UBUNTU 24.04 LTS The End Of Windows !
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2024
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The latest LTS version of Ubuntu, for desktop PCs and laptops. LTS stands for long-term support - which means five years of free security and maintenance updates, extended to 10 years with Ubuntu Pro. This could be the start of the end for Windows as the dominant desktop operating system we will see with interest.
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We have 600 machines at my work that are on Windows 10. None of those machines meet the hardware requirements for Windows 11. Most of them are close to or over 15 years old. Our business case to replace them came to over $600,000 just for the hardware. Never mind training or application compatibility testing. I asked for funds to set up a test machine with Ubuntu to determine its suitability as a replacement for the installed Windows Operating system. We do have several custom applications (We are a social agency managing about 50 housing and shelter locations throughout a large city and serve over 500 clients a year.) The hardware is fairly generic HP desktop units and uniform across the enterprise. A few managers have Lenovo 490 and T61 laptops. We have two choices for the applications run them on a VM or use an emulator product on the desktop machine. We do have a database running on an SCO Unix system from the 90's.
Would WINE work for those applications? If that works, maybe with a couple tweaks, your company is blessed, you can easily transition. Keep me updated on whatever your company decides in the end!
@@axeldewater9491 Its being evaluated.
@@axeldewater9491 I will likely be retired before a final solution is found. I retire within the next few years. I'm kind of riding the wave to the beach.
Wait. Windows is not going anywhere. Microsoft doesn't care about home users. They care about selling licenses of Windows. This means OEMs buying licenses and companies buying bulk licenses. They don't care about your single PC purchase every 3-4 years. Windows is what fuels business and that's what MS cares about. That said, there's more awareness of Linux systems and what it can do for older hardware that MS wants you to throw into ewaste.
When an ENTIRE euro country's govt bin's windows, ESPECIALLY when it's Germany, there is likely a reason... :)
The last 4 companies i visited dropped thier Microsoft licebses license price increased bloated in a enterprise lts version. Windows server was ever very good these they are super unreliable.
windows fuels 90% organisations ldap active directory to manage all computers.
windows ain't going anywhere.
windows gives best performance with virtual machines while last time i tried VM in ubuntu it hanged 😂
@@nikhilt3755 I don't know if you're confusing my comments with that of EB. Funny, that you feel windows is sooo critical to the corporate world...Germany is dumping it wholesale.just 'maybe' they know something you don't.. not to impune your tech knowledge or skill, but tell you a 'secret'. I've known Bill Gates since his college days, was standing literally NEXT to him, when he 'created' "Windows" ( it was a fraud, didn't exist, he drove a small company who actually was demoing it to the industry, into insolvency, then acquired them-a recurring practice btw. Bill is a hell of a poker player, but he plays EVERY hand to win, no matter what it takes. Doesn't matter to me, ride the bus you choose.
I've been hearing for thirty plus year how linux is going to replace windows.
Anybody who says that must be in a position to give up all the programs they used to use, and go though a learning curve to get used to things like Open Office and Thunderbird Email. In truth, there bloody well is a learning curve, and your old Windows-based programs likely wont work in Linux. Being retired we could do that, but we're not typical desktop users anymore.
You’ve defeated your own argument really by knocking the software installer bundled with Ubuntu and then mentioning the dreaded ‘terminal’ to install something more suitable. Windows users just want things to work. No messing about. The Linux community doesn’t seem to realise this and that is why Windows is going nowhere.
Clickbait title. I run both, the answer is "no".
Ubuntu is Microsoft of the Linux World, but I doubt that it will ever replace Windows nor that Windows will break its market with the 24H2. Windows, the worst it is, the more users it gets! I think the issue is the people, they are really dumb.
They are not dumb they just don't care (at least most people some are just dumb)
Not dumb. Just lazy.
@@ArchangelGavriel i don't think so because to survive you need money and making money takes effort for most people, they are so busy playing this life simulator they just live on auto pilot with their own problems and their most own problems are crated by the cooperate world and you can do nothing because at is the best system rn for humans
@@BunnyKhatri-pd8zm That is your own perception. Others may have a different perspective. I will stick with the Lazy since it covers most instances without making any conspiratorial accusations that cannot always be verified. Laziness can be verified.
bro i'm a power user Windows 10 updated to 11 never had a problem wtf are you talking about this nonsense
The snap and Flatpack Firefox does not work with all the add-ons properly. I can't use smartcard reader, to access public service by government given person identification card. That's real pity they don't consider importance of compatibility.
You opened the video with one thing that would deter the majority of potential users coming from Windows and that's the terminal. Having to remember endless command lines wouldn't fill many with confidence. If there was a distro that required zero use of the terminal then maybe we'd be talking.
linux mint needs minimal terminal use
@@Yoru05 They may well have updated it then. That was the distro I tried switching to before and it certainly did then. I remember getting completely locked out because I typed in my password wrong while trying to change a setting. I couldn't get back in, so my only option was to reinstall Windows.
@@Yoru05Linux mint sucks, looks ugly and doesn't always work especially on new stuff. It's good for freeloaders though just like clem being a canonical freeloader 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great video. Could you have a look at Bazzite OS they just updated to version 3.0.0
I’ve been using Linux Mint for the past 5 months now as my machine is not supported by Windows 11. I won’t wait until windows 10 no longer receive security updates. Had to tweak a few things but it’s working like a charm on my 10yo FX-6300 with integrated GPU. I can work, study and watch UA-cam smoothly.
Ubuntu is also great.
Windows 11 just keeps getting worse. Now I hear they are setting it up where you cannot use it unless you make a Microsoft account. LOL.
You can make a burner account
ahhh.... I wish I can get high end machine to try out this Ubuntu 24 ... thanks for sharing uncle.
Thanks Steve!! I don't like snap. I do like the issues you raised!!!
snaps are fine. They work well enough now. You won't notice 2% speed slow down.
Waiting for Bobuntu 24.04.😂😂
Frostwire is still a thing just use VPN so your ISP doesn't know what you're doing which they shouldn't be allowed to anyway because it's technically illegal.
I am fine with Ubuntu being good and being a Linux user myself (i don't use Ubuntu tho) but saying "End of Windows" is the worst joke I heard this year until now. The day Windows ends will not come by the hand of Linux, instead of Apple maybe or any other thing.
Ubuntu, right or wrong, my distro. I love Unity, snaps and Ubuntu Pro, all hated by the fake-software-experts. Why Canonical is good and Ubuntu great?
An example: I run an encrypted Virtualbox VM of Ubuntu 16.04 ESM (Unity & Ubuntu Pro) exclusively for my banking. It also runs the latest stable snaps of Firefox and LibreOffice. A secure solution for banking with Unity; Snaps; Extended Security Maintenance (Part of Ubuntu Pro) and Virtualbox!
Another example: I run a VM of Xubuntu 24.04 LTS with MS-Edge for WhatsApp; FB-Messenger and Skype. MS-Edge is auto updated through the PPA, due to the cooperation between Microsoft and Canonical :) :) I use MS-Edge, because it is efficient with memory usage, inactive tabs are put to sleep :)
I believe that during the BETA, Canonical fixed the XZ backdoor problem by replacing the file with an older version that isn't compromised.
Modern Windows is absolute GARBAGE and how people can call it superior to older Windows is beyond me making Windows simple was Microsofts TRUE agenda someone's doing something at Microsoft they're not SUPPOSED to be doing and we need to find out who and charge them for trespassing into people's computer.
@@TechnoMinded-qp5in this is unrelated to the original comment
Will never happen unfortunately.
Linux is not the problem,win apps are the problem.
Zorin has snaps and flatpacksl, so a very wide range of software to add to the linux software selection. Also very newbie friendly. Been dual booting it with Win 10 and can see myself using it solely after 2025 as my hardware won't run Win 11. Thanks, MS, for making the decision for me!
I'm running Garuda Cinnamon it makes your computer faster and more powerful by simplifying your computer a lot of people are using the Garuda distro and they have expert Operating Systems as well there doesn't appear to be an End of Life since it's open source compared to Windows.
Also it looks like deepin so I will set the wallpaper to tiananmen square
I've been testing Ubuntu 24.04 with my late 2015 5K iMac and have had very few problems with it. Most of the problems I had were just me not remembering how to do things om Linux and having to re-familiarize myself. I think this will be a great OS to take the place of macOS Monterey when it ends support this coming fall, and this iMac will no longer be supported by Apple. I'm using the Cinnamon Ubuntu 24.04 flavor and also Kubuntu as I also like KDE. Currently I have been running each install from an external hard drive until I decide it's time to install as the main OS.
Also wanted to note that 24.04 seems to have fixed the random audio issues I was having when trying previous releases such as 22.04 and below.
Also I feel that any experienced user will find Linux and macOS quite similar in terms of the underlying Unix system, and most of the challenges may just be in the desktop experience and finding alternative software (depending on needs.)
I've been running Windows for 32 years but have only occasionally dabbled with Linux on spare machines, most recently Mint.
I have never heard of snaps; what are they? My usual route for getting software is to search in a browser, download and install. I can't work from home on a Linux machine because I need MS Office installed locally. I still don't have any Windows 11 compatible machines and don't know what to do in 18 months time.
Okay so, Windows uses ".exe"-packages as their programs, right? Linux has multiple formats to package a program, there is no(t yet a) standard package format on Linux. This is because Linux is not created by a company but by many different people with many different views on what is the right way to package a program. At the moment there are 4 major types of packages: native packages, flatpaks, snaps and appimages.
Every distribution of Linux (there are several versions and flavors of linux which are called distributions) has native packages, that only work for that distribution of Linux. Its pro is that it has been packaged such that it works completely correct in that specific distribution. Its con is that this means that this native packages does not work on another distribution: every distribution needs to maintain their own package of this certain program.
Flatpaks are an attempt to create a universal package format that makes sure that it works on *any* distribution, not only one distribution. Most distributions support flatpaks out of the box and otherwise you can easily install "Flathub" and then use flatpaks. Pros are that it is easy to maintain and publish to Linux, and that everything about it is open source. Con is that in order to be this flexible it is inside a sandbox and could therefore be a little slower or lack certain features because they require to escape this sandbox.
Snaps are also an attempt to create an universal package format, but instead of made by the community, it has been created by Ubuntu's company, Canonical. The backend is not completely open source and Canonical is really forcing its users to use it. Linux users don't like to be forced onto something, that is why the maker of the video was complaining. Furthermore, snaps qualitatively behave worse than Flatpaks, while trying to achieve the same goal. So it is basically Canonical trying to become a standard instead of Flathub, so that they get more control over the Linux ecosystem as a whole, because the decisions Canonical makes on this topic are not in the benefit of the user at this moment (because flatpaks generally behave a lot better). Canonical even tries to get users to use snaps instead of the native Ubuntu packages, the ones I first talked about, even though the native packages work much better because they are made specifically for Ubuntu.
Lastly there are AppImages. Those are the equivalent to Portable programs on Windows, and behave a bit like MacOS apps: you download a file, you make it runnable, you click on it, and it runs. This is also an attempt to create a universal package, but it has not taken off (yet), mostly because many users think it is much easier to either download a program from the software manage or to use the terminal, because these are quicker than using the browser and finding the file and then downloading it. Because of this, not many programs are packaged as AppImages and not many people therefore use them.
I hope this comment helps with understanding Linux packages, and hopefully you'll be able to successfully transition from Windows to Linux without too many problems, and of course that you will like and enjoy it and stay! You'll discover that it is not really difficult, but more that it is new and different, and you'll need some time to adjust. If you ever encounter any problems, you can ask me here!
@@axeldewater9491 Thank you.
You have confirmed that it is more complicated that I realised.
Gonna be a steep learning curve!
@@ThePhilGrimm I understand that. But just keep in mind that it is not necessarily more difficult (sometimes it is, but usually not), it usually is just very different. When you only know English, Spanish feels very difficult and vice versa, but both languages are almost equally difficult compared to each other. It just takes some time to learn the other language. Same goes with operating systems.
I would say that Linux Mint is the one that Windows users should turn to not Ubuntu. Because Linux Mint has 3 desktops that will be the most familiar to Windows users. The Mate, Cinnamon and Xfce which come with Mint all have the Windows style start menu and layout. They don't have Snaps like Ubuntu does. And Mint is also very stable and has a lot of tools to help you out. You can also install other desktops on Linux Mint as I do. I have the KDE desktop and you can also install the Ubuntu Gnome Desktop on Mint. The advantage of this is you get all of the Ubuntu features but without the Snap. Because Mint does not use Snaps. That's why I always use Mint instead of Ubuntu but I am also getting to like Debian. Debian is also another option if you don't want Snaps or Flatpak.
But I recommend fedora.
Ubuntu and mint are fine but I prefer faster updates and flatpaks if they didn't take up so much space, they are pretty good.
@@bhargavjitbhuyan9394 Until you see it force Wayland and make Nvidia cards shit their pants
@@bhargavjitbhuyan9394 i don't recommend fedora because it requires you to enable rpm fusion for preparatory drivers which can be confusing for new users and also wayland for new users is quite confusing
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I recommend Ubuntu to new users got many users on it and they love it. Linux mint is just overrated garbage. We don't need another Windows os we need others. Making mint look like windows was the worst idea those people ever had. It has no identity. Plus many people know Ubuntu already. Mint is only loved by Linux people who already know Linux not people who don't know Linux.
Hi mate I have restall Windows 10 this laptop because I have hard enough of Windows 11 which Linux system replace it with it it's staying on here .
With 2025 aproaching and the mandatory upgrade to win11 looming on the horizon, I'm definitely interested in learning Linux. But I'm thinking about trying Mint, since many say it's more beginner friendly. Would you recomend Ubuntu over Mint?
Go, go, go! Both are great distros to start playing with, but I’d say what Linux Mint offers might feel more “natural” for someone coming from many years of using Windows. You’re about to start a journey that will blow your wig, sir! 😄 There are a few things I believe you should bear in mind from now on when it comes to GNU/Linux: 1. Every project (distribution / flavor) has its own vision. For instance, Mint is a community-driven project spearheaded by veterans, with their users needs at center. Everything they do is to make their users experience as frictionless as possible, while gradually innovating as new needs and requests arise; 2. On the other hand, distributions like Ubuntu (as well as other corporate-backed ones like Fedora or openSUSE) usually define their roadmap based on their commercial needs, or the companies that make use of their tech needs, so expect new developments to be pushed more aggressively hence things possibly breaking more often. Linux Mint and similar distributions are released when they are cooked enough, the other ones may come a little early out of the oven from time to time since they are often bound to hard timelines; 3) Then you have a whole other variety of desktop environments or window managers that you can dress up with the underlying system: Mint’s desktop environment Cinnamon is fully managed by the Mint team, and you can see their live pouring all over the place. Then you have GNOME - the one that uses Ubuntu and Fedora, for example -, which kind of resembles the UI you would expect from a tablet or a similar touch device. Then there is KDE Plasma 6 💙 the one I prefer over all of them, with an initial look and feel similar to the traditional Windows UI, but extensible and customizable beyond your imagination, trust me. There are many more, each one with their own goals, pros ando cons, so at the end of the day it is up to the user to pick the one that “feels right”. We are so lucky here, we live in abundance :) My recommendations is to go and try all the ones that pick your curiosity and see how you feel using them. 4) Because GNU/Linux is not a whole operating system like Windows or macOS or FreeBSD, but different components assembled together to create an operating system, you’ll hear a lot of the different “package managers”, which were the traditional way to install software there. Nowadays there are some new nice alternatives like Flatpak (https;//flathub.org) or Snap (developed and managed by Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu), that makes as easy as with the other platforms to install new software, implementing modern sandboxing techniques along the way to enhance security and prevent malicious applications from harming your system; 5) Learn how to use the terminal! While nowadays you can use most of these GNU/Linux systems geared towards the general public without ever interacting with a terminal, there is where the power lies: unlike with other OS with the exception of FreeBSD, here the graphical interface is an extension - and more often than not a tiny subset - of what you can do with your system from the termina. On top of that, with GNU/Linux your system is YOUR system. You have full control over it. _”With great powers comes great responsibilities”_ - it’s really easy to break it beyond a repairable state if you put your finger where you shouldn’t, trust me 😂; 6. I jumped boat in 2006 or 2007 (I started with Ubuntu back then, which had a very different UI), and after having used lot of diestros like Arch Linux, Gentoo, Slackware, Fedora, and even Linux From Scratch, I continue learning new stuff every day - and I breath Linux and FOSS, being them my daily drivers since then (with a little exception of a couple of years when I used macOS 🙂↔️), and also using them as my go-to option at work (Infrastructure / DevOps / SRE engineer here, think about Kubernetes, Podman, AWS, GCP, Terraform, GitHub Actions, etc); 7. Since you still have time my recommendation would be to start playing with the distros you are considering on a VM (I recommend you VMware Player since you’re on Windows, much better than VirtualBox), so you start getting acquainted with this new and (very) different way of doing things and slowly start buldijg up confidence. Most importantly, you start breaking your systems and learning how to avoid repeating doing that in the future, and better yet, how to fix it. Think about raising the hood of your car and understanding exactly what every part of the engine does - then think back about Windows and macOS, if you can do the same. Spoiler alert: you can’t. Those systems are black boxes that restricts your freedom, your possibilities to use them to your best potential, and the possibility of learning and leveling up. And I even haven’t yet said nothing about *privacy*, or about the disrespect Microsoft treats its users with by charging them for the operating system (no issues with that), only to next shove publicity right into their desktops with new updates! They have no shame, really. Which brings me to the last of the points I wanted to make you know about: 8. There are two main philosophical movements or school of thought here: Free Software (fsf.org, eff.org), and Open Source Software. The first one has more of a dogmatic position, where all the hardware and software should be open and free to access to everyone. It was founded by a guy that was a golden boy at MIT in the 70s and the 80s, frustrated of being restricted to learn how some of the stuff they used at their lab worked because of licensing burdens; the OSS movement has a more down-to-Earth approach if you like, where they are not so focused on “preserving people’s freedoms”, but in achieving technical excellence, to which one of the best things you can do is open your source code so peers can take a look at it and _yay or nay_, share their thoughts, and between everyone come to the best possible solution. Its not a surprise companies back more OSS projects than Free-as-in-Freedom projects, even though the FSF is responsible for the other half of what constitutes a GNU/Linux operating system, the GNU part: gnu.org.
Again, congratulations from deciding to move out of your comfort zone and learn something new - you won’t be disappointed! And if you feel a bit more adventurous, go check some of the amazing new developments popping out of the Fedora community like bazzite.gg/ or projectbluefin.io/. Also, you might want to give a look nixos.org/ which I fell completely in love with and can’t have enough of it! 🎉🐧 😄🤓 Edit: typing on an iPad sucks so baaadly! Can’t wait to have good tablets running full Linux distributions, not just Android :D
Personally, I would recommend Mint / Cinnamon as the first distribution for you to try. That was where we ended up, having used Microsoft operating systems since MS-DOS. But a separate SSD for the Linux installation, with the Windows disk saved aside, would be a wise thing for you to do. That way you can still go back if the Linux learning curve is too steep. And make no mistake, there is a learning curve.
I started with Ubuntu, but fell in love with Mint and quickly switched over. It's good until 2027.
I checked and the version of XZ utilities is DEFINITELY NOT the infected one.
Also just for everyone - if you buy a printer for Linux, buy a HP or Brother because they support Linux. Don't buy anything else.
My modern Canon printer worked out the box with Linux Mint :)
@@Nevakonaza. HP has official packages. You can download them from HP.
@@seangreenhalgh7921 they say it worked out of the box so there was no need to download any official packages.
Xerox Laser printers work too.
The only time when Linux defeats windows is if linux can play all the triple "A" games especially the triple "A" games that run with the anti-cheat software and as well for linux to be able to support all hardware which it can support most percentage of hardware these days and so therefor in time as linux advances then it might defeat windows till then we have to use windows.
That is a problem true indeed, but only for certain games. Some people have tried running Win 10/11 in a Virtual Machine, and also did some tweak so it doesn't show it is a VM. If Linux gaming population increases then these gaming companies that need to run anti-cheat software might finally cave in and make it for linux as well. One game I play Tanki-Online only requires anti-cheat when you play in competition event tournaments; for regular public matches it doesn't require anti-cheat software. If you use the VM it could get you banned for some games, so I wouldn't try this. They might improve this VM method in the future.
Linux will have a great future if we get a good Adobe and a good Outlook alternative. Don't tell me its Thunderbird and Gimp. They are not bad but not as good as Photoshop and Outlook. Btw i use Ubuntu 24.04 LTS and Win11 because i need Photoshop sometimes for my work.
it already has two good video editors (resolve and kdenlive). I tried to like GIMP, I really did... it just doesn't got that natural feel which Photoshop has. So I agree, once Linux gets a proper photoshop alternative, it'd be a huge game changer.
@@Onionbagel Krita 😄
Oh and Wayland is a display manager. A graphics driver is something totally different.
I think this Ubuntu will spell the end of Windows. Not so much because Ubuntu. But because once Linux Mint gets a hold of this and refines it, I think you will see as perfect a desktop OS as you can get. Ubuntu is a great foundation. But lost the plot with desktop users. Understandable. They would not be the solid foundation they are if they focused on desktop. They need to focus more on corporate needs because that makes them the money they use to make their solid base. Linux Mint takes it that extra mile and brings it home for the desktop user. They can focus more on the desktop users. Wish Ubuntu and Linux Mint would get a long better. They both bring something to the table the other does not and desperately needs. Lol. If they were to combine forces, they would be an unstoppable distro.
Canonical needs to do what red hat did and make it impossible to make a clone off it so Linux mint and friends can create their own os. Not use canonicals work. All these distros shouldn't even exist in the first place.
This looks nice to code on
Hate windows. There seems to be an update everytime i turn pc on.
Add use another operation system if it works
will it run all windows programs and games as good if not better than windows natively?
No, definitely not, it is not there yet, but Linux is getting there, albeit slowly.
Modern games, with modern graphical features, are still a problem.
Gday Steve, thanks for video. While I do think the Ubuntu is nice in looks I think Canonical is the Microsoft of the Linux world. They're in it for the cash the desktop OS they couldn't really give a toss about. It's the money they're making from the server side that counts. All this snap business and yes you can remove them but after all these years they still have problems.
For a new user I think Mint is the go. Us long time nix users have used them all back in the day as you would of in your career as I did in mine.
I dont think you can go past Debian Testing myself. Used it for years now and love it.
Looks interesting. I put dual and even triple boots on my computers because I like to have options. Might give this one a try down the road.
i'd say for a beginner linux mint 100 percent. im on manjaro and its great for gaming but need to add a terminal command to get aur installing programs right and that may be too much for some. i hear cachy os ,endevour os, pop os, garuda, and nobara are all great for gaming as well.
If you have newer hardware then you can get Linux Mint EDGE. This new Ubuntu has the Linux kernel 6.8; to use newer AMD RADEON 7000 graphic cards you need Linux kernel 6.3 and up.
There's still a lot of people that don't know that Ubuntu/Linux exist's. At least here in the US. All's they know about is Windows and Mac. And most people don't even know that Mac is based off BSD which is Unix based. Instead of buying extremely expensive hardware just so that they can us Mac's OS they could be buying cheap or inexpensive hardware and using any Unix or Unix like OS for free.
Believe you me, as a Gamer/streamer i cant go to another OS main reason is almost ALL of my games are windows based through steam/epic. Now,when the game companies Rockstar,epic etc grow a brain and go over to nothing but linux, then ill be one of the first ppl to jump the microcrap ship. its very frustrating trying to play PC games when you have ADs in mix of the OS...iam waiting until microcrap releases the LTSC lite Version of win 11 later this yr. Plus i know nothing about linux.
Get a Steam Deck, play the games, mess with Proton, install emulators, use the Desktop mode,
You'll see how much fun Linux is
@@MrQuay03 Try playing games like PUBG or DayZ on Linux. No chance with PUBG and you'll lose most of your hair trying to get DayZ to work, and that's vanilla DayZ. Forget about trying to play modded DayZ on linux.
@@bryndaldwyre3099 in that case, I guess Windows are required. In my case, most of the games I want to play are indie, older triple A. My Steam backlog is huge like most people.
@dreaper5813 That fact that Microsoft is putting ads into it's OS which we have to purchase a licence to use is indeed shady, and I do dual boot with Linux for games that run on Linux, but I'm not ready to cut the cord completely with Windows while I'm still enjoying playing multi-player games like PUBG and DayZ.
@dreaper5813 I've been playing PUBG since the start and I enjoy it's mechanics. I don't even bother with paying for the microtransactions as they're not nessecary to the game at all. I bought it once, not paying for the price of the game for every season pass as well. As for DayZ, it only works ok with unmodded servers. You try to mod it and the game tends to bork. And when I play a game, I shouldn't have to spend 2 hours figuring out how to get it to work on linux before wanting to play. That's why I won't fully commit to Linux. Fine for all you techheads who love to tinker, but I want to load up a game and just play it.
Not even half way through and I'm going to sleep 💤💤💤💤
If rumors confirmed, Windows 11 update if requireds 8gb ram. Well... We see
Lets not hand them from one cooperate decision making and babying to another.
Looks like my specs on my computer... you have a wee bit better graphics (well much better), a wee bit faster CPU (about equal, overclocked A10-58k). I have a wee bit more resolution though (1680x1050). 8GB RAM here also.
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I tried Linux (when it was in beta 1992'ish)... just before that I tried a SUN Solaris (BSD variant) on a mainframe with a (SUN?) terminal and the terminal had 68020... (my Amiga back then had 68EC20 but was upgraded quickly to 68030) but it was just fast as hell... Anyway... the Linux was we tried was run on 386 (16 Mhz as I remember) and it was pretty cool... The Mainframe with Sun terminals (was the shit, it was so freakishly fast)... But again... It was cool to see a form of Unix running on a 386 (with 2 MB ram? or something) that had almost the same shell... did not run any graphics though...
Anyway... I do remember a "PR" stunt in my office (a small computer consultant firm) knocking on the door and gave us 10 free CD's with Ubuntu with nice sleeves and everything (2004-2005 maybe?)... Ofc I installed it, and sure it was pretty nice... many things did not work though... Graphics (only 640x480), no sound, no adaptec SCSI card, and so on and on... But the basics worked, and it started nice with a GUI... It had promise... as desktop system.
Last time I tried Ubuntu was 5 years ago with an older laptop just for fun... and after about 3 days I got pretty much everything working but it was a pain (I do like pain though)... It started with lowres display, no sound, to good display, OK sound (with a lot of fiddling great sound) but a lot of graphical jerkiness... but after a while with a lot of testing, editing and so on it was working...
I don't mind the fiddling, I actually like it most of the time. But for me I never got the filesystem structure except for the basics, so with every Linux dist I have installed I always get stumped by where all the shit is and why is that shit in that directory now and why is it not where it was in the other Linux dist and so on and on...
Think that is my biggest "gripe"... and I guess I'm an old dog and it takes longer for me to learn... device/paths is also hard for me...
I still think I'm in AmigaOS world... and you could exchange anything with everything, softlinks, hardlinks, alias and so on and on... but it just does not work in the same way with Unix/Linux...
But as I'm typing this, I just bought another computer... and this computer will get a Linux dist for sure (maybe not Ubuntu though)... I think I will make this computer a headless server of some sort... sadly the new computer is probably going to get Win11 at least at first, I need to transfer and sort everything from this computer and then maybe make a decision to go full Linux or stay with Win11...
I recommend a dual boot if you are really unsure, in your case I do certainly not recommend W11 only. Furthermore, Linux has become a lot more stable in the last couple of years. I recommend Linux Mint.
@@axeldewater9491 Yep I usually did Dualboot a lot of different OS'es before... But Windows 7 and upwards I was a bit afraid too actually... Hadt messing up a system (a specially my old one... Has been upgraded from Windows XP actually... Started with Windows XP Pro then Upgraded to Windows 7 Pro and now running Windows 10 Pro... So it's old with files everywhere :-) (even has my backups of 95,95B, 98, 98SE, W2000 also...
Linux Mint i did install on my sons computer (similar to my 2012 spec) and he has been running it for awhile and seems great!
I will do a fresh install on my new computer, then I can playaround with dualboot (I will as you said probably do Linux Mint and Win11.
I switched to Linux then I realised my mistake. Linux is hard to troubleshoot if anything goes wrong. for example: audio not working good or stops in my Ubuntu Linux laptop. I spent days and days to fix it but no success. my HP Desktop not able to run WiFi. tried several wifi sticks and been through dozens of websites but no way to make wifi working.
It's a good idea to try it first on your machine live from a USB without installing to see if everything works first. I guess I am lucky because I haven't had any incompatibility issues with the hardware other than one laptop not displaying the grub menu on a dual boot, which wasn't a huge deal for me. It still runs fine with a single OS, but that's kind of boring.
You should have went with Linux mint. Or zorin.
@@jakejones9502 I will try Linux Mint
in general if you are looking for hardware that works with Linux look for ones that are branded as Linux compatible Asus has a wifi stick that I know work since I use one my self
the problem with the audio is hard to help you solve without knowing a bit more
did it work then suddenly stopped or did it not work at all
if it worked but stopped suddenly it means that the sound card at least is detected by the OS and that is a good start
if not it means that it needs a driver
what program did you use at the time
did the sound bar in the sound settings still move
do you use internal or external speakers or a headphone at the time
it could be a loose connection or that the audio has been muted by accident or that the sound settings are wrong like having it on digital output instead of analog or headphones instead of 5.1 surround sound I have done this my self by accident
there should be a sound config tool in there
have you tried it and does the microphone work
@@styrelsefksu4463 Hi . The Audio works but voice becomes noise or sounds like an alarm after 1 minute
Ubuntu runs well with my dell latitude cant fault it took me a year to learn it it was worth it there is linux guide to run oculus rift 2 get that working with steam.
Will this bootload on 2017 Intel iMac?
yes, depending on your level of confidence dealing with growing pains, it might be wise to wait until they start fixing some of the minor bugs that always seem to plague the first LTS release.
@@joshmonroe986 okay great!
"The end of Windows"? C'mon now, you're turning a respectable channel into a joke. Try to keep it real!
it is because windows 10 won't supporting unsupported machines in 2025 unless you pay for security services and those unsupported machines still dominates more than 60% of windows users So the only way to use the unsupported machines without compromising security is to upgrade to windows 11 which is not recommended for unsupported machines or switch to linux.
@@codentags9990 And this represents "The end of Windows"?
@@codentags9990 I am curious in 2025 how many users will migrate to Linux. You have any estimates?
I currently run Ubuntu but am not keen on snaps and the size of the download. I recently installed Fedora on my mothers computer and was very impressed, it was small enough to fit on a dvd and is a very polished distribution I am considering going over to it myself.
Nax stayin on mint debian LMDE faye 6
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Yeah, excellent. Apart of it won't wake up from suspend. I freaking hate it for that.
Nautilus File browser problems in Wayland DE straight out the box
This guy is delusional. Ubuntu will not be the end of windows. Most people don't even know what Linux is so never mind heard about Ubuntu. Can't take a desktop OS seriously that doesn't have hardware acceleration support for videos in browsers. Low power CPUs cannot handle it and more mainstream CPUs will be a a high usage and power draw when this really should be offloaded to GPU. This and many other missing features are why it will never be taken seriously by anyone and only used by hobbyists.
You really have no idea what you are talking about lmao.
Linux is very lightweight compared to Windows. ESPECIALLY low power cpus could benefit from Linux.
Furthermore, there is hardware acceleration for videos in browsers? What you on about?
Have you ever even touched a Linux install or are you just repeating the nonsense you have heard on the internet?
@@axeldewater9491 I have used a Linux install and when watching youtube videos in Chrome based browser and Firefox it is using the CPU not the GPU to decode which uses much more power as CPUs are not designed for this. GPUs are much more efficient at this. If you think the opposite you have no clue about computing.
I know it isn't using the GPU for acceleration as the CPU usage jumps to 80%+ usage. On windows its at 10% usage as its offloaded to GPU. This mean on Linux I have higher power draw, nosier system as fans have to spin up and less responsive system as CPU is under heavy load.
Try watching a 4K 60FPS youtube video on a modest spec PC and watch the CPU usage max out.
@@jspink93 Hardware video decode has been around for a while IF you have an AMD gpu. if you're using Nvidia, they have had mixed support over the years but mostly a bad experience. If you're running linux and don't need Cuda cores - then go AMD. But yeah I agree with you, Windows isn't going anywhere.
The one from Synaptic no dark theme. I hate that.
Nice mountain, but boring to climb... The only way I'd install Ubuntu or Kubuntu would be to de-snap it. Luckily, there is a script available to de-snap Kubuntu.
When windows o s (12) has to run from the cloud, (they have already hacked the cloud) and you pay every month, then you will run from windows.
It seems all Linux distros are all based on the same programming, they have handy packages already installed.
An old laptop I had (windows 10) could not install new updates It had too small of a drive, not enough memory on and on. Installed Linux and run the programs that simple.
I pad was just thrown out, what a waste of material.
End of Windows? Will Ubuntu support Office 365 and Steam and run just like Windows in all support? Can I install any graphics card with updated drivers??? Is it easy to learn and maintain? Unless yes to all of the above, I will stick with Windows.
Windows doesn't tick all of the above...
@mgord9518 - You didn't read what I put. I have been using Windows since version 3.11 also. It obviously does all, or I wouldn't use it. Linux is pointless, and when it can do universally everything and be as smooth and easy to use in a GUI way 100 percent, the way a computer is meant to be used, and best to be used, there is no point to use Linux or crappy Apple for that matter, no matter what you or anyone else says, or what opinions they have. End of story. This is not even a debate.
@@ernies8828 Pretty good bait, I must say
xz version is downgraded from the infected 5.6.1 to 5.4.1 and should not be infected. Of course Canonical would not release an infected version after all the fuss that was prior to this release.
Notice how they took a shot at Linux to try to scare people into staying at MSoft for Win11 ?
Pretty obvious ploy.
The thing is, closed source corporate software probably has all kinds of back doors built in.
You just can't find them because you can't read the code.
After the XZ scare, Linux will become the most secure OS in history.
Lol this we can read for every new distro almost last 10 years, maybe will be end of Windows when anyone make quality DE for Linux, all this now looks very bad UI, also stability is not good on Ubuntu 24 too many bugs is there already reported. All I can see on reddit and some others forums too many users switch from Linux to Windows 11 last year, not sure why ?
Why do you sound so suspiciously like the English Bob?
Linux would be very great if it didn't have to depend on other companies to survive. Just found out HDMI is no longer supporting Linux. This will render the HDMI ports in all GPUs useless. Linux is basically getting screwed. I had my heart set on building a linux machine until i found out about this. Looks like Windows has the "W" here.
i run a 32" 165 hz lg ultra gear on the hdmi port and i also game on it with manjaro kde.
@@csh9853 you haven't seen any resolution drop in the graphics or speedrate decrease? I am very curious because as i said, i have my heart set on making a linux machine but if i cant use the hdmi port then the setup i want is ruined.
@@ArchangelGavriel i play at 1080p and im getting about the same fps as i was on windows 11. the only problem is i dont get amd control panel like in windows but i did download lact to control my fans speeds. now with all that said i only play games on steam. mostly single player racing games.
@@csh9853 hm. HDMI forum said they were not going to let Linux create and open source driver for their HDMI2.1. And there is no other source to say whether or not they will stil function afterwards or not. I admit i got very frustrated. I will most likely be running WoW, Minecraft, and Steam as well. Not worried too much about the 4k but i would like to run at 1080hd or 1440. I really appreciate the input you have given me. Gives me a little hope.
@@ArchangelGavriel Proprietary device drivers are closed-source device drivers that are published only in binary code. In Linux, drivers are software components that enable interaction between the operating system and specific hardware devices. Drivers depend on a lot of internal APIs of the kernel, and Linux doesn't care about backwards compatibility of these APIs. For example, drivers can be provided outside of the kernel for things that were not merged or approved, or that cannot be added to the Linux kernel itself.
I love linux, but lets be honest, linux never end the Windows. Kinda bored about Linux content always bringing the title to end the Windows or whatsoever, the facts, as developer I used Linux as WSL right now, its more than enough rather than to install Linux as Native bootable OS.
Windows is ending Windows.
Yeah, Windows will never end until people stop using it, which it unlikely since the stores only give you a few choices and Linux is never one of them. I wish they did sell machines with no OS installed. Probably get more for the money that way.
You can buy computers with Linux installed or no OS installed.
@@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 Of course that's true, but definitely not in any mainstream stores that I have seen. The ones I've seen online are usually just as, or even more, expensive as a Windows machine. The most economical way still seems to be buying a Windows computer and then installing Linux over it.
@@erikferguson71 I tried that with Lenovo but quality issues meant I sent it back for refund, but they are not refunding me. Absolute crooks - avoid Lenovo. They confirmed receipt of the laptop and said they would issue refund, but no refund after 3 weeks. Their own support forum has similar stories.
I am little lost. To me this whole video does not make any sense. WHY? simple you stated that a new user coming to Ubuntu does not know what a snap package is and when they use the Ubuntu store w.e they will install snap. How does that break or make people come to Linux? Windows has a .exe file that means you dont have to use the repository just download what you like. Linux is build a way that you cannot just download a file and run it. It has to be from the store or build the file and so on. You have to find snap or what ever package manager that distro works on. Its like two people from different countries using different languages "no understand, no capish" If you using Windows 7 or vista or windows 10 same file format install done. People that come to Linux have to learn new skill and that makes people just go away from that. It is easier to explain to someone click on download and next, next and so on done then to explain click on command line type in sudo apt install or go find a appimage for gimp. They will look at you and say" what in the world is that" or what is gimp.... I used Linux as a server, desktop and i even did the archiso scripted also did the Ubuntu as a respin. You have dozens of distros that are not in one "government" in a sense and people dont care what it is they want to open up a firm and make money of the software. If people make money and gimp is a good program then everything is good. People today have no idea what operating system they are running all they know is that the software that was put on it works with their employment. Most nurses that I worked with and I work in a hospital have no clue if it is windows 11 or 10. The program that they were trained on works and they perform their duties.
Linux has appimage files that work same as .exe.
@@guidoopossum457 That is my point sir. No it's a skill to learn. You have to look for these files not in the normal repo on Ubuntu store. The Windows system is all on .exe. It says download for Windows.
@@Muriz26 I don't see any problems. Using snapstore or some flatpak store same as use google play (people don't struggle use phone).
Institutions will choose to change over to Linux and retrain their IT because that will be cheaper for them in the long run.
If you are all open source, you won't have proprietary software issues.
You can run Linux on really old hardware... makes it great for young people without a lot of money.
You can try Ubuntu while it runs off a USB stick drive. Don't be afraid, Linux is the way.
Unless you are Microsoft. Then, be very afraid.
Ubuntu is very glitchy from my experience. Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon works much better than Ubuntu Cinnamon. When I ran Ubuntu Budgie 24.04 from an external USB SSD it would not support my keyboard and touchpad on my Dell Precision M2800.
Ubuntu went astray with snap, its quite some (easy) steps to get rid of it. BUT ubuntu is an awesome basis for better distros like Zorin, Mint, Pop OS. I cant see Linux succeeding Windows in the near future. Almost all people i know are not willing or able to install and use Linux. They use a computer like i use my car, i dont dare to modify it. Dont tell me its easy, i use Linux since 1992....
мне больше нравится kubuntu
I am using this distro and couldnt disagree more with your title..
I'm frustrated by the clickbait surrounding the new ubuntu update. It's clear it has a long way to go before it truly competes. With technology evolving so rapidly, compatibility issues will likely persist until they catch up, by which point users may have already moved on to newer advancements.
My own experience trying to update the cursor only resulted in a system crash and forced logout. This kind of instability makes it difficult to recommend ubuntu for general use.
After using Linux distributions, I've gained a new appreciation for Windows, Linux is good in specific contexts, such as server environments or for educational purposes. However, for most everyday tasks, I believe windows offer a more reliable and user-friendly experience.
I don't know specifially about Ubuntu but working as IT on a Company I learned to hate each day more Windows.
Using Mint for working or anything with normies has been the best experience in my life, almost no issues, super customizable, solid rock and appealing to the standard user.
Windows USED to be friendly and good looking, now it is a mess, adds coming even from the taskbar, Copilot wanting to make you a baby basically on how much it harass you nonstop and jump from any angle. Not to mention the search bar that will search for anything on the web and take half your time when trying to simply launch an App you know you have installe and doesn't even show up there.
Don't make me start with the Printers tho... or other drivers, Printers that would work OTB in Linux have so many issues in Windows and sometimes they refuse to work even when the Drivers are the same on different machines, the amount of telemetry and BS services I need to turn off on each computer before giving it to a User (only to know it started to behave wrongly again after any update that screwed all my Config and forced services and bs to start again and set them automatically or even installing more ads and bloat on the system)
Oh talking about updates as well... the horrible bad installed updates destroying an OS with the Installing-Rollbacking Loop after some patch.
Man please... if you learned to appreciate Windows tell me how and why, because I have only 1 computer with Win10 set apart to play games and for any other thing I go with Linux, even my cats at this point can use a Linux Mint computer and get less issues than using Windows (Sad AF if you ask me)
BTW I don't completely hate on Microsoft tho, I have Xbox and I love it, but the latest Updates to the Dashboard made me hate the UI Team on Xbox as well on how they transformed one of the best dashboards in a console I have into a Store Ad Fest where I can't even put all my games on it because 80% of the space is by force being used by them and the attempt to sell me stuff I already bought half the time.
Seriously... In 2003 I used to fear each Linux update because I was a scrub on Linux and felt like a pro on Windows... 20 years later I can handle even a weird crash on Arch Manjaro without a sweat but start shaking in panic until a machine with Windows applies and Update and start prying it boots again without breaking something.
BTW: Yeah the title was horrible ClickBait and hated it, also commented about it because it isn't even clickbait, it is a bad bs joke.
@@Lanzetsu Linux mint is good, but you cannot convince others to use the OS that you are comfortable with, you never know what use cases others have, you are talking about some driver stuff that you could not found on windows(probably a legacy one). Also it is a fact that most softwares are compatible with windows. I also have a bunch of past stories where I can mention all the horrible things that occurred while I was using Linux but I feel kind of lazy writing here 😂. Irony is you are comfortable with linux mint, which mimics windows most of the time. I have no problem with what OS's other people are using I just hate the bandwagon that some guys start where the start talking shit about a certain OS just to satisfy their own world view. From your msg, I can say that windows did not satisfy your use case but honestly are you willing to convince others to not use it just because you had a problem. Also, you became comfortable with linux after 2 decades 😂, do you think this sounds like a good argument.
Kindly take my opinion lightly, yeah I have said windows appreciation thing because it justifies my use case and Linux in its current state is not the best fit.
In Mint it said when terminal installing synaptic, that I already have it in the latest version
Is that a difference of Mint compared to Ubuntu
It may be LMDE 6 instead of Mint though.
I am not sure
Anyway, MS is not social responsible and climate responsible, rather the opposite
To boot directly into Windows after deleting Linux, restoring MBR is a pain in Windows, whereas in a live linux session, it takes just one minute, using boot-repair app.
One of many examples, linux should be the way to go and game developers should start thinking that way also
Ubuntu and Linux mint are two different versions of Linux in fact Linux mint is based on Ubuntu witch is based of another version named Debian
that is where the .deb packages comes from
if you used a live version of linux without installing it you should not need to do anything at all to get back into windows since it was only loaded into the computers memory I find it strange that you needed to do a boot repair at all
It's still can't run Adobe products, plus wine sucks.
If Linux do not manage to fix the problem with the games windows will never end...
See that's the problem you Windows users keep thinking from the wrong direction. It is not the fault of the Linux world that all games that are built for Windows don't work in the Linux world one way or another. Now this is 2024 not 2016 or even earlier years and the number of games in the Linux world that are native Windows titles that don't work and we're not even talking using a virtual machine have consistently shrunk every single year little by little and they are quite small by today's modern quantity standards and variety standards of Gaming
Pretty much the only games that don't work in the Linux World these days are Microsoft Flight simulator, any games that come from the Microsoft Store app, games that require easy anti-cheat technology just to run save for Apex Legends which has been working for many months now if not a year
Otherwise wine, wine with the support of lutris, hero launcher, and steam pretty much run anything you can throw at it as long as you have just like in Windows the correct Hardware in which to run the game at certain resolutions and settings
Now of course not everything is plug and play as many experience Linux users like myself will tell you straight up. Some games require some tinkering but it's still worth it to finally have ownership of what is supposed to be your computer. And besides too many people put far too much attention and emphasis on easy anti-cheat required games which require online access which are basically PVP games. Now I don't know about you but the vast majority of those throughout the decades their story lines are nowhere near as engaging and it's nowhere near as entertaining as your old tried and true single player campaigns games such as The Witcher series, Metro crisis... all of which work very well on the Lennox world and in fact equally as well as Windows
The main reason game developers usually develop for the windows world first and only sometimes or often is because Windows simply is currently still the most popular computer desktop and laptop operating system on the planet. That is not the fault of Linux and you're putting the responsibility for correction on the Linux community instead of against the game developers who could more easily develop the game to be compatible with Linux. The same thing can be said about specific Hardware such a certain Wi-Fi land drivers certain Bluetooth drivers and if you audio video involved PCI Express expansion car drivers.
@@motoryzen Yes! I understand everything you say. I always wanted to switch to Linux but I had some problems that I didn't manage to overcome and i didn't even had the help to do it. So i always coming back to windows. For example i tried "wine with the support of lutris, hero launcher, and steam" as you mentioned but nothing worked. I am not a "pc nerd" (in a good way) to overcome problems such the ones i faced. I asked but nobody answered. My use is very simple. Word, gimp, and youtube mainly. I play some games from time to time and that's it.
@@motoryzen I remember when i was asking about "wine with the support of lutris, hero launcher, and steam" the most common answer i was getting was "Google is your friend".
LMAO... 90% of all Windows games run better with proton. The ones with kernel level anti-cheat does not, and SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO, work on Linux. Fuck Valorant and CoD. They are shitty ass games anyway... and no game is ever getting access to my kernel.
since W11 came out.....Linux started to take up popularity....
We got news for you Lennox has been gaining Steam on popularity for the past 8 years if not longer depending on the individual distribution and desktop environment. Linux Mint cinnamon alone has been a viable Windows replacement for at least 7 1/2 years now
Now overall you're not incorrect in that wind turd 11 has really pissed off a decent chunk of what used to be complacent Windows users towards the Linux world. Nobody can deny that who has even half a brain
Haha I have read this title so many times yet Windows is still dominating the market and will not go anywhere I use Mint on my laptop but still need Windows in another partition
Why do you 'need' windows on another partition?
there are a lot of people that prefer using Windows 7 than Linux. Even Windows XP is used in machines that is perfectly compatible with Linux. I like Ubuntu but sometimes...
@@nogginthenoggfubar2862 Probably, so s/he can play online MMOs that require anticheat. That is one problem with linux and windows gaming.
Only Linux fanboys believe Linux is better than Windows.
Embracing the Power of Linux Mint: A Former Windows User's Perspective
Hey there, Windows users! If you're still stuck in the quagmire of proprietary software and bloated operating systems, let me tell you about my journey to enlightenment. I once too was a slave to the Windows image, but no more!
Now, I proudly stand among the Linux Mint community, and I couldn't be happier. For those unfamiliar with Linux OS, it's an open-source alternative that offers flexibility, customizability, and a robust user experience without the unnecessary baggage of bloated software and hidden costs.
My decision to make the switch was not an easy one. But as I delved deeper into the world of Linux Mint, I discovered a whole new realm of possibilities. Gone are the days of constant system updates and unnecessary restarts. Instead, I now enjoy a stable, efficient, and secure operating system that respects my privacy and empowers me to take control of my digital environment.
If you're feeling even the slightest pang of curiosity about Linux Mint, let me encourage you to give it a try. Embrace the future of open-source technology and join the growing community of satisfied users who have found freedom from the shackles of Windows.
Warm regards,
A Linux Convert
The public Library in a nearby town seem to also be embracing the power of Mint. If its just fan boys, then the fan boys are taking over.
I used Windows for 25 years. Linux is better for me on every level. Just saying. Faster, better, stable, and it doesn't harvest your data or sell you things you don't want or need.
@@erikferguson71 That, and it doesn't break my GPU drivers occasionally when it updates, like Windows 11 seems to like doing.
@@erikferguson71 What about the games?
Stop playing with desktop Linux, this is just a toy. Keep playing while me and my Mac just get on with work.
lol
I've done plenty of work for university on my Linux machine, therefore your statement is false.
it is not your mac. you are just renting their os, and the walled garden walls are so high you cant see much else from your prison..
Mac os is actually super awesome. I use it although I evade apple tax
Apple products are shit.
The truth is that in 2024, the Linux system is so developed that there is no need to use Windows, for someone who uses a browser with add-ons, will create a CV and play on Steam. Linux will work 100%, the advantage is the lack of telemetry.
The truth is not many people know about linux and we may never beat windows
The mayor problem of switching to linux is unlearn windows
The truth is most people have no reason to use Linux, most pre built PCs have windows pre-installed, for 90% of people it works fine. What reason is there for them to put in the effort of installing another OS then having to learn a new work flow and find alternative apps for office etc. There isn’t one.
@@jspink93 It's a matter of changing habits, if Microsoft continues to develop Windows in the wrong direction and cuts support for older computers, Linux is a good successor.
@@szymonmordehaifinkelstein-3697 my point is that for the majority of users they don’t care. They will use Windows as it’s what comes installed. They don’t know are care if it’s no longer getting updates. This is proven by the fact there are still a lot of PCs out there running Windows 7. There are even some still running XP. The thing people in this community don’t understand is that 99% of people don’t have the knowledge or interest you do. The only way Linux wins is for oems to install it instead of Windows. There is no demand for it so it will never happen.
Wayland is NOT a graphics driver.