The Doctor in court | Extended Version | The Trial of a Time Lord | Doctor Who
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- The TARDIS is plucked out of time and space by a mysterious beam of light, materialising inside a Gallifreyan space station. There the Doctor find himself in the familar company of Time Lords. Subscribe: bit.ly/SubscribeToDoctorWho
Unfortunately the Doctor is in a court room and it is he who is on trial! Accused of conduct unbecoming a time lord and transgressing the first law - meddling in the affairs of other peoples and planets.
Classic Doctor Who clip first broadcast 06/09/1986
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Still one of the greatest model shots the classic series ever did.
More like- Still the best example of visual effects in Doctor Who's history.
All the comments are talking about the budget because of that excellent opening shot, but no one praises the stellar writing in this opening dialogue alone. R.I.P. Robert Holmes
Agreed! My favorite Who (and Blake's 7) writer.
@@koomo801 Holmes was one of the best writers.
The line "I was being the fear you'd lost yourself" is so cheeky, especially after the reveal that the valleyard IS the doctor and he was searching for the doctor, so in a way he's saying he was fearing that he'd lost the doctor
Because most (especially the mongs who prefer New Who) are all style over substance, superficial imbeciles.
For Doctor Who's most expensive special effect, it certainly holds up very well to this day.
In fact I believe this better than digital effects of today. "Fantastic!"
MaddoxProductions1 at the time that opening effect was leading edge. As much as I have enormous disdain for JNT, Trial of a Time Lord is one of my favorite stories.
It looked like Red Dwarf.
It must of used alot of Thier budget
@@ryankennett2072 Eh, the 1996 US TV Movie With the Pertwee Logo spent 90% of its budget on the TARDIS console room, per the Complete(ly Useless) Encyclopedia....
Dat opening model shot. Like, seriously, DAT OPENING MODEL SHOT.
Looks like Red Dwarf.
That was the BBC's first use of motion control camera equipment to achieve those sweeping shots of the space station model and it remains most impressive. As poor as the whole Trial season turned out to be, this opening was one hell of a way to introduce the whole thing. The musical score was perfect for the scene as well.
I've a feeling it was the most expensive special effects sequence ever done in classic Who...
Doctor Who returns after an 18 month hiatus (no thanks to the Doctor's real greatest foe, Michael Grade) and opens with a fantastic model sequence.
Michael Grade is an idiot of the lowest caliber imaginable.
Actually it's completely thanks to Michael Grade. He is the one who brought the show back actually. He didn't end Doctor Who, he ended Colin's Doctor.
Now his protege Chris Chibnall is taking over
But the hiatus was really under the instigation of Jonathan Powell, who is rarely mentioned in DW circles.
@@timepoet77 Michael (low greed) Grade is a life form of the lowest mentality and taste that it is beyond imagination, his IQ is expressed in a negative number with a large mantissa. How he acquired a peerage as the The Lord Grade of Yarmouth on the Isle of Wright is unfathomable. Although knighthood would be more apropos to some it's still unthinkable travesty. Imprisonment in The Tower of London is too good for him.
I love how fake Six's bluster is here, like when he goes to politely knock on the door then barges through, and when he nearly stands for the Inquisitor then pretends he was just shifting. Colin did really well with what he was given. Kinda reminds me of Five's snarking as though he's in control in the Caves of Androzani.
not surprised bit similar, both written by robert holmes,
To me, this is almost like a foreshadow of where Doctor Who *could've* gone with it's special effects, soundtrack and storytelling if the BBC actually gave them sufficient funding. Colin's Doctor really grew and matured during his second series and it was downright unfair to kick him out just as the audience was really beginning to like him. Dominic Glynn's soundtrack for this was also fantastic and it saddens me that Colin couldn't get at least another series of being the Doctor.
Oh well, there's always Big Finish I suppose.
+Andrew Ford Indeed let alone that his incarnation was the one was the only one to come face to face with his ultimate foe and advisery known as the Valeyard.
+Andrew Ford Well said. Just when things were starting to get really good, they pulled the plug and Colin went into obscurity. Thank god for Big Finish. He is and always will be my favourite Doctor.
I personally feel as though his era was unsettled and unstable. Although that really isn't Colin's fault. He had an interesting take on The Doctor, he had enough acting chops to pull it off but...thats pretty much as far as my love for his Doctor goes. If only they gave him a good costume, then I'd say I have no problems with his Doctor.
Although, he and Paul McGann are, in my opinion, the two worst treated Doctors when it comes to writing and where they COULD'VE gone with it. McGann is worse because...I can point to about one or two stories from Colin's era thats good (Vengeance On Varos, Mindwarp, The Two Doctors is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me, but thats mainly because Patrick Troughton is my favourite Doctor and seeing him again is enough for me to enjoy it) McGann had NOTHING when it comes to his TV appearances.
Morbius Fitzgerald
I think the reason why I love Colin's Doctor so much is because when I first saw him on TV I could kind of relate to him. As a kid I used to have a rather "colourful" dress sense, I was easily aggravated, I loved getting attention and I didn't care if people hated me for it (kind of like Colin's Doctor). Although, looking back it's fair to say that he was very mistreated and he was certainly never given a fair chance. If he had the opportunity to play the Doctor how *he* wanted, I honestly believe that he would've been up there with the likes of Patrick Troughton, Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker; who are arguably the three most iconic Classic Doctors.
Same goes for McGann. He was the one bright light in an otherwise mediocre effort at trying to bring Doctor Who back to television screens. I've listened to some of their best Big Finish audio stories and I have to say that out of all the Doctors both 6 and 8 are the standouts. To have seen some of those stories brought to life during their era's would've been amazing. Fingers crossed for an 8th Doctor mini-series.
I agre
2:30
They effectively killed him and exiled him to Earth.
Whats lenient about that?
That he wasn't actually dead?
What the Valeyard's really saying is "I want this guy to die a long and horrible death and I will put on a show to make it look like he kinda sorta mighta deserved it so my peasants don't revolt when I take over the universe." The high council's saying that too but they don't know he's not on their side so he has them at a disadvantage. :D
I love villains.
That is an lower form of punishment for breaking the 1st law of timelords. They could've took all his lives or vaporized him.
+The Game Lords Let alone transeferring his regenerations to the Valeyard himself or even worse. Symbolicly The ownership of the Tardis.
FLAME4564 Yes, those could be othe punishments as well
Oh they were talking about the 2nd and 3rd Doctor? Wow, I didn't realize that, I was like "what the hell did I miss?" :D
I like how he did not even try to deny the breaking the first law of time.
Honestly, considering he was being manipulated in Five Doctors and was sent by THE TIME LORDS THEMSELVES in Three Doctors, only Two Doctors should actually count as breaking it.
+RassilonTDavros Even then, I'd say Two Doctors doesn't count either because Troughton's Doctor was there to serve The Time Lords, it all went balls up and 6 just happened to feel it and try to save him.
However the first law of time was not to intefere with time in any sense. Yeah, The Doctor can't deny not doing that.
+Morbius Fitzgerald
I thought Troughton's Doctor was under the protection of the CIA for Season 6B?
or am I getting my expanded universe mixed up?
TheSkully343 yep you're right, two doctors is set during season 6B
Well he could hardly deny it when he'd already been convicted of doing it before in his second incarnation.
0:00 - 0:35 Yes! Doctor Who finally has a budget.
0:38 Onwards... Oh never mind ._.
Special effects don't matter unless the story is good. A lot of BBC productions had low special effects budgets and yet they produced some of the best programs ever committed to celluloid, if you wanted endless special effects with hollow stories that was America's province.
I don't understand the criticism that Doctor Who has crappy special effects. The practical effects of the 70s and 80s are obviously not movie budget, but all the same I think they're quite good, and certainly have held up better than any of the CGI from the RTD era, arguably even early Matt Smith era.
@@UnchainedEruption when as much time passes between the Davies era as has done with this series I guarantee people will be defending it in the exact same way.
You've experienced first hand exactly why people thought the effects were terrible back then- they simply didn't stand up to productions with a far higher SFX budget.
Edit: I should clarify, I adore both but I'm under no illusion they can often look pretty janky at times
@@bezzaderbane9890 Or committed to ferric oxide.
@@UnchainedEruption I wouldn't say they are better than the nuwho effects but they aren't as corny. Nuwho definitely has better effects imo but it just falls into the modern CGI trap of making everything elaborate and large scale. Some nuwho stuff is like it's out of star wars or something with the all the spaceships and giant galaxy explosions and sprawling cities and swarms of monsters and there is none of that in the old series, nothing with that dramatic scale, which is better imo because it is less over the top.
The effects in classic aren't bad at all and most of them *I prefer* to nuwho effects but I believe aren't as good, I just prefer them aesthetically, mostly non-practical effects like lasers and stuff or stop motion. I think anything with explosions really is better in the old with practical pyrotechnics and there are several instances with model shots and a few times even costumes that are better than in nuwho.
This very much reminds me of the High Budget CGI sequence at the start of World Enough and Time. The Long camera pans and the Tardis materialising.
I love how The Doctor is acting like he is going to knock and then just slams the door open and walks through.
Underrated story, underrated Doctor....nothing can touch this in the last ten years.... and the excellent Michael Jayston must be almost the 'main' Doctor you can't get any sort of figure of yet......
+xenbear If you want to know some trivia about Jayston, he also played James Bond in 1971 in a radio play of "You Only Live Twice" so he's literally the only actor to play both "The Doctor" on Doctor Who and James Bond. No one else can make that claim.
Best Doctor Who special effect ever...
...and it’s from 1986.
It truly is the mark of a great actor that even despite his utterly ridiculous loud costume Colin baker doesn't let it overshadow his performance
"It's cold outside, there's no kind of atmosphere..."
I'm all alone, more or less
Let me fly, far away from here
Fun, fun, fun
An Ungallifreyan Time Lord In the sun, sun, sun
I want to lie, shipwrecked and comatose
They did that on THAT budget?!
Yep, it cost 5000 pounds, Colin Baker even said that the model was paid more than he was.
And flash-forward to Time and the Rani, where the CGI could be made in Garry's Mod if it were released in the mid-90s and the TARDIS looks nothing like it's live-action counterpart.
Good work BBC.
+KRäFT WêRK
Garry's Mod?
Dude that shit was straight up SEGA CD.
The Ravaloxian Whovian Colin got paid less then 5000 p?
@@ScoobyandShaggy5554 Inflation.
The opening shot and the music, ON MY GOD THE FUDGING OPENING MUSIC!
I love how he pauses to knock before stopping and pushing the doors wide open xD
Nobody ever mentions how epic that music is at the start as well - truly breathtaking in its intensity, and really complimented the moment from a narrative sense.
Even 34 years later, the shift from a new and rather lightweight version of the theme music to a sombre and almost funereal introductory scene is striking. The model shot is still extremely impressive. If only what followed could have maintained that high standard. The "Trial" series has its moments, sadly not enough of them to turn things around. I still wince at the comment from a work colleague at the time - "Whatever do you watch that old rubbish for?" Blunt and to the point 😕
Damn that opening must've made many fans get goosebumps
You're not wrong. Still does it for me.
The smoking gun is in Episode 1! The Valeyard plans to "contend that the High Council showed too great a leniency" in sentencing the Doctor at his last trial "for offences of this nature". Considering that sentence was to take one of his lives, a harsher sentence can only be to take *all* of his lives...
Curiously self-defeating, though, given who the Valeyard really was.
@@spiralx6249 Literally self defeating, although if handled right it makes some sense, more versions along his own lines as oppose to of the Doctor's nature
This shot is better than most of the modern special effects.
+Kai Creech Pretty Much, All of classic Doctor Who's Effects are better than modern ones, and Doctor Who is probably one of the few shows that does not use CGI for aliens and other gadgets, the only time it uses it is when the Daleks hover.
Thats.. Really not true at all.
+Tropican555 and slitheen running
They've overcomplicated it to be fair in the new era. Also 'Twice and better' ... really? lol
+Chilly Soda actually 3,4 and 5's regenerations were nicely done. Sad and emotional, but not trying to be spectacular.
That beautiful opening effect awed me as a child. It still looks amazing.
Michael Jayston did a smashing job here as the sinister Valeyard. "It is my unpleasant duty..." he says, relishing every moment!!
I wish we could have seen more of these kind of effects and music in the show. I love the tone of it.
To this day this remains one of my favorite Doctor Who stories. Colin Baker has always been my favorite (with Jon Pertwee as my second). With these recent Blu-Ray season box set releases I can't wait for this season to be released. It's going to be one of my most treasured seasons especially since it's my second favorite Doctor Who story.
Yep, bought it. Amazing to see again...
this model shot alone makes me want to re-watch this series over again
Ah, yes. Courtroom drama, every childs favourite theme!
However, the rest of the episode looked like it was filmed in someone's basement.
time lords use ball point pens? who'd a' knew...
probably the budget of around £10 in the '80s
Camerons Gaming
And they spent most of it on that intro!
yeah
Third doctor inadvertently left a ball point in Paris, where it was found my M Biro thus earth got the ball point.
its a stylus
I remember seeing this introduction when it first came out, and thought, "wow, Doctor Who has never been like this before!"
JNT's most ambitious and forward thinking season, long before season story arcs became the norm in TV drama.
the subtle characterization of the 6th doctor considering knocking and then bursting in is incredible
"I am lord President of Gallifrey! You can't put me on trial!"
I think our Doctor here's been hanging around Nixon too much. ;)
Sadly, recent events have borne out this interpretation of the law...
Really hope to see this in HD in the new season 23 Blu-ray set.
I'm surprised how good the effects were with the station-thing in the beggining.
Beginning of this clip reminded me of Red Dwarf
"NOT GULITY!" - Colin Baker 1986.
Love the cinematography and model-work at the start, there. Top-notch stuff!
fantastic model work! love the music too. i remember the first time i saw that opening, blew me away. they really went all out and probably spent a good bit of budget on it to try and reinvigorate the show after the first brief cancellation. 'the Trial of a Time Lord' is the kind of clever idea that Moffat would come up with.
Incredible opening. And one of the best Dr. Who serials as well. Especially, the Vervoids story.
I love how the models looks better than the actual set
Great opening. Worth every penny
As incredible as this opening sequence is, I can't help but wonder why the Time Lords would label their space station docking bays with Earth numbers.
Translation circuits in the TARDIS.
Hate me, but Colin Baker is my favourite Doctor from the classics and also one of my favourite actors of all time. In my opinion he did a fantastic Job as the Doctor!
The 6th Doctor was the most distinguishably arrogant and erudite - in my opinion - of all the incarnations and is my 2nd favorite overall behind Tom Baker. Colin was given the best lines and is criminally underrated. *This* Whovian does not hate you.
@@marcus9434 yeah, I really love Sixth overthetopness from the first moments.
I saw this at the Doctor Who Convention in March 1987. They showed the first hour of The Mysterious Planet, the second hour of Terror of the Vervoids and the Ultimate Foe on a movie screen Seeing the opening scene was just incredible.
I remember this being one of the first episode I saw as a child, (when they were doing the re-runs around the 90s)
Love the memories
Colin's hair in this season is top tier
That opening shot right there...THAT'S how you do special effects!
In my opinion, the scene with the TARDIS being pulled into the space station-y place the best piece of special FX in classic Doctor Who.
I always loved this whole introduction. It's very moody, nicely scored and shot... Too bad the rest of the season doesn't live up to this.
I loved watching this scene again. It really cheered me up after the disappointment today with the lost episodes rumor.
Looks like the TARDIS is going inside Red Dwarf
That opening sequence would have cost a fortune back in the day.
Couldn't he bring up that he saved Gallifrey in "The Three Doctors" he more than made up for anything he did wrong. I know this is all an elaborate ploy for the Valeyard to get his remaining regenerations, but it would have been a nice reference.
+bigwingedkuriboh That was years ago, he's done a lot more meddling since then.
Arc of infinity, stopped the master from blackmailing the universe with it’s survival in order to control it, stopped the master from trying to control the being chronos, stopped the Rani and the Master from turning the earth into a army/number of test subjects
@@jordanreed3675 I always got the impression that the Time Lords simply didn’t care. They could probably hop universes if they wanted to escape danger (that’d be an interesting storyline to explore)
@@lewiskazinsky7334 No they can't, that involves crossing the void and there is no guarantee that they would in doing that.
The entire classic series in a nutshell =D
Sadly the bulk of the budget was blown by the impressive model shot. An awesome opening shot only to have the TARDIS land in a BBC corridor...
This an amazing piece of model work
That music. Omg it is so good.
I love the Roman numerals on the Gallifreyan space station.
poor colin baker...always my favorite of the old series...
bravery like yours in something we all need.
I bet it took most of the budget to do it, but the first time I saw it I thought, AWESOME.
When I watch this scene, in my mind, the Doctor's just had a load of amazing adventures with Big Finish and in his novels, and now he must face the end. It's funny how the spin-offs truly make you see the shows differently. Similarly, yet not completely similarly, when I rewatch the episode _Dalek_, for me, it's now a sequel to _Day of the Doctor_. :D
Actually, a majority of the Big Finish stories take place after Trial. He drops Mel off to meet her again later, then starts travelling with Evelyn. Even a fair number of the Peri stories take place after this as he meets her again later too.
Anything with the Glynn theme is post-Trial. Anything that uses Howell for 6 is probably between Season 22 and Trial.
I'm aware of that. There are two stories dedicated to making the audience aware of this: Business Unusual and The Wrong Doctors. I've read/heard both. ;)
In this comment, I was simply saying he'd had a load of cool adventures before arriving here, which he did. Lots of companions can only fit in before this adventure- all Peri adventures, all Frobisher adventures, alternate Jamie ones...
I met him at Comic Con! I had an ARM WRESTLE with him! And I won! Best day of me life!
My favourite visual effect in all of media
It`s amazing how well it holds up.
This would make a great reboot as a movie
2:32 "Too Greater Leniency"? The 6th Doctor replies "Dude I was forced to regenerate, how in the name of Rassilon is that too greater leniency?!?!"
Death without regeneration?
What they were prepared to do to him in Arc of infinity, total molecular disintegration. You won't be regenerating w/o even DNA and being reduced to your merest elemental particles. Or worse immortality in an inescapable prison. Say Shada for instance .
@@Futures_End Compete erasure fr the timeline.
This season was ahead of it’s time
"Since you willfully neglected the responsibility of your great office, you were deposed."
Well, it would be nice if somebody told me these things.
Can't wait to watch this
The beginning reminded me so much of Red Dwarf.
+NeoDiscoBall They HAVE got the aspect ratio right. It was shot in 1.33.
THE BRICKYARD! THE GRAVEYARD! THE STACKYARD! THE BACKYARD!
The court notes that the Doctor's coat looks like an unfortunate accident at a textile plant.
And with Domin Glynn's music. No wonder he eventually got such a big composition career...
These are in my opinion, the best stories of Doctor Who:
Caves of Androzani
An Unearthly Child
The Three Doctors (and every multi Doctor stories following)
Rose
The End of The Earth
The Stolen Earth
Night of The Doctor
The Zygon Inversion
Rings of Akhaten
The Parting of The Ways
Blink
The Daleks
Dalek
relevance?
I am pretty certain that in the three doctors at least they were referred to as "forms" or "incarnations". However I like your theory. And if the production team are willing to retcon such a huge piece of mythology as the whole 12 regenearations/13 bodies limit then I cant see what would stop them ignoring a few lines of dialogue.
A technique called Motion Control Photography. There were computers used in the process, but they were used to control camera movement. This scene was made using several model shots in which the computer-controlled camera matched movements between every shot, having the route adjusted a bit for every element shot to create the illusion of different sizes and of some objects moving independently of the camera (for example the TARDIS seeming to rotate was actually the camera orbiting it).
Why would the Time Lords do court in a space station or even far away from Gallifrey! So far long away?
Thought the Red Dwarf theme was about to play for a second there
Sadly I heard this model was destroyed in a fire while on display at a Doctor Who exhibit.
"Unpleasant task", Valeyard? Don't make me laugh. :P
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I think this was where the soundtrack in the classic series started to become really memorable -- that wailing synth at the beginning really sticks in your head. I kind of wish the revival series had music more like that... feels like they took something that was really unique and haunting about the classic series and threw it away in favour of something that's somehow become expected -- everyone's going for a strings and horns base when it comes to cinematic music now and there's so many other ways to do it.
Say what you will about Classic Who but throughout its run it was really good at looking at what was "expected" and then doing something completely new.
BTW how is this extended? It looks exactly like the version I have.
Longer
I don't see any scenes or shots in there I haven't seen on my version :-/
Maybe my version is extended too :D
Splotch the Cat-Thing Dominic Glynn is still making music, by the way...
MinecraftPro15 pfft
+MinecraftPro15 That is an opinion, not a fact.
Comments in a nutshell: ‘OMG that model shot!’
‘Great model shot. Cardboard cutout.’
I always thought it was funny how the doctor once chastised the meddling monk, but in the end he became the same.
its brilliant they used inquisiter darcal from here in the galafrey series by BIG FINISH
I was always under the impression the first law of time was that it was forbidden for the Doctor (or any time law) to cross his own time stream and meet his other incarnations (I.E the Three Doctors)
My god the amazing technicolor dream coat
Love the model! The background stars were a bit dizzying, though.
Colin’s betrayal as a runaway criminal as the Doctor is fitting to me! Because everyone has a bit of a demon in them! Even the Doctor himself!
2:07, jugde kavanagh (i cant spell right now) in court, cirica 2018 colorized
i really like that idea, so far its the only one that makes sense.
This should have been the Title Sequence with the Glyn theme. Much better than recycling that tired old tunnel.
That opening scene looks very Red Dwarf to me. As others have said, it holds up very well.
We know that "Valeyard" is supposed to be an archaism for "Doctor of Law", but I've never been able to confirm that...looking it up online just returns Doctor Who itself! Can we now safely conclude that it's just something the writers made up?
Except that in both the Three Doctors and The Five Doctors it is specifically stated that the Hartnell Doctor is the earliest incarnation.
Watch this first shot feels like watching a feature film