SHE Was a HUGE HELP! The Chicken Tractors Are Done!

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  • @Maria-cx3ys
    @Maria-cx3ys 4 роки тому +74

    Dear Sarah and Kevin,
    I have been a silent subscriber for years. I live in Germany and funnily enough, I worked in HR and my husband in IT. I just quit the rat race a few weeks ago to dedicate my time to do our garden and animals. I wish me and my husband would once be such a successful homsteading team such as you guys. I am still working on convincing him. We're currently working on our first chicken house... thank you for sharing and being so inspiring.

    • @LivingTraditionsHomestead
      @LivingTraditionsHomestead  4 роки тому +9

      That is great news! Once he sees all the delicious food coming out of that garden he may change his mind. God Bless you guys,

    • @MrRbrgrn
      @MrRbrgrn 4 роки тому +2

      Awesome!!! I’m not so gutsy as you but I do see an early retirement coming! Best of luck in your new adventure!!!

    • @Maria-cx3ys
      @Maria-cx3ys 4 роки тому +1

      @Michael and Rebecca thank you Rebecca! The right property will come! We're no too far away on the border between saxony and saxony-anhalt.... the Harz is wonderful and we visit often for weekends with the kids.

    • @Maria-cx3ys
      @Maria-cx3ys 4 роки тому

      @@LivingTraditionsHomestead thank you, I do hope so. He is already pretty excited about his future eggs for breakfast!

    • @Maria-cx3ys
      @Maria-cx3ys 4 роки тому

      @@MrRbrgrn you should be, it is an amazing feeling. I wish I had done it earlier

  • @michaelcook768
    @michaelcook768 4 роки тому

    You both make such a good team...and other times you need to work alone. These new tractors should last for many years.

  • @sheryla9246
    @sheryla9246 4 роки тому

    Do you ever do a show on how to kill and clean a chicken. I really enjoy you and your husband you make everything interesting. Breaking things down and make it easier for us to try doing what you do thank you

  • @EvaMahan
    @EvaMahan 4 роки тому +57

    so cute to see Sarah pull out her pocket knife and cut the pine shavings open...my Mom is 87 and still carries a pocket knife in her purse!

    • @junerichmond3620
      @junerichmond3620 4 роки тому +1

      Eva Mahan o

    • @jenniferr2057
      @jenniferr2057 4 роки тому +2

      I was just going to say that. She just casually whips a knife out of her pocket. Lol.

    • @willowsverge3046
      @willowsverge3046 4 роки тому +5

      Thats a good farm girl! My dad gave me a pen knife when i was 7 to cut the binder twine off the hay bales. My pony, my responsibility. Did i get cut? Yep! Learned really fast to pay attention to details after that! Closing it was the stinker at first. Practice makes perfect 😁👍 God bless!

    • @JackieGreen71
      @JackieGreen71 4 роки тому +4

      Every farm girl has a good knife :)

    • @maggiesue4825
      @maggiesue4825 4 роки тому

      Me, too!!

  • @margaretarross1712
    @margaretarross1712 4 роки тому +12

    Great videos as usual. I must comment, based on painful experience, about not putting wire on the "bottom" of your cages. Coons may not be a problem, but if you have "skunks" in your area, it's only a matter of time until one figures it out and digs under to wreak mayhem on your birds. Look at the front paws of a skunk. They are built for deep digging, much like an armadillo. I have them in my area and they present a whole different predator problem than do the raccoons.

  • @lindastrandquist2429
    @lindastrandquist2429 4 роки тому +1

    I ❤BACON TO. Hope the baby chicks arrive safe, sound and healthy.

  • @lindacummings6921
    @lindacummings6921 4 роки тому +6

    One tractor is great...two tractors are terrific!!! A couple of 'roost' poles is each tractor would be nice, so the chickens can get up off the wet ground when you have one of your torrential rainfalls.

    • @judietomasko1323
      @judietomasko1323 4 роки тому +3

      Linda Cummings
      Good idea. I was also wondering about the roosts.

    • @mamiebobb4173
      @mamiebobb4173 4 роки тому +2

      I was thinking the same thing. Maybe just a long, low box along one end to get them out of the mud.

    • @mrs.garcia6978
      @mrs.garcia6978 4 роки тому

      C-monsters literally don’t roost bc their breasts are too large. They are mutant 🐔😄🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @MrTeko75
      @MrTeko75 4 роки тому

      Those tractors had no wheels.

  • @BubbasDad
    @BubbasDad 4 роки тому +1

    Great Video. My son lives in Idaho and told me that he needed to build a chicken tractor, and asked for advise. We both looked a lot on the internet and checked out the designs that were out there. You win! We both found your design independently and both tried to tell each other of the great design at Living Traditions Homestead. Easy to build, light weight, and can be handled by one person.
    We rated your design on a scale of 1 to 10 as an 11. By son has a bad shoulder and will be adding wheels to one end to make it easier for the 9 year old to move it. Great Job!

  • @Manzooryousafzai
    @Manzooryousafzai 3 роки тому

    I proud to have gotten a lot of guidance from you. Thanks for your sagacity.

  • @superDiff123
    @superDiff123 4 роки тому

    If you have a plastic mineral tub that is cracked you can cut a section of it and screw to the front corners of the tractor, with the curve up. It really makes dragging the tractor around easier.

  • @thatonegirl0912
    @thatonegirl0912 4 роки тому +3

    Kevin’s shirts always make my day lol

  • @trockodile
    @trockodile 4 роки тому

    We made smaller chicken runs for our little chicken houses based upon your rabbit tractor design, open at one end to allow access to the house. We wrap the mesh right around the whole thing (less the 'door' end and it adds strength to the whole thing and is speedy as no need to cut it just staple along as you unroll it! We currently have 60+ chicken eggs and 30+ quail eggs in the incubators ready to start this years run of poultry off.
    Another awesome inspirational upload, thank you so much for all you do here on UA-cam from the Highlands of Scotland. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 👍 🐥

  • @bushpushersdaughter
    @bushpushersdaughter 4 роки тому +22

    You two are handier than a pocket on a shirt! Thank you for sharing with us.

  • @1212venturesome
    @1212venturesome 4 роки тому

    thats a great tractor...you and your wife make a great team....keep up the good work kids.....

  • @rachealwood462
    @rachealwood462 4 роки тому +1

    500 thumbs up & NO thumbs down. It shows the quality of videos you guys put out.

  • @gingerreid8569
    @gingerreid8569 4 роки тому

    Sarah is a great help! tractors look great! We used to buy 10 Cornish x, butcher and then get 10 more...this year..we will order 20 and build another chicken tractor for the other 10...20 birds in our freezer is plenty for us...we also have 5 rabbit kits that should be ready for butcher by end of March...we will re-breed and hope for better litters when the weather is warmer...Thanks again for great teaching and showing us how you are doing it!

  • @kathyennis7210
    @kathyennis7210 4 роки тому

    You all are always so precise and knowledgeable about the things you do and raise. I would like to see if you ever make a boo-boo. Some may be humorous and some may not be, but it would be interesting to see how you handle your mistakes, if you make any.

  • @betpatpatten3840
    @betpatpatten3840 4 роки тому

    How about a built-in pool/board to hold the lid up when you need it? It could be put at one end or fastened to that metal crossbar so that when you lifted the lid you could pull up on it and prop the lid so it doesn’t fall on your head. A built-in is better than trying to remember every time you go out there to take a stick.

  • @theresaobrien6730
    @theresaobrien6730 4 роки тому

    If you hang mothballs around you tractors that will keep the raccoons from sniffing around, I put a handful in old pantie hose and hang on the corners and replace as needed..it really works😊

  • @ericc9580
    @ericc9580 3 роки тому

    Kevin. Ad 2-14inch 30lb hydraulic lifts to the tractor. It holds the lid open with no problem. I cannot send you pics, but we built it exactly like yours but with built-in heater for the cold nights in the mountains of Utah.

  • @graniteridgegreens6278
    @graniteridgegreens6278 4 роки тому

    Way To Go Guys, Reuse is always better than recycle! Cheers

  • @mariodelarosa5722
    @mariodelarosa5722 Рік тому

    Loved the chicken tractor. Nice and clean. Great job! I think I'll make one like it with 2 doors on top instead of 1. We have some chickens that are more prone to fly out. Thanks guys for everything you do from down in Texas.

  • @decrepitmouse703
    @decrepitmouse703 4 роки тому

    We have had chickens for over ten to fifteen years. The last ones had a huge raccoon set outside the door while two young ones slipped though a tiny opening in the door and went for the layers. Fortnightly only two died before they were caught. Be assured thing were definitely fixed and upgraded.

  • @funnyfarmdad9997
    @funnyfarmdad9997 4 роки тому +1

    Great series! I just watched both videos again for probably the sixth time. This time I was ready with the pause button and I had my graph paper, pencil and ruler ready to draw plans for one of these tractors. I’ll start building it tomorrow.

  • @markandrzejak997
    @markandrzejak997 3 роки тому +2

    That's so awesome to watch you both work as a team doing stuff on your homestead

  • @nancylitton390
    @nancylitton390 4 роки тому

    I think those chicken tractors are great! Thanks for good idea on how to make them.
    Thank you for sharing and God bless.

  • @petenelson8136
    @petenelson8136 3 роки тому

    If you find you have a predator problem, just put some of that wire mesh on the outside and let it flop down on the ground. When you move the tractor, fold the sides up (the mesh will need to be connected to the sides), move the tractor and put the mesh back down around the tractor. If a predator tries to dig under the tractor, they'll be standing on the mesh and holding it down when they dig = trying to dig through the mesh which would be impossible for them.

  • @cindyskillman544
    @cindyskillman544 4 роки тому

    Very nice! Consider a piece of 2x2 that pivots on a screw, inside, to prop up the lid while you're putting in water & food.

  • @spfb
    @spfb 4 роки тому +9

    Great job on both of your parts on building the new chicken coops. I still say I love how you both work together to accomplish the task that is at hand. Can't wait to see them both filled with birds!!! Great video.

  • @jeffr2855
    @jeffr2855 4 роки тому +1

    I see I'm not the only one to like the fact that Sarah whips out her pocket knife. Gotta love that. Question though, how do you move the tractors with the chicks in them with no floor?

  • @jeaniewelch9198
    @jeaniewelch9198 Рік тому

    EXCELLENT decision on using hardware cloth!!

  • @stevengreer3339
    @stevengreer3339 3 роки тому

    Looks sturdy enough to keep the chicken safe yet light enough to move easily. A nice build .

  • @tonyarueff3230
    @tonyarueff3230 4 роки тому +1

    I am so glad I found your videos! We have had a small flock of layers in thr past a d have some cornish cross birds coming. This tractor is exactly what I've been looking to build for the birds.

    • @heatherk8931
      @heatherk8931 2 роки тому

      Do you put your layers in these, I'm trying to have a lightweight mobile place for new hens (3-4)
      Thanks

  • @TheEarthCreature
    @TheEarthCreature Рік тому

    I personally have a regular light for my chicks that is on a day night cycle and then i have the colorless/black ceramic heaters that give off no visible light going on constantly. No need to switch things off just to check to make sure theyre running and the timer is functioning properly that way.

  • @OldReddingFarm
    @OldReddingFarm 4 роки тому

    Oh I love those chicken tractors !!

  • @kathyvan9112
    @kathyvan9112 4 роки тому

    You guys rock! Real women carry knives.

  • @jackiehorsley9263
    @jackiehorsley9263 4 роки тому

    I think your chicken trackers are awesome looking I think your chicken's well be very pleased I look forward to seeing them when they arrive

  • @rmartinie
    @rmartinie 2 роки тому

    Wonderful video Josh!! 👍🏻
    I’d never seen an A frame version, but I’m really liking it!
    Thanks SO MUCH for sharing your knowledge!!! 😊

  • @spongeyastronaut
    @spongeyastronaut 4 роки тому +9

    I love that you both sound like the coolest news hosts. Like Farmstead Weekly News. So happy to have found you guys!

  • @anniegaddis5240
    @anniegaddis5240 4 роки тому +1

    Sharing! (had a hard time FINDING part 2)

  • @ForgottenHillbilly
    @ForgottenHillbilly 4 роки тому

    Just a tip from an old carpenter you may know and may not but if you ever have a lot of tin to cut and get tired of snips there is something you can do. If you have an old skill saw blade that is just about worn out and seen better days you can put it on the saw backwards from what you are supposed to and it works very well. Just be sure and use your safety glasses and watch out around hay and straw. Enjoying your videos so thanks and best regards!

  • @annelefevre9457
    @annelefevre9457 4 роки тому

    You folks are a great team! I wish all marriages were as good example to the world as yours. Best wishes as you raise another group of baby chicks.

  • @gimlifairfeather1752
    @gimlifairfeather1752 4 роки тому

    My chicken tractor is the same design but a bit larger. I started with a top like yours but quickly found out that my Cornish crosses do experience a burst of energy at feeding time and would often even surprise them selves by flying up and over. I had to cut down the top’s opening to 1/3 of its original size to minimize the pandemonium of 25 energized birds trying to make their great escape CHICKEN RUN style.

  • @Khuhugsawisan
    @Khuhugsawisan 3 роки тому

    Thank you very much for sharing. I really like your thoughts. Follow the results.

  • @rodneywelch3556
    @rodneywelch3556 4 роки тому

    Haven’t thought of a hot water heater pan under the water. Great idea! For saw dust, we have a sawmill near us that is inexpensive. $2.50 to fill a big garbage can. $25.00 to fill the bed of a full size pick-up! Thank you for all your information from Maine.

  • @hummingwind8869
    @hummingwind8869 4 роки тому +15

    Kevin, you're a lefty woohoo! We lefties rock! ✊

    • @pcdreams1
      @pcdreams1 4 роки тому +1

      I never noticed that. Just another reason to like Him!! I'm a lefty too and our sense of humor is similar

  • @semco72057
    @semco72057 4 роки тому

    You will need to have the ground covered good inside the area where the chicks will be so they don't get too cold before it get warm. That way you won't lose any and they are nice and comfortable. That was one thing I worried about when raising chickens and they was protected good where it wasn't cold where they was going to be.

  • @villagesteader3552
    @villagesteader3552 4 роки тому +20

    “I’m not a chicken scientist “...no, but you are a chicken mathematician!🤓
    Both of you are AMAZING!♥️

  • @ldg2655
    @ldg2655 4 роки тому +10

    I love the design of that chicken tractor.. watching ya’ll build that, I was mentally building mine.

  • @susanmay9072
    @susanmay9072 3 роки тому

    Thanks for your videos on the chicken tractor. You have inspired us to start raising our own broilers for our freezer. We built our chicken tractor using your plans and it turned out great.

  • @karoleigharmstrong8568
    @karoleigharmstrong8568 4 роки тому

    I got a very nice pocket knife, from my son, this past Christmas. Every women should have one, sooooo useful, everyday.

  • @janetwithers7427
    @janetwithers7427 4 роки тому

    Very nice chicken tractors. Good job!💖🐔

  • @chrisblock3505
    @chrisblock3505 4 роки тому

    You guys have so much food and vegetables, and are still a healthy wait. Of course work to, but people! Pay attention! Stay active, eat healthy! Period!!!!!

  • @rockydelnegro550
    @rockydelnegro550 4 роки тому

    Kevin , I watched the 2 videos . Very good project !! Excellent job. Thank you so much !

  • @pminer4044
    @pminer4044 4 роки тому

    Wrap one long piece around the three sides , bend around corners , eliminate some of the nasty points on the hardware cloth

  • @maryjones4791
    @maryjones4791 4 роки тому

    We put clean construction sand inside our coop ,we use to use shaving but sand dries out much quicker doesn’t hold moisture.
    The peeps love scratching in the sand and dusting !

  • @Aubrey.strawbrey444
    @Aubrey.strawbrey444 4 роки тому +1

    That turned out nice .

  • @georgeb9651
    @georgeb9651 2 роки тому

    Loved it even the ridge was a great idea. The only thing I will change for me is the size. I am widowed and will be raising only about q2 to 16 birds for me and to give to hungry friends. Love your channel.

  • @tedunning6694
    @tedunning6694 4 роки тому

    I am really surprised that you haven’t cleaned the waterers and feeders before the new chicks arrive. It just seems to me that disease is spread so easily amongst the young. Best of luck in 2020 with all of your endeavours. I love your videos and watch daily.

  • @wallstreethomestead5979
    @wallstreethomestead5979 4 роки тому

    Awesome builds of chicken tractors

  • @calicokid7501
    @calicokid7501 4 роки тому +1

    That brooder setup is awesome. Simplistic and effective. Leave it for a year, come on in, set it up and rock n roll.

  • @kelliethommes164
    @kelliethommes164 3 роки тому

    Put a couple of 8 inch wheels on one end to make it easier to move.

  • @deborahfromdcspetersoncity9213
    @deborahfromdcspetersoncity9213 4 роки тому +6

    Kevin and Sarah, I love how you two are and how you break down the how's and why's of why you are going with a certain type of chicken, seeds, etc. It's sure is nice to see you two work together on your farm homesteading. Blessings to you from Debby in California.

  • @serobinson1
    @serobinson1 4 роки тому

    Can’t wait to see the chicks !

  • @karla.30
    @karla.30 4 роки тому +2

    So fun to see you working on projects together! I just wanted to tell you that you have been an inspiration to me after having cancer at 47, that I can garden again, raise meat rabbits and get some Nigerian Dwarf Goats! I was in a slump a Year ago, and now we are building our 5 acre homestead! ~Karla in MN

  • @larryr.johnson3048
    @larryr.johnson3048 4 роки тому

    Perhaps you could add a post that would hinge up to hold the lid up... like some autos have. It might help when you have to water or feed the birds.

  • @jessicagarrison1385
    @jessicagarrison1385 4 роки тому +1

    Nice work!!

  • @joanneburns325
    @joanneburns325 4 роки тому +2

    Is this the most beautiful Spring day ever in Missouri? Or have you changed cameras? Maybe it’s my eyesight, but the colors today seem so like those in an Andrew Wyeth painting in character! Maybe it’s a sign of Better Things to Come! Another lovely segment showing thoughtful planning and how well two can work together when one is a Lefty and the other a Righty! Wishing you a marvelous day, JB

  • @Aubrey.strawbrey444
    @Aubrey.strawbrey444 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for sharing your ways with us .

  • @darleneclark6098
    @darleneclark6098 4 роки тому

    Funny story. I'm a florist by trade and never leave home without my knife. We went on vacation to DC and we went to lots of museums. I was frisked and they tried to confiscate my knife. Luckily they let me bring it to the car LoL 😂

  • @erika_is_growing
    @erika_is_growing 4 роки тому +1

    Oh my gosh, Kevin's t-shirt is LIFE. Love your channel so much!

  • @timgiles9413
    @timgiles9413 3 роки тому +1

    Kevin, this is exactly what I had in mind to build.
    5' x 8' would be the perfect size.
    5 x 8 = 40 square feet
    40 divided by 2 (2 square feet per bird)
    = 20 birds max
    minus the feeder and waterer.
    = 18 birds max.
    One things I will do differently;
    I will use treated lumber for the framing, so it will last longer.
    Great video that helped me decide what to build.
    Yep, I'm raising 36 Cornish Cross next year using 2 chicken tractors. :)
    God Bless you guys :)

  • @jerseygirlvet
    @jerseygirlvet 4 роки тому

    They came out great. Good job.

  • @Visi-68
    @Visi-68 4 роки тому +3

    All of you homesteaders seem so patient❣️ I’m 64 and I’m not set in my ways but I’ve seen some comments that were like they thought you didn’t know your butt from a hole in the ground! I love your gentle ways! I wouldn’t do very well lol all I do is cat videos lol 😂

  • @levetamcclellan8551
    @levetamcclellan8551 4 роки тому

    Sarah you are awesome, you held right in there helping your hubby

  • @Larry342516
    @Larry342516 4 роки тому

    Great video. Thank you very much.

  • @raynall3593
    @raynall3593 4 роки тому

    I have to make a confession. I am just south of yall in Northern Arkansas and yall are about a year or 2 ahead of me so I watch your channel with interest cause yall usually get a little bit worse weather than we do, so I figure it is will work for you, it will work for me so i watch what yall do and then do the same.

  • @thomasdesmond2248
    @thomasdesmond2248 4 роки тому

    Just a suggestion a better and cheaper. Bedding for the chicks would be saw dust. You could get it for little or nothing from a saw mill. God bless

  • @durianamedeiros8079
    @durianamedeiros8079 4 роки тому

    If you put wheels on the bottom of it then you could move it to different part of your land easely

  • @r.p.thompson4635
    @r.p.thompson4635 4 роки тому

    I use screws and fender washers to hold my hardware cloth on my tractor and duck enclosure. I’m afraid staples could be pulled out by a raccoon, fox or dog. If you find that the staples aren’t enough, fender washers are a great way to use screws to anchor HWC.

  • @dramafan2440
    @dramafan2440 4 роки тому

    The chicken tracker looks great

  • @earlclaborn
    @earlclaborn 3 роки тому

    Good instructional video. I like it.

  • @richardparker1699
    @richardparker1699 4 роки тому

    The only thing that I have heard it called is rabbit wire. I like the way you think and get er done. Have a wonderful weekend.

  • @lisarobinson9671
    @lisarobinson9671 4 роки тому

    Excellent work Kevin you get a gold star for acknowledging Sarah and her contribution ( we Ladies like to hear it even though we usually know ). That being said great tractors for those dirty birds. They look like you will be using them for a while. Thanks for the walk through on how to build them. God bless

  • @carolleenkelmann3829
    @carolleenkelmann3829 4 роки тому

    Oh those poor chicks. Two days underway,......by post! Not accounting for delays! I sure want to be around when they arrive to see how many survive!

  • @tanyad4577
    @tanyad4577 4 роки тому

    I comment not out of fear for the heat lamps because i know they work and as long as you keep them secure (you did) and dust free they are safe but because i found a "bettet" option. I started using heating pads on a wire frame for the chicks to snuggle under (im sure you know they sell a heating plate too) . I have found that my chicks feather out faster and handle temperature changes more easily. It seems closer to hen raised. I always do it for layers but the meat birds seemed to be ready to move outside faster with them.
    You guys are great! I just wanted to give you a first hand review of that method if you ever wondered about it.

  • @Bennettfarm
    @Bennettfarm 4 роки тому +1

    This is awesome! I actually based my first chicken tractor off of your rabbit tractor plans! 😁 I love mine!

    • @heatherk8931
      @heatherk8931 2 роки тому

      Perfect idea, then theres a nest box area!

  • @margarettt7675
    @margarettt7675 4 роки тому

    Your videos have been referring to current conditions and uncertainties, and how you are approaching these issues in your plans. I know you have older members in your family, how are you including the older more vulnerable members of your family in your plans.

  • @debbiealtman4572
    @debbiealtman4572 4 роки тому

    Chicken trackers looking good.

  • @1rdgrnnr
    @1rdgrnnr 4 роки тому

    great looking tractors !!!!!

  • @maryjemisonMaryjay1936
    @maryjemisonMaryjay1936 4 роки тому

    Nice chicken Tractor 🚜

  • @jimcampbell47
    @jimcampbell47 3 роки тому

    Don''t mess with Sarah, she carries her own knife. My kind of woman

  • @shockerthreeone
    @shockerthreeone 4 роки тому

    Love this video. Helped me out a lot. Thank you!

  • @donnazappala7738
    @donnazappala7738 4 роки тому

    Yall are just awesome! You need to write a book of all the trial and error methods for gardening, raising farm animals, etc. There are so many people getting bad information from channels that aren't really concerned about the outcome (ie: organic, etc.) I've been binge watching your videos even though I probably never raise my own meat, I find the info you cheerfully deliver so interesting.

  • @wendyweddell2782
    @wendyweddell2782 4 роки тому

    Good job kevin & sarah

  • @jesscastillo2619
    @jesscastillo2619 4 роки тому

    I absolutely love your channel!

  • @barbkafilmout9449
    @barbkafilmout9449 4 роки тому

    Wow that was quick! Good on ya!

  • @deaconlyric
    @deaconlyric 4 роки тому

    I think that the latch might not have worked because they are normally for two pieces coming apart vertically. Yours were coming apart on an arch because the top piece is attached to a hinge.

  • @trjeffreys2921
    @trjeffreys2921 4 роки тому +10

    Oh my goodness is that spring peepers I hear in the background? I can’t wait to hear that in northern Ohio.

    • @lyricderbin
      @lyricderbin 4 роки тому

      They started about a week after you made your comment haha

  • @valerieellison2483
    @valerieellison2483 4 роки тому

    My dad and I made an A-frame hutch to keep my guineapig outside during the summer. We put thin metal handles on the ends so we could move it around and they were awful. They hurt your hands because they were thin and because you were so close to the frame, it made it hard to bend your knees to pick it up and walk with it. I wish we had done a handle system like yours.