They say that they won't send the data back to Microsoft, but what about the models it derives from that data and the meta data? They will be getting something out of this or they wouldn't be ploughing so much money into it.
Local would only be true if there's no internet connection at all. But that would pretty much defeat the purpose of using a pc nowadays. I wonder if there would be a way of blocking all requests to M$ servers via a third party firewall or such.
After years of trying, our IT department has finally convinced the board of directors to start phasing out all Microsoft infrastructure in favour of Linux, starting with the servers (saving tens of thousands on licensing) and eventually all client PCs, too. Thr guys who rely heavily on Autocad and Adobe Creative apps will be on Mac OS. Goodbye Windows.
That's good. They should see if the MacOS users can run in Lockdown mode while still using MDM features for enterprise control. It's a good securityy alternative to Linux but there's still a lot of possible malware vectors for MacOS as it has become more popular.
so Microsoft not only wants to be intrusive with AI spyware but also they want to waste MY energy and battery processing the data? are computers going to be spyware servers?
They are saying the quiet part out loud now. It hurts to see my friends and family being ok with this and calling me crazy. It hurts to see my business clients being forced to run windows.
@@rhael42 degeneracy. We have an entire demographic of people who have learned nothing. Time is money and if your youth are not taught skills to maintain the infrastructure that maintains the current society, let alone any future, you are going to backslide. Look at the life expectancy of any america and watch it fall off a cliff.
Jeez, 25.6% space of a 1TB SSD just for this spyware. Sadly, this is for the consumer that is technology illiterate which is basically 90% of Microsoft's customer fanbase.
If microsoft wants to spy on us we should be able to spy on them. Let us see pre-release windows versions, all of their marketing strategies, blueprints for upcoming products, personal info of all their employees, logins for all their internal software, source code for everything they make, all of their financial information, etc etc.
Really seems like a solution in search of a problem. No one has ever thought "i wish my computer knew what i was doing six months ago at 10:17 AM", but now microsoft has decided that they want to harvest your minute by minute activity, they're pretending this is something everyone has been begging for.
I do? You've never searched your browser history because you needed to find something? -- The demo they showed was actually pretty impressive and showed a common consumer scenario, where the person was shopping online and had like 25 browser tabs open... and they closed them out and basically went back and were like, "Crap, can you show me the peacock looking dress, whatever it was, again?" and it pulled back up the dress. What was really interesting was it had no peacocks on it, but it was something like, "Oh you know, because it was blue, copilot understood what I meant..." -- I feel like this would make computers a lot easier to use... -- At the same time, it's quite scary to think of how the data could be scraped either officially or unofficially... -- so... going to have this turned off most of the time. lol
What do you mean? Google and Facebook are doing it for years. They even show you highlights "look this is you, exactly one year ago" or "don't you want to go to this place? You liked to spend to much time there". People were fine with it. Microsoft doing it is them being late to any trend once again
Dude get mint, pop, ubuntu. Any debian distro is good to start. You can also try something like endeavor os. Its based on arch but is a bit easier to set up.
crazy that they will use 50GB of your drive to store these pictures, and they probably have an algorithm that prioritize the "interesting" pics over the junk ones.
@@suspiciousstew1169 If you watched a video of that, then you'll find that. But it seems like you think they're taking pictures of the person behind the computer.
Windows 10 will be my last Windows Operating System. I've been dual booting Linux and I am thankful for Proton being developed so I can play all my video games.
You can thanks windows being shitty, making valve prefer to mamtain support for arch linux, instead of using windows for their steam OS Literally gaming on linux is possible thanks to microsoft!
@@no_name4796 proton would be a thing with or without valve. valve is becoming shitty these days too. they just took a shit ton of rocksmith dlc from me and many others.. just imagine how bad it will be when gaben retires, god forbid they go public.
12 months later: "We have updated our privacy policy to improve your experience by syncing everything with the cloud and sharing your data with our partners, please agree to the new TOS or we're revoking your Windows license."
Until One Drive decides to "back up" your data for "your" convenience and ""safety"". Or some update turns some new ""cloud"" AI BS from opt-in to opt-out, and then another one comes along and removes the option to opt-out entirely.
Thank you, Microsoft, for saving us millions in advertising. Microsoft will have single handedly increased Linux marketshare by at least 1% after this launches to more computers
Shout out to UA-camr Jody Bruchon who has been sounding the alarm on this for a while now. Little by little, Microsoft is chipping away at the concept that a computer and software you bought, with your files on it, belongs to you alone. I don't want to be 'that guy' but people should really consider finding a Linux distro that works for them and taking the plunge. Microsoft (and Apple...and Google) are not going to get any better.
Who remembers the movie "Total Recall"? Could this be used to implant 'evidence' either by a three letter agency or just malicious actors who want to target someone? With the local models of what and how you do stuff, it might be able to generate images of you doing naughty stuff and place it into an appropriate space in your 'timeline'.
I was thinking the opposite, that it could find bad actors being up to no good, but maybe that's unrealistic of me thinking that they would use Windows for such activities.
this is the case with everything. Look at politics, look at business, look at culture, society, all of it is rotting because the average person is too braindead to think further than "hurr durr the way I feel is most important!"
Its the equivalent of...Here's an automatic car with an E.C.U that tracks your every movement via Google data diagnosis. Or you could drive this old model stick shift . But they still choose the automatic because they can't drive a stick. (Windows vs Linux)
I am a user from Poland, and even though I live in the EU which has shown before that it can fight big tech for our rights, I am still STRONGLY considering swtiching to linux now. Most of the apps I wanna run are windows only, but I will make do with alternatives. Somehow I knew from the start that the whole "AI" bs will be just a pretext for companies to steal even more of our personal data.
Remember that You can always use a virtual machine if You cant get a proper alternative to a tool You need. Screw running anything microsoft on bare metal.
They will just propose to store the screenshots in the "cloud" as an alternative, most people will see this as a win because it will free 250gb of storage.
I don't get how screenshots even if every 5 seconds could use 250gb of storage. They don't need to be any more than 500KB big. And with a recall length of 1 month I doubt that even uses 25GB, unless my guessing here is totally off.
@@definingslawek4731 1000*12*60*12*30 for 1440p screenshots each 5secs for 30 day use with 12h of use each day, amounts to 259gb if I didn't do any mistake.
This leads to the unavoidable question, what are the alternatives? Keep in mind you have to factor in hardware chip spyware (Pluton) too. What laptop CPU and OS doesn't spy on you? MacOS and Windows OS spy on you via "Telemetry". MacOS is a little nicer since it stops when you adjust the settings. Sadly, most people do not and just run it out the box. Windows would run spyware even with all the setting off, but they don't do it often and usually during your most inactive times of the day.
"I'm sorry Dave, but the optional upgrade period has expired. It's now mandatory." NO! "Your computer may reboot several times during the upgrade. Do NOT turn it off, Dave."
@@akin242002Linux is the alternative lol. It doesn’t take some computer science genius to get it up and running, Microsoft’s workflow ecosystem is being phased out by google with its cloud services. So unless you need some adobe software or some very specific software that runs only on windows then going over to Linux is a million percent worth it.
As much i wish this i think the growth won't be that much, most consumers absolutely don't care. They scared when their 6th gen Intel CPU doesn't run Win 11 and run to the store to get the latest and greatest spyware OS machine.
@@f0x4nn3 That should be the wake-up call. They should be wondering WHY and realize the increased hardware-requirements are unnecessary. - Many do care (especially about ads and spyware) but just don't know. And a lot of people can't spare the money to just buy a whole new computer, so hopefully they will be looking for alternatives and find recommendations about Linux being a thing. - There are enough distros that made it really easy to both install and simply use the OS and also make about any system run better at that. - This is all the general population needs to know and they'll be willing to try the alternative, especially when it's free.
Wait until the Linux community realizes that Microsoft funds FOSS projects. Then they will need to look to people like Theo De Raadt who the military defunded, for good reason.
Linux already dominete mobile (Android), ChromeOS, consoles, iot, servers, mainframes, super computer, VR. Windows has only 62% of the destkop market in america
With all of the hype behind AI, leave it to Microsoft to make the most out-of-touch feature announcement of all time. This was someone's idea and they actually went through with it. Literally no one had a positive reaction to this.
Every time I think "I don't feel like switching to Linux, I'll just stay on Windows 11 and never update, it'll be okay" Microsoft does something horrible like this that will probably end up forcing me to make the switch (or dual boot at least). I really didn't want to learn an entirely new OS from scratch and deal with compatibility issues and stuff like that but Microsoft isn't really giving me a choice. Nobody needs any of this AI BS, I'm tired of hearing about it literally everywhere shoved down our throats. Stop the ride, I want off.
I'm not a giant Linux buff but unless you're gonna do ArchLinux or something it's really not that complicated, just intimidating for the uninitiated. You might actually have fun learning a new environment, I'd say to everyone who has never ever touched Linux before in their lives this would be the time to at least get a feel for it, just in case.
If you do make the jump, I would recommend Linux mint Cinnamon or Linux mint XFCE as it has an environment similar to windows, is debian-based(if your watching a tutorial on how to do something itll probably be using debian commands), and isnt a company-owned distro like Ubuntu
Windows 11 is too late. Windows 10 is already mostly spyware, but can be tweaked to block updates and maintain a certain degree of privacy. Windows 7 was the last Microsoft OS, where the user controlled the system by default and not vice versa. With Windows 11 there is no chance to avoid the watching eye of Microsoft. You should either switch to Linux or try to downgrade at least to Windows 10, better to Windows 7, if possible.
@@magister.mortran Oh believe me, I would've never left Windows 7 if it weren't for Steam and many other applications no longer supporting it because it's 15+ years old now. I miss those days.
Good luck finding a good linux computer! No seriously, it's so fucking hard. I mean there are system76, tuxedo, lenovo i think sells fedora computer, and some smaller ones. Edit: yes, i know linux is supported basically on any windows computer. But I don't want to pay a 100$ dollar for an OS i don't use. And also, there are so many small things, like bluetooth which work, but if on many devices, it stutters A LOT (i talk for personal experience) If i get a computer with linux preinstalled, i can be sure EVERYTHING works just right, as the manifacturer themselves made sure of it! And last but not least, i do want to buy a computer which support linux. I don't think it's such a crazy thing to want to do.
@@no_name4796 These days it's getting harder to find a machine that isn't supported by Linux. Unless you really want to use strange hardware that is specifically built for the Windows ecosystem and doesn't comply with industry standards, you shouldn't have any problems. I have yet to find a machine that I can't get Linux onto.
@@sas408 You can see what I'm talking about by just simply searching "Ads in Windows File Browser". Microsoft tried to claim that they "accidentally" turned the feature on and that it wasn't intended to go public. I wasn't personally affected, but I understand that if they're working on this "feature" in any capacity, it's only a matter of time before it makes its way downstream to everybody. No thanks.
Since we become more and more dependent of the internet, big techs like Google, Microsoft and Meta are building enviroments where they control everything, capture everything and catalog everyone. They are practically building the Matrix
Tell those fools to take their window curtains and blinds down if they have nothing to hide, so people they don't know can see what they are doing in their homes and businesses, and see they have nothing to hide.
Well, until someday you are in prison because somebody use your credential, id or whatever bank account to commit a crime. Good luck but until then, dont hide anything..
@@BastianXify do you mean what linux _distro_ is better for gaming? if that's the case, then, any distro will do just fine, but in terms of pre-packaged content and ease of use, PopOS or Nobara usually are the most mentioned for that
@@BastianXify realistically, the biggest benefit to "gaming" distros like PopOS, Nobara, Garuda is that they prompt you to get the proprietary Nvidia drivers at install, and usually will also get Steam's proton compatibility tool for you, along with many gaming apps preinstalled. If you want the easiest experience, those are the 3 that I recommend (along with Mint) from the big 3 branches of Linux (Debian, Fedora, and Arch). If you don't mind doing a little bit of googling on what packages to install, any distro can do it, though.
Skill issue, bro! Just learn how to read assembly and decompile every single bit of proprietary code that ever runs on your system. It'll only take about 200 hours! (I say this ironically, but I unironically do this for most closed-source apps I mess with lol)
I can't tell if you're being deliberately contrarian because you like Windows or because you live on the edge, by your own set of rules, because you're the coolest guy on the internet You're missing the bigger point here.
@@disky01 What's contrary about what I've said and how on earth does what said convey that I like windows? Edit: I think I got it? but no I'm just being pessimistic.
Great. Now I need to figure out what OS someone has before I communicate with them in any digital way whatsoever, regardless of communication channel. This is going to make my life so much easier.
@@another-niko-pfp-holder oh noo I loved bonzi! He was soo cute. And I always gave him all my info. Plus he was soo nice about it. He was my best friend, he talked to me everyday about everything - I think he was an extra special old school AI. I can't believe they turned off his servers. I don't know what to do now.
A while ago people were scared of putting their data onto cloud services. I always said they don't have enough compute power to actually go through all of that data. Well. I guess that's why they're putting it on the edge now. Easier to analyze and summarize the users content directly on their devices, and just pushing the results back...
Microsoft have pending patents for turning body activity data into cryptocurrency tokens. If you dont think they are already mining crypto on your PC and stealing everything they can you're naive. The last time I opened the windows firewall on Windows 10, it just opens all ports for every app that gets permission, it doesn't even bother setting specific rules for that app, this means that any app that is allowed through the firewall can communicate on any port to and from the computer on it's Local Area Network and if the WAN firewall is not set up properly (god forbid, but it happens very commonly in cheap companies) that means you have free access to everything on the network.
I just started my transition from Win to Linux recently, started with Zorin (very beginner friendly for former win users) and I am loving this, Learning new things, the declutter and flexibility to run what you want, without worrying about telemetry..it's beautiful 😇
You will also save money because you do not need to buy AV [anti virus] for Linux. Some good programs in Linux - NAPS2 : helps with any scanners. Okular: for reading pdfs Onboard: virtual keyboard good as a backup keyboard lollypop: music player GUFW: probably don't need a firewall in Linux but this is one anyway. Akregator: RSS feed tool
Bruh, must be some state actor talking out of their ass, Zorin OS sounds like some shitty ass shady as fuck linux distribution. Stick to the main stream linux distributions, if anyone is looking into this. Ask any LLM (AI) about it and you shall see I'm right and no amount of bot replies will be able to disprove me
@another-niko-pfp-holder I suspect people who were into the FOSS movement back in the 90s and took part in the incident in '99 have infiltrated MS and are finally bringing them down, if we're talking conspiracies. (OK I know this prolly isn't true but it's funny)
Can you really give a global corpo access to your device unconditionally? The NSA are fapping hard to this hardware and software announcement. Imagine MPSP automatically nuking your Fitgirl repacks, CODEX installs or your cracked games from 2009? Or flat out denying you playing that YFY or RARBG rip movie? The second hand PC market is going to get expensive.
What's worse is most people won't care about ReCall being spyware and won't even believe you till it's too late and it's affecting them personally. I was the same way.
@@anonemoose102 It seems you can disable it, but for now, it’s an opt out. However, considering it’s Microsoft, I can’t even be sure that turning it off really turns it off.
They said that it's all local, but i would not be surprised at all if that is either a lie or, if true, that they change it later. What a shame; if it were FOSS and i could trust it it seems like it would be a great technology
Me in 2020: 250GB SSD for windows + my old HDD for Linux should be enough Microsoft in 2024: just enough for my screenshots folder. Also you'll need a CPU with a 256TB L1 cache
Can't imagine my life without "AI" tool that will basicly waste disk resource to read and write. Waiting for future updates like eco-friendly miners and cloud based virginity. You never lose your virginity if it secured with cloud!
I pray that Recall and the Pluton processor lag like hell, create tons of junky data, and error out just like the rest of Microsoft's current software lineup.
Minimum requirements for future PC. At least two CPU, one dedicated and fully used by AI. At least two GPUs, one dedicated and fully used to process screen caps. At least 128GB RAM, 96GB used to store screen caps grabbed every millisecond for AI use. 1TB of SSD to store data mined by AI.
This is why I've nominated you for the 2024 Electronic Frontier Foundation Awards. Always appreciate your blunt, no BS security news that EVERYONE can benefit from, whether you're a 'techie' or not. If you (viewer) have ears, you need to listen. It's also nice to see similar minded thoughts be splattered in front of me wrapped up in a nice package. :) Welp, ya'll pick your OS's yet? Fedora just came out with something sweet. :)
TPM is not a backdoor. Its main purposes are to keep normies stuck in the Windows ecosystem and to help anticheat developers ban your hardwareID. The intel management engine and AMD platform security processor on the other hand might be a backdoors since they have unmitigated memory access and key logging.
TPM is not a backdoor. it is a secure enclave. Intel management engine IS a back door *small processor inside your processor with it's own kernal and os taht you have no real control over* amd has something similar.
Reminds me of Google announcing the ability that your phone can transcribe conversations even when the phone is in your backpocket as a "feature" when it honestly is an absolute nightmare for privacy.
Is a man not entitled to the work done in they PC? 'No!' says the man in Redmond, 'It belongs to the my company.' 'No!' says the man in Cupertino, 'It belongs to my company.' 'No!' says the man in Mountain View, 'It belongs to my company.' I rejected those answers. instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... Linux!
don't confuse your distaste for "walled gardens" with owning your data like Redmond or Mountain View. Apple practices intense data privacy policies. For those who do want cloud services for photos and AI and such, it will be the only choice available.
I'd heard about the Recall thing and it is ridiculous but I didn't know about the Pluton chip. Well named after Pluto - god of the underworld. I guess when they start rolling out all motherboards with these chips on them, we'll have to learn to Dremel them off if we want a new PC.
3:41 - Don't forget to mention that it will then also ACTUALLY run at a given system's potential. Because an OS "using resources because why not" means... yes, that the OS is using it, and not other programs. - So believe me, for those who don't know, you'll find out how fast your computer actually is once you use about any Linux-distro. My system ran fine with Windows 10, OK, but then I switched to Linux and it suddenly was a lot snappier than I thought it could be., just to realize that Windows was holding it back (or perhaps Windows in general is just a little more sluggish, even if well enough). - But most Linux-distros are very streamlined, even those with things pre-installed, and they just "go". - So don't rob yourself of more processing-potential when you have a choice, whether you have a system with current technology or something that might be 10-20 years old, they can all run better and without any ads and spyware at that. - It's just egregious that most people won't realize this and think their computers are slow and/or old when they have plenty of life in them as well.
I had a very expensive PC 15 years ago. I was using Win7. About 3 years ago I started having problems with new software as it was no longer "hardware compatible". Switched to linux and suddenly everything works as long as there's a linux version of it. I still struggle sometimes as I don't understand how coding works and just copy and paste other peoples code off the internet like an Indian engineer's github but I am absolutely amazed at my machine's ability to run basically non-stop.
Recall is not just taking screenshots, but also a machine learning model analyzing them and letting you search via text prompts to find the right thing. It's such a shame. This is a really cool concept but only if it can be completely trusted to respect your privacy. Being proprietary and made by Microsoft are two huge red flags. They say it's all local but I wouldn't be surprised if that's either a lie or they will start sending it to them in the future. If something like this was FOSS, that I could audit and make sure it isn't spying on me, it would be nice to have.
I mean...microsoft is not trustworthy. The ball has been rolling downhill for so long now. I doubt anyone who knows anything about microsoft will trust it.
@@vincei4252 I had that a my last sales job. Everyone's office room next to the boss' and we still wrote everything through slack. Then we also had to measure our own KPIs and post them honestly through Slack every "callblock" period of calling. If you ever want to experience judgement on enter-button-press, do something like that. Yeah, I don't work there anymore, either.
Not really. Companies can easily implement employee tracking with commercially available third party software. Doing this with a tool that is likely to mine this data and sell it is not in the company's interest.
@@vincei4252 For some reason my other answer got deleted. But yeah, it was really annoying. Essentially, we had calculate and post our own KPIs and other measurements of success in slack chat directly to our boss. If you ever want to feel what judgement per-button-press feels like, this is it. Nothing like having a week without sales and putting the final update through on friday. hahaha.
"Recall can even take you back to the exact location of the item you saw!" Just in case you needed the exact GPS coordinates. Somebody probably wants that right? Like oh I really liked those pants, now if I could just remember where my stationary desktop computer was PHYSICALLY located, that would be soooo useful.
Those three letter agencies don't need it. They can spy on you anytime they want and nothing you can do to stop them. If the CIA FBI AND NSA want to track you are in deep crap no matter what.
"Trust us" from the company that was founded on theft of CP/M and Stac Electronics's stacker disk compression to two at the foundation, that we know about. This is a classic "Boy and the rattlesnake" story.
How is Recall not 'AI' when it allows you to search through the image giving both text/visual matches? It's not just 'screenshots', they're analyzing the screenshots.
The common folk are getting confused by marketing. None of the 'AI' we are seeing is 'AI' it is all just machine learning algorithms, its smart mathematics that's all, no thinking involved, no trying to understand perspective, it's an analysis system and nothing more. So when the techs say this isn't AI they are telling the truth, its the marketing sphere that has lied and confused people about what is AI and what is not, it's just an extension of the Cryptocurrency scams.
@@f0x4nn3 It's not being used to train ML. -- MS has stated that your data is never used for model training. It's against their GDPR -- Instead the screenshots are used as an input to a multimodal generative AI -- a SLM (small language model) called Phi-3 (an open source language model) that runs locally on the NPU. -- Because it's multi-modal, it can process sound and pictures as well. The demos were quite impressive. Scary, but impressive.
It has long been established that any civilization willing to cooperate with being surveilled and taxed via their personal income, doesn't really mind being spied on at all.
So, instead of complaining about the hardware "security" features on current processors, to my knowledge there is The Intel Management Engine The AMD equivalent. The Snapdragon / Microsoft Pluton combination chip. But in contrast, you also have: ARM Ring 0 security solution. This one is different because my understanding is the firmware is open source. So this leaves: ARM processors (RK3588 is faster than most devices from earlier than 2016 or so, I believe, and there's always the Ampere Altra if you need more) PowerPC workstations Risc V processors (this one's a bit trickier because it will be vendor dependent and you would likely have to vet it yourself because there won't be as many eyes on the processor) And one major option I haven't seen anyone comment on. To my knowledge, the Intel Management Engine only applies to specific architectures (it's just annoying because all the consumer facing ones have it). For instance, I don't believe it's present in the same manner on enterprise hardware (used Xeons should be fine for the concerns about engines meant to monitor consumer applications), and to my knowledge it's also not present on offshoot architectures based on little cores. For instance, I think any N100 based mini-PC should be free of the Intel Management Engine. So, taken another way, doesn't this mean that we actually have way more options than most people think?
It's not what the Normie buys in the electronic store chain. You're already off-the-loop because you seek alternative sources. They don't care about the 1-2% like you slipping their net. Included in the Margin for Error. The neurotypical of tomorrow will be overseen and that's what matters to them.
I will start writing every program that I need to use including the OS. By the way, I need to make my own computer too from the motherboard to CPU to ram to hard drive because spyware can exist in embedded software also.
I mean, procesing all of the spyware data probably took a lot of resources on Microsofts cloud So thats why they decided to move that infrastructure client-side :D
People don't seem to realize this is just the beginning at some point you're not going to have as much say about this. If you use Windows today you already are giving up a lot of personal privacy this just pushes that precedent further. I feel for all the people going to school who will be forced to use M$ suites but knowing how handsy and close they are with the government that they won't be going anywhere or receive real public criticism for anything. Thank you Mental Outlaw for being such a great resource over the years
4:00 I’m not sure you understand the purpose of the screen shots. It is indeed AI. It’s running them through a computer vision model to semantically index them.
Yeah its doing that upon indexing, after they are indexed its a glorified spreadsheet with keywords. Its not an active AI that searches through the photos.
@@JackNormalMemes It literally is. Go read up on Phi-3 vision. I suspect you probably aren’t very knowledgeable about this technology. Doesn’t make it any less creepy, but pretending that this is just some screen shot app is ridiculous and uneducated.
Agreed, but they could delete the photos after getting the text of what is going on in the screen instead of archiving them. Hopefully It kinda does that already, who knows!
@@Joooooooooooosh Hopefully you are right. I remember microsoft fucking up the bing chat (powered by OAI's gpts) with the wrong temperature params and than making into the news about how batshit crazy it was to reporters.. I can't say its too far fetched to see a headline with "ms new pcs blue screen after a few days" and the reason behind it is because they turned the resolution down before storing it localy but didn't consider how much memory it would take up...
01:00 - Oh, hell. We all know Microsoft has long been bloated spyware shit-ware, but good God, this "AI recall" thing is just insane. And I don't trust for a second that ANYthing Windows-related stays "local machine". Subbed, BTW. Glad I stumbled in here, hung over.
It will run during battery recharge or if plugged in. The screenshots is stored locally. What they extract will be digested and sent to MS using different flag. But it will be sent up.
If this is only enough to consider switching, what the hell would it take to get you to switch? Sheesh, can't you see the frogs boiling in the pot by now?
Dagoth Ur: There will be no recall. Colonel Klink: but I have to use recall to stop another one of Hogan's escapes! Dagoth Ur: Colonel Klink it is not too late to surrender to my mercy.
"everything done locally" means they'll use your processing power to mine your data to send to Microsoft.
If you check what windows does in the background i wouldn't be surprised, it even calls home when you just open paint.
They say that they won't send the data back to Microsoft, but what about the models it derives from that data and the meta data? They will be getting something out of this or they wouldn't be ploughing so much money into it.
'local' doesn't mean much if they just have 24-7 access to your pc. You're just their server whenever your pc is turned on
@@escapetherace1943 Based.
Local would only be true if there's no internet connection at all. But that would pretty much defeat the purpose of using a pc nowadays. I wonder if there would be a way of blocking all requests to M$ servers via a third party firewall or such.
After years of trying, our IT department has finally convinced the board of directors to start phasing out all Microsoft infrastructure in favour of Linux, starting with the servers (saving tens of thousands on licensing) and eventually all client PCs, too. Thr guys who rely heavily on Autocad and Adobe Creative apps will be on Mac OS. Goodbye Windows.
Damn. These guys just secured their jobs for the rest of their life... Managing macs and a linux LDAP environment? :o
That's good. They should see if the MacOS users can run in Lockdown mode while still using MDM features for enterprise control. It's a good securityy alternative to Linux but there's still a lot of possible malware vectors for MacOS as it has become more popular.
Just stay away from red hat
@@2rx_bni still loads safer though. Nothing is ever going to be perfect
Your IT dept is based.
That's just an glorified Screenlogger
With AI it allows them to have context. You literally do have big brother watching you at all times
John Poindexter's Total Information Awareness and Soul Catcher 2025 don't see like such a conspiracy now do they.
Generally this is called a RAT (Remote Access Trojan) - it has a google page
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Stored locally. Until it’s not for “our own protection”
*To protect the terrorists and stop the children,or something like that
Until the government asks for more information 😅
so Microsoft not only wants to be intrusive with AI spyware but also they want to waste MY energy and battery processing the data? are computers going to be spyware servers?
No. Spyware clients, actually.
Toddler mentality.
@@yomammasaurusrex9571 Exactly. If you cant see what theyre doing, you must be at the toddler level of computing.
They are saying the quiet part out loud now.
It hurts to see my friends and family being ok with this and calling me crazy.
It hurts to see my business clients being forced to run windows.
@@qlippoth13bro how is that even relevant here?
It's all part of the plan for the AI takeover.
@@rhael42 degeneracy. We have an entire demographic of people who have learned nothing. Time is money and if your youth are not taught skills to maintain the infrastructure that maintains the current society, let alone any future, you are going to backslide. Look at the life expectancy of any america and watch it fall off a cliff.
Don't bother. It's just a d****** bot sent out there to say stupid s***.
@@qlippoth13 How is that even relevant here? How much terminally online edgy-conservative brain rot do you have
Sounds like they want to use everyone's computer as their remote cloud.
>botnet
They don't call it a botnet for nothing.
Sounds like communism
Just like your phone and amazon smart devices. No root access for you on the thing you paid for.
@@qlippoth13so just root your phone
Jeez, 25.6% space of a 1TB SSD just for this spyware. Sadly, this is for the consumer that is technology illiterate which is basically 90% of Microsoft's customer fanbase.
90% is probably a wildly conservative estimate, too.
This is fiver tier blink comparator analysis and it's just a stepping stone to a more invasive and effective predictive data acquisition using AI.
If microsoft wants to spy on us we should be able to spy on them. Let us see pre-release windows versions, all of their marketing strategies, blueprints for upcoming products, personal info of all their employees, logins for all their internal software, source code for everything they make, all of their financial information, etc etc.
I hate windows. I use it, not by choice.
Yeah but it's still a good thing. Creating a mainstream demand for AI focused consumer PC hardware brings down prices for everyone, even Linux users.
Really seems like a solution in search of a problem. No one has ever thought "i wish my computer knew what i was doing six months ago at 10:17 AM", but now microsoft has decided that they want to harvest your minute by minute activity, they're pretending this is something everyone has been begging for.
I do? You've never searched your browser history because you needed to find something? -- The demo they showed was actually pretty impressive and showed a common consumer scenario, where the person was shopping online and had like 25 browser tabs open... and they closed them out and basically went back and were like, "Crap, can you show me the peacock looking dress, whatever it was, again?" and it pulled back up the dress. What was really interesting was it had no peacocks on it, but it was something like, "Oh you know, because it was blue, copilot understood what I meant..." -- I feel like this would make computers a lot easier to use... -- At the same time, it's quite scary to think of how the data could be scraped either officially or unofficially... -- so... going to have this turned off most of the time. lol
@@BrainSlugs83you're right. But it doesn't change the fact it's intrusive as hell, and unnecessary bloat.
@@BrainSlugs83botnet
What do you mean? Google and Facebook are doing it for years. They even show you highlights "look this is you, exactly one year ago" or "don't you want to go to this place? You liked to spend to much time there". People were fine with it. Microsoft doing it is them being late to any trend once again
@@BrainSlugs83Why would I close tabs that I'm actively using.
Ive never been more motivated to switch my main OS to Linux.
It's easy so why not? You can keep an old version of Windows in VM or spare PC if useful. No one is obliged to run one OS.
Dude get mint, pop, ubuntu. Any debian distro is good to start. You can also try something like endeavor os. Its based on arch but is a bit easier to set up.
I started with Kubuntu as my new Linux OS and I'm loving it
@@Eddy-my3zf welcome to the spectacular world of free reign over your computer
@@Comm0ut Is it? I have the computer literacy of an 87 year old and very easily confused with anything regarding computers. I think I may be SOL
crazy that they will use 50GB of your drive to store these pictures, and they probably have an algorithm that prioritize the "interesting" pics over the junk ones.
imagine looking through the pictures and you see some dude beating his shit lmao
it starts at 50GB if you have a 1TB disk it takes by default 150GB
@@suspiciousstew1169 "Lets see what my son timmy was doing yesterday after piano clas- oh my"
@@suspiciousstew1169 Hopefully to puppy autopsy fetish content. Serves M$ right for trying to build the all seeing eye.
@@suspiciousstew1169 If you watched a video of that, then you'll find that. But it seems like you think they're taking pictures of the person behind the computer.
Windows 10 will be my last Windows Operating System. I've been dual booting Linux and I am thankful for Proton being developed so I can play all my video games.
You can thanks windows being shitty, making valve prefer to mamtain support for arch linux, instead of using windows for their steam OS
Literally gaming on linux is possible thanks to microsoft!
i swear i've seen this commented before, word for word... is this a bot?🤔
@@WackadoodL meds now
@@WackadoodL I see this comment in the butterfly meme: " is this a bot?" XD
@@no_name4796 proton would be a thing with or without valve. valve is becoming shitty these days too.
they just took a shit ton of rocksmith dlc from me and many others..
just imagine how bad it will be when gaben retires, god forbid they go public.
It's all stored locally... trust me bro!
12 months later: "We have updated our privacy policy to improve your experience by syncing everything with the cloud and sharing your data with our partners, please agree to the new TOS or we're revoking your Windows license."
"no, no. we meant the images are stored locally. the results of our analytics are sent to us for
I M P R O V I N G T H E P R O D U C T"
Of course it's stored locally, they want to use your own disk drive as *their* storage.
Until One Drive decides to "back up" your data for "your" convenience and ""safety"". Or some update turns some new ""cloud"" AI BS from opt-in to opt-out, and then another one comes along and removes the option to opt-out entirely.
@@jer1776 Revoking your Windows license is the best thing that could ever happen.
2026: Getting arrested for using linux
"linux is cancer" - someone
Imagine having to use tor to hide your are downloading linux 💀
I'd rather be in prison than use their complacent operating system
@@Xecto.it's less of a punishment to be imprisoned than use windows 😂
Google Map is watching you jaywalking. Of course Microsoft don't want to miss on what Google and Apple already doing.
Thank you, Microsoft, for saving us millions in advertising. Microsoft will have single handedly increased Linux marketshare by at least 1% after this launches to more computers
Im currently still using w10. But I honestly hope once I switch at eol alot of people will come with
@@micha-8659I know we've been yelling about this for over 30 years, but maybe 2025 is the year!
Worst case scenario, Linux marketshare is gonna double pal
I doubt it. Most people just use whatever comes with their computer, only us nerds use anything else.
I am using Windows and my next build PC will be all for Linux
Omg free key logging software! Sign me up!
That's already in Windows 11.
Actually it's Screenlogging wich is the Key-logger's sister
@@TheSolidSnakeOil you're late to the party. That was already in Windows 10.
Only free for a limited time! Hurry!
Paid* key logging software
At least Microsoft doesn't lie about it, OpenAI on the other hand should be called ClosedAI.
Finally someone said it
more like open-gay-i... no wait! OpenALie! we got it, that's the one
@@davidletarte214 In the future we will only be able to tell someone is real or AI is by how offensive their comment is :)
Well, it was supposed to be open source, until Microsoft came into the picture
Microsoft literally has openAI by the balls. Co-pilot uses gpt4 turbo.
Microsoft has fallen deep, and keeps going deeper.
-Some- all large companies go to to the Dark $ide, eventually
It's a race to the bottom and they have no competition.
Race to the bottom. It's like they already know they're going to lose the savvy market and are going full into the IQ 100 + gaming market.
Windows has fallen, bilions must install linux
They never were great
Shout out to UA-camr Jody Bruchon who has been sounding the alarm on this for a while now. Little by little, Microsoft is chipping away at the concept that a computer and software you bought, with your files on it, belongs to you alone. I don't want to be 'that guy' but people should really consider finding a Linux distro that works for them and taking the plunge. Microsoft (and Apple...and Google) are not going to get any better.
Who remembers the movie "Total Recall"? Could this be used to implant 'evidence' either by a three letter agency or just malicious actors who want to target someone? With the local models of what and how you do stuff, it might be able to generate images of you doing naughty stuff and place it into an appropriate space in your 'timeline'.
That did cross my mind. Imagine government agencies doing this to their political rivals. Easy way to get them out of you way.
I was thinking the opposite, that it could find bad actors being up to no good, but maybe that's unrealistic of me thinking that they would use Windows for such activities.
Microsoft somehow makes their fed os glow brighter yet again
No better than apple's contract with the F.B.I
Problem is, if Linux gets too mainstream, the glowies will inject more radium on it.
@@DonVigaDeFierro Feelsbadman
King terry approves.
Microsoft can literally tell their customers that they are spying on them, and people would still rather chew on broken glass than use Linux.
this is the case with everything. Look at politics, look at business, look at culture, society, all of it is rotting because the average person is too braindead to think further than "hurr durr the way I feel is most important!"
@@Rexhunterj I wonder why that could be...
@Rexhunterj Then the government did their job. The government keeps ldiots acting like ldiots so they can stay in office.
Its the equivalent of...Here's an automatic car with an E.C.U that tracks your every movement via Google data diagnosis. Or you could drive this old model stick shift . But they still choose the automatic because they can't drive a stick. (Windows vs Linux)
Right!?. .. wish linux had a better carrot to pull people rather than relying on windows stick to push them.
I am a user from Poland, and even though I live in the EU which has shown before that it can fight big tech for our rights, I am still STRONGLY considering swtiching to linux now. Most of the apps I wanna run are windows only, but I will make do with alternatives. Somehow I knew from the start that the whole "AI" bs will be just a pretext for companies to steal even more of our personal data.
linux jest bardzo prosty do nauczenia sie, zacznij moze od debiana a pozniej do archa przejdz
>Most of the apps I wanna run are windows only
What apps that you're using are windows only?
@@acc55547are there CAD apps for Linux ?
@@acc55547Probably things like photoshop, premiere pro, office, etc
Remember that You can always use a virtual machine if You cant get a proper alternative to a tool You need. Screw running anything microsoft on bare metal.
They will just propose to store the screenshots in the "cloud" as an alternative, most people will see this as a win because it will free 250gb of storage.
I don't get how screenshots even if every 5 seconds could use 250gb of storage. They don't need to be any more than 500KB big. And with a recall length of 1 month I doubt that even uses 25GB, unless my guessing here is totally off.
@@definingslawek4731 1000*12*60*12*30 for 1440p screenshots each 5secs for 30 day use with 12h of use each day, amounts to 259gb if I didn't do any mistake.
@@definingslawek4731 assuming constantly taking screenshots for 1 month, 30 days * 24 hours * 3600 secs / 5 secs * 500 KB = 259200000.0 KB = 250ish GB!
Personal Computer?
Microsoft's Computer!
Yup. They've become like Apple now, where you don't buy a computer, you just rent the right to use it.
Whoever cares even a little bit about their privacy / security, would not touch this commercial spyware with a 10 feet pole
This leads to the unavoidable question, what are the alternatives? Keep in mind you have to factor in hardware chip spyware (Pluton) too. What laptop CPU and OS doesn't spy on you? MacOS and Windows OS spy on you via "Telemetry". MacOS is a little nicer since it stops when you adjust the settings. Sadly, most people do not and just run it out the box. Windows would run spyware even with all the setting off, but they don't do it often and usually during your most inactive times of the day.
"I'm sorry Dave, but the optional upgrade period has expired. It's now mandatory."
NO!
"Your computer may reboot several times during the upgrade. Do NOT turn it off, Dave."
my dream of having affordable laptop that don't die in 3 hrs is never coming true.
@@akin242002 is a MacBook the only pc you can turn off telemetry?
@@akin242002Linux is the alternative lol. It doesn’t take some computer science genius to get it up and running, Microsoft’s workflow ecosystem is being phased out by google with its cloud services. So unless you need some adobe software or some very specific software that runs only on windows then going over to Linux is a million percent worth it.
Microsoft: Hey fellow kids, we heard you like streaming so we streamed everything you do 24/7 right to the glowies. You're welcome!
Oh no! Anyways i use linux
@@no_name4796 Who doesn't? Probably some smoothbrain idiot out there still on Windows lol. Who still falls for this scam in this day and age?
@@no_name4796Bet they will do this at the hardware level if they haven’t already.
@ArthurTheEpicGuy
I can't even say anything to that. Seeing how downhill provacy is going, it's strange they don't do that already
@@ArthurTheEpicGuy I'm sure it's already happening, the question is which gen of intel processors started doing it? I'm running on a gen 6 RN.
I can feel a shift in the OS market which is seeing the Linux adoption rate increasing.
As much i wish this i think the growth won't be that much, most consumers absolutely don't care.
They scared when their 6th gen Intel CPU doesn't run Win 11 and run to the store to get the latest and greatest spyware OS machine.
@@f0x4nn3idiots I says
@@f0x4nn3 That should be the wake-up call. They should be wondering WHY and realize the increased hardware-requirements are unnecessary. - Many do care (especially about ads and spyware) but just don't know. And a lot of people can't spare the money to just buy a whole new computer, so hopefully they will be looking for alternatives and find recommendations about Linux being a thing. - There are enough distros that made it really easy to both install and simply use the OS and also make about any system run better at that. - This is all the general population needs to know and they'll be willing to try the alternative, especially when it's free.
Wait until the Linux community realizes that Microsoft funds FOSS projects. Then they will need to look to people like Theo De Raadt who the military defunded, for good reason.
Linux already dominete mobile (Android), ChromeOS, consoles, iot, servers, mainframes, super computer, VR.
Windows has only 62% of the destkop market in america
With all of the hype behind AI, leave it to Microsoft to make the most out-of-touch feature announcement of all time. This was someone's idea and they actually went through with it. Literally no one had a positive reaction to this.
Microsoft Pluton -> A commercial botnet you paid for the license
Every time I think "I don't feel like switching to Linux, I'll just stay on Windows 11 and never update, it'll be okay" Microsoft does something horrible like this that will probably end up forcing me to make the switch (or dual boot at least).
I really didn't want to learn an entirely new OS from scratch and deal with compatibility issues and stuff like that but Microsoft isn't really giving me a choice. Nobody needs any of this AI BS, I'm tired of hearing about it literally everywhere shoved down our throats. Stop the ride, I want off.
Maybe try linux mint
I'm not a giant Linux buff but unless you're gonna do ArchLinux or something it's really not that complicated, just intimidating for the uninitiated. You might actually have fun learning a new environment, I'd say to everyone who has never ever touched Linux before in their lives this would be the time to at least get a feel for it, just in case.
If you do make the jump, I would recommend Linux mint Cinnamon or Linux mint XFCE as it has an environment similar to windows, is debian-based(if your watching a tutorial on how to do something itll probably be using debian commands), and isnt a company-owned distro like Ubuntu
Windows 11 is too late. Windows 10 is already mostly spyware, but can be tweaked to block updates and maintain a certain degree of privacy. Windows 7 was the last Microsoft OS, where the user controlled the system by default and not vice versa. With Windows 11 there is no chance to avoid the watching eye of Microsoft. You should either switch to Linux or try to downgrade at least to Windows 10, better to Windows 7, if possible.
@@magister.mortran Oh believe me, I would've never left Windows 7 if it weren't for Steam and many other applications no longer supporting it because it's 15+ years old now. I miss those days.
Oh yeah once my pc dies on windows 10 its Linux time
Good luck finding a good linux computer!
No seriously, it's so fucking hard.
I mean there are system76, tuxedo, lenovo i think sells fedora computer, and some smaller ones.
Edit: yes, i know linux is supported basically on any windows computer. But I don't want to pay a 100$ dollar for an OS i don't use. And also, there are so many small things, like bluetooth which work, but if on many devices, it stutters A LOT (i talk for personal experience)
If i get a computer with linux preinstalled, i can be sure EVERYTHING works just right, as the manifacturer themselves made sure of it!
And last but not least, i do want to buy a computer which support linux. I don't think it's such a crazy thing to want to do.
@@no_name4796 Just install Linux on the PC you already have
@@no_name4796 What are you talking about? Just install it yourself, it's not hard at all
@@no_name4796 These days it's getting harder to find a machine that isn't supported by Linux. Unless you really want to use strange hardware that is specifically built for the Windows ecosystem and doesn't comply with industry standards, you shouldn't have any problems. I have yet to find a machine that I can't get Linux onto.
It will be supported on BSD. Try NomadBSD or GhostBSD.
They lost me to Linux over a year ago when they started putting ads in the file browser. This just encourages me to never walk that decision back.
???????????
? bro you have an adware lmao, it wasnt microsoft putting ads
@@sas408 You can see what I'm talking about by just simply searching "Ads in Windows File Browser". Microsoft tried to claim that they "accidentally" turned the feature on and that it wasn't intended to go public. I wasn't personally affected, but I understand that if they're working on this "feature" in any capacity, it's only a matter of time before it makes its way downstream to everybody. No thanks.
Since we become more and more dependent of the internet, big techs like Google, Microsoft and Meta are building enviroments where they control everything, capture everything and catalog everyone. They are practically building the Matrix
"Built with zero trust principles"
You got that right.
"I have nothing to hide"
Yeah, i absolutely hate that argument.
Nothing to hide indeed, till your information is in a data breach and someone abused your info.
put a camera in your bathroom and stream it if you have nothing to hide
@@FeRoOOo71 you people can't read the quotation marks, can you? I hope you know what they mean?
Tell those fools to take their window curtains and blinds down if they have nothing to hide, so people they don't know can see what they are doing in their homes and businesses, and see they have nothing to hide.
Well, until someday you are in prison because somebody use your credential, id or whatever bank account to commit a crime. Good luck but until then, dont hide anything..
switched to linux mint 2 weeks ago, glad i did
welcome to the penguin club, my dude!
in that case, who are the best partition of linux? at least for gaming
@@BastianXify do you mean what linux _distro_ is better for gaming?
if that's the case, then, any distro will do just fine, but in terms of pre-packaged content and ease of use, PopOS or Nobara usually are the most mentioned for that
@@BastianXify realistically, the biggest benefit to "gaming" distros like PopOS, Nobara, Garuda is that they prompt you to get the proprietary Nvidia drivers at install, and usually will also get Steam's proton compatibility tool for you, along with many gaming apps preinstalled. If you want the easiest experience, those are the 3 that I recommend (along with Mint) from the big 3 branches of Linux (Debian, Fedora, and Arch).
If you don't mind doing a little bit of googling on what packages to install, any distro can do it, though.
Same here, so much better
When CoPilot gets exploited the hack will be Operation Lubitz
Yep!😂
ua-cam.com/video/510A3LKgfLU/v-deo.html
They knew it would be a scandal if they hid it, so they made it a "feature", a very logical move.
Many Linux distributions have gotten much better over the years. They are actually quite useable.
One more reason to validate my move off windows to Linux
0:43 All software is spy/malware until proven otherwise, and you can't easily prove otherwise if it's closed.
Skill issue, bro! Just learn how to read assembly and decompile every single bit of proprietary code that ever runs on your system. It'll only take about 200 hours! (I say this ironically, but I unironically do this for most closed-source apps I mess with lol)
I can't tell if you're being deliberately contrarian because you like Windows or because you live on the edge, by your own set of rules, because you're the coolest guy on the internet
You're missing the bigger point here.
@@Ginfidel true.
@@disky01 What's contrary about what I've said and how on earth does what said convey that I like windows?
Edit: I think I got it? but no I'm just being pessimistic.
@@disky01 I'm also being ironic. Nobody in their right mind would do what I do. There's literally something wrong with me lmao
why are so many bots commenting this video
Bots powered by copilot
Proof
Something similar happened when I tweeted about this topic
bleep bloop
They’ve been everywhere lately. Especially the ones where the avi is 90% boob lmao
Great. Now I need to figure out what OS someone has before I communicate with them in any digital way whatsoever, regardless of communication channel.
This is going to make my life so much easier.
Yeah dude. I'd rather have Bonzi Buddy spying on me than Copilot.
Bonzi's servers are down now I believe. So it's 100% more secure.
purple monki > bland ai
@@another-niko-pfp-holder oh noo I loved bonzi! He was soo cute. And I always gave him all my info. Plus he was soo nice about it.
He was my best friend, he talked to me everyday about everything - I think he was an extra special old school AI. I can't believe they turned off his servers. I don't know what to do now.
A while ago people were scared of putting their data onto cloud services. I always said they don't have enough compute power to actually go through all of that data.
Well. I guess that's why they're putting it on the edge now. Easier to analyze and summarize the users content directly on their devices, and just pushing the results back...
Microsoft have pending patents for turning body activity data into cryptocurrency tokens.
If you dont think they are already mining crypto on your PC and stealing everything they can you're naive.
The last time I opened the windows firewall on Windows 10, it just opens all ports for every app that gets permission, it doesn't even bother setting specific rules for that app, this means that any app that is allowed through the firewall can communicate on any port to and from the computer on it's Local Area Network and if the WAN firewall is not set up properly (god forbid, but it happens very commonly in cheap companies) that means you have free access to everything on the network.
I just started my transition from Win to Linux recently, started with Zorin (very beginner friendly for former win users) and I am loving this, Learning new things, the declutter and flexibility to run what you want, without worrying about telemetry..it's beautiful 😇
You will also save money because you do not need to buy AV [anti virus] for Linux. Some good programs in Linux -
NAPS2 : helps with any scanners.
Okular: for reading pdfs
Onboard: virtual keyboard good as a backup keyboard
lollypop: music player
GUFW: probably don't need a firewall in Linux but this is one anyway.
Akregator: RSS feed tool
Bruh, must be some state actor talking out of their ass, Zorin OS sounds like some shitty ass shady as fuck linux distribution. Stick to the main stream linux distributions, if anyone is looking into this. Ask any LLM (AI) about it and you shall see I'm right and no amount of bot replies will be able to disprove me
no its not beautiful
@@musicalneptunian that's valuable info 🙌 Thank you...
Everyday iam learning
wow Microsoft are so kind they went people to install linux 😊
They even have written a tutorial on how to do that 😂
@@exodowOne of their employees decided they had enough of this bullshit
@another-niko-pfp-holder I suspect people who were into the FOSS movement back in the 90s and took part in the incident in '99 have infiltrated MS and are finally bringing them down, if we're talking conspiracies. (OK I know this prolly isn't true but it's funny)
Proof?
Valve's steam deck is amazing for introducing people to Linux
it runs kde plasma iirc, wich looks really nice and is in my opinion, one of the best distro's along with mint and zorin due to ease of use/setup
Holy shit I didn't realize this wasn't a joke, Recall feels too much like a parody.
MAH, THE GUY THAT DOES 360'S IN EPIC BROWSER GAME IS HERE!
Can you really give a global corpo access to your device unconditionally? The NSA are fapping hard to this hardware and software announcement.
Imagine MPSP automatically nuking your Fitgirl repacks, CODEX installs or your cracked games from 2009? Or flat out denying you playing that YFY or RARBG rip movie?
The second hand PC market is going to get expensive.
What's worse is most people won't care about ReCall being spyware and won't even believe you till it's too late and it's affecting them personally.
I was the same way.
I hope users can just disable copilot+, that's my plan at least...
@@anonemoose102 It seems you can disable it, but for now, it’s an opt out. However, considering it’s Microsoft, I can’t even be sure that turning it off really turns it off.
@@anonemoose102You can disable it until it gets suddenly reenabled in the next update. I will never trust Microsoft again.
Is it spyware, though?
@@Diogo85 Yes. Your data is gold.
imagine: the processing is done locally but the results are sent to microsoft
They said that it's all local, but i would not be surprised at all if that is either a lie or, if true, that they change it later. What a shame; if it were FOSS and i could trust it it seems like it would be a great technology
@@wilh3lmmusic If I could install it myself from Github as needed, then yes, a, maybe, fun tool.
Imagine? More like reality
@@wilh3lmmusic Because it requires so much storage space and power, Microsoft will move it to the cloud. "Plan change boooys, so sorry. Reallly!"
definitely what is going to happen. saves them on compute cost and bandwidth
Me in 2020: 250GB SSD for windows + my old HDD for Linux should be enough
Microsoft in 2024: just enough for my screenshots folder. Also you'll need a CPU with a 256TB L1 cache
Well, great Linux advertisement! Best ever in fact... 😂
Can't imagine my life without "AI" tool that will basicly waste disk resource to read and write. Waiting for future updates like eco-friendly miners and cloud based virginity. You never lose your virginity if it secured with cloud!
Install Linux and your virginity will gain immortality.
I pray that Recall and the Pluton processor lag like hell, create tons of junky data, and error out just like the rest of Microsoft's current software lineup.
Bruh! I totally forgot about BonziBuddy!
He wants to be your friend!
Now it goes by the name "Cortana"
I remember that shit like it was yesterday 😂😂
Minimum requirements for future PC.
At least two CPU, one dedicated and fully used by AI.
At least two GPUs, one dedicated and fully used to process screen caps.
At least 128GB RAM, 96GB used to store screen caps grabbed every millisecond for AI use.
1TB of SSD to store data mined by AI.
This is why I've nominated you for the 2024 Electronic Frontier Foundation Awards. Always appreciate your blunt, no BS security news that EVERYONE can benefit from, whether you're a 'techie' or not. If you (viewer) have ears, you need to listen. It's also nice to see similar minded thoughts be splattered in front of me wrapped up in a nice package. :) Welp, ya'll pick your OS's yet? Fedora just came out with something sweet. :)
Full time linux should really be the standard moving forward. I cant wait to get windows off this desktop
TPM is and will always be a backdoor. Might as well be considered a boot rom exploit
Intel Management Engine and AMD Platform Security Processor are also exploits open to the world. If it's reachable, it's breachable.
How is TPM a backdoor? Also i forgot what TPM even is, is it for virtualization
TPM is not a backdoor. Its main purposes are to keep normies stuck in the Windows ecosystem and to help anticheat developers ban your hardwareID. The intel management engine and AMD platform security processor on the other hand might be a backdoors since they have unmitigated memory access and key logging.
TPM is not a backdoor. it is a secure enclave. Intel management engine IS a back door *small processor inside your processor with it's own kernal and os taht you have no real control over* amd has something similar.
@@CotyRiddle thanks for the clarification!
yo ma boi clippy was gangsta af
Reminds me of Google announcing the ability that your phone can transcribe conversations even when the phone is in your backpocket as a "feature" when it honestly is an absolute nightmare for privacy.
Is a man not entitled to the work done in they PC? 'No!' says the man in Redmond, 'It belongs to the my company.' 'No!' says the man in Cupertino, 'It belongs to my company.' 'No!' says the man in Mountain View, 'It belongs to my company.'
I rejected those answers. instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... Linux!
don't confuse your distaste for "walled gardens" with owning your data like Redmond or Mountain View. Apple practices intense data privacy policies. For those who do want cloud services for photos and AI and such, it will be the only choice available.
No Big Tech or AI. Only Man.
I'd heard about the Recall thing and it is ridiculous but I didn't know about the Pluton chip. Well named after Pluto - god of the underworld. I guess when they start rolling out all motherboards with these chips on them, we'll have to learn to Dremel them off if we want a new PC.
That’s too resource heavy. Bring on the ThinkPads. Let us all convert to Linux!
Also your videos are a Godsend.
I don't want to do that.
@@Diogo85Why not?
@@another-niko-pfp-holder Because I like both new and old media and we have things now that we didn't have back when we were kids.
@@Diogo85 okay, how does that relate to linux in any way…?
3:41 - Don't forget to mention that it will then also ACTUALLY run at a given system's potential. Because an OS "using resources because why not" means... yes, that the OS is using it, and not other programs. - So believe me, for those who don't know, you'll find out how fast your computer actually is once you use about any Linux-distro. My system ran fine with Windows 10, OK, but then I switched to Linux and it suddenly was a lot snappier than I thought it could be., just to realize that Windows was holding it back (or perhaps Windows in general is just a little more sluggish, even if well enough). - But most Linux-distros are very streamlined, even those with things pre-installed, and they just "go". - So don't rob yourself of more processing-potential when you have a choice, whether you have a system with current technology or something that might be 10-20 years old, they can all run better and without any ads and spyware at that. - It's just egregious that most people won't realize this and think their computers are slow and/or old when they have plenty of life in them as well.
I had a very expensive PC 15 years ago. I was using Win7.
About 3 years ago I started having problems with new software as it was no longer "hardware compatible".
Switched to linux and suddenly everything works as long as there's a linux version of it.
I still struggle sometimes as I don't understand how coding works and just copy and paste other peoples code off the internet like an Indian engineer's github but I am absolutely amazed at my machine's ability to run basically non-stop.
"Recall, what's the name of that Netflix series I was watching last night?"
"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that. It's DRM."
Recall is not just taking screenshots, but also a machine learning model analyzing them and letting you search via text prompts to find the right thing.
It's such a shame. This is a really cool concept but only if it can be completely trusted to respect your privacy. Being proprietary and made by Microsoft are two huge red flags. They say it's all local but I wouldn't be surprised if that's either a lie or they will start sending it to them in the future. If something like this was FOSS, that I could audit and make sure it isn't spying on me, it would be nice to have.
I mean...microsoft is not trustworthy. The ball has been rolling downhill for so long now. I doubt anyone who knows anything about microsoft will trust it.
Can you imagine the opportunities for being micro managed at work if you have the misfortune of being required to use Windows.
You clearly haven't worked with a team yet, that uses Google Slack and is on each other's case every other single fucking minute.
@@Mayhzon I called it quits a few days ago when I was outside touching grass. You are absolutely right, I have never used Slack so I can only imagine.
@@vincei4252
I had that a my last sales job.
Everyone's office room next to the boss' and we still wrote everything through slack.
Then we also had to measure our own KPIs and post them honestly through Slack every "callblock" period of calling. If you ever want to experience judgement on enter-button-press, do something like that.
Yeah, I don't work there anymore, either.
Not really. Companies can easily implement employee tracking with commercially available third party software. Doing this with a tool that is likely to mine this data and sell it is not in the company's interest.
@@vincei4252
For some reason my other answer got deleted.
But yeah, it was really annoying. Essentially, we had calculate and post our own KPIs and other measurements of success in slack chat directly to our boss.
If you ever want to feel what judgement per-button-press feels like, this is it.
Nothing like having a week without sales and putting the final update through on friday. hahaha.
Proprietary cryptography, what could go wrong?
I completely forgot about Bonsai Buddy 😂thing slowed your computer down to a halt.
"Recall can even take you back to the exact location of the item you saw!" Just in case you needed the exact GPS coordinates. Somebody probably wants that right? Like oh I really liked those pants, now if I could just remember where my stationary desktop computer was PHYSICALLY located, that would be soooo useful.
I'd imagine certain 3 letter agencies would be very interested in this data when building a case against a certain user.
Case? Who needs a case? That's what Guantanamo's for, baby.
@@Äpple-pie-5k I wonder what it's like to get waterboarded to death by my own country.
Those three letter agencies don't need it. They can spy on you anytime they want and nothing you can do to stop them. If the CIA FBI AND NSA want to track you are in deep crap no matter what.
They don't need this. Those dirtbags will spy on you regardless.
@@trippybruh1592That's too kind.
*Think biotestesting and psychological torture*
All this AI is just "oh how do we get even more spying power onto these devices"? Convince me otherwise, protip you can't.
I thought it was just a buzz word to properly shank retail investors for their money, but that works too.
Is it?
You forgot. They said you can trust them. Quit freaking out!
"Trust us" from the company that was founded on theft of CP/M and Stac Electronics's stacker disk compression to two at the foundation, that we know about. This is a classic "Boy and the rattlesnake" story.
How is Recall not 'AI' when it allows you to search through the image giving both text/visual matches? It's not just 'screenshots', they're analyzing the screenshots.
It could be AI indeed if it gets used as ML training data. It's still a big WTF tho.
The common folk are getting confused by marketing. None of the 'AI' we are seeing is 'AI' it is all just machine learning algorithms, its smart mathematics that's all, no thinking involved, no trying to understand perspective, it's an analysis system and nothing more.
So when the techs say this isn't AI they are telling the truth, its the marketing sphere that has lied and confused people about what is AI and what is not, it's just an extension of the Cryptocurrency scams.
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@@f0x4nn3 It's not being used to train ML. -- MS has stated that your data is never used for model training. It's against their GDPR -- Instead the screenshots are used as an input to a multimodal generative AI -- a SLM (small language model) called Phi-3 (an open source language model) that runs locally on the NPU. -- Because it's multi-modal, it can process sound and pictures as well. The demos were quite impressive. Scary, but impressive.
Calm down everyone. Microsoft said you can trust it.
Me and the bois finally migrating to Linux with this one
It has long been established that any civilization willing to cooperate with being surveilled and taxed via their personal income, doesn't really mind being spied on at all.
So, instead of complaining about the hardware "security" features on current processors, to my knowledge there is
The Intel Management Engine
The AMD equivalent.
The Snapdragon / Microsoft Pluton combination chip.
But in contrast, you also have:
ARM Ring 0 security solution. This one is different because my understanding is the firmware is open source.
So this leaves:
ARM processors (RK3588 is faster than most devices from earlier than 2016 or so, I believe, and there's always the Ampere Altra if you need more)
PowerPC workstations
Risc V processors (this one's a bit trickier because it will be vendor dependent and you would likely have to vet it yourself because there won't be as many eyes on the processor)
And one major option I haven't seen anyone comment on.
To my knowledge, the Intel Management Engine only applies to specific architectures (it's just annoying because all the consumer facing ones have it). For instance, I don't believe it's present in the same manner on enterprise hardware (used Xeons should be fine for the concerns about engines meant to monitor consumer applications), and to my knowledge it's also not present on offshoot architectures based on little cores. For instance, I think any N100 based mini-PC should be free of the Intel Management Engine.
So, taken another way, doesn't this mean that we actually have way more options than most people think?
It's not what the Normie buys in the electronic store chain.
You're already off-the-loop because you seek alternative sources. They don't care about the 1-2% like you slipping their net. Included in the Margin for Error.
The neurotypical of tomorrow will be overseen and that's what matters to them.
I will start writing every program that I need to use including the OS.
By the way, I need to make my own computer too from the motherboard to CPU to ram to hard drive because spyware can exist in embedded software also.
They’ll still throw you in prison if they want to at the end of the day.
make sure to manufacture your own CPU! that'll be funny to watch you try
I mean, procesing all of the spyware data probably took a lot of resources on Microsofts cloud
So thats why they decided to move that infrastructure client-side
:D
I was waiting on this video as soon as this presentation came out. Thank you for blessing us.
People don't seem to realize this is just the beginning at some point you're not going to have as much say about this. If you use Windows today you already are giving up a lot of personal privacy this just pushes that precedent further. I feel for all the people going to school who will be forced to use M$ suites but knowing how handsy and close they are with the government that they won't be going anywhere or receive real public criticism for anything. Thank you Mental Outlaw for being such a great resource over the years
It is to late.
4:00 I’m not sure you understand the purpose of the screen shots. It is indeed AI. It’s running them through a computer vision model to semantically index them.
Yeah its doing that upon indexing, after they are indexed its a glorified spreadsheet with keywords. Its not an active AI that searches through the photos.
@@JackNormalMemes It literally is. Go read up on Phi-3 vision. I suspect you probably aren’t very knowledgeable about this technology. Doesn’t make it any less creepy, but pretending that this is just some screen shot app is ridiculous and uneducated.
Agreed, but they could delete the photos after getting the text of what is going on in the screen instead of archiving them. Hopefully It kinda does that already, who knows!
@@o1-preview it would have to or else you’d be out of hard disk space in days
@@Joooooooooooosh Hopefully you are right. I remember microsoft fucking up the bing chat (powered by OAI's gpts) with the wrong temperature params and than making into the news about how batshit crazy it was to reporters..
I can't say its too far fetched to see a headline with "ms new pcs blue screen after a few days" and the reason behind it is because they turned the resolution down before storing it localy but didn't consider how much memory it would take up...
I miss the old days, when an OS was really just an OS. No spyware and all that crappy bloatware.
Old days are still here, you just forgot about Linux and macOS.
Microsoft putting effort spying on their users
* gasp * pretends to be shocked
01:00 - Oh, hell. We all know Microsoft has long been bloated spyware shit-ware, but good God, this "AI recall" thing is just insane. And I don't trust for a second that ANYthing Windows-related stays "local machine". Subbed, BTW. Glad I stumbled in here, hung over.
it doesn't "just take screenshots". it takes screenshots that the ai can search with ocr and image recognition.
Ccp would like to steal this idea.
why would they steal it when Microsoft will just sell it directly to them?
@@rhael42Or they can just hack Microsoft like they have before and have access to all of that data.
Plot twist: microsoft was influenced by the ccp
@beach2787
First, they laugh at you...
They might as well start naming users as victims in their databases
AI = Always-ON Inquiry.
It will run during battery recharge or if plugged in. The screenshots is stored locally. What they extract will be digested and sent to MS using different flag. But it will be sent up.
I'm kind of glad that Microsoft is doing stuff like this because its making my family seriously consider switching to Linux
If this is only enough to consider switching, what the hell would it take to get you to switch? Sheesh, can't you see the frogs boiling in the pot by now?
Linux is about to get a lot more popular.
They should but they won't. People do not care.
Dagoth Ur: There will be no recall.
Colonel Klink: but I have to use recall to stop another one of Hogan's escapes!
Dagoth Ur: Colonel Klink it is not too late to surrender to my mercy.
What a grand and intoxicating innocence
Are they doing this on propose so that people switch to Linux ?
No, they're banking on normie complacency. A strong bet with good winning odds. We'll see.
To Mac computers *
It certainly seems that way. Bring on the unhinged conspiracy theories lol.
I was just waiting for him to post the video when I saw the news. Great content keep it up love your work!
This is the video that convinced me to move to Linux on my main pc