How to Inspect and Replace a FSI Cam Follower and HPFP
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2018
- How to inspect and replace a FSI HPFP and Cam Follower on a MK5 GTI. The high pressure fuel pump and cam follower is a common MK5 FSI failure. Checking the cam follower is basically maintenance. Also failure can cause check engine light codes P0087, P1093, P2293. Today I will show you step by step how to DIY the FSI fuel pump and cam follower. Thanks to FCP EURO and Meyle for sponsoring the MK5 Rusto-Mod project.
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This might be one of the common mk5 repairs in history.
Any chance you can do a transmission change video? LoL :-P
Checking and replacing the follower and replacing the timing belt were the first things I did when I bought my 8P S3, just a no brainer and peace of mind 👍
HumbleMechanic did you consider doing the stud conversion? I also had to replace the rubber hose. It had degraded on the inside over time and was causing the car to go into limp mode under load..
I've just fitted this kit to avoid worrying about this potential problem anymore. I'm running a TTE420 will all supporting mods as well:
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Yeah, I bought a 2008 gti not knowing about the follower and now got to Chang my fuel pump and camshaft.
I love the detail you give including the torque specs. Great video.
Thanks so much
“ this one’s pretty broken so it came off nice and easy” I think that’s about the best you can hope for as a Volkswagen mechanic😭
Hahah
AWESOME ! Thank you for saving me $195 from the local Stealership. Very precise with lots of details. Keep those videos coming Dude.
I used your other video to change out my lpfp and the revised control module WITH the coveted heat sink.. (what a concept!)
DAP had the parts for unbelievably cheap. Runs good as new and no more unhappy fuel cutoffs.
The community you guys built here is great, keep up the good work
Thank you so much 💙
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and time with us. I really enjoy these videos you produce.
Fun to watch as always, Charles. Good stuff. 😎
😭😭😭😭 wish I watched this proper the first time, changed my follower years ago and putting the nut on the hard fuel line I stripped the threads and trying to get one is impossible ended up buying a second hand hpfp just for the fitting, never new about or thought about turning the engine to get a flat point on the cam your a legend mate wish you lived next door to me 👍
Thankfully these high pressure fuel systems are not as complex as some others. Key word is maintenance as usual. Charles, you are the man when it comes to these repairs. Thank you.
Would you reccomend these engine long term?
Manuel RVS Yup. Especially the earlier FSI 2.0T in my opinion. We have a 2008 Passat and we just absolutely love that car and I have done just basic maintenance and small issue repairs over the course of its life. I do my own belt changes, metal impeller water pump, reseal vacuum pump, check follower once a while and some upgraded ignition parts and it purrs like a kitten. It’s 11 years old at this point and I am planning on keeping it for at least another 5-7 years because no one even offers a good wagon hardly anymore that is affordable and fun to drive. Perhaps a Mercedes wagon next. And I will never buy a Subaru wagon, sorry Subaru.
Thank you for explaining the lobe cam setting.
Great video as always Charles!
Very detailed and good quality video. I am definitely a subscriber now!
I have a mk5 Jetta FSI 2.0T and i'm about this do my first ever HPFP and cam follower replacement. thanks fot he tips!
How do you turn it to get the flat side? Crank engine over? Great videos I have learned so much from you. Thank yiu
The best explanation and procedure I've seen on doing this job. Bravo.
Thanks so much
AWESOME instructions, Charles,,as ever, Thank you so much for your kind effort,,,please keep posting,,,🙂👍
Its pleasure to watch. Thanks.
Always a fun job to do. I never thought about the follower being a maintenance item but good call.
Yeah it makes sense to just keep an eye on it. Way cheaper to replace the follower than the cam
I don’t trust those followers, they’re a rough bunch. They already know they gonna get inspected. Them and their up to no good cam buddies they ride with.
HumbleMechanic
I don’t have one, but would it help any to polish the weewee out of the face of the (new) follower?
Nice video love the mk5 series
Just replaced mine, it all went smooth and easy! Thanks!
Awesome
Love this Mk5 series. I have a Mk5 gli with 170k miles and I'm about to do most of these replacements soon and I'll be referring to your videos. Also, are you goi g to be doing a timing belt/water pump replacement video? That's the only repair I'm a little worried about doing on my own.
Thanks!
Wow this video is very informative!Thank you!
That exact sensor has failed on my Mk5 GTI in the winter of 2016. After a search on eBay I found out that I had, as mentioned in the video, the old revision, with E, and I ordered the one with K from America, because somehow, no ebay vendors here in Europe had the part. Took 2 weeks to get here, but my engine ran again.
With regards to the question about rotating the engine to get the cam in the right position, next time you do one of these, can you please update the video with a little clip to show exactly how you rotate the engine. Great information, but would be nice to see exactly how you do it!
"19mm socket above the alternator. Always turn clockwise."
Cheers!
how did u do it
You should do a sagging headliner diy
Right lol more like any interior cloth with adhesives
Thanks for posting
Great video thank you.
great video. cool hot wheel collection
Hello, very helpful video. I have a 2007 VW GTI FSI i have a HPFP internals to the FPP and i came across my cam follower having a hole and im having boost cut outs randomly, i am getting the p0087 and p2293 codes as well, pretty sure my thrust senor is bad but also wanted to know what bigger repair you where talking about if the cam follower has a hole.
Nice video, like always. Off the topic question, now when you are not employed in dealership who do you spend time?
Fixing cars on side or just making videos?
Your videos are detailed and very helpful.how did you rotate the cam to the flat?
Thanks mate great video
I just did this like 1k miles ago, I did not have the banjo bolt. I bought my b6 Passat at 93k and replaced the follower at 140k the cam follower really wasn't bad for the mileage on it. I really didn't see it as a maintenance item but now it's gonna be changed at 160k or close to it.
Previous owners had somewhat neglected follower changes on our EOS BPY engine, and there is a new (ish) fuel pump on the engine, but the follower of the same vintage is starting to show some wear and the cam surface shows some wear also. How much wear on the cam fuel pump lobes will fall in the "worn, but acceptable to still operate" zone with follower inspections with each oil change? Based on the pictures of damaged cams I have seen, this appears to be somewhere in the marginally operational (vs obviously fubar) zone.
Love your videos
The only thing missing in this video is "boats and...". Great tutorial.
I have a 2007 VW 2.0 Turbo. I was told the fuel pump tappet cam follower was worn. We were a 200 mile trip, and started hearing a weird whining sound. Also when the oil was drained it was very thin and had metal flakes in it. What do you think? Thank You. Scott.
I seem to have around thrust plug part you mentioned traces of oil and also around the bottom of the fuel pump where the pipes are is the a bad O ring?
Just replaced the HPFP/Cam Follower on my Fahrenheit GTI(Seen you just got one recently, nice 🤘) tonight with the help of this vid. Much appreciated brother! Didnt realize I had to buy a thrust sensor seperately till I got to that point in the video. HPFP was factory original, I can't reuse the original sensor on a newer Pump right? Gotta be an updated sensor?
Charles can I use aftermarket synthetic fluid for my 09G transmission? The OEM fluid is too expensive
Good video, I had the follower and pump codes come up on a 1.6 fsi mk5 golf, bfm engine code, p2293 fuel pressure regulator valve and p000A camshaft postponer bank 1 intake, so I had a hole through the follower and the end of the spring was very worn on the fuel pump,
I replaced with new follower and a second hand pump, but after a test drive I am still getting the same codes and engine it spluttering, any ideas if this means my cam is gone?
I just brought the car and it looks like it had a very new pump on it already but was well worn at the spring, any advice you can offer many thanks!
Great videos, as always. Question, does the cam follower need to be inspected / replaced on a MK6 GTI?
I don't think so, I believe the follower issue was mostly prevalent on the early fsi engines
Hi charles, I need to replace my hpfp as the bottom hard line brass fitting is damaged and I don’t think you buy it separately. The problem is all the hpfps I can find have the newer style bamboo fitting and not the older banjo bolt like mine. Can you swap this part over from the old pump to make it work? I don’t honestly know what to do to get it working again. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Your channel is awesome
Nice video. 👍 Does all FSI engines have this cam follower and how often should it be changed? I have a 2004 Golf 1,6 FSI.
great video ty
Thank u sir very nice video
Woww Exelent Video. 😃👍🚘
So what do you do when you pull out your cam follower and it's a nice hole in it? Besides replacing the cam follower?
How did you rotate the engine to get the lobe flat?
Hey Charles I was wondering what you me t when a bigger repair is necessary is the follower is worn through because mine was and I replaced but I’m still having idle pulsating
Is there anyway to replace the fuel pressure regulator sensor on the pump or does it come as 1 unit?
Thanks for the video, replaced mine but now get code p0010. I can clear it when driving but at start up the code come back
Hi @humbleMechanic have u tried checking your mk7 golf r hpfp? Does our engines have cam follower too? If so please reply thanks love you videos
I replaced mine at 127k miles. It was never replaced before. Cam follower looked really good with very slight wear, that was almost unnoticeable.
WOW that is rare
HumbleMechanic I was really surprised. Maybe because some older lady drove it. Car haven't seen certified service since it had 40k miles. Only service she did was to change oil every 5k miles.
Hi Charles,
Big fan. Here's a question for ya regarding my 08 golf gti mk5 hard start issue.
1. Car is parked indoors. First start in the morning, no problem.
2. When driven and parked under hot sun(hot weather), many cranks before it finally starts. The hotter the weather, the harder to start.
3. After the hard start, driven a little bit and parked for an hour or two, hard start returns.
Do you know what could be the issue? Lpfp had been replaced. Starter relay been replaced. Lpfp primes. It's been frustrating both for me and my neighbourhood mechanic. Your opinions is very much needed. Thank you very much for your time.
Mr humble mechanic, hey I have an mk6 R and did the follower yesterday at 6:00 there's a small slit gap near where the follower seats forwards the left. Is that opening normal? I literally thought my HPFP chunked a piece off of it
thank you very much, you help more thanks
Congratulations on the attention this movie has a good explanation thanks humble
I have the mk5 2.0fsi modle and am experiencing rough idle and misfire i have ordered cam follower kit and new coil pack and igbition wire as all bar one connector taps are broke so maybe weak spark or worn cam follower i feel like a have a slight smell of fuel in oil too ?
after you turned the cam,do you rotate the engine on timing point, or start engine from that point?
Awesome video Charles.
I need to replace the Thrust sensor only as the black little nipple on the sensor broke off. Do I still need to relieve the fuel pressure or is it just a take off and put back on type deal ?
Cheers
Yep, you will still get HP fuel out of the thrust sensor
Is this a common problem on the Audi A4 2.0 BUL engine as well? I read that they changed some parts, like the camlobe, which stopped this problem?
Hey Charles, this is kind of a noob question, but I need to swap the bamboo fitting to the brass banjo fitting, however I am not sure which way is to loosen it. I have already kinda stripped the bamboo fitting and am scared to attempt again. Thanks and hope to hear from you!
That bolt is awful. It’s a standard lefty loosey bolt
So I just had a HPFP put on in a shop that claims German repair. 2007 vw 3.6 4motion awd. New Hitachi fuel pump.
Does it need a new sensor as you did in this video? They say they tested pressure on both sides and it is the same
and that the new pump must be bad? HELP!
Hi my mk7 R is suffering from wheel spin, ive replaced Haldex oil & cleaned filter. bench tested pump and it spins with a 12v feed. is there such thing as a "update" for the haldex? Thanks!
Is FUEL smell in oil normal at CDHB TFSI engine? Should I change this as preventative maintenance? There is no fauly code but fuel smell at oil and high oil consumption. Need your urgent help.
The thrust sensor link is no good. I just bought a 2008 Wolfsburg Jetta and I'd like to replace the cam follower(preventative maintenance). The Jetta has 68,000 miles. Is there a kit with new bolts, HPFP gasket and the follower? Also the thrust thingy. Any help would be great.
Nice video man. Do you know if this will be the same way to do it on 2013 chevy malibu. I meed to do the high pressure fuel pump
That I don’t know. May be similar
I kno this is kinda off topic charles but have you seen the scoda Octavia on the car throttle channel, its the 1.9 diesel
My HPFP doesn't have a schrieder valve on the front, is this a problem? I have a 2005 golf gti
Thank you.
Humble,
I have this same motor and it is clattering like it has a cam chain flopping around in the housing . I have read it is common to make clatter under a few different parts failing. I just watched this video and pulled the follower it looks very clean and well kept I was wondering what else could be making this noise on this type of motor I am not really interested in chasing parts and replacing them if i can find an experienced vet to help in the diagnosis process
Sounds like it's a faulty timing chain tensioner on the back or right side of the engine. The tensioner is known to fail and cause a rattling noise, with catastrophic engine failure if not fixed in time.
Does this apply to 1.6 FSI Golf 5, BLF engine? Many thanks!
And here I thought he was doing a collab with visio racer... Good info contained within nontheless
Great video. Should the cam be in the wrong position, do you turn the crankshaft bolt clockwise with a socket?
Clockwise. Almost every engine rotates clockwise and you should (almost) always turn it clockwise
@@HumbleMechanic the only engine to turn counterclockwise I know so far,is my 1962 cub cadet garden tractor with kohler engine...lol
I have 2 questions: This is the same HPFP of 2010 Audi A5 2.0T Quattro? The torque specs in the audi are the same?
Hi!How do you position the cam?How do you adjust it?You said rotate the engine.just saw that it’s rotating but I don’t know how did you rotate it.Thanks for answering!
Usually by rotating the crankshaft clockwise
Does the fuel regulator sit on top of the pump?
Can that be unscrewed and cleaned or replaced, keeping the old fuel pump?
Love your channel! I've got a 2012 Audi S4 that died three times on my Sunday... Both the center instrument cluster display and the mmi display went black, then a few seconds later the engine went to idle and the dsg went into neutral. The check engine light came on and the car is showing a "P12A4 AUDI Fuel Rail Pump Control Valve Stuck Closed" code. each time I was able to shut the car down and immediately restart the car... Got it home (20 miles) by keeping the revs up above 2k. Any help is appreciated... Looking for ideas as to where to start looking...
Weird. Let me ask my Audi dude
I recently read on the Pelican parts website that you should set cylinder 1 to top dead center in order to do this job. I didn't do it the first time my cam follower was replaced and everything has been fine. Just wondering what your thoughts on this are?
Edit* where are my manners lol. This is a great video by the way, I love watching your videos, they are very informative and well put together, keep up the great work!
I’m not sure about TDI 1. For me as long as the lobe isn’t pointing out like in the thumbnail it’s fine.
This is a bigger issue on the TSI ENGINES. I’ve seen plenty of broken pumps immediately after install
Do you have to bleed the fuel system after doing this?
Hello i have a 2008 gti fsi engine it has the following code P000A camshaft position slow response blank 1. Will a camshaft position sensor fix my issue?
Hello, When appears these codes, what happen with the engine? does not start? Does it lose power? Or rpm? And how is your driving, does it make the acceleration slow? Best regards.
Thanks!
🙏 thank you.
hi can you show me and hear what the sound is from the 1.2tsi cam follower does a good (new one) make a ticking sound? and how much
Is this still current on the part ending in K or is there a newer revision?
How did you rotate the cam so the flat part came out?
Will this pump or low pressure fuel sensor ever cause a P0172 with reduced power and high fuel consumption?
Anyone know where the HPFP is on the naturally aspirated 2.0 FSI engines/if they even have the cam follower HPFP set up shown in the video? Haven't been able to find any information anywhere.
Im confused about one thing, I read that this engine has vvt on the intake but the whole variable timing part/variator is mounted on the exhaust cam. How does that work , am i missing something really obvious?
I have mk5 but mot times it just cuts power. After it cools down I can use it for a day or two without any problems, what can be the main problem to this?
Thank You.......
where are the scrapings coming from exactly ? i heard because of scrapings from this pomp injectors gets damaged... please respond
Hey man. My pump was leaking oil where it joins the engine. I removed it, replaced the cam follower, rubber seal and the 3 bolts, and it keeps leaking. Any suggestions?
I wish the important questions got answered. mine is the metal gasket.
Great video, i have a question if you can help. i have VW 2013 passat cc, i drove it for long time while check oil light is on and i had to change crankshaft, bearing shaft and sort, after the engine is fixed, the check oil light keeps blinking repeatedly, i changed the oil pump, still the same thing, please, what else can i do.
forget to mention that is TSI 2.0 engine
I need help! I have a 07 GTI Fahrenheit. I get sputtering when accelerating hard in a high gear and lower rpms. This happened after I have replaced the spark plugs. I have now replaced the low pressure fuel pump, high pressure, fuel filter and cam follower. I still get the sputtering but is less than before. I didn’t replace the thrust sensor. Is that what I need to do to fix? Please help!!!
So yesterday i got a p0089 code. And later driving home from work i got a p0171 could this be because of the fuel filter/fuel pressure regulator causing these code
My cam follower was worn all the way through on mine. The cam does not look damaged but the fuel pump stud was a little worn. I went ahead and just replaced the follower and it seems to run fine. I didn't have any CELs or issues beforehand and it seems to run fine now. Do you think it actually still needs a new HPFP?
I asked this myself but I installed a new cam follower and works good
I had the same issue after previous owner didn't keep on top of this. 3 years later, can you remember did the car keep running good? Thanks
Does the 2010 TDI's have a HPFP and need the cam follower replaced?
@HumbleMechanic my cam follower was pretty broken, like the side that contacts the cam, was just hole, very little metal left there. You mentioned if that was the case it would be "a much larger repair." Can you specify what you meant by that and point me in the right direction please? Thanks!
If that piece shreds off completely you can damage the camshaft which can in return make the valves in your engine hit the piston which basically means you are fucked until you rebuild
Would you happen to have a Premo Code to use at the Online Store FCP ? Also I'm not sure if it's made for the VW 2.0T FSI engine or not but I see Cam Followers with a roller on the end that meets against the Cam, So maybe less Ware & Tare on the Cam , If I can find that type of Cam Follower for the VW FSI 2.0T would you recommend it ? Part# HITACHI FUP3058