Thank you, Ms. Argerich, for a lifetime of listening pleasure. In particular your interpretation of Chopin. No one has played his work more beautifully, sensitively and proficiently. The 1975 DG album of Preludes moves me to tears every time I hear it.
I really do admire everyone playing this, especially the piano ... I'm one myself (amateur class), but I couldn't even read the score! Took part in this piece on Jan 10th in the Brucknerhaus Linz, Austria as member of the choir (Hard Chor Linz), that was not too difficult. But highest regards for any orchestra and, saying it again, the pianist performingg this outstanding piece of music!
The average IQs are plummeting in a measurable way and I think that 100 years ago a much higher percentage of the population was capable of embracing complexities and subtleties of this kind of music than now.
If a piece after more than 100 years still sounds modern, it must have been ahead of its time. Maybe Promethee would have had a greater impact on evolution of music, had it been more often performed. Btw. The blue-white fis major that Scrabin imagined finally becomes visible.
I was lucky enough to have received the score of Prometheus in New York , however it was in cold war times not allowed. I still have a facsimile of this score in my personal collection. In this piece I found my earlier style of writing which I truly still have even in my most advanced compositions. Just an incredible usage of modal structures with the potential of creating new harmonies. Of course the tritone was at the center of his thinking.
Even pre-Soviet Russian music was not allowed during the cold war? I didn't know that Soviet art was restricted at all during the Cold War. Where can I learn more about this?
I doubt that - sure Soviet orchestras and ballets were touring all over the western world and Shostakovich visited Britten. It’s more likely that there was not much interest in Scriabin so the score wasn’t available. It doesn’t only go for Scriabin, Szymanowski was almost unknown in the West until the 1990s, there are some composers at their level who composed in their times and are still unknown.
Absolutely love the sudden appearance of the glockenspiel (?) at 11:20. Imagine a shower of fairy twinkles suddenly appearing in the middle of some epic scene. :) I like to imagine this is Olaf Stapledon's _Last and First Men_ turned into a musical work.
It can be experienced in Amsterdam, Concertgebouw this week (Jan '20) with the complete light show as intended by the composer, and Andriss Nelsons in front of the Concertgebouw orchestra and Groot Omroep Koor, perhaps the best choir in the Netherlands. I've experienced it last night. Absolutely awesome experience.!
Argerich is an intellectual. YOu have to be in order to play the music she plays and at her level but she always smiles doesn't try to sell this idea of the mind. Hearing her talk about not practicing cales and why you realize what a strong, direct,down to earth person she is. No pretense. I loved watching her talk with Pires.As natural as can be. Remarkably healthy-minded musician . Totally rare in all times. Yet she was noted for her agitation a lot in her 30's and on.How diud Abbado get Matha to do and make a commitment to this . We need 3,4,5 SONATAs from her . She means so much to so many .You'd think this study at this time would have allowed her to program Scriabin .She says she doesn't play certain things well Beeth.No.5 ? I know one of her teachers must have given her some Scriabin and Debussy and one of the Miroirs but will we ever hear in this music ? We are lucky for this .Abbado and the clarity of this Orchestra ! The score itself is amazing to look at !
@@SCRIABINIST Their agitato,nervousness they share. Scriabin s not sane,healthy music but I play him and rarely Rachmaninoff who was certainly more together. Schumann is truly multi-faceted and healthy yet its Schumann who took his life and not morose, class-conscious ,clothes conscious etc. crazy really crazy Chopin! Chopin indeed wasn't even a nice man nor generous and the things he said about other composers amazes me ,seeing that you find feats of imagination and harmony you won't findanywhere else in the 19th century!
She can play any composer always with the right imagination , stylistically superior. she was the most nervosity ever like Horowitz so its comes well with her. Why no 5th sonata or solo music of his in her programmes. Strange. She gives us Bartok sonata and an entire concerto . I'd like to know how this happened. she's been playing Bartok for decades anyway and recorded some . So interesting what how she finally gets this or that out there!
Así que tuvieron que hacer una elección, o aceptaban las espinas de sus compañeros o desaparecían de la Tierra. Con sabiduría, decidieron volver a estar juntos
It’s a symphonic poem. The Pianoforte should be placed within the orchestra and not in front of it as if performing a concerto. In this work the piano is just another orchestral instrument in a concertante role in the orchestra like in Neils Gade symphony No. 5 in D-minor.
Wrong. Anna Gawboy's dissertation made a compelling argument - based on contexts in music history (Wagner), intellectual history (Nietzsche), Scriabin's own belief system of theosophy, as well as the narrative hints from the light show envisioned in the manuscript and the structural hints from the nature of the mystic chord as having a kind of extended subdominant functionality - that Scriabin considered the pianist to be playing the role of sacrificial savior, ie, the figure of Prometheus himself, bringing the flame of mystical knowledge at the cost of personal annihilation. So from that perspective the piano is absolutely not just one instrument among many, and placement in the soloist position on stage is completely appropriate.
Thank you, Ms. Argerich, for a lifetime of listening pleasure. In particular your interpretation of Chopin. No one has played his work more beautifully, sensitively and proficiently. The 1975 DG album of Preludes moves me to tears every time I hear it.
Amazing piece! I've never listened to much Scriabin. This makes me want to listen to more!
Both the existential pain and passion for life. I am overwhelmed.
Best version of this unbelievable piece. you gotta love the mystic chord, there is literally no dominant!
The work of a genius in its fullest form - music counterpointed with color.
Incroyable composition de génie. J'aime énormément l'interprétation Abbado/ Argerich qui nous livre une vision vraiment hallucinée de l'œuvre.
+calderaro Vanessa Je suis d'accord. J'aime particlièrement l'imagerie que le ton de l'orchestre a donnée.
I really do admire everyone playing this, especially the piano ... I'm one myself (amateur class), but I couldn't even read the score!
Took part in this piece on Jan 10th in the Brucknerhaus Linz, Austria as member of the choir (Hard Chor Linz), that was not too difficult. But highest regards for any orchestra and, saying it again, the pianist performingg this outstanding piece of music!
Have never heard this. Thanks so much for posting!
Martha Argerich’s creative playfulness works really well with Scriabin’s free sounding music (imo)
Way ahead of his time. I believe 100 years from now this masterpiece will be as well known as Beethoven's 5th.
Impossibile future
The average IQs are plummeting in a measurable way and I think that 100 years ago a much higher percentage of the population was capable of embracing complexities and subtleties of this kind of music than now.
As always, awesome and creative, because it is Martha Argerich =)
Lindo concierto, como de otro mundo. Gracias, Martha.
Magnificent...such incredible artistic vision!
Was it shooted at Philarmonica in Berlin in may 1992? I was there! Amazing experience!
If a piece after more than 100 years still sounds modern, it must have been ahead of its time. Maybe Promethee would have had a greater impact on evolution of music, had it been more often performed. Btw. The blue-white fis major that Scrabin imagined finally becomes visible.
Lovely performance! Somehow, because it's Martha Argerich, I listened more closely to the piano.:-)
I was lucky enough to have received the score of Prometheus in New York , however it was in cold war times not allowed. I still have a facsimile of this score in my personal collection. In this piece I found my earlier style of writing which I truly still have even in my most advanced compositions. Just an incredible usage of modal structures with the potential of creating new harmonies. Of course the tritone was at the center of his thinking.
Even pre-Soviet Russian music was not allowed during the cold war? I didn't know that Soviet art was restricted at all during the Cold War. Where can I learn more about this?
I doubt that - sure Soviet orchestras and ballets were touring all over the western world and Shostakovich visited Britten. It’s more likely that there was not much interest in Scriabin so the score wasn’t available. It doesn’t only go for Scriabin, Szymanowski was almost unknown in the West until the 1990s, there are some composers at their level who composed in their times and are still unknown.
phenomenal.
Absolutely love the sudden appearance of the glockenspiel (?) at 11:20. Imagine a shower of fairy twinkles suddenly appearing in the middle of some epic scene. :)
I like to imagine this is Olaf Stapledon's _Last and First Men_ turned into a musical work.
I listened the universe.
Scriabin was either insane or a musical/theosophical genius--perhaps a bit of both...
He literally did go insane though... the Syphilis got to him at the end of his life
It is not true. Where did you get that insane idea about syphilis? Disgusting, those "experts" like you.
he was an insane genius.
I’d say he was both, but he was definitely insane, didn’t he want to summon the end of the world by performing his mystesterium in the mountains?
This video is very creative and interesting !
It can be experienced in Amsterdam, Concertgebouw this week (Jan '20) with the complete light show as intended by the composer, and Andriss Nelsons in front of the Concertgebouw orchestra and Groot Omroep Koor, perhaps the best choir in the Netherlands. I've experienced it last night. Absolutely awesome experience.!
Argerich is an intellectual. YOu have to be in order to play the music she plays and at her level but she always smiles doesn't try to sell this idea of the mind. Hearing her talk about not practicing cales and why you realize what a strong, direct,down to earth person she is. No pretense. I loved watching her talk with Pires.As natural as can be. Remarkably healthy-minded musician . Totally rare in all times. Yet she was noted for her agitation a lot in her 30's and on.How diud Abbado get Matha to do and make a commitment to this . We need 3,4,5 SONATAs from her . She means so much to so many .You'd think this study at this time would have allowed her to program Scriabin .She says she doesn't play certain things well Beeth.No.5 ? I know one of her teachers must have given her some Scriabin and Debussy and one of the Miroirs but will we ever hear in this music ? We are lucky for this .Abbado and the clarity of this Orchestra ! The score itself is amazing to look at !
Indeed. Although I don't know if Martha likes Scriabin that much
@@SCRIABINIST Their agitato,nervousness they share. Scriabin s not sane,healthy music but I play him and rarely Rachmaninoff who was certainly more together. Schumann is truly multi-faceted and healthy yet its Schumann who took his life and not morose, class-conscious ,clothes conscious etc. crazy really crazy Chopin! Chopin indeed wasn't even a nice man nor generous and the things he said about other composers amazes me ,seeing that you find feats of imagination and harmony you won't findanywhere else in the 19th century!
She can play any composer always with the right imagination , stylistically superior. she was the most nervosity ever like Horowitz so its comes well with her. Why no 5th sonata or solo music of his in her programmes. Strange. She gives us Bartok sonata and an entire concerto . I'd like to know how this happened. she's been playing Bartok for decades anyway and recorded some . So interesting what how she finally gets this or that out there!
John e martin III Perhaps she prefers Bartok to Scriabin. It can be that simple.
The 5th Sonata was on her program in one of the recitals back in the 70s, but it wasn't recorded so it's consider lost.
Epic😍
If this were rock music, ahead of its time, it would be called Quadrophenia.... 1973, and sounds like it was composed yesterday. just an analogy
Quelle tension !
Les harmonies de Scriabine n’appartiennent qu’à lui !!
Jouer cela sans partition ,quelle mémoire faut il avoir !!!!
Scriabin be like I could be red or I could be yellow
Never listened to this before, but it gave me a Fantasia impression. Has Disney ever made it into one of their animations?
No, sadly...
It has similarities to the Rite of Spring that was in Fantasia, so maybe thar's why.
Are there any DVD recording of this concert?
Así que tuvieron que hacer una elección, o aceptaban las espinas de sus compañeros o desaparecían de la Tierra. Con sabiduría, decidieron volver a estar juntos
bas perfecto
Interesting to hear Martha perform Scriabin. Wish she would perform more Scriabin. Alas, not to be
bravO
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It’s a symphonic poem. The Pianoforte should be placed within the orchestra and not in front of it as if performing a concerto. In this work the piano is just another orchestral instrument in a concertante role in the orchestra like in Neils Gade symphony No. 5 in D-minor.
It is somewhat considered a piano concerto in the world where Scriabin never wrote a piano concerto in his distinguished style
The lyricism of the piano lines imply that it's rather a piano concerto. It would be opaqued and left behind if it wasn't in the front.
Wrong. Anna Gawboy's dissertation made a compelling argument - based on contexts in music history (Wagner), intellectual history (Nietzsche), Scriabin's own belief system of theosophy, as well as the narrative hints from the light show envisioned in the manuscript and the structural hints from the nature of the mystic chord as having a kind of extended subdominant functionality - that Scriabin considered the pianist to be playing the role of sacrificial savior, ie, the figure of Prometheus himself, bringing the flame of mystical knowledge at the cost of personal annihilation. So from that perspective the piano is absolutely not just one instrument among many, and placement in the soloist position on stage is completely appropriate.
@@maxsilva11Love this! Thanks
did they miss even one note?
Is it just me or is this recording too fast?