Greetings from a fellow sharpener! Great little system and great job on the demo & results. You may want to look into 1x30 felt belts for final strop. Ive had great results with a quick progression of those down to .1u. Well done sir!
The knife bolster extends past the knife edge. In other words, the bolster is blocking the edge from the thing you want to cut when its on a cutting board. I guess you could grind down the bolster until it is flush with the edge and then refinish it with polishing compound. On another note, this is a very nice device you made. I think it would be a lot cooler is you added the Amish touch and made it to work without electricity. I'm thinking a hand crank or a foot pedal system.
Thank you for adding the 'shave' and 'tomato' and 'the standing paper' tests. I know which video you're referring to, its those guys that sell and sharpen those high end knives in San Diego. (excellent guys BTW). How much practice did it take to get that angle just right? I tip my hat to you for a fine job.
Nice little machine. I'd add a platen to sharpen knives or tools that have flat grinds like the Mora knives which are known for their sharp scandi grinds. Despite my suggestions, and that's all they are, as you made a cool sharpener. What I think people should take from this and other videos is that there are different methods and tools to sharpen blades and we should all be able to find what works for us.
Your voice reminds me of Matthew Broderick with a cold😂 great diy sharpening setup tho, i wonder how it would handle something with a higher rockwell hardness
It's called practice, it's really not that hard once you've done it a few times. Even using stones, you can get a consistent angle with a little practice. Just don't be afraid of messing up the angle the first few times you try it.
Looks like a Henkels 4 star chef knife to me. Maybe 8in variety and $100 at Macy's. These are high carbon stainless steel and have been in production for more than 40 years. I have a large set including 12 steak knives purchased 30 years ago in Germany. I use them all regularly. It is a nice cheap home made sander but it doesn't control angle. But you do get what you pay for. If you bought the knife for 30 cents you did very very well. They didn't know what they were selling.
+Garage Geek, those are 1x30 belts, correct? Where did you get them from? I've had a lot of recommendations to try the Norton Norax belts but I can't seem to find anyone that stocks them in 1x30. While I'm at it I just searched Amazon for "cheap chinese" blue 5u diamond paste and can't find anything that looks like that either. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Hi Mark, Yes I use 1x30 belts. I bought mine from USKnifeMaker. I have tried a variety of belts and the NORAX belts are some of my favorites. You can find the diamond paste by searching for "diamond lapping paste" mine came in a variety pack and the blue was my favorite, you can find it in a single if you search around.
Great video sir! Both in skill, video and speaking. Thats very impressive, and i like your DIY machine was excellent for the job. Ii bought a masahiro knife and a 3000,1000 stone if i can get something similar to your results ill be happy, though i maybe need the paste.
try empire abrasives, Jantz knife making, USAknifemaking, and supergrit, give them a try. also don't buy cheap belts they are not put together properly and as you use it you will get this thump thump thump. from where the glue line is.
Hello mr garage geek Nice "machine" i know you can get it sharp But i wanted to tell you that you can get 1$ knives even sharper !!!! Still good vid i enjoyed it keep it up
Yep, trust a guy from Solingen: This is a J.A. Henckels / Zwilling (twins) chief knife. because of the handle I would say a four star. This is higher class: forged, not punched blade. ice hardened. Really a "better one" about 80 EUR here in Germany. de.zwilling-shop.com/Kuechenkategorie/Messer-Scheren/Obst-und-Gemuesemesser/Kochmesser-VIER-STERNE-ZWILLING-31071-181-0.html. For not hand-made one of the best in price comparable to Wüsthof Classic.
lol he isn't using a WE sharpener , and the edgepro sucks compared to a WE or wicked edge sharpener , the edgepro you only sharpen 1 side at a time then you have to flip it you sharpen both sides at once on a wicked edge sharpener
I keep wondering how microns would translate to grit. That would give us a better perspective. And why am I suddenly craving a bacon tomato mayo sandwich?
I DO appreciate the home engineeriging, but it is easy to sharpen 4116 steel, but it doesn't stay sharp long. It's strength is it's weakness and it's weakness is it's strength. And as noted, that's very good Henckels knife. Making 4116 steel cut paper is easy and doesn't teach anything or prove anything
Good. It would be useful to talk to every action you perform, such as - I flick the rubber-topped switch that interrupts the power line - the tension on the belt comes from the weight of the motor, not the ring screw adjuster, you'll remember that's for getting the tracking of the belt on the drive pulley centred - a paper edge cut is the age-old test of a sharp knife - the direction, push or pull, when grinding doesn't matter - the burr needs to be removed finally by belts of gradual finer ratings - etc. The Feather-Touch test. Nice. (UA-cam doesn't have a playback speed adjuster, or a jump-back or forward keyboard control, does it..?)
I've found that ther's IS a speed adjuster on the Settings cogwheel on the UA-cam screen. And I've discovered that there ARE keystrokes that can control playback. They interfere with Firefox's 'Search as I type' feature, but you can't have everything.
how do you think that knives are sharpened at the factory? Are you suggesting that sharpening by had is not a great way to sharpen? Are you trying to say that only a fixed angle jig is the only way that a knife can be sharpened well? The demonstration shows a very sharp knife so what is it that you are complaining about?
Push cuts are a much better test of your edge than slicing cuts on paper. A dull knife with a wire edge or burr will shave hair, so it doesn't prove much. What do you do in the woods after you are halfway done butchering your elk and your edge is dull, crank up your generator? Learn to freehand sharpen & get rid of the gadgets.
Christopher Backus I was also told that color change is the tell tale sign of accidental annealing. Some artisans actually rely on this color to temper the shop made tools without an oven or kiln.
If the steel gets hot enough to change color, it's more than hot enough to give you a nasty burn. A light straw color will give you a nice edge holding hardness for most steels.
OMG a chiefs knife and you are using a slack belt and have no Idea what angle you are sharping or if it is consistent with either side, let alone one side. This system is good for Walmart special knives, but thank god it is a cheap knife your ruining not a good one. have you ever heard of 14deg bevel on chiefs knives. of course not how would you sharping that way.
* you mean chefs knife. If you watch cliff stamps videos - you know better than to bad mouth freehand sharpening. Just because you and I suck at keeping an angle it does not mean that it is impossible for others. the exact angle is not that important just that it is consistent.
One, at least some one spells their name right. I make knives and many use a paper wheel to put a sharp edge on the knife free hand. But using a slack belt will round your edge not give you a even bevel through out. I'm not bad mouthing free hand bevels there done all the time in knife making just using a slack belt and getting a repeatable angle. angles are important for replicating the bevel for future sharpening. you don't want to recreate a bevel every time you sharpen. anyone can get a sharp knife. I have seen Burrfection put a sharp edge on a expensive (chefs) knife with a brick. so sharpening anything is possible if your technique is good. watch him if you want to see hand sharpening at it's very best. Just to make this more interesting I use a Wick Edge sharpening system to put an edge on my knives and put new edges on new knives. And I know I'll here about how you don't have to spend that kind of money to get an edge on a knife. Well I do that is how bad I am at sharpening and I have bought hundreds of dollars in sharpening systems over the years and now I have one that gets me consistency every time. that's just me.
Maybe he has just perfected how to do a convex bevel, a slight convex should in theory have a bit more strength. No I know what you mean, but Garage Geeks video is not interesting if you goal is to do repeatable, consistent bevels - but it shows that you can put together a reasonable grinding machine with reused parts. I own a scheppach wet-stone grinder similar to tormek, but the setup is a pain and I finally settled for a homemade lansky sharpner jig, napster gear was the one i saw and used as inspiration. sandpaper with a flat surface works great. (not like the wodden one napster gear uses though). Garage Geek could tension the belt, make a flat guard beneath and a propper angle-asist for keeping the angle consistent.
Hunter #1: Yes! You got the deer! Now we can fill the freezer with meat!! Hunter #2: Well, I been thinkin", my knife does not have a 14 degree bevel on it, ..sigh...we are gonna have to leave the deer. Hunter #1: But, but, you can shave with that damn knife! Hunter#2: True, but without a 14 degree bevel I just don't feel right about butchering it, let's go. Cheap knife? Did you not read the comments? Dude, go play with your rubber knife.
Paper is the worst thing you can use on a knife blade. I don't think you're very smart you need to find something better than they use paper on a quality night
Greetings from a fellow sharpener! Great little system and great job on the demo & results. You may want to look into 1x30 felt belts for final strop. Ive had great results with a quick progression of those down to .1u. Well done sir!
The knife bolster extends past the knife edge. In other words, the bolster is blocking the edge from the thing you want to cut when its on a cutting board. I guess you could grind down the bolster until it is flush with the edge and then refinish it with polishing compound. On another note, this is a very nice device you made. I think it would be a lot cooler is you added the Amish touch and made it to work without electricity. I'm thinking a hand crank or a foot pedal system.
Nice job. Love that machine!
Nice job! Would love to see a build demonstration on your belt sander!!
...never mind, I just found it. THANK YOU!!!
Very nice sharpening system: how many rpm has the motor? could you tell us what sizes are the belts and where can we buy them. Thx
Awesome video. Nice work
Nice job!
Thank you for adding the 'shave' and 'tomato' and 'the standing paper' tests. I know which video you're referring to, its those guys that sell and sharpen those high end knives in San Diego. (excellent guys BTW). How much practice did it take to get that angle just right? I tip my hat to you for a fine job.
Nice little machine. I'd add a platen to sharpen knives or tools that have flat grinds like the Mora knives which are known for their sharp scandi grinds. Despite my suggestions, and that's all they are, as you made a cool sharpener. What I think people should take from this and other videos is that there are different methods and tools to sharpen blades and we should all be able to find what works for us.
Address and postcode for this Thrift Store, pls. lol
Great video.
Thanks for uploading.
how do you keep a constant angel? do u have problems with heating up tbe blade?
Hello nice job wondering where you got the machine you have very nice...
Nice machine!
Where can I buy those belts?
Awesome sharpener how can I make one?
Your voice reminds me of Matthew Broderick with a cold😂 great diy sharpening setup tho, i wonder how it would handle something with a higher rockwell hardness
Asmr at its finest
Home Depot has a lot of good stuff like that just gotta poke around!
This looks like something that would work,
Are you going to show us how ur machine was made? I wana mke one. Pls
Thats sharp!
Amazing how you can keep a consistent angle by hand
Yes I wonder how he is so exact..
It's called practice, it's really not that hard once you've done it a few times. Even using stones, you can get a consistent angle with a little practice. Just don't be afraid of messing up the angle the first few times you try it.
That's skill right there.
The tomato test kills me, damn that's good!
I have tried open hand sharpening several times. If you make one bad pass you might as well start over. I need a jig to keep the angle for me.
Just a thought. I would wipe the grit off of the blade to avoid contaminating the finer belts
Front doors
All these years I have gotten razor sharp knives free hand. I feel guilty I did not buy or build a super machine to do it.
where can i buy that belt sharpener???
Looks like a Henkels 4 star chef knife to me. Maybe 8in variety and $100 at Macy's. These are high carbon stainless steel and have been in production for more than 40 years. I have a large set including 12 steak knives purchased 30 years ago in Germany. I use them all regularly. It is a nice cheap home made sander but it doesn't control angle. But you do get what you pay for. If you bought the knife for 30 cents you did very very well. They didn't know what they were selling.
Can you share the design and all so i can build it to?
nice
+Garage Geek, those are 1x30 belts, correct? Where did you get them from? I've had a lot of recommendations to try the Norton Norax belts but I can't seem to find anyone that stocks them in 1x30.
While I'm at it I just searched Amazon for "cheap chinese" blue 5u diamond paste and can't find anything that looks like that either.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Hi Mark, Yes I use 1x30 belts. I bought mine from USKnifeMaker. I have tried a variety of belts and the NORAX belts are some of my favorites. You can find the diamond paste by searching for "diamond lapping paste" mine came in a variety pack and the blue was my favorite, you can find it in a single if you search around.
Great video sir! Both in skill, video and speaking. Thats very impressive, and i like your DIY machine was excellent for the job. Ii bought a masahiro knife and a 3000,1000 stone if i can get something similar to your results ill be happy, though i maybe need the paste.
try empire abrasives, Jantz knife making, USAknifemaking, and supergrit, give them a try. also don't buy cheap belts they are not put together properly and as you use it you will get this thump thump thump. from where the glue line is.
Hello mr garage geek
Nice "machine" i know you can get it sharp
But i wanted to tell you that you can get 1$ knives even sharper !!!!
Still good vid i enjoyed it keep it up
This is not a cheap knife, is a Zwilling. German high quality knife!
Good eye Sir.. ;)
13:51 Zwilling friodur.. Mercedes benz in knife world..
Yep, trust a guy from Solingen: This is a J.A. Henckels / Zwilling (twins) chief knife. because of the handle I would say a four star. This is higher class: forged, not punched blade. ice hardened. Really a "better one" about 80 EUR here in Germany. de.zwilling-shop.com/Kuechenkategorie/Messer-Scheren/Obst-und-Gemuesemesser/Kochmesser-VIER-STERNE-ZWILLING-31071-181-0.html. For not hand-made one of the best in price comparable to Wüsthof Classic.
You are absolutely right, Zwilling 4 star. Thanks for the comments, this knife must be one of my best thrift store finds. Cheers!
my first thought too.. my personal 8 inch chefs knife thats gotten me through 9 years of service .. i recently upgraded to a wustoff ikon
Would like to pick up kit and or plan.
Excellent work man. Could you please send me the parts needed to build it or can you build me one and I pay you your fee?
did you make or buy one?
i luv my edgepro. i can do so much more with it over the we
lol he isn't using a WE sharpener , and the edgepro sucks compared to a WE or wicked edge sharpener , the edgepro you only sharpen 1 side at a time then you have to flip it you sharpen both sides at once on a wicked edge sharpener
I keep wondering how microns would translate to grit. That would give us a better perspective.
And why am I suddenly craving a bacon tomato mayo sandwich?
1 micron = 0.001 mm.
1000 grid --> 1000 particles in an inch --> each particle is ~ 0.025 mm = 25 micron.
5 micron = 5000 grid
nice, sell me a sharpener ? haha
God damn, did that thing start off as a chef's knife before you got to work on it??
Not as quick as I thought, But definitely easier than free hand.
Very quiet motor.
I DO appreciate the home engineeriging, but it is easy to sharpen 4116 steel, but it doesn't stay sharp long. It's strength is it's weakness and it's weakness is it's strength.
And as noted, that's very good Henckels knife.
Making 4116 steel cut paper is easy and doesn't teach anything or prove anything
Good. It would be useful to talk to every action you perform, such as - I flick the rubber-topped switch that interrupts the power line - the tension on the belt comes from the weight of the motor, not the ring screw adjuster, you'll remember that's for getting the tracking of the belt on the drive pulley centred - a paper edge cut is the age-old test of a sharp knife - the direction, push or pull, when grinding doesn't matter - the burr needs to be removed finally by belts of gradual finer ratings - etc.
The Feather-Touch test. Nice.
(UA-cam doesn't have a playback speed adjuster, or a jump-back or forward keyboard control, does it..?)
Three dots on the top right for mobile
I've found that ther's IS a speed adjuster on the Settings cogwheel on the UA-cam screen. And I've discovered that there ARE keystrokes that can control playback. They interfere with Firefox's 'Search as I type' feature, but you can't have everything.
A lot of work to cut paper and shave hair . I can do the same thing with a cheap pair of scissors and razor
pretty sure that a henckles 4 star, not really a cheap knife
Hmmm... maybe add some water? Anyway this is not a cheap knife
🇧🇷😳👍
one of my many wives
That's why pronunciation and apostrophes are important.
'One of my wife's kitchen knives.'
How can you possible maintain the angle across the blade? Sorry this is not a great DIY sharpener.
how do you think that knives are sharpened at the factory? Are you suggesting that sharpening by had is not a great way to sharpen? Are you trying to say that only a fixed angle jig is the only way that a knife can be sharpened well? The demonstration shows a very sharp knife so what is it that you are complaining about?
It requires a minor amount of skill to learn to maintain the angle
Schrade is your idea of a good knife? You really embarrassed yourself, pull your pants up & go home.
Once you have done this for a while you know the angle by heart.
Cutting paper actually will dull an edge.........fwiw..............Z
You should not youse a belt grinder on a knife because it takes off to much material you should youse it for make a bevel
daedupon 7867 sure works great for him.. he did amazing
Miguel Vasquez you know what works better whetstones
Shmuel Shvarts that's why si so slow, that's how worksharps work, I only use whetstones as you seem to do, bit this si not a belt grinder
This guy is using a roller skating wheel on his sharpening tool
Push cuts are a much better test of your edge than slicing cuts on paper. A dull knife with a wire edge or burr will shave hair, so it doesn't prove much. What do you do in the woods after you are halfway done butchering your elk and your edge is dull, crank up your generator? Learn to freehand sharpen & get rid of the gadgets.
not everyone "butchers elk" everyday maybe you do but for the rest of use these types of things are just fine
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't this fuck up the heat treat? The motor looks like its low rpm but still, it doesn't heat up at all?
If you can touch the blade with your bare hands without burning yourself, the knife isn't hot enough to lose its hardness.
Christopher Backus I was also told that color change is the tell tale sign of accidental annealing. Some artisans actually rely on this color to temper the shop made tools without an oven or kiln.
If the steel gets hot enough to change color, it's more than hot enough to give you a nasty burn. A light straw color will give you a nice edge holding hardness for most steels.
would you make one of those machines for me and sell to me?
Bad stropping. Too big angle!
that's a Cuisinart knife. Best knife a Walmart gift card can buy
MAGA sharp! awesome. BUT with a cheap steel knife you won't get a lasting sharp, usable edge. Duh, right?
cheap knife? zwilling... bla bla dislike
OMG a chiefs knife and you are using a slack belt and have no Idea what angle you are sharping or if it is consistent with either side, let alone one side. This system is good for Walmart special knives, but thank god it is a cheap knife your ruining not a good one. have you ever heard of 14deg bevel on chiefs knives. of course not how would you sharping that way.
* you mean chefs knife. If you watch cliff stamps videos - you know better than to bad mouth freehand sharpening. Just because you and I suck at keeping an angle it does not mean that it is impossible for others. the exact angle is not that important just that it is consistent.
One, at least some one spells their name right. I make knives and many use a paper wheel to put a sharp edge on the knife free hand. But using a slack belt will round your edge not give you a even bevel through out. I'm not bad mouthing free hand bevels there done all the time in knife making just using a slack belt and getting a repeatable angle. angles are important for replicating the bevel for future sharpening. you don't want to recreate a bevel every time you sharpen. anyone can get a sharp knife. I have seen Burrfection put a sharp edge on a expensive (chefs) knife with a brick. so sharpening anything is possible if your technique is good. watch him if you want to see hand sharpening at it's very best. Just to make this more interesting I use a Wick Edge sharpening system to put an edge on my knives and put new edges on new knives. And I know I'll here about how you don't have to spend that kind of money to get an edge on a knife. Well I do that is how bad I am at sharpening and I have bought hundreds of dollars in sharpening systems over the years and now I have one that gets me consistency every time. that's just me.
Maybe he has just perfected how to do a convex bevel, a slight convex should in theory have a bit more strength. No I know what you mean, but Garage Geeks video is not interesting if you goal is to do repeatable, consistent bevels - but it shows that you can put together a reasonable grinding machine with reused parts. I own a scheppach wet-stone grinder similar to tormek, but the setup is a pain and I finally settled for a homemade lansky sharpner jig, napster gear was the one i saw and used as inspiration. sandpaper with a flat surface works great. (not like the wodden one napster gear uses though). Garage Geek could tension the belt, make a flat guard beneath and a propper angle-asist for keeping the angle consistent.
Hunter #1: Yes! You got the deer! Now we can fill the freezer with meat!!
Hunter #2: Well, I been thinkin", my knife does not have a 14 degree bevel on it, ..sigh...we are gonna have to leave the deer.
Hunter #1: But, but, you can shave with that damn knife!
Hunter#2: True, but without a 14 degree bevel I just don't feel right about butchering it, let's go.
Cheap knife? Did you not read the comments? Dude, go play with your rubber knife.
So is there ANYTHING new in this video that is NOT in any of hundreds of others.
WHAT A WASTE OF TIME.
Good engineering better than $100 work sharp that laser 1 yr not a wast of time
Paper is the worst thing you can use on a knife blade. I don't think you're very smart you need to find something better than they use paper on a quality night
lol what is the paper going to do to the blade enlighten us