SAMSUNG GALAXY S22 ULTRA vs HUAWEI P50 PRO | 100x Zoom Battle
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- In this video I test the new Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra versus the new Huawei P50 Pro in a moon zoom for their 100x digital zoom capabilities. In addition, I shoot the moon with the Canon EOS R5 and the Canon RF 800mm to get a professional reference image. In the course of the video I also compare the two camera systems of the Samsung S22 Ultra and the Huawei P50 Pro, including the incorporated camera software. Last but not least I also shortly explain the different pixel binning technologies implemented in the two smartphones.
See also here, finally Huawei beats Samsung:
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@12:46 I should have said "100x magnification" instead of "100%".
See also my video "Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra NIGHT Photography Features | Best in Class":
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Content:
00:00 Introducing the gear (Samsung, Huawei, Canon)
02:50 Specifications of the two smartphone camera systems
06:33 Camera and photography software on the two smartphones
08:21 Shooting the moon with the Samsung and Huawei cameras
10:00 Sample images from the moon shooting
13:00 Side-by-side comparison
14:24 Moon shot taken with the Canon EOS R5
15:19 All three moon images side-by-side
16:08 Conclusions and outlook
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Absolutely incredible how phones evolved. I wonder what we will see in the next 5-10 years of advancement in camera technology.
Nothing to be surpriced if we even get 30x optical zoom by 2030..
Yaa u true, talking about tech...i would say i can see many electric scooters in my village too
Star photos
@@roninr8199 30x optical would be unbelievable but I also dont think that we will get that by 2030. Maybe 20x. But with better technology and AI 30x or even 100x digital will look way better than now. Then again, if someone said 8 years ago that we will have phones with 100 megapixel, 100x digital and 10x optical zoom I would have laughed at him.
May be we can see Mars...
Thank you so much for this in depth review!! appreciate it!!
I love the pictures I took of the moon with my S22 Ultra. I wanted so much to do it with the Note 20 Ultra, but it was just not good for it. I am not a photographer at all, but now that I have been trying Expert Raw, I am learning how to take better pictures and editing them later in Lightroom. I never knew the power of 16-bit raw images, this is amazing!
Thanks for the video!
hey, never zoom in into the sun with your s22 ultra.
@@afnannusayr too late! Just kidding 😂
@@geekatari4391 you scared me lol
Have you done the milky way yet? Can get fantastic shots with the right set up
@@alexmwwfcful I want, but I don't have a tripod
fascinating, thanks for showing. looking forward to nightography
Glad you liked it - more to come! And yes, its fascinating how these smartphones deliver their zoom capabilities
HUAWEI P50 pro Uses Snapdragon chip😡😡 Snapdragon suck shit🤮, HUAWEI Cant Use its Kirin Chip😭.
@@mathphotographer Can you do a 20 min video on night 🌙 photography with stars 🌟 between them and overall night photos.
Excellent comparison, thank you!
If you look closely into the Huawei picture, you can see they have filled data in there. You can see the phone was not able to position the fake moon data with the actual picture, like how it has two Tycho craters partially superposed, and then everything else around it is doubled too.
Samsung is really better at AI, it is even hard to fool it. But, side by side with Canon, we can see that it took a slightly wrong phase and libration
13:53 Indeed. Also, for example the left side of the moon is wrong 15:20. That's why a comparison with raw images would make far more sense, unless you want to examine the wrong machine learning details. Samsung uses machine learning in order to guess details, too, but they don't use it as extremely as Huawei here. For example, a Canon Aps-c camera with 35% more sensor pixels per object than the S22 Ultra and same effective lens diameter takes slightly "worse" photos of the moon.
By the way, already the Huawei P30 Pro produced extremely artificial moon photos.
This is one of the reasons why smartphones shouldn't use machine learning for digital zoom. It just leads to wrong and artificial results (not only the moon), if you look properly. Google and Apple cameras suffer from similar problems, when you zoom (my own experience).
@@Quoutub digital zoom is just kind of useless, you can do digital zoom in post-processing, the only reason to digitally zoom in is that it usually also reduces the autofocus area with it, but thats something that generally can also be modified, I would say its best to only zoom as far as it optically goes, and then get the perfect crop in post
I agree, the Huawei images look bloody horrible and amazingly the creator of this video didn't pick up on what I immediately saw. Given the fact that he took AND processed the images I find that to be a pretty poor show, the repetition shown by the Huawei "AI" is horrendous, complete gimmick.
Does "filled in data" meaning post processing, then they all do even NASA. NASA make up pixels for clarity and better visual affect for human brain processing.
Apple and Samsung does it for their preferred visual style. I agree most buyers want to get a pictures that make them look good regardless of picture accuracy. It is a consumer product and as long as consumer has option to get raw image or processed/beautified image then I am good with that. Apple has best implementation of post processing for authentic looking image. Samsung has best AI processing for average consumer desiring better pictures. Huawei still mislead their specifications during product launches so I assume they are more interested in making their pictures match their announced specifications even if they make up with wrong pixel information.
The problem for me is that many Chinese cameras fake it to make 4k pictures out of cheap 2k CCD sensor, or make up many dead pixels using reject camera sensors especially in certain sales regions.
The real problems is consumers can't tell which one has cheap sensor, reject sensor, or good sensor.
UA-camrs will most likely get good sensors. Many US or some EU purchasers will get good sensors but some won't. Most Asian, South American and African customers will get cheap or reject sensors. Same goes for optics, OIS, AP, etc. All manufacturers practice this to some degree but how much they do this depends on their corporate culture at the time like VW diesel gate. Sadly, brand and reputation are important.
Apple has habit of stealing technology (Samsung 4G chip and Qualcomm modem chip designs, even Swiss clock logo theft then suing Samsung for copyright) during design phase. Samsung has history of succumbing to governmental pressure (Chinese requirement to use Chinese batteries) or cover up AP performance by benchmark app script or throttling. Huawei does all of the above and more with straight face. (Stolen technologies from NorTel, Cisco, Samsung, Qualcomm, Apple, etc. And lies about product specifications such as out-folding folding display phone durability)
Apparently Huawei have been caught out for faking their moon shots. Apparently the AI that enhances the photo, merges existing moon textures over the final image. I'm not sure if they do this on the P50, but it seems as though the harder elements to fake, haven't been replicated nearly as clearly here. Hence why the Huawei is seemingly much sharper, yet missing some of the spots and details in other areas. Sharper I might add, despite having significantly less zoom, I don't think the difference between 12-16mp can make up the 90-240mm difference.
the moon looks a bit different from samsung and canon
HUAWEI Have pericope Zoom and Uses AI to make the detail better, Nothong is Fake, we can even use HUAWEIs pro mode and pro mode don't have ai at all.
I appreciate the effort put into the comparison and I'm glad there's someone on UA-cam doing interesting comparisons like this when it comes to smart phone cameras.
However, when showcasing the phones on a desk for the viewer to watch as it's being handled, just take the damn things out of their cases. I know these are daily drivers for you which is why you have matte finish screen protectors and bulky cases, but just take them off; it's incredibly distracting and just seems lazy when you can easily put them back on after the video.
Second, please get a new intro or cut it entirely; it's oddly outdated for what UA-cam is now and feels longer than it is. Keep it short and simple or ditch it; intros are a make or break for some viewers and it was nearly enough for me to click off.
Great video, but the Huawei 1.0sec exposure time seems to destroy 100x zoom pics.
Are you able to set the exposure to the same 1/200 and add a sample to social?
Yes - and thats a bit strange indeed. With a pro camera I go for low ISO and comparably fast shutter speed for a moon shot as the Samsung did, I would never manually go for 1sec as the Huawei did, well observed.
@@everything_huawei_pro4743 花粉为什么要跑外面来丢人现眼啊
@@everything_huawei_pro4743 what u mean huawei isn't using kirin?
Well spotted 📷
Appreciated with your efforts mate. Did like and subscribe. Keep doing good work
Thanks very much, great information
Huwaei is simply super imposing a moon picture sample in the moon photography. The detail difference clearly proves it. I know that because i used huwei P30
Yeah. Once you take one moon photo with P30pro, EVERY other photo will be EXACTLY the same
@@shinx1207 it does not look the same you stupid f
Unfortunately it is because the Huawei usually heavily AI enhanced image of the moon I can't remember who mentioned this but I heard a UA-cam say that it is very heavily enhanced with AI compared to Samsung's ai enhancement edit: surprisingly the s22 is way more detailed
It makes sense, Huawei invest a lot of money in the AI and 5G technology, but can't use them thanks to the Huawei ban since they have to use Qualcomm's chips which might sound like a good thing, but when you spend all your life tuning your Camera, Chips and AI to work together to achieve the best quality (and that's why the P30, Mate 40 and P40 still are in the Top 10 Photography phones) for so long getting rid of one of them could break some things.
@@dkrampage2933 that's why I'm not letting go of my mate 40 pro. Still a beast, sadly us plays dirty again, that's why even though it's bit inconvenient, I'm trying to cut ties on technology that heavily relies on the us tyrant.
@@suckup9681 Yeah, that's a great phone, I think it still in the Top 10, number 7 to be more specific it might not sound impressive, but this is a 2020 phone and it's only 1 point behind the IPhone 13 Pro Max.
China and their phones deserved ban
Just so you know, any picture you take is heavily enhanced by the AI, on any phone.
But why especially the Moon? Because its very simple to train an AI to enhance images of known objects, if they wanted to they could do it with the eiffel tower too, just let the AI enhance millions of pictures of the exact same object and it will know how to deal with it perfectly because it already knows it.
Some people accused the p30 pro of storing high resolution moon pictures and using it to improve the quality of the shots, but no one has ever found anything proving that yet, on the other hand tests proved that it doesnt cheat (for example, printing an edited picture of the moon with missing craters, then shooting that image with the p30 pro to see if it would "fill the missing craters" , it didnt)
Both phones just have insane zoom and AI processing because the moon is a well know object.
Great review👍 it's night and day comparing smartphone and Canon.
I would love yo see you compare the two in astrophotography and/or deep sky with the telephoto lenses.
I managed to take incredible moon pictures with my 30x zoom S21 model, it's crazy how good they are
Same I have the s22+
Same, got the base S22 and i didn't expect them to look that similar to the ultra
Just a note regarding that 108 mpx camera. I don´t think there is any binning done and you can´t get any RAW file from that sensor, it is always only 12 mpx photo in RAW. I tested it and those 108 mpx photos were totally unusable. But having 10x optical zoom is a nice feature, even though it is only 10 mpx. I could get nice details at lower ISO, which I was surprised. But for sure, this can not be compared to any mirroless cameras.
I'm pretty sure it's always binned and just upscaled. There are software mods for the Xiaomi phones that grant true unbinned 48MP output from them, and paired with a special made gcam port they can do stacked exposure 48mp raws. The true 48mp output really takes up a LOT of ram and makes the device chug, which is probably the main reason why it's not done commonly. With it though my 10U outdoes my Fujixt20 annoyingly ha.
The Winning Point is in the Details! Thank You So Much for the Smartphone Camera against the PRO Canon Digital Camera comparison!
Plz do a detailed review on expert raw app of S22 ultra,i wonder how is the dynamic range iso performance of the main cameras as well as the other cameras
Great video I'm gunna try my Google Pixel 6 Pro tonight
Great video. I still have my Huawei P30 pro and was blown away by the moon photos I've taken with that 2yrs ago so I can only imagine how good the newest phones are
AI detailing.
@@YonOtto I read someone did try to test that AI detailing theory. Using a high-res photo of moon taken using a telescope, he digitally removed some of the major craters. Just only a few craters so that the photo was still recognizably a moon.
He then put that image on a high-res display and reshot it using P40 Pro from a distance. Basically to ensure correct moon size from that distance. The result: those craters were still missing; proving that the moon details were not artificially added by the AI.
But aren't photos from P30 pro fake? :D
Schöner Vergleich. Das Bild der Canon ist der Wahnsinn 😍 So toll die Kamera des S22 Ultras auch ist, im Nachtmodus bei sehr schwach beleuchteter Straße hat mein altes S20 Plus was die Farbwiedergabe angeht die Nase vorn, zumindest wenn man, wie fast jeder, alles dem Smartphone überlässt. Beim S22 Ultra habe ich sehr unschöne gelbe Flecken im gesamten Bild.
2010 : hey my phone has a camera..
2050 : hey my phone has a james webb telescope.
Great video bro, makes it harder to choose which phone lol
Great video! Very good job! I own the S22 Ultra and the camera is just amazing. I am getting stunning photos, even in low light. And so far, I have only been using auto mode. The Samsung S22 Ultra's camera system is off-the-charts good. I think only the Pixel 6 comes close to it. The iPhone 13 Pro Max has slightly better videos in dark scenes in some cases but the S22 Ultra matches it or beats it in video mode in a lot of scenes. The Chinese phones have problems with getting their colors accurate and other key issues.
one thing that I see in chinese made phone, its a sprint , after a year problems started to crop up, both software and hardware
@@shaf3006 A LOT of reviewers state that there are problems with the Chinese phones. You are not alone.
@@shaf3006 I am a Huawei user. My experience with this phone is not bad. But, Huawei force us to buy their new phone by making the OS heavy for the old phones. I am struggling while gaming after updating to Harmony OS. They do it intentionally to force us to buy new phone. But, it much great in normal works.
What has this got to do with China? Issues can come from anywhere, regardless of the country.
@@kamranki Hmmm, a very stupid question. My comment dealt with the QUALITY of Chinese phones in comparison with the flagship American phones. Work on those 8th grade reading comprehension skills.
Hi, nice video. 😊 But I would be more interested to see what the phones are capable of when taking a picture of the moon by its own zoom mode, without all the post processing, which you are doing later. Then we compare them without being touched additionally.
You can't always believe in unverified, individual UA-camrs.
@@Megalogy you cant always believe verified eighter.
The photos when taken by its own zoom mode are artificially modified by "intelligence" (the phone puts a layer of the moon on top to make it more "realistic")
@@JerrydeWit*either
@@mate5571 not my first language. How many do you speak?
Wow. Extremely impressive shots eith smart opine cameras. They've really come a ling way.
BUT when you compare them to the Canon, WOW. Just goes to show no matter how much they imomprove, nothing beats a dedicated camera set up.
Would you please explain how you did the post processing on the smartphones? Thanks.
iPhone : haha what's zoom ?? I'm still 5 years behind on the dark ages, we only know 10x zoom lol
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i saw in a video that the X80 pro is prety similir to huawei and samsung in shoting the moon..
good video!
I love your videos! Great comparison
Many thanks Pablo, much appreciated
Thanks for the video. What matte screen protector are you using
thank you
The S22 ultra definitely has better detail in it's shot when compared to the Huawei P50. For most people, the shots from these 2 phones are proper astronomy telescope level..
s22 has special filter that makes the moon appear on camera in great detail. idk about the huawei but probably the same
But they all fake it. They recognize the moon and put the texture on it
@@ifact1961 only huawei does
@@woro. samsung does too
@@big_krzyz6697 no they dont lmao
14:10 Have your heard about Huawei photoshoping super moon photos to get fake details on there? That's probably why it lost the complex crater shadows around the edges of the moon but still having incredible detailed texture in the middle with only using a 3.5x optical zoom camera.
For some reason you'll get a random dark pic of the moon on the S22 Ultra. So I make sure I take multiple pics to get the brightest one
amazing video !!! can i know whats the brand of the cover of the s22 ultra please
Looks like Huawei pasted a clear image on a blurry photos of the moon but struggle that we can still see the blurry part..i confused how
Nice video👌.
For me, I like Samsung S22 ultra based on your demo. Thank you.
I’m curious to know on what camera you are capturing this video.
Wow the Details on the Samsung is impreaive
I think I prefer the pre processed image on huawei, soft and luminous enveloped by black
When will you upload video on s22 ultra camera nightography as you said in this video...
Where will i get those s22 ultra covers you have on?
P40 Pro Plus is still amazing for me
10x Optical zoom, i think it is better than the p50 pro
The p40 pro plus really has everything, p50 is a step backwards. It's got 3x zoom camera and a 10x one, it basically covers everything from close, medium and far distance. Not to mention the tof sensor on the front, which is rare these days.
I think in the interest of better images for any mobile phone there is always a telescope mount. Then you can use the best lens and the zoom of the telescope. Not very portable but it's an option.
Great video! Thanks for sharing! Btw, it’s HUA WEI not HUA WAI.
man dont we all love the "ES TWENTY TOO OLTRA".
*Huawaii
What is the model of the protection case for the S22?
It clearly shows that Samsung is the zoom king. It even close to the Canon image because of the color and the craters that were visible in the bottom right area.
Ya, he should refocus again on the samsung. Because mine is just as bright and not dark
That canon result are impresif
impressive the Huawei results, considering is only a 3x optical the 64mp helps it a lot.
It using texture
@@krzysztopol7901 yeah i can see that. look at the top crater, its stretched. either way. its pretty good.
True
dude that Cannon is fucking amazing lol
With enough Multi Shot Noise Reduction you should be able to match almost any amount of detail with a smartphone camera. The only limitation from here on is processing power.
I don't know why but i think that Huawei is really using already stores moon images because in the end if you compare the 3 cameras you can see that the structure of craters is same in both canon and Samsung but its different in huawei
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The moon shots I get with my Nikon P1000 is insane. Destroys all of these haha. But the moon shots I get with my S22 ultra is mind blowing from a cell phone!
Does the quality change depending on the subject? Those moons may be AI enhanced, processing power is cheap today but good optics still cost.
Not AI enhanced. It's "replaced" moon by AI. Totally fake one.
Can you upload the pictures taken from these devices
Are you from germany my friend? Cause your pronunciation is on point
The moon surface looks completely different on Huawei compared to the Samsung and Canon 🤔
Because he only exposed the Huawei to 1 second but the Samsung had 1.2 seconds so it made for a better picture 0 .2 is big factor in the picture out come.
@@markell265 with different I don't mean, better or worse, I mean they look completely different not in term of quality and details but the surface of the moon the texture and basically the moon overall look different, It's like if it's a different moon, or how to put it! Basically all I'm wondering is that if they're using some sort of texture layout over the moon surface, like how iphone uses a blue color to the sly if it's blown in highlights
I'm testing Samsung galaxy S22 ultra and I'm very impressed so far
Love mine
They're not pictures from the camera. They overlay a picture of the moon in the software since the same side of the moon faces earth
I used to travel with a nikon d5100 and a few lenses. Since I got my huawei p30 pro I really have no use for my DSLR. I can get 95% of the photos I want with my cellphone which is pretty incredible.
You did not check one thing - if any samsung or huawei is adding their moon textures to image. Simply buy cheap white glowing ball, hang it high somewhere outside and take picture with both phones. Can you do that?
Still having a Huawei P30 pro I find the possibility of photographing the moon a simple fun curiosity, the optics of smartphones do not have the same resolving power as those mounted on SLR or mirrorless, certainly compared to a few years ago it was inconceivable to photograph the moon with a mobile phone but for me it remains a little useful possibility, I would prefer an improvement of the starry sky photos with a more precise focus. Thank you for this test 😊
I also own a P30 Pro and imagine last November in Venice I was taking a photo of the moon while sitting outside for a drink, and a woman says: wooow, did you just take that picture with your phone? 😁 ...then I showed my friend the video of the moon recorded with a Nikon Coolpix P1000 superzoom and the same woman: hey, is it your phone again? 😂 Unfortunately not, I said.. ahahaha
@@delpinsky I had the P900 and even that wasn't joking 😁
Ha! Clearly the Coolpix is a much more capable and serious tool 😉
The Huawei P30 pro was a great phone. The google ban did not bring me to buy an iPhone with limited possibilities.
@@philippbretzler7687 I abandoned the idea of buying another Huawei not for the lack of google services but for problems with my P30PRO and focusing endlessly, I am not going to spend important figures with the fear of buying a new model with the same defect, for me the future of cameraphones is VIVO 😉
First of all 100x zoom: you would able to see the far reaches of the universe LOL
Ooltraa👌😉
Did the same thing with my p30 pro and got the same result. 👍🏾✅✅✅
Gutes Video, aber arbeite vielleicht ein bisschen an deiner Aussprache :)! Man hört den deutschen Akzent nämlich echt stark 😆 (zum Beispiel spricht man millimeter wie „millimieter“ aus)! Nicht böse gemeint, ansonsten passt alles 😊!
this was good.
Good 👍
while huawei is color accurate in term of the correct hue samsung captures more details to the moon but the blue filter missed the photo but can be fixed with camera modes on the phone
I like the cannon phone picture the best. Blows the other two phones pictures away.
Qual a case do s22 ultra?
Huawei also uses a double yellow pixel in their sensors and it always shows a yellow tint in their colour processing when you look at them side by side . With the extra yellow pixel they can get a brighter looking picture but side by side it's exposed.
Its called the "Wah Why P50 PRO"
This is a GREAT video. This is the reason that I have a Samsung phone. I have stayed with them because of this feature. Would you please post your Canon moonshot settings. You really have the sharpness dialed in, and I would like to reproduce the results on my Samsung NX1. Thanks.
Huawei is known to have a picture of the moon stored in the phone (forgot the model) as a reference to improve the quality of the moonshots. The trick was since exposed and Huawei admitted to the "use of AI " in the pic.
That is NOT true - that was some made up bs that become a bit of an urban legend.
Nice armor case.
Hope so Samsung will introduce it's Samsung DSLR like others 🥲
10 year later, people could take Saturn photo without professional equipment.
What is the best phone for photography and videography??
Xiaomi 12S Ultra or new iPhone 14 Pro Max :) Both are newer than the phones in the video. Otherwise the Samsung and Huawei in the video are excellent too
Me agrada mucho las fotos del P50 Pro
My p50 pro doesn't have moon mode. Why?
I suspect all those phones more or less replace the picture with a template moon picture when detected a moon under that zoom... A matter of who makes it look more natural and more detailed simultaneously... Idk, I own a Samsung, so I hope I'm wrong.
Samsung did not. Huawei do.
will Samsung make update for battery issue？
yg mana terbaik bg?
Is your S22 ultra cover available on Amazon?
Yes, Supcase Unicorn Beetle Pro.
du hast so ein deutschen Akzent haha xD hab ich recht? also kenne dich noch nicht das erste mal auf dein Kanal aber das klingt sehr Deutsch für mich :)
Haha,
Ja er klingt so sehr deutsch xD
I love the way this man keep saying waway
Real action starts from 8:21
I use Urban Armor Gear covers too, for years, they are rock solid !!
Couldn't agree more, dropping the phone in these cases is harmless, they protect the phone very well and they are also nicely designed, I love the case!
HUAWEI P50 pro Uses Snapdragon chip😡😡 Snapdragon suck shit🤮, HUAWEI Cant Use its Kirin Chip😭.
@@everything_huawei_pro4743 You must have sorry life based on this reaction on every comment !!
Brilliant video. Would like to know how it would stack up against a Mi 11 ultra
Mi 11 Ultra once enhanced with Lightroom or equivalent did the job as well as the S22... One year ago!!! 👌👌👌
@@maravilha00 I have a Mi 11 ultra and the pictures I click are alright though at times they are a bit too soft.
@@necromancexiii as I wrote : enhance with Lightroom
Do they use AI to enhance or even take the image ?
If so, it might ruin the comparison, no?
I got that same case for my s22.
Whats the fun part of editing an AI-applied filter on the moon that barely looks like the moon if you wouldve took it without ai on?:)
my p50 pro is showing blurry after 10x can you please tell me your settings
Hola amigo, buen contenido!!! Pero el huawei no incorpora cámaras leica, tampoco está desarrollada por leica, lo único que hace leica es inspeccionar esa cámara y si pasa ciertos parámetros le hacen el autógrafo. Gracias saludos
Amazing phone with amazing camera
maybe we can see the stars ⭐✨ closely by zooming 🤣