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Lee Jinsheng don’t worry by the time you hit your first kvk you will have at least 2 if not 3 max epics boudica good for barbs/forts but not the open field in my opinion
Make sure he’s at least lv50 too so that he has a high number of troops under his command and has sufficient enough talent points. But epic sculptures get useless after awhile and collect dust like my 700 universal... so don’t worry about making a mistake in which epic to invest in.
@@gabrielo9891 hey I picked Germany and I got harmen and now he is maxed out what I should max next to paring with harmen Should it be Osman or sun tzu
That Martel and Sun Tzu section at the end was extremely useful top tip. Iv got CM 5511 I think but have been using him secondary on the wall. Will try switching from now on and dodge the 🔥
Another great vid, thank you chisgule! I think its worth noting for city defense especially for early game / f2p its better to shield the city than to defend as a city garrison. So that may suggest that using Sun in the open field in the early game is more effective until later on.
Amazing! I was always wondering about Sun Tzu and I was going to ask on today’s video about him but hey! Could we get an updated one for Joan of Arc (if there is one, I’m sorry, I haven’t seen it! I will look for it). I love your videos Chisgule, keep it up!
Great updated guide. As a F2P my main issue on all marches is tankiness. No Richard and a Martel with 5-2- - -. What is your main suggestion to add tankiness to any pair (especially cavalry is hard to keep alive)
Thank you so much chis.... Your commander guides are really helpful for a f2p player to be in right path in this game.... Hope I'll soon migrate to your kingdom 😁
Do the passive skills of the secondary commander apply to the troops? if yes does it stack with the primary commander or it's only 50%? cause somebody told me the passive will be half if it's in a rally as secondary.
So I do have a question regarding pairing Sun tzu with Minamoto If I wanted to rally Forts with Minamoto (Primary) and Sun Tzu would that technically be better then Minamoto (Primary) and Cao Cao? I am at an early stage of the game so my cao cao is only like lvl 20ish and Sun Tzu is too
Would sun tzu primary and aethel secondary be any good or would you suggest a different pairing for pvp and if you had to choose between any of those pairs for pvp who would it be and what primary and secondary
I want to pare him with Mulan...but am not sure if the support tree would help sun as the primary there's also the speed boost for Mulan as primary from the support tree
In the SL event, which build is better for defending the city? I ask that because from the wave 20 or so, your city starts to be swarm, especially when you are under 30 mil power. Is the 2nd build better and kills the units before the next wave comes or the first build should be used?
My first starting commander was Kusunoki but when the event giving epic sculpts I started with sun tzu he is so legendary! Thank you again Chisgule I was waiting for this video for a long time!! 😎😱
Chisgule I’d like to ask a question. If my city were to take an Attila rally, should I use sun tzu or Richard primary? The former has a skill tree while the latter is better at defense. So I’m perplexed when choosing between the two. This is similar to choosing whether Charles Martel or Constantine primary as garrison. Thank you.
『。 Of course I know. But I’m a f2p player, and I’ve never taken a rally myself. I’m just asking if Richard primary or Sun Tzu primary gives better results. I understand the final outcome won’t be good. I just want to experience the intensity of war.
Hi Chisgule, super awesome contents btw, was binge watching u the whole week lol. So im very very new at this game and was wondering how do i choose which build i want? Or is there a better build for new players?
Hey, i am super new to rise of kingdoms and i do enjoy watching your vids they do help... kind of? You most of the time talk about 5M power or like you can just get every commander whenever you want. I got him from the campaign sculptures and i wanna use a strong epic. Tho i don't feel like he is good to me because i am not being attacked and if i am being attacked i rather use a shield. Rn i am 500k and only using boudica cuz her exp gain is INSANE and i use her actively.
i am new to this game...i got some commanders for ressources and barbarians....i got sun tzu, scipio and pelayo...what should i do with them? which one building how? :)
Hello. I'm newbie and i like to see your videos, they are very informative. The thing I find confusing is that your words seems contradict yours. For example, "Sun Tzu should be the secondary for legendary" then later on you tell it doesn't really matter which is which. btw i love your content you get yourself a subscriber :)
Typically, you want to use the higher level commander as the primary. And since sun tzu is easier to level up, he should be the primary until your legendary commanders are higher. You want to use a legendary as soon as possible though, because people are more likely to focus a sun tzu primary in the field than say a richard or alex.
Thank you Chisgule, you have helped me a lot to be great at this game. But one concern with Sun T, can you respond? ROK changed skill levels for Sun T. Now (Feb of 2022) Sun T 1st skill is 3 targets and max 450, not 5 targets and 800 damage. not sure why they changed it. Maybe it was because he was too good for epic and down graded him. am I missing something? are they doing this to other commanders that were great, but maybe not so great after ROK changes things? love to hear your thoughts... Thank you again for your great content!
I almost entering the shadow legion event and i have sun 37 5,2,5,5 on the wall. As secondary what would you recommend? I have 45 expertised boudica, 43 expertised lohar, 48 minamoto 5,5,2,4, 30 5,1,1,1 cao cao
Can we talk about sun/Richard? I feel this is a ridiculous pairing that can’t seem to be stopped. Could you tell me what you would recommend, either sun primary or Richard primary, if that was a pairing you would send out? Or should I ignore that pairing from now on?
Hello Chisgule. I got an experticed Sun Tzu as my main infantry force. Right now I got him with a 5 1 Charles Martel but I can unlock Richard I and Alexander the Great. Should I invest in one of these commanders (it would be 5 1 as Charles) or should I stick with Charles?
Hello Chisgule, who would you recommend as a primary? Level 60 maxed Sun Tzu or 5511 Richard. We are in KVK 1 now in my kingdom. Thanks a lot, stay awesome!
Thank you for such a helpful video chisgule. If you don't mind answering, im 20k away from vip 10. I have 40k gems. Do you think i should just dump them now or will a MTG be near enough for me to wait?
hey Chisgule. Love your contents! I would on that one and and several others call your attention to something missing, according to me, in your talent order you suggest. Most players are Talenting him slowly in the early game while having not enough troops to fill a full Infantry march, for that reason don't you think it s way more efficient to start by feeding the skill tree before putting too much points in the inf tree? ( i go pick Undying fury cause i am a rage addict)
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BLUESTACKS ►► Play RoK on your COMPUTER: bstk.me/oszIC4ghy ← SUPPORTS the channel I hope that you enjoyed this video and let me know what you think of the talent builds here in the comments!
I have a question..does the secondary support tree add rage to the primary commander?
Pls sun tzu and Herman best talent
why did they make me into a game
-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
“Because we wanted to lol”
- Creators of the game
Gotta give you respect for putting in the time to do the time stamps
Totally agree that Sun Tzu is the best epic commander. I mostly invest all my universal into him.
Sometime I invest some into Boudica because she's the second ranked epic commander in my opinion
Lee Jinsheng don’t worry by the time you hit your first kvk you will have at least 2 if not 3 max epics boudica good for barbs/forts but not the open field in my opinion
I dont use my universals on Sun Tzu i have him as a 5/5/5/3
What about osman?
Make sure he’s at least lv50 too so that he has a high number of troops under his command and has sufficient enough talent points. But epic sculptures get useless after awhile and collect dust like my 700 universal... so don’t worry about making a mistake in which epic to invest in.
Sun Tzu is a super powerful commander and because of this guide I now know how to use him well as an F2P. Thanks Chisgule!
This sounds scripted, not kidding
reinyer adoriuq lol
@@reinyeradoriuq2733 lol
@@gabrielo9891 hey I picked Germany and I got harmen and now he is maxed out what I should max next to paring with harmen
Should it be Osman or sun tzu
andro games I prefer sun Tzu but Joan of arc and Osman are also great choices
That Martel and Sun Tzu section at the end was extremely useful top tip. Iv got CM 5511 I think but have been using him secondary on the wall. Will try switching from now on and dodge the 🔥
You are working so much for us. 88k sub is not fair. You are definetely deserve more sub.
No dislikes? Shows how amazing you are
Wow, I'm lucky! I was going for open field and found out that all of my talents were in the right place!
ill start with this commander i wont regret investing
Just got sun tzu and I am very excited to start building him
Love your videos
Sub Tzu is good in garrison and open field
Another great vid, thank you chisgule! I think its worth noting for city defense especially for early game / f2p its better to shield the city than to defend as a city garrison. So that may suggest that using Sun in the open field in the early game is more effective until later on.
Smashing the other content creators, clear, concise and easy to follow. The path to victory is the Chisgule way.
I remember watching your old sun Tzu video Hahaha wow.. Your reviews and overall quality of your videos have been exponentially better
Amazing! I was always wondering about Sun Tzu and I was going to ask on today’s video about him but hey!
Could we get an updated one for Joan of Arc (if there is one, I’m sorry, I haven’t seen it! I will look for it).
I love your videos Chisgule, keep it up!
Jaeinn one just came out
honestly love watching these videos they are so god damn specific and put together recommending you to everyone in my allience
I love your enthusiasm. Makes these videos fun to watch 😊
good job re-focusing on Epic commanders.. do more, do (Belisarius) next and how i can get maximum speed of him🌹🌹
Just expertised him yesterday. He's totally worth it.
“Whatever you do, do not reveal all your secrets in a UA-cam video, you fool, you moron”-Sun Tzu Art of War
I’ve been using Sun/Charles because I don’t have Richard and even though my Charles is only 5300 it’s still putting in work in open field
Chis, what's the best tree for an f2p running a generalized Sun Tzu? Like if I use him on the wall and open field. Like a mix
Great updated guide. As a F2P my main issue on all marches is tankiness. No Richard and a Martel with 5-2- - -. What is your main suggestion to add tankiness to any pair (especially cavalry is hard to keep alive)
Health and defense go a long way toward that especially if you can get it from equipment and talents
I been using martel secondary and even at only 5300 it still puts in work
Thank you so much chis....
Your commander guides are really helpful for a f2p player to be in right path in this game.... Hope I'll soon migrate to your kingdom 😁
Guides that help you get value, AND smash your enemies??????? Amazing
Defended my city against a 25m as a 15m with 2131 charles and 5-5-5-2 sun tzu. The man is godly
Is Sun Tzu and Joan of Arc a good combo, right now I’m going for Scipio for my Joan of Arc combo but I heard Sun Tzu might be good
Nice video! I’m SharpiezJuJu from the game! Love your channel I’ve watched a couple vids and they’re super helpful! Thx
Do the passive skills of the secondary commander apply to the troops? if yes does it stack with the primary commander or it's only 50%? cause somebody told me the passive will be half if it's in a rally as secondary.
@jeff pentagon Thanks for the explanations and examples! I really appreciate it
NGL youre the only RoK youtuber I watch
So I do have a question regarding pairing Sun tzu with Minamoto
If I wanted to rally Forts with Minamoto (Primary) and Sun Tzu would that technically be better then Minamoto (Primary) and Cao Cao?
I am at an early stage of the game so my cao cao is only like lvl 20ish and Sun Tzu is too
Pls, Chisule do Mehmed 🥺🥺
Facts
Hey chis after baudica sunztu and joan what is a good epic investment?
What is troop skill dmage?
Would sun tzu primary and aethel secondary be any good or would you suggest a different pairing for pvp and if you had to choose between any of those pairs for pvp who would it be and what primary and secondary
Baibars/ suntzu or baibars/minamoto for quick attacks on field, attacking resource gatherings?
Which build can I use alongside Osman as the primary commander to make the most brutal damage?
can you make a guide on how to score personal points on the KVK?
I want to pare him with Mulan...but am not sure if the support tree would help sun as the primary there's also the speed boost for Mulan as primary from the support tree
Love these updated commander guides, u should do Richard next!
In the SL event, which build is better for defending the city? I ask that because from the wave 20 or so, your city starts to be swarm, especially when you are under 30 mil power. Is the 2nd build better and kills the units before the next wave comes or the first build should be used?
hi. for f2p player what is the suggested build and use sun tzu as primary or secondary?
My first starting commander was Kusunoki but when the event giving epic sculpts I started with sun tzu he is so legendary!
Thank you again Chisgule I was waiting for this video for a long time!! 😎😱
Kusunoki+Sun Tzu garisson It great🗿
If I’m using Sun Tuz with Eulji, which commander should be the primary and what talent tree should I focus for each of them?
Love your vids!!
Hey chis... As a f2p should I go for vip or books for castle first ....
If u want to get t5 easly books but atleast get vip10 for daily golden head
@@mrscrappy3161 should I go for vip 14 or books ??
@@akilank693 well 13 its cool so go ahead and start with books
Can you show sun tzu and Charles Martel talent combo please. In battle field
Sir can I ask?
If sun tzu can be pare with Cesar? Help sir
No Sun Tzu is good for open field and garrison Caesar can be a little good on open field but he is good attacking cities
I use suntzu and Richard I, is this good? I wanted to go for more of a tanky damage kinda thing. I need opinions
Hey, Chis! Nice vid as usual :) Will you be covering LK75 tomorrow? Pass 4 will be opening in maybe the biggest kvk2 to date :D
Thank you so much for all the efforts and help you provide to help everyone out!
Thanks for the vid chis u always post the best content 🔥
Great video as always
Will there be an updated sun tsu talent guide or should I just follow your infantry stuff
Is bjorn also a good epic commander pairing?
Hi dude why u didn't go for full garrison tree for def I am having t4 and doing so is it OK
I use Richard first, sun second.. is that ok? To defend flags
Thank you for all of these videos
Would that city defence tree be good for shadow legion to?
Chisgule I’d like to ask a question. If my city were to take an Attila rally, should I use sun tzu or Richard primary? The former has a skill tree while the latter is better at defense. So I’m perplexed when choosing between the two. This is similar to choosing whether Charles Martel or Constantine primary as garrison. Thank you.
Max Chau just suffer or use Constantine with charles
『。 Of course I know. But I’m a f2p player, and I’ve never taken a rally myself. I’m just asking if Richard primary or Sun Tzu primary gives better results. I understand the final outcome won’t be good. I just want to experience the intensity of war.
At what point should I use El Cid over Herman?
Hey Chisgule!!!
Which pairing are you recommend between Sun tzu YSG and 5511 Richard YSG for open field fight?
Use Sun Tzu if he is expertise
Quick question what is better pairing for sun zu . Osmman on43 or eulji on20
Don't use Osman and eulji
One prob I see with aoe for barbs is if you hit ones that can wreck you or non of them are close enough together due to spread
Is sun Tzu good as a primary or secondary commander irrelevant to whom you pair him with??
super great video.. tq for all those tips!!
First i played with Boutica but then i switched to china and they gave me sun tzu, but i barely have a week playing. What should I use Sun Tzu for?
Hi Chisgule, super awesome contents btw, was binge watching u the whole week lol. So im very very new at this game and was wondering how do i choose which build i want? Or is there a better build for new players?
Can you do an epic commander vs an epic commander using a sample size of 1000 troops? Example Sun Tzu vs. Scipio
sun and Æthelflæd (both maxed) for city defence?
Hello bro chisgule. Im a beginner what talents should i use the open field or garrison . Im confuse. Thank you in advance.
Eulji with Garrison tree with sun secondary OK for defending castle?
Yes
Yes check out this video on the topic: ua-cam.com/video/PP4CZNXQZyY/v-deo.html
Hey, i am super new to rise of kingdoms and i do enjoy watching your vids they do help... kind of? You most of the time talk about 5M power or like you can just get every commander whenever you want. I got him from the campaign sculptures and i wanna use a strong epic. Tho i don't feel like he is good to me because i am not being attacked and if i am being attacked i rather use a shield. Rn i am 500k and only using boudica cuz her exp gain is INSANE and i use her actively.
i am new to this game...i got some commanders for ressources and barbarians....i got sun tzu, scipio and pelayo...what should i do with them? which one building how? :)
Chisgule should I make sun tzu expertised primary or richard at 5211 primary?
Use sun tzu expertise primary
Hello. I'm newbie and i like to see your videos, they are very informative. The thing I find confusing is that your words seems contradict yours. For example, "Sun Tzu should be the secondary for legendary" then later on you tell it doesn't really matter which is which. btw i love your content you get yourself a subscriber :)
Typically, you want to use the higher level commander as the primary. And since sun tzu is easier to level up, he should be the primary until your legendary commanders are higher.
You want to use a legendary as soon as possible though, because people are more likely to focus a sun tzu primary in the field than say a richard or alex.
Can we pair maxed Sun Tzu (Primary) with 5-5-1-1 Richard (Secondary) for open field with Full infantry march?
I think 5511 richard is good enough for primary if both have the same lvl.
Chisgule Thanks for your amazing guides as always you are the Best ! :)
Thanks bro 💯
City hall 9(tomorrow 10) I have put all my points on his garrison and using him as primary commander *_*
Thank you Chisgule, you have helped me a lot to be great at this game. But one concern with Sun T, can you respond? ROK changed skill levels for Sun T. Now (Feb of 2022) Sun T 1st skill is 3 targets and max 450, not 5 targets and 800 damage. not sure why they changed it. Maybe it was because he was too good for epic and down graded him. am I missing something? are they doing this to other commanders that were great, but maybe not so great after ROK changes things? love to hear your thoughts... Thank you again for your great content!
The 800 damage and 5 targets are for his expertise
I almost entering the shadow legion event and i have sun 37 5,2,5,5 on the wall. As secondary what would you recommend? I have 45 expertised boudica, 43 expertised lohar, 48 minamoto 5,5,2,4, 30 5,1,1,1 cao cao
For now I think your Mina is your best bet as a secondary
@@Chisgule thank you very much!
@@pyrostuart Minamoto with 5524 is great with sun 5255 wow
What skill you need to build to get the 3 meteor of sun tsu?
"this guy is fake I don't look like that"
sun tzu the art of war
Does Sun Tzu’s 4th skill damage boosting skill apply to Alex’s 2nd skill?
No, Alex’s 2nd skill does not qualify as an active skill. Definitely a good question to ask though
If I don't have a full t4 inf army yet, is it better to go skill?
Skill with garrison or skill with infantry
@@jirielrantayo7609 Thanks
@@chicnuggz9 Welcome
I was talking about sun tzu with my alliance yesterday. Such a coincidence.
Could you make a new one of these videos on Joan of Arc? Because that would be great.
Can we talk about sun/Richard? I feel this is a ridiculous pairing that can’t seem to be stopped. Could you tell me what you would recommend, either sun primary or Richard primary, if that was a pairing you would send out? Or should I ignore that pairing from now on?
Hello Chisgule. I got an experticed Sun Tzu as my main infantry force. Right now I got him with a 5 1 Charles Martel but I can unlock Richard I and Alexander the Great. Should I invest in one of these commanders (it would be 5 1 as Charles) or should I stick with Charles?
Alex is the play. 5511 minimum on the Alex. Optimally 5551
@@Chisgule Thank you very much
I did a mistake in the early game and my Charles is now at 2 1 1 4,is better to use him on the wall or an expertised sun tzu??
chisgule can you make an updated tree build for charles martel? please💪
Hello Chisgule, who would you recommend as a primary? Level 60 maxed Sun Tzu or 5511 Richard. We are in KVK 1 now in my kingdom. Thanks a lot, stay awesome!
Open field I’d say Richard
Thank you for such a helpful video chisgule. If you don't mind answering, im 20k away from vip 10. I have 40k gems. Do you think i should just dump them now or will a MTG be near enough for me to wait?
Go for the VIP 10.
Wait for it
@@bt891 I will decide with the next person who comments. Its tied 1-1
@@jirielrantayo7609 I will decide with the next person who comments. Its tied 1-1
@@alexv6119 good luck either way :)
Chisule How about Sun tzu as primary and second is Alexander the great is that good??
Yes that’s good
@@Chisgule Thanks that actually im going to do😅 i want to make sure i ask hahahaah
I max first skill for sun then i level up him 2 start cz second unless garison cz i wana use him battle feild
Depending on how far your account has progressed his early-game is best for defending against Shadow legion invasion
Its shadow legion here suntzu maxed / khan 5554 good for garrison??
The khan is a weird choice because the 3rd and 4th skills won’t work. That said it would be a lot of damage if he’s secondary.
I use Kusonoki with Charels as secondary
I think change charles
hey Chisgule. Love your contents! I would on that one and and several others call your attention to something missing, according to me, in your talent order you suggest. Most players are Talenting him slowly in the early game while having not enough troops to fill a full Infantry march, for that reason don't you think it s way more efficient to start by feeding the skill tree before putting too much points in the inf tree? ( i go pick Undying fury cause i am a rage addict)
i am using him as a primary in my garrison in canyon and in the open field.... lol what talent build should i pick??
Open field hahah