Its summer, I have no school, no tests, there is absolutely no reason I should be watching this. However I'm a sad person and I watch these for entertainment.
Watching them because you enjoy them is a much better reason than because some random person or teacher told you to. It's not at all sad if you enjoy it. What could be sad about that?
As a history teacher, I am always really enthusiastic about these videos. However, today, one of my students, Leonardo, pointed that he was pretty sure that Constantine was born in Serbia. Actually, in Leo's natve town of Niš. I tought I would mention it... :)
The irony is that you showed those two different architectures at proof of how the byzantine empire differentiates from the western empire while both buildings have Greek origin.
lmao the Pantheon is probably the most Roman temple in the world. it is a fantastic synthesis of latin, greek and etruscan architecture, a perfect example of the syncretic nature of Roman civilisation, which learnt and reinterpreted everything it came across with
@@michaelgamba7674 if only it was the original Pantheon. Luckily the one Hadrian built survived the test of time...and didn't suffer a fiery death haha
Hilarious, and enlightening. I did not believe history can be so enthralling to learn, and so educational as well. Thank you and your team so much for this. Prayers and best wishes from Bangladesh!
If people want to argue that Rome fell when the Western Empire fell. Feel free to comment here and we'll discuss it. However, I believe that it fell in 1453 when the Ottoman Turks lead by Mehmet II took over Constantinople. They lost for two major reasons. 1. Several years earlier when Pope Innocent III called for the fourth Crusade. Now you (for those who don't know) might be wondering why this mattered? The Crusades were to attack the land of Canaan and Jerusalem, right? Wrong. The fourth Crusade ran out of money so they decided to sack Constantinople. The weakened Constantinople could still fight off major armies, except.... 2. Except for the invention of artillery. The Ottoman Turks had besieged Constantinople twice before winning. The first time they were held off even though they outnumbered there enemies 10 to 1 (8k to 80k). The second time they were held off again. Mehmet II's army was on the verge of routing and Mehmet needed a spur of the moment, brilliance. Now, before this moment, the Romans (Byzantines) had held off every attack. The Romans had the Bosporus into the Golden Horn River (strait of Bosphorus) blocked off with a chain. Mehmet losing for this very reason (some argue indirectly), dismantled his ships, and dragged the pieces to the other side of the chain and rebuilt the ships. Now the Romans were surrounded. With victory in sight. Mehmet aimed all of his cannons at one spot and let his warriors loose. Rome, my friends, has now fallen. The Emperor (Constantine XI Palaiologos) with disbelief that the Roman Empire was falling, was last seen throwing himself into battle. I don't know why none of this was included...
9:09 Hagia Sophia is not a mosque at the moment. It used to be a mosque during the reign of the Ottoman Empire. However, after the Turkish Republic was established it was turned into a museum so that believers of both faiths can visit freely and without intimidation.
For anyone wondering why John thanked Thought Bubble for putting he and Stan in the Green side, the Green side during the Nica Riots was the side that lived after Justinian called out the army.
I must’ve watched this 10 times and I just noticed the not-so-subtle dig at the college girlfriend. Nicely done. I can imagine John calling the folks at the animation studio and saying “put the college gf animation up on the screen when I talk about adultery... JUST DO IT!!”
Day 12 of social distancing. I graduated high school two years ago. I'm not in college and have no reason to be watching this. But the quarantine boredom is hitting hard. So here we are.
I am a Roman Catholic. We view the Orthodox Church as legitimate, and they view us the same way. There is the leadership issue is there, and the split was caused by un-diplomatic people rather than a real issue with Church teaching.
Another funny thing I noticed at this timestamp as well was that if you look the woman in the back has her drink disappear and before it switches frames multiple characters vaporize.
This is brilliant. While I'm well past the years of needing to know this information for a test or similar, I do enjoy still reading about and refreshing my memory on various topics in history and this is a great format for it. Love the animation as it is eye pleasing, but wish you'd tell more if the story through animation. That would make a great thing even better. Congratulations on earning a new subscriber ;)
racine0486 Nah man. You have to consider steps between as well. First the Monarchy, then the Republic and then the Empire. If you are speaking of Rome alone, then it most certainly died before 1953 and fall of Constantinople. Around 900 AD. Byzantine resembled more a medieval version of Greek than a Roman state. Still, awesome running time.
Beau Bassett yeah lets liberate the city of 15 million muslims and make it an orthodox city, sounds perfectly logical to me. And it is not racist idea at all. I wish you knew a little bit more about history.
Thanks for making these videos they're really nice and have kept me alive in way. :) They're well made videos and you guys do a job of making them. I appreciate them.
no he is incorrect the Roman empire did fall, the eastern empire went on through the crusades. they spoke greek in the eastern empire and considered themselves more greek not Roman.
SIEGE He was the Pontifex Maximus, head of the Roman priesthood before they converted to Christianity. That's why the Pope is sometimes called a pontiff.
Hagia Sophia is not a mosque now! That's such a huge mistake. It has been turned to a museum in 1935, shortly after the foundation of the Turkish Republic and it has remained so ever since.
+Nobblk Praetorian As far as I know, it doesn't really "display" any collection of artifacts. It is just a museum on its own, with all its Roman and Ottoman history on its walls and all.
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Burhan TheSomali The world could actually be vastly different. The reason Europeans searched for new trade routes to India because Constantinople fell to the Ottomans. In other words, the New World may have been never found (or only much later and perhaps by different people) if Constantinople didn't fall to the Ottomans.
Burhan TheSomali The otomans in america sounds like unfunded bullshit and the vikings were not a naval power at the time of the fall of Constantinopla. You forget that the reason for the spanish to send Columbus was to find a new trade rute.
The evidence that the Malians made it to the New World is kinda flimsy and based largely on heresay. We know for a fact the Vikings sailed to the New World, due to the artifacts and abandoned settlements they left behind. I can't speak for the Ottomans, because we'd have to quantify what it meant to 'know' about the New World. Did they speculate there was a large continent out west before anyone else? Because that idea had been around a long time.
True...It lasted another thousand years but not under the Roman rule and government. Roman civilization did end with the fall of Rome. However, the thousand years afterward was ruled by Byzantium and all her domains. When Rome fell, Civilization was shifted by title and rule to Byzantium and Roman civilization became Byzantine civilization. Rome really only ruled for about four hundred years.
It's very interesting how EVERYONE tries and tried to be Rome. The Carolingian Empire, the Holy Roman Empire, the Byzantines, the Rûm, Russia and WW1-era Italy and Mussolini. Even the Ottoman Emperor, when he took Constantinople, proclaimed himself "Caesar of Rome". Personally, I think Byzantium has the most legitimate claim, but still. Also, I could include Prussia and Germany, but they mostly used the Double-Headed Eagle, a symbol of the Western and Eastern Roman Empires.
The Hagia Sophia is actually now a museum, not a mosque! It's located in the "museum"esque district in Turkey and now operates as a museum with a set fare to get in as well as audio guides. They also have removed some of the plaster that covered up Christian mosaics and now the Hagia Sophia is one of the few museums (if not the only one?) that has Christianity and Islam peacefully side by side.
Noor Jehan If it was restored to its former glory then we can say it was fully converted into a museum with its original art restored. And by peacefully you mean one group wanting it back at all cost while the other group still considering itself owning it; then yes peace..... It seems you forget that Hagia Sophia is like St. Peter's Basilica except for the Eastern Orthodox. Imagine if Mecca was conquered by the Hindus and the Mosque made into a Hindu palace. (That's right feel guilty)
Hey Mr. Green! Congrats on this channel. I subcribed to mental floss over a year ago and followed it like religiously. I will follow this one as well. Thanks for putting things like this on youtube and never ever forget to be awesome!!
Great video! I do however, have a few remarks: You didn't mention Basileios II or John Komnenos II, these were also some really interesting and capable Byzantine emperors, in my opinion equal to, or even better emperors than, Justinian. Whether Justinian was that good of an emperor is also debatable, one could argue that he overstretched his armies and funds in the reconquest of Africa and the partial reconquest of Italy, draining the imperial treasury and weakening the empire's military position. His wife Theodora was often able to manipulate him, as were others at his court. He may not have been a real pushover, but he certainly wasn't the strongest (Byzantine) emperor. Christianity also played a strong role in the fall of the Roman empire (not the biggest factor of course, Germanic tribes, civil war and economic crises being the foremost), as it was an exclusivistic religion, instead of a syncretic religion, such as Greco-Roman paganism. This in turn led to strong religious intolerance, widespread persecutions of unbelievers, philosophers and freethinkers, which strongly divided the empire and even reversed scientific and philosophical progress (think about atomism only resurfacing in the 16th century after having been wiped of the face of the earth because it contradicted christian doctrine). Christianity was by far not the hammerblow that crippled the empire, but it is too big a factor to be overlooked. Last point: Whether the Byzantine empire should be considered to be the Roman empire or just a continuation of the Roman empire is also debatable. It could be compared with Charlemagne's Francia and the Kingdom of France. The latter is a continuation of the former, as was the Byzantine empire when compared to the Roman empire. Significant differences in language (Latin vs Greek, and Franconian vs French), administration, architecture, military tactics, cultural identity, etc. are large enough to speak of two distinct sovereign entities. Even though the transition of one to the other took place gradually over time, they are not the same. Sorry for the long read guys, cheers.
on your last point, I disagree. It's all a matter of context. Think of it this way (this is a super simplified version): the Roman empire was this big chunk of land around the Mediterranean. Since it was so big and they had many issues with political and economical stability, they instated the tetrarchy, which means Rome had four simultaneous rulers (two major ones and two "spares"). After that, emperor Theodosius divided the empire between his two sons upon his death. The one who kept the western side was deposed and the one who kept the east side managed to keep his portion of the empire afloat. The "roman" side lost his big political leader, so the church rose as the only institution capable of keeping things sort of together and had to start dealing with Germanic kings and whatnot (think of Charlemagne and the pope and how they needed each other to cement their own authority). On the eastern side, church and politics were much closer together, so things ran rather smoothly for them, with many other important reasons of course, but the point is, they weren't significant differences between the two of them in terms of culture, military tactics and administration, one just "survived" the other until communications through the Balkans were interrupted and each portion had to look out for themselves. Rome had to make do with their new powerful neighbours and Byzantium tried to keep the party going (and they did) until the Ottomans came around. We just call it the Byzantine empire for the sake of clarity, but technically, while both of them went on separate ways, they still are the same thing. At least where late antiquity historiography is concerned.
avalanche170 Yeah, good luck with that. Turkey has too many fanatical muslims in it. Letting them into the EU would be the last straw in handing over Europe to the muslims, who are already proving to be a giant pain in the ass to western civilization thanks to being allowed in and literally protected from criticism by the pissant politically-correct "leaders" whose worst fear in all the world is to be labeled "racist," even though islam, aka PISSlam, is a *religion*, not a race! Even our own feminists won't criticize PISSlam's tradition of female circumcision and its rampant misogyny, because that would be "racist," don'tcha know. Fucking IDIOTS!!
The year 476 as the year of the fall of the Western Empire is not correct. Also, Romulus Augustus was not the last Western Emperor. It is a common, but ultimately incorrect, statement. The last Roman Emperor in the West was Julius Nepos, who was assassinated in Diocletian's Palace in the year 480. Nepos, who was already in control of the province of Dalmatia, was elevated to imperial rank by the Eastern Emperor Leo I in 474. He was married to Leo's niece (or his wife's niece, according to some sources), hence ''Nepos''. In 475 Nepos was deposed by Orestes, a senior military official in Italy, who then appointed his son, Romulus, as the Emperor. Orestes could not have assumed the position himself because of his Germanic origins. His wife, Romulus's mother, on the other hand, was descended from a noble Roman family, thus making her son an acceptable choice for the throne. Of course, Romulus being only 15 or 16 at the time, the real power was in Orestes's hands. Nepos, however, managed to escape to Dalmatia, over which he retained control. He was still considered Emperor of the West by the court in Constantinople, which viewed Romulus as a usurper, which, legally speaking, he was. Meanwhile, back in Italy, Orestes made a terrible mistake of refusing to grant land to Germanic mercenaries in imperial service. They revolted under the leadership of Odoacer, who, after defeating and executing Orestes, quietly deposed Romulus. Because of his youth, and the manner in which he was forced to retire (Odoacer granted him an annual pension of 6000 solidi, and allowed him to live in the Lucullanum villa, in Campania), Romulus was nicknamed ''Augustulus''. He more or less disappeared from history after his deposition, although, there is some evidence which points out that he probably lived past the year 500, in quiet retirement. After deposing Romulus, Odoacer tried to appeal to the Eastern Emperor, Zeno, to acknowledge his rule in Italy. Odoacer managed to gather support from the Roman Senate, and he tried to win Zeno over by styling himself as Zeno's viceroy in Italy. Nevertheless, Zeno, while granting Odoacer the title of Patrician, accepted his rule over Italy only after Odoacer agreed to acknowledge Nepos as his Emperor. Odoacer was not too pleased with this, but he kept his end of the bargain, even issuing coins in Nepos's name. Of course, Nepos's reign in Italy was just symbolic; he only truly had authority over the Dalmatian province. Nepos, however, was plotting to regain actual control of Italy, and Odoacer perceived him as a threat. He was murdered in Diocletian's Palace, in 480, by one of his military commanders by the name of Ovida, probably a German. There are a couple of explanations for the forces behind the assassination. Some argue that the Romans from Dalmatia itself were behind it, because by that point Dalmatia was an isolationist province, and a rather stable one at that, so they were in no mood to endanger that by going to war against Odoacer. Other possible explanations are that the Emperor was murdered under Odoacer's orders, or possibly Glycerius's, who held imperial throne prior to Nepos, but was deposed by him and sent as a bishop to Salona, which is rather close to Diocletian's Palace. I myself am of the opinion that Odoacer was behind it, as it fits perfectly with his ambitious, and highly capable, personality. After all, a German who was capable of winning both the support of the Roman Senate, and the acknowledgment of the Eastern Empire, and at a time when Germanic people were almost universally hated in Italy (during that century the Germans had a habit of sacking Italy, the Romans repaying them by massacring Germanic residents of the peninsula from time to time). Odoacer used the murder of Nepos as a justification to invade Dalmatia, since Nepos was de iure his sovereign. Ovida was killed, several other conspirators executed as well, and Dalmatia was annexed by Odoacer's growing kingdom, and in a such a way that the Eastern Empire could not object to it. With one masterful stroke he got rid of Nepos, and gained a cause to expand his borders, with Ovida paying the price. After that Odoacer styled himself as Zeno's regent in the West, and he even allowed the Roman Senate to continue existing, passing his laws through it. So, interestingly, the Western Senate (there was one in Constantinople as well) actually outlived the Western Empire, through magnanimity of a barbarian, although a cultured one, who was also an able military commander and quite a capable diplomat as well. The Senate was genuinely loyal to him, which is rather ironic considering that they could not muster the same sense of loyalty to their own emperors. The popularity of the notion that Romulus Augustulus was the last Emperor in the West probably has more to do with his name than anything else. Started with Romulus, ended with Romulus.
Well done! I am currently reading Sailing from Byzantium: How a lost Empire Shaped the world. It would be nice to see a video that talked more about the translation of Greek and Roman (Plato, Homer....) texts into Latin before the fall of the Byzantine empire, and including the influence it had on the Renaissance......
OrigamiSage Nish (The western outllands) has been Bulgarian ethnic region since middle ages and during the Ottoman reign until in 1878 the Russians gave it to Serbia for help in the war.Ethnic cleansing followed.
5:34 The emperor Constantine the Great was born in the city of Nissa, which is today called Niš - located in Serbia, *not* Croatia. Diocletian (another very significant emperor) was born in modern-day Croatia, which is how the error probably originated.
This is great! Thank you so much! It makes me think about how similar America is to Rome: vast and lacking a unifying culture. Thank you for this video along with the rest!
Re: Emperor Constantine birth place @ 5:45 Konstantin Veliki je rodjen u Srbiji - Constantine the Great, like 16 other Roman emperors, was born in present-day Serbia ( Naissus - Nis)
Its summer, I have no school, no tests, there is absolutely no reason I should be watching this. However I'm a sad person and I watch these for entertainment.
I do tio
+Kelvin Ubaechu *too
this is what makes you awesome
Watching them because you enjoy them is a much better reason than because some random person or teacher told you to. It's not at all sad if you enjoy it. What could be sad about that?
exactly!
You are the adult version of Blues Clues.
Omg
Omg yes XD
"He was like the David Tenant of doctors" , I love CrashCourse
As a history teacher, I am always really enthusiastic about these videos. However, today, one of my students, Leonardo, pointed that he was pretty sure that Constantine was born in Serbia. Actually, in Leo's natve town of Niš. I tought I would mention it... :)
Hey. I'm a teacher and I'd like to say. You're doing a great job here. Keep it up.
If only my world history class had been this exciting.... I would have actually learned.
I learn more stuff from the internet than school.
+Anon Y. Mous ikr
+Anon Y. Mous same knew shit before being required to know it
you should watch the extra history series on the extra credits channel for more information over justinian
Scools have the unfortunate quality of being the quikest way to stomp out the flame of natural curriosity.
The irony is that you showed those two different architectures at proof of how the byzantine empire differentiates from the western empire while both buildings have Greek origin.
lmao the Pantheon is probably the most Roman temple in the world. it is a fantastic synthesis of latin, greek and etruscan architecture, a perfect example of the syncretic nature of Roman civilisation, which learnt and reinterpreted everything it came across with
@@michaelgamba7674 if only it was the original Pantheon. Luckily the one Hadrian built survived the test of time...and didn't suffer a fiery death haha
Hilarious, and enlightening. I did not believe history can be so enthralling to learn, and so educational as well. Thank you and your team so much for this. Prayers and best wishes from Bangladesh!
If people want to argue that Rome fell when the Western Empire fell. Feel free to comment here and we'll discuss it. However, I believe that it fell in 1453 when the Ottoman Turks lead by Mehmet II took over Constantinople.
They lost for two major reasons.
1. Several years earlier when Pope Innocent III called for the fourth Crusade. Now you (for those who don't know) might be wondering why this mattered? The Crusades were to attack the land of Canaan and Jerusalem, right? Wrong. The fourth Crusade ran out of money so they decided to sack Constantinople. The weakened Constantinople could still fight off major armies, except....
2. Except for the invention of artillery. The Ottoman Turks had besieged Constantinople twice before winning. The first time they were held off even though they outnumbered there enemies 10 to 1 (8k to 80k). The second time they were held off again. Mehmet II's army was on the verge of routing and Mehmet needed a spur of the moment, brilliance. Now, before this moment, the Romans (Byzantines) had held off every attack. The Romans had the Bosporus into the Golden Horn River (strait of Bosphorus) blocked off with a chain. Mehmet losing for this very reason (some argue indirectly), dismantled his ships, and dragged the pieces to the other side of the chain and rebuilt the ships. Now the Romans were surrounded.
With victory in sight. Mehmet aimed all of his cannons at one spot and let his warriors loose. Rome, my friends, has now fallen. The Emperor (Constantine XI Palaiologos) with disbelief that the Roman Empire was falling, was last seen throwing himself into battle.
I don't know why none of this was included...
*Ottoman Turks
727Tolga Ooops. My bad. The Suljuq turks were falling. The rising Ottoman's won. Let me fix it.
Michael T hahah it's fine. but the last selcuk state ended in 1307.
727Tolga Yeah, mixed up my empires... Sorry 'bout that.
***** No. That's not what happened. I explained perfectly why here.
9:09 Hagia Sophia is not a mosque at the moment. It used to be a mosque during the reign of the Ottoman Empire. However, after the Turkish Republic was established it was turned into a museum so that believers of both faiths can visit freely and without intimidation.
+Tunç Öztemir is that cause of Atatürk?
+Robinson Jones it became a museum in 1935 after the decision of the council of ministers. (Ataturk was the president meanwhile)
Yeah, but the original Christian paintings are all covered or damaged D:
For anyone wondering why John thanked Thought Bubble for putting he and Stan in the Green side, the Green side during the Nica Riots was the side that lived after Justinian called out the army.
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Luis Garcia not a test just homework
yes, same fren
yep
Luis Garcia oh my god I have a paper due yesterday🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Nah test in 1 hour XD
I must’ve watched this 10 times and I just noticed the not-so-subtle dig at the college girlfriend. Nicely done. I can imagine John calling the folks at the animation studio and saying “put the college gf animation up on the screen when I talk about adultery... JUST DO IT!!”
Day 12 of social distancing. I graduated high school two years ago. I'm not in college and have no reason to be watching this. But the quarantine boredom is hitting hard. So here we are.
I am a Roman Catholic. We view the Orthodox Church as legitimate, and they view us the same way. There is the leadership issue is there, and the split was caused by un-diplomatic people rather than a real issue with Church teaching.
“That lady, me from the past, is Emperor Justinian, we’ll get to him in a minute.”
Nice😂
We saw the video
7:40 Borat wearing a 'mankini" LOL He must have pranked Constantine too!
Another funny thing I noticed at this timestamp as well was that if you look the woman in the back has her drink disappear and before it switches frames multiple characters vaporize.
I'm so happy you brought up Theodora !!! She's one of my favourite historical figures ever. I wish we knew more about her.
I really enjoyed the "did you know?" for Constantine. Really glad I learned that.
LOL I was thinking about Vampire Diaries when he said Alaric as well 😂
"Like the David Tennant of Doctors" Brilliant! XD
7:42 look in the top right corner. The woman had a glass of wine, but it then disappears :O
ILLUMINATI
the woman disappears too
grej w0ah your right
Foung you
Romeball huh
This is brilliant. While I'm well past the years of needing to know this information for a test or similar, I do enjoy still reading about and refreshing my memory on various topics in history and this is a great format for it. Love the animation as it is eye pleasing, but wish you'd tell more if the story through animation. That would make a great thing even better.
Congratulations on earning a new subscriber ;)
Concept: People with tests tommorow and people who watch these for fun face each other off blue vs green style.
Watched this when it first came out in 2012, watching it now in 2019 before a Byz art history midterm...bless the Greens and this channel.
Anyone else here cramming for AP world tomorrow?
Pssst there hasn't been an laq on periods 3 and 4 in the past couple years
Literally me
Bailey Ann Freeman 😭😭😭😭
@@NathanWhite22 kind of funny that we got one this year
More like today. In 2 hours. I'm totally screwed, aren't I?
Mr Green. Hagai Sofia is a museum now. Thank you.
@Hit Stoner I live in Istanbul and it's still a museum, which Istanbul do you live in?
@Hit Stoner Buddy we would be rioting right now if something like that ever happened.
Erdogan has said he wants it to be a mosque. Wanting something and actually making it happen are different things.
I used to live in Istanbul, it's pretty cool!
What does it matter? it will be Constantinople again in the next 50 years
Watching since the beginning, and this show is a classic! Thank you John, and the whole team.
The fall of Rome is so bloody complicated
Jack J no just bloody
You can't simply take down a Behemoth
Jack J The North remembers
@ΣΑΜΠΑΝΗΣ
Except no, it is complicated, the mix of christian insurgency, barbarian invasion and destablizing region is the source for the fall of Rome
Centuries, several problems, internal, external, split up, expanded too far, etc.
i was playing Assasin's Creed and thought "what empire ruled rome during this time?" and ended up here.
nah, it was the templars
Who said games aren't awesome?
Which one?
Was playing assassins creed to and ended up herew
@@BlakeTimmonsArt brotherhood, don't judge me
Of course this gets recommended to me when Italy is put on nationwide lockdown due to Coronavirus
Yes
Title: fall of the roman empire.
Doesn't tell about the fall of the Byzantine empire
He does for like 3 seconds
Eatern Roman Empre. No one called it "Byzantine Empire".
The They Might Be Giants reference made me really happy
That Vampire Diaries reference... just awesome!
Also, as to my knowledge, the Hagia Sofia is not a mosque anymore, but serves as a museum.
5:44
Correction: Constantine the great was born in a Serbian town Niš, known as Naisus in time of the Roman empire
soph yyeet Thank you! I was thinking about this for a long time
Who else is bingeing this series just for the fun of it?
If you think about Rome didn't fall until 1453 when the Byzantine Empire fell. So Rome lasted from 753 BC to 1453 AD. That's 2206 years!
+racine0486 sorry, but "Rome" died when it split between east and west. It does not mean that each side wasn't awesome. East even more so.
Eh I don't think about like that
racine0486 Nah man. You have to consider steps between as well. First the Monarchy, then the Republic and then the Empire.
If you are speaking of Rome alone, then it most certainly died before 1953 and fall of Constantinople.
Around 900 AD. Byzantine resembled more a medieval version of Greek than a Roman state.
Still, awesome running time.
No man that's different. They just said they were Roman like the Russians did. The only Romans were the western and eastern.
+Sayyid Mohammed Elmi True, don't forget about the Sultanate of Rum.
"Did you know: Constantine is dead." XD
LMAO
The Haghia Sophia is now a museum not a mosque
*Hagia Sophia
It was made a World Heritage site by the UN
good luck with that ;)
Beau Bassett amen
Beau Bassett yeah lets liberate the city of 15 million muslims and make it an orthodox city, sounds perfectly logical to me. And it is not racist idea at all.
I wish you knew a little bit more about history.
Thanks for making these videos they're really nice and have kept me alive in way. :) They're well made videos and you guys do a job of making them. I appreciate them.
dating a history professor, and really want this to work......
Max S.F. how did it go?
It's been well over a year now, so what happened?
Max S.F. Yeah tell us !!!
I dont consider myself a historian but he said 15th century which is 1400's so he is right
no he is incorrect the Roman empire did fall, the eastern empire went on through the crusades. they spoke greek in the eastern empire and considered themselves more greek not Roman.
okay my teacher set this as homework and i am forever grateful like thank you this makes learning fun
avni yeah me too because I couldn’t have done all this work without him
Caesar over pope
never forgetting that one
WoonPlayz - Minecraft and Other Junk From Outer Space Caesar was so boss he WAS the Pope of his time
Dean Cutler there were no popes during Caesar's time.
SIEGE He was the Pontifex Maximus, head of the Roman priesthood before they converted to Christianity. That's why the Pope is sometimes called a pontiff.
Badr al-Baraq He was reffering to to orthodox Christian belief that Ruler > pope/bishop which caused the great schism
its like a historical fraction
Videos like this prove why history repeats itself. Because we can know, but we never learn.
Hagia Sophia is not a mosque now! That's such a huge mistake. It has been turned to a museum in 1935, shortly after the foundation of the Turkish Republic and it has remained so ever since.
Does it hold Muslim artifacts or Christian artifacts? Because it would be a huge disappointment if it holds Muslim artifacts.
+Nobblk Praetorian As far as I know, it doesn't really "display" any collection of artifacts. It is just a museum on its own, with all its Roman and Ottoman history on its walls and all.
Başak Özkara Eh, at least people won't forget that it is a Roman creation.
+Nobblk Praetorian How would it be a disappointment? Islamic art is just as beautiful as Christian art. Yes there Islamic art in Hagia Sophia.
They did in the time of the Crusades when the Crusaders captured Jerusalem and turned it's Signature mosque into a Barn.
He is awesome. Wish I had history teacher like him
Agreed
I wish John Greene was my history teacher, and I wish Micheal from Vsauce was my science teacher; or Bill Nye as my science teacher.
Yeah he would make every class fun and interesting :D
^
Haha agreed
Everyone is here for their AP tests, meanwhile I'm just a homeschooler who is very behind and trying to catch up before the end of school.
That open letter to pants was hilarious.....
IDEAS FOR NEW CRASH COURSE (MYTHS AND CULTURE):
1. STONE AGE
2. IRON AGE
3. CELTIC CULTURE
3. CELTIC MYTHS
4. NATIVE AMERICAN INDIAN MYTHS
5. GREEK MYTHS
6. MYTHS IN GENERAL (JOSEPH CAMPBELL / JUNG)
YES! TVD!!! Finally, a history video that is funny and yet very educational and accurate.
I didn't think I'd have to try so hard to understand an explanation.
Byzantium is now my car of choice. Thank you CrashCourse!
Wonder what the world would be like if Byzantium managed to at least survive to the modern day with its Greek holdings.
Indeed. I imagine with the rise of nationalism in the 1800s, it would have started to call itself the Greek Empire instead of the Roman Empire.
Burhan TheSomali The world could actually be vastly different. The reason Europeans searched for new trade routes to India because Constantinople fell to the Ottomans. In other words, the New World may have been never found (or only much later and perhaps by different people) if Constantinople didn't fall to the Ottomans.
Burhan TheSomali The otomans in america sounds like unfunded bullshit and the vikings were not a naval power at the time of the fall of Constantinopla. You forget that the reason for the spanish to send Columbus was to find a new trade rute.
The evidence that the Malians made it to the New World is kinda flimsy and based largely on heresay.
We know for a fact the Vikings sailed to the New World, due to the artifacts and abandoned settlements they left behind.
I can't speak for the Ottomans, because we'd have to quantify what it meant to 'know' about the New World. Did they speculate there was a large continent out west before anyone else? Because that idea had been around a long time.
I heard that the chinese knew something about America, but then there was that emperor who burnt the fleet, so neither would them.
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I am with you. Roman Civilization did not end with the fall of Rome and it lasted another thousand years.
True...It lasted another thousand years but not under the Roman rule and government. Roman civilization did end with the fall of Rome. However, the thousand years afterward was ruled by Byzantium and all her domains. When Rome fell, Civilization was shifted by title and rule to Byzantium and Roman civilization became Byzantine civilization. Rome really only ruled for about four hundred years.
I think you could argue that we are _still_ living in the remnants of Rome.
It's very interesting how EVERYONE tries and tried to be Rome. The Carolingian Empire, the Holy Roman Empire, the Byzantines, the Rûm, Russia and WW1-era Italy and Mussolini. Even the Ottoman Emperor, when he took Constantinople, proclaimed himself "Caesar of Rome".
Personally, I think Byzantium has the most legitimate claim, but still. Also, I could include Prussia and Germany, but they mostly used the Double-Headed Eagle, a symbol of the Western and Eastern Roman Empires.
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Wrong. It was the Roman Empire plain and simple with greek as the main tongue instead of latin.
That’s why it’s called the fall of the Roman EMPIRE not the fall of Roman Civilization
Watching this in self isolation during the COVID-19 pandemic for a test due tonight
:D Well, my subscription to this channel appears long overdue.
The Hagia Sophia is actually now a museum, not a mosque! It's located in the "museum"esque district in Turkey and now operates as a museum with a set fare to get in as well as audio guides. They also have removed some of the plaster that covered up Christian mosaics and now the Hagia Sophia is one of the few museums (if not the only one?) that has Christianity and Islam peacefully side by side.
Noor Jehan If it was restored to its former glory then we can say it was fully converted into a museum with its original art restored.
And by peacefully you mean one group wanting it back at all cost while the other group still considering itself owning it; then yes peace.....
It seems you forget that Hagia Sophia is like St. Peter's Basilica except for the Eastern Orthodox. Imagine if Mecca was conquered by the Hindus and the Mosque made into a Hindu palace. (That's right feel guilty)
Noor Jehan the year if the video... look at it.
Hey Mr. Green! Congrats on this channel. I subcribed to mental floss over a year ago and followed it like religiously. I will follow this one as well. Thanks for putting things like this on youtube and never ever forget to be awesome!!
Why was borat dancing during the chariot race? Good thing my phone is water resistant, I just spit beer all over it laughing.
Hagia Sophia is a museum now.
Great video! I do however, have a few remarks:
You didn't mention Basileios II or John Komnenos II, these were also some really interesting and capable Byzantine emperors, in my opinion equal to, or even better emperors than, Justinian.
Whether Justinian was that good of an emperor is also debatable, one could argue that he overstretched his armies and funds in the reconquest of Africa and the partial reconquest of Italy, draining the imperial treasury and weakening the empire's military position. His wife Theodora was often able to manipulate him, as were others at his court. He may not have been a real pushover, but he certainly wasn't the strongest (Byzantine) emperor.
Christianity also played a strong role in the fall of the Roman empire (not the biggest factor of course, Germanic tribes, civil war and economic crises being the foremost), as it was an exclusivistic religion, instead of a syncretic religion, such as Greco-Roman paganism. This in turn led to strong religious intolerance, widespread persecutions of unbelievers, philosophers and freethinkers, which strongly divided the empire and even reversed scientific and philosophical progress (think about atomism only resurfacing in the 16th century after having been wiped of the face of the earth because it contradicted christian doctrine). Christianity was by far not the hammerblow that crippled the empire, but it is too big a factor to be overlooked.
Last point: Whether the Byzantine empire should be considered to be the Roman empire or just a continuation of the Roman empire is also debatable. It could be compared with Charlemagne's Francia and the Kingdom of France. The latter is a continuation of the former, as was the Byzantine empire when compared to the Roman empire. Significant differences in language (Latin vs Greek, and Franconian vs French), administration, architecture, military tactics, cultural identity, etc. are large enough to speak of two distinct sovereign entities. Even though the transition of one to the other took place gradually over time, they are not the same.
Sorry for the long read guys, cheers.
That's bc this guys material is meant for high schoolers. he's keeping it simple or, like I like to called it, dumbed down
Milk Man Are you saying America is going to fail?
Justinian got trolled so hard by the Persians.
Thank you for writing an essay so that the world history students of American high schools won't have to!
on your last point, I disagree. It's all a matter of context. Think of it this way (this is a super simplified version): the Roman empire was this big chunk of land around the Mediterranean. Since it was so big and they had many issues with political and economical stability, they instated the tetrarchy, which means Rome had four simultaneous rulers (two major ones and two "spares"). After that, emperor Theodosius divided the empire between his two sons upon his death. The one who kept the western side was deposed and the one who kept the east side managed to keep his portion of the empire afloat. The "roman" side lost his big political leader, so the church rose as the only institution capable of keeping things sort of together and had to start dealing with Germanic kings and whatnot (think of Charlemagne and the pope and how they needed each other to cement their own authority). On the eastern side, church and politics were much closer together, so things ran rather smoothly for them, with many other important reasons of course, but the point is, they weren't significant differences between the two of them in terms of culture, military tactics and administration, one just "survived" the other until communications through the Balkans were interrupted and each portion had to look out for themselves. Rome had to make do with their new powerful neighbours and Byzantium tried to keep the party going (and they did) until the Ottomans came around.
We just call it the Byzantine empire for the sake of clarity, but technically, while both of them went on separate ways, they still are the same thing. At least where late antiquity historiography is concerned.
Constantine was born in Naissus which is modern day Nis, which is in Serbia...
Thank you! Scrolling down a mile to find thic coment.
And you and your people came in Naissus land ThreeHoundred yours later. if you're saying that Constantine is Slav, i accept that as a joke.
+Hieronymus MCMXCII I am Serbian and I would never say Constantine was Slavic, even if he was born in Nis
he is mother was greek
Slavs did migrate later but that fact has nothing to do with the fact that Naisuss is in modern day Serbia not Croatia.
Boy does history ever repeat itself... Rest in peace Europe :(
when he said warm genitals my social studies class lost it
Yet I wonder why the Scotts were so far up yet they wear kilt.
+Christian Djami they're just insane.
Constantine was born in modern day Niš, which is in southern Serbia, not Croatia.
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This channel gets me through my western civilization course...
john Green how often do you think about the Roman Empire?
As a Glaswegian, I can testify to that football rivalry thing. Blues and Greens, indeed 😉
I love your 'this machine kills fascists' sticker. I'm a tree surgeon and I want one for my chipper
Also, that would make extra sense, because the word "fascist" derives from "fasces," which is a bundle of...WOOD!
Gotta say this is one of crash courses strongest videos. Even given the short time limit this one is way better than the other videos.
Particle Man. Birdhouse in your soul. Boss of me. Lucky Ball and Chain.
TMBG had a couple of mainstream hits.
Super helpful while I try to understand my world history class. Thanks!
My knowledge of Roman and Greep history comes from the Percy Jackson series ( and maybe a bit from school).
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Greep? I think you mean Greek. Also, Percy Jackson Gods are Greek, not Roman. (Roman Gods are Plagiarised and Copied off Greek Gods anyway...)
GD SwiFT yeah I meant Greek,😅and I actually meant the the pjo series as in hoo as well and that includes both roman amd greek mythology.
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i swear u make me want to learn even more about history your theme is actually funny
Ooh, close but no cigar. The Hagia Sophia is now a museum. It was a mosque, but it became a museum in 1935
avalanche170 Yeah, good luck with that. Turkey has too many fanatical muslims in it. Letting them into the EU would be the last straw in handing over Europe to the muslims, who are already proving to be a giant pain in the ass to western civilization thanks to being allowed in and literally protected from criticism by the pissant politically-correct "leaders" whose worst fear in all the world is to be labeled "racist," even though islam, aka PISSlam, is a *religion*, not a race!
Even our own feminists won't criticize PISSlam's tradition of female circumcision and its rampant misogyny, because that would be "racist," don'tcha know. Fucking IDIOTS!!
The year 476 as the year of the fall of the Western Empire is not correct. Also, Romulus Augustus was not the last Western Emperor. It is a common, but ultimately incorrect, statement. The last Roman Emperor in the West was Julius Nepos, who was assassinated in Diocletian's Palace in the year 480. Nepos, who was already in control of the province of Dalmatia, was elevated to imperial rank by the Eastern Emperor Leo I in 474. He was married to Leo's niece (or his wife's niece, according to some sources), hence ''Nepos''.
In 475 Nepos was deposed by Orestes, a senior military official in Italy, who then appointed his son, Romulus, as the Emperor. Orestes could not have assumed the position himself because of his Germanic origins. His wife, Romulus's mother, on the other hand, was descended from a noble Roman family, thus making her son an acceptable choice for the throne. Of course, Romulus being only 15 or 16 at the time, the real power was in Orestes's hands.
Nepos, however, managed to escape to Dalmatia, over which he retained control. He was still considered Emperor of the West by the court in Constantinople, which viewed Romulus as a usurper, which, legally speaking, he was.
Meanwhile, back in Italy, Orestes made a terrible mistake of refusing to grant land to Germanic mercenaries in imperial service. They revolted under the leadership of Odoacer, who, after defeating and executing Orestes, quietly deposed Romulus. Because of his youth, and the manner in which he was forced to retire (Odoacer granted him an annual pension of 6000 solidi, and allowed him to live in the Lucullanum villa, in Campania), Romulus was nicknamed ''Augustulus''. He more or less disappeared from history after his deposition, although, there is some evidence which points out that he probably lived past the year 500, in quiet retirement.
After deposing Romulus, Odoacer tried to appeal to the Eastern Emperor, Zeno, to acknowledge his rule in Italy. Odoacer managed to gather support from the Roman Senate, and he tried to win Zeno over by styling himself as Zeno's viceroy in Italy. Nevertheless, Zeno, while granting Odoacer the title of Patrician, accepted his rule over Italy only after Odoacer agreed to acknowledge Nepos as his Emperor. Odoacer was not too pleased with this, but he kept his end of the bargain, even issuing coins in Nepos's name. Of course, Nepos's reign in Italy was just symbolic; he only truly had authority over the Dalmatian province.
Nepos, however, was plotting to regain actual control of Italy, and Odoacer perceived him as a threat. He was murdered in Diocletian's Palace, in 480, by one of his military commanders by the name of Ovida, probably a German.
There are a couple of explanations for the forces behind the assassination. Some argue that the Romans from Dalmatia itself were behind it, because by that point Dalmatia was an isolationist province, and a rather stable one at that, so they were in no mood to endanger that by going to war against Odoacer.
Other possible explanations are that the Emperor was murdered under Odoacer's orders, or possibly Glycerius's, who held imperial throne prior to Nepos, but was deposed by him and sent as a bishop to Salona, which is rather close to Diocletian's Palace.
I myself am of the opinion that Odoacer was behind it, as it fits perfectly with his ambitious, and highly capable, personality. After all, a German who was capable of winning both the support of the Roman Senate, and the acknowledgment of the Eastern Empire, and at a time when Germanic people were almost universally hated in Italy (during that century the Germans had a habit of sacking Italy, the Romans repaying them by massacring Germanic residents of the peninsula from time to time). Odoacer used the murder of Nepos as a justification to invade Dalmatia, since Nepos was de iure his sovereign. Ovida was killed, several other conspirators executed as well, and Dalmatia was annexed by Odoacer's growing kingdom, and in a such a way that the Eastern Empire could not object to it. With one masterful stroke he got rid of Nepos, and gained a cause to expand his borders, with Ovida paying the price.
After that Odoacer styled himself as Zeno's regent in the West, and he even allowed the Roman Senate to continue existing, passing his laws through it. So, interestingly, the Western Senate (there was one in Constantinople as well) actually outlived the Western Empire, through magnanimity of a barbarian, although a cultured one, who was also an able military commander and quite a capable diplomat as well. The Senate was genuinely loyal to him, which is rather ironic considering that they could not muster the same sense of loyalty to their own emperors.
The popularity of the notion that Romulus Augustulus was the last Emperor in the West probably has more to do with his name than anything else. Started with Romulus, ended with Romulus.
Rome when it’s leader does something they don’t like
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Just watched this video as part of an assignment for a history of western civilization course at my college!
4:18- left leg is over the right leg
4:21-right leg is over the left leg
Everybody gangsta til the ships start walking
Everybodys a gangster until Gandhi hits half your civ with ICBMs
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AP Test this month anyone?
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Never crammed so hard in my life😂
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Literally tomorrow for me
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Theodora also saved Justinian when she took care of him when he caught bubonic plague.
Well done! I am currently reading Sailing from Byzantium: How a lost Empire Shaped the world. It would be nice to see a video that talked more about the translation of Greek and Roman (Plato, Homer....) texts into Latin before the fall of the Byzantine empire, and including the influence it had on the Renaissance......
CrashCourse 5:44 He was born in Naissus (Niš), modern-day Serbia... Just sayin'...
Thought bubble was savage on this one! hahaha
Constantine was born in modernd day Serbia, Nish to be exact. -_-
OrigamiSage He wasnt serbian if thats what you are trying to point out.
Of course he wasn't.
That's not what I'm implying.
OrigamiSage Nish (The western outllands) has been Bulgarian ethnic region since middle ages and during the Ottoman reign until in 1878 the Russians gave it to Serbia for help in the war.Ethnic cleansing followed.
Fundin Dylgobrad Thanks for the info! :)
5:34 The emperor Constantine the Great was born in the city of Nissa, which is today called Niš - located in Serbia, *not* Croatia.
Diocletian (another very significant emperor) was born in modern-day Croatia, which is how the error probably originated.
ngl I'm a bit sad balisarius didn't get mentioned when Justinian was talked about
Why does this channel actually make me want to learn history despite it being one of my least favorite subjects
Thanks for this wonderful explanation and info based on the Roman Empire and fall of Rome. Helped me understand h/w (:
This is great! Thank you so much! It makes me think about how similar America is to Rome: vast and lacking a unifying culture. Thank you for this video along with the rest!
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I'm just here cramming for the WHAP test tomorrow then I get slapped with a Borat reference lmao
i keep trying to watch these and every other video fall asleep
Virginia Bensch yep it’s tmr and i don’t know any of it😝
Let's not forget the great musicians of Holy Roman Empire, Beethoven, Haydn, Mozart, Schubert.
They let us watch these in prison on peronal tablets. I watched the first 10 over and over and over again.!!!
Re: Emperor Constantine birth place @ 5:45
Konstantin Veliki je rodjen u Srbiji - Constantine the Great, like 16 other Roman emperors, was born in present-day Serbia ( Naissus - Nis)