The Anti-Conceptual Mentality - The Writer's Mind Podcast 005
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
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Today I'm looking at an idea called the anti-conceptual mentality. This is an idea popularized by Ayn Rand on an error human beings make in their thinking. I want to take a look at this error in reason and talk about how it can affect our viewpoint on a wide variety of topics.
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These podcasts are great, talking about some stuff other writers never really get into.
Thanks Zane!
I haven't listened yet, but I will. In the meantime, I'm just wondering why episodes 2 and 4 are missing?
Edit: Oh wait, I see the description listing where episode 6 is ... so every evenly numbered episode is only on patreon?
Yes! They're available on the Patreon.
Wow! This is the first time I don't understand your content.
Historicize, don't naturalize. Things aren't just the way they are because it's natural. I think that's one of the greatest lessons of anthropology. There are cultures that would think the things we take for granted are insane, and they have good reasons to do things their way. We shouldn't take that as just "different strokes for different folks" though. That's just taking things for granted in a more open ended way. It's a good reminder that society is designed by people who had specific incentives and biases though.
i could listen him talking for hours :')
Anyone who finds this topic of anti-conceptual mentality interesting may also find Roland Barthes and his "Mythologies" very interesting as well.
"Hey so how do you feel about vegetables?"
"Well you know they're alright because they're healthy even though they don't taste as good as candy."
"So, you hate vegetables."
"..."
This is y our language is so limiting. Instead of having a separate word for 'Christian marriage' and 'legal marriage' we just have 'marriage'. The Greeks had 6 different words for love. We just have love. Our language restricts our capability of communicating on a conversation level so much. That's why I love the idea of communicating through literature. 'Translations' a play by Brian Friel explains what I'm trying to say more than I ever could.
This 'christian marriage' vs 'legal marriage' reminds me of the 'trans women' vs 'women'. Right now, certain groups are trying as hard as they can to regulate language so that there is only 'women', because it is confusion somehow essential to their cause. I think this can be clearly seen when listening to talking points in this particular political "debate" (it's not really a debate in my opinion). I wasn't observing politics when gay marriage was pushed for, but maybe that's what happened with the term 'marriage' too.
Something I struggle with is the fact that I think ideologies like Rand's that promote personal responsibility/individuality are uniquely suited for stories. A story that agrees with that ideology would be about a hero confronting a truth and then changing their mind and fixing everything. I don't agree with Rand or conservatives on that, but it's an engaging narrative. When it comes to more broader systemic issues, I wonder if what stories have to do is try to reframe them into a story of individual responsibility or if there's some other way of presenting systemic issues in a story.
The only story I've seen portray class issues in a really powerful way (without pandering to the idea that one person can change their whole world if they just realize the truth) is Parasite. That movie doesn't really state a solution though. I can imagine lots people coming away from it not knowing what the solution is since the hero doesn't fix everything.
Thanks for this, learned a lot.
Karlyn Borysenko showed us (today's video April 6) one of tribalism's most offensive quote, from Alinsky "He who sacrifices the mass good for his personal conscience has a peculiar conception of ‘personal salvation’; he doesn’t care enough for people to ‘be corrupted’ for them." "The end justifies the means" ???? There are no "first principles"??? Many visitors to this series will enjoy Karlyn's takedown of "critical theory".
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Cancel culture
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Very interesting. Great examples of writings where the focus is to discover anti-conceptual thinking are Plato's dialogues.
Ironically people who are anti-conceptual can’t grasp these ideas.
I would also call these people “label it’s” they label things and walk away. They cannot take a concept, a template an abstract and apply it outside itself. They cannot’get’ analogies. They think they do but an analogy is about what’s similar, even if there are elements that diverge, invariably they will say your analogy is wrong because it’s not an exact parallel. There are no exact parallels in life otherwise they would actually be the same. They don’t WANT to think. They do not want to discover or learn. This is why some people, ahem, constantly use labels when they argue or disagree.
What they do when they are frustrated is block, censor, cancel and demonize.
Agreed.
also makes me think about how it makes total sense that the first time the characters really get to have the first interection with each other they feel so attacked, because the fact that they are so different is an actual attack to their different ideals and worldview, ideals that they will hold on to at first, but that will start to fall apart as they spend time together
C'mon Tyler man! Give us the other episodes! This is such a good series!
haha check out the rest at patreon.com/thewritersmind!
Thank you for another episode! All of your content is fantastic. I really appreciate this call to thoughtfulness especially.
I'm wondering if you'd ever touch on the topic of propaganda and/or/vs. art in an episode?
Human Action and Antifragile side by side... Way to go.
This might explain why is so hard for me to discuss sexuality with older people (usually conservative) and capitalism with younger (usually liberal)
Topics like sexuality and capitalism can definitely fall into concepts that people find it hard to break out of.
Everytime Tyler is on camera I'm even more convinced that he's the right choice for James Marsden's biopic.
hahaha
Love this podcast!
“Are you saying racists are good?” Example of reducing everything to a simple label I.e. “good/bad”.
Exactly. It's important to think through contextual elements and really understand what someone means when they talk about a certain concept.
I've been doing so much intense problem solving the past few days, it was nice just to sit back, clear my mind and have it filled with an interesting voice.
Glad you're enjoying the podcast!
The tricky part of this for me is I wouldn't know what I'm blind to as i would consider it the norm unless it came up in conversation. I like to think i've examined most aspects of my life but if I'm missing anything then im subconsciously blind to it
Such a cute smile 😁
so the whole idea of this podcast episode is to form your own opinion about a concept and look more into the elements of a concept. but wait oh shit! only philosophy readers are going to get it
Ayn Rand is my philosophical mentor so to say. Her book Fountainhead was epic for me.
She definitely has some interesting ideas!
Bro, you need to work on your reading comprehension. This is one example "consumerism you have an idea of what that means"...re-read and re-read what an anti concept is "rationally unusable" no one has an idea of what it means, it's an anti-concept it's worse than means nothing it's an attack on "ideas as such".
Read understanding objectivism. And Rand isn't 'prominent person in objectivism' she is the creator of it. You need to understand this before you make a podcast on it, or interview those that can speak with actual knowledge cus you've not a clue what you are saying.
I don't care what you say. I don't want to hear shit from anyone who likes the work of Ayn Rand. I'm out of here. Have a nice life!