My former employer Johnson Controls Corp. owns 80% of the replacement battery business and acts like a monopoly. They set the price high and the other manufacturers just match it for high profits. Lead Acid batteries are the number 1 recycle product in the World, nearly 100%, so no raw material cost. It cost them, 12 years ago, about $8.00 to build and ship a battery. They manu. Sears Die Hard, Interstate, Optima, Dura Start. Ford OEM., Mercedes OEM. and on and on. They recently went on a huge price gouge. They are a monopoly and buys out competitors. The original Optima batteries, before being bought by JC last forever. I have some that are 27 years old. The newer ones have a fault built in that causes them to start loosing voltage after 5 years. Built in obsolescence.
I still have two of the originals in tractors that are 20+ years old! I have another 12 or so in cars and trucks/boats/rv's and none of them last anymore. I bought the later ones based on the performance of the originals.
I wouldn't buy optima anyways, for half the price one can goto walmart and get a battery with more AMPs and able to swap them out all over the place 24/7 compared to paying more of optima with less CCA. Matters for those of us driving diesel trucks that need the AMPs in the cold.
I have a 05 Chevy blazer with a upgraded alt that fits your silverado 2500 ... AD-244 140 amp @ idle which is 50 or 60 amps more then my old stock I no longer have dimming headlights with say the radio and AC on I have had many batteries feeling out what is good and bad... My 2 cents..Just buy whatever you want ..aslong as it has a min 5 year warranty and Try your best to get a battery no older then 6 months old I would even Leave the walmart for another one if they have older batts ...My battery is a maxx everstart 8 months now ..no issues and thats with Canadian -40c and F weather
This is glorious, I have been researching "rejuvenating car batteries" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Ammaceen Reconditioning Rabblement - (should be on google have a look ) ? Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my co-worker got great success with it.
I know I'm knit picking here but you only have one battery not 6. The individual groups of plates are called cells. You have 6 cells which come together to form a battery of cells.
It may not always be an easy repair on your car. Take the Dodge avenger and Chrysler Sebring for example. The battery is located in the driver side wheel well meaning you have to put the car up on stands to remove a battery. AGM batteries, although more expensive, have better warranties as well. And they're great for luxury cars due to their larger reserve capacity. And although disconnecting the battery when it's not used, won't stop the battery from losing it's charge. Any rechargeable battery will lose it's charge over time and should be charged periodically even when not in use, hence the use of a battery tender. Some even have a quick disconnect adapter for those hard to reach batteries.
If your car has an ECM (computer), I'd shy away from installing a quick disconnect adapter. The computer, radio, clock, etc. need the battery power all the time. Be careful with those trickle chargers too. Ones, like the one shown in the video have a tendency to overcharge and even destroy a battery over extended use. They are usually set with a too high cutoff voltage. What they do is cycle on and off. Typically bring battery voltage up to around 14.5, then cut off, wait till the battery gets down to around 13.5 then kicks back in. I had one of these on one of my boat battery once during off season (about 8 months). When I went to start the boat next season, engine woudn't crank! Found out the float charger burn't up the battery! I may still use this charger, but only leave on my boat battery for about a week, wait 2 months, put back on for a week. That seems to work out ok.
Mostly newer BMW/Mercedes to stay away from the quick adapters. The modern ones losing electrical connection will cause a lot of faults that can only be cleared by the dealer. But even regular cars in the past twenty years, the computer learns your throttle application for best efficiency at low throttle levels. This can take several hundred miles for the system to learn. Once you disconnect, the car may feel different, and not necessarily in a good way. This is why when dealers change batteries, they usually put a temporary battery pack online to ensure the memory buffers are kept intact.
You can't go to high in the CCA rating. If your engine doesn't need the extra capacity it simply won't use it. Where an extra high CCA rating is extremely useful is in cold weather starting. A higher CCA rating means you can start your engine reliably more times that day, before failing because you have the extra standby capacity. I have see batteries with low CCA fail to start an engine in very cold winter temperatures where my neighbor could not start their car at all. My car parked right next to them started my car normally and then jump started several neighbors who could not start their car. I then drove several very short distances (not long enough to charge my battery), shut off and restarted my car easily each time (the temperatures were 35 degrees below zero Fahrenheit that winter). That is why I always get the battery with the highest CCA rating that will fit my car. It costs more but I can always start my car reliably (it only takes one breakdown for you ti regret buying a cheaper battery).
Those of us that drive diesels know all to well, add on top of cranking a high compression engine the drain of glow plugs and/or grid heaters. Walmart carries the best battery and cheapest for my application and since I have to buy 2 of them when I change batteries they are 1000CCA each, crappy optima don't make them that strong.
The battery I am replacing is a 800 cca, that's what was in the car when a family member gifted me the vehicle. I now need a new battery and living in Florida I was told I don't need another 800, a 300 to 500 would be suffient.
Yeah I'm surprised he even mentioned one of those. Not to mention on many cars you'll loose the radio functionality until you can find and plug in the code. Then have to reset all your favorite stations again.
Never use a mechanical disconnect on newer vehicles. You will lose your driveability memory in the ecm. Therefore relearn procedure is necessary for the vehicle to run correctly. Other issues - IM test, DTC, etc. Use a battery maintainer. If you have a large battery drain, get it diagnosed, or it can lead to other costly repairs.
Very well directed, created, animations, and graphics. I have seen a lot of how-to videos and this is one of the best. Thank you! off to go buy a new battery.
Fairly accurate description, the sure fire way to make your battery last for many years is simply to ensure it remains above 12.5 volts at all times, just buy and use a battery maintainer/tender.
Cheers mate,I'm not the sharpest knife in the draw when it comes to machanical issues,but you actually taught me how to go buy my new battery thank you
JSYK: Johnson Controls sold-off its Power Solutions division back in 2018/2019 to Brookfield Business Partners, and has become Clarios. Also, Toyota has been using OEM batteries from Johnson Controls since roughly around 2013, and are probably still using them with Clarios. Toyota has previously used OEM batteries from Panasonic (formerly Matsushita Electrical Industrial International), including in around 2009. Sears has sold its DieHard brand to Advance Auto Parts, and their batteries are now made by Clarios. To market the announcement, they hired Bruce Willis, and you can guess what & why.
Here is what I learned as to why Auto Batteries have a short life. While in the store, I decided to pop off the caps of the new battery, to inspect the electrolyte levels. The first battery was so low that 1 of the cells had no acid above the plates. On the second and third batteries, I found them equally deficient. Having studying Automotive Technology at a Public Technical School, I knew what the remedy was. After Sears installed the new battery, I went to my local NAPA auto store and spent an additional $13.00 for 32 Oz. container of battery acid aka sulfuric acid. It took almost 8 Oz. to bring the levels to the bottom of the fill ring. That was in August, 2013, and the battery is just showing signs of failure. Recently while in Walmart, I inspected several EverStart Maxx fluid levels, and discovered the same thing. So, why does the factory not fill them to the lower ring? Because, if they did, some of the electrolyte would spill out, especially when moved with a Forklift.
The BEST vid I have seen Fast, breezy and very informative, However, he admits his chemistry is weak. My question is; what is the moving force? What force starts the whole process? , Is it somehow ignited? Is it spontaneous ?? Thank you
People always say that you should buy the most expensive battery you can so the battery won't fail and leave you stranded. But guess what, all batteries will eventually fail. You can make them last longer by taking care of them (keep them full of water if they are not sealed and don't completely deplete them if they are not deep cell batteries) but one day they will leave you stranded. A more expensive battery might give you a little more time but expensive batteries are still just ticking time bombs. So I say buy the battery with the best cost per warranty time. If you can double the warranty for less than twice the cost then go for it. But after the warranty is up, keep checking your battery and expect to need a new one sooner or later.
That disconnect at the end. Every time that is used the Car Computer will reset. That means if you are going to get an inspection, your car will fail because the computer needs at least 60 miles driven on it to be recorded in the memory. Maybe the newer model cars having a back up for the computer, but as far as older cars, it's not recommended.
Brian, I read that a hybrid plug in 12V battery doesn't last as long because the battery doesn't start the car and the battery doesn't get a fast discharge on a normal basis. I see a recommendation of putting it on a tender regularly to resolve the issue of film formation on the plates. The recommendation does not come with an explanation on the science. Is the recommendation true?
Disconnecting the battery (through a device or the old fashioned way) doesn't help with self-discharge though, which can lead to sulfation and cause early battery failure as well. Connecting to a proper float charger does, and even if the battery isn't installed at the time, drastically improves it's life-cycle and shelf-life. Plus, you won't lose your radio presets and clock, or whatever... lol
Biggest scams are warrantys for a battery. Bought a battery last month. Was 7 years old. Seller said I should buy a warranty as most batteries are not good after 3 years. I picked up my new battery and said ....... No thanks my last battery lasted 7 years.... I will take my chances! I swear anything to take more $ from you.
Good video overall but there's one small issue. Crank amps and cold crank amps are measurements of discharge rates, not capacity. Discharge rates are a measure of how much power can come out for a period of time, typically continuous OR bursts of 10-30 seconds, and capacity is a measurement of how much power the battery can actually hold, which is measured in Ah- amps per hour. Crank amps are most likely burst ratings.
CCA is a burst rating, and since Automotive batteries are normal used to just start the car, is that Burts that we car about (especially the its cold out).
how do i know i can use a different car battery ? Even if it fit i want to make sure that it's ok for me to use it ?The car battery is called a ever start side post battery i thought about putting it in a 2000 saturn car or a 2002 chevy impala ?
If you replace a 12 volt car battery with another 12 car battery it will work. Here is what to watch out for. Make sure that the terminals are the same and in the same order (left to right or right to left); does it fit the space correctly (it must not be too big or two small or the bracket will not hold the battery in place and you will break the battery); does to have the same capacity (or more) than the factory recommendation (i.e. the same or more CCA is good, less is not good).
Its not so easy to replace a battery on a Jaguar XF because the battery control module needs to be reset via the OBDII port and diagnostics. Its a pain because if you don't do it, the car won't charge the battery properly and will keep giving a low battery warning on the media display. A real pain!
that mechanical disconnect valve seems too much work. it would be simpler to just add a fixed breaker switch on cable couple inches from post and mounted to the side while still connect so one can just flip/open the circuit.
From personal experiance, do not use one of those disconnect devices he showed. I had one on my truck in San Diego to keep my truck from being stolen. They have a tendency to vibrate loose under normal condition causing your battery to not charge. It even worse when your driving and your engine quits running due to now current flow. BE WARNED, STAY AWAY!
Great video to explain these starter batteries. I get a Lithium for my electric cars so I don't have any toxic LEAD. It's one of the worst pollution in the world. We took it out of paint and even gas why not car stater batteries. I use Ohmmu.com They last 3 or more times longer ,they are half the weight. The new Hyundai IONIQ Blue is the 1st automaker OEM lithium starter battery.
We don't have power written like that here in Europe, or at least Romania, here it's normal Ah and shortcircuit current - so I can have a 60Ah battery with 500A cranking current. Nothing about temperatures.
Nice informative video... thanks I HAVE A QUESTION CAN YOU PLEASE REPLY IF YOU HAVE TIME? ACTUALLY I WAS WONDERING IF I CAN HOOD TWO BATTERIES TOGETHER, ONE IS 12V ACID NORMAL TRADITIONAL BATTERY AND ANOTHER ONE IS 12V DEEP CYCLE OPTIMA YELLOW TOP BATTERY. IS IT SAFE TO DO THAT FOR LONGER PERIODS? MANY THANKS AND ADVANCE..
Not a good idea. The batteries will not charge correctly since they take a recharge at different rates. You should always use 2 like batteries that are the same age.
I agree, the two different constructions require different charging. You can easily boil off the electrolyte in one battery while the second one is still not fully charged, and you could have a situation where one battery is at a higher charge level so it will discharge to charge the lower battery.
In Japan they've dumbed down the battery buying process. There's no amps, chemistry or anything like that, they only have the mileage and years ratings, the higher of those two the "better" the battery is supposed to be.
The most important number is the "resurve capacity". 800 amps for two min is useless. 800 amps for 30 min will get you going. Most batteries don't have that number one them. If the manufacturer doesn't advertise it don't buy it.
Complete rip off. Car batteries are the most recycle product in the World! 98% are recycled and reused including the lead, acid, and plastic. 10 years ago when I worked for Johnson Controls which owns 80% of production, it cost $7.00 to manufacture and deliver.
still confused, my 2012 Audi A5 Quattro battery has the following specs and I'm having a hard time finding a replacement at the chains stores, they can't even get the group number right. 8K0 915 105 D, 12V 380A 80Ah DIN, 640A EN/SAE,
Most starter batteries should never fall below 8v. If the vehicle is not turned over once in a while, and sustains a very low voltage it can slowly do harm the battery.
Yes. Anything below 9 Volts is a severe problem. The battery can withstand that a few times but its very bad for the battery and the starter. It probably means that there is a bad problem that needs to be repaired. That car is probably unreliable.
yeah the battery drained itself twice for a unknown reason we never figured out but it hasn't done it since but yesterday we just got a new battery for it because the cold here in Missouri its gotten down to -26 degrees f one night and the battery just couldn't handle the cold so we got a new one and now it starts and runs just fine now
Batteries have a limited lifespan. Temperature extremes (above 90º F and below 40ºF) shorten the battery's life as does the vibrations from being inside a motor vehicle. A common failure is that vibration causes the plate material to flake off and create short circuits between the plates. If a call is effectively short circuited to another cell then you will not get the voltage from that shorted plate. If one cell is shorted then you 12 volt battery becomes a 10 volt battery. This can continue happening until there is insufficient voltage to spin the starter and fire effective sparks (generally if it falls below 9 volts while cranking then the engine is unlikely to start).
I was debating a friend of mine who said "motorcycle batteries are 12v batterys jus like a 12v car battery the difference is the size not the voltage..you can use a motorcycle battery in a car " i said wtf i dont think so..so before i go any further with this stupidity..is he right?
Wow I'm glad you clarified that for him because I'm sure he didn't know that already. I'm sure he only said it was a side post battery because he didn't see the top posts, not because he was showing OEM batteries come in side post or top post depending on the vehicle
eweryone would have a Ele(c)(t)ronic charg(e)r, it (k)eeps my 5 batteries for 18 years still running good. just charge 2 times a year and check acidlevel. 0,5-1,0 cm above plate . still around 1,20-1,25-1,28 in every cell! lead and acid with removeable top is best, so you can maintain the battery. its a shame to polute the Earth with all wasted battery , when people dont know how to maintane the battery. it will last longer than 5 year, that manufactors and shop will say.
Don't unplug the battery in your car without a obd2 power adapter. This keeps your computer on. If you remove the battery it can wipe all data from the computer. The car may not even Start after. Look it up Scotty Kilmer did a video recently on it
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I wish optima would make higher CCA batteries, forces me to buy walmarts, 1000CCA vs 850CCA, really matters for me I drive a diesel truck. And more AMPS doesn't always mean that it cost more, the walmart battery is the CHEAPEST one, the optima is almost double the cost of for less AMPs, screw that.
You give just the right amount of energy in your presentation . Not over the top annoying or ho hum boring. Great job!
My former employer Johnson Controls Corp. owns 80% of the replacement battery business and acts like a monopoly. They set the price high and the other manufacturers just match it for high profits. Lead Acid batteries are the number 1 recycle product in the World, nearly 100%, so no raw material cost. It cost them, 12 years ago, about $8.00 to build and ship a battery. They manu. Sears Die Hard, Interstate, Optima, Dura Start. Ford OEM., Mercedes OEM. and on and on. They recently went on a huge price gouge. They are a monopoly and buys out competitors.
The original Optima batteries, before being bought by JC last forever. I have some that are 27 years old. The newer ones have a fault built in that causes them to start loosing voltage after 5 years. Built in obsolescence.
I had some original Optimas that didn't last anywhere near forever. Longer than Interstates, but only 6 years or so.
I still have two of the originals in tractors that are 20+ years old! I have another 12 or so in cars and trucks/boats/rv's and none of them last anymore. I bought the later ones based on the performance of the originals.
I wouldn't buy optima anyways, for half the price one can goto walmart and get a battery with more AMPs and able to swap them out all over the place 24/7 compared to paying more of optima with less CCA. Matters for those of us driving diesel trucks that need the AMPs in the cold.
Guess what Johnson Controls also builds most of WalMart's batteries so you are still getting ripped by them.
I have a 05 Chevy blazer with a upgraded alt that fits your silverado 2500 ... AD-244 140 amp @ idle which is 50 or 60 amps more then my old stock I no longer have dimming headlights with say the radio and AC on I have had many batteries feeling out what is good and bad... My 2 cents..Just buy whatever you want ..aslong as it has a min 5 year warranty and Try your best to get a battery no older then 6 months old I would even Leave the walmart for another one if they have older batts ...My battery is a maxx everstart 8 months now ..no issues and thats with Canadian -40c and F weather
brian you have the gift of making car info so easy to understand .. thanks
This is glorious, I have been researching "rejuvenating car batteries" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Ammaceen Reconditioning Rabblement - (should be on google have a look ) ? Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my co-worker got great success with it.
I know I'm knit picking here but you only have one battery not 6. The individual groups of plates are called cells. You have 6 cells which come together to form a battery of cells.
Brian, Your videos are always thorough, entertaining, and well presented. Thanks!
It may not always be an easy repair on your car. Take the Dodge avenger and Chrysler Sebring for example. The battery is located in the driver side wheel well meaning you have to put the car up on stands to remove a battery. AGM batteries, although more expensive, have better warranties as well. And they're great for luxury cars due to their larger reserve capacity. And although disconnecting the battery when it's not used, won't stop the battery from losing it's charge. Any rechargeable battery will lose it's charge over time and should be charged periodically even when not in use, hence the use of a battery tender. Some even have a quick disconnect adapter for those hard to reach batteries.
If your car has an ECM (computer), I'd shy away from installing a quick disconnect adapter. The computer, radio, clock, etc. need the battery power all the time. Be careful with those trickle chargers too. Ones, like the one shown in the video have a tendency to overcharge and even destroy a battery over extended use. They are usually set with a too high cutoff voltage. What they do is cycle on and off. Typically bring battery voltage up to around 14.5, then cut off, wait till the battery gets down to around 13.5 then kicks back in. I had one of these on one of my boat battery once during off season (about 8 months). When I went to start the boat next season, engine woudn't crank! Found out the float charger burn't up the battery! I may still use this charger, but only leave on my boat battery for about a week, wait 2 months, put back on for a week. That seems to work out ok.
You are right trickle chargers especially the cheap ones everyone has have bad reps for ruining batteries.
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Battery Tender is the best
Mostly newer BMW/Mercedes to stay away from the quick adapters. The modern ones losing electrical connection will cause a lot of faults that can only be cleared by the dealer. But even regular cars in the past twenty years, the computer learns your throttle application for best efficiency at low throttle levels. This can take several hundred miles for the system to learn. Once you disconnect, the car may feel different, and not necessarily in a good way. This is why when dealers change batteries, they usually put a temporary battery pack online to ensure the memory buffers are kept intact.
I have that same schumacher charger - hate it! Spent the money on a Battery Tender jr. and really like it. Bought three more for mower, bike, atv
You can't go to high in the CCA rating. If your engine doesn't need the extra capacity it simply won't use it. Where an extra high CCA rating is extremely useful is in cold weather starting. A higher CCA rating means you can start your engine reliably more times that day, before failing because you have the extra standby capacity. I have see batteries with low CCA fail to start an engine in very cold winter temperatures where my neighbor could not start their car at all. My car parked right next to them started my car normally and then jump started several neighbors who could not start their car. I then drove several very short distances (not long enough to charge my battery), shut off and restarted my car easily each time (the temperatures were 35 degrees below zero Fahrenheit that winter). That is why I always get the battery with the highest CCA rating that will fit my car. It costs more but I can always start my car reliably (it only takes one breakdown for you ti regret buying a cheaper battery).
I put an 800 CCA Optima in my little Polaris UTV.... It starts real good now.
Those of us that drive diesels know all to well, add on top of cranking a high compression engine the drain of glow plugs and/or grid heaters.
Walmart carries the best battery and cheapest for my application and since I have to buy 2 of them when I change batteries they are 1000CCA each, crappy optima don't make them that strong.
The battery I am replacing is a 800 cca, that's what was in the car when a family member gifted me the vehicle. I now need a new battery and living in Florida I was told I don't need another 800, a 300 to 500 would be suffient.
thank goodness for you. this video was so helpful as we're just about to buy our first replacement battery. so many thanks!
Don't use a disconnect with a modern car. The onboard computer systems need a continuous source of very low amperage power to retain programming.
Yeah I'm surprised he even mentioned one of those. Not to mention on many cars you'll loose the radio functionality until you can find and plug in the code. Then have to reset all your favorite stations again.
my 2014 verano had battery removed for 3 days, no battery in car at all. put in New battery and no issues at all with the computer etc or radio.
He mentioned that for cars that don't run often enough, not for your daily
What happens to the computers when you use this disconnector?
Never use a mechanical disconnect on newer vehicles. You will lose your driveability memory in the ecm. Therefore relearn procedure is necessary for the vehicle to run correctly. Other issues - IM test, DTC, etc. Use a battery maintainer. If you have a large battery drain, get it diagnosed, or it can lead to other costly repairs.
naoki matsushima. He was, I think, talking about cars that are not driven that much...less than ten times per year, I assume.
had no issues with my Buick verano that had no battery in it for days. New battery installed, started right up and no issues at all.
Very well directed, created, animations, and graphics. I have seen a lot of how-to videos and this is one of the best. Thank you! off to go buy a new battery.
Thank you, always nice to have a refresh over the details!
Fairly accurate description, the sure fire way to make your battery last for many years is simply to ensure it remains above 12.5 volts at all times, just buy and use a battery maintainer/tender.
Great script, great delivery.
Gel has best tolerance to vibration. AGM starting battery plus deep cycle gel, same as in my boat!
Cheers mate,I'm not the sharpest knife in the draw when it comes to machanical issues,but you actually taught me how to go buy my new battery thank you
Superb explanation. Not condescending but good and factual.
JSYK: Johnson Controls sold-off its Power Solutions division back in 2018/2019 to Brookfield Business Partners, and has become Clarios.
Also, Toyota has been using OEM batteries from Johnson Controls since roughly around 2013, and are probably still using them with Clarios. Toyota has previously used OEM batteries from Panasonic (formerly Matsushita Electrical Industrial International), including in around 2009.
Sears has sold its DieHard brand to Advance Auto Parts, and their batteries are now made by Clarios. To market the announcement, they hired Bruce Willis, and you can guess what & why.
Here is what I learned as to why Auto Batteries have a short life.
While in the store, I decided to pop off the caps of the new battery, to inspect the electrolyte levels.
The first battery was so low that 1 of the cells had no acid above the plates.
On the second and third batteries, I found them equally deficient.
Having studying Automotive Technology at a Public Technical School, I knew what the remedy was.
After Sears installed the new battery, I went to my local NAPA auto store and spent an additional $13.00 for 32 Oz. container of battery acid aka sulfuric acid.
It took almost 8 Oz. to bring the levels to the bottom of the fill ring.
That was in August, 2013, and the battery is just showing signs of failure.
Recently while in Walmart, I inspected several EverStart Maxx fluid levels, and discovered the same thing.
So, why does the factory not fill them to the lower ring?
Because, if they did, some of the electrolyte would spill out, especially when moved with a Forklift.
This dudes legit. Great teacher
Very clear explanations. Thanks. Anthony
Very nice explanation and like that negative battery clip idea
very informative and understandable demonstration on batteries 10/10
The BEST vid I have seen Fast, breezy and very informative, However, he admits his chemistry is weak. My question is; what is the moving force? What force starts the whole process? , Is it somehow ignited? Is it spontaneous ?? Thank you
People always say that you should buy the most expensive battery you can so the battery won't fail and leave you stranded. But guess what, all batteries will eventually fail. You can make them last longer by taking care of them (keep them full of water if they are not sealed and don't completely deplete them if they are not deep cell batteries) but one day they will leave you stranded. A more expensive battery might give you a little more time but expensive batteries are still just ticking time bombs. So I say buy the battery with the best cost per warranty time. If you can double the warranty for less than twice the cost then go for it. But after the warranty is up, keep checking your battery and expect to need a new one sooner or later.
You should have mentioned that a disconnected battery will discharge/lose charge by itself eventually.
Oh will it? What's the point of the disconnector then?
Sagar Rao "eventually"... Especially if left sitting on concrete. Someone with more knowledge might pop in with the science about that.
That disconnect at the end. Every time that is used the Car Computer will reset. That means if you are going to get an inspection, your car will fail because the computer needs at least 60 miles driven on it to be recorded in the memory. Maybe the newer model cars having a back up for the computer, but as far as older cars, it's not recommended.
Brian, I read that a hybrid plug in 12V battery doesn't last as long because the battery doesn't start the car and the battery doesn't get a fast discharge on a normal basis. I see a recommendation of putting it on a tender regularly to resolve the issue of film formation on the plates. The recommendation does not come with an explanation on the science. Is the recommendation true?
Disconnecting the battery (through a device or the old fashioned way) doesn't help with self-discharge though, which can lead to sulfation and cause early battery failure as well. Connecting to a proper float charger does, and even if the battery isn't installed at the time, drastically improves it's life-cycle and shelf-life. Plus, you won't lose your radio presets and clock, or whatever... lol
Biggest scams are warrantys for a battery. Bought a battery last month. Was 7 years old. Seller said I should buy a warranty as most batteries are not good after 3 years. I picked up my new battery and said ....... No thanks my last battery lasted 7 years.... I will take my chances! I swear anything to take more $ from you.
just clear and understandable
Good explanation 👍🏾
Good job
Explained so well
Well done, thanks
Best car battery video
2:35 - Two guys don't want to die of bad lungs, two guys taking their chances! xD
Very good! Thanks!
Awesome video!!
ironically they go out just 1-2 months after replacement warranty expires.
That's not ironic, that's calculated.
Hey can I ask?
If you make the mistake of putting the (-) terminal on the (+) side of the battery, will your car lights still go on?
Great video ! Thanks
So, a deep cycle is NOT a lead-acid or AGM? Or does the deepcycle and starting battery two differant categories that can be either lead-acid or AGM?
Very informative . From Cyprus
Good video overall but there's one small issue. Crank amps and cold crank amps are measurements of discharge rates, not capacity. Discharge rates are a measure of how much power can come out for a period of time, typically continuous OR bursts of 10-30 seconds, and capacity is a measurement of how much power the battery can actually hold, which is measured in Ah- amps per hour. Crank amps are most likely burst ratings.
CCA is a burst rating, and since Automotive batteries are normal used to just start the car, is that Burts that we car about (especially the its cold out).
Great video 👍
Don't use a disconnect on any car made after 2003, some cars need to go to the dealer to get reprogrammed after a flat battery.
Great video! What about lithium car batteries?
how do i know i can use a different car battery ? Even if it fit i want to make sure that it's ok for me to use it ?The car battery is called a ever start side post battery i thought about putting it in a 2000 saturn car or a 2002 chevy impala ?
If you replace a 12 volt car battery with another 12 car battery it will work. Here is what to watch out for. Make sure that the terminals are the same and in the same order (left to right or right to left); does it fit the space correctly (it must not be too big or two small or the bracket will not hold the battery in place and you will break the battery); does to have the same capacity (or more) than the factory recommendation (i.e. the same or more CCA is good, less is not good).
Its not so easy to replace a battery on a Jaguar XF because the battery control module needs to be reset via the OBDII port and diagnostics. Its a pain because if you don't do it, the car won't charge the battery properly and will keep giving a low battery warning on the media display. A real pain!
I once met someone out camping and he had his tv hooked up to a car battery. How can I do that ? I would like to do that with my fan also ?
Legend cheers mate! Just changed a battery and it’s interesting to learn about them.
that mechanical disconnect valve seems too much work. it would be simpler to just add a fixed breaker switch on cable couple inches from post and mounted to the side while still connect so one can just flip/open the circuit.
If polarity in switched can I reverse install ie say with the stick to the back
From personal experiance, do not use one of those disconnect devices he showed. I had one on my truck in San Diego to keep my truck from being stolen. They have a tendency to vibrate loose under normal condition causing your battery to not charge. It even worse when your driving and your engine quits running due to now current flow.
BE WARNED, STAY AWAY!
can u olz give me some advice. if i bus 2 xs batteries but dnt install until 2 months will it damage or still b any good
That optima has top and side post...
That's because it's designed to replace both group 75 and 86 batteries.
Cooley Supports Optima and so will I.
could i use a deep cycle battery as my accessory battery in my nissan leaf?
this is really great info. video
Great video to explain these starter batteries. I get a Lithium for my electric cars so I don't have any toxic LEAD. It's one of the worst pollution in the world. We took it out of paint and even gas why not car stater batteries. I use Ohmmu.com They last 3 or more times longer ,they are half the weight.
The new Hyundai IONIQ Blue is the 1st automaker OEM lithium starter battery.
My XS power d3100 has 1360+ ca and 1100+ cca it's a beast but at 80lbs it's heavy
We don't have power written like that here in Europe, or at least Romania, here it's normal Ah and shortcircuit current - so I can have a 60Ah battery with 500A cranking current. Nothing about temperatures.
Nice informative video... thanks
I HAVE A QUESTION CAN YOU PLEASE REPLY IF YOU HAVE TIME?
ACTUALLY I WAS WONDERING IF I CAN HOOD TWO BATTERIES TOGETHER, ONE IS 12V ACID NORMAL TRADITIONAL BATTERY AND ANOTHER ONE IS 12V DEEP CYCLE OPTIMA YELLOW TOP BATTERY. IS IT SAFE TO DO THAT FOR LONGER PERIODS?
MANY THANKS AND ADVANCE..
Not a good idea. The batteries will not charge correctly since they take a recharge at different rates. You should always use 2 like batteries that are the same age.
I agree, the two different constructions require different charging. You can easily boil off the electrolyte in one battery while the second one is still not fully charged, and you could have a situation where one battery is at a higher charge level so it will discharge to charge the lower battery.
if you plow get a optima ...spend the extra you will be glad you did..all that vibration kills a regular battery quicker..i found out the hard way.
working shlub Their quality has gone WAY downhill
Nice video!!!
in my country salesman doesn't ask what these part numbers, they just ask which car model and just give you the battery for that model.
Some people do alternator deletes and get a deep cycle battery
Can I use deep cycle battery to start my car?
My 2014 civic si's battery went out after 4 years, during the 4th year if it was colder than 50°f it couldnt start the car without being jumped
Accurate description of batteries.
thanks a lot
Quick question
My cars recommended battery is 480cca, can i use a 600cca battery instead? Thanks
Yes.
In Japan they've dumbed down the battery buying process.
There's no amps, chemistry or anything like that, they only have the mileage and years ratings, the higher of those two the "better" the battery is supposed to be.
What about lithium types of batteries?
Why you didn't mention anything about new gen dry batteries???
"much less harsh winter weather" 0deg's is a mild spring day in Canada land
Brian its awesome :)
What does the easy or quick disconnect have to do with the charger going on fire?
Joseph Wohlfarth. It takes the charger off line. No power or current flow.
People always forget to consider if the existing battery is still covered under warranty.
The most important number is the "resurve capacity". 800 amps for two min is useless. 800 amps for 30 min will get you going.
Most batteries don't have that number one them. If the manufacturer doesn't advertise it don't buy it.
Those agm Optima batteries are so damn expensive I guess now on they're going make us buy those
Reynaldo Cardoza If you want a quality AGM buy a x2power. Best on the market. But only if your application requires it. Cheers
Yeah, you pack a lot in a short period of time. Which is great.
119 Thumbs down, from 119 unknowledgeable idiots! Great video and explanation, thank you!
Witch is better de óptima or Odissey ?🤔
Edgar Rodriguez Deka battery
so why is a BMW battery over $500?
High capacity AGM technology and BMW markup.
yogibearstie because bmw is a crock and wants to continue taking your money, thats pretty much it.
Complete rip off. Car batteries are the most recycle product in the World! 98% are recycled and reused including the lead, acid, and plastic. 10 years ago when I worked for Johnson Controls which owns 80% of production, it cost $7.00 to manufacture and deliver.
If you're dumb enough to buy a BMW, you're dumb enough to buy a $500 battery.
As said, if you're stupid enough to buy a new car you'll happily pay through the ass for spare parts for it.
still confused, my 2012 Audi A5 Quattro battery has the following specs and I'm having a hard time finding a replacement at the chains stores, they can't even get the group number right. 8K0 915 105 D, 12V 380A 80Ah DIN, 640A EN/SAE,
DIN Battery Group Size Designation H5/LN2 looks to be the one for your model
Billy Bob thanks for the response
no scotland we call it called left or right
Was the battery damaged in my moms car if the voltage went all he way down to about 4.3 volts?
Most starter batteries should never fall below 8v. If the vehicle is not turned over once in a while, and sustains a very low voltage it can slowly do harm the battery.
Yes. Anything below 9 Volts is a severe problem. The battery can withstand that a few times but its very bad for the battery and the starter. It probably means that there is a bad problem that needs to be repaired. That car is probably unreliable.
the battery drained just overnight and the next morning nothing in the car would turn on and it did this twice but it has not happened since
yeah the battery drained itself twice for a unknown reason we never figured out but it hasn't done it since but yesterday we just got a new battery for it because the cold here in Missouri its gotten down to -26 degrees f one night and the battery just couldn't handle the cold so we got a new one and now it starts and runs just fine now
Batteries have a limited lifespan. Temperature extremes (above 90º F and below 40ºF) shorten the battery's life as does the vibrations from being inside a motor vehicle. A common failure is that vibration causes the plate material to flake off and create short circuits between the plates. If a call is effectively short circuited to another cell then you will not get the voltage from that shorted plate. If one cell is shorted then you 12 volt battery becomes a 10 volt battery. This can continue happening until there is insufficient voltage to spin the starter and fire effective sparks (generally if it falls below 9 volts while cranking then the engine is unlikely to start).
I was debating a friend of mine who said "motorcycle batteries are 12v batterys jus like a 12v car battery the difference is the size not the voltage..you can use a motorcycle battery in a car " i said wtf i dont think so..so before i go any further with this stupidity..is he right?
Yes. You can use a motorcycle battery in a car, if it meets the right specs.
Roadshow Thanx ..need a temporary fix!
It's actually a dual terminal battery. But great video. Thanks
Wow I'm glad you clarified that for him because I'm sure he didn't know that already. I'm sure he only said it was a side post battery because he didn't see the top posts, not because he was showing OEM batteries come in side post or top post depending on the vehicle
When humanity went from mechanical to electrical applience, they shot themselves in the foot..😎
The secret to massive battery life is a Battery Tender Junior.
lamewarrior Or any microprocessor based trickle charger/maintainer.
eweryone would have a Ele(c)(t)ronic charg(e)r, it (k)eeps my 5 batteries for 18 years still running good. just charge 2 times a year and check acidlevel. 0,5-1,0 cm above plate . still around 1,20-1,25-1,28 in every cell! lead and acid with removeable top is best, so you can maintain the battery. its a shame to polute the Earth with all wasted battery , when people dont know how to maintane the battery. it will last longer than 5 year, that manufactors and shop will say.
Stay away from optima. made in Mexico now. quality of the paste has gone way down..used to be amazing battery's when made in Colorado.
Don't unplug the battery in your car without a obd2 power adapter. This keeps your computer on. If you remove the battery it can wipe all data from the computer. The car may not even Start after. Look it up Scotty Kilmer did a video recently on it
forgot so many kinds of batteries. lithium. capacitors. ans so on
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I wish optima would make higher CCA batteries, forces me to buy walmarts, 1000CCA vs 850CCA, really matters for me I drive a diesel truck. And more AMPS doesn't always mean that it cost more, the walmart battery is the CHEAPEST one, the optima is almost double the cost of for less AMPs, screw that.
There are also specialty AMG batteries such as Kinetik and XS Power.
Aren't those deep cycle batteries since they are for car audio? Thanks for that though.