"...the Hatians, more than any other people in the age of revolutions, stood up for the idea that NONE should be slaves...Haiti stood up for the weak when the rest of the world failed to. The next time you read about Haiti's poverty, remember that". Well said
I find that part to be quite the romance... They didnt "stand up for the weak", not even for an idea, they stood up to free themselves! Which is absolutely righteous, it goes without saying, They were basically all slaves, and the motivation behind the uprising was to be free. If 90% of them were free men, and 10% were slaves, I bet my ass that there would not have been any revolution at all.
@Stanley Dougé yes tell us dominicans how they stood for us when they killed our women and children during the Moca Massacre or the 22 year occupation of DR where dominicans were treated worse than slaves.
I am a history teacher here in Brazil and my city has receive a lot of haitian refugee over the years. Unfortunelly they are marginalized and my students (even though they are also poor) imitate the prejudice against the haitians. I decided to have ONE single lesson about the Haiti Revolution (which it is a part in the official curriculum) and it was amazing, the kids now have a totally different view about the island and its people. Thank you for this episode.
Even in other french island in Caribbean who share a part of this history before 1804 clearly discriminate a lot Haitians like dogs Martinique Guadeloupe St Martin 😤
But...youguys got screwed after the revolution economically and socially...i rather be a gullah geechee since they actually thrived untouched for the most part.
I'm a Filipino living in Hong Kong and this is one of my favorite episodes in this series. It's very enlightening and powerful especially to people like me living on the other side of the world. I'm also one of those who googled for "Why Haiti is so poor" and this reminds me that it's really important to know history in order to put things into perspective.
It’s great you’ve taken an interest in Haiti’s history. Hopefully you’ve come across reputable sources. This young man didn’t fully describe the true revolution of Haiti, you’ll have to do a bit more research for that. As to why is Haiti so poor, it is because since the revolution ‘till now the French and the American governments have saddled Haiti with debts, imposed sanctions and embargo on the country; they’ve meddled in Haiti’s elections, putting into power those who agree to do the French and American governments’ biddings, those governments are behind a lot of coup d’etat that’s occurred in Haiti and assisted in the deaths of many political leaders who wanted good for the Haitian people. Please do the research, the information is out there, we just gotta do some work to get to it.
As a Haitian, I will admit, what happened after the Revolution was pure evil. But I think if you ask any Haitian, would they rather be the Mecca of the Caribbean vs Being Known as the first Independent black nation, I am sure we would rather the latter. We are not people conditioned to see wealth over dignity. Our pride runs deep. We are very spiritual people, so we rather be dead than spiritually dead. Slavery sucked the spirit out of our people and we grew tired of it. If you go to Haiti you see AFRICA. Yes you will see a mixture of French which makes it Kreyol culture (not to be confused with Creole in New Orleans), but for the most part we are very proud of our African features, African music, and African spirit. No one can take that away from us. We are economically poor but spiritually rich. It feels really good to be Haitian and I want to let the world know we are very proud people.
Jess JayEel Forgive my ignorance. I have never paid attention to that part of the world but ever since I have watched that video and read your words, Haiti's love has ingrained deep down in my heart
Jess JayEel ( I know this post is from a while ago) But did you mean the first free Black Nation in the Americas, because the scramble for Africa didn't even happen by the time Haiti became an independent country and there were dozens of nations spread throughout the African continent during the Revolution.
+Jonathon von Tischner Religion in Haiti includes both West African Voodoo and Christianity. The traditionalists have no problem with the two coexisting, while the Christians have frequently tried to suppress the other side as "Book" religions often will. As the likes of Anders Breivik or David Gunn should remind you, Christians can be pretty darn dangerous.
John Green says "Haiti stood up for the weak when the world failed too" so was all the murdering of women and children during the 1804 "standing up for the weak"?
Haity independance didnt come cheap , france required a payment for them to accept the independence it took almost 90 years to pay that debt which impoverished Haiti even more
Lionel Tapsoba What really impoverished HAITI to this very day is the MAJOR countries ignoring and punishing HAITI for revolting. I say Make HAITI GREAT!! We can to it. Make it our vacation and retirement Mecca!!
The Haitian Revolution, as this video states, has always been ignored or unrecognized. So thank you crash course for giving the correct interpretation of Haiti's history and its extraordinary moment of independence. I'm proud to be a Haitian !
This is one of my favourite episodes of crash course. It really spoke to me about true civil rights. The Haitians were such brave people to stand against France purely based on the idea of freedom. They fought for it and achieved it.
@@mandiwifeyTrust me most dominicans are very aware of our african ancestry. But also of our taino and european ancestry; that´s what most people saying "dominicans deny they are black" don´t understand.
@Saeed B. So I must hate one part of my ancestry and totally ignore it? I have african, european and taino ancestry, and I´m really proud of it. I won´t tell you there wasn´t slavery, or that the Spanish did horrible things to the natives, but the mixing here happened very diferent here, and ended up with a very homogeneous population. There are a few books I can recomend you if you want to understand it better
Thank you infinitely for this episode. I’m a Haitian-American doing history homework with my son. There Is one full page devoted to the institution of slavery in the entire US history 1 textbook, and absolutely no mention of the Haitian Revolution or its role in significance within American history. So thank you for covering this and thank you for being willing to point out the inevitable correlation between Haiti’s current trials and it’s history of slavery and revolution.
I just want to say, THANK YOU JOHN GREEN!!!!(and Raoul Meyer and Danica and thoughtbubble). So many people fail to recognize Haitian contributions to the development of the Americas. your speech at the end was so eloquent and beautiful. I'm glad that you could acknowledge the state of the country today, and respect Haiti's history.
Thank you so much for making this video. I'm Haitian, though I was born in and live in the US. My mother was born and raised in Haiti. I'm glad to see that there are videos about Haiti's accomplishments. Most people seem to only know about the disasters that have strikes it.
God doesn't hate anyone. Of course you would say that. Your dislike of haiti, you are vaguely saying god hates haiti due to your dislike of Haiti. Example, if you disliked asians, you would say god hates china. You are making vague points that don't make sense. You can't state things like this.
I see what you mean. But there are other countries with bad history as well. Others would be included. But you do have a point. My country does have a history but others have a bad history also.
More like the west and European countries hate Haiti. It isn't mentioned all the Western powers refused to recognize and trade with Haiti. France actually returned with a better equipped army years later and demanded it be payed 150 million francs for all the slaves and territory it lost, of course Haitians refused, but eventually without help from anyone they had to succumb to France's demands. This cost Haiti schools and other things that would help its infrastructure. Later, in 1914 the U.S. actually invaded as well and took all of it's gold and ever since then it has basically picked all of Haiti's rulers. Don't believe me, just look it up. There's a lot of things people don't know and the truth is sick.
I'm a first-time grad student TA helping a professor redesign her history course and writing all the section lesson plans, and I just made a note to show this in class at the end of the section about the Haitian Revolutions. Thanks, John, for the wonderful and insightful video!
Guys, these are 10 minute videos on large historical subjects. of course he cant mention everything. This is supposed to be a crash course on the subject, an introduction. not an in depth detailed explanation.
François Royal but, it might to get a good picture of it.and a viewer might get the wrong impression or something. idk. just saying its hard to squeeze everything about a big historical event into a 10 minute video. he's missed tons of other things on other videos as well. but, it is an introduction to the subject, so that is fine. if it were more in depth, than yes. it should be mentioned.
François Royal i dont think he meant to insult anyone. just to give an intro to the subject. i knew almost nothing about Haitian History before i watched this so i learned stuff. I then did more of my own research so yeah. if this was a more in depth video like maybe 30 minutes. then yeah, it would be insulting not to mention it.
So???? I'm Dominican and I would be proud as well. Your country is your country, no matter what the circumstances are. Him saying he's proud is him saying that he actually CARES for what happens to his country, and that is nothing but admirable.
You know, one of my history teachers said that the 2010 earthquake in Haiti was God's punishment for the Haitian rebellion. Looking back, that was a really messed up thing to tell a bunch of high schoolers....
dubreil07 It was either freshman or sophomore year of high school so...14 or 15? And I mean this guy also replied "What?" in class whenever someone said "Oh my God" or anything like that. He had an odd sense of humor, but really not a bad guy. And Ali Raza no, at the time I lived in Virginia. Why do you ask?
10 years later, and I'm still watching these videos. Thanks to the whole CrashCourse team for a decade of history knowledge (which I use to study for tests, lol)
In America, conservatives consider reparations for slavery to be ridiculous since it happened a long time ago. Yet Haiti was forced to pay the USA and France billions in *'reparations' for freeing the slaves*, This continued all the way until 1947.
And most Constitutional Conservatives today were not around in 1947. Slavery of any race is a horrible institution, bottom line. It still goes on in Asia and the Middle East however, even if it's more of an underground business now.
its crazy to see people downing Haiti in the comments for killing the people who kidnapped them against their will! Americans killed Natives for no reason but that's okay? wth
+Xzodia Yin Zero Thanks Haitian people for contributing to the foundation of my home state, Missouri. Wooo! EDIT: To clarify, because the Haitian revolution is why the Louisiana Purchase occurred, which is what the State of Missouri formed from.
I honestly think that CrashCourse history is the best thing that ever happened to me that's history-related! It makes everything so much easier to understand and serves as a great review for me. Because of this series, I can not only understand but REMEMBER everything that I learn. My teacher even uses some of these videos in class. It is such a great help to me!!
The only reason anyone is mentioning that Haitian Massacre is because A: They know a fact omitted, and feel clever for correcting it. B: That for some reason they want to paint Haitians as brutal rather than reactionary. I just clear don't understand the point. If you enforce slavery on people, with skin colour being the deciding factor, then you simply cannot be surprised when they apply that logic back when the situation reverses. Yes the killing of women and children is a crime, however from a psychological point of view, the treatment of these people in such a way would have more than likely resulted in PTSD and other such psychological traumas that damaged them. This results in a mental state where human life is no longer valued in the same way, therefore leading to the situation where a massacre could take place. Again as a direct result of the psychological repercussions of slavery.
TheAwillz oh gee guess that’s why they forced white women to marry black men or face death. So whites in the island would go extinct. That was just reaction to what the slave owners did. Oh wait except they didn’t.
"Yes the killing of women and children is a crime" Actually no, it was justified. Women are not innocent just because they have vaginas and the children would just grow up to become slave owners themselves. They are all part of the same system, and thus were the enemy. Their actions were entirely logical.
+Emilio This troll is following me around now because I humiliated it in another comment thread. How pathetic. Ad hominems are a good way to discredit your position and reveal that you have no intellectual arguments. Like most racists, you don't like facts and are biased. Rationalizing and defending slavery is far more sick, if you want to view a sick person, look in the mirror.
Honestly I feel like presenting such a reduced condensed version of history can do more harm than good. There was so much more to Toussaint than just a guy who "wasn't actually that popular". You can at least put some references and further readings in the description. You can at least *mention* CLR James's Black Jacobins, the most important book on the Haitian revolution, one of the most important history books period. I don't know why I'm writing this about a 7 year old video like it's gonna change anything, but KIDS WATCHING THIS, THIS VIDEO IS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH PLEASE READ THE BLACK JACOBINS
Obviously you ween't able to give the full scope of Haiti's story in this 12 minute video, but overall you guys do a great job! Thanks for this video on Haiti's overlooked history.
I've checked a couple of crashcourse videos over the years but I made the decision to subscribe after watching this one! It's by far the most exhaustive and accurate tale of the haitian revolution online! Bravo!!
I've been watching the World History playlist for a few weeks now off and on, and this episode has been the most captivating for some reason. When Louverture is arrested and dies in prison I had to stop the video to lament, almost like a George R.R. Martin twist. I've never heard this story before, very interesting and inspiring, well done!
Also interesting to note: In 1825 (I think) France demanded Haiti pay for their independence to compensate for the former's economic and military losses in "granting" independence. Haiti paid that debt and in doing so amassed more debt from foreign banks, losing revenue that could have been used for other things thereby contributing to the poverty today. In the early 2000s, the Haitian gov't demanded reparations for this and received none.
So I'm going to suggest something a little crazy here. I know this is the internet and all, but perhaps, just perhaps, this video could be used as a jumping off point for discussing the history of the Haitian revolution. You know, as John would say, imagining history complexly. Because it is complex. I'm sure there's tons of incredibly important material John and the Crash Course crew didn't include. Quite a bit of it I'm sure they wish they could have. No matter the reason, I doubt very much if any of the Crash Course crew would be offended if people in the comments took the opportunity to tell those sides of the story. In fact, I imagine they'd be delighted. And perhaps you'd get an audience to your point of view that's already demonstrably ready to learn more about history. Or, you know, accuse them of whitewashing history and carry on screaming at each other.
Dear brothers, I cant thank you enough for providing us college kids and other kids with these videos. I just got out of my History 112 class in my college and thanks to this video i answered 2 questions right for sure. this was the one topic we had not discussed and we were left on our own for finding the information. Thank you for this video.
You forgot to mention one random trivia fact: Napoleon sen't Polish troops to haiti which worked for them in exchange for him promising to restore Poland after conquering Germany. But seeing as how simmilar the situation of people from haitit are to Poles under german/Russian/Austrian rule. Most of the sen't Polish soldiers joined the rebbels and helped them defeat the french. There was no that much of them, but there are now a lot of Haitians which have polish surnames. Though there is no Polish cultural influence.
Vjorp not true brother it is known that when napoleon soldiers arrived in Haiti and realize that they alone defeated the French in other part of the country some of them decided to join the slave to fight against the French there is a similar story in Europe where the one side admire their enemy tactics and chose to join them. They were coming to reestablish slaveravery in the island
What you are wrong about is one thing though. Poles were unwilling to go to Haiti, they wanted to fight Germans and Russians and free their homeland. Not to mention that unlike other parts of europe slavery was considered barbaric and inhuman in Poland. 1. Because Poles and other slavs were once wery often sold as slaves. 2. Poles were very believing catholics and the catholic church condemned slavery. (yes they actually did) 3. At the time Poland was occupied by foreign forces, they they had a very big sentiment towards other opressed groups. You might now know bu Poles were very desperate at the time. Desperate to the point that Polish fighters and Generals participated in random revolutions around europe in hopes that if the revolution succeeds they will get help from that nation. A Polish General known for hatinf communism fighting on the side of the French commune said: "Wherever there is an opressed group and a stroger opressor. it is part of being Polish that you fight for the opressed." Of course that was a very flawed way of thinking. There were cases where when an uprising started, people who did not want it joined in. because it felt "unpolish" to not join the uprising. In the end I think it was more of a moral thing. The people of Haiti were in the same situation of the Polish soldiers; the Polish soldiers instead of saving their ocuntry were sent to opress another, making them the agressors and occupants which wen't against the philosyphy they were raised in. Telling a Pole to stop an uprising of people against their overlord is like telling a muslim to go on a crussade. it won't work out because of ideological differences. (at the time)
I am a New Orleans tour guide and have been telling my version of this story for twenty years. "I know what you're thinking,'...this is a recipe for permanent social stability.'" I almost snarfed my beer!!!! Good job sir!
I am seriously just impressed by this man, this is my first time watching his video (because I hv a History test tmrrw and a friend told about this UA-cam channel called 'Crash Course') and he tried his best to express to us a short run through of the HR and all it's "gruesomeness" and his opinions AND explained briefly and linked it to other Historic moments in life. He spoke with such intelligence and even though this was from 2012 and it's 2017, I still feel as if he was right in front of me. And at the end of the video, when he said his name was John Green... I literally dropped my phone on my face. John Green! As in the dude that wrote two of my fav books/movies: The Fault in our Stars and Paper Towns!! WOW. As soon as the vid finished, I immediately liked the vid and subscribed and I encourage you to do so too. Thank you John Green!
The videos of yours i've seen are amazing. funny accurate enough, and free. You guys are really doing a service, I like every video I watch. thanks, keep it up!
I never realized how significant Haiti is. They had the most successful slave revolt in history. They put an end to Napoleon's expansion in the Americas. It was a country that became a place for oppressed and enslaved peoples.
Carlson Gerelus could've mentioned that Haiti genocided all french speaking whites on the island leading to the imposition of the debt in the first place :^)
You're a really good person for speaking not only the truth but facts as well. Hopefully it puts the US and France's policies towards Haiti since then in perspective for everyone
"I know what your saying, this was a recipe for permanent social stability..." I love you John Green, your wit and sarcasm make these videos far more than informational, they are genuinely entertaining.
Dominican Here! This video is rather accurate but omits several details. First of all. The French came to conquer the western third of Santo Domingo after Spain Abandoned this part due to the illegal trade with French and British pirates due to the existing monopoly between Spain and its Colonies. Its rule was only acknowledged after the Settlement of the Nine Years war called the treaty of Ryswick of 1697. French dominion of the Spanish two thirds of the Island of Santo Domingo came to be when Spain ceded the colony to France in the Treaty of Basel in 1795 and lasted until 1809 when the Dominicans revolted and we chose to become Spaniards again until 1821 when we declared our first independence but it was thwarted by Haiti in less than two months after declared.
👏👏👏 I've seen many Dominicans here falsifying information to paint a narrative of Haitian Brutality and Dominican courage/victimhood. Luckily, people are barely noticing their comments. It's good to see somebody giving the unbiased truth.
I’m not Haitian but I’m proud of Haiti ❤️❤️✊🏾✊🏽✊🏿 They did it for all of our ansestors much love the inspired other enslaved people to fight back and gave them pride. So proud of u Haiti ❤️❤️❤️ THANK U
John, Thanks for making these videos. I was able to use this one to help get a baseline knowledge of Haiti's history for a group going there on a mission trip this spring. Keep sharing knowledge!
It's a shame that the comments section on these videos are mostly useless; almost every comment is either calling the whole video out as slander and lies, or people viciously telling those last guys to go die or something. Bleh.
I'm so happy right now!!! I'm finishing my Master's in History and my professor just linked this video in her PowerPoint! I've been talking about this program to my colleagues and professors since it started and I'm so happy that it's being used in one of my classes!!
I am currently writing a paper at the University of Stockholm about the pantheon of gods in vodou related to women of mixed heritage during the revolutionary period of colonialist Haiti. As a student it would be very helpful if the crashcourse videos had a reference-system where the sources of information was collected in a way so that it is easily accessible to the viewer. I am guessing that this work is already made since research had to be done to create the video in the first place, which is why it would be helpful to have. See, I can't use this info in an academic text because I can't point to where the information was found. I realize that crash course is mainly about education on a different level than an academic one, but regardless the need of source-information is crucial in any educational endeavor. I trust you John, but that's just not enough for my professors. Looking forward to more CrashCourse videos, and take care! //Elin
fun fact in 1822 haiti actually invaded the eastern side of santo domingo and united the island for twenty years. Simone Bolivar even got some assistance from the president of haiti at that time to help with the revolution going on in Venezuela in exchange that he would free the slaves their also.
you kinda missed the part where the trading nations (Western) embargoed Haiti until they agreed to pay reparations to France for the loss of the colony. Driving them into poverty that still exists!
Or when they took the whole Island with the excuse of liberating Dominicans from Spain and then kill and slaving their people for 22 years after that they fought back and almost exterminated the Haitians if it wasn't for the feeling of mercy.
I used to be watching Crash Course back in the day with just the guy. Now I don't see him in any new videos anymore. What happened? Where is he now? Someone please tell me.
"...the Hatians, more than any other people in the age of revolutions, stood up for the idea that NONE should be slaves...Haiti stood up for the weak when the rest of the world failed to. The next time you read about Haiti's poverty, remember that". Well said
I find that part to be quite the romance... They didnt "stand up for the weak", not even for an idea, they stood up to free themselves! Which is absolutely righteous, it goes without saying,
They were basically all slaves, and the motivation behind the uprising was to be free. If 90% of them were free men, and 10% were slaves, I bet my ass that there would not have been any revolution at all.
Tell that to Jean-Pierre Boyer in 1822 xD
@Vlad the guru haitians didn't do anything for the slaves Bahamas and Jamaica.
I got chills
@Stanley Dougé yes tell us dominicans how they stood for us when they killed our women and children during the Moca Massacre or the 22 year occupation of DR where dominicans were treated worse than slaves.
I am a history teacher here in Brazil and my city has receive a lot of haitian refugee over the years. Unfortunelly they are marginalized and my students (even though they are also poor) imitate the prejudice against the haitians. I decided to have ONE single lesson about the Haiti Revolution (which it is a part in the official curriculum) and it was amazing, the kids now have a totally different view about the island and its people. Thank you for this episode.
Even in other french island in Caribbean who share a part of this history before 1804 clearly discriminate a lot Haitians like dogs
Martinique
Guadeloupe
St Martin
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Thank you for teaching truth
I am Haitian living in Brazil, I think you should read the black Jacobins you'll learn a little bit more about the Haitian revolution.
Much respect ✊🏾
@@247gaminghotline , not just Florida, New York too.
I am Hatian. All the countries failed while mine stood up and was the first country to be ruled by African descendants. Really proud to be Hatian.
Brittany Louime That’s because they kept bringing more and more of you in.
@Blue Lava a person form Haiti ?
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But...youguys got screwed after the revolution economically and socially...i rather be a gullah geechee since they actually thrived untouched for the most part.
Biomorph shut up
I'm a Filipino living in Hong Kong and this is one of my favorite episodes in this series. It's very enlightening and powerful especially to people like me living on the other side of the world. I'm also one of those who googled for "Why Haiti is so poor" and this reminds me that it's really important to know history in order to put things into perspective.
It’s great you’ve taken an interest in Haiti’s history. Hopefully you’ve come across reputable sources. This young man didn’t fully describe the true revolution of Haiti, you’ll have to do a bit more research for that. As to why is Haiti so poor, it is because since the revolution ‘till now the French and the American governments have saddled Haiti with debts, imposed sanctions and embargo on the country; they’ve meddled in Haiti’s elections, putting into power those who agree to do the French and American governments’ biddings, those governments are behind a lot of coup d’etat that’s occurred in Haiti and assisted in the deaths of many political leaders who wanted good for the Haitian people. Please do the research, the information is out there, we just gotta do some work to get to it.
As a Haitian, I will admit, what happened after the Revolution was pure evil. But I think if you ask any Haitian, would they rather be the Mecca of the Caribbean vs Being Known as the first Independent black nation, I am sure we would rather the latter. We are not people conditioned to see wealth over dignity. Our pride runs deep. We are very spiritual people, so we rather be dead than spiritually dead. Slavery sucked the spirit out of our people and we grew tired of it. If you go to Haiti you see AFRICA. Yes you will see a mixture of French which makes it Kreyol culture (not to be confused with Creole in New Orleans), but for the most part we are very proud of our African features, African music, and African spirit. No one can take that away from us. We are economically poor but spiritually rich. It feels really good to be Haitian and I want to let the world know we are very proud people.
Yes indeed yes!
Jess JayEel Forgive my ignorance. I have never paid attention to that part of the world but ever since I have watched that video and read your words, Haiti's love has ingrained deep down in my heart
Jess JayEel ( I know this post is from a while ago)
But did you mean the first free Black Nation in the Americas, because the scramble for Africa didn't even happen by the time Haiti became an independent country and there were dozens of nations spread throughout the African continent during the Revolution.
+Jess JayEel no. you don't see Africa.
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An African.
+Jonathon von Tischner Religion in Haiti includes both West African Voodoo and Christianity. The traditionalists have no problem with the two coexisting, while the Christians have frequently tried to suppress the other side as "Book" religions often will. As the likes of Anders Breivik or David Gunn should remind you, Christians can be pretty darn dangerous.
That ending was pretty intense.
Hell it is.
It was stupid
how
John Green says "Haiti stood up for the weak when the world failed too" so was all the murdering of women and children during the 1804 "standing up for the weak"?
The French were the ones murdering women and children. 8:57
John: Dear disease, why do you always put yourself at the center of human history?
Coronavirus: :((
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Teacher sent me here for a HiStOrY aSsiGnMeNt lmao
Haity independance didnt come cheap , france required a payment for them to accept the independence it took almost 90 years to pay that debt which impoverished Haiti even more
Lionel Tapsoba well technically something like 140 years or so because it continued to 1947 with having to pay both the French and the US.
Lionel Tapsoba What really impoverished HAITI to this very day is the MAJOR countries ignoring and punishing HAITI for revolting.
I say Make HAITI GREAT!!
We can to it.
Make it our vacation and retirement Mecca!!
donttrytokillme1231 - STFU-pig skin.
donttrytokillme1231 why is that?
Haiti shouldn't have gave the French a dime 😭
The Haitian Revolution, as this video states, has always been ignored or unrecognized. So thank you crash course for giving the correct interpretation of Haiti's history and its extraordinary moment of independence. I'm proud to be a Haitian !
This is one of my favourite episodes of crash course. It really spoke to me about true civil rights. The Haitians were such brave people to stand against France purely based on the idea of freedom. They fought for it and achieved it.
As a Dominican myself, I admire Haitian people by their history and their African heritage we share #respect
Newton_SE +1
It's the very first time I hear a Dominican even acknowlegding "africa" ...
I admire it too, except for when they attacked the Dominicans about 35 years later
@@mandiwifeyTrust me most dominicans are very aware of our african ancestry. But also of our taino and european ancestry; that´s what most people saying "dominicans deny they are black" don´t understand.
@Saeed B. So I must hate one part of my ancestry and totally ignore it? I have african, european and taino ancestry, and I´m really proud of it. I won´t tell you there wasn´t slavery, or that the Spanish did horrible things to the natives, but the mixing here happened very diferent here, and ended up with a very homogeneous population. There are a few books I can recomend you if you want to understand it better
Thank you infinitely for this episode. I’m a Haitian-American doing history homework with my son. There Is one full page devoted to the institution of slavery in the entire US history 1 textbook, and absolutely no mention of the Haitian Revolution or its role in significance within American history. So thank you for covering this and thank you for being willing to point out the inevitable correlation between Haiti’s current trials and it’s history of slavery and revolution.
I just want to say, THANK YOU JOHN GREEN!!!!(and Raoul Meyer and Danica and thoughtbubble). So many people fail to recognize Haitian contributions to the development of the Americas. your speech at the end was so eloquent and beautiful. I'm glad that you could acknowledge the state of the country today, and respect Haiti's history.
Haiti has got a damn interesting history...
Naŋ Ĭļĕÿ no u
Thank you so much for making this video. I'm Haitian, though I was born in and live in the US. My mother was born and raised in Haiti. I'm glad to see that there are videos about Haiti's accomplishments. Most people seem to only know about the disasters that have strikes it.
I feel really bad for Haitians now. They were revolutionary in their time and now they have all sorts of natural disasters and poverty.
God hates Haiti.
François Royal you so silly. there is no God
God doesn't hate anyone. Of course you would say that. Your dislike of haiti, you are vaguely saying god hates haiti due to your dislike of Haiti. Example, if you disliked asians, you would say god hates china. You are making vague points that don't make sense. You can't state things like this.
I see what you mean. But there are other countries with bad history as well. Others would be included. But you do have a point. My country does have a history but others have a bad history also.
More like the west and European countries hate Haiti. It isn't mentioned all the Western powers refused to recognize and trade with Haiti. France actually returned with a better equipped army years later and demanded it be payed 150 million francs for all the slaves and territory it lost, of course Haitians refused, but eventually without help from anyone they had to succumb to France's demands. This cost Haiti schools and other things that would help its infrastructure. Later, in 1914 the U.S. actually invaded as well and took all of it's gold and ever since then it has basically picked all of Haiti's rulers. Don't believe me, just look it up. There's a lot of things people don't know and the truth is sick.
Yes!! I'm so content that I am Haitian and I am proud of what my ancestors have done to fight for justice and independence!
I'm a first-time grad student TA helping a professor redesign her history course and writing all the section lesson plans, and I just made a note to show this in class at the end of the section about the Haitian Revolutions. Thanks, John, for the wonderful and insightful video!
Guys, these are 10 minute videos on large historical subjects. of course he cant mention everything. This is supposed to be a crash course on the subject, an introduction. not an in depth detailed explanation.
umidontno040394 It does not take an in depth detailed explanation to at least mention the 1804 genocide.
François Royal but, it might to get a good picture of it.and a viewer might get the wrong impression or something.
idk. just saying its hard to squeeze everything about a big historical event into a 10 minute video. he's missed tons of other things on other videos as well. but, it is an introduction to the subject, so that is fine. if it were more in depth, than yes. it should be mentioned.
umidontno040394 The fact that he didn't put it in the video is insulting.
François Royal i dont think he meant to insult anyone. just to give an intro to the subject. i knew almost nothing about Haitian History before i watched this so i learned stuff. I then did more of my own research so yeah.
if this was a more in depth video like maybe 30 minutes. then yeah, it would be insulting not to mention it.
François Royal alright be all angry about it if you want.
I am proud to be Haitian :)
Lmao, you're proud? 70% of your country lives in poverty, half of kids don't go to school, and the average life expectancy is 65 years old
So???? I'm Dominican and I would be proud as well. Your country is your country, no matter what the circumstances are. Him saying he's proud is him saying that he actually CARES for what happens to his country, and that is nothing but admirable.
Michael Dante stfu
The wise Indian Hell Yeah :D
The Wise Crusader Not me.
I fell in love with Crash Course even more. They talking about my COUNTRY. Ayiti Cheri
Haitian Revolutions invlove two of my very favourite things: 1. ending slavery and 2. Napoleon getting his feelings hurt
lol
I honestly thought he was going to say 2. genocide of white French people for a second.
@@mankytoes why tho wtf
I thought he was gonna say 2. getting more rights for women.
@@weegeearmy1391 He is a white nationalist missing black slavery.
@@mankytoes You can't genocide French people outside of France. Hilter and Rawanda tried to commit genocide.
Even though the Haitian Revolution will continue to get short shrift, thank you for your effort at emphasizing how much it matters to the world.
You know, one of my history teachers said that the 2010 earthquake in Haiti was God's punishment for the Haitian rebellion. Looking back, that was a really messed up thing to tell a bunch of high schoolers....
Wow how old were you when he said this? That was incorrect and unprofessional for a teacher to say.
Do you live in France?
dubreil07 It was either freshman or sophomore year of high school so...14 or 15? And I mean this guy also replied "What?" in class whenever someone said "Oh my God" or anything like that. He had an odd sense of humor, but really not a bad guy. And Ali Raza no, at the time I lived in Virginia. Why do you ask?
JazzyNym Since the French were the ones at the wrong end of the Haitian revolution, I thought your teacher was probably French.
French don't care about Haiti, merely heard of it. It's just a former colony like there are dozens other
10 years later, and I'm still watching these videos. Thanks to the whole CrashCourse team for a decade of history knowledge (which I use to study for tests, lol)
John Green always knows the best and most dramatic ways to end his episodes.
In America, conservatives consider reparations for slavery to be ridiculous since it happened a long time ago. Yet Haiti was forced to pay the USA and France billions in *'reparations' for freeing the slaves*, This continued all the way until 1947.
mshara1 GREAT POINT
And most Constitutional Conservatives today were not around in 1947. Slavery of any race is a horrible institution, bottom line. It still goes on in Asia and the Middle East however, even if it's more of an underground business now.
Tj N it's still prevalent in Africa to bruh. 😔
how arent they? or the people they taught and influenced still around? lmaoooo delusional
Tj N you forget to mention AFRICA it wasn't just Europeans who enslaved Africans it was Arabs and Asians.....africans didn't enslave others....
its crazy to see people downing Haiti in the comments for killing the people who kidnapped them against their will! Americans killed Natives for no reason but that's okay? wth
There is no excuse for such genocidal acts.
François Royal i can tell you hate haiti
Nkosi Carter-Fisher With good reasoning.
which is?
They're only downing Haiti because most of the population is black.
My husband, who was raised in Haiti, absolutely loved this episode and said he learned more from it than he did from schooling in Haiti.
Sak pase! Shout out to my fellow Haitians. Never forget that we got warrior blood!
Jason Tanujaya Nice try.
:)
Jason Tanujaya :)
+Xzodia Yin Zero Thanks Haitian people for contributing to the foundation of my home state, Missouri. Wooo!
EDIT: To clarify, because the Haitian revolution is why the Louisiana Purchase occurred, which is what the State of Missouri formed from.
Erik Nielsen lol
+Erik Nielsen true
I love how John Green can make something that should be tedious and confusing, easy to remember and giggle-worthy.
I honestly think that CrashCourse history is the best thing that ever happened to me that's history-related! It makes everything so much easier to understand and serves as a great review for me. Because of this series, I can not only understand but REMEMBER everything that I learn. My teacher even uses some of these videos in class. It is such a great help to me!!
Much Respect to my neighboring country Haiti 🙌🏼💪🏻🇭🇹
*SHOUT OUT TO ALL MY HAITIANS OUT THERE*
The only reason anyone is mentioning that Haitian Massacre is because
A: They know a fact omitted, and feel clever for correcting it.
B: That for some reason they want to paint Haitians as brutal rather than reactionary.
I just clear don't understand the point.
If you enforce slavery on people, with skin colour being the deciding factor, then you simply cannot be surprised when they apply that logic back when the situation reverses.
Yes the killing of women and children is a crime, however from a psychological point of view, the treatment of these people in such a way would have more than likely resulted in PTSD and other such psychological traumas that damaged them. This results in a mental state where human life is no longer valued in the same way, therefore leading to the situation where a massacre could take place.
Again as a direct result of the psychological repercussions of slavery.
TheAwillz true
TheAwillz oh gee guess that’s why they forced white women to marry black men or face death. So whites in the island would go extinct. That was just reaction to what the slave owners did. Oh wait except they didn’t.
"Yes the killing of women and children is a crime"
Actually no, it was justified. Women are not innocent just because they have vaginas and the children would just grow up to become slave owners themselves. They are all part of the same system, and thus were the enemy. Their actions were entirely logical.
Malamockq by just reading your comment its clear to me that you are sick in your mind.
+Emilio This troll is following me around now because I humiliated it in another comment thread. How pathetic. Ad hominems are a good way to discredit your position and reveal that you have no intellectual arguments. Like most racists, you don't like facts and are biased. Rationalizing and defending slavery is far more sick, if you want to view a sick person, look in the mirror.
awesome way to end this video. It recognizes the value of the Haitian Revolution in history.
That they fight for freedom but do nothing with it...
alejandromolinac you need to do some research
What, founding a nation that is currently a shithole run by corrupt people who know nothing about economics or safety?
Thanks Crash Course for letting the story of my country be told.
Honestly I feel like presenting such a reduced condensed version of history can do more harm than good. There was so much more to Toussaint than just a guy who "wasn't actually that popular". You can at least put some references and further readings in the description. You can at least *mention* CLR James's Black Jacobins, the most important book on the Haitian revolution, one of the most important history books period. I don't know why I'm writing this about a 7 year old video like it's gonna change anything, but KIDS WATCHING THIS, THIS VIDEO IS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH PLEASE READ THE BLACK JACOBINS
Obviously you ween't able to give the full scope of Haiti's story in this 12 minute video, but overall you guys do a great job! Thanks for this video on Haiti's overlooked history.
I've checked a couple of crashcourse videos over the years but I made the decision to subscribe after watching this one! It's by far the most exhaustive and accurate tale of the haitian revolution online! Bravo!!
We watched this in world history because one of my friends recommended it to my teacher! I WAS SO HAPPY TO SEE THIS! WOO, JOHN GREEN! :)
That ending chokes me up every time I watch this. All five or six times.
2:15 the first dab
+Abaip noooooo omg
I've been watching the World History playlist for a few weeks now off and on, and this episode has been the most captivating for some reason. When Louverture is arrested and dies in prison I had to stop the video to lament, almost like a George R.R. Martin twist. I've never heard this story before, very interesting and inspiring, well done!
Also interesting to note: In 1825 (I think) France demanded Haiti pay for their independence to compensate for the former's economic and military losses in "granting" independence. Haiti paid that debt and in doing so amassed more debt from foreign banks, losing revenue that could have been used for other things thereby contributing to the poverty today. In the early 2000s, the Haitian gov't demanded reparations for this and received none.
"I can't help myself, Napoleon, I like to see you suffer."
*BDSM intensifies*
So I'm going to suggest something a little crazy here. I know this is the internet and all, but perhaps, just perhaps, this video could be used as a jumping off point for discussing the history of the Haitian revolution. You know, as John would say, imagining history complexly. Because it is complex. I'm sure there's tons of incredibly important material John and the Crash Course crew didn't include. Quite a bit of it I'm sure they wish they could have. No matter the reason, I doubt very much if any of the Crash Course crew would be offended if people in the comments took the opportunity to tell those sides of the story. In fact, I imagine they'd be delighted. And perhaps you'd get an audience to your point of view that's already demonstrably ready to learn more about history.
Or, you know, accuse them of whitewashing history and carry on screaming at each other.
Thats........smart.
Dear brothers, I cant thank you enough for providing us college kids and other kids with these videos. I just got out of my History 112 class in my college and thanks to this video i answered 2 questions right for sure. this was the one topic we had not discussed and we were left on our own for finding the information. Thank you for this video.
Finally! An interesting and obscure topic for my research project!
You forgot to mention one random trivia fact:
Napoleon sen't Polish troops to haiti which worked for them in exchange for him promising to restore Poland after conquering Germany.
But seeing as how simmilar the situation of people from haitit are to Poles under german/Russian/Austrian rule.
Most of the sen't Polish soldiers joined the rebbels and helped them defeat the french.
There was no that much of them, but there are now a lot of Haitians which have polish surnames. Though there is no Polish cultural influence.
Vjorp not true brother it is known that when napoleon soldiers arrived in Haiti and realize that they alone defeated the French in other part of the country some of them decided to join the slave to fight against the French there is a similar story in Europe where the one side admire their enemy tactics and chose to join them. They were coming to reestablish slaveravery in the island
What you are wrong about is one thing though.
Poles were unwilling to go to Haiti, they wanted to fight Germans and Russians and free their homeland.
Not to mention that unlike other parts of europe slavery was considered barbaric and inhuman in Poland.
1. Because Poles and other slavs were once wery often sold as slaves.
2. Poles were very believing catholics and the catholic church condemned slavery. (yes they actually did)
3. At the time Poland was occupied by foreign forces, they they had a very big sentiment towards other opressed groups.
You might now know bu Poles were very desperate at the time. Desperate to the point that Polish fighters and Generals participated in random revolutions around europe in hopes that if the revolution succeeds they will get help from that nation.
A Polish General known for hatinf communism fighting on the side of the French commune said:
"Wherever there is an opressed group and a stroger opressor. it is part of being Polish that you fight for the opressed."
Of course that was a very flawed way of thinking. There were cases where when an uprising started, people who did not want it joined in. because it felt "unpolish" to not join the uprising.
In the end I think it was more of a moral thing.
The people of Haiti were in the same situation of the Polish soldiers; the Polish soldiers instead of saving their ocuntry were sent to opress another, making them the agressors and occupants which wen't against the philosyphy they were raised in.
Telling a Pole to stop an uprising of people against their overlord is like telling a muslim to go on a crussade. it won't work out because of ideological differences. (at the time)
You make a video on Egypt, China, Rome, Greece and Haiti. The worlds greatest game changers.
I love you!
+Polandball Historian. You forgot France.
I am a New Orleans tour guide and have been telling my version of this story for twenty years. "I know what you're thinking,'...this is a recipe for permanent social stability.'" I almost snarfed my beer!!!! Good job sir!
Fantastic. My favorite episode of CC World History, and my favorite revolution.
Also my favorite revolution.
We have good taste in revolutions.
remember that the poverty Ayiti has suffered is and has been produced and maintained by American and European interests.
Love the closing sentences. Most moving episode of the series so far...
I am seriously just impressed by this man, this is my first time watching his video (because I hv a History test tmrrw and a friend told about this UA-cam channel called 'Crash Course') and he tried his best to express to us a short run through of the HR and all it's "gruesomeness" and his opinions AND explained briefly and linked it to other Historic moments in life. He spoke with such intelligence and even though this was from 2012 and it's 2017, I still feel as if he was right in front of me. And at the end of the video, when he said his name was John Green... I literally dropped my phone on my face. John Green! As in the dude that wrote two of my fav books/movies: The Fault in our Stars and Paper Towns!! WOW. As soon as the vid finished, I immediately liked the vid and subscribed and I encourage you to do so too. Thank you John Green!
favorite episode so far! keep up the great work guys! you guys rock!
Yo gotta give props to my Haitian sisters and brothers for pretty much chamging the world! Love from a Nigerian guy from Canada!
Dear Crash Course,
You made an error in when Napoleon took power. It was in 1799 not 1779 ( 7:47) It seems to be Thought Bubble's fault
The videos of yours i've seen are amazing. funny accurate enough, and free. You guys are really doing a service, I like every video I watch. thanks, keep it up!
I never realized how significant Haiti is. They had the most successful slave revolt in history. They put an end to Napoleon's expansion in the Americas. It was a country that became a place for oppressed and enslaved peoples.
the first modern nation state to be governed by people of african decent? That does sound fucking important..
aotero u Thank you for that little detail! I'm going to research that right now!! :-)
aotero u thank you very much.
thanks for the explanation. Both of my parents are haitian so the comment you made at the end was very appreciated.
Could've also said how Haiti was forced to pay a heavy ransom by France because they gained their independence and took almost 100 years to pay off.
Carlson Gerelus could've mentioned that Haiti genocided all french speaking whites on the island leading to the imposition of the debt in the first place :^)
You're a really good person for speaking not only the truth but facts as well. Hopefully it puts the US and France's policies towards Haiti since then in perspective for everyone
louverture sounds like a pretty awesome badass
I give you a thumbs ups!!! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👐🏾 for acutely portraying the Haitian 🇭🇹 revolution!!! Thank you 😊
*Can you do the history of relationship between Haiti and the Dominican Republic?*
"I know what your saying, this was a recipe for permanent social stability..." I love you John Green, your wit and sarcasm make these videos far more than informational, they are genuinely entertaining.
Dominican Here! This video is rather accurate but omits several details. First of all. The French came to conquer the western third of Santo Domingo after Spain Abandoned this part due to the illegal trade with French and British pirates due to the existing monopoly between Spain and its Colonies. Its rule was only acknowledged after the Settlement of the Nine Years war called the treaty of Ryswick of 1697. French dominion of the Spanish two thirds of the Island of Santo Domingo came to be when Spain ceded the colony to France in the Treaty of Basel in 1795 and lasted until 1809 when the Dominicans revolted and we chose to become Spaniards again until 1821 when we declared our first independence but it was thwarted by Haiti in less than two months after declared.
👏👏👏
I've seen many Dominicans here falsifying information to paint a narrative of Haitian Brutality and Dominican courage/victimhood. Luckily, people are barely noticing their comments.
It's good to see somebody giving the unbiased truth.
I’m not Haitian but I’m proud of Haiti ❤️❤️✊🏾✊🏽✊🏿 They did it for all of our ansestors much love the inspired other enslaved people to fight back and gave them pride. So proud of u Haiti ❤️❤️❤️ THANK U
7:45 in the upper-right corner it says 1779 instead of 1799
Caught that too
Nice avatar
John,
Thanks for making these videos. I was able to use this one to help get a baseline knowledge of Haiti's history for a group going there on a mission trip this spring.
Keep sharing knowledge!
Great video
You forgot to mention Haiti still had to pay debt to France for the "lost earnings" of the slave owners.
I’m proud us Poles assisted in the Haitian fight for freedom.
I'm so stuck in the past and depressed that I binge on history videos
It's a shame that the comments section on these videos are mostly useless; almost every comment is either calling the whole video out as slander and lies, or people viciously telling those last guys to go die or something.
Bleh.
You should try wiki talk pages then. Sometimes it can get a bit youtuby but at least you feel like out of 1st grade.
There is massive bias by John Green though...
I'm Haitian, so I'm learning so much!!
Thanks bro proud to b Haitian
I'm so happy right now!!! I'm finishing my Master's in History and my professor just linked this video in her PowerPoint! I've been talking about this program to my colleagues and professors since it started and I'm so happy that it's being used in one of my classes!!
8:33 Shawshank Redemption reference
Good eye
This was so useful in the AP exam. God bless you.
I love that we get recognized 👏
I am currently writing a paper at the University of Stockholm about the pantheon of gods in vodou related to women of mixed heritage during the revolutionary period of colonialist Haiti. As a student it would be very helpful if the crashcourse videos had a reference-system where the sources of information was collected in a way so that it is easily accessible to the viewer. I am guessing that this work is already made since research had to be done to create the video in the first place, which is why it would be helpful to have. See, I can't use this info in an academic text because I can't point to where the information was found.
I realize that crash course is mainly about education on a different level than an academic one, but regardless the need of source-information is crucial in any educational endeavor. I trust you John, but that's just not enough for my professors.
Looking forward to more CrashCourse videos, and take care!
//Elin
wow really cool document mister
fun fact in 1822 haiti actually invaded the eastern side of santo domingo and united the island for twenty years. Simone Bolivar even got some assistance from the president of haiti at that time to help with the revolution going on in Venezuela in exchange that he would free the slaves their also.
Why didn't you mention the massive amount of money that France demanded from Haiti in 1825?
I wish he did go into that. Kind of explains why they're so in debt today.
beeing as old as you are, rewatching videos from 8 years ago makes me wonder if i also looked that cutely young back then
you kinda missed the part where the trading nations (Western) embargoed Haiti until they agreed to pay reparations to France for the loss of the colony. Driving them into poverty that still exists!
Or when they took the whole Island with the excuse of liberating Dominicans from Spain and then kill and slaving their people for 22 years after that they fought back and almost exterminated the Haitians if it wasn't for the feeling of mercy.
You haven't lived until you watch this video with the subtitles turned on.
I used to be watching Crash Course back in the day with just the guy. Now I don't see him in any new videos anymore. What happened? Where is he now? Someone please tell me.
Loved the video at the end and the beautiful message at the end before the outro.
And where are the mongols? They are the stars of the show
Probably number 7.
you misspelled 1
They're not in this episode....
Not even gonna lie....this video rocks
Thank you crash course, I appreciate you guys so damn much.
Merci Pour cette vidéo. JE vous salue et vous remercie vivement pour mes ancêtres. Que Dieu vous bénisse!
I love this guy know do more chats about Haiti 🇭🇹 plz like if u agree
Aimé Césaire wrote a very interesting piece on the Haitian Revolution, btw
Thank you so much for giving me something new to be interested in.
I LOVE CRASH COURSE WORLD HISTORY!!!!