Advance Wars: Re-Boot Camp - One Of The Best Games Of All Time
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Advance Wars is back with the brand new Advance Wars: Re-Boot Camp, resurrecting one of my favourite game franchises of all time, and I could not be happier to play it...
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The first 17 minutes of this video are _just_ Jon showing off how good he is at this game by ignoring the objective.
And I am 100% here for it
Once you beat the game you unlock a hard mode and in the hard version of this level actually replaces the Transport Copter with another Battle Copter to all but force you to win by rout instead. So he basically did an extra hard mode by playing like it's the hard version of the map but with one less Battle Copter
It's almost like the game is way too easy. Remakes these days are so simple. Anti air ambush? Just throw your planes at them! Don't worry, I'll use my heap ability after almost all my units are dead.
@@unsolicitedditkapics9722 what does that have to do with remakes these days? it's literally just the same game with a new coat of paint
@@unsolicitedditkapics9722 This remake is an exact copy. They only changed the ai to be smarter and not cheat in fog of war
@@unsolicitedditkapics9722 Holy shit bro its not that deep, r/iamverysmart vibes here
Jon, maybe you should do a side series taking on fan maps?
I'd watch it.
I wish Jon would do full playthroughs of his favorite games, such as this one! Always a fun time to see Jon show off his skills. Loved this!
AN HOUR OF ADVANCE WARS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Pretty much the same reaction I had nice
I honestly really liked Days of Ruin, despite the admittedly divisive genre shift. It had a surprisingly decent story that managed to just barely eck itself out of grimdark territory, and was easily the funniest of the games, ironically enough. Lots of good dialogue, I thought.
The gameplay itself was fine, and did a decent job of reeling back the power creep that had taken hold in Dual Strike, but the CO mechanics never really worked for me. Especially because they didn't even start to kick in until the end game.
Preach brother, Days of Ruin doesn't get the recognition it deserves.
DoR took the Storytelling in a bold new direction attempting to tell a serious story with the grit and seriousness it deserved, DoR rebalanced all the units costs and some of their performances, and DoR attempted a new way of implementing CO abilities and powers.
Jon has repeatedly insulted Days of Ruin over the years and I'm sitting here asking, "Did we even play the same game? What is Jon complaining about?"
@@chriswriter9087 I mean, I get it. If you fell in love with the old characters and prefered the goofy tone, it's a pretty hard shift to accept. Especially since it was the last game in the series. And I'll even admit that the color pallet gets a bit depressing, in all honesty. But as a game and story of its own, outside the Advance Wars brand, I think it's pretty great.
My favorite bit is when they get to the bunker and have to enter a code to get in, and one of the characters just asks "Okay, does anybody have a favorite 10 digit number" only for Isabella to answer with one (for backstory reasons), and the first character just doesn't know how to react. Kills me every time.
That and the War Room skits.
@@chriswriter9087 Same here. Days Of Ruin is my favorite of the bunch. The campaign had some questionable maps, but so do the others. But the unit balance is easily the best of the entire series.
Over an hour long?! That takes me back a couple years. Super happy to watch this, never played it myself but its always a lovely time watching you play your favorite games.
It must be real good then. I don't think I've seen any videos where he's played over an hour outside of series uploads. Honestly even most series uploads are just less than an hour in run time
Honestly the Battalion Wars games are really fun and underrated action/tactics games. People didn’t give them much of a chance because of how different they were, but it’s great fun leading your little army around and seamlessly switching between units
And also, not only are they great games, but they're the cousin of Advance Wars, not an Advance Wars game. It deserves a reboot.
My personal problem with Battalion Wars is that there's a reason I like turn-based strategy: I'm quite good at it. I'm a lot worse at real-time strategy, worse still at the kind of third person action-strategy the BW games went with. I gave up roughly seven missions into the second game because I couldn't handle the fighter and bomber controls, even in what were meant to be their tutorials; I just don't have the kind of manual dexterity, reflexes and spatial awareness it asked for. And from talking to others, the first game has difficulty spikes that would make Advance Campaign blush.
Like I'm sure they're good games, but there are a lot of good games I don't particularly want to play.
Re Wargroove: Yeah, it's not bad. Its highs are comparable with AW's highs, and that's not something I say lightly. Its lows are a lot lower though.
I love it so much when you just get to see John enjoying himself. There's a reason this one so long.
Fun fact Days of Ruin is one of the highest selling advance wars games in the series
Little sad Jon is so down on Days of Ruin, as that was my intro to Advance Wars as the overly colourful aesthetic never really worked for me as a strategy thing, just seems at odds with the whole 'war' thing. Especially as it had a plot that it wanted you to take a bit seriously which is kinda not possible with the more cartoony games. I did eventually play Dual Strike and enjoyed it a lot, to the degree that I got this one as well, but it does feel a bit like Fire Emblem to me, where the games in each franchise I really like are the outliers, making me a bit sad that the rest of the series isn't doing what I like about the ones that caught my attention. (Kind of the risk when series try something new to appeal to new audiences, unless you really commit, that new audience is likely to be disappointed if the other games don't do that thing)
I really hope we get a live stream of this or maybe a run through of the campaign just for the fun dialogue between the commanders! Also, just the small animations look so good!
You just know when Jon is enthousiastic about a game the video is over a 50 minute long. And today he treats us with a video over an hour long!
Thanks Jon for throwing my night sleep down the drain !
Seeing Jon being so happy about anything is always great.
This series was my childhood, the timing was great because literally days after I beat Advance Wars 1 on Hard (not Rivals, sorry I didn't even want to attempt it lol) after trying for so long; I heard that Advance Wars 2 was coming out. Great times
This game has Dutch voice-overs! It's extremely rare for a popular franchise like this to have Dutch voice-over. So I've been playing in Dutch. It's refreshing. I play all my games in English, and I have no issues with that. But I'm having a lot of fun with the Dutch VO's!
I dunno if you're gonna give us a series on this, or if its just gonna become livestream material, but either way Jon I think we all want more of this.
We like the games you do good at!
Days of Ruin/Dark Conflict was the best one Jon, it sold the best, it was the most balanced, it has the largest extant playing community. You not liking it doesn't mean it killed the series.
Omg, now THIS is a good thing to witness! I remember playing a game like Advance Wars years ago that was on the PSP, mostly because I was hoping for something to fill that gap. You should totally do a series on this, just a full play of it for some good fun!
Do you recall the name of that PSP game? I have a vivid memory of playing a game like that on my cousin's PSP back in the day
@@sirboneless817 Field Commander! I remember it well, was like Sony making a copy of the Advance Wars games, and it was a pretty good copy ngl
Omg school trips, passing my Gameboy Advanced around between me and my 3 friend.
Adcanve wars 2 is a top-notch game that I come back to again and again.
I hope he does a full playthrough of this
Me and a friend use to play this in choir all the time. And another friend during study hour. Can't wait to pick it up!
I never got into Advance Wars. Battalion Wars was my jam, but that's a completely different beast. Real time tactical combat where you simultaneously body-jack your own troops while issuing commands. You didn't get to sit back and contemplate your moves with math, you had to make quick decisions and hope it all went well.
Battalion wars was amazing!
I would love a small series of this or maybe a stream or two. This was really satisfying to watch!
Ah I love the Sonja vs Lash battle myself.
The other one I liked was when Sensei first showed up.
And any mission with Colin because CAPITALISM, HO! as he unleashes the Power of Money to the point where my Mechs can absolutely shred even Neotanks.
I hope this becomes a series! I'm currently playing though it on my own, but I'd love to see how Jon plays it!
With all due respect, Dark Conflict is the best game of the series. Much more balanced, more interesting buildings like radar stations and temporary ports/airports, the APC is more useful, you can reveal hiding spots by simply going past them instead of only sitting next to them or driving right through them, COs were more balanced and tactical by limiting their day to day, ships were much more viable, and all the added units have their own useful niches.
The game has sustained a good online following and to top it all off, it actually sold better than dual strike, so evidently not a let down. It's hardly a misrepresentation of the series and so while I can understand why people may not like it I will die on this hill
Some more improvements found in dark conflict, because it's possibly my favourite game of all time:
Defence and attack modifiers are altered to be linear, so better attack cancels out better defence, making stalemates much less likely.
The AI doesn't cheat in fog.
More slots for homemade maps on cartridge.
The high end units have their own bigger weaknesses, meaning it can be much better to buy cheaper. Top tier units are less OP.
The ace system incentivises keeping your units alive and allows you to build momentum instead of just throwing them into the meat grinder.
Slightly lowered ammo counts also prevent stalemates and ensure that logistics is more important.
The weather is simplified but still very distinct.
(I believe) this was the first game to introduce starting funds, meaning games didn't need to begin from 0.
The battleship can move and shoot in the same turn, making it much more useful than just a floating rocket.
Carriers are improved and ship planes introduced, cruisers are much more powerful and serve as the backbone of a fleet, and missile boats perform the same role as black boats but can also fight back.
Motorbikes absolutely change the capture game and do wonders to speed up gameplay. Having infantry be more expensive also prevents the spam a bit.
Bridges aren't impenetrable barriers that naval units can't move past. Sure it's annoying that your tank can't progress because there's a submarine in the road, but it's better than the alternative.
The soundtrack slaps
Dude looking at this remake makes me think it's been super dumbed down. Jon just tossed his guys in with basically no tactics but the CP and turtling. I agree with you
I also like Dark Conflict because of the, well, darker setup and deeper characters. but my favorite would be Dual Strike, because of the abundance of features, and commanders that all work really well together. and the ability to fight two battles at once, with two commanders sending troops to each other is just genius! unfortunately we probably won't see this again, because it was tailor-made for the DS.
PS: I pretty much despise the graphics of the remake. they could have gone with a little more character instead of the mobile look. look for Wargroove 2 for the general direction I had in mind.
@@--ART3MIS-- not gonna lie I struggled with the multiple screen battles in dual strike, especially the ones where the AI just fights itself on the second front. I like the concept but wished they'd feed into each other better, because sometimes it would just be very tedious and harder to keep track of.
I don't mind the new graphics as much but I will admit it's not what I was hoping for
Good God people are passionate about these games😮
Advanced Wars itself was the 7th game in a series that started on the NES in Japan. There's japanese only entries on the NES, SNES and the Game Boy/Colour
I love these wholesom one off videos you do just to show off games, it's always nice to see these just to appreciate them.
I think Jon might've been excited about this one
He may even, I daresay, have had his eye on this one for quite a while
I'll be honest, the fact that we got a good advance wars game is wild, i can't wait for the dual strike and days of ruin remakes
my favorite games, although, Dual Strike will be hard to remake, because it was tailor-made for two screens. but in my opinion it's the richest game in the series, featur-wise.
Thank you for this wonderful video and planning to make it a stream! This is still one of the only games I play, can dream the maps and it's so cool to hear your strategies and compare. Gonna fire up the old Gameboy advanced now :)
Pls make this a series
Days of Ruin is the game i played first and i honestly loved that game. I never would have guessed that the original art style was so different.
If you're enjoying the character art in this remake the artist has a webcomic called Solstoria which is a lot of fun.
I love Days of Ruins, like I legit think its a very good game. There is some legitimate good writing in that game, it revels in showing off the horrors of war, and the new mechanics are pretty fun. I think if it wasn't the end of new installments for the series it would be much better remembered and regarded. Yeah it was vastly different in tone, and such but it wasn't bad I personally like most of the story. Also like it commercially and critically succeeded. Scoring on average only 4 points less than dual strike (7 less than 2), and even outsold dual strike.
Yeah, Days of Ruin is perfectly good. The story's good (I played through the Dark Conflict European version myself, but I do think I prefer Days of Ruin's "woolseyisms"), the gameplay is fun and challenging, they made some good efforts to try and rebalance the units even if the anti-tank goes a bit hard. My main complaints are a drab and muddy art style (compounded by DS games' weird obsession with sprite scaling, which is a problem Dual Strike shares: AW1 and 2 nail their unit spritework so well, it's a shame what happened afterwards) and a relative lack of single-player content (no hard campaign, can never choose your CO in either missions or trial maps, heck until late on in the campaign your CO is completely irrelevant). I get that they wanted to make up for the lack of single-player with online multiplayer and a lot of map customisation, but some dodgy connectivity and the fact that you could only use 10x10 custom maps for multiplayer undercut that.
I say all this with the caveat that all four GBA and DS games are, like, 92%+ games, and DoR might even be my second favourite after AW2 in terms of gameplay quality. But it is telling that I put over 200 hours into Dual Strike and only about 50 into DoR.
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music, don't forget about the music, absolutely brilliant
Please do a full Challenge Mode playthrough of this game! I didn't really play Advance Wars 1 but AW2 is one of my top ten favorite games.
if it didn't come out around the same time as jedi survivor and tears of the kingdom, i'd love to pick this one up. it's an absolute gem of a game. unfortunately my gamer allowence is already spent on something else though.
This is aws chance to try and get more games. There will always be more zeldas
Consider trying out the originals with a GBA emulator. They're still great and more or less the same mechanically
Hey Jon sorry for the comment spam but did you know there's a hidden luck mechanic in the advance wars series where your units will randomly do more or less damage with a dice roll about 10 percent more or less
There's a youtuber named Mangs who did a great video on it
Ok now I'm worried, Jon referred to the red troops as orange and said it with such confidence, that I don't know if I'm the colour blind one or he is
Nope, just Jon being Jon, but they DO look pretty red and on DS they also looked pretty red....
The red team is called orange star because the devs thought a nation called red star would sound a bit too communist, and the name just stuck
Also Jon is genuinely colorblind. He has mentioned it a few times on the patroncasts, but he specifically has trouble with red/orange/brown iirc
@@AlteredOaks Ahh ok, fair enough
Do a series! Both campaigns, with your style of commentary would be awesome! Livestreams for taking on fan maps too?
Only ever played AW Days of Ruin (I know it as Dark Conflict) on the DS, but man, I loved it. Put a whoooole lot of hours in. Crazy how different the style is compared to this.
Man same! That game was awesome!
Same. It was also the most balanced of the Advance Wars games. The soundtrack was baller too, and I loved the story.
As an Advance Wars fan who's also playing Reboot Camp at the moment, would love to see you play more of it!
I'd love to see you play more of it !
Tom Clancy's End War on the DS used this style of combat. I played a lot of that when I was young
Jon how can you hate days of ruin when it is the best advanced wars game?
Would love a series of this!
I loved this game , i used to try to destroy every enemy unless it was a rare situation where the game pushed a different objective on u like holding out or time limits
This would be a huge hit if it ever came to PC.
I mean they never would, but Nintendo would do so well if they did PC ports.
It's already a huge hit, and has been for years, courtesy of Advance Wars By Web and Tiny Wars Legacy communities, who recreated the game for online play and who have even made custom campaigns and characters
Jon, you may shit on Days of Ruin, but the actual gameplay of that title was far more balanced and tactically satisfying than the older games. I fully agree that the darker anime makeover and oddly toothless story (despite trying to look darker and edgier) didn't help it, but the trial maps were fantastic. IMO, CO powers were way OP in the previous AW games, and DoR brought them into line and made unit choices and good positioning matter far more. But that's my bias as someone who hated how dumb CO powers were in the older games.
I remember playing this game in school using the flash player. I happy this gane is back
Will definitely be picking this up! But I'll say it again, Jon should really give Fire Emblem: Three Houses a go.
Oh no.....I HAVE TO BUY THIS! I've never found another game like advanced wars. So happy to see it coming back!
Never heard of this before but it's MATN vid so gotta be interesting
Opening rant featuring Advanced Wars and Skies of Arcadia, that hits my nostalgia hard and I'm here for it
What really bugs me is why the developer chose to go with those terrible 3D models when retro throwbacks are proving that HD Spritework exists and can be absolutely beautiful. I'd rather not play this and instead remember Advance Wars as I chose to remember it.
This almost feels like a case of "we had the assets lying around from a mobile game port" syndrome - I can't genuinely believe they would go through the effort of remaking everything in 3D and have it look this awful.
Thought I was the only one that felt this way. Also, this just me, but I prefer not only the amazing sprite work, but also the artstyle over all of the original.
It's still worth playing, the sound design is incredible, they made much needed tweaks to the AI and many campaign maps have been updated. I hated the art style too at first, but it has grown on me (a bit). There are many quality details throughout (e.g., each faction's infantry has unique weapons and sounds, COs have dynamic themes that change during battle or CO powers) that show there was love put into the remake. I was just as cynical after watching the gameplay trailer, but I'm actually really enjoying it. Don't write it off just from the art style!
Fun fact i loved Days of Ruin
Cat/Lash is awesome. And she's 100% right about that Asuka/Sonja.
Incidentally, has Jon ever played any Front Mission games?
You sound like a UA-camr I used to watch when I was a lot younger his channel was nerd cubed and I’m assuming your him, you were a big part of my younger childhood with your gta 4 videos
"Gold Comet, used to be Yellow Comet but they renamed it for some reason" - Isn't Kanbei Japanese?
One of my all time favorites. Happy to see it get some love :).
I just want you to know Jon that I'm liking this before I watch, I'm enjoying playing along at home.
Livestream please?
Not really a fan of watching strategy games at all but Jon managed to make this entertaining enough for me to sit through the first two matches. May even play it myself one day if it goes on sale
awsome games i used to own them on the handheld Advance gameboy and i loved every minute of it.
I'm sad to hear you disliked Days of Ruin/Dark Conflict so much, especially given how I think the series peaked with it. I much preferred the tone it had, and the gameplay received a much-needed rebalancing after the mess that was Dual Strike. I also really liked the new units and changes made to existing units (especially APCs/Rigs now being able to build temporary bases for air or naval units).
Been interested in Re-Boot Camp, given I never got the chance to play the first two AW games back in the day. Given what I've seen and heard, I probably won't like it as much as Days of Ruin (soundtrack's kinda underwhelming, not a fan of the voices, and I really don't like how the 3D visuals look), but I do really want to see the series come back and I know buying this game will encourage Nintendo to keep it alive. I'm sure it'll be fun enough.
At least Days Of Ruin had a decent if typical Post Apocoliptic Military story. Saw a series on it a WHILE back it looked pretty cool.
tho ngl when you have to destroy multiple parts of pipeline as andy, while the enemy hits you with neo tanks was a fun mission
I'd definitely be up for seeing more Advance Wars! It's a game I'm considering getting into myself at some point. Seems really fun... and it might just get me to learn how to do tactics.
Advance Wars 2 is the only game I've ever played on a Gameboy Advance (my friend's). Fond memories!
Alright Jon, you've convinced me. I'll pick it up on the Switch.
i just realized the map is literally a little sandbox on a table
I sold my switch recently and right when I got home from selling it I got an ad for this game, which I didn't know was coming out 🙃
Oh wow. I’ve never played the game, but it takes me SO far back, because there was an ad for it included with a GBA game I bought
I have been waiting for this! I am planning on buying it, but I've been waiting for this video too!
I desperately need AW: Dual Strike from the DS on modern hardware, but this'll be the next best thing
I like Days of Ruin visually because I got very used to that visual style from IS's other more succsess franchsie Fire Emblem, Shadow Dragon is very much the reason behind it and it shows, the music is very FE at times, espcially the CO forcythes theme which sounds like it's from Raidant Dawn, so much so I swear it just has some of Accent in it.
Hey Jon, what do you think about the old Amiga Classic "Battle Isle", especially part two? It really reminds me of that.
Yes!! Would love more of advance wars from you!
lets play. Lets play! LETS PLAY!
bro that FUCKING GREEN EARTH MISSION. god damn those guys had some tough missions, I did orange campaign and blue moon, but I could never beat that damn sea fortress, granted i was like 10 but still.
dark conflict was my only advanced wars game but I loved everything about it... but if the originals are better I'm in for a treat!
Yesssss I love this game!! I remember playing with the infrared in Spanish class many many years ago
I haven't looked at the dev team for this but I really feel like it has the DNA of Tiny Metal - a game I saw at PAX West 2017 and bought on the Switch after its release, because they promised - and delivered - a spiritual successor to the good Advance Wars. The tank models and animations feel so similar, I'm curious if Nintendo brought that team in for this remake. I hope so!
Man I miss advance wars. I remember playing them so much. Sadly just hopeful they'll bring it to PC.
Advance War... Advance War never changes
oooh I am loving this game. I am so happy with the remake. They put a ton of love and care in it and its great!
From what I’ve heard, this game is wonderful
I went from Advance Wars 1 to Days of Ruin so didn't have all the care for the characters and stuff...honestly it was fine. The darker setting was still interesting, and the gameplay mechanics were fun enough. I think it just got bad rep because it went against the grain so much compared to previous ones.
I think he's being too harsh on it really. To he honest given that dual strike sold less than dark conflict and the series was beginning to get repetitive by that point it could be argued that the switch up helped the series' longevity somewhat
Maybe we could get a stream? Listening to happy and smug Jon is fun. :D
HELL YES! I loved this game as a kid!! AND THERE IS ONE HOUR OF THIS BEAUTY
AW2 has a very basic plot, but I do feel like it has the strongest writing of the three Wars World games: the COs have a fun variety of personalities without feeling overly "Flanderised", and they seem to care more about the troops they command and the civilians they protect than in the other two games. That and it's allied to a lot of absolutely stellar mission design.
War...war never changes. ...It does get cuter sometimes though.
IT'S BACK!!! HOLY MOSES ITS BACK!!!
Hey I know nothing about advanced war but those fighters look like stylized A10 warthog the greatest ground attack aircraft of all time
This game is so fun. Already got some buddies addicted by playing local muiltiplayer
Re-Boot Camp is the best title. I bet Jon was slightly annoyed the game itself used the obvious pun in the title.
I'd certainly like to see more of this.
Tbf, Days of Ruin wasn't necessarily the cause of the downfall, but moreso in that the developers (Intelligent Systems) effectively couldn't apply relationships as well as how they do it in Fire Emblem... As if that was what was needed for the Wars series...
Me getting Thanos Snapped upon hearing that the first Advanced Wars was out 20 years ago.