As a previous owner of the pre face lift g20 3 series I think thr exterior changes are nice but the interior is a step back. No heating controls, no gear lever and that dual curved screen slapped on just doesn't look as good (I'm sure the functionality and OS is better though).
All cars should have physical controls for climate as well as entertainment systems. Touch screens will cause the driver to remove his/her eyes from the road and lead to more dangerous accidents. It’s time for car designers to wake up!
I wonder if it’s designers fault or if management forces them to do so. Not adding extra buttons (switches, material itself, mould for the buttons, backlight of the button) saves them some money when they produce like 50.000 of that model every year. So they may be forced to do so. I aspire to be a car designer one day, if I get there I’ll make sure to keep some physical buttons for you guys!
Do BMW use focus groups before they revise their models.? Touchscreens are a VERY DANGEROUS distracting development. Design is a matter of taste but safety and function should be prioritised over style and cost reductions. It seems that BMW cannot any longer claim to be the ultimate driving machine. Very disappointing.
I have the 320i LCI and you quickly get used to the screen- everything else seems dated now. Brilliant to drive- especially compared to family SUVs which people are suckered into
I like the updated exterior but it's a big no on the updated interior. The oversized display looks out of place and doesn't appear to be well integrated into the cabin (too Tesla-like) and removing more knobs is a big no no for me. Overall I rate this upgrade as a thumbs down.
I like the lack of a Beaver face and the wonderful interior. The arms behind the screen look fugly tho. I hope they stop stretching the body because the 3 Series is already the size of an old 5 Series. It is not a Compact Sports Sedan anymore.
No shortcut buttons? NOOOOOOOOO BMW, what have you done. Massive backwards step, it’s what spectated your from the rest of the pack when it comes to interior functionality. A sad day
They listen to customers which is why they removed them. It looks far better now and only people who are old or completely useless when it comes to technology don't know how to use them.
@@N1ckZ it’s not about the ‘look’, it’s about the functionality of the controls. There are numerous well researched analyses of the dangers of touchscreens in cars, and the superiority of physical controls - especially for basic functions like climate controls and volume. It is only a matter of time before safety regulators crack down on the use of touchscreens. They are just a fad - nothing more. Of course they are useful for certain controls but not for ones that are calibrated while the car is moving. This issue is not a matter of age - it applies to everyone both young and old.
@@erasmus9627 it really doesn't. What's the difference between pressing a physical button and pressing a virtual button? You have to look at what you are about to press in both circumstances especially if your car has lots of physical buttons next to each other. For me it makes absolutely zero difference and it doesn't make me drive dangerously. If having to look for a split second to press a button makes you crash then you shouldn't have a driving license.
@@N1ckZ you can turn a physical knob to adjust airconditioning without taking your eyes off the road. You can’t do this with a touchscreen. It’s basic ergonomics.
@@erasmus9627 you have to look at the temperature and also how many times do you do that every day? Anyways I am glad they removed the physical controls and I am even more glad that the next 5 Series that will come out soon, won't have buttons either to annoy climate control enthusiasts such as yourself.
Can't wait for touchscreens to be removed from all modern cars again when everyone realizes how crap and dangerous they are to use whilst you're driving.
I could not agree more. What is so annoying is that with a digital screen, they could offer a representation of their lovely classic orange backlit dials for a bit of programming effort.
I currently own a 330e M Sport Touring… so wish they’d not removed the physical buttons and BIG BIG opportunity missed by not enhancing the batteries and hence the range. If was 60 plus miles would be very happy.
Yeah, I have the same, the lease is up in a year and it would be a no-brainer to get this again if the electric range was longer meaner UK company car tax much lower (oh yeah, and physical buttons please, I even use the programmable buttons for custom functions!).
Exterior is as nice if not nicer than previous, but the interior with its stuck on screen looks awful. LCI model in this case is a slight step back inside.
Check out the rear wheel drive 230i coupe in base trim. Find a 2022 model without the elongated touch screen if possible. Some dealers still have them and they are thrilling to drive and a great value when options are limited.
Significantly nicer than the pre face lift model. Regardless of some comments interior with new dash, is also a huge step forward. Before it was very dated compared to Mercedes, Audi and Tesla.
Superb cars, as are the 5 Series. Shame they've removed the physical buttons and I'm not a fan of these extended slab screens that BMW have used here and that Mercedes use.
So many people had issues with the m3 ,s grill but there,s nothing worse than this plastic honk ,looks in real life soooo cheap I can’t believe anybody would have it.the car,s german luxury,expensive but with kinder egg plastic grill ,what to save half a grame of co2 and be a bit more economical.don’t know how many theyvwill sell
Personally, I think the lci just look off compared to pre lci. The front end just look neither sporty nor elegant. The upside down led headlights combined with the Toyota corolla style lower grill just looks uninspiring.
If it's basically all automatics outside of the base diesel (when IF only one engine is allowed to get a manual, you'd think it'd be the base petrol), like it became here in Ireland after a recent refresh, it's a no for me! - every car should be available with a manual first with automatic options for the use people that want them for whatever reason!! 😯😂😀🤘 (In recent years, a manual was available on most specs, though the silly automatic was the default option on the website, until suddenly the manuals as said disappeared in most specs recently - similarly the second gen Peugeot 508 is automatic only outside of the base diesel here! 😯😂)
Motoring journos like this guy only extoll the positive aspects but there's more to car ownership.. I think BMW needs to work on its dealer network. The support to owners when things don't work (inevitable for modern cars) is just not good enough
As we're getting used to - BMW is ugly as ever. Wait, what? BMW used to make some of the most beautiful cars - right from early 1960ies to mid-2000s! How can their beauty now be ugly? What is that huge underlip on this facelifted (sorry, LCI-ed) one? What is the monstrosity that is the XM? What are the stupid rectangular pods on all four corners of the facelifted 2-series? Why cannot be get used to marketing BS like "disruptive revolutionary mascular sporty manly ingenious" - when it's all obviously just bad, chaotic design?
I bought the 2022 330e .Ordered it in March 2022 and wasnt ready to be picked up until End of July 2022. Absolutely LOVE this car. My first Beemer. ALways thought spending this much for a car wasn't worth it just to get from point A to point B . Wouldnt trade it at all. Feels so sturdy , pick up is awesome . It looks beautiful inside and out. Not a fan of the bogger 2023 larger curved screen- looks cumbersome to me.
I have a Taycan and no physical buttons for climate control. I have since buying it not once touched the screen to change to direction of the airflow. Its just perfect, winter or summer. I suspect its the same her so nothing lost, in contrary. No need to fiddle around those anymore 😊
The lesser models in 'sport' trim have much nicer suspension. Unfortunately most people just go straight for an M Sport though for the aggressive looks and badges
Ghastly & unsafe is what the interior has become without easy to use buttons & stupid touchscreens that take your eyes off the road which is extremely dangerous on UK’s busy roads…BMW hardly thinking of safety & just keeping up with the jones….on having flatscreen TV style gadgets..
Last month I purchased my 2019 330 i at end of lease instead of the usual 3-year/new car lease because I really dislike the LCI interior- its bad enough they took away even the option of a manual, as well as designing a tachometer facing in the wrong direction in 2019, but no HVAC controls, a crappy looking bolt-on screen, and no gearshift, just a tiny toggle .. in a BMW!
Would I spend £40K on this car -good and pretty as it is- instead of an EV? I don't think so. BMW should follow Ford's example in dumping the Fiesta. Saying all that, if you give me one, I'll have it.
Brits seem to be obsessed with climate physical buttons. It's as if they have some sort of touch screen disability, or some medical condition that makes them constantly feeling either cold or warm. The global customers, on the other hand, set their preferred temperature and ventilation settings and enjoy the marvel of automatic climate controls which make sure they are always the same.
@@jinyuichi6460 No, you don't. You set the desired temperature and the system adjust automatically so that you always have that regardless of outside temperature. Magic!
Overly harsh. Check out the 2022, 230i rear wheel drive coupe. It’s a thrilling ride with great gas mileage. Minimally optioned for less than $40k. Nice!
As a previous owner of the pre face lift g20 3 series I think thr exterior changes are nice but the interior is a step back. No heating controls, no gear lever and that dual curved screen slapped on just doesn't look as good (I'm sure the functionality and OS is better though).
I agree I'm not a fan of the new screen.
The screen needs to be built in more with the dash, it looks like an aftermarket add on..also is that a massive dust gap behind it?
Agreed, I prefer the physical buttons. The new huge screen is like an aftermarket part.
All cars should have physical controls for climate as well as entertainment systems. Touch screens will cause the driver to remove his/her eyes from the road and lead to more dangerous accidents. It’s time for car designers to wake up!
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I wonder if it’s designers fault or if management forces them to do so. Not adding extra buttons (switches, material itself, mould for the buttons, backlight of the button) saves them some money when they produce like 50.000 of that model every year. So they may be forced to do so. I aspire to be a car designer one day, if I get there I’ll make sure to keep some physical buttons for you guys!
Do BMW use focus groups before they revise their models.? Touchscreens are a VERY DANGEROUS distracting development. Design is a matter of taste but safety and function should be prioritised over style and cost reductions. It seems that BMW cannot any longer claim to be the ultimate driving machine. Very disappointing.
Yeah totally agree- i rule a car out as soon as i see that as its the biggest irritation for me
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After seeing the car at the Shawroom removed any doubt about getting the pre face-lift 340i rather than getting this one. no regrets.
Having touch screen only is just silly.
Why do most new cars now have head rests that push much too far forward and cause an uncomfortable head down attitude? I also hate the touch controls.
I have the 320i LCI and you quickly get used to the screen- everything else seems dated now.
Brilliant to drive- especially compared to family SUVs which people are suckered into
@@Tondaloona03 judging by your childish comment, I'd be surprised if you're even old enough to drive
@@Tondaloona03There's definitely someone who has no friends in this comment section
The new panel absolutely ruins it.
I like the updated exterior but it's a big no on the updated interior. The oversized display looks out of place and doesn't appear to be well integrated into the cabin (too Tesla-like) and removing more knobs is a big no no for me. Overall I rate this upgrade as a thumbs down.
Just sold my 3 series and desperately missing it. Great driving car and the dealer i sold it to moved it on in 3 days.
U should go to a country where they offers the 330Li . The suspension is just amazing.
I wish they kept the old laser headlights
Bring back climate control buttons and number shortcuts were among the best ergonomics by BMW.
Good update to the car.
I like the lack of a Beaver face and the wonderful interior. The arms behind the screen look fugly tho. I hope they stop stretching the body because the 3 Series is already the size of an old 5 Series. It is not a Compact Sports Sedan anymore.
Great looking car 👍
It looks so good saw one today
Really want a new 2023 330-e.
BMW have polluted their own brand by slapping the 'M' badge on virtually every model.
No shortcut buttons? NOOOOOOOOO BMW, what have you done. Massive backwards step, it’s what spectated your from the rest of the pack when it comes to interior functionality. A sad day
It has 4 shortcut "buttons" if you pull down on the top right of the screen you can have 4 custom buttons and some other pre set shortcuts.
@@Lambsbecomeg0ds still not physical buttons 😞
Apart from removing the physical climate controls (I wish they'd listen to their customers), it's a 👍🏼 from me.
They listen to customers which is why they removed them. It looks far better now and only people who are old or completely useless when it comes to technology don't know how to use them.
@@N1ckZ it’s not about the ‘look’, it’s about the functionality of the controls. There are numerous well researched analyses of the dangers of touchscreens in cars, and the superiority of physical controls - especially for basic functions like climate controls and volume. It is only a matter of time before safety regulators crack down on the use of touchscreens. They are just a fad - nothing more. Of course they are useful for certain controls but not for ones that are calibrated while the car is moving. This issue is not a matter of age - it applies to everyone both young and old.
@@erasmus9627 it really doesn't. What's the difference between pressing a physical button and pressing a virtual button? You have to look at what you are about to press in both circumstances especially if your car has lots of physical buttons next to each other. For me it makes absolutely zero difference and it doesn't make me drive dangerously. If having to look for a split second to press a button makes you crash then you shouldn't have a driving license.
@@N1ckZ you can turn a physical knob to adjust airconditioning without taking your eyes off the road. You can’t do this with a touchscreen. It’s basic ergonomics.
@@erasmus9627 you have to look at the temperature and also how many times do you do that every day? Anyways I am glad they removed the physical controls and I am even more glad that the next 5 Series that will come out soon, won't have buttons either to annoy climate control enthusiasts such as yourself.
3 series is usually a superb car. Shame BMW are trying to make an iPhone on wheels.
why is there this fixation on removing buttons and having ugly stuck on infotainment system as if it was an afterthought.. definitely a no go for me
I wont be upgrading to this , touch sensitive controls doesn't work 🤦🏻♂️ ffs
Can't wait for touchscreens to be removed from all modern cars again when everyone realizes how crap and dangerous they are to use whilst you're driving.
They will be removed about the same time all manufacturers go back to manual transmissions. So... never
Don’t compare BMW to a downmarket Tesla.
The pathetic gear selector tells me all I really need to know about the latest cars in general.
The lack of physical buttons would put me off. Bring them back!
BMW used to be the best looking car out there now. Now it's just meh
So sad what BMW has become. They used to make the best dials and switchgear in the business. I don’t see how this is significantly better than an E46.
I could not agree more. What is so annoying is that with a digital screen, they could offer a representation of their lovely classic orange backlit dials for a bit of programming effort.
Are you old enough to remember when BMWs used VDO gauges?
The new DRLs are horrible. Why reversing the iconic L shape….
The front lights are not as nice as the pre LCI. The leds are the wrong way up.
Also air con needs a fixed panel with hard buttons AND the gauges for speed and revs are hideous. Bring back round dials
I currently own a 330e M Sport Touring… so wish they’d not removed the physical buttons and BIG BIG opportunity missed by not enhancing the batteries and hence the range. If was 60 plus miles would be very happy.
Yeah, I have the same, the lease is up in a year and it would be a no-brainer to get this again if the electric range was longer meaner UK company car tax much lower (oh yeah, and physical buttons please, I even use the programmable buttons for custom functions!).
Removing the hot keys, dials and buttons.
Ugh.
The BMW 3 series,the car by which all others are judged! The diesel model is brilliant! All carmakers,please give us back our switches.
Boot sizes given in the video seem to be of the plug in versions which are smaller. The saloon has 480L not 375L as stated here.
Exterior is as nice if not nicer than previous, but the interior with its stuck on screen looks awful. LCI model in this case is a slight step back inside.
While I love the interior design I still can't feel the same for the exterior, something is missing at any view angle.
BMW used to be be all about the driver. All controls were simple and easy to use without any distraction. BMW no longer make drivers cars. Awful.
Check out the rear wheel drive 230i coupe in base trim. Find a 2022 model without the elongated touch screen if possible. Some dealers still have them and they are thrilling to drive and a great value when options are limited.
@@rembo183 I have an E36 and E46 m3. Never selling them
@@fvresonanator - Yep that’s a good decision !
Significantly nicer than the pre face lift model. Regardless of some comments interior with new dash, is also a huge step forward. Before it was very dated compared to Mercedes, Audi and Tesla.
who the hell wants a car without buttons, why does anybody think thats what people want apart from Tesla goons
What an ugly front/bumper
Touch sensitive controls, just stop it.
Superb cars, as are the 5 Series. Shame they've removed the physical buttons and I'm not a fan of these extended slab screens that BMW have used here and that Mercedes use.
I am a massive fan of the bis screens and I am glad they removed the buttons
@@N1ckZ Each to their own, of course. I suspect this betrays your age and interests.
@@resnonverba137 the same could be said about you, I guess.
@@N1ckZ Indeed. At least regarding age, to some degree.
@@Tondaloona03 If you find them boring, I can only assume you've jumped on the anti-BMW bandwagon without ever having been able to drive one.
I think the new look cluster has ruined the BMW, bring back the old instrument cluster, it just looks cheesy, it’s not a Tesla, it’s a BMW
So many people had issues with the m3 ,s grill but there,s nothing worse than this plastic honk ,looks in real life soooo cheap I can’t believe anybody would have it.the car,s german luxury,expensive but with kinder egg plastic grill ,what to save half a grame of co2 and be a bit more economical.don’t know how many theyvwill sell
No physical controls for aircon in the new BMW 3 series. That’s ridiculous! Who makes these bad decisions? They should be fired.
U can always buy the 2022 model year. Still new
Whats the difference when controlling them with the touchscreen? Its still just one touch....
@@thundergun100 touchscreens u cant use when driving. Buttons are better. Especially here in south Africa with aggressive driving
And bright sunlight
@@stardustmusic448 you can also operate it via gesture or the assistant so 🤷
The screen will cause accidents with it's distractions.
🙄 ugh et tu, BMW!
They've given up listening to .. well, everyone about physical buttons
Personally, I think the lci just look off compared to pre lci. The front end just look neither sporty nor elegant. The upside down led headlights combined with the Toyota corolla style lower grill just looks uninspiring.
If it's basically all automatics outside of the base diesel (when IF only one engine is allowed to get a manual, you'd think it'd be the base petrol), like it became here in Ireland after a recent refresh, it's a no for me! - every car should be available with a manual first with automatic options for the use people that want them for whatever reason!! 😯😂😀🤘
(In recent years, a manual was available on most specs, though the silly automatic was the default option on the website, until suddenly the manuals as said disappeared in most specs recently - similarly the second gen Peugeot 508 is automatic only outside of the base diesel here! 😯😂)
Pleased I've just gone for the previous model, that interior (namely that huge screen) is absolutely awful.
Motoring journos like this guy only extoll the positive aspects but there's more to car ownership.. I think BMW needs to work on its dealer network. The support to owners when things don't work (inevitable for modern cars) is just not good enough
As we're getting used to - BMW is ugly as ever. Wait, what? BMW used to make some of the most beautiful cars - right from early 1960ies to mid-2000s! How can their beauty now be ugly? What is that huge underlip on this facelifted (sorry, LCI-ed) one? What is the monstrosity that is the XM? What are the stupid rectangular pods on all four corners of the facelifted 2-series? Why cannot be get used to marketing BS like "disruptive revolutionary mascular sporty manly ingenious" - when it's all obviously just bad, chaotic design?
Keeping my 330i 2019!!
Glad to see its going back towards the f30 shape more sharp edges
I own one and it’s got a much better engine
The screens ruined the interior.
I don’t care about the screens since I did not have the pre-LCI. I’m in love with my LCI M340i 🔥
They saved it by keeping the rotary controller IMHO
Only just
Thankfully the notched headlights have been ditched
Doug has been hitting the gym!
I bought the 2022 330e .Ordered it in March 2022 and wasnt ready to be picked up until End of July 2022. Absolutely LOVE this car. My first Beemer. ALways thought spending this much for a car wasn't worth it just to get from point A to point B . Wouldnt trade it at all. Feels so sturdy , pick up is awesome . It looks beautiful inside and out. Not a fan of the bogger 2023 larger curved screen- looks cumbersome to me.
Hey how much did you pick it up for
BMW has deleted about half the models from the UK line-up. All available in major markets, but the UK isn't one of those any more.
I have a Taycan and no physical buttons for climate control. I have since buying it not once touched the screen to change to direction of the airflow. Its just perfect, winter or summer. I suspect its the same her so nothing lost, in contrary. No need to fiddle around those anymore 😊
So glad I got 21 plate rather have the physical buttons for the heating. That the idrive 8
I wud rather stick with E90. I like its round gauges.
One can sit and watch this car for days.
The voice controls work well so that you don't really need to turn knobs or touch some screen.
As a Merc man, I love this 3 series.
@@Tondaloona03 cool story.
@@Tondaloona03 cool story, thanks.
@@Tondaloona03 What an original come back. You must be the most intelligent one in class and at work.
@@Tondaloona03 Says the person with unoriginal comebacks and has fetish with comparing a car to a females clitoris. Seek some help, it's not normal.
I was gonna congratulate Lindsey on her pregnancy but u guys disabled the comments lol come on!!
Looks good, In the market for a sedan, might like the Volvo S60 recharge more though
Ruined? WTF, this is a masterful LCI. Best in class got better by a country mile?
amazung car... will it last to 100k km with out issues?
Wow i love the 3 series, best car in the world
Climate control touchscreen 😡😡😡😡😡
Thats it ruled out for me
BMW.... RELIABILITY 🤔
Nice looking car though 👍🏿✌🏿
Hard ride doesn't sell it. Poor electric only range is way off rivals. Just not a Beemer fan so a little biased.
The lesser models in 'sport' trim have much nicer suspension. Unfortunately most people just go straight for an M Sport though for the aggressive looks and badges
You can delete M-Sport suspension and go for standard suspension from the options list if ordering from factory
Ghastly & unsafe is what the interior has become without easy to use buttons & stupid touchscreens that take your eyes off the road which is extremely dangerous on UK’s busy roads…BMW hardly thinking of safety & just keeping up with the jones….on having flatscreen TV style gadgets..
BMW has become so disappointing the last few years. Everything just looks so ugly.
Last month I purchased my 2019 330 i at end of lease instead of the usual 3-year/new car lease because I really dislike the LCI interior- its bad enough they took away even the option of a manual, as well as designing a tachometer facing in the wrong direction in 2019, but no HVAC controls, a crappy looking bolt-on screen, and no gearshift, just a tiny toggle .. in a BMW!
2 each their own cause I love all the updates.
Massive shame that you can’t get park assistance plus and driver assist packs on normal 3 series. Only on m lite m. That’s just a massive turn off
So sad this curved display. To complicated. Ugly at it's utmost.
RUIBED!
Looks great
BMW has lost the plat and is now the go to brand if you want an ugly monster on the road.
What colour is this one? 👌
GL
Mercedes E Class is just an amazing car.
Strange comment to make on a video for a BMW 3 series
Would I spend £40K on this car -good and pretty as it is- instead of an EV? I don't think so.
BMW should follow Ford's example in dumping the Fiesta.
Saying all that, if you give me one, I'll have it.
Glad the Peugeot style raised but from the bumper onto the headlights have gone! Nothing wrong with the new Peugeot just didn’t sit right on the BM
Model 3 over this all day every day. Try it and see.
I’d honestly rather have a 2.0T Giulia than a 330i
Brits seem to be obsessed with climate physical buttons. It's as if they have some sort of touch screen disability, or some medical condition that makes them constantly feeling either cold or warm.
The global customers, on the other hand, set their preferred temperature and ventilation settings and enjoy the marvel of automatic climate controls which make sure they are always the same.
Lol British weather changes very rapidly in a matter of weeks. From blistering cold to scorching heat. You always have to alter the climate control.
@@jinyuichi6460 No, you don't. You set the desired temperature and the system adjust automatically so that you always have that regardless of outside temperature. Magic!
Overpriced, over engineered, unreliable trash...
Overly harsh. Check out the 2022, 230i rear wheel drive coupe. It’s a thrilling ride with great gas mileage. Minimally optioned for less than $40k. Nice!