flat quivers like yours. The sides of the quiver collapse against the arrows . even if turned upside down they don't easily fall out. Because the quiver is not real soft the points don't push out of the bottom.
Yup i totally agree. thanks for commenting that
Thank you for posting this video. I find all your videos utterly fascinating.
There is such a difference between knowing what materials are used for what in primitive arts--and learning how they are used and what their (sometimes surprising) qualities are.
My first quiver--made when I first started building primitive bows--is of this style (though not nearly as classy), is still a favorite.
I did make leather sheaths for my steel broadheads, (I didn't trust myself to insert the arrows carefully enough). The sheaths automatically come off the points as the arrow is withdrawn and remain in the quiver. Might that not have been done back in the day?
I did a brain tanned coyote much like yours as well as a deer brain tanned. With the deer hide, I used the neck for the bottom keeping it just big enough to keep thi gs from rattling. Gives considerable rigidity even when I do shove arrows in. One thing I I didn't hear you touch base on is the strap length. Really is personal preference, but there are advantages and disadvantages to longer and shorter straps. Next one I make will be more of a horse quiver. I'm trying to remember the gentleman that has done some videos of his findings with traditional mounted archery, but they are well done on purpose of "quiver tails" and length of strap
that's a good point. thanks for the suggestion. I guess the strap length and where it hangs never even crossed my mind
Pure geniuse. I’m gonna modify mine like that. 👍🏽
All this threat of nuclear attack made me move to new zealand and exploring caves and trying to know how to filter water and air and find cave animals and plants for food. Now I'm trying to know to make primitive knives and such. Hopefully I'm just being paranoid. Take care guys.
What's the quiver system like for Atlatl darts?
Do you make & sell commanche quivers?
Do u have a video on how u made these?
👍
how does it stay flat like that? is the skin rawhide so it remains stiff and pinches the arrows? Thanks! Really nice work and video!
it has a stiffening rod along the top of the inside, so it is essentially built in a foldover fashion and the leather hangs over the rod like a blanket hanging over a clothesline, if that makes sense. thanks very much
hey, what do you know about making a bow for mounted archery?
We need a how to video on a quiver with a bobcat (or similar) skin.
That's awesome! You are a animal! I'm gonna subscribe! 😎
Which skin quiver it this
Can you do a bobcat hunt
Love it
I shoot recurve because the bois d arc boys I have made just don’t last very long
I am learning what not to do :-)
Gosto muito dos seus videos😍
I wanna know how to make it so bad
There's a whole other video he has where he goes thru the process of making a basic model quiver. It's a simple build, and definitely doable for any skill level.
@@augustcook5537 thank you, ill look for it
Lots of people use compound bow is a primitive bows as powerful
No, a compound bow will typically be well over twice as fast, much more energy and far more accuracy and a huge increase in effective range. Not to sell primitive equipment short but comparing modern equipment with modern materials, its almost like there is 70,000+ years worth of difference
Brasileiro aaqui #hantprimitive
Even if you’re a terrible shot the only reason you’d want more than six or seven shots is if you’re going to war. I don’t see any modern purpose to carrying a dozen or more shots with you when hunting
One thing you didn’t cover is, what about rain? I use to use this style quiver but my fletching would get wet in the rain and snow. Now I’ve copied the “safari tuff” design, and find it to be the best quiver for me. My feathers stay dry and quiet.
You need a new microphone. I hear a lot of static.
no static. Stop drinking.
That could be the speakers or headphones youre using, I havent heard any through the entire video.
👍