Great video! It is really cool see more people talking about that. We are using this concept for the last 4 years now, and I must say: It is a water divider. Most operators really like the concept and are open to learn more about it, but always there are that guys that really like the green/red electry pattern.
Don't get me wrong, I do like colorful graphics, but the gray scale is awesome, very neat and clean looking. Would make development so much easier too, we need to push this more on to customers and it will grow on them. In time this will become the norm and then looking back the colorful stuff will look like a child's coloring book.
Hi from Russia! Thanks for your videos. I like to make HMI, but it didn't know about ISA standart for it. It hard to find in Internet for me. But always I remember about usability for operators at factory. Always I use layers. For me it necessary for productivity.
Two things I would add. These days, your graphics need to accommodate a wire variety of operators. This includes colorblind operators and even in some instances, less than literate completely operators. The use of color, motion and text is needed to cover all of them. This doesn’t mean it has to be gaudy or cluttered. The operator should be able to see from across the room if he has problems brewing. The grayscale screen actually helps here. Also most operators I’ve worked with appreciate an "interlock" screen. Why didn’t the pump start? Look up the pump’s interlock screen and see. Maybe a switch is in the wrong position or maybe an alarm on the other side of the plant is preventing it. It’s bad if an operator has to call in a technician to tell him to put a switch in "auto" or a fault in some piece of equipment seemingly unrelated or only tangentially related system is holding out an interlock that the operator wasn’t aware existed. I’ve had instances where 20 or more interlocks had to be satisfied for some piece of equipment to start. It’s nice when operators or techs can quickly check to see which ones are holding it out.
Great video guys! Looking forward for the next one. I will check the link and books definitely! I have been struggling on finding a proper colour combination between the different parts. Fun fact, on board vessels (tankers, bulk carriers, etc) they need BIG font! Really big! Some engineers (older ones) they even use their flash light to watch if the background is black!! 😂
Awesome lecture as always. I highly suggest to move the logo away from the presented material since it’s partially blocking it. I’ve seen this on almost all the videos. Thanks
Welcome to the club, i had to spend nearly a year in 2018 upgrading thousands of views from a customer because GE had no migrating tools compatible...i went crazy with the design the customers wanted...
My roll is maintenance engineer on a pulp plant. I have been trying for years, a step at a time, first plane graphs, without 3D effects, gray background, standarized indications, small trends on tanks and some variables, etc. The last will be the green and red for motors, valves, etc.
It''s actually insane how long these red/green thing has been around. Yet, I don't remember high percentage it was, but there's pretty much granted to be red/green colorblind people in any site that has even moderate amount of staff. It's really easy thing to dismiss, until someone actually comes to you and ask that "what color is this supposed to be" question. Has happened to me.
Red for no power going to input on the plc Orange for ready to run Blinking red for fault Blinking orange for an overload trip Green for running good, as a maintenance electrician having those colors makes my troubleshooting so so so much easier
Thank you very much for this video. Due to you, I got to know about ISA 101 and a brilliant book about HMI. This is the biggest discovery in my area of expertise in recent times. Can I use your translated video with a link to your original material for my students? I'm a teacher in a state university and an automation engineer.
Thanks for your comment, and great to hear that our video courses have been useful. You can share our video as long as it remains unmodified, tagged and credited back to us. But any modification or translation is not allowed. You can email us an SRL document with the translated subtitles, and we will happily add those to the specific video course. Thanks for your understanding! :)
@@realpars thank you! I will probably play them this video with automatic subtitles and at the same time tell them that there are so clever and awesome guys RealPars. Is it allowed?
Hi there, Thank you for your question! There are a few HMI software packages out in the market you can choose from. The one shown is from Siemens WinCC base HMI. This software is also part of the Siemens control software package PCS 7. We have more on this in our course library at www.realpars.com, feel free to check that out. Happy learning!
Unfortunately, many clients still love the full-color HMI rather than High Performance HMI. We, as an Engineer, should give them an understanding about the advantages of using High Performance HMI.
Hi Andreia, Thanks for your comment! My apologies for the confusion. This is a new video, uploaded this week - therefore, we do not have a part two, yet. Hopefully, soon!
Thanks for your comment, Taavi! This might be a great topic suggestion for future video courses. I will happily go ahead and forward this to our course developers. Thanks for sharing and happy learning!
Dunno about you, but I'm in this industry to earn a living. That means I sell the product the customer is buying. And if they're shopping for greyscale, fine. But they're usually not.
That’s not being a strategic partner with your customers. I always appreciate my vendors bringing a different and probably better design or concept forward. If not, then they’re just labor and I can find / grow that without a vendor more effectively. I encourage you to have effective engineering conversations with your customers. You’ll develop a solid relationship
Hi there, Thanks for your comment! We currently only provide our course videos in English, you are always able to turn on the English subtitles as that might make it a bit easier for you. Our apologies for any inconvenience! Happy learning!
The power plant I work at has everything displayed with red or green for running or not running. But then again, it's been around a long while before 2015. I guess when we finally get an upgrade it will look much different.
Great video! It is really cool see more people talking about that. We are using this concept for the last 4 years now, and I must say: It is a water divider. Most operators really like the concept and are open to learn more about it, but always there are that guys that really like the green/red electry pattern.
Don't get me wrong, I do like colorful graphics, but the gray scale is awesome, very neat and clean looking. Would make development so much easier too, we need to push this more on to customers and it will grow on them. In time this will become the norm and then looking back the colorful stuff will look like a child's coloring book.
Thanks for your feedback! I will pass this on to our course developers.
Thanks for sharing and happy learning!
Hi from Russia! Thanks for your videos. I like to make HMI, but it didn't know about ISA standart for it. It hard to find in Internet for me. But always I remember about usability for operators at factory. Always I use layers. For me it necessary for productivity.
Two things I would add. These days, your graphics need to accommodate a wire variety of operators. This includes colorblind operators and even in some instances, less than literate completely operators. The use of color, motion and text is needed to cover all of them. This doesn’t mean it has to be gaudy or cluttered. The operator should be able to see from across the room if he has problems brewing. The grayscale screen actually helps here.
Also most operators I’ve worked with appreciate an "interlock" screen. Why didn’t the pump start? Look up the pump’s interlock screen and see. Maybe a switch is in the wrong position or maybe an alarm on the other side of the plant is preventing it. It’s bad if an operator has to call in a technician to tell him to put a switch in "auto" or a fault in some piece of equipment seemingly unrelated or only tangentially related system is holding out an interlock that the operator wasn’t aware existed. I’ve had instances where 20 or more interlocks had to be satisfied for some piece of equipment to start. It’s nice when operators or techs can quickly check to see which ones are holding it out.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experiences! We always appreciate that.
Very informative video. I would love to see more videos on this topic. Make a playlist like the SQL playlist you have.
Thanks for your topic suggestion, I will happily pass it on to our team!
you are fantastic¡¡¡ this is my favorite youtube channel...
Glad you enjoy it!
Great video guys! Looking forward for the next one. I will check the link and books definitely!
I have been struggling on finding a proper colour combination between the different parts.
Fun fact, on board vessels (tankers, bulk carriers, etc) they need BIG font! Really big!
Some engineers (older ones) they even use their flash light to watch if the background is black!! 😂
Am i the only one who thinking some "Poorly HMIs" that Realpars showed is quite perfect
That's what I was eager looking for. Even if my boss and customers want bright colored blanket, this is the orientir. Thanks!
A really good video. Actually very short but the reference for this book was nice.
Do you recommend something about PLC, specially ladder/blocks?
@@wagnermlopesj Maybe this will be useful with blocks, but it's only in Russian... ua-cam.com/channels/xT0ngJYg3YvQzVy_zElTrw.html
Well explained, Thank you very much!
Thanks for sharing your feedback, Sintayehu!
Realpars is simply the best!
No pierdo la esperanza de que estos videos sean totalmente en español! es cuestión de tiempo
Pues es una magnífica oportunidad para ir aprehendiendo inglés, que no te vendrá mal
@@P.J16 lo se, no es para mi, yo les entiendo a la perfección. es para compartir con técnicos aquí donde trabajo
Awesome lecture as always. I highly suggest to move the logo away from the presented material since it’s partially blocking it. I’ve seen this on almost all the videos. Thanks
Thanks for your feedback, Azzam! We truly appreciate that. I will make sure to pass this on to our team.
Last time I tried to build a gray scale HMI, I got my ass chewed (boss & client). people love the red/green blinking bull.
Welcome to the club, i had to spend nearly a year in 2018 upgrading thousands of views from a customer because GE had no migrating tools compatible...i went crazy with the design the customers wanted...
My roll is maintenance engineer on a pulp plant. I have been trying for years, a step at a time, first plane graphs, without 3D effects, gray background, standarized indications, small trends on tanks and some variables, etc. The last will be the green and red for motors, valves, etc.
Been there, done that. In one case, the engineer flipped his nut. The head operator backed me up.
It''s actually insane how long these red/green thing has been around. Yet, I don't remember high percentage it was, but there's pretty much granted to be red/green colorblind people in any site that has even moderate amount of staff. It's really easy thing to dismiss, until someone actually comes to you and ask that "what color is this supposed to be" question. Has happened to me.
Red for no power going to input on the plc
Orange for ready to run
Blinking red for fault
Blinking orange for an overload trip
Green for running good, as a maintenance electrician having those colors makes my troubleshooting so so so much easier
Its very useful and productive👍....
Great to hear that, Omkar! Happy learning.
Thankyou so much sir
You're very welcome!
Thank you very much for this video. Due to you, I got to know about ISA 101 and a brilliant book about HMI. This is the biggest discovery in my area of expertise in recent times. Can I use your translated video with a link to your original material for my students? I'm a teacher in a state university and an automation engineer.
Thanks for your comment, and great to hear that our video courses have been useful. You can share our video as long as it remains unmodified, tagged and credited back to us. But any modification or translation is not allowed.
You can email us an SRL document with the translated subtitles, and we will happily add those to the specific video course.
Thanks for your understanding! :)
@@realpars thank you! I will probably play them this video with automatic subtitles and at the same time tell them that there are so clever and awesome guys RealPars. Is it allowed?
great work
Thank you, Kevin! Happy learning
Great, as usual
Thanks a lot, Pedro!
What software did you use to make this high performance hmi design? where can i get the course?
Hi there,
Thank you for your question! There are a few HMI software packages out in the market you can choose from. The one shown is from Siemens WinCC base HMI. This software is also part of the Siemens control software package PCS 7. We have more on this in our course library at www.realpars.com, feel free to check that out.
Happy learning!
Unfortunately, many clients still love the full-color HMI rather than High Performance HMI.
We, as an Engineer, should give them an understanding about the advantages of using High Performance HMI.
Great video! i learned a lot!
That's good to hear, keep up the learning curve!
Hi thanks for the video, but I can't found the part2 video, where's the link, please?
Hi Andreia,
Thanks for your comment!
My apologies for the confusion. This is a new video, uploaded this week - therefore, we do not have a part two, yet.
Hopefully, soon!
Thank you
Best channel
Thanks a lot!
Nice video
Thank you so match
You're more than welcome!
How on earth do I create the bar chart like that with a Siemens HMI? The built in Bar is very limited.
Thanks for your comment, Taavi!
This might be a great topic suggestion for future video courses. I will happily go ahead and forward this to our course developers.
Thanks for sharing and happy learning!
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The problem is the customer wants a colorful good looking HMI.
Dunno about you, but I'm in this industry to earn a living. That means I sell the product the customer is buying. And if they're shopping for greyscale, fine. But they're usually not.
That’s not being a strategic partner with your customers. I always appreciate my vendors bringing a different and probably better design or concept forward. If not, then they’re just labor and I can find / grow that without a vendor more effectively. I encourage you to have effective engineering conversations with your customers. You’ll develop a solid relationship
And one question. Could you please add Russian captions?
Hi there,
Thanks for your comment! We currently only provide our course videos in English, you are always able to turn on the English subtitles as that might make it a bit easier for you.
Our apologies for any inconvenience!
Happy learning!
Well, i know a few factories with poorly designed HMI...
The power plant I work at has everything displayed with red or green for running or not running. But then again, it's been around a long while before 2015. I guess when we finally get an upgrade it will look much different.
On my last project is took 3 hours to convince the client you don't need to draw actual pipes (by size and color) in the HMI.
And i know alot😂