Funny story about the Munich government: they spent several years trying so switch from windows to open source Linux systems and just when they were finished and finally had everything running, Microsoft came and said "I'll set up a big Microsoft headquarters in your city, would you please be so kind and switch back to Microsoft for all your government servers and computers pretty please" Lol and behold, munich immediately switched everything back to Microsoft systems because of money and "lobbying" aka br1bery
To be fair, they still had compatibility issues after the 10 years. So it wasn’t running all smoothly and they switched back. There is just to much windows specific software from the federal level that needs to be used and the main reason for the switch was potential cost savings that never where achieved.
@@Patrick_wireThey have achieved about 10 millions of Euros cost savings. And the full switch back to Microsoft would cost them about 90 millions. This was all about the lobbying. In 2020 a newly elected city government backtracked on the decision and decided to return to LiMux
That's why this should be enforced at EU level, to avoid corporations to buy local councils. If that happened in Germany imagine in Italy or Spain how easy this would be.
French "Gendarmerie" (civil police but with military structure and status) already have been fully open-source since 2005. They even have their own fork of Ubuntu (GendBuntu). In a documentary from the french public TV about Microsoft's lobbying in France, I remember a high rank officer explaining that they don't like to brag about it not to put to shame the other institutions (police, health, government, etc) but that they knew for facts it ended up being more reliable, safer and much cheaper than it is for anyone using Microsoft products... But they also explained how massive lobbying work from Microsoft and explicit support from the US gvt makes it harder to make the move.
Honestly, once your org reaches a couple thousand employees, it starts making a lot of sense to fork your own distro. Get a team of people who's job it is to manage and update it, keep track of patches etc, and you can fully control changes.
Kind of agree. It should be open standards so any company or open source projects can complete. Dictating local or regional groups have to use XYZ software is bad on so many levels like graft and security. But if all text documents have to be some flavor of RTF or a print true document not owned by Adobe, well then big and small businesses need to offer something better than an open source project ran mostly by students and weird loners posting code anonymously.
No it shouldn't be enforced at EU because: 1. it doesn't help to prevent Climate Change 2. there is no inherent component of harassment of citizens like the bottle-cap Law 3. They are busy now, to enforce wood_land owners to document and GPS_register every tree which is felled in EU, and then they need to enlarge and newly build prisons to inmate those, who don't comply! You see why all needs to remain in Bill Gates's hands! 4. don't fell Trees for firewood; it doesn't matter if the wole forest burns down in wildfires, next year. Don't produce CO2 in Your oven!
last time Germany made the switch to open source and Linux. They moved back to Microsoft before the end of the year. So let's hope it sticks. libre calc is still not a feature parity with Excel in terms of useability.
the average person doesnt care if it is open source they only want it to work and they dont want to learn new things. this will not work. others have tried and failed. they are not doing anything to solve the problems.
@@ashishpatel350This isn't exactly about the "average person" though. This is mainly about EU government operations. That's why "Digital sovereignty" was on the requirements list. Additionally, they can make it a requirement, rather than a "pls do thx".
@@SkyyySi making something a requirement doesnt work if they arent trained on it. with windows people use it in their home making it easier for them to use windows at work.
The consumer protection (expecially the recent right to repair movements) and the privacy laws actually made me happy to live here in the EU and not in the US. A few years ago I thought the US was a state based on maximum freedom. Now I realise this freedom only really applies to companies and not to normal people.
Truth. Freedom is almost always a tradeoff. Like GDPR, it reduces my freedom at work(it can truly get annoying to deal with at times), but it gives me the freedom to not be unduly monitored, and to have the power to make companies delete my information, which is totally worth the hassle it brings companies.
"state based on maximum freedom" -- what kind of propaganda are you watching? imagine someone says to you "Russia is a state based on maximum freedom", wouldn't you laugh at them? why does it suddenly work with the state that has started the greatest amount of wars in the recent half-century?
You are free to not use platforms provided by big tech if you care so much about privacy and freedom. What you want is that websites like UA-cam continue to function like they do while also not collecting data or playing ads. Who would pay for all that? Certainly not a freeloader like you.
Friendly reminder that 90% of all public pencil pushers don't use any Office functions you can't find in the quick options of Libre Office. And those that use like 5 custom macros - can't their IT department just rewrite them, once?
Friendly reminder that that those 90% of all public pencil pushers had enough trouble learning that. Germany already tried to switch to Linux, they went back in less than a year.
I have been using libre office to complete work for school. My favorite part is opening microsoft office files without having to do anything at all. It aggravates me professors give you material in what for most would need money to access.
@@Brent-jj6qi In LibreOffice: File > Export. In older versions, this was File > "Save As...". In the next dialog (popup), select the filetype from the drop-down list that's under the filename input box (docx, xlsx, pptx, and so on). Click ok. You can select the default file format in application settings.
No… they have actually stopped working on a law forbidden the US to extract data from servers owned by US entreprises (think all cloud providers) in Europe.
@Andrew-Wood nor should it. I don't want a blue screening ad machine with no customization, tons of spyware and a garbage file system. Not to mention it continually getting worse and worse.
It's a common mistake. Switzerland is a landlocked nation surrounded by the EU. Following EU policies in most places is necessary to minimise friction in trade and movement.
@@marcuskissinger3842 Actually I seem to have been mistaken. A 2022 poll was ~70% pro EEA, but even though Switzerland is known for their direct democracy, this doesn't have seem to impacted their membership. (Obviously they easily meet all requirements.)
They don't need to. Microsoft is an American company so the government audits their source code before putting it in their machines. So Microsoft provides the US government with an exclusive backdoor free version of their software.
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In Finland it's the opposite from what I noticed, plenty of home grown closed source solutions and Microsoft usage. What worries me quite much is the false knowledge that is spread against for example email. Their are companies selling "secure" messages solution that sell message services to provide more security when sending messages, however they only provide transport and not end-to-end encryption.
Despite some pilot projects, its the same for germany. I work for a german company in their in-house dev/support team for a Microsoft software called "Navision". The software is critical to the functioning of the company, and the number of single-points-of-failure is so high, its INSANE.
This is ironic from the homeland of Linus Trovals.
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@@idlecom I've experienced the same issue in Germany. Part of the problem is nepotism, easier corruption because of low level leaders either being corrupt or having no idea. Another thing is that some users except they can't get everything they want. E.g. I was an admin in a small company. I setup a small linux network. Most users where fine including the user who complained but they expected that she gets a special install without Linux and expected that we don't delete her scans at the end of the day in the network scan folder. They complained about issues they didn't know how to do in Windows in Linux telling it's to complicated, doesn't do what they want. Munich had similar issues, users wanted to install their own software complained that they didn't have permission to install Microsoft Office and Sykpe.
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The pdf about the CSU complaining the can't install software can be found here (in German): web.archive.org/web/20150824010453/www.ris-muenchen.de/RII/RII/DOK/ANTRAG/3745830.pdf
@@HydraulicDesign If an end user can meet their needs with existing FOSS or off-the-shelf software with no development needed, no ongoing service is needed.
The german state Thüringen currently builds its own datacenter also with opensource technologies like openstack as a replacement for cloud providers like azure, aws, etc. for all government entities to host their services (like nextscloud, etc.).
@@NullTypeError I dunno about you, but I would vastly prefer my government to host its data on its own servers rather than someone elses', no matter how much more it costs. There's no such thing as "the cloud," there are only other people's computers.
@@bartolomeothesatyr why? Do you think that government can be efficient and professional? They will spend much more money and create outdated system. In my opinion, government should not own anything at all. But in EU this never will happen
Switzerland is not in the EU. I believe Germany is investing in Matrix for their police officers. Sadly for now it's just a few countries seeking digital independence and there are many governments in Europe that would happily use Microsoft for everything.
@@HeraldKros The roots of the red flag with the white cross go back to the battle of Laupen in the canton of Bern in 1339. To distinguish themselves from the other parties on the battlefield, the Swiss soldiers had sewn a white cross onto their chain mail. Later, the cross appeared on the weapons and banners of Swiss soldiers.
I once worked an IT position for my government, after the mission I had to report to several people that were not government related. When it came to the part where I pointed out that using windows over free alternatives was misuse of taxmoney (heavily implying corruption, which it is) one of these persons got really mad going on a tirade about how the government knows best and it's not your position to make judgement. You could tell so easily he was a fanatic supporter of the current president. I despise so much those who blindly bow to authority.
@@XOFInfantryman Microsoft is installed on government computers because whoever was in charge at the time was paid to make it the standard. It's corruption. When you point out corruption or the product of corruption, those who suck up to authority take it for what it is, an attack on their masters. It doesn't matter if it was decades ago and whoever stuffed his pockets is no longer in place. You are pointing how a system is dysfonctionnel and it turns the emotionally invested/manipulated absolutely crazy when you signal you are not a slave like them.
Another very interesting German initiative in this realm is the „OpenDesk“ project which aims to combine open source software into an integrated online workspace. Still at its very beginning but big if it succeeds!
By the way in Germany it is also planned to develop a free software OS (probably Linux based, I assume) for our public media (paid via public fee). I personally hope it's Debian based and running powerful PeerTube instances. But either way it's good to fund free software with public money.
@@adiabolicalliberty2614 Croudstrike problem basically had nothing to do with operating system. Their product parses a config file inside their driver/kernel module and had a null ptr problem while doing that. So same algorithm in Linux and Windows with the same problem source, croudstrike software.
if this happens then these countries that adapt it should still employ a department of IT/InfoSec experts that will routinely monitor all submitted updates and patches. and maybe even contribute to the code improvement they should not rely on it like most users do and trust the ecosystem to verify itself.
One second EU wants to remove apple's walled garden, then wants to add backdoors to messaging, and now wants to use open source, when before it wanted to hold devs legally accountable for buggy OSS. I think I'm getting whiplash from all this.
1. Oh no, not apple's walled garden 2. The chat control law has been rewritten a whole lot of times and there are still enough countries to pass it. 3. That law never passed. It was a proposal put up to discussion, it was dumb, and it was dropped.
@@bumblebeegamerreal If they are this paranoid about children's privacy online then maybe they should consider the possibility that children maybe shouldn't have COMPLETELY unrestricted access to the internet
Other countries requiring government employees use open source. Meanwhile the US government requires Office instead of Gmail because "it's more secure".
Chat control? Oh, you mean the law that was voted against? The EU is a diverse democracy where many people bring in suggestions. Until they actually get voted into law, it doesn't mean much.
EU : let’s have an RGPD to protect people privacy. Also EU : let’s remove a proporsed law that would forbidd the US to extract data from european cloud servers
Having a GNU/Linux OS and LibreOffice in governmental workstations is very good. The problem is many public official duties are handled with bespoke software written for Windows. Those software projects have typically cost 3 times the initial budget and been delayed 3 years from the initial deadline. No power in this universe is going to port the applications to Linux.
@@andreasjoannai6441 Generally no, only because of that one exploit from a couple years ago. I was just more referring to the LDAP protocol or LDAP servers in general for user accounts.
Finally, Europe is on track to follow the glorious example of North Korea. Honestly, Linux machines with strict permissions are so much easier to manage.
Imagine how relieved the systems engineer and any IT technician in those areas must feel to know that they won't have to deal with all of the BS that comes with Microsoft no more. On the other hand, all regular government employees that don't know what an OS is or what open-source means are probably terrified!
Libre Office is so good, I started using it last year and just couldn't use anything else. Too bad that pretty much every single job here requires you to be a god at excel and Microsoft tools, so it renders any skills at Libre Office pretty much useless.
Honestly... I want it to be a good replacement for MSOffice, but it's kinda trash. The UI is piss, the settings are infuriating and the formulas in Calc just feel broken, permanently. Not to mention the horrendous scrolling, and units of measurement. Did you know that you can't define column width (again in Calc) in pixels? Gotta use inches! 👌🏿 Because that fckin reasonable... You can very easily tell it's got its roots firmly planted in the 80s. I loathe MSOffice, and the GOOG suite... but by the gods, I cannot tolerate LO long enough to get any actual work done. I don't mean to crap on your opinions; I just want the LO people to get a grip, streamline the UI (get a proper UX/UI person on the job) and generally make it feel like I'm not just kicking a fossil around. Help me escape the GOOG / MS hell hole. 🥺
This isn't the EU. it's the individual European nations doing this. I think people forget that the EU isn't and should never be the federal government of Europe.
It's good. If companies need open document format to work with government then it means they have to install Libre Office on their work computer. So the exposure to LO will be quite big which means over the time people will get more used to it and might start using it for their own business as well.
this is the best new ive heard in ages! thank you so much for making this video ive needed good tech news for a while now, lets hope the UK pulls there corrupt arse together and does this too.
Lol 3:10 to the post Apple support is better than Microsoft as long as is software… as soon as it’s hardware they will tell you to buy a new one even if there is a way to fix it
Hi. I occasionally listen to your content in podcast form. Interesting to stumble upon the UA-cam channel. Mostly to explore a different viewpoint, so thanks for your content.
"...Europe proves that their governments oh so very based when it comes to open source." * Shows EU flags * Immediately shows an article about Switzerland. Checks out about as well as that photo of Trump when talking about the US not doing anything against M$ instead of a photo of Biden (the current president).
I heard someone vaguely mentioning how the federal government would need to "manually" ban copilot by telling workers not to use it and, like... how could that possibly be a concern, how is Microsoft not thinking this through and making sure there's a really easy way for enterprise to turn that all off?
My concern is, the more the govt is involved in the open source, the more influence it would want over its development. Microsoft and Google got hands and a big American daddy - open source doesn't. It might end up being a hostile takeover of an only competitor to the big corpos just to make it mostly state-controlled.
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Yeah right. Talking about soverignty will the americans never leaved. NATO is a bunch of vassals states to the US, you would never see a foreign army in the US
Ahh, let' see how this will go. The government once tried to ban all Microsoft products from schools because of data privacy stuff and oh boy, our teachers were furious, because they love Word and Teams. And I'm sure that the government does a lot of Excel magic, which will likely not work with Libre.
Exciting news! I really hope Linux and other open source tools gain more attention and adoption. With government support, there’ll be more resources dedicated to building these tools and improving them.
The problem is the EU will also push on total control of that software and any and all communication. Backdoors everywhere for the absolutely legitimate concerns of state security of course.
I believe you miss the main thing, EU is so dependent on US tech companies because EU can't have it's own tech companies (except very few small which are almost unusable) because of crazy regulations, taxes and leftists. It's literally impossible to find at least middle class replacement for any tech product in the EU that's exist in US or even Canada! Just insane.
That's great! A part of the savings should be invested in the free software being used. It's free as in freedom, it's our ethical duty to support them economically too, it will improve the software for them and for everybody!
In at least one city hall in Copenhagen, the computers the citizens can use when getting help for stuff, has an operating system called BorgerOS (Citizen OS). It is ubuntu based, it made me smile when I saw it :)
Hard to call it a public/private mix. Its mostly private by far, with a carefully selected handful on industries the government engages in publicly which they thought needed extra regulatory oversight.
not to be a dark cloud in the sky, but... this happens like every 3-5 years in a cycle, then the government employees are overwhelmed, that "this doesn't look like win95 word"... then there is a "learning period", with longer waiting time for any services... then, after 12 months the employees are still braindead and don't know how to press buttons, then there is a rollback to all ms (with higher fees now, ofc) best example in germany specifically is most of bavaria and munich.. they tried it and wasted tens of millions to eventually get back to the previous state, but now paying sth like double the fees 😅😅
In my view Munichs move back to windows had more to do with heavy lobbying by microsoft directed at the CSU. Everyone except the CSU was against reverting to Windows but the politician was rewarded well for pushing it through.
Good! Government support of open source will improve the tools and build a more resilient user base. Happy to hear that we will have some bastions of technological sanity to keep the market sharp.
That's why, for instance, Russia and China were unaffected by the Crowdstrike crash - all critical infrastructure runs in the domestic versions or a homebrew open-source software, and even the businesses that's been using Windows had domestic security solutions on them. Same with consumer software and services - they'll never have a global reach an audience as Google services, for example, but nevertheless the full counterparts of every product and service are present (sometimes even outclassing the original, given they've being focused on the local specifics, or even simply being coded better). National payment systems, national internet, national navigation, you name it - even if global IT companies will shut down together with their solutions and WWW itself crashes tomorrow, everything within the countries would be up and running mostly unaffected. Every country should strive to the same kind of an informational sovereignty and I'm glad most of them are waking up. As a matter of fact, achieving overal sovereignty is only possible to achieving independence in every strategic sphere, from the resources to the tech (at least in the most basic ways or on terms of a co-dependence with another country that lacks something you have for exhange on what you need), but that's a whole another story, and sorting out your informational technologies should be a priority in the modern world, especially considering it's not actually all that hard to mass produce a quality software engineers within a nation.
Funny story about the Munich government: they spent several years trying so switch from windows to open source Linux systems and just when they were finished and finally had everything running, Microsoft came and said "I'll set up a big Microsoft headquarters in your city, would you please be so kind and switch back to Microsoft for all your government servers and computers pretty please"
Lol and behold, munich immediately switched everything back to Microsoft systems because of money and "lobbying" aka br1bery
To be fair, they still had compatibility issues after the 10 years. So it wasn’t running all smoothly and they switched back. There is just to much windows specific software from the federal level that needs to be used and the main reason for the switch was potential cost savings that never where achieved.
@@Patrick_wireThey have achieved about 10 millions of Euros cost savings. And the full switch back to Microsoft would cost them about 90 millions.
This was all about the lobbying.
In 2020 a newly elected city government backtracked on the decision and decided to return to LiMux
Oh, so THAT's why that one article shown in the video said "Schleswig-Holstein succeeded where Munich failed"
That's why this should be enforced at EU level, to avoid corporations to buy local councils. If that happened in Germany imagine in Italy or Spain how easy this would be.
Exactly. Everything is just politics. There are no great spirits and idealists in a countrys top leadership and key to the bag of money
NOT TAX DOLLARS BUT TAX EUROS 💥💥💥💥 EUROPE 💥💥💥 WTF IS A GALON 💥💥
haha fahrenheit go burr 🦅
ich bin ungefähr so groß wie 6 füße lang sind
People who can't divide by numbers other than 10.
@@MrEdrftgyujiSo very hurtful.
@@MrEdrftgyuji We can also divide by 100 and 1000 🤓☝
Dieser Kommentarbereich ist nun Eigentum der Bundesrepublik Deutschland.
Damn Germany you're early
@@MentalOutlaw Immer bereit.
Sehr früh
@@AlfredNobel-u1u Jawoll!
Ein Volk, ein Reich - *EIN KOMMENTARBEREICH*
French "Gendarmerie" (civil police but with military structure and status) already have been fully open-source since 2005. They even have their own fork of Ubuntu (GendBuntu).
In a documentary from the french public TV about Microsoft's lobbying in France, I remember a high rank officer explaining that they don't like to brag about it not to put to shame the other institutions (police, health, government, etc) but that they knew for facts it ended up being more reliable, safer and much cheaper than it is for anyone using Microsoft products...
But they also explained how massive lobbying work from Microsoft and explicit support from the US gvt makes it harder to make the move.
Microsoft spends fortunes each year lobbying precisely to avoid losing such recurring juicy contracts.
That's how they actually make money with their shitty products no one would otherwise spend a penny with his own pocket.
Missed a chance to use Gentoo and not even have to rename it
Honestly, once your org reaches a couple thousand employees, it starts making a lot of sense to fork your own distro. Get a team of people who's job it is to manage and update it, keep track of patches etc, and you can fully control changes.
GendBuntu lmaoo
I didn't know that
This should be enforced at EU level. We should stop using software owned by foreign massive corporations.
Kind of agree. It should be open standards so any company or open source projects can complete. Dictating local or regional groups have to use XYZ software is bad on so many levels like graft and security. But if all text documents have to be some flavor of RTF or a print true document not owned by Adobe, well then big and small businesses need to offer something better than an open source project ran mostly by students and weird loners posting code anonymously.
No it shouldn't be enforced at EU because: 1. it doesn't help to prevent Climate Change
2. there is no inherent component of harassment of citizens like the bottle-cap Law
3. They are busy now, to enforce wood_land owners to document and GPS_register every tree which is felled in EU, and then they need to enlarge and newly build prisons to inmate those, who don't comply! You see why all needs to remain in Bill Gates's hands!
4. don't fell Trees for firewood; it doesn't matter if the wole forest burns down in wildfires, next year. Don't produce CO2 in Your oven!
If this is proven to work other nations will follow.
wir müssen das alle downwoten
last time Germany made the switch to open source and Linux. They moved back to Microsoft before the end of the year. So let's hope it sticks. libre calc is still not a feature parity with Excel in terms of useability.
the average person doesnt care if it is open source they only want it to work and they dont want to learn new things. this will not work. others have tried and failed. they are not doing anything to solve the problems.
@@ashishpatel350This isn't exactly about the "average person" though. This is mainly about EU government operations. That's why "Digital sovereignty" was on the requirements list. Additionally, they can make it a requirement, rather than a "pls do thx".
@@SkyyySi making something a requirement doesnt work if they arent trained on it. with windows people use it in their home making it easier for them to use windows at work.
That is the funniest pronunciation of Schleswig Holstein I have ever heard.
Typical anglophone if you ignore that he misread Schleswig as Schelswig.
Thankfully I learned a bit about Otto Von Bismarck to know how to pronounce Schleswig Holstein.
Shlessvik Holshtine for English speakers
He made it sound like some Hollywood executive lmao.
Holstiiiiiiin
The consumer protection (expecially the recent right to repair movements) and the privacy laws actually made me happy to live here in the EU and not in the US. A few years ago I thought the US was a state based on maximum freedom. Now I realise this freedom only really applies to companies and not to normal people.
Ironically you need rules to enforce more freedom
Truth. Freedom is almost always a tradeoff. Like GDPR, it reduces my freedom at work(it can truly get annoying to deal with at times), but it gives me the freedom to not be unduly monitored, and to have the power to make companies delete my information, which is totally worth the hassle it brings companies.
"state based on maximum freedom" -- what kind of propaganda are you watching? imagine someone says to you "Russia is a state based on maximum freedom", wouldn't you laugh at them? why does it suddenly work with the state that has started the greatest amount of wars in the recent half-century?
You are free to not use platforms provided by big tech if you care so much about privacy and freedom.
What you want is that websites like UA-cam continue to function like they do while also not collecting data or playing ads.
Who would pay for all that? Certainly not a freeloader like you.
@@zekiz774More libertarians need to hear this.
Friendly reminder that 90% of all public pencil pushers don't use any Office functions you can't find in the quick options of Libre Office. And those that use like 5 custom macros - can't their IT department just rewrite them, once?
I am tired of visual basic, id be glad
Friendly reminder that that those 90% of all public pencil pushers had enough trouble learning that. Germany already tried to switch to Linux, they went back in less than a year.
@@max7971 The thing is you have to commit.
@@max7971this time will be different, 8.5M blue screens is no joke
@@max7971 It is not the strongest that survive, but those most adaptable to change
I have been using libre office to complete work for school.
My favorite part is opening microsoft office files without having to do anything at all.
It aggravates me professors give you material in what for most would need money to access.
my favorite part of using libreoffice is how damn versatile it is - almost like FOSS products actually have to be good
@@cewla3348 95% of FOSS products are bad, same with closed source. Libreoffice is just not in that 95%
I might be dumb but I can’t figure out how to do it the other way around (Exporting spreadsheets for easy use in office)
@@Brent-jj6qi In LibreOffice: File > Export. In older versions, this was File > "Save As...". In the next dialog (popup), select the filetype from the drop-down list that's under the filename input box (docx, xlsx, pptx, and so on). Click ok.
You can select the default file format in application settings.
real. i have started using it after switching to linux and now i dont wanna go back. libre is just so much better
Based Europe moment
They're only doing this to escape foreign companies. It's pure self-interest.
Better late than never I guess
No… they have actually stopped working on a law forbidden the US to extract data from servers owned by US entreprises (think all cloud providers) in Europe.
Now if only we were based in other things.
EU farts and americans are there to measure every single fart molecule.
All hail the downfall of microshaft win-blows.
michaelsoft binbows
@@ChandlerMakesVidya they replaced my internet exploder with Michaelsoft edging. Dammit.
☠️
Linux will never be a good OS, get over it
@Andrew-Wood nor should it. I don't want a blue screening ad machine with no customization, tons of spyware and a garbage file system. Not to mention it continually getting worse and worse.
Switzerland is not in the EU, only in Europe lol. Still, this is important stuff and a very informative video!
It's in Schengen and votes would put it into the EuropeanEconicArea.
@@whohan779thanks for the factoid bud
It's a common mistake. Switzerland is a landlocked nation surrounded by the EU. Following EU policies in most places is necessary to minimise friction in trade and movement.
@@marcuskissinger3842 Actually I seem to have been mistaken. A 2022 poll was ~70% pro EEA, but even though Switzerland is known for their direct democracy, this doesn't have seem to impacted their membership. (Obviously they easily meet all requirements.)
We're Americans. Everything that's not America is either Japan, Mexico, the EU, or the Axis of Evil.
0:47
MS Office -> LibreOffice
MS Outlook -> Thunderbird
MS Exchange -> Open Exchange
MS Sharepoint -> NextCloud
MS Windows -> GNU+Linux
YESYESYES!
I live in Schleswig holstein and my school has Linux and FOSS only, we even have deveolped a software on our own to manage timetables and such stuff
Oh wow, if that would have been the case when I was still in my student years, I would have definitely studied there.
Ok that is awesome :D
I want My Country🇧🇷 to do it too :(
For timetables we used Untis. What did you use?
@@obbligato35 Paper and black and white printer I think...? I do not know
@@alface935 well that's the traditional method. Untis is a digital timetable software.
Burgerland could never
We might, but we probably won't
@@MentalOutlaw are you going to do any updates on intel's ME
@@MentalOutlaw Just like not moving to the metric system and Celsius temperature smh
Jesus-land.
They don't need to. Microsoft is an American company so the government audits their source code before putting it in their machines. So Microsoft provides the US government with an exclusive backdoor free version of their software.
In Finland it's the opposite from what I noticed, plenty of home grown closed source solutions and Microsoft usage. What worries me quite much is the false knowledge that is spread against for example email. Their are companies selling "secure" messages solution that sell message services to provide more security when sending messages, however they only provide transport and not end-to-end encryption.
same in poland
Despite some pilot projects, its the same for germany.
I work for a german company in their in-house dev/support team for a Microsoft software called "Navision".
The software is critical to the functioning of the company, and the number of single-points-of-failure is so high, its INSANE.
This is ironic from the homeland of Linus Trovals.
@@idlecom I've experienced the same issue in Germany. Part of the problem is nepotism, easier corruption because of low level leaders either being corrupt or having no idea. Another thing is that some users except they can't get everything they want. E.g. I was an admin in a small company. I setup a small linux network. Most users where fine including the user who complained but they expected that she gets a special install without Linux and expected that we don't delete her scans at the end of the day in the network scan folder. They complained about issues they didn't know how to do in Windows in Linux telling it's to complicated, doesn't do what they want.
Munich had similar issues, users wanted to install their own software complained that they didn't have permission to install Microsoft Office and Sykpe.
The pdf about the CSU complaining the can't install software can be found here (in German): web.archive.org/web/20150824010453/www.ris-muenchen.de/RII/RII/DOK/ANTRAG/3745830.pdf
i never would have thought that Mental Outlaw would ever say the name Schleswieg-Holstein. MY HOME STATE 😂
He didn't; he said Schelswieg-Holstein. 😉
@@herrpez not the worst pronounciation i've heard of my state🤷♂😅
Brothers! Welcome to open source freedom.
@@herrpez i thought he said holstien 😝
Viele basierte Schleswig-Holsteiner hier
Now we need to fight subscription based products. Software you buy, you should own
Software is a SERVICE, whether you pay for it like one or not.
@@HydraulicDesign If an end user can meet their needs with existing FOSS or off-the-shelf software with no development needed, no ongoing service is needed.
@@HydraulicDesign It didn't used to be though nor does it need to be so necessarily.
@@HydraulicDesign Software is a product, you pay for a version and that version you should own
@@HydraulicDesign if it's not owning then it aint stealing when I sailed the sea
Imagine the utopia we'd be living in right now if our tax dollars went towards open source projects instead of ESG grants.
Switzerland is not EU nation, it is European nation but not in EU.
A very important distinction
He is American, he has successfully been brainwashed to think EU = Europe.
@@whirled_peas found the swiss
This is unrelated, but youtube broke newpipe again.
UA-cam wants to get rid of newpipe, but not bots apparently lol
@@paradoxiem510 Its weird that they dont really care about revanced. They only took down vanced cos of NFT or something like that.
@@CentreMetre
revanced brakes from time to time.
crap!
@@carlos32195 True, but it gets fixed pretty fast
The german state Thüringen currently builds its own datacenter also with opensource technologies like openstack as a replacement for cloud providers like azure, aws, etc. for all government entities to host their services (like nextscloud, etc.).
I'm totally for OSS, however considering how "effective" government is, it will cost much more that any Cloud Provider.
Unfortunately governments produce nothing but garbage when it comes to IT
@@NullTypeError I dunno about you, but I would vastly prefer my government to host its data on its own servers rather than someone elses', no matter how much more it costs. There's no such thing as "the cloud," there are only other people's computers.
@@bartolomeothesatyr why? Do you think that government can be efficient and professional? They will spend much more money and create outdated system. In my opinion, government should not own anything at all. But in EU this never will happen
Also Univention Corporate Server.
Switzerland is not in the EU.
I believe Germany is investing in Matrix for their police officers. Sadly for now it's just a few countries seeking digital independence and there are many governments in Europe that would happily use Microsoft for everything.
>Switzerland is not in the EU.
Yes, and thats only a good thing
@@RoofusRoof19 Its flag is also a plus
aand it is within the eu, maybe that counts?
@@swenicIt's actually the Christian cross...
@@HeraldKros The roots of the red flag with the white cross go back to the battle of Laupen in the canton of Bern in 1339. To distinguish themselves from the other parties on the battlefield, the Swiss soldiers had sewn a white cross onto their chain mail. Later, the cross appeared on the weapons and banners of Swiss soldiers.
It’s with the economic zone iirc
I once worked an IT position for my government, after the mission I had to report to several people that were not government related. When it came to the part where I pointed out that using windows over free alternatives was misuse of taxmoney (heavily implying corruption, which it is) one of these persons got really mad going on a tirade about how the government knows best and it's not your position to make judgement. You could tell so easily he was a fanatic supporter of the current president.
I despise so much those who blindly bow to authority.
that you said nicely...blind bowing to authority...
i ha .. it to my core too
so big brains in humans...but for what?...
Truth should be authority
Not authority as the truth
Tf being big fan of X President got to do with what OS are they using 😂😂😂
Linux bros will never stop making fool outta themself
@@XOFInfantryman Microsoft is installed on government computers because whoever was in charge at the time was paid to make it the standard. It's corruption. When you point out corruption or the product of corruption, those who suck up to authority take it for what it is, an attack on their masters. It doesn't matter if it was decades ago and whoever stuffed his pockets is no longer in place. You are pointing how a system is dysfonctionnel and it turns the emotionally invested/manipulated absolutely crazy when you signal you are not a slave like them.
Are you also from Serbia?
Another very interesting German initiative in this realm is the „OpenDesk“ project which aims to combine open source software into an integrated online workspace. Still at its very beginning but big if it succeeds!
By the way in Germany it is also planned to develop a free software OS (probably Linux based, I assume) for our public media (paid via public fee). I personally hope it's Debian based and running powerful PeerTube instances. But either way it's good to fund free software with public money.
Hmmmm... Crowdstrike managed to do a 'Crowdstrike' on Debian back in April 2024.
@@adiabolicalliberty2614 well dont use crowdstrike
@@adiabolicalliberty2614 Why would crowdstrike services be installed on the mediathek os?
@@adiabolicalliberty2614 Croudstrike problem basically had nothing to do with operating system. Their product parses a config file inside their driver/kernel module and had a null ptr problem while doing that. So same algorithm in Linux and Windows with the same problem source, croudstrike software.
I'm sorry, but there is no such thing as "public money", all money government has are people's money got from taxes and regulations.
if this happens then these countries that adapt it should still employ a department of IT/InfoSec experts that will routinely monitor all submitted updates and patches. and maybe even contribute to the code improvement
they should not rely on it like most users do and trust the ecosystem to verify itself.
That sounds a lot easier than an SLA and an insurance policy...
In the US, Microsoft will be sure to pad the pockets of any future legislators to avoid such reverse-tyranny.
One second EU wants to remove apple's walled garden, then wants to add backdoors to messaging, and now wants to use open source, when before it wanted to hold devs legally accountable for buggy OSS. I think I'm getting whiplash from all this.
they're old rags that make dumb decisions and need to have everything from 20th century onwards explained to them
Almost like the EU only cares about stripping away what it can't control, and instituting ehat it can.
1. Oh no, not apple's walled garden
2. The chat control law has been rewritten a whole lot of times and there are still enough countries to pass it.
3. That law never passed. It was a proposal put up to discussion, it was dumb, and it was dropped.
Hopefully the "child protection act" that uses spyware wont pass
@@bumblebeegamerreal If they are this paranoid about children's privacy online then maybe they should consider the possibility that children maybe shouldn't have COMPLETELY unrestricted access to the internet
Search engines, communication, etc these are public goods like roads. It is a natural progression to move to open source for that kind of software.
Other countries requiring government employees use open source. Meanwhile the US government requires Office instead of Gmail because "it's more secure".
It's like choosing between rotten potatoes and slightly less disgusting rotten potatoes
@@under6075 more like rotten potatoes and rotten eggs. just as bad, just different.
What are you talking about my country is using stupid proprietary astra and alt linux distros
do you mean outlook?
lol how is Office more secure than Gmail '? :D
pretty sure most "secure" you can get with mail... is ur own mail server on ur domain lol...
EU: "Hey, lets strenghen open source"
Also EU: "Chatcontrol! Mandatory backdoors!"
🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Chat control? Oh, you mean the law that was voted against?
The EU is a diverse democracy where many people bring in suggestions. Until they actually get voted into law, it doesn't mean much.
@@SkyyySi xD
EU : let’s have an RGPD to protect people privacy. Also EU : let’s remove a proporsed law that would forbidd the US to extract data from european cloud servers
one idea is from central europe the other one from western europe
@@SkyyySi >democracy
not really
How the EU is so based
10 seconds after
Switzerland.
(Switzerland isn't an EU country)
True it's an Asian country
Which is even more based.
@@CatnamedMittens I'm sure there are things that are not based in Switzerland but I don't live there
EU is neither as good as Americans think its is nor as bad as Europeans say it is haha@@CatnamedMittens
@@UndercoverDoglol, you're exactly right haha
Having a GNU/Linux OS and LibreOffice in governmental workstations is very good. The problem is many public official duties are handled with bespoke software written for Windows. Those software projects have typically cost 3 times the initial budget and been delayed 3 years from the initial deadline. No power in this universe is going to port the applications to Linux.
eh, not as bad as the BER.
Ein Reich, ein Teich, ein Kommentarbereich.
Based Dana
Digital lebensraum
Ausbetriebssystem raus!
I want to see something using the LDAP protocol that can actually compete with active directory. That would be amazing to watch happen.
So true.
LDAP as in "jndi:ldap"?
@@andreasjoannai6441 Generally no, only because of that one exploit from a couple years ago. I was just more referring to the LDAP protocol or LDAP servers in general for user accounts.
LDAP was always a solution in need of a problem so it's not gonna compete with anything running in prod.
@@ra2enjoyer708what are you talking about? Active Directory is an implementation of LDAP so what you are saying makes no sense
It's pronounced Shlong Holster.
The American flag pfp on this comment is a touch that should not go understated lmao
No, that’s ‘Murican for all of Europe.
Except those annoying Russkies.
@@Brent-jj6qi ikr
Finally, Europe is on track to follow the glorious example of North Korea.
Honestly, Linux machines with strict permissions are so much easier to manage.
Imagine how relieved the systems engineer and any IT technician in those areas must feel to know that they won't have to deal with all of the BS that comes with Microsoft no more. On the other hand, all regular government employees that don't know what an OS is or what open-source means are probably terrified!
Until Chat Control 2.0 gets passed and all OSS become illegal because you can't guarantee that they have a backdoor.
EU governments: "Open source for me, not for thee"
Did you mean to say all closed source software becomes illegal?
They want backdoors because they want to exploit. Windows, Android IOS.. already full of exploits and backdoors. They love that
Libre Office is so good, I started using it last year and just couldn't use anything else. Too bad that pretty much every single job here requires you to be a god at excel and Microsoft tools, so it renders any skills at Libre Office pretty much useless.
are there maybe mods to make LibreOffice function identically to MS Office?
That would kind of make MS Office completely obsolete
Honestly... I want it to be a good replacement for MSOffice, but it's kinda trash. The UI is piss, the settings are infuriating and the formulas in Calc just feel broken, permanently. Not to mention the horrendous scrolling, and units of measurement. Did you know that you can't define column width (again in Calc) in pixels? Gotta use inches! 👌🏿 Because that fckin reasonable...
You can very easily tell it's got its roots firmly planted in the 80s.
I loathe MSOffice, and the GOOG suite... but by the gods, I cannot tolerate LO long enough to get any actual work done.
I don't mean to crap on your opinions; I just want the LO people to get a grip, streamline the UI (get a proper UX/UI person on the job) and generally make it feel like I'm not just kicking a fossil around. Help me escape the GOOG / MS hell hole. 🥺
@@herrpez maybe the devs need new wind or we might need a fork.
Also, what do you think about Open Office?
@@TuskForce idk man it looks like ms office to me but without the ms.
@@herrpez There's OnlyOffice, FreeOffice, and WPS if you'd like to check those out.
(Onlyoffice and WPS has a flatpak if using linux.)
Yet EU is about to ban monero and chat control will be back on the menu pretty soon again trying to get that last ~1% of support they were missing
And 2 partys in Sweden did an exit scam just to get more votes and make Sweden vite yes for chat control.
This isn't the EU. it's the individual European nations doing this. I think people forget that the EU isn't and should never be the federal government of Europe.
Always mention that to pro EU advocates.
@@graye2799 Americans and their States comparisons. Bruh, we Europeans have a loose trading alliance, we ain't the United States of Europe.
Monero is just money-laundering for people who don't want to use TornadoCash or North Korea.
It's good. If companies need open document format to work with government then it means they have to install Libre Office on their work computer. So the exposure to LO will be quite big which means over the time people will get more used to it and might start using it for their own business as well.
I can't wait to give Windows the boot.
Love the CoD 2 thumbnail even though I'm not all that into that franchise.
Always great to watch a video like this :D
These office workers mostly just need a web browser and some microsoft office clone to do their work.
this is the best new ive heard in ages! thank you so much for making this video ive needed good tech news for a while now, lets hope the UK pulls there corrupt arse together and does this too.
Props to their security team for fast detection and action taken
For a minute I thought you had Arch Warhammer on your thumbnail.
halo
Echt
Lol 3:10 to the post
Apple support is better than Microsoft as long as is software… as soon as it’s hardware they will tell you to buy a new one even if there is a way to fix it
I'm LibreOffice full time. I haven't used Microsoft Office in years and I've never had a subscription for Office 365. I don't miss Micro$oft at all.
i love using onenote and use googledocs pdf printouts for official documents.
Would prefer something else but what options are there?
I can only stay engaged with this at double speed... I've been fooled by the fireship style thumbnail
Hi. I occasionally listen to your content in podcast form. Interesting to stumble upon the UA-cam channel. Mostly to explore a different viewpoint, so thanks for your content.
At least they are doing one form of migration right......
What about the Signal backdoor request by EU's Europol
Signal now has a shady woman as ceo, It glows brighter and brighter.
what about the Sigma backdoor request by the EU's fanumtax
What about the fact that the Microsoft Windows operating system hands all your passwords to Microsoft…
@@ad1340ytyour bait is cringeworthy
The law was decline once again and if it where to pass, signal would pull out of the European market entirely
"...Europe proves that their governments oh so very based when it comes to open source."
* Shows EU flags *
Immediately shows an article about Switzerland.
Checks out about as well as that photo of Trump when talking about the US not doing anything against M$ instead of a photo of Biden (the current president).
Love you and your channel. Pearls of wisdom ‘change is slow, change is good’
7:40 Dang, those privacy screens are a pretty good idea.
I heard someone vaguely mentioning how the federal government would need to "manually" ban copilot by telling workers not to use it and, like... how could that possibly be a concern, how is Microsoft not thinking this through and making sure there's a really easy way for enterprise to turn that all off?
Meanwhile Sweden recently approved Chat Control 2.0, EU trying to ban cash and monero, etc...
How it was approved? It was declined across EU, wasn't it?
Your pronunciation of Schleswig-Holstein is almost perfect except for one thing: the "ei" in Holstein is pronounced "eye", not "ee".
Europe having the last burger "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities"
My concern is, the more the govt is involved in the open source, the more influence it would want over its development. Microsoft and Google got hands and a big American daddy - open source doesn't.
It might end up being a hostile takeover of an only competitor to the big corpos just to make it mostly state-controlled.
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@@AdrianuX1985 reposting the translation: "The very smell of the product is very good, the customer is a customer. The pain of the shooting, the time spent playing basketball in the street. It is made by pushing the element of marriage with a soft but dark smile. Every person who lived in the very need of the football class will be born in time. They dwell in the house of the yeast, and are pregnant with arrows. But he suspended the taciturn vulputate in a dark brown color. Maecenas that brown lake ullamcorper bed who hungers."
Is 2024 the year of the Linux desktop?
I'd say more like 2025 and 2026. It won't explode ofc, but it will rise for sure
2025
Absolutely delusional
@max7971 Why? Please explain.
@@RupertBundemhuh?
Nice.
The infiltrator story is cool.
1:24 Those two things would be absolute *GAMECHANGERS*
OMG N Korea is doing that??! Thank God we would never dream of doing anything shady with technology here in the West. 😏
Based maxing euro chads
Digital sovereignty while there're thousands of foreign troops in Germany is a small step but I hope they get rid of all that soon
Yeah right. Talking about soverignty will the americans never leaved. NATO is a bunch of vassals states to the US, you would never see a foreign army in the US
Hey MO, when will we get Europe shipping on Based Win? Thank you!
Ahh, let' see how this will go. The government once tried to ban all Microsoft products from schools because of data privacy stuff and oh boy, our teachers were furious, because they love Word and Teams.
And I'm sure that the government does a lot of Excel magic, which will likely not work with Libre.
Exciting news! I really hope Linux and other open source tools gain more attention and adoption. With government support, there’ll be more resources dedicated to building these tools and improving them.
The US should ban closed-source voting machines. Pause. End of quote. Repeat the line.
what the fuck?? some private company could sneakily change a few votes around and nobody would notice??
The problem is the EU will also push on total control of that software and any and all communication. Backdoors everywhere for the absolutely legitimate concerns of state security of course.
I hope we in EU stick together and start getting less dependent on us companies. Atm we are controlled by big tech.
Not more than we want to be controlled
@@ToMMi808 you meant you i guess.
I believe you miss the main thing, EU is so dependent on US tech companies because EU can't have it's own tech companies (except very few small which are almost unusable) because of crazy regulations, taxes and leftists. It's literally impossible to find at least middle class replacement for any tech product in the EU that's exist in US or even Canada! Just insane.
That's great! A part of the savings should be invested in the free software being used.
It's free as in freedom, it's our ethical duty to support them economically too, it will improve the software for them and for everybody!
it's cool and all to see the swiss using it, but I also hope that they would contribute to the project as well, as it would benefit them to do so.
Switzerland is not part of the EU xD
It is now
@@railworksamerica no it's not. How?
@@cheebadigga4092 I guess that was a joke
@@knufyeinundzwanzig2004 ah xD
Wait, they tried to load malware on day 1 rather than extracting the security data slowly over time?
Will we see fancy German software? I think it could happen.
I hope so. We have next to no production industry left
SAP are rubbing their hands.
Not too soon I fear, germany is quite behind in everything it related most of the time
Maybe we will see good software, maybe it will be productive, but it will NEVER be fancy xD
Bruh have you visited ANY german websites recently? Lmao.
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Kommentarbereich
In at least one city hall in Copenhagen, the computers the citizens can use when getting help for stuff, has an operating system called BorgerOS (Citizen OS). It is ubuntu based, it made me smile when I saw it :)
I think Sweden has effectively demonstrated that a public private mix is the most effective
what?
Hard to call it a public/private mix. Its mostly private by far, with a carefully selected handful on industries the government engages in publicly which they thought needed extra regulatory oversight.
europe also want every citizen to open source all their assets
😂😂😂😂
not to be a dark cloud in the sky, but...
this happens like every 3-5 years in a cycle, then the government employees are overwhelmed, that "this doesn't look like win95 word"...
then there is a "learning period", with longer waiting time for any services...
then, after 12 months the employees are still braindead and don't know how to press buttons,
then there is a rollback to all ms (with higher fees now, ofc)
best example in germany specifically is most of bavaria and munich..
they tried it and wasted tens of millions to eventually get back to the previous state, but now paying sth like double the fees 😅😅
In my view Munichs move back to windows had more to do with heavy lobbying by microsoft directed at the CSU. Everyone except the CSU was against reverting to Windows but the politician was rewarded well for pushing it through.
Nice timing as I recently decided to perm switch to linux mint
"shellswig hole steen"
I'm from there and i didn't look at the video so i didn't even know what you talked about until I looked at the flag thingy xD
Unfortunately, excel is miles ahead of any other "equivalent" solution. Until that is sorted out, it'll remain king
in which ways is ms office superior to libre calc? I don't use it enough to notice
imagine your tax dollars going to develop something you are not going to use yourself, because it will be spyware
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fine by me. if its open source then it should be clear whether or not it is spyware
They already do in America, gamer. Open Source? You can just fork the program and un-cuck it.
@@acceptablecasualty5319 not really
I'd much rather the spyware be open source than be in a megacorp's control.
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Good! Government support of open source will improve the tools and build a more resilient user base. Happy to hear that we will have some bastions of technological sanity to keep the market sharp.
That's why, for instance, Russia and China were unaffected by the Crowdstrike crash - all critical infrastructure runs in the domestic versions or a homebrew open-source software, and even the businesses that's been using Windows had domestic security solutions on them. Same with consumer software and services - they'll never have a global reach an audience as Google services, for example, but nevertheless the full counterparts of every product and service are present (sometimes even outclassing the original, given they've being focused on the local specifics, or even simply being coded better). National payment systems, national internet, national navigation, you name it - even if global IT companies will shut down together with their solutions and WWW itself crashes tomorrow, everything within the countries would be up and running mostly unaffected. Every country should strive to the same kind of an informational sovereignty and I'm glad most of them are waking up.
As a matter of fact, achieving overal sovereignty is only possible to achieving independence in every strategic sphere, from the resources to the tech (at least in the most basic ways or on terms of a co-dependence with another country that lacks something you have for exhange on what you need), but that's a whole another story, and sorting out your informational technologies should be a priority in the modern world, especially considering it's not actually all that hard to mass produce a quality software engineers within a nation.
Isnt this why medicine is cheaper in other countries
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Switzerland is not part of the EU, your video description is false.
The description only says Switzerland is an european nation, not an EU member state
Switzerland is now part of the EU.
Stop crying little bitch, it says "two european nations" learn to read
@@railworksamerica no lol. we're definitely not part of the EU
@@SwissExperiments yes you are.
Also their infrastructure, Univention Corporate Server instead of Windows Server.
UCS domain instead of AD domain.
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