The Manics were a weird band in the early days. There was a lot of desperation and attention seeking but the music was still raw and appealing to me. To be honest I didn’t have much time for the Glamour Twins, Richey and Nicky Wire, playing dress up and posturing. It felt like their looking the part was more important to them than actually being the part. Luckily James and Sean held the whole thing together musically and live. I saw them a few times leading up to this gig and a few times afterwards. Notably in Bournemouth, October 92 something clicked and the blueprint for future gigs seemed to be established. JDBs guitar was immense. A solid slab of noise that had enough mid and bass in the mix to ensure that Richey and Nickys shortcomings did not distract from the new material. And of course, Sean was rock steady on the drums. All that said - Richey was clearly struggling with his own demons and did well to keep it together for as long as he did. His disappearance clearly has impacted the band and the families. Respect to them all.
Great drummer. Covers up for the fact that Nicky Wire is a shit bassist at this point. Richey can't play much either. Odd band. You got a guitarist/vocalist and a drummer covering the music, and two half-musicians doing the rest.
True to a point. Richey never played on the early albums, but that was partly because he was far more focussed on writing lyrics. At this point he wrote most of the band's lyrics. He never actually wanted to be a guitarist.
I was there and remember seeing JDB walking along the river Thames at the 94 festival on his own looking very down the nineties were a amazing time the acid and the xtc lol
@@samuelbarrett9403 Back in ‘90/‘91 the music audience was very different to as it is now. The UK has always been snobbish about what it listens to regarding RnR albeit it has got better - look at European festivals, they always have such a varied lineup but that doesn’t happen in the UK. The Manics turned up with a honking Clash-like sound and with intelligent young men who already knew how to handle the very influential music press. Back then Cardiff wasn’t always on the touring radar, most bands would go as far as Bristol, and yet you had this band from South Wales who were a force of nature, flirted with androgynous imagery and were highly articulate. They just seemed to generate reactions from people, which ultimately is what they wanted, who would rubbish them. Unbelievably Wales wasn’t viewed as the potent hotbed for musical talent it always has been - things are very different now thankfully and the Manics are part of that. Long answer but just trying to give you a snapshot of how it was in ‘91. We were called ‘indie-kids’ but we were just all just music heads. I still remember hearing Motown Junk & Stay Beautiful for the first time, seeing them in the madness that was Singleton Park, the disturbing interviews Richy gave before his disappearance, the first time I heard Design For Life on radio on my Walkman going to art college in south Wales thinking what a huge song it was and how this will change everything for them and it did. They became loved and accepted by many more people and it was their music that did it. Really interesting journey they’ve had and I can tell you from experience that they’re really decent blokes too.
Yeah I was thinking Richey actually was decent on guitar but Nicky sounds very sloppy on you love us, borderline car crash stuff. Not sure why as on suicide is painless he suddenly can play lol
He also looked focused on actually playing rather than throwing the rock poses - quite different to what he did in their promo videos back then (and to Nicky at that gig, for that matter). In contrast to his anti-muso statements at that time, Richey seemed to be really interested in learning how to play guitar properly.
Cracking performance. A lot of folks are under the misapprehension that Richey couldn't play. He could, he just didn't want to. He thought guitar was ridiculous. Furthermore, I find his use of a BOSS fuzz pedal rather than the natural sound of the Marshall JCM-900 as some sort of piss take that he would find funny.
Greateast rock band ever with the brightest and irritating and handsome dead member ever seen Richey :) And I really love to hear when a new album is out that they still think about a band member lost decades ago :)
Wonder what and who James took a dislike to in the audience enough to come down and spit at them right at the end. Fuckin brilliant band man. South Wales is the place to be!!
@@philipnoblethe3rd695 I was in Wales before a few years ago but that was north. Got the boat over and drove to Snowdonia and stayed in llanberis. Did Snowdon. Beautiful it was 😎
Also one of the most audible accounts of Richie playing. Gotta thank the sound engineers not totally familiar with how far down the mix he was at a typical show. But it just proves that even though he wasn’t up to the level he wanted to be, and by ‘95 he was perfectly acceptable live.
Richey doesn’t actually sound that bad on guitar- I think the “not being able to play” thing has been overblown a bit. His strumming is off but he’s hitting the right chords
It's funny how James never liked nirvana and they were making waves the same time. I always saw parallels in the sound of some of manics songs and nirvana. Maybe it's just me that sees the parallels. I just always thought JDB would have respected Kurt as a musician and songwriter but he said in some magazine he hated them 😆😆
' I was jealous of ‘Nevermind’ for a long time, and always will be. A truly great rock record is one of the hardest things to achieve.”' JDB Interview with NME , 25th September 2021.
Also playing completely the wrong notes at times too. James and the drummer were the two in the band who were actually talented. Oh and Nicky is a massive bellend too..... always banging on about how "he's got a politics degree" and how most other musicians are "probably only interested in their plectrums" Wanker.
@@richardlloyd166 My critiq was merley on the left itself, having becommed themselfs what they hated: authoritarian powerfreaks. Glad that you also dislake that.... I fear however you may fail me here
the only politician i have time for is eammon mccann derry mla who is as socialist left t on a panel with sin fein and dup after leaving the eu 2016 said it is a rich mans club, it is not the eu that is corrupt but the whole of politics The eu refuses to regulate zero hours contracts for workers and in the 1 party state of Wales Labour veto'd to abolish zero hours contracts but we are brain-washed to believe the eu an labour left uphold workers rights.
@@garrychivers4807 "A 'zero-hour contract' is a type of contract between an employer and a worker according to which the employer is not obliged to provide any minimum working hours and the worker is not obliged to accept any work offered.[1] The term 'zero-hour contract' is primarily used in the United Kingdom. The employee may sign an agreement to be available for work as and when required, so that no particular number of hours or times of work are specified.[2] " Thats so F-updt.
Richey Edwards....... a lovely guy greatly missed but jeez he was an awful guitarists. Like, literally I'm surprised he could even plug the thing in. Anyone notice you can only hear one guitar here? (James's) ..... there's a reason for that. Good lyricist though.
@@dls3939Yeah I'm kind of surprised to find recordings on here where he's audibly in the mix (I thought they always just muted him). I'm glad he features musically somewhere other than those couple of album tracks (even if it's just on these rough live recordings).
Such a shame he was also such a bad songwriter aswell. He was the godhead of the band 89-94. The guitar was a prop, nothing more. nothing less. Read the guys lyrics.......
I just find this performance so exciting and visceral. Something that is sorely lacking in music these days (and was also lacking in many of their peers at the time)
their not really overrated lol, it'd be different if thwy were, thwy just have a loyal fanbase and also this was live so ofc its gonna not gonna sound as good as the studio version
The Manics were a weird band in the early days. There was a lot of desperation and attention seeking but the music was still raw and appealing to me. To be honest I didn’t have much time for the Glamour Twins, Richey and Nicky Wire, playing dress up and posturing. It felt like their looking the part was more important to them than actually being the part.
Luckily James and Sean held the whole thing together musically and live. I saw them a few times leading up to this gig and a few times afterwards. Notably in Bournemouth, October 92 something clicked and the blueprint for future gigs seemed to be established. JDBs guitar was immense. A solid slab of noise that had enough mid and bass in the mix to ensure that Richey and Nickys shortcomings did not distract from the new material. And of course, Sean was rock steady on the drums.
All that said - Richey was clearly struggling with his own demons and did well to keep it together for as long as he did. His disappearance clearly has impacted the band and the families. Respect to them all.
I can hear Richey's guitar very clearly in my left earphone
Keep coming back to watch this, Motown Junk is incredible, so much energy, attitude and youth, James looks incredible, wish I'd been there!
Great drummer. Covers up for the fact that Nicky Wire is a shit bassist at this point. Richey can't play much either. Odd band. You got a guitarist/vocalist and a drummer covering the music, and two half-musicians doing the rest.
True to a point. Richey never played on the early albums, but that was partly because he was far more focussed on writing lyrics. At this point he wrote most of the band's lyrics. He never actually wanted to be a guitarist.
Imagine seeing this and Nirvana on the same weekend.
The line up for that year was just silly good
I did though my memory is sketchy!
I was there and remember seeing JDB walking along the river Thames at the 94 festival on his own looking very down the nineties were a amazing time the acid and the xtc lol
i did. it was good.
I did! It was fucking amazing 🥰
Great to see such a big turn out here for them. They were hated by so many around this time. Not in Wales though. We fucking loved them.
Why were they hated?
@@samuelbarrett9403 Back in ‘90/‘91 the music audience was very different to as it is now. The UK has always been snobbish about what it listens to regarding RnR albeit it has got better - look at European festivals, they always have such a varied lineup but that doesn’t happen in the UK. The Manics turned up with a honking Clash-like sound and with intelligent young men who already knew how to handle the very influential music press. Back then Cardiff wasn’t always on the touring radar, most bands would go as far as Bristol, and yet you had this band from South Wales who were a force of nature, flirted with androgynous imagery and were highly articulate. They just seemed to generate reactions from people, which ultimately is what they wanted, who would rubbish them. Unbelievably Wales wasn’t viewed as the potent hotbed for musical talent it always has been - things are very different now thankfully and the Manics are part of that. Long answer but just trying to give you a snapshot of how it was in ‘91. We were called ‘indie-kids’ but we were just all just music heads. I still remember hearing Motown Junk & Stay Beautiful for the first time, seeing them in the madness that was Singleton Park, the disturbing interviews Richy gave before his disappearance, the first time I heard Design For Life on radio on my Walkman going to art college in south Wales thinking what a huge song it was and how this will change everything for them and it did. They became loved and accepted by many more people and it was their music that did it. Really interesting journey they’ve had and I can tell you from experience that they’re really decent blokes too.
@CidersAndReligiousCrusades I saw them around that time in Wales too. It was a great show.
@@samuelbarrett9403Too many reasons Stay alive
@@thefeelcompanygreat insights. Thanks!
Go Richey, proper having it! He may not have been the best guitar player but he is holding down the rhythm and giving it everything
He actually played better than Nicky in this show LOL
Yeah I was thinking Richey actually was decent on guitar but Nicky sounds very sloppy on you love us, borderline car crash stuff. Not sure why as on suicide is painless he suddenly can play lol
@@DanteDiCarloMusic I think it was intentional.
He also looked focused on actually playing rather than throwing the rock poses - quite different to what he did in their promo videos back then (and to Nicky at that gig, for that matter). In contrast to his anti-muso statements at that time, Richey seemed to be really interested in learning how to play guitar properly.
Cracking performance. A lot of folks are under the misapprehension that Richey couldn't play. He could, he just didn't want to. He thought guitar was ridiculous.
Furthermore, I find his use of a BOSS fuzz pedal rather than the natural sound of the Marshall JCM-900 as some sort of piss take that he would find funny.
Nicky Wire at this point was uniquely the best and worst bass guitarist in the world.
Greateast rock band ever with the brightest and irritating and handsome dead member ever seen Richey :) And I really love to hear when a new album is out that they still think about a band member lost decades ago :)
Richey looking cool as fuck!!!
Wonder what and who James took a dislike to in the audience enough to come down and spit at them right at the end. Fuckin brilliant band man. South Wales is the place to be!!
Maybe is a way to say "you love us"
I dream of being in south Wales. What places would you recommend to visit and see to get a real feel for the place ? Caerphilly ? I live in Dublin
Conor Smith .. The Rhondda Valleys!!! And of course nearby Blackwood! South Wales is a great place!! 👍🏽
@@philipnoblethe3rd695 cheers bro !!
@@philipnoblethe3rd695 I was in Wales before a few years ago but that was north. Got the boat over and drove to Snowdonia and stayed in llanberis. Did Snowdon. Beautiful it was 😎
Richey Edwards a rock legend.
C.
Also one of the most audible accounts of Richie playing. Gotta thank the sound engineers not totally familiar with how far down the mix he was at a typical show. But it just proves that even though he wasn’t up to the level he wanted to be, and by ‘95 he was perfectly acceptable live.
To be fair to him i dont think he was included in many band rehearsals till '94
@@rocknrollwillsaveyoursoul7279 You're right on that mate, he just stayed at home reading, drinking and chain smoking.
Who is Richie?! I know a RICHEY Edwards was in this marvellous band. C.
Richey......R I C H E Y
@@gregorjp4513 yes.
What a god damn heartfelt performance. Outstanding.
Totally cranked my phone up for the you love us riff 🤪 also JDB 🤤
Oh dear someone forgot to switch Richie's guitar amp off.
Richey doesn’t actually sound that bad on guitar- I think the “not being able to play” thing has been overblown a bit. His strumming is off but he’s hitting the right chords
they needed another guitar badly i think msp woulda been bigger
It wasn't plugged in !!
@@benjimorris7805 It was here! And in loads of other live recordings. Watch this video with headphones on and pay attention to the left channel
@@jaken07274 don’t shatter my illusions !!
It's funny how James never liked nirvana and they were making waves the same time. I always saw parallels in the sound of some of manics songs and nirvana. Maybe it's just me that sees the parallels. I just always thought JDB would have respected Kurt as a musician and songwriter but he said in some magazine he hated them 😆😆
they played pennyroyal tea at reading 94
Punk
' I was jealous of ‘Nevermind’ for a long time, and always will be. A truly great rock record is one of the hardest things to achieve.”' JDB Interview with NME , 25th September 2021.
@@kanedasrifle i bet kurt would have loved holy bible , pity he never got to hear it 😢
I have both album's signed!
what beautiful men
I have chatted to one and got his autograph on a signed set list! amazing band.
I was there down at the front. Best band of Reading Festival 1992. The Farm were on before them and got so much stuff thrown at them.
i was there
WOWOWの放送を録画して擦り切れる程見ました。レディング最高のラインナップでしたね。
What happened at the end to make James spit at someone in the crowd ?
Nothing. Punk rock.
Cultural Chernobyl x
なつかしい
若かったねー
In COVID TIMES more people listen Manic and fall in love with this music!
Been listening to them since 1992, before any damn covid existed!
JDB!!!!!!!
Back when unnormal normality was normal.
ｶｯｺｲｲｶｯｺｲｲｶｯｺｲｲ!!
totally on fire!
Like the opposite of a football chant of the time
Richey looks like izzy stradlin here
Hahahaha
@@treborillusion he does!
He does indeed, the Manics dug G’nR by their own statements. Richey was beyond the cool by this point.
I love how the rest of the band look like t rex and then the drummer looks likes he is playing in his room after coming home from school 😆
Who is Ritchie?! RICHEY Edwards was his name. 👍🏼
And yes do do!! ❤️❤️❤️🎤🎤🎤🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🎤🎤🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾🐓🐓🥒🥂🥂🍺🍻🛶🛶🛶🛑
this upload wasnt around when i was in college. thank you
Mannniiiiiiic❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍
crazy how much energy richey had here compared to shows just one or two years later...
the bass played out of tempo. he needed more practice
Also playing completely the wrong notes at times too. James and the drummer were the two in the band who were actually talented.
Oh and Nicky is a massive bellend too..... always banging on about how "he's got a politics degree" and how most other musicians are "probably only interested in their plectrums"
Wanker.
@@Dave..1978-i9t Nick is a good bassist now, a very decent lyricist, and a nice bloke.
One of, if not THE best, Manics videos I've seen on YT.
Wow.
Thanks and more moore💖💖🙏👍👍👍🌄💝💝💝🤣💪😍😍😍
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉94????wow
i was there yesssss and in 94
In the punk days the audience would spit on the bands
Apparently The Damned started that disgusting habit.
Yeah and it was fucking disgusting.
Were we really that beautiful?
Pleasein'MSP are't like Nirvana anymore 'cause not like that anyway'🙂
Back in those days, leftism was a good thing. World has changed my friends
Fascism / alt. right has never been and is not now the solution
@@richardlloyd166 My critiq was merley on the left itself, having becommed themselfs what they hated: authoritarian powerfreaks. Glad that you also dislake that.... I fear however you may fail me here
the only politician i have time for is eammon mccann derry mla who is as socialist left t on a panel with sin fein and dup after leaving the eu 2016 said it is a rich mans club, it is not the eu that is corrupt but the whole of politics
The eu refuses to regulate zero hours contracts for workers and in the 1 party state of Wales Labour veto'd to abolish zero hours contracts but we are brain-washed to believe the eu an labour left uphold workers rights.
@@garrychivers4807 "A 'zero-hour contract' is a type of contract between an employer and a worker according to which the employer is not obliged to provide any minimum working hours and the worker is not obliged to accept any work offered.[1] The term 'zero-hour contract' is primarily used in the United Kingdom.
The employee may sign an agreement to be available for work as and when required, so that no particular number of hours or times of work are specified.[2] " Thats so F-updt.
Leftism didn’t change - you just got older…..
Richey Edwards....... a lovely guy greatly missed but jeez he was an awful guitarists. Like, literally I'm surprised he could even plug the thing in. Anyone notice you can only hear one guitar here? (James's) ..... there's a reason for that.
Good lyricist though.
I can hear both of them with headphones on, surprisingly Richey is actually hitting the right cords here, sloppy sure but eh still bloody great.
@@dls3939Yeah I'm kind of surprised to find recordings on here where he's audibly in the mix (I thought they always just muted him). I'm glad he features musically somewhere other than those couple of album tracks (even if it's just on these rough live recordings).
Such a shame he was also such a bad songwriter aswell. He was the godhead of the band 89-94. The guitar was a prop, nothing more. nothing less. Read the guys lyrics.......
@@jimmypopt.v.3037
He was a great lyricist. That was it.
Richey wasn`t there for his technical proficiency on the geetar, if you`re clued up enough to post then SURELY you should know this.
haha
did they sell their souls to make good music, copying others, this sounds shiiii
Every band copies their heroes. This is a "period" in the cycle of a band if you don`t get it now then i`m daring you wouldn`t have in 1992.
I just find this performance so exciting and visceral. Something that is sorely lacking in music these days (and was also lacking in many of their peers at the time)
Not very good are they, a very overrated band
their not really overrated lol, it'd be different if thwy were, thwy just have a loyal fanbase and also this was live so ofc its gonna not gonna sound as good as the studio version
Disagree. This was excellent.