***** The power is not everything. I think Kawasaki H2 H2R also will be a legend as supercharged bike on the market. But RC213V-S is not same category. It's extremely close MotoGP bike on the market. Both bikes are great. Rich people should buy them.
All the hate... They can't afford it so they throw a tantrum by posting hate comments lol. This bike weren't meant for you, so shut up. This bike already sold out like a month ago, so shut up.
What a Beautiful Bike. But lotta negative comments here, seemingly mostly from Brits. The haters are like kids who "poop" on something simply because they cannot have it. I once read a great article - a Ferrari Enzo review in a British "CAR" magazine that was most illuminating about the difference in attitudes between US and UK: when a UK guy sees a Ferrari, they curse the driver; while in US, people give them thumbs up - because in the US, people still genuinely believe in hard work and that given a bit of luck, they can accomplish a lot - and will be able to afford such things one day themselves. So to my UK colleagues - yes this bike is expensive, but it does worth the price much more than an Ariel, or a reincarnated Brough, or a stupid Ecosse, as every bolt and nut in Honda is fully custom-made and hand-assembled (think - "blueprinted"), hand-adjusted - and yes, it does make it special. Forget about the horse-power, as it is now known that this engine can do more than 230bhp, and those who can afford the bike might bring it up quietly to a proper state of tuning anyways... Yes, you cannot do so with an R1, or 1299, or RSV... As for hating on this bike - only kids or delinquents hate on something because they cannot afford it. Also, only kids or delinquents think that what they own is the absolute best - simply because they own it... Cheers!
Wrong just wrong mate. I always thumbs up Ferrari's ........ this bikes a bit overshadowed now by the new BMW HP4 Race though. now there is an insane bike. cheap as well at £68'000
Eheh dude I'm actually doing it but if I could afford a bike for that price it would mean I'd be so rich I could spend them way better...I'd probably get a Desmo for that price, prepare it for the track and get some spare motocross and street bikes with the rest of the money :)
***** Well that way you'd still be a failure, success isn't just money, success is money + a life + good time management. When you have money and time then you have succeeded.
The only manufacture worth looking at, "Honda" by far the best sounding, looking, machine out there, only the best riders will appreciate this bike, fastest riders too, not MCN....... live the dream............ as other bikes give you nightmares.....
If you want a ridiculously expensive bike that feels very unique and racey, get a Suter MMX-500. That's 195hp from a 576cc TWO-STROKE V4, moving just 127kg (280lbs). There's a bike that will genuinely kick an S100RR's teeth in.
JETZcorp man i'm dying to see that bike at the isle of man TT!! cant imagine what the power to weight ratio would feel like riding it!! my mom scooter weighs more that that monster
I've had plenty of Honda's back when. They were great bikes and well priced. BUT Honda always seemed to dabble with "specials " like the CB 1100 R. It cost a lot more than the Katana 1100 but couldn't keep up with it. You had to buy the megabuck "race kit" to make it go. Then there was the VF 1000 R..deja vous ?
Albeit they are a rare find, I've seen 2014 Kawasaki Moto GP bikes for sale for $54,000. Honda wanted to make a motorcycle that is more of a status symbol than a performance bike.
CORRECTION: it is put together (assembled) by one person and and fair amount of that is systems already pieced together, like engine fork tubes, brake calipers.
In typical Honda fashion they bring something that looks like it should be a race car I.e. nsx(old version) everyone in the fan base thinks it's a race car(type r)*new excluded they did it right] or bike repsol 1000 rc45 rc30 vfr 750 but then it falls short of the glory in so many different areas that it begs the question "why even bother?"
IMO, Honda has good strategy btw, they sell this expensive bike, and the money they get is to improve the GP bike. maybe it's answer the question why Marquez still using 2014 chassis for his bike caused of michelin tire and magnetti mareli ECU in 2016 season. Qatar few days ago Lorenzo lead 1 or 2 seconds from Marc.
With choice I would have either the Ducati Superleggera or the BMW HP4 race over this any day. In fact you could buy them both for the same price as this Honda.. and get change for petrol!
why ppl keep moaning about the price? overpriced, regular bike can beat it, blablabla.. imo for motogp replica and limited bike, its a bargain compared to a ridiculus red square painting that sold for 105million..
Interesting thing is, they said exactly the same thing about the current R1 and R1M. Until more and more people started testing it their opinions changed.
Honda RC213V-S is so expensive because it has been derived from the MotoGP version of the bike names RC213V. The track version and the road legal version only has certain differences, which includes the rear view mirrors, side stand, front headlight and the different seat for riding. The power has been limited electronically, which means that the same engine has been used in the road legal version also. Its ultra light weight design, which is 170 kg only is all due to its light carbon fiber parts and skipping the unnecessary parts for riding. The bike has a very powerful engine capable for producing 250+ BHP in its fully functional form, making it a really expensive ride. It also uses the parts manufactured by top performance brands for its brakes, tires and other components.
+The SherminatoRR So what you are saying is that they actually charge 12000 Euros for lifting the electronic limiter, fitting an exhaust, and adding new mirrors and headlight? :O I really love Honda, but this bike is nuts in the bad way. Had it been priced similarly to the likes of R1 and Panigale then it would have been incredible
I have an RC 45 and enjoy the ride ...and especially the sound....But this RC213V is a bit of a mystery to me...mainly where do you ride it ?......when you fit the power up kit you will never pass any of the riduculous noise limits on UK tracks....and I take it you also lose the headlights for the air intake....so no Road riding with the kit fitted either ?.... So leave it road legal and have the power of a Ten Grand GSXR 1000 ?... I appreciate the engineering....but what do you do with it ?
+moriwaki1105 Put it on the track. Can't complain about legality when in essence you have an F1 car for the streets. Throw on the race ECU and run it on the street if you want. Or take it to the track and run it. Point is you have actual GP tech and not watered down overpriced garbage that a manufacturer claims is a GP bike.
Honda are smoking some strong stuff if they think people are going to spend $200k on a "road bike". What am I saying, they'll sell every one they can make. Rich people have to spend their money on SOMEthing...
+chiahao86 Don't make sense to me. Bike that damn expensive should come equipped with a sports kit for FREE. SMH.. AND just like a honda, no power compared to other bikes.
+vidurc I never said ANYTHING about a bike winning races because of power so don't know what you're rambling on about. I mentioned power because it was in reference to the COST of the bike to a consumer and the fact that the liter bikes available to the public are kicking honda's ass on the track and street as well. The honda does have balance but so does the new R1 as well as the zx10. Go figure
+vidurc Honda making a better street bike than any other machine is purely subjective. But let's see. The CBR600 is not leading the middleweight group in anything street or track. The same can be said about the CBR1K. If you don't believe me just inquire amongst fellow riders or look at all the reviews. Last time honda won bike of the year was way back in 08 b4 the crossplane R1 was introduced the next year. Honda is a solidly built bike but its not above any other bike except maybe the gsrx since Suzuki has been kinda laggin behind just as long as honda has.
For that kind of money I want both bikes in one with a switch on the handle bars that let me flick between track and road mode. Diminishing returns at that kind of money I tell ya.
+Nicholas King and you both know that which one is overpriced and would get the the beating in WSBK. 12K for the exhaust system? what for? lol Desmosedici RR is by miles a better bike in both performance and looks. I'd pick Desmosedici RR even if i had a million euros in my bank account.
Sam Rad They have to pass emissions or they will never be road legal, Kneeves from mcn said the bike was much better than the bsb sbk bikes and even better than the 08 gp bike he had ridden, he certainly knows a lot more about bikes than me and you.
200k is unrealistic, a rare and expensive bike like this on the track they are stepping away from great price to performance value bikes a renowned for, might as well get mclaren 650s but if you can afford it by all means have fun
did they look at the front of the race bike and think "oh I can just stick a headlight in that air intake, and because its a rc213 street bike nobody will mention how shit that looks"
+Slacin' Ace Not attacking. It's just general EPA restrictions. Honda hasn't homologated the bike for this market. All they've done is taken the race bike and put lights on it. No tuning to lean out the motor or any of that bullshit. In other words its a proper race bike that they've put on the street. And they're giving buyers the ability to open it's power up without any restrictive exhaust.
Honda have always done the same with their race replicas like RC30 & RC45 which were also pitifully underpowered in road going form and need extra parts to get up to standard.
+Trakker Um what? If you ever when knee down you'd understand power isn't what makes you fast, control and responsiveness does. If you've ever ridden and 1990 RC30 or 1986 RC45, they are faster than current crop of race prepped 600cc supersports on the track. They are quicker to turn have a more linear torque curve and outclass most modern sport bikes. Only an idiot would talk about raw hp figures like it's some kind of pissing contest. Get a clue.
Trakker lol if you make a claim like that at least check someone's profile so you don't sound like an idiot. I've been racing professionlly for long enough to know a thing or two. You have a lot to learn.
vidurc Well your comment very much didn't sound like that because the low amount of power as stock compared to the competition was always seen as an issue even back then. And all i saw on your profile was a possible ricer getting your information from Wikipedia.
Trakker if you actually ride and race you'd realize power doesn't do shit when it can't hit the road. Hell anyone who complains about power are mediocre riders.
This RC213V-S will be a legend in future. Rich man, buy it now!!!!!!!
***** The power is not everything. I think Kawasaki H2 H2R also will be a legend as supercharged bike on the market. But RC213V-S is not same category. It's extremely close MotoGP bike on the market. Both bikes are great. Rich people should buy them.
@al - Masih there are no kawasaki in motogp for along time, what are talking about lol.
All the hate...
They can't afford it so they throw a tantrum by posting hate comments lol.
This bike weren't meant for you, so shut up.
This bike already sold out like a month ago, so shut up.
+sigiet arieyanto Well said, This machine is more track specialied and rarer than the NR-750..
yeah! ...but...no...but...yeah! ...but..no....but....yeah! ...so shut up!
What a Beautiful Bike. But lotta negative comments here, seemingly mostly from Brits. The haters are like kids who "poop" on something simply because they cannot have it. I once read a great article - a Ferrari Enzo review in a British "CAR" magazine that was most illuminating about the difference in attitudes between US and UK: when a UK guy sees a Ferrari, they curse the driver; while in US, people give them thumbs up - because in the US, people still genuinely believe in hard work and that given a bit of luck, they can accomplish a lot - and will be able to afford such things one day themselves.
So to my UK colleagues - yes this bike is expensive, but it does worth the price much more than an Ariel, or a reincarnated Brough, or a stupid Ecosse, as every bolt and nut in Honda is fully custom-made and hand-assembled (think - "blueprinted"), hand-adjusted - and yes, it does make it special. Forget about the horse-power, as it is now known that this engine can do more than 230bhp, and those who can afford the bike might bring it up quietly to a proper state of tuning anyways... Yes, you cannot do so with an R1, or 1299, or RSV... As for hating on this bike - only kids or delinquents hate on something because they cannot afford it. Also, only kids or delinquents think that what they own is the absolute best - simply because they own it... Cheers!
Wrong just wrong mate. I always thumbs up Ferrari's ........ this bikes a bit overshadowed now by the new BMW HP4 Race though. now there is an insane bike. cheap as well at £68'000
I agree bro. That is the typical brit attitude
Knobhead
This bike is GORGEOUS, why am I poor? :(
+AndreCorner Because you're not working towards your dreams.
Eheh dude I'm actually doing it but if I could afford a bike for that price it would mean I'd be so rich I could spend them way better...I'd probably get a Desmo for that price, prepare it for the track and get some spare motocross and street bikes with the rest of the money :)
*****
Well that way you'd still be a failure, success isn't just money, success is money + a life + good time management. When you have money and time then you have succeeded.
.cm c.c
You're not poor man. You're richer than you think. We just don't have a lot of dollars sitting around.
What I really want to see is a reproduction of the RC211V ... The sound of the V5 is phenomenal
I would love to own one of these, especially with the full race kit installed. IF I had that kind of money it would be a "Must have"!
Japanese motorcycle engineers are like mad scientists
is this a good first bike?
Absolutely! A great first and last bike you can’t beat that kind of value
The best, I recommend it. Such a manageable bike to ride and a good price
The only manufacture worth looking at, "Honda" by far the best sounding, looking, machine out there, only the best riders will appreciate this bike, fastest riders too, not MCN....... live the dream............ as other bikes give you nightmares.....
Man... that sound is awesome!
bike is a beauty, would love to get my hands on... or in one lol
Ohhhh that's a killer machine
... Wish to buy one in future 😍😍😍
i wish i was a rich man
At 12 seconds ... fine jewels in an exquisite case
Gorgeous... absolutely gorgeous.
Just to pilot this machine would be a dream.
BEAUTIFUL BIKE
Exciting bike and video! Nice work!
...and when you are in trust, it s really , fantastic
Ive watched so many of your videos . I didnt realise i wasnt subscribed . Huh .. i am now ..
If you want a ridiculously expensive bike that feels very unique and racey, get a Suter MMX-500. That's 195hp from a 576cc TWO-STROKE V4, moving just 127kg (280lbs). There's a bike that will genuinely kick an S100RR's teeth in.
JETZcorp man i'm dying to see that bike at the isle of man TT!! cant imagine what the power to weight ratio would feel like riding it!! my mom scooter weighs more that that monster
So you're then bikeless, on an assault charge and in jail getting butt raped. Way to go for the trifecta man.. way to go.
is it worth the 100k over the 1299 superleggera or the HP4 Race?
Would love to even see one for real.
I've had plenty of Honda's back when. They were great bikes and well priced. BUT Honda always seemed to dabble with "specials " like the CB 1100 R. It cost a lot more than the Katana 1100 but couldn't keep up with it. You had to buy the megabuck "race kit" to make it go. Then there was the VF 1000 R..deja vous ?
*rides to honda*..... *sees price* ......*rides to Yamaha* *buys R1M*
Haha! Well said brotha, well said.
+SPIDER MANN maybe even have both in my garage
Keegan Govender right
How much are one of these?
@@jponz85 188000 euros
Roughly 220000 dollars
Albeit they are a rare find, I've seen 2014 Kawasaki Moto GP bikes for sale for $54,000. Honda wanted to make a motorcycle that is more of a status symbol than a performance bike.
For the price of a Corvette, you get the ultimate track bike.
Hi I am new rider! This is good first bike?
Lol nice one
😅
I will make that paint job on my 2008 fireblade and get it anyway, 190 hp 170 kg is almost as that specs 215hp 160 kg
CORRECTION: it is put together (assembled) by one person and and fair amount of that is systems already pieced together, like engine fork tubes, brake calipers.
Maybe I'll get me one. Two, come to think of it. One stock, one fitted with the sports kit.
0:55 Guy got a face full of exhaust lol
Its doesnt make 219 hp and it cost too much!!! Im a spec sheet warrior and Im angrrrryyy!
Thebike is made by 1 person over 2 or 3 dsys? Do you not mean assembled?
In typical Honda fashion they bring something that looks like it should be a race car I.e. nsx(old version) everyone in the fan base thinks it's a race car(type r)*new excluded they did it right] or bike repsol 1000 rc45 rc30 vfr 750 but then it falls short of the glory in so many different areas that it begs the question "why even bother?"
The MV Agusta F4 RC has like 210-215 hp, destroys the Honda in looks and sound, and costs 1/4th the price. MV F4 RC is king in my books.
agreed but this is Motogp Bike dude .. you have some money and same feel MOTOGP ride. you look different totally to ride in the town with this bitch
but the Honda weighs a lot less, MV killed off that line because it was so outdated
on my wish list
So want one. Just not the tickets I'd be sure to be getting everyday.
IMO, Honda has good strategy btw, they sell this expensive bike, and the money they get is to improve the GP bike. maybe it's answer the question why Marquez still using 2014 chassis for his bike caused of michelin tire and magnetti mareli ECU in 2016 season. Qatar few days ago Lorenzo lead 1 or 2 seconds from Marc.
How is this compared to Ducati's Desmosidici?
Thinking about this but in the other hand I'm looking for the current honda MotoGP motorcycle which is currently at the end of the rate
Gorgeous bike for sure , what part is that spinning at 47s into the vid?
dry clutch
Honda rules and that's all you need to know!
Six years later: this is still the ultimate Honda. Ducati may have gotten close with the V4 Superleggera.
That Killswitch is mass produced lol
awesome bike. Does anyone know if this bike is giong to wsbk ??
Was the intro editing in reference to the film Le Mans?
With choice I would have either the Ducati Superleggera or the BMW HP4 race over this any day. In fact you could buy them both for the same price as this Honda.. and get change for petrol!
Aren't the controls the same as the ones on a CBR600RR?
+Death666wish Had a second look, doesn't look like it, I actually just read that from the comments somewhere else before these reviews.
is that the same digital gauge cluster as the new R1 and Panigale?
Just imagine the price of insurance on this thing!
can anyone explain me whats that spinning thing at 0:46?
thanks
That's the clutch, matey. Neevesy
+neevesybikes but shouldnt it be lubrificated with oil? i dont understand much about engines
***** o i see, thanks
Does anyone know of a RVF 1000 actual release date?
assolutamente spettacolare....e unica.....
how much hp does the road bike have?
wait is that the dry clutch?
why ppl keep moaning about the price? overpriced, regular bike can beat it, blablabla.. imo for motogp replica and limited bike, its a bargain compared to a ridiculus red square painting that sold for 105million..
Interesting thing is, they said exactly the same thing about the current R1 and R1M. Until more and more people started testing it their opinions changed.
I'll have my R1 any day.. Maybe when I become an international drug lord I'll buy one of these
Lmao
I'm speelbound !
Honda RC213V-S is so expensive because it has been derived from the MotoGP version of the bike names RC213V. The track version and the road legal version only has certain differences, which includes the rear view mirrors, side stand, front headlight and the different seat for riding. The power has been limited electronically, which means that the same engine has been used in the road legal version also. Its ultra light weight design, which is 170 kg only is all due to its light carbon fiber parts and skipping the unnecessary parts for riding. The bike has a very powerful engine capable for producing 250+ BHP in its fully functional form, making it a really expensive ride. It also uses the parts manufactured by top performance brands for its brakes, tires and other components.
+The SherminatoRR So what you are saying is that they actually charge 12000 Euros for lifting the electronic limiter, fitting an exhaust, and adding new mirrors and headlight? :O I really love Honda, but this bike is nuts in the bad way. Had it been priced similarly to the likes of R1 and Panigale then it would have been incredible
it is way overpriced, i know, id so much rather the new aprilia rsv r-fw misano, better upgrades, more power and less expensive
What tires would you recommend ?
Kirkland
So how much faster is this as compared to a BMW or Ducati Panigale
Lol! For $184,000 you could get an 3 H2Rs (which are still better than this for 1/4th of the price) and you could get a brand new mustang.
+BUllETpR00f782 You're too poor. Why are you even bothering to comment. The guys that buy this already have an H2R.
How could you dislike that?
+Josh Collins Those who can't afford it.
+Wi Co So only 11 people can't afford it?
Isaac Rochester I never said the those who disliked were only the ones who couldn't afford it. That is a leading question fallacy BTW.
I have an RC 45 and enjoy the ride ...and especially the sound....But this RC213V is a bit of a mystery to me...mainly where do you ride it ?......when you fit the power up kit you will never pass any of the riduculous noise limits on UK tracks....and I take it you also lose the headlights for the air intake....so no Road riding with the kit fitted either ?....
So leave it road legal and have the power of a Ten Grand GSXR 1000 ?...
I appreciate the engineering....but what do you do with it ?
+moriwaki1105 Put it on the track. Can't complain about legality when in essence you have an F1 car for the streets. Throw on the race ECU and run it on the street if you want. Or take it to the track and run it. Point is you have actual GP tech and not watered down overpriced garbage that a manufacturer claims is a GP bike.
this bike looks gorgeous than cbr 1000rr.
Can someone tell me why they're being sold?
rich people need to spend money on something
Honda are smoking some strong stuff if they think people are going to spend $200k on a "road bike".
What am I saying, they'll sell every one they can make. Rich people have to spend their money on SOMEthing...
Crunge92 so whats your point?
they all sold the 213 units before they made the bike.
is this bike street legal? is this the cbr600 or what? i cant see this on a local store
sports kit on top of a bike already price at 188k euro
+chiahao86 Don't make sense to me. Bike that damn expensive should come equipped with a sports kit for FREE. SMH.. AND just like a honda, no power compared to other bikes.
+bilal0072003 Power doesn't make a bike win races. Balance does.
+vidurc I never said ANYTHING about a bike winning races because of power so don't know what you're rambling on about. I mentioned power because it was in reference to the COST of the bike to a consumer and the fact that the liter bikes available to the public are kicking honda's ass on the track and street as well. The honda does have balance but so does the new R1 as well as the zx10. Go figure
bilal0072003 2 sentences doesn't equate to a ramble. The Honda still makes a better street bike than any of those other machines. Go figure.
+vidurc Honda making a better street bike than any other machine is purely subjective. But let's see. The CBR600 is not leading the middleweight group in anything street or track. The same can be said about the CBR1K. If you don't believe me just inquire amongst fellow riders or look at all the reviews. Last time honda won bike of the year was way back in 08 b4 the crossplane R1 was introduced the next year. Honda is a solidly built bike but its not above any other bike except maybe the gsrx since Suzuki has been kinda laggin behind just as long as honda has.
This bike has no point to the consumer... people will look at this, then the price and choose the fireblade...
They only made about 250 of them and they are all sold.
That’s the point. Italians have been doing this forever.
Why is everyone forgetting about Ducati's Desmosedici? How does the Honda compare to decade old Duc?
We've covered that in the review in the paper. You'll have to get MCN! Neevesy
They had digital instrument cluster back then too.
Not a bad bike and Im a fan of Honda but I'll stick with the s1000rr
Coughs in still waiting for a v5 fireblade
It Seems. You're A Real Trooper! simple purring What's your opinion about that, guys
Older bikes look 👀 miles better
Continue 👏🕊️⚖️🦅. Bike.
Makane kui aku alles mikirnkomwptiis cepat semakin cepat...... Gawe susah...
For that kind of money I want both bikes in one with a switch on the handle bars that let me flick between track and road mode. Diminishing returns at that kind of money I tell ya.
+olly killick Yeah, they have that built in. 3 power maps and 9 way traction control.
nice....street-fighter it!!!
I would choose Desmosedici RR over this bike
+Dominic Madbull We both know you can only afford the one you picked
+Nicholas King and you both know that which one is overpriced and would get the the beating in WSBK. 12K for the exhaust system? what for? lol Desmosedici RR is by miles a better bike in both performance and looks. I'd pick Desmosedici RR even if i had a million euros in my bank account.
Sam Rad They have to pass emissions or they will never be road legal, Kneeves from mcn said the bike was much better than the bsb sbk bikes and even better than the 08 gp bike he had ridden, he certainly knows a lot more about bikes than me and you.
***** lol, yeah right! battered laptime? around your garage? Gixxer??? lol lol
***** Lapped faster than K5 around where? around your dust bin you plonker!
i want to see RC213V-S VS H2(street version)
How many euros is the asian pit crew?
200k is unrealistic, a rare and expensive bike like this on the track they are stepping away from great price to performance value bikes a renowned for, might as well get mclaren 650s but if you can afford it by all means have fun
did they look at the front of the race bike and think "oh I can just stick a headlight in that air intake, and because its a rc213 street bike nobody will mention how shit that looks"
there is not so lot of solutions; it s the afraid that do the difference
Awesome bike and attention to quality and materials, for say 35k, not a penny more...
Including the "race" exchaust.
Honda, what a joke...
Hp4 eats it up.
I wish Motorcycle manufacturers would go back to giving their bikes actual names.
Why is epa regulations attacking Honda?
+Slacin' Ace Not attacking. It's just general EPA restrictions. Honda hasn't homologated the bike for this market. All they've done is taken the race bike and put lights on it. No tuning to lean out the motor or any of that bullshit. In other words its a proper race bike that they've put on the street. And they're giving buyers the ability to open it's power up without any restrictive exhaust.
looks very similar with pangiali and r1
So the bmw hp4 race would be a much better choice seems like. The hp4 race is about 80k.....this bike i think is almost 200k.....
No Human to drive, just a force to sleep in a dream
Ahh.. The gods own ambrosia for the well-heeled, un-paunched and limber.
For that money i would want it made of gold and capable of 1000 miles on a single tank of unicorn piss ;)
"MINE"!! "MINE"!! "MINE"!! 😁
Honda have always done the same with their race replicas like RC30 & RC45 which were also pitifully underpowered in road going form and need extra parts to get up to standard.
+Trakker Um what? If you ever when knee down you'd understand power isn't what makes you fast, control and responsiveness does. If you've ever ridden and 1990 RC30 or 1986 RC45, they are faster than current crop of race prepped 600cc supersports on the track. They are quicker to turn have a more linear torque curve and outclass most modern sport bikes. Only an idiot would talk about raw hp figures like it's some kind of pissing contest. Get a clue.
vidurc Kid you've never even ridden a bike have you or you might understand what I'm talking about.
Trakker lol if you make a claim like that at least check someone's profile so you don't sound like an idiot.
I've been racing professionlly for long enough to know a thing or two. You have a lot to learn.
vidurc Well your comment very much didn't sound like that because the low amount of power as stock compared to the competition was always seen as an issue even back then.
And all i saw on your profile was a possible ricer getting your information from Wikipedia.
Trakker if you actually ride and race you'd realize power doesn't do shit when it can't hit the road. Hell anyone who complains about power are mediocre riders.
Same bike will be available standard in 5 years for 10k and under
It's neat and all, but I'll take an r1m and a porsche turbo instead