40-50% winter efficiency is a major turnoff. And asking a dealer if they've actually looked at the battery is giving the consumer no confidence. It tells me probably the majority cannot repair a battery. If the battery is worth more than the purchase, it's not worth to get an EV yet unless you are rich and not living in a winter hellhole.
I saw some news story where a guy's 2017 Nissan leaf battery failed and they can't find him a battery to replace it under warranty. No confidence in their ability to stand behind their products.
If politicians & lawmakers want us all to drive EVs only by 2035, then all politicians should themselves drive EVs by 2030… then they’ll know if this is feasible or practical…
If we don't shift to EV, not only is it bad for the environment but we can kiss our car industry good-bye. China is currently producing EVs at prices LESS than similarly equipped ICE (using Chinese prices for iCE). They have solved the range anxiety issue with their next gen chargers and batteries currently rolling out over the next year . See Zeeker 007 specs). A BYD Seagull EV in China costs less than $13K( CAN$) which is less than half the money of similarly speced EV in Canada. All major ICE car markers in China are closing down their consumer ICE plants in China because they can no longer compete with EV there. Over 50 percent of new car sales in CHina, the largest car market in the world. are now EVs. At current pace ICE will be mostly dead in China within 5 years. Ignoring EVs and slapping on 100 percent tariffs in a protectionist move won't save our car companies. We won't be able to export an ICE car anywhere in 5 years because China will dominate th eglobal market with less expensive EVS that dont' pollute.. There is no out other than learning to become competitive with EVs.
@pa_2600 last year Model Y near fort Mcmurry met a couple in rest area outa charge waiting for a tow truck in -28 weather There 505 km full charge was actually 300 km... That's 40% loss.. 😂
@pa_2600 not resistant to EVs whatsoever, I would even get one myself, just don't like to have to pay for someone else's EV and be told that they will save the planet
Keeping an EV charged over course of a year uses same amount of electricity as a water heater. Grid is not a problem, especially as 90% or more charging is done at night.
That's a valid point. One problem is most of Canada is empty and we are a big country. It's a chicken and egg problem. We need more EVs to justify charging stations but Canadians are less likely to buy EVs because of lack of charging station. Nevertheless this issue will be resolved with time. China is already doing it. It will just take us years longer to get there because we are way behind in EV tech.
EVs are designed for places like Arizona Not Canada Ever had a frozen battery ? Boost and go, no problemo Freeze your EV battery and all the boosting in the world aint gonna help You get the Blue Screen of Death and the car sits like a crashed computer
Not even places like Arizona because it's too hot and that will also degrade the battery due to the extreme heat. It can't operate in extreme heat and it cannot operate an extreme cold.
@@TheeSlickShady_Dave_K Just more mythlogies of ev haters. Statistics on the other hand shows ICE cars have far more fires than EVs. The sharks might get us. I heard it on the "news'.
@@TheeSlickShady_Dave_K China, the biggest car market in the world, over 50 percent of cars sold this year will be EVs. ICE car factory jobs there are disappearing at record pace. while global EV sales continue to take marketshare from ICE, Meanwhile I keep hearing from EV haters that EVs are dying. It's ICE that is dying.
The first automobiles were toys for the rich to practice their new sport; ‘motoring’. EVs are the same. When they finally make them affordable and enough charging stations, then the masses will buy them.
40-50% power loss =40-50% of money you paid got loss too. It's not like charging is free. And when you pay for charging your EV, you pay tax too, so aside from the loss of 40-50%, the govt just gain more money from the tax collected
It;s tru eEVs in Canada are trash or over priced but not everywhere. In China you can by a BYD for under $13K (Can$). They are rolling out 6c chargers that can charge 20-80 percent in 10 minutes. Some of their newer EVs have 500-600 mile range. And they cost less than comparably featured ICE cars. Its exactly why US and AMerican government have slapped on huge 100 percent tariffs. They know if China was allowed to sell EVs in our market they would put most of our local car makers out of business.
@@Eric-lx8hp Average Jan low in Norway -6.8C, average Jan low in Alberta -14C. Average Jan low in Winnipeg -18.5C Much, much colder in the prairies than Norway.
Was this video paid for by the EV lobby? Norway? You mean the county that currently obtains 33% of it's GDP from oil production? And subsidizes electric vehicles purchases by $25000 each! OK, great model to follow. Notice at 5:54 the professor says that "better still not to drive". And there it is. I daily drive a 1996 Ford Thunderbird. Get's the same mileage as it did new and the AC still works. Sat for a year or two when the previous owner got too old to drive. Cost me $500 a year ago. When EV's last over 25 years, can sit unplugged for 8-12 months at a time, and go the same distance as my $500 Ford, get back to me. For now, they are overweight, expensive, status symbols.
You have things exactly backwards. The rightwing pundits that feed you a steady diet of misinformation on global warming and EVs will be exposed as dumbassery once EV global sales surpass ICE within 5 years. In China, the global leader in EV and battery tech and manufacturing, the largest car market in the world, over 50 percent of new car sales this year will be EVs. Car manufacturers there are closing their ICE plants at record speed. That's because Chinese EVs cost around half as much as ours do and are cheaper than iCE even in China.. Their next gen 2025 cars have also solved long standing issue of range ancient with high energy densities that can give 500-600 mile ranges and 20-80 percent 6C charge times of around 10 minutes which is comparable to ICE. Thats the real reason why Trump. Biden and Trudeau want to slap on huge tariffs on Chinese EVs. Our ICE car companies would be at immediately threat of going out of business if China was allowed to sell their EVs here.
The loss of battery efficiency in winter being between 20-40 percent and battery degradation of 30 percent over 3 years means I need an EV with 1500km range from the factory. My current F-150 has a highway range of 1100km.
Hertz sold their entire fleet of EVs because no one wanted to rent them, and the cost of ownership was too high. This tells you everything you need to know about the future of EVs.
Who wants to rent a car and worry how you will recharge it? I want to be driving it, not waiting for it to recharge. No wonder nobody wants to rent it.
Tried public transit (TTC bus) in Toronto last week for the first time ever for a couple of hours, just for the experience... I guess we will be using the horseless buggy for a long time to come yet.
I bought a new Volvo xc40 recharge in 2020, it was the biggest mistake ever. I traded it for a silverado in 2022. The heating systems cant keep up in electric in our climate and waiting your turn to charge for 110 minutes every two hours of highway driving, no thanks!
When any product or service is being pushed as this without a critical thinking of affordability you know there is a serious lobbying by the corporations pressing the government to adopt such product
Imagine forgetting to plug in your vehicle over night - or the power goes out over night. What a nightmare. I will not buy an EV until battery technology improves substantially.
Why not improve PEV infrastructure (protected bike lanes...etc), to encourage uses. With added benefit of lessening the burden of public health care system as it's healthier than sedentary in a car in traffic.
Wow, this is all fearmongering. The grid in Alberta was never at risk of failure. Witness EVERY large skyscraper downtown had all their lights on! This is pure fear and doubt mongering.
How about the cobalt used to process crude...all the minerals used for your cell phones...ev are the future and 95% recyclable....I will let them figure out the supply...I didn't spend 2k on gas last year
Quite the puff piece. Regular garages will fix Tesla batteries when Tesla says the have to be replaced. A fully charged Tesla will dive in the cold, no one said it wouldn't. The government gives companies money to build charge points, but not to fix them. That's why half of them are broken. Some English guy paid £1,300 to have his Tesla headlight replaced. There are a lot of bugs that need to be worked out before I will buy one.
Tesla charging station was crippled / shut down due to extreme cold temperature this year. Nobody can charge their Tesla with Tesla official charging station. It tells the whole story already.
You can buy a few jerrycans and fill with gas and double the range of any gas vehicle for under $200. To double the range of an EV, you are probably looking at a battery weighing at least 500 kg and costing at least $20,000. EV’s are great for the city, zero tailpipe emissions, lots of regenerative braking in stop and go traffic. But they scale up poorly for large vehicles or long distance travel.
Hydrogen hybrids cost most moeny to make than EVs, and has an intrinsic variable cost disadvantage in that you physically have to transport fuel (rather than powerlines). Where you might see hydrogen is where weight and very high energy density plays a major role. For instance , maybe hydrogen will one day replace jetfuel for long haul jumbo jets since it has a much high Wh/kg than current batteries.
What they should have done is includes vehicles like hybrids and not just straight EVs where it's nowhere proven as ice or hybrid engines. This is what happens when you have a former Greenpeace protester who has been arrested as the environmental minister.
Prince George to McBride as a range accomplishment? I've made that trip and I would not be impressed till you could make Prince George to Edmonton on a single charge. Even that is a small segment of a trip should you be heading even farther east and I'll keep my dinosaur, thank you very much.
EVs are the future. Hybrid will only work for markets that have trade barriers for Chinse EVs.The Chinese EV market is at market turning point where they present better value to consumers than ICE or hybrid competitors.
1. I dont care if chargers are all over the place. Why would I want to waste my time sitting in a parking lot when I could fill up and carry on in 5 minutes with gas? 2. They didn't mention the fact that almost no mechanics know how to repair these cars. So back to the dealership to get ripped off.. no thanks. I buy used cars specifically so I dont have to get ripped off by dealerships. 3. Public transit, riding bikes and walking is not feasible for people in rural areas. And guess what. Most of us work in cities but can't afford to live there, so thats going to increasingly become a problem. 4. They breezed over the cost of these batteries and basically avoided the question like a typical left winger would. They cost big time and are just as bad for the environment as fossil fuels are, and that doesn't even take into account all the human rights charges that these lithium mines should be brought up on.
In 10 years you will find it hard to find any ICE cars for sale. ICE is dying. You just don't know it because you have confused our crappy over priced EVs with what is currently available globally. Check out what's going on in EV market in China to see where EV is headed. OVer 50 percent of new car sales there are EVs. ICE will be mostly dead there in 5 years.
are all canadians old-fashioned like people in the comments? geez also, the journalism seems to try really hard to make the case against EVs and the videos are pretty much only showing teslas... what about other brands?
40-50% winter efficiency is a major turnoff. And asking a dealer if they've actually looked at the battery is giving the consumer no confidence. It tells me probably the majority cannot repair a battery. If the battery is worth more than the purchase, it's not worth to get an EV yet unless you are rich and not living in a winter hellhole.
40-50% winter efficiency is a major turnoff. And asking a dealer if they've actually looked at the battery is giving the consumer no confidence. It tells me probably the majority cannot repair a battery. If the battery is worth more than the purchase, it's not worth to get an EV yet unless you are rich and not living in a winter hellhole.
I saw some news story where a guy's 2017 Nissan leaf battery failed and they can't find him a battery to replace it under warranty. No confidence in their ability to stand behind their products.
@@jasonschlesinger5343 wow! fml
Min 80%, like with my previous ICE (of it started at all(
If politicians & lawmakers want us all to drive EVs only by 2035, then all politicians should themselves drive EVs by 2030… then they’ll know if this is feasible or practical…
Well I don't see the PM or US President using electric vehicles in their security detail, so what does that tell us?
Trudeau has multiple 6.0L suburbans 🤣
@@Themiddleman416 Shows how mich confidence they have in electric vehicles.
If we don't shift to EV, not only is it bad for the environment but we can kiss our car industry good-bye.
China is currently producing EVs at prices LESS than similarly equipped ICE (using Chinese prices for iCE). They have solved the range anxiety issue with their next gen chargers and batteries currently rolling out over the next year . See Zeeker 007 specs). A BYD Seagull EV in China costs less than $13K( CAN$) which is less than half the money of similarly speced EV in Canada. All major ICE car markers in China are closing down their consumer ICE plants in China because they can no longer compete with EV there. Over 50 percent of new car sales in CHina, the largest car market in the world. are now EVs. At current pace ICE will be mostly dead in China within 5 years.
Ignoring EVs and slapping on 100 percent tariffs in a protectionist move won't save our car companies. We won't be able to export an ICE car anywhere in 5 years because China will dominate th eglobal market with less expensive EVS that dont' pollute.. There is no out other than learning to become competitive with EVs.
40-50% winter inefficiency
@pa_2600 last year Model Y near fort Mcmurry met a couple in rest area outa charge waiting for a tow truck in -28 weather
There 505 km full charge was actually 300 km... That's 40% loss.. 😂
And forget about heat in the cabin
@pa_2600 not resistant to EVs whatsoever, I would even get one myself, just don't like to have to pay for someone else's EV and be told that they will save the planet
@pa_2600 works fine few degrees above freezing point but below that the heat is needed to keep the battery warm...
No mention of slave labour but they did give a lot of good talking points in this video.
Where is the video of the Ford CEO talking about the time it takes to drive with electric vehicle vs gas powered?
All I need to know is I won’t be buying one.
You will most likely have to unless you walk or bike. Or buy a used gas vehicle from another person
Canada just doesn't have enough infrastructure for fast charging or even just charging in general
YET.
Do you really think gas stations pop up before gas cars
Keeping an EV charged over course of a year uses same amount of electricity as a water heater. Grid is not a problem, especially as 90% or more charging is done at night.
That's a valid point. One problem is most of Canada is empty and we are a big country. It's a chicken and egg problem. We need more EVs to justify charging stations but Canadians are less likely to buy EVs because of lack of charging station. Nevertheless this issue will be resolved with time. China is already doing it. It will just take us years longer to get there because we are way behind in EV tech.
EVs are designed for places like Arizona
Not Canada
Ever had a frozen battery ?
Boost and go, no problemo
Freeze your EV battery and all the boosting in the world aint gonna help
You get the Blue Screen of Death and the car sits like a crashed computer
Not even places like Arizona because it's too hot and that will also degrade the battery due to the extreme heat. It can't operate in extreme heat and it cannot operate an extreme cold.
92 percent of new car sales in Norway are EVs. Norway is colder than most major Canadian markets.
@@mydogsbutler
So cold in Norway they are hoping the fires from those batteries will keep them warm
🔥
@@TheeSlickShady_Dave_K Just more mythlogies of ev haters. Statistics on the other hand shows ICE cars have far more fires than EVs.
The sharks might get us. I heard it on the "news'.
@@TheeSlickShady_Dave_K China, the biggest car market in the world, over 50 percent of cars sold this year will be EVs. ICE car factory jobs there are disappearing at record pace. while global EV sales continue to take marketshare from ICE, Meanwhile I keep hearing from EV haters that EVs are dying. It's ICE that is dying.
The first automobiles were toys for the rich to practice their new sport; ‘motoring’.
EVs are the same. When they finally make them affordable and enough charging stations, then the masses will buy them.
They cost too much and are a pain to charge away from your house.
For now
You can already get an EV for $11k, just not in NA. We need to start opening up our markets to more imports.
Video Title : "Inexpensive Seagull electric car has US automakers, politicians trembling with fear"
So wait until the technology's more mature and cheaper
Technology is already mature and cheap. You can already get an EV for $11k, just not NA. We need to start opening up our markets to more imports.
Video Title : "Inexpensive Seagull electric car has US automakers, politicians trembling with fear"
Depreciation costs on electric vehicles are staggering. It makes no sense to buy one for this reason alone.
40-50% power loss =40-50% of money you paid got loss too.
It's not like charging is free.
And when you pay for charging your EV, you pay tax too, so aside from the loss of 40-50%, the govt just gain more money from the tax collected
Too expensive. Bye.
The average car price in Canada is 66K.
You can already get an EV for $11k, just not in NA. We need to start opening up our markets to more imports.
Video Title : "Inexpensive Seagull electric car has US automakers, politicians trembling with fear"
"I thought it would be worst"
I like that the car lost 40-50% efficiency during his winter drive, but they appear to brush it off like its nothing lol
Because uhty only lose 15-20%, like ICE cars do.
Big scam
1:50 "Sales mandates". Look at the adjective "Mandates". - Kevin Nash.
lol, powered by coal.... EV's are trash.
0-60 mph in 1.99 seconds.
@@Trust_but_Verify LOL who cares!
It;s tru eEVs in Canada are trash or over priced but not everywhere. In China you can by a BYD for under $13K (Can$). They are rolling out 6c chargers that can charge 20-80 percent in 10 minutes. Some of their newer EVs have 500-600 mile range. And they cost less than comparably featured ICE cars. Its exactly why US and AMerican government have slapped on huge 100 percent tariffs. They know if China was allowed to sell EVs in our market they would put most of our local car makers out of business.
They are scam, especially in canadian winter
Is it colder then a Norway winter?...
@@Eric-lx8hp By far. Norway does not experience the winters Canada does.
@@Eric-lx8hp Average Jan low in Norway -6.8C, average Jan low in Alberta -14C. Average Jan low in Winnipeg -18.5C Much, much colder in the prairies than Norway.
@@Eric-lx8hp also, the distances travelled in Canada are massive, in comparison to 2 dimensional Norway.
For Chinese BYD cars, the Chinese government can remotely control your car's brake system.
They're a scam...
Gas cars are the scam, freeze solid in winter unless you plug it in
Was this video paid for by the EV lobby? Norway? You mean the county that currently obtains 33% of it's GDP from oil production? And subsidizes electric vehicles purchases by $25000 each! OK, great model to follow. Notice at 5:54 the professor says that "better still not to drive". And there it is. I daily drive a 1996 Ford Thunderbird. Get's the same mileage as it did new and the AC still works. Sat for a year or two when the previous owner got too old to drive. Cost me $500 a year ago. When EV's last over 25 years, can sit unplugged for 8-12 months at a time, and go the same distance as my $500 Ford, get back to me. For now, they are overweight, expensive, status symbols.
Mandated to produce evs! I am bying ice vehicles. I will vote .
We will look back on the EV fad someday and laugh at how dumb it was.
You have things exactly backwards. The rightwing pundits that feed you a steady diet of misinformation on global warming and EVs will be exposed as dumbassery once EV global sales surpass ICE within 5 years. In China, the global leader in EV and battery tech and manufacturing, the largest car market in the world, over 50 percent of new car sales this year will be EVs. Car manufacturers there are closing their ICE plants at record speed. That's because Chinese EVs cost around half as much as ours do and are cheaper than iCE even in China.. Their next gen 2025 cars have also solved long standing issue of range ancient with high energy densities that can give 500-600 mile ranges and 20-80 percent 6C charge times of around 10 minutes which is comparable to ICE.
Thats the real reason why Trump. Biden and Trudeau want to slap on huge tariffs on Chinese EVs. Our ICE car companies would be at immediately threat of going out of business if China was allowed to sell their EVs here.
If you care about the environment so much, just walk.
The loss of battery efficiency in winter being between 20-40 percent and battery degradation of 30 percent over 3 years means I need an EV with 1500km range from the factory. My current F-150 has a highway range of 1100km.
No discussion on fire risk of EVs, biased reporting
research who owns global enough said and see where his political affiliations are...
Hertz sold their entire fleet of EVs because no one wanted to rent them, and the cost of ownership was too high. This tells you everything you need to know about the future of EVs.
Who wants to rent a car and worry how you will recharge it? I want to be driving it, not waiting for it to recharge. No wonder nobody wants to rent it.
Only place in Canada where EV's are practical is Vancouver, but good luck even living there in the first place though.
Tried public transit (TTC bus) in Toronto last week for the first time ever for a couple of hours, just for the experience... I guess we will be using the horseless buggy for a long time to come yet.
I bought a new Volvo xc40 recharge in 2020, it was the biggest mistake ever. I traded it for a silverado in 2022. The heating systems cant keep up in electric in our climate and waiting your turn to charge for 110 minutes every two hours of highway driving, no thanks!
Summer use only. Batteries don’t like Canadian Winters.
They don’t like cold weather
Booo! Make electric wheels we can put on ice vehicles to hybridize the current reality.
Too expensive Bye 👋
When any product or service is being pushed as this without a critical thinking of affordability you know there is a serious lobbying by the corporations pressing the government to adopt such product
"i'm sure you heard things like EVs will crash the grid"
... nope, never heard that one before and I work in the car industry.
Imagine forgetting to plug in your vehicle over night - or the power goes out over night. What a nightmare. I will not buy an EV until battery technology improves substantially.
Why not improve PEV infrastructure (protected bike lanes...etc), to encourage uses. With added benefit of lessening the burden of public health care system as it's healthier than sedentary in a car in traffic.
Wow, this is all fearmongering. The grid in Alberta was never at risk of failure. Witness EVERY large skyscraper downtown had all their lights on! This is pure fear and doubt mongering.
How about the cobalt used to process crude...all the minerals used for your cell phones...ev are the future and 95% recyclable....I will let them figure out the supply...I didn't spend 2k on gas last year
The same problems they had when electric vehicles were produced in the early 1800's
Quite the puff piece. Regular garages will fix Tesla batteries when Tesla says the have to be replaced. A fully charged Tesla will dive in the cold, no one said it wouldn't. The government gives companies money to build charge points, but not to fix them. That's why half of them are broken. Some English guy paid £1,300 to have his Tesla headlight replaced. There are a lot of bugs that need to be worked out before I will buy one.
Tesla charging station was crippled / shut down due to extreme cold temperature this year. Nobody can charge their Tesla with Tesla official charging station. It tells the whole story already.
You can buy a few jerrycans and fill with gas and double the range of any gas vehicle for under $200.
To double the range of an EV, you are probably looking at a battery weighing at least 500 kg and costing at least $20,000.
EV’s are great for the city, zero tailpipe emissions, lots of regenerative braking in stop and go traffic. But they scale up poorly for large vehicles or long distance travel.
Not on a Pension or Low Wage earners budget.
A little forward thinking would tell you that Hydrogen is the future
Hydrogen hybrids cost most moeny to make than EVs, and has an intrinsic variable cost disadvantage in that you physically have to transport fuel (rather than powerlines). Where you might see hydrogen is where weight and very high energy density plays a major role. For instance , maybe hydrogen will one day replace jetfuel for long haul jumbo jets since it has a much high Wh/kg than current batteries.
What they should have done is includes vehicles like hybrids and not just straight EVs where it's nowhere proven as ice or hybrid engines. This is what happens when you have a former Greenpeace protester who has been arrested as the environmental minister.
EV sodium ion battery is best suited for cold weather.
It is ideal for Canadian winter. It holds the charges longer.
JAC Sodium ion Battery EV
Means nothing if the rest of the world don’t go along with it
Sure it does, it means the elites got richer on your dime.
I’ve seen the videos 🔥🔥🔥
I’m Not buying something that can burn my house down while i sleep
*NO* to EV mandates
unless chinese or european ev do not come in canada or us . old ice car company will charge more for it .
Prince George to McBride as a range accomplishment? I've made that trip and I would not be impressed till you could make Prince George to Edmonton on a single charge. Even that is a small segment of a trip should you be heading even farther east and I'll keep my dinosaur, thank you very much.
Hybrids are the future. Ask Toyota.
EVs are the future. Hybrid will only work for markets that have trade barriers for Chinse EVs.The Chinese EV market is at market turning point where they present better value to consumers than ICE or hybrid competitors.
Anyone like my comments if you think EVs are a no go for most of Canada
🔥🔥🔥
Pure propaganda, and by the looks of the dislike counter, people see it...
EVs suck
There is no place for you in this area. Don't waste time to think it.
These EV cars are nothing more than a waste of money.
Seems in prototype stage still. They need to improve
Not to EV.
1. I dont care if chargers are all over the place. Why would I want to waste my time sitting in a parking lot when I could fill up and carry on in 5 minutes with gas?
2. They didn't mention the fact that almost no mechanics know how to repair these cars. So back to the dealership to get ripped off.. no thanks. I buy used cars specifically so I dont have to get ripped off by dealerships.
3. Public transit, riding bikes and walking is not feasible for people in rural areas. And guess what. Most of us work in cities but can't afford to live there, so thats going to increasingly become a problem.
4. They breezed over the cost of these batteries and basically avoided the question like a typical left winger would. They cost big time and are just as bad for the environment as fossil fuels are, and that doesn't even take into account all the human rights charges that these lithium mines should be brought up on.
Dont even get me started on how much EVs wear tires. You might need to buy tires every one or 2 years.
Just a bomb sitting in your garage
Like in Back to the Future where's our Mr. Fusion engine?
@@Nasty2leggedRat Well nuts. Road trip!
biggest issue is electric cars exploding and toxic fires....... there still not safe
Looking to buy myself an old classic vintage 1980s land yacht. I will NEVER buy an EV !
In 10 years you will find it hard to find any ICE cars for sale. ICE is dying. You just don't know it because you have confused our crappy over priced EVs with what is currently available globally. Check out what's going on in EV market in China to see where EV is headed. OVer 50 percent of new car sales there are EVs. ICE will be mostly dead there in 5 years.
Good luck implementing the EV mandate 😂
Junk
These are stupid
I know they suck
For a city commutee car and you have place to charge at work/home its a no brainer to get one
N E V E R
are all canadians old-fashioned like people in the comments? geez
also, the journalism seems to try really hard to make the case against EVs and the videos are pretty much only showing teslas... what about other brands?
40-50% winter efficiency is a major turnoff. And asking a dealer if they've actually looked at the battery is giving the consumer no confidence. It tells me probably the majority cannot repair a battery. If the battery is worth more than the purchase, it's not worth to get an EV yet unless you are rich and not living in a winter hellhole.