A New Era of Design: The Reliant Class
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- The Reliant Class Starship featured in canon for the first time in Star Trek Picard season 2 alongside the Gagarin, Sutherland and Ross vessels. This ship has a lot of lore on it from its origin in Star Trek Online and some of that translated behind the scenes to the shows so let's take a look and analyse this space ship.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
00:17 Real Origins
01:44 Star Trek Origins
02:50 6th Generation Technology
04:40 Mission Profile
05:39 Specifications
06:54 Summary
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Despite the vain label of redshirt, the Miranda was a success of astounding proportions. What would Starfleet be without a high tech generalist?
hey it only became a redshirt when it became elderly not when it was new, it was a generalist that could slug it out with the connie.
It really reminded me of the Baltimore class heavies of WWII: effective, efficient, practical, and entirely lost in the backdrop of a war dominated by battleships and carriers.
And, just like the myth of Red Shirt death rate, the main reasons the Miranda got blown up so much was the fact they are so many of them to begin with.
@@PaiSAMSENit was a target rich environment, and most of the targets were Mirandas!
A logistics ship with 12 phaser arrays and four torpedo tubes, with the ability to fire quantum torpedoes. It also has slipstream drive. That's a pretty powerful ship for only doing courier and logistical operations.
How much space is 12 shuttles the Runabout is the size of a school bus
well it is a big bad universe. you had better be packing
As we saw in the dominion war, starfleet presses their light duty ships into frontline combat a lot. So I guess it makes sense to give your new Miranda, which makes up the backbone of almost all of starfleet, a good chance at actually doing more than exploding in that situation.
the reliant will deliver your package on time....OR ELSE
It will deliver its package, whether they'll have to use her 12 high calibre reasons per second on those who stands in its way or not is another matter.
Always had a soft spot for Starfleet ships that are Reliant-esque. Miranda, Akira, Nebula, etc.
I very much like the design and style, but I would never have named a new ship class after the reliant because of what happened to it.
@@alexfranz817 Yeah, so when did having a ship taken over (with most of her crew un-alived) by a group of Augment terrorists, who slaughtered a starbase's crew, steal a top secret project (read: WMD) and then nearly destroy the UFP flagship deserve to get a whole new starship named after it??? 🫤😔
I like that we have replacement for Miranda that is roughly the same size and layout of it's predecessor. You gotta figure they have starbases configured to deal with Miranda class ships, so it makes sense to have the new version be very similar to the old
And having smaller ships (though they're really pretty big compared to real world naval vessels) creates a lot more flexibility in the fleet.
I use the Reliant Class as my main ship in STO. It took a while, but if you spend enough on it, the ship can punch above it's weight class. They're little hot-rods, with a little work.
The USS Antares, NCC-93012
Reman shields and original Miranda nacelles.
I will never not love my malem, but the Miranda is an old slow burning flame for me in ship design. Ditto the defiant.
Funny how i seem to gravitate to these 'pocket' ships more often than not.
Sometimes a ship just hits different, and for me that's the Reliant-class. I like the design, specifically I like the nacelles slanted at a different direction but with a type of sleek look you don't see a lot in larger vessels. It looks like a ship you could have some fun in, I know it's supposed to be designed for logistics but it still has that Starfleet toughness about it that says "underestimate me at your own risk" and wouldn't mind doing a couple of hard turns in the gravity wake of a black hole.
it looks bad ass in a way the Miranda never did
We all love Trek II but given the events of the film, the implications of the Reliant, its role in the secret Genesis project, its commandeering by Khan, its battle with the Enterprise, and its destruction leading to the Genesis planet and its problems, I would expect Star Fleet to steer clear of direct references to all that by naming this class in its honor.
Just retcon a stellar service history for the U.S.S. Reliant, OR have her designer be a huge fan of Kirk, OR you could simply have the entire incidents and aftermath being classified, and this is just them moving on
@@manticorephoenix Ahhhh I gotcha. If no one knows, it protects its pre-Khan distinguished reputation.
@@baystated I mean, the amount of times a ship with the name Enterprise has been brought low and yet still being used, the Connie Defiant is known for all hands lost and being stolen by a mortal enemy to irreparably damage a mirror timeline, Kirk has his own class of ship but has his own significant tarnishes on his record, especially since he is regularly a by-the-book officer, Starfleet will give a fifth chance if it’s warranted, you could look at it as giving a ship and her crew a proper memorial
@@manticorephoenix True true true.
@@manticorephoenix Let's look at it fro mthe standpoint of the incident largely being de-classified. The battle of the motaru nebula wouldh ave been taught in the academy as textbook examples of WHY you follow regs when a fellow ship isn't answering hails, just what said ship can do if you are caught with your pants down, and how effectivly one can punch above their weightclass (the Miranda and Connie Refit have rough parity, but Kahn largely had his inexperianced crew vs kirk having his flag officers and cadets that... while inexperianced in actual combat were more familiar with the systems.
The Reliant is a ship that won in a situation where it had no rights to win.
And I suspect she was picked as survey ship for classified research because she lived up to her name.
And as you stated. This memorializes the ship and crew.
QSD enables travelling a light-year every twelve seconds, with the figures given here (150 LY per 30 minutes used, or 5 LY per minute).
As in, Earth to Alpha C in approximately 54 seconds.
That's just insane.
Just like the Ambassador class succeeding the Excelsior, this is a perfect evolution for the Miranda class.
Wasn't the Sovereign class the successor to the Excelsior?
Maybe, but the good, old Miranda is still aesthetically superior imho. Nothing beats those clean retro lines!
I feel the Obeba Class is a more refined and beautiful sucessor to the Excelsior.💙
I love the resurrection of old designs that worked. The Miranda into the Reliant, the Constitution II and Excelsior II, etc. If it's not broken, don't fix it.
When you consider how many Mirandas there were in Starfleet through the late 24th century (at least based on the on-screen evidence), there must be tens of thousands of people for whom a Miranda was the ship where they spent the majority of their career. I like the idea that the Reliant Class honors them in some sense, the workhorse of Starfleet crewed by the workaday members of Starfleet.
I actually have a 3D print of my Reliant. The USS McFly, NCC-1985.
Great Scott!
Appreciate how you've incorporated the T6 traits into this.
My main Federation captain in STO tends to use the Fleet version of the Reliant...used to use the standard one for a long while as the main ship. I use the Reman cosmetic shields for it because of the metallic hull look it gives.
My KDF captain uses the old klingon boat anchor they use as a carrier...same cosmetic shield...
One of those “Boy, a model would look good with the rest in my display case” ships.
Honestly, when I played STO (about 10 years ago now, crikey) I viewed all these homage/update ship designs quite cynically - as upgraded and reskinned versions of old ships to milk the optional purchases.
I didn’t give much attention to the finer points of the redesign. These videos over the years have honestly helped me to appreciate them a bit more.
I still feel a lot of them mess with the proportions and lines of the classic ships, but I can appreciate their filling in the previously-missing details on various models like deflectors and impulse engines, and the deliberate “family resemblance”.
One of my favorite ships to fly alongside it's more offensively outfitted variant the Bozeman Class.
It's a great little ship and exemplifies the traits that made the Miranda so successful over it's service.
What a gorgeous design. I've been really disillusioned with the Sovereign-era design aesthetics, but the ships that we're seeing now look incredible.
Tell me I'm not the only one to despise the akira and the steamrunner
I just wish that the nacelles mounted vertically under the hull like the Mirandas, not a fan of the splayed look, not in this case.
Having said that though, in STO, I did quite like to use a centaur rollbar with everything else Miranda, gave her a sweeping wing look that I found oddly graceful.
She's a beauty. Great successor to Miranda. Mine would be the USS Aegis NCC 90221. Posted as border patrol, rescue, and exploration survey.
One of my favorite cruisers in game as a dps eng...and just love the style.
It's a great design, easily the best of the new ships in my opinion. The same classic lines as the Reliant (making its ancestry obvious) while sporting the look of the new fleet. It looks retro and high-tech at the same time. I picked one up in-game despite having better ships already unlocked for starter characters based just on the ship's appearance, and run them up through Commander rank before I replace them.
Considering who used the 23C USS Reliant, it makes more sense to think the Reliant Class was named for the first successful planet scale use of the Genesis Device and the creation of the Genesis Planet.
I dig this ship.
Thank you again Rick.
Informitive as always.
I really like the Reliant class and same for the other ships that were in Star Trek Online but became cannon in Star Trek Picard. I also like how the Reliant class was pretty faithful to the Miranda design with some changes here and there but the overall look still is similar.
perfect timing because I just made my new captain and I just gave her the ship
this is a good informational videoThank you for all the extra information on this ship I didn't even know much about it
The reliant is such a beautiful successor for the Miranda
Great breakdown thanks 🖖
The Reliant class has two deflector arrays unlike it's predecessor the Miranda which seems to have zero.
it had 1 hidden one
Personally I think the Miranda has two deflector arrays, looking like 'notches' on the upper hull, one each side of the command area 'bulge'.
Although maybe those were intended, to be phasers, or sensors - originally?
This makes me want to pull my Reliant out of mothballs in STO. I only get back there once every couple months anymore.
Somehow I feel, and hope, that the Miranda class will have a centuries long design legacy.
The Reliant:
1. Got captured by augments.
2. Had most of the crew killed or mind controlled.
3. Was used in a sneak attack on the Enterprise.
4. ended up blowing up, creating a planet.
5. A planet that soon afterwards also exploded.
That is not a very reliable ship.
Did you see the video by Robb McConnell highlighting the fateful ship from TOS to TMP and the next generation U.S.S Reliant NCC-1865-A
The ship nearly destroyed the Enterprise with its phaser cannons, should’ve been called “Ass-Kicker”
@@manticorephoenix Federation ships are notoriously fragile without shields.
Not that much of an achievement.
There were other reliants
@@matheuscerqueira7952 Maybe. But that is the one Miranda class Star Trek Fans remember.
One of these on their own seems like they'd not be a huge threat.... but 3 of them could be quite nasty I think.
I like the older one, very nice Battle of Wolf 359 look to it.
Digging through your videos. Fantastic job! I can’t imagine how much work it must take to tie together all the shows, books, games, timelines .etc into such a clear narrative.
I teach history and I love a lore channel that can present it like this. History as a story.
I know a lot of the show lore, but I’m not gonna get into ST Online, so it’s nice to hear those histories.
Apart from the blue LED strips on the nacelles I really like the look of this Reliant, it looks clean, like a Star Trek starship, as opposed to the dark panelled ships that look more like Star Wars ships.
Would be cool to see the Valiant-class covered, if it hasn't been already.
What can I say? I like escorts. :P
I look forward to seeing a Shi'Kar video. Both old and new variants.
I absolutely love this design!
It looks like a cross between a nebula-class and Miranda class. It looks fast and battle ready 💪
Your final point about complexity is an interesting one and has me thinking that it might point to a wider issue for the Federation in the late C24th to early C25th
Complex ships like this would not only require more effort to build but also maintain & support. Following a series of wars and attacks (such as the Synth attack). I wonder if the Federation was suffering its equivalent of a recession.
That may explain why complex ships were phased out - such as with Luna Class systems put into the frames of easier to maintain classes like the Constitution III that used simpler and common components where they could (e.g. the "old" style internals in the nacelles). Or why the Enterprise F was retired comparatively early.
Perhaps it was only with the Sagan & Echelon class we see Star Fleet returning to the best practice of developing top end fleets of related classes (last seen with the Sovereign, Parliament, California etc) even if they were designed for sustainability (the common nacelles still being used)
Truly a beautiful ship I really like the look.
This is a really cool ship! Thanks for the video Ric!
I very much approve of the redesigns STO has done.
Did you ever think that maybe, over time, one upgrade over another, these are actually refit overhauled Miranda-class ships on the down-low? MANY captains are very loyal to their long-term use ships.
I like the reliant. It's a huge upgrade over its predecessor. It is the jack of all trades.
Good old Miranda class and its evolutions is still the most practical and compact of all Starfleet designs. One of those timeless classic designs that just makes sense and works.
congratulations sir another awesome video !
ah yes, the reliant: starfleets shiny new miranda. made because they finally realised the old miranda just couldnt keep up... and then they later went and modified an even OLDER version of the miranda and gave it freaking time travel tech. 😅
Of course they made the new Reliant class tough. They made this ship a workhorse. They realize that just like the Miranda class, the new Reliant might be seeing service for a really long time. So they made sure it could protect itself for the foreseeable future.
The Reliant class actually is subtly borrowing styling queues form classic muscle cars .... YES muscle cars!... its got two huge engines mounted to a smaller sleek looking ship, with what amounts to a huge spoiler on the top!.. this ship looks sleek and fast just standing still ... Its fun to speculate about all the different class and ship designs created for Star Trek, However I think this one was created to appeal to people like me who are into the classic sports car look!
The Reliant is a really pleasing look!
Type xii phasers. The same as the sovereign class
Yep. Watered down version to not need as much maintenance
One of my most favorite ships in STO.😊
I like the sleeker designs.
This is a solid update of the Miranda design. resource minimal and with the rollbar being swappedo ut you can get an amazing amount of flexibility.
I like this far better tha nthe inquery class.
That is an awful lot of firepower for a courier and internal patrol ship. I've always liked these little ships with the rollbars and poorly defined roles, they operate very well.
Love it.
(I kinda like the Sovvie-era black-accent colors, actually. You wouldn't think to associate 'black' with Starfleet but it looks sharp and 'dressy.' )
I think the effectiveness of ships like the Defiant class and Jemhadar attack boats during the Dominion War were an influence on why there's so many weapons on this guy.
The Reliant Class should be easily reequipped for anything as its specialty. Need it for logistics? NO problem but there are better courier ships for that. Need a combat vessel? Easier to equip it from a bare keel but can easily be outfitted for combat and be a pocket battleship. The Reliant and Akira should be about the same in that regard. A ship class that can be aces at a single purpose if set up for that at the start.
Like the Akira, the Reliant can operate largely on its own but does better when part of a larger fleet/formation/constellation. The presence of such ships make a Command ship, Galaxy, Nebula, Odyssey, or similarly sized and capable class vessel that much more effective.
We don't hear about Tri-Cobalt devices that Voyager had that much anymore. Do we know which classes made use of these?
OMG!! It's a Miranda class on steroids!!! I LOVE IT!! REEEEEE!!
Never forget the first time I saw this ship on the big screen at a drive in somewhere in the Mojave desert. We stayed for a second showing (something some drive ins did repeating the first show after) which being a youngin I fell sleep mid way through the second show. It was a double feature and I cant remember what the other movie was.
Later on I built a pretty nice model that didn’t survive moves. I think the front and aft torpedo pod and the heavy phasers really appealed to me.
The Miranda Class may not be the best or biggest ship in the Federation, but I have great affection for her. 💖
To me, she's like the first car we had or the first girlfriend we kissed. Yeah, I know that's a corny thing to say. Judge me.
Along with the Interprise Constitution refit, the Excelsior Class, the Galaxy Class and the Nebula Class, the Miranda Class is on my list of ships that best represent the Federation and Star Trek.
interesting considering the federation's ai-phobia or whatever you want to call it. you would think they'd drift towards more isolated battlestar like computing systems. overall a cool ship. i could see putting my name in to serve on one or be her captain
1000 seems like a lot, compared to a normal crew of 200. They must get really crammed in when going for evacuation.
Hi Cert, can't beat the Reliant, no A,no B,No Bloody C.
Ooohh.... I love this design...
my favourite awesome ship
It's crazy to be reminded STO is still around. Loved it back a decade ago but it wasn't even in parity with tech back then given the "online" limitation of the time. How is it still going?!?
In-universe, why would they name a ship class after the Reliant? The Reliant (NCC-1864, anyway) is famous to us because of TWoK- but in-universe, that seems like it'd be more infamous than famous.
Actually it’s named after the British motor vehicle company ;)
I can almost here the Corp of Engineers breathing heavily over this one.
I would like the SHIP to go now 😂good old Mr S
Always thought the Miranda class would a good science or ambassador ship.
I don't really get why there's this ship and the Centaur class in the same era. They seem rather similar in scope and purpose to me.
You should investigate the concept of "in-app purchases." All will become clear.
Wasn’t the Centaur a product of the late 2200s or early 2300s, while this is like a century later?
@@kaitlyn__L maybe half a century, Centaur is made of Excelsior saucer, sure, but it was designed to field ships for the Dominion War, which Is not that far from the current date of STO
It's unfortunate they couldn't make this the new starter ship for the new tutorial and for new players to command. The beautiful new 25th century interior set doesn't really fit the Miranda class, and the fact Starfleet Academy is flying training cruises on 150 year old starships is kinda hilarious. Unfortunately, giving a T6 ship to new players instead of the old T1 Miranda just wasn't possible. I know they tried, but couldn't find a way.
Regardless, this is my favorite part of Star Trek Online outside of the main storyline. The updates of old ships with absolutely gorgeous new designs, new classes, and new roles in the fleet. As much as I love the TNG-movie-era starships like the Sovereign, Akira, Luna, etc., the 25th century really needed to stand out on its own. Thanks to Thomas and the rest of this game's designers and artists, they've done that spectacularly.
Love the look of this thing. Those oversized nacelles give it a sort of hotrod vibe. Looks sleek and fast.
So clearly Tuvok had nothing to do with her design ;)
This reminds me of the Doctor Who episode “Voyage of the Damned”. On board a luxury space liner modeled after the Titanic “You Guys do realize why this ship was so famous right?”
quick question, other than. In a universe with subspace comm and replicators, what other than people is it couriering?
After 30 minute use of the slip stream drive could it still go to warp?
i am surprised none of these new ships used the ablative hull plating from star trek voyager.
I can only think of the Reliant Robin.
So Starfleet's greatest threat... is Mr. Bean?
I wish we could get Models of these ships. I have a Model of the old Reliant based on the movie with the battle damage.
Rick, have you done a video on the New Orlins class?
fun fact in the begein of sto your defult ship for the player was the uss miranda ncc-1805-b i think it would be upgrade to a reliant class as a subclass
I want to see how far I can get with a Miranda variant. Would you recommend the Reliant or the Bozeman? I'm planning on picking up the T6 Excelsior variant to replace it with eventually, since I doubt I can get enough zen to buy the pack with the Legendary Excelsior, and the Excelsior-II is explicitly not an Excelsior variant, but its own frame.
Wait for a sale!
One of the better Miranda variants is the T6 Clarke, as it also unlocks visuals for the Discovery-era Malachowski class. People have made impressive kitbashes using the parts the Clarke/Malachowski unlocks. The Clarke can also launch fighters, which is always useful for dealing damage and soaking up enemy fire.
Ignore the T6 Excelsior. The ugly 3000 zen Resolute was one if STO's earliest T6 ships and thus suffers for it in visuals and performance. The Legendary Excelsior is in the 11th Anniversary bundle and this far too expensive. If you want a decent Excelsior-looking T6 ship, consider the Concorde class Command Battlecruiser. It's big, though.
Does anyone know the name of the music that plays in the first segment of the video?
do you have anything on the larger ship at the end of star trek into the darkness?? was wondering about the spec of it.
Ric another good video from a fellow Brit, any1 know where I can get a nova model ship from the UK?
I have to get this for my fleet. It may be called reliant but I see Miranda👍
It is Reliant-Class in Nebula Class because of the overall design. MerryXmas🎅🏻, & an Out Of This World,2024🖖🏼!
I like it.
0:45. Did you possibly mean the Andromeda 'strain' class?
Reliant Robin class, 3 nacelles, will tip over if you vigorously swerve, or try to turn slowly.
Have the updated the Steamrunner Class?
I wish the USS Reliant would return in the new Star Trek shows (not the original, its successor, the E, F, or G.).
Hmm, I think that it might just do....how long does the construction take?
Isnt there an intelligence version of this class thats being called a heavy frigate instead of a light cruiser? Personally i love frigates, but how does that fit? 7:35 hell, it even said frigate on the standard version, :p
You have to wonder what Starfleet bureaucrat came to naming the class and went "Hey, remember that ship we lost during that embarrassing failed secret project that almost triggered a war and skilled Spock, and was hijacked by the worst warlord of the Eugenics Wars because we allowed him to live when Kirk found him? THAT one."
I don't like the bottom deflector and I don't see why it's needed but otherwise the ship looks very nice. I like the deflector being on the top of the dish because that's fresh akin to other Federation design.
@corehaven22 One of the deflectors will be for standard use whilst the other is probably primarily for the burst QSD as it's still experimental tech at this point.
The original Miranda class had a much cooler looking roll bar