I think the best way for them to handle the skin is to have multiple options to purchase it which could very well be how they handle it. It’s worded “outfit store” They can have a panel for outright cash purchase equating to lunite cost. Then, another panel for the total lunite cost for people who saved up their lunite through repeatable monthly pass purchases or top ups (double included).
I agree that they should just set up their cash shop to be "item you want to buy : dollar price for it" instead of doing the usual hocus pocus made up currency conversion but sadly the usual method works and leads to higher yield that's why a lot of companies do use it. On the bright side it's Kuro games so maybe just maybe there's room to cope
This is exactly how monetization systems work. You add items, that you can buy using special currency, and you add packs of currency. And amount of currency you can buy during one transaction must be slightly more, then you spend for items. So some amount of special currency will left on your account, and you should buy more to spend what you have.
i hope the devs see this before 2.0 comes out so the people who want to purchase this skin will just have to spend the exact amount of the discounted price
@@Squashua2727 nope. Skins are priced in Lunites, not Astrites. Still if you are living in the USA, you can use your monthly Samsung Store coupon. Shame that it's only for them, but literally every month you can purchase Daily pass for $1 and $99 pack for $50.
This is fair. Still not sure how they are handling the purchase though? I think we have to wait and see how they allow you to purchase it. Don’t see how they wouldn’t allow that though.
@@GachaSmack07 It'll be exclusively through Lunite from my understanding. There is no dollar amount for this skin, else they would have specified in the post.
WuWa should set the standard for skins moving forward. Different particl effects, Banner theme, Profile theme, Weapon theme, Special effects, new idle animations and unique voice lines in the skin. Hell maybe even a unique ult animation. I would be more than willing to spend for that. And based on what I saw in the leaks. This has potential. This is what I will say in the surveys too. Help me out here y'all.
Not really considering Nikke gives 2 multis, rocks for end game gear, and a few other rare mats. Saying it’s just a skin for 60 is disingenuous. They’re both expensive. But it’s your money and your choice.
@@2girls1Jaytrue but I also want to point out that this skin comes with: The skin itself. Custom sfx Custom vfx Weapon skin Custom banner Custom Sigil
There's a fixated duration of the livestream and they thought it wasn't worth adding it in over other stuff in which case makes sense because well... there's a whole ass trailer dedicated to it only
If they included it during the livestream you would not be talking about it right now or the game. The livestream was in itself enough hype at the moment, and now you have a little rebound of hype, specialy for people that were interested in the skin.
The weapon projection also means that you don’t actually have to own her sig for it to look that way, since it’ll just override the look of every weapon you put on her. It’s linked to that new weapon customization feature added in 1.4.
Any players which have been buying and saving the Lunite Subscription since launch will have reached exactly 2700 lunites during 2.0. I doubt it’s a coincidence that the skin is pretty much the same price 🎉
For majority of the players tbf this skin prize is going to be around $20 because of the 2x top up bonus.. moreover if they have been buying monthly all this time and saving up lunarite.. its like a free skin for them.. some of the smart one already deduce to save up lunarite and not converting to astrites.. only pure whale did that..
at this point they should just straight up sell the resonators too, why would you be paying for the bundle when the resonator it's for is still locked? also for Europe it's 34.99€ if the bonus is included, without one, the outfit is 60€
Yea this game has been absurdly generous since launch, I haven’t topped up once and I have s1r1 jinshi, r1 yinlin, s2 shorekeeer, zhezhi, a bunch standard units and weapons, and I’m sitting on 35k gems rn. Enough to get Carlotta s2r1 if I want, but I might just get s0 and try to get more variety. I already clear the hazard tower easily on just $5 pass. Point is many player since launch still have the top up bonus unless you went for every unit and sequences. I usually try really hard not to top up but Kuro has done such a great job with 2.0 i might reward them with a top up for jinshi skin. I literally don’t even need the gems 😂
@@RavenShugo just saying but top up reset is usually every year.. and with monthly ongoing you have multiple ways to save up lunarite.. so my point is still the same there.. that is how majority will get in term of price.. only the whale get the full brunt of the price but for majority.. no
@@GJGamingBro selling characters is not how gacha game operate tho.. so cosmetic only.. if you can directly just buy everything with money with no gambling than it will no longer be gacha
If you've been buying the monthly subscriptions since launch, you can also use those lunites to purchase the skin, so using lunite to pay is still a better option vs using straight money.
I've done this myself. I have had 1400 since I've stacked them up since launch. Just need a little bit more via also monthly subs. I have not touched the directly buy lunite screen at all. 👍
You can buy monthly pass up to 180 days and you get 300 lunite each monthly pass so 6 x 300 u get 1800 total and then you top up abit more to get the skin.
For those of us who play PGR we were expecting peak skins in WuWa and are not surprised at all by the quality of Jinshi's skin. There's going to be many more to come. Kuro skins are just on another level. I don't like to say this since i also like hoyo games, but hoyo could never.
I'm really glad that kuro started releasing skins for wuwa. It's much better option than spamming new characters like there's no tomorow and causing serious powercreep.
Unless you haven’t bought those packs yet, in which case you’d be able to buy the non discounted version for a lower price because of doubled returns. 2:19 But yeah skin panel would be ideal.
Compare this to other gacha games, I think the price is pretty fair. This is much better than every single Genshin skin, plus you can also get weapon skin, sigils, and profile pic. A good skin in Nikke costs you $60, and it is a 2d game.
The new skin also give new skill animation effects like fireworks and cherry blossom besides the color pallette! You are correct. I am picking up this skin for sure!
With what the skin comes with it’s on par with legendary skins ($15) in league of legends. I’d say max I’d pay for it is $25-$35. That being said, the animations and models on these characters are way more complex including everything else it comes with. Plus if you’re buying monthly thing regularly and saving the lunite it’s essentially pretty damn cheap.
I get where you are coming from with the panel, but problem for me for example is I saved enough premium currency from my monthly passes for the Skin already. So If they make a panel I have to spend more money in the end.
He is talking about a panel that sell the exact number of lunite for the skin. So basicaly a panel that cost something like 42$ for exactly 2680 Lunite instead of having to buy multiple little pack or the big one with some extra. That doesnt change anything for you, the skin will still be purchased with Lunite no matter where it comes from.
I love how there's a part of the community shocked that it cost 2680 lunites but if you think about it, that cost less than 20 pulls. Reality check, gacha games are expensive, even this game cost alot if you want to get everything, you need 160 pulls for a guaranteed character and it's not like you have 160 pulls spare for every banner
If you were buying the monthly since day 1 and didn't spend the lunite you are on 2100 rn, maybe even 2400, then you can wait another month and you have enough. I bet a lot more people than you think will be able to easy afford it.
@@RavenShugo Most live service games do this not just gacha games. From FPS to moba and to gacha games. People with money to burn buy anything even overpirced shit skins. 100 dollars for a weapon skin for example.
@@Vice1098 you missing the point. In these other games you get all heroes for FREE, so having expensive skins have some logical basis. But in gacha you need 1k-2k$ to fully unlock the hero, so asking premium price tag for skins is absurd. And then example of addicts overspending is not a NORM. That's a problem in videogames, not a standard.
As of now, the only character I'd buy a skin for would be Changli. She's absolutely my main character. Yinlin is also glued to my run around team, but her base look is so good I'd only buy in for an "Oops, I forgot my underwear" costume, and Kuro isn't doing that. This is a quality skin, so I give them props.
i came form a 3rd world country yes its expensive for me but. i always put myself on the first world country mindset when in comes to skins and yea 35-50 dollars for that is a good price. (im buying btw)
I think it can be like GFL2, like where you currently raise character affections to get exclusive portrait frames, titles etc. Wuwa can definitely implement something similar except maybe also have dedicated character skins. So players who use specific chars a lot get rewarded in the long run.
Personally, I feel like they could have gone the Girls Frontline 2 way and just post the price amount (or at least offer that option), so that it simplifies purchase. Especially for those with a tight budget.
… folks, y’all are being ridiculous with rationalizing the prices for skins in games. I understand the work that goes into them, but these shouldn’t be anymore than $2-$3 at most. It’s a skin. I hate saying back in my day, but you know what I’m going to say with that. Just know, y’all are willingly getting scammed at this point. $35 is ridiculous.
Trust me when I say this Smack, Kuro cook's with there skin. Like their other game PGR makes majority of its revenue through skins, and with the skin system I assume they are going to have the system that PGR has which, allows the astrite to be used as a currency to buy the skin. In other words you can either use your astrite to get a character or get a skin or just buy it by pullin that card. Anyways because, the gameplay looks has changed, this would be considered as a premuim skin, and sooner or later Kuro will once in awhile give us a free skin like the Sanhua skin for free, which doesn't change the way her gameplay looks but hey a skin is a skin. I cannot wait for Kuro to cook with their skins like they did with PGR. Yes Kuro will give every single 5 star character a premuim skin, which I assume they would also start from now or in the near feature in which, they are going to drop the premuim skins alongside with the new 5 star limited characters. Lastly yes they are most likely going to also have a rerun, just as they do for PGR. So you don't need to feel pressure when you miss out on the skin for your favourite character. I hope this helps for anyone that had read this far. God bless ya'll.
Nahhh that still overpriced, even as a league played since 2013 and buying many skins. Argument for pulsefire ezreal i can see which cost like 3250 RP (Around $30 USD) but even then that skin is technically considered a more "expensive" skin compared to most of the league skins. Average skins usually cost around 975 to 1350 which $10.99 USD gives 1390 RP. So yes I still think its pricey. Even if someone does compare it to other gacha games, i mean it is gacha games usually its expensive, been playing gacha games since Brave Frontier and Summoners war era.
Another really nice thing about the weapon Projection is that if you don't have her signature weapon the projection should be able to be applied to any broadsword which is really nice. Doesn't make you feel like moneys getting wasted if you missed the weapon.
League of legends really is the gold standard for skin value in my opinion in general. (disregarding the odd Ahri skin at 500) Shame that Gachas are selling us updated textures for even more than Legendaries in league... A joke really. Lets not even forget that League makes ALL its revenue from cosmetics, unlike gachas that make 99% their revenue from pulls lol. they 100% could sell skins for WAY less and make great bank but dont because greed... Jinhsi looks great here but not 60$CAD great gotta be honest
My takes : - I consider it a miss that they didn't change the animations, at least the idle ones. - The only thing I'm worried about rn is that if my favs won't get skins because they're not as famous.. I need my PGR gang to let me know. I'm ready to break f2p for a Jiyan skin man - I think it would make sense to make high-quality skins for older characters when they're relevant again in stories and events regardless of the popularity - I believe that every limited character should get a paid skin to get the full value of all the players cause even if a skin didn't bring as much money as another, a lot are ready to pay specifically and only for their favorite characters. - I hope skins are also related to the characters' lore and not just some random stuff like a maid dress or smth lol
Oh it looks like they added flowers to the ends of her ponytails. Now she looks less like Noelle from black clover, but I'm still going to get the skin.
Everything that GachaSamck mentioned here is already implemented on Girls Frontline 2, purchasing through direct pay, or premeum currnecy for those that have it, so I would expect this to be how they do it.
Unfortunately its way too expensive for me. I'll keep the og design. These skins could have been easily combined with the more expensive pioneer podcast. Then I think they could have increased it to 40-45$. Paying with Lunites is just a waste. All in all Jinhsis skin is absolutely gorgeous gj as always kuro games!
Good idea! I think 40-45 USD could be a good price for it. And imagine you could choose your favorite skin in pioneer podcast if there are more skins in the game. That would be sick.
Seriously, who buys the expensive $20 version? This has almost no added value, so you really have a good reason to buy this version. But that will never happen😂🥲 They urgently need to improve the Battle Pass.
Would still be better than what they want. Who buys so many Lunites for a skin? I'll do the Monthly Pass trick, even if it takes forever to get a skin...
Nah 30-35 USD is utopia bro. 45-50 USD is more realistic. But I agree, this would be more useful. Or they give us a jinhsi bundle for 30-35 USD. I mean they have also pull bundles so why not skins bundles too?
I would never speed $30 for a skin. I'd just buy a new game or something instead. But for those who are willing, it does help financially support the live service game, so it's very much appreciated if someone really wants it and can afford it.
Maybe is because I have an MMO and fps background, but seeing a skin is like, cool, anyways... I get that this gives a fresh touch to the character, but so much content around it is a first to me.
Told you guys the skins gonna prices shit biscuitly high. People should keep their expectation in check. Kuro has always made it clear with how they do their monetization's. They always make the skins real expensive. And it looks like its gonna 3280 lunite which is 50 freedom bucks. I really hope people don't lose their shit over this. But I still think the price is a high. It should have been 30 and discounted to 20 or 15. People should voice their opinion in a constructive way and with their wallet. Please do not hate on it too much.
It is $42 with discount and $50 with no discount, this does not include the 2x bonus. Very expensive for just a skin in my opinion, especially when you compare the prices/quality to GFL2 skins. Which are $20, and you can buy them straight instead of having to buy gacha currency like Genshin and WuWa.
Can't really compare though Gfl 2 doesn't play the same like WuWa, also your not seeing new special effects on all your attacks, only new ult animation, and some new idles, and new profile picture it better to compare it to something like genshin, it also $21 with discount and 2x top up
@@neptineauras6879 I’m comparing the quality of the skins, which Genshin doesn’t even come close to the level of quality of GFL2, PGR, WuWa, or Hi3. There are some effect changes in GFL2, but like you said, it isn’t every attack, just like 2 skills. And I know Jinhsi has lanterns, flower petals and new pink effects, but I can’t see it being enough to justify the additional $20~$30 when comparing them to GFL2. Maybe new voicelines, completely redone ult animations (like GFL2), and a special skin for Jue the echo could justify spending that much money for a skin. This is all still my opinion, though.
After looking at the drip marketing vs the trailer and game play videos I def wish she had more pink. I fell in love with the crazy amount of pink she had in the marketing photo, I could do with less pink but her outfit needs more light pink in my opinion. I’m still gonna be swiping for this as a jinhsi main
Does she spawn a cherry blossom tree in 3rd E animation (like a actual tree model)? anyway the flying lantern and fireworks on top of everything, look amazing
Tbh the skin didn't impress me much. The most I could give it is 8.1/10 and from what I have seen from other games that definitely doesn't look like a PREMIUM SKIN. No hate tho
Nah bro I am not paying nothing over 20 for a skin it looks sweet but considering the characters coming in 2.0 I rather spend that money on them and will actually benefit my account but it does look sweet maybe it will go on sale later on and will probably pick it up then.
Welcome to micro-transactions and video game cosmetics where companies have been continuously upping the prices and it works out because they can and know people will go for it regardless!
@@KrakenZzz123I mean liveservice games in general have ridiculous pricing for these, also if you think about it the skin cost like 20 pulls for a whale or a spender so it's not really much for them
Fun fact, as of patch 2.0, WuWa will have as many premium skins as Genshin Impact. I hope they actually continue releasing premium and standard skins at a regular pace.
I really wish they can incorporate a system for the costumes for gems or items or more crystals. I have a talk about the concept, another game has 20$ for unlock a costume but it rewards you or pulls, items, and materials to unlock more characters. Then there’s the unpopular opinion, the damn gacha skins, that rewards you but if your luck bad, max is 60$
If you've been buying the monthly pass (which is what you should be buying if you're ever gonna spend at all) then the skin is effectively free from the already saved up Lunite.
Now I want individual Rover skin for each region, for free And give us a variation of regular character models for max friendship And then Changli naked skin but like she has to have full stacks and then she has pasties on her shi, and when you ult they burn away on her sillhouette so you can kinda tell the shape from the lighting but it isn't shown entirely, that can cost however much they ask
How do I unpackaged this. You hit me in the feels with the pulse fire Esreal skin mention! I'm not gonna lie, PGR would make basic and epic skins together. You get what you pay for with them. Now maybe I'm a penny pincher but I felt $35 was a bit pricey, I know we don't see eye to eye there. HOWEVER, I did purchase a few costumes in PGR so I'm definitely gonna open the wallet and see what they do. I just hope the weapon isn't sold separately. (Wishful thinking) Appreciate you for still sacrificing time for the job even in the wee hours of the morning.
This is fair. Also consider what kind of game this is. You get to freely run around with your new skin and fire off attacks at nothing and just sit back and look at them in the environment. The purchase value of a skin in Wuwa is higher than other games.
Agreed: Direct price would be perfect. I would feel a bit scammed, if i had to use the top-up system for a skin. Also 35+$ for a skin is at least Legendary tier in League if not mythic. I expect a complete overhaul of the characters animations, emotes and even moves at this point without removing the core of the character.
2:47 If you have the 1st time bonus then you can get it for 21 bucks in USD. So i really hope they dont add another panel tbh, cause then itd be extra. You can buy the $15, $5, and $1 as long as you have the 1st time bonus for all 3 then its much better than having 1 panel where you buy it for 35. Hope that made sense, not the best at explaining things 😂
When you already have to pony up around $100 dollars for the character, a skin should be around $10, $20 max. Its also acceptable to have a skin gacha with a reasonable pity, that way you know max cost and it gives f2p an option for getting it if they want to sacrifice some pulls. They absolutely need to just give a real money purchase option if its not gacha, making you buy more in-game currency than you need for something is the oldest, scummiest trick in the mobile gaming book.
I don’t think it’s a bad price and we’ve known the skin was coming for a bit so plenty of time to save. It’s also discounted until 2.1 so less eating out.
I don't think this will get a separate page. The first 3 packages with x2 are exactly 2680 which will cater f2p players and make spenders spend by cocking them with the price points. Tho monthly subscribers are eating good since it will only cost them the equivalent of 20 pulls if they didn't convert.
The price is definitely fair... And it's also way too much for me personally. Looking at it objectively, it's about the cost of a 20 pull which is totally reasonable, but as a Monthly-sign-in-at-most little fish I can only see it as being the same price as like half a year of +20 pulls a month. They did a good job with it though, so I hope it does well.
Personally think it’s an expensive skin but if you’re a low spender you can wilt it down a lot depending on how often you spend your monthly subscription lunite. I personally can buy this skin for 15 dollars for the amount I got saved up. The 5 dollars is used to buy the monthly subscription which I was gonna buy anyway.
God damn, 17 minutes ago is wild. I literally just watched this lmao. Skin looks fire, but I really like the vanilla one tbh. I think I'd be more interested if it was a bigger departure.
Ever-Burning Phoenix Changli Just wanted her to have a what if skin IF she get's engulfed by her inner flame Flame design becomes more darker with violet or purple hue More phoenix feather design I'm just coping
Jinhsi's skin price is not too far off from PGR's premium coating price tags. They do not disappoint when it comes to designing their premium skins. Just search for Alpha Crimson Weave's coatings specially her newest one and oh boy. Personally I won't buy $40-50 skins since I'm broke, but for whales and for those who have extra money to burn for their gacha games? Then I'd probably say it's a fair deal for them to buy the skin
I think the best way for them to handle the skin is to have multiple options to purchase it which could very well be how they handle it.
It’s worded “outfit store”
They can have a panel for outright cash purchase equating to lunite cost.
Then, another panel for the total lunite cost for people who saved up their lunite through repeatable monthly pass purchases or top ups (double included).
Reverse:1999 does that and it feels great, totally agree.
I agree that they should just set up their cash shop to be "item you want to buy : dollar price for it" instead of doing the usual hocus pocus made up currency conversion but sadly the usual method works and leads to higher yield that's why a lot of companies do use it. On the bright side it's Kuro games so maybe just maybe there's room to cope
This is exactly how monetization systems work. You add items, that you can buy using special currency, and you add packs of currency. And amount of currency you can buy during one transaction must be slightly more, then you spend for items. So some amount of special currency will left on your account, and you should buy more to spend what you have.
I agree, ultimately having more options is better for the players.
i hope the devs see this before 2.0 comes out so the people who want to purchase this skin will just have to spend the exact amount of the discounted price
You can actually get this skin for 21$ If you get the 1$/15$/5$ packs
This is taking into account the discounts and bonuses
You can effectively get it for free if you've been buying the $5 30-day, daily login like you should be.
@@Squashua2727 nope. Skins are priced in Lunites, not Astrites. Still if you are living in the USA, you can use your monthly Samsung Store coupon. Shame that it's only for them, but literally every month you can purchase Daily pass for $1 and $99 pack for $50.
@@Squashua2727thats not free
MIght aswell buy the monthly pass instead of the 5$ pack as it gives you 300 aswell and you get 2700 gems over the next month
One thing about the price points, though, is that if you haven't bought the top ups before, you can get it for cheaper with the 1st time double.
This is fair. Still not sure how they are handling the purchase though? I think we have to wait and see how they allow you to purchase it. Don’t see how they wouldn’t allow that though.
you potentially also gathered some amount from buying monthly cards unless you spent that currency too
Yeah, but that's only valuable for the first skin, all the following skins won't have that kind of advantage
@BlAdeZ197 depends on how often they release the 5* skins. Kuro will probably reset the top up bonus in 2.1 or at the 1year anniversary.
@@GachaSmack07 It'll be exclusively through Lunite from my understanding. There is no dollar amount for this skin, else they would have specified in the post.
WuWa should set the standard for skins moving forward. Different particl effects, Banner theme, Profile theme, Weapon theme, Special effects, new idle animations and unique voice lines in the skin. Hell maybe even a unique ult animation. I would be more than willing to spend for that. And based on what I saw in the leaks. This has potential. This is what I will say in the surveys too. Help me out here y'all.
hey dont worry about any of that. We already got all of that in pgr, and (i hope) they will bring them to wuwa eventually.
And after they see the price, they be like "too expensive, this is scam!!"
Heh figures 💀
@@xaero07vsxaero69 So GFL2
Agreed, PGR sfx skins make each character look like whole new/different constructs. And with the gacha skins, they’re barely recognizable 💀
@@tamt3012yea I haven’t played pgr but from what I’ve seen they’ve already set the standard for skins, each skin feels like a new character
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Because a father never stops working
All the more reason to work harder bro😊
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Father is fathering bro
He is working more BECAUSE he’s gonna be a father (again)
black outfit with black flame on Changli? WOULD
would as well. oh scratch that probably "did" already.
0:22 Bro had to double check noone in house heard him💀
Cant blame him
And that grandpa laugh
Congratulations on the lil Smack
Lil smack is funny I love that
Way more fair in price than Nikke's $60 Live2D gacha skins.
Not really considering Nikke gives 2 multis, rocks for end game gear, and a few other rare mats. Saying it’s just a skin for 60 is disingenuous.
They’re both expensive. But it’s your money and your choice.
Dude, I'm shocked when I check the Nikke skin price. I didn't buy any of them 😂
@@2girls1Jaytrue but I also want to point out that this skin comes with:
The skin itself.
Custom sfx
Custom vfx
Weapon skin
Custom banner
Custom Sigil
true, but nikke is one of the worst examples not gonna lie, its a complete scam lol
@ thats good. I’m not trying to devalue it or tell anybody what’s worth and what’s not. I’m just pointing out the misinformation being spread.
Kuro should include all of this in the livestream, it would be more hype tbh.
Why would they if they have been planted to drop her OWN trailer
There's a fixated duration of the livestream and they thought it wasn't worth adding it in over other stuff in which case makes sense because well... there's a whole ass trailer dedicated to it only
@@Wagyube-ef Kuro care too much about our time, if it's high quality content, we wouldn't mind it.
Even Solon himself order his staff cut the yap 2-3 time during that stream 😂😂.
If they included it during the livestream you would not be talking about it right now or the game. The livestream was in itself enough hype at the moment, and now you have a little rebound of hype, specialy for people that were interested in the skin.
The weapon projection also means that you don’t actually have to own her sig for it to look that way, since it’ll just override the look of every weapon you put on her. It’s linked to that new weapon customization feature added in 1.4.
Oml I didn't realize this but that's so true!! Handy for peeps who don't have her weapon which is very considerate of Kuro! Love them for that
Any players which have been buying and saving the Lunite Subscription since launch will have reached exactly 2700 lunites during 2.0.
I doubt it’s a coincidence that the skin is pretty much the same price 🎉
Yep I’m only missing about 600 which isn’t that much money so I’ll pick it up
For majority of the players tbf this skin prize is going to be around $20 because of the 2x top up bonus.. moreover if they have been buying monthly all this time and saving up lunarite.. its like a free skin for them.. some of the smart one already deduce to save up lunarite and not converting to astrites.. only pure whale did that..
at this point they should just straight up sell the resonators too, why would you be paying for the bundle when the resonator it's for is still locked? also for Europe it's 34.99€ if the bonus is included, without one, the outfit is 60€
Yea this game has been absurdly generous since launch, I haven’t topped up once and I have s1r1 jinshi, r1 yinlin, s2 shorekeeer, zhezhi, a bunch standard units and weapons, and I’m sitting on 35k gems rn. Enough to get Carlotta s2r1 if I want, but I might just get s0 and try to get more variety. I already clear the hazard tower easily on just $5 pass.
Point is many player since launch still have the top up bonus unless you went for every unit and sequences. I usually try really hard not to top up but Kuro has done such a great job with 2.0 i might reward them with a top up for jinshi skin. I literally don’t even need the gems 😂
And this price tag will work 1 time. Next skin will be the same price for them as for whales.
@@RavenShugo just saying but top up reset is usually every year.. and with monthly ongoing you have multiple ways to save up lunarite.. so my point is still the same there.. that is how majority will get in term of price.. only the whale get the full brunt of the price but for majority.. no
@@GJGamingBro selling characters is not how gacha game operate tho.. so cosmetic only.. if you can directly just buy everything with money with no gambling than it will no longer be gacha
If you've been buying the monthly subscriptions since launch, you can also use those lunites to purchase the skin, so using lunite to pay is still a better option vs using straight money.
I've done this myself. I have had 1400 since I've stacked them up since launch. Just need a little bit more via also monthly subs. I have not touched the directly buy lunite screen at all. 👍
You can buy monthly pass up to 180 days and you get 300 lunite each monthly pass so 6 x 300 u get 1800 total and then you top up abit more to get the skin.
For those of us who play PGR we were expecting peak skins in WuWa and are not surprised at all by the quality of Jinshi's skin. There's going to be many more to come. Kuro skins are just on another level. I don't like to say this since i also like hoyo games, but hoyo could never.
I'm really glad that kuro started releasing skins for wuwa. It's much better option than spamming new characters like there's no tomorow and causing serious powercreep.
I’m so excited for the skin and I will be swiping for it 😌 but side note only spend/buy for the skin if you can afford it 😌
Unless you haven’t bought those packs yet, in which case you’d be able to buy the non discounted version for a lower price because of doubled returns. 2:19
But yeah skin panel would be ideal.
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Compare this to other gacha games, I think the price is pretty fair.
This is much better than every single Genshin skin, plus you can also get weapon skin, sigils, and profile pic.
A good skin in Nikke costs you $60, and it is a 2d game.
The new skin also give new skill animation effects like fireworks and cherry blossom besides the color pallette! You are correct. I am picking up this skin for sure!
If you want the skin, the most inexpensive way to do is stacking monthly pass
With what the skin comes with it’s on par with legendary skins ($15) in league of legends. I’d say max I’d pay for it is $25-$35. That being said, the animations and models on these characters are way more complex including everything else it comes with. Plus if you’re buying monthly thing regularly and saving the lunite it’s essentially pretty damn cheap.
I get where you are coming from with the panel, but problem for me for example is I saved enough premium currency from my monthly passes for the Skin already. So If they make a panel I have to spend more money in the end.
yeah better just skip the skin
He is talking about a panel that sell the exact number of lunite for the skin. So basicaly a panel that cost something like 42$ for exactly 2680 Lunite instead of having to buy multiple little pack or the big one with some extra.
That doesnt change anything for you, the skin will still be purchased with Lunite no matter where it comes from.
@Atmo-sp no he was talking about a panel where u can just buy it for $ and not for lunite
Having all skins with discounts at anniversary would be great for people who buy monthly passes.
I love how there's a part of the community shocked that it cost 2680 lunites but if you think about it, that cost less than 20 pulls. Reality check, gacha games are expensive, even this game cost alot if you want to get everything, you need 160 pulls for a guaranteed character and it's not like you have 160 pulls spare for every banner
those 20 pull you can get it for free and its new character not some skin.
It’s 21$-45$ USD
Just when I thought wuthering couldn't do any better they drop SKINS???? Double the price I don't care, at this point I will buy just to support Kuro.
Alright alright, lets not get carried away too much 😅
1:35 no, we can't. No joking is allowed in this establishment
If you were buying the monthly since day 1 and didn't spend the lunite you are on 2100 rn, maybe even 2400, then you can wait another month and you have enough. I bet a lot more people than you think will be able to easy afford it.
its crazy how we think that for a skin,35 dollars is a fair price, but for a game,70? oh no that's too much!
Welcome to gacha addicts community. They will rationalize any spendings by compare it to some other gacha game with even higher price tag))
@@RavenShugo Most live service games do this not just gacha games. From FPS to moba and to gacha games. People with money to burn buy anything even overpirced shit skins. 100 dollars for a weapon skin for example.
@@Vice1098 you missing the point. In these other games you get all heroes for FREE, so having expensive skins have some logical basis. But in gacha you need 1k-2k$ to fully unlock the hero, so asking premium price tag for skins is absurd.
And then example of addicts overspending is not a NORM. That's a problem in videogames, not a standard.
As of now, the only character I'd buy a skin for would be Changli. She's absolutely my main character. Yinlin is also glued to my run around team, but her base look is so good I'd only buy in for an "Oops, I forgot my underwear" costume, and Kuro isn't doing that.
This is a quality skin, so I give them props.
i came form a 3rd world country yes its expensive for me but. i always put myself on the first world country mindset when in comes to skins and yea 35-50 dollars for that is a good price.
(im buying btw)
I think it can be like GFL2, like where you currently raise character affections to get exclusive portrait frames, titles etc.
Wuwa can definitely implement something similar except maybe also have dedicated character skins. So players who use specific chars a lot get rewarded in the long run.
A special skin or particle effect at C6 would be dope.
You also get some extra stuff with the skin like the art avatar and sigil card so that is a possible factor in the price too.
I think this is the direction that Wuwa should go. Instead of over power creeping old characters they should just make them more cooler or beautiful
This is a reminder that Wuwa released a character skin before HSR
why release a new skin when you can release it as new character
@ I’ll tell you why and it’s only 1 word. MONEY. Just do both characters and skins and make more money
Personally, I feel like they could have gone the Girls Frontline 2 way and just post the price amount (or at least offer that option), so that it simplifies purchase. Especially for those with a tight budget.
Her new skin makes her look kinda pretty tbh. I have her but always thought she was meh as far as looks but yeah she looks great
… folks, y’all are being ridiculous with rationalizing the prices for skins in games. I understand the work that goes into them, but these shouldn’t be anymore than $2-$3 at most. It’s a skin. I hate saying back in my day, but you know what I’m going to say with that. Just know, y’all are willingly getting scammed at this point. $35 is ridiculous.
It’s not scamming if it’s your choice to spend money on it whale’s already spend more than thousands just to end up losing 50/50s
Cry more,poor man😂😂😂
Trust me when I say this Smack, Kuro cook's with there skin. Like their other game PGR makes majority of its revenue through skins, and with the skin system I assume they are going to have the system that PGR has which, allows the astrite to be used as a currency to buy the skin. In other words you can either use your astrite to get a character or get a skin or just buy it by pullin that card. Anyways because, the gameplay looks has changed, this would be considered as a premuim skin, and sooner or later Kuro will once in awhile give us a free skin like the Sanhua skin for free, which doesn't change the way her gameplay looks but hey a skin is a skin. I cannot wait for Kuro to cook with their skins like they did with PGR.
Yes Kuro will give every single 5 star character a premuim skin, which I assume they would also start from now or in the near feature in which, they are going to drop the premuim skins alongside with the new 5 star limited characters. Lastly yes they are most likely going to also have a rerun, just as they do for PGR. So you don't need to feel pressure when you miss out on the skin for your favourite character. I hope this helps for anyone that had read this far. God bless ya'll.
Nahhh that still overpriced, even as a league played since 2013 and buying many skins. Argument for pulsefire ezreal i can see which cost like 3250 RP (Around $30 USD) but even then that skin is technically considered a more "expensive" skin compared to most of the league skins. Average skins usually cost around 975 to 1350 which $10.99 USD gives 1390 RP. So yes I still think its pricey. Even if someone does compare it to other gacha games, i mean it is gacha games usually its expensive, been playing gacha games since Brave Frontier and Summoners war era.
Another really nice thing about the weapon Projection is that if you don't have her signature weapon the projection should be able to be applied to any broadsword which is really nice. Doesn't make you feel like moneys getting wasted if you missed the weapon.
League of legends really is the gold standard for skin value in my opinion in general. (disregarding the odd Ahri skin at 500) Shame that Gachas are selling us updated textures for even more than Legendaries in league... A joke really. Lets not even forget that League makes ALL its revenue from cosmetics, unlike gachas that make 99% their revenue from pulls lol. they 100% could sell skins for WAY less and make great bank but dont because greed...
Jinhsi looks great here but not 60$CAD great gotta be honest
3:10 I actually agree and that's the most optimal way for them to sell skins.
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My takes :
- I consider it a miss that they didn't change the animations, at least the idle ones.
- The only thing I'm worried about rn is that if my favs won't get skins because they're not as famous.. I need my PGR gang to let me know. I'm ready to break f2p for a Jiyan skin man
- I think it would make sense to make high-quality skins for older characters when they're relevant again in stories and events regardless of the popularity
- I believe that every limited character should get a paid skin to get the full value of all the players cause even if a skin didn't bring as much money as another, a lot are ready to pay specifically and only for their favorite characters.
- I hope skins are also related to the characters' lore and not just some random stuff like a maid dress or smth lol
Oh it looks like they added flowers to the ends of her ponytails. Now she looks less like Noelle from black clover, but I'm still going to get the skin.
Grandpa gooning on skin trailer is something that i never expect 😂
Everything that GachaSamck mentioned here is already implemented on Girls Frontline 2, purchasing through direct pay, or premeum currnecy for those that have it, so I would expect this to be how they do it.
Unfortunately its way too expensive for me. I'll keep the og design. These skins could have been easily combined with the more expensive pioneer podcast. Then I think they could have increased it to 40-45$. Paying with Lunites is just a waste. All in all Jinhsis skin is absolutely gorgeous gj as always kuro games!
Podcast costs $20. For an f2p, this skin costs $21.
Good idea! I think 40-45 USD could be a good price for it. And imagine you could choose your favorite skin in pioneer podcast if there are more skins in the game. That would be sick.
Seriously, who buys the expensive $20 version? This has almost no added value, so you really have a good reason to buy this version. But that will never happen😂🥲 They urgently need to improve the Battle Pass.
Would still be better than what they want. Who buys so many Lunites for a skin? I'll do the Monthly Pass trick, even if it takes forever to get a skin...
Nah 30-35 USD is utopia bro. 45-50 USD is more realistic. But I agree, this would be more useful. Or they give us a jinhsi bundle for 30-35 USD. I mean they have also pull bundles so why not skins bundles too?
I would never speed $30 for a skin. I'd just buy a new game or something instead. But for those who are willing, it does help financially support the live service game, so it's very much appreciated if someone really wants it and can afford it.
hey unc, I think if someone saves 300 lunites every time they buy a subscription, that could be a pretty significant price reduce option.
Maybe is because I have an MMO and fps background, but seeing a skin is like, cool, anyways... I get that this gives a fresh touch to the character, but so much content around it is a first to me.
Congratulations smack on lil boy✨️✨️
Told you guys the skins gonna prices shit biscuitly high. People should keep their expectation in check. Kuro has always made it clear with how they do their monetization's. They always make the skins real expensive.
And it looks like its gonna 3280 lunite which is 50 freedom bucks.
I really hope people don't lose their shit over this. But I still think the price is a high. It should have been 30 and discounted to 20 or 15. People should voice their opinion in a constructive way and with their wallet.
Please do not hate on it too much.
It $21 dollars if you still have 2x top up with discount
It is $42 with discount and $50 with no discount, this does not include the 2x bonus.
Very expensive for just a skin in my opinion, especially when you compare the prices/quality to GFL2 skins. Which are $20, and you can buy them straight instead of having to buy gacha currency like Genshin and WuWa.
Can't really compare though Gfl 2 doesn't play the same like WuWa, also your not seeing new special effects on all your attacks, only new ult animation, and some new idles, and new profile picture it better to compare it to something like genshin, it also $21 with discount and 2x top up
It is $37 and $45 actually if you smart when buying packs of lunite. Still rather expensive
I'm pretty sure it's not just a skin. You can also get a weapon skin and sigil (profile banner) of the sakura themed.
@@neptineauras6879 I’m comparing the quality of the skins, which Genshin doesn’t even come close to the level of quality of GFL2, PGR, WuWa, or Hi3. There are some effect changes in GFL2, but like you said, it isn’t every attack, just like 2 skills. And I know Jinhsi has lanterns, flower petals and new pink effects, but I can’t see it being enough to justify the additional $20~$30 when comparing them to GFL2. Maybe new voicelines, completely redone ult animations (like GFL2), and a special skin for Jue the echo could justify spending that much money for a skin.
This is all still my opinion, though.
@TheWaifuConnoisseurwith your demand, Jinhsi skin would be justified as a $60-$100 skin and not $20
After looking at the drip marketing vs the trailer and game play videos I def wish she had more pink. I fell in love with the crazy amount of pink she had in the marketing photo, I could do with less pink but her outfit needs more light pink in my opinion. I’m still gonna be swiping for this as a jinhsi main
I have never played this game, but does the drip marketing Skin somewhat related to the narrative?
Legends say he pulled the leaks gameplay 🙀😂
Does she spawn a cherry blossom tree in 3rd E animation (like a actual tree model)? anyway the flying lantern and fireworks on top of everything, look amazing
5:50?? her clasic skin have tacet mark there soo where do u want to put it :v
Tbh the skin didn't impress me much. The most I could give it is 8.1/10 and from what I have seen from other games that definitely doesn't look like a PREMIUM SKIN. No hate tho
Nice, jinhsi is in my first team so I’m happy about this
12:18 SENBONZAKURA KAGEYOSHI!!! MA GOAT!!
Nah bro I am not paying nothing over 20 for a skin it looks sweet but considering the characters coming in 2.0 I rather spend that money on them and will actually benefit my account but it does look sweet maybe it will go on sale later on and will probably pick it up then.
$35 dollar skin is ridiculous lol. Can buy a full game on sale for $35
Welcome to micro-transactions and video game cosmetics where companies have been continuously upping the prices and it works out because they can and know people will go for it regardless!
@@KrakenZzz123 welcome to gacha lol
@@KrakenZzz123I mean liveservice games in general have ridiculous pricing for these, also if you think about it the skin cost like 20 pulls for a whale or a spender so it's not really much for them
The skin is actually 21$ if you haven't used the x2
That "senbonzakura" was goofy af😂
it's more than fair as a league player too, it comes with an avatar sigil new effects and weapon skin
Fun fact, as of patch 2.0, WuWa will have as many premium skins as Genshin Impact. I hope they actually continue releasing premium and standard skins at a regular pace.
I really wish they can incorporate a system for the costumes for gems or items or more crystals.
I have a talk about the concept, another game has 20$ for unlock a costume but it rewards you or pulls, items, and materials to unlock more characters.
Then there’s the unpopular opinion, the damn gacha skins, that rewards you but if your luck bad, max is 60$
This should be 15 usd. It's bullshit, and they deserve any fan backlash over it.
If you've been buying the monthly pass (which is what you should be buying if you're ever gonna spend at all) then the skin is effectively free from the already saved up Lunite.
0:22 bro had to check if his wife was listening
Now I want individual Rover skin for each region, for free
And give us a variation of regular character models for max friendship
And then Changli naked skin but like she has to have full stacks and then she has pasties on her shi, and when you ult they burn away on her sillhouette so you can kinda tell the shape from the lighting but it isn't shown entirely, that can cost however much they ask
I rather buy the subscription at 5 bucks now and login everyday to get it for less
You have to buy around 9 months subscription to get this SFX skin after 2.0
how does this work? if I get the subscription I will have a discount on the skin?
@@Ashtrovx no no, the discounted price is only DURING 2.0 patch duration, after that it goes back to normal prices that Smack showed in video
Bro I don't know if you are confused it's not asterites for it but the currency u convert to asterites.
You get about Lunites too if you get the monthly sub, about 300 of em mote or less
How do I unpackaged this. You hit me in the feels with the pulse fire Esreal skin mention! I'm not gonna lie, PGR would make basic and epic skins together. You get what you pay for with them.
Now maybe I'm a penny pincher but I felt $35 was a bit pricey, I know we don't see eye to eye there. HOWEVER, I did purchase a few costumes in PGR so I'm definitely gonna open the wallet and see what they do. I just hope the weapon isn't sold separately. (Wishful thinking)
Appreciate you for still sacrificing time for the job even in the wee hours of the morning.
Totally agree with the hairstyle part i wish they give us hairstyle options for the skins
im exited because jinhsi is my favorite character
call me poor but saying that $50 dollar skin is a fair price is out of touch american take. You can buy a real AAA game for the same price.
This is fair. Also consider what kind of game this is. You get to freely run around with your new skin and fire off attacks at nothing and just sit back and look at them in the environment. The purchase value of a skin in Wuwa is higher than other games.
I agree that a change in hairstyle would have done wonders.
i think the best way is to buy the skin is 30$ pack with 2 monthly packs
To be honest, if you didnt buy the top up packs yet you can get her at a lower price once it goes upto 50 ish dollars which i do like
Agreed: Direct price would be perfect. I would feel a bit scammed, if i had to use the top-up system for a skin. Also 35+$ for a skin is at least Legendary tier in League if not mythic. I expect a complete overhaul of the characters animations, emotes and even moves at this point without removing the core of the character.
8:36 right there that look in her eyes.
2:47 If you have the 1st time bonus then you can get it for 21 bucks in USD. So i really hope they dont add another panel tbh, cause then itd be extra. You can buy the $15, $5, and $1 as long as you have the 1st time bonus for all 3 then its much better than having 1 panel where you buy it for 35. Hope that made sense, not the best at explaining things 😂
When you already have to pony up around $100 dollars for the character, a skin should be around $10, $20 max. Its also acceptable to have a skin gacha with a reasonable pity, that way you know max cost and it gives f2p an option for getting it if they want to sacrifice some pulls. They absolutely need to just give a real money purchase option if its not gacha, making you buy more in-game currency than you need for something is the oldest, scummiest trick in the mobile gaming book.
wtf is that pricing
I don’t think it’s a bad price and we’ve known the skin was coming for a bit so plenty of time to save. It’s also discounted until 2.1 so less eating out.
I want the outfit for jinshi and changli. But this with the new colour and extra fireworks and cherryblosoms looks sweet
Ultimate skin basically. Can't wait to see more like it.
It's said the new skin 3D model has 120k modeling faces which is 30k higer than the origianl one, and much much more than other gacha games.
I don't think this will get a separate page. The first 3 packages with x2 are exactly 2680 which will cater f2p players and make spenders spend by cocking them with the price points. Tho monthly subscribers are eating good since it will only cost them the equivalent of 20 pulls if they didn't convert.
The price is definitely fair... And it's also way too much for me personally.
Looking at it objectively, it's about the cost of a 20 pull which is totally reasonable, but as a Monthly-sign-in-at-most little fish I can only see it as being the same price as like half a year of +20 pulls a month. They did a good job with it though, so I hope it does well.
Personally think it’s an expensive skin but if you’re a low spender you can wilt it down a lot depending on how often you spend your monthly subscription lunite. I personally can buy this skin for 15 dollars for the amount I got saved up. The 5 dollars is used to buy the monthly subscription which I was gonna buy anyway.
God damn, 17 minutes ago is wild. I literally just watched this lmao. Skin looks fire, but I really like the vanilla one tbh. I think I'd be more interested if it was a bigger departure.
Ever-Burning Phoenix Changli
Just wanted her to have a what if skin IF she get's engulfed by her inner flame
Flame design becomes more darker with violet or purple hue
More phoenix feather design
I'm just coping
Jinhsi's skin price is not too far off from PGR's premium coating price tags. They do not disappoint when it comes to designing their premium skins. Just search for Alpha Crimson Weave's coatings specially her newest one and oh boy.
Personally I won't buy $40-50 skins since I'm broke, but for whales and for those who have extra money to burn for their gacha games? Then I'd probably say it's a fair deal for them to buy the skin
Considering the $500 faker skin I think $35 for jinshi and weapon skin is pretty fair if u really like jinshi like me.