Natasha Denona BRONZE PALETTE Swatches & Dupes???

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  • @StarBudgets
    @StarBudgets 4 роки тому +122

    I feel like color stories have all been done at this point so whenever a company releases a new palette unfortunately it's most likely been done before by another brand. That is why your channel is truly so important!! You let us know and show us where we can find that color story (or a similar one) in other palettes!! Thank you thank you thank you 💜

    • @kimpearson496
      @kimpearson496 4 роки тому +10

      One good thing about Corona it makes us look at what we have and see that we already have this not going to buy this again

    • @edmontonprincess
      @edmontonprincess 4 роки тому +4

      Profusion sienna

    • @MichelleLee-zr1uz
      @MichelleLee-zr1uz 4 роки тому

      That’s the problem with companies over saturating the consumers with constant releases. I think it would’ve been smarter for ND to release a palette that is with the trends of spring & summer for this year. Do pastels or something like that instead of a color story that was popular 3 years ago (& she also dupes her old shades in this)

    • @nairabee245
      @nairabee245 4 роки тому

      Michelle Lee I swear all her palettes already have sooo many golds and bronzes in them it’s like her default color or something. The ND gold probably has at least 3 or 4 of these types of colors as well. The companies are dumping themselves not only in a lot of their releases but in the same palette. People still eating it up tho🤷🏿‍♀️

  • @dazem8
    @dazem8 4 роки тому +122

    Jen is a superhero always saving us money with her comparisons/dupes! 💰🤭😆

  • @paofacu
    @paofacu 4 роки тому +74

    😱 so I basically have this palette except for the two darker shades 🤗❤️🤗 THANK YOUUUUUU

    • @Safaura
      @Safaura 4 роки тому

      This was so helpful!

  • @heathergirtz2750
    @heathergirtz2750 4 роки тому +71

    I really hope Alter Ego does a dupe of this

    • @maryfletcher3906
      @maryfletcher3906 4 роки тому +2

      Exactly! Rather than spend the money on natasha denona, I get the alter ego palettes. Really considering this palette though.

    • @staceyclark5020
      @staceyclark5020 4 роки тому +1

      Me too! I have 2 Alter Ego dupes and I love them.

    • @Khaleesi_Of_Kittens
      @Khaleesi_Of_Kittens 4 роки тому +4

      Why? She just showed you a whole video full of less expensive options that are going to get you pretty much the exact same looks as an Alter Ego dupe would.

    • @randomnotimportant9607
      @randomnotimportant9607 4 роки тому +9

      @@Khaleesi_Of_Kittens because........ some people like the formula and texture of Alter Ego palettes?

    • @dawnr9158
      @dawnr9158 3 роки тому +1

      @@randomnotimportant9607 your wish is granted! Alter ego has a dupe launching today, Jan 19th! And the Love pallete

  • @sarahf4768
    @sarahf4768 4 роки тому +23

    When I saw the ND Bronze palette I immediately thought of the extra spicy palette! The California love palette is so close too, I have both so maybe I will just pull those out instead! Thanks Jen!

  • @emilydeagazio3254
    @emilydeagazio3254 4 роки тому +24

    I’m always blown away by the comparison palettes you share. Your knowledge of makeup and specific products is honestly incredible haha! This video was so helpful as always!!

  • @lindysmallwood2039
    @lindysmallwood2039 4 роки тому +13

    You are the swatch queen Your camera is so clear and close up we can see the colors perfectly Thank you for putting in the time. Seeing the palettes swatched really help us save money and really know what the colors look like on the skin. Be safe ❤️🌺

  • @ginabinafofina
    @ginabinafofina 4 роки тому +30

    Tbh... I don’t care if the shades look similar. These are all so right up my alley, I know they’d get a lot of use regardless. But ND prices are still way too insane for me. I can’t justify spending that much on coloured powder for my eyes :c

  • @Soapartisan875
    @Soapartisan875 4 роки тому +3

    I love and appreciate these comparison videos because you really save me from buying palettes I really don’t need .. keep them coming they are the best ❤️

  • @metrini
    @metrini 4 роки тому +13

    I kinda want this! I have none of the alternative palettes

  • @LindaJohnson-rf7kz
    @LindaJohnson-rf7kz 4 роки тому +24

    I hope I don’t offend anyone, but finally! A palette I’m not totally in love with. You probably saved me some money Jen. I’ll be ok as long as I don’t watch this again 😬 I still love these videos and I appreciate you taking the time to do them 💕💕

  • @raquelarredondo1642
    @raquelarredondo1642 4 роки тому +54

    The colors look so similar, don’t you think? Once i saw you swatch this palette i changed my mind.

    • @jennyjaunich4814
      @jennyjaunich4814 4 роки тому +3

      Same!!!

    • @helpfulnhappy
      @helpfulnhappy 4 роки тому +2

      Me too

    • @vanny1993
      @vanny1993 4 роки тому +5

      Most of the shimmers are same colors

    • @rhaena8259
      @rhaena8259 4 роки тому +4

      I wish the repeat shimmers were replaced with more mattes

    • @melindavansandt5168
      @melindavansandt5168 4 роки тому +1

      Me 7 or 10...it basically looks like. A whole darn rodeo of the same colored horses!!

  • @jules4221
    @jules4221 4 роки тому +8

    You just saved me from my first ND palette. You are a rock star.

  • @pamelawolf313
    @pamelawolf313 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for sharing this. I know it takes time, and effort and we appreciate it so much. 🧡🤎❣️

  • @angiec8784
    @angiec8784 4 роки тому +2

    YES! Thank you Jenn!!! You are the best! Great video

  • @beverlyrichardson5877
    @beverlyrichardson5877 4 роки тому +52

    After seeing the swatches, I won't purchase. I have too many palettes similar. TFS

    • @jennifertrammel9112
      @jennifertrammel9112 4 роки тому +2

      I totally agree! Thanks Jen for those swatches. I was kinda interested until then. I feel like these shadows are all too similar to each other.

  • @karensonnentag1882
    @karensonnentag1882 4 роки тому +3

    Love your swatch channel!! Thank you so much for sharing and comparing with other pallets so we don't buy something we may not need. This info absolutely helps in my purchasing decisions especially if I have most of these shades in pallets I already own.

  • @hmh9661
    @hmh9661 4 роки тому +1

    Wow! Damn. I ordered it, now I have to return it. California Love is one of my favs. I’m just always attracted to those tones. I get them over and over.

  • @hillaryhoshaw
    @hillaryhoshaw 4 роки тому +3

    Your swatches are sooo helpful. The bronzes all look so similar once swatched, it’s crazy. Some rose gold and champagne golds would have made this so much more versatile.

  • @jungimkim6782
    @jungimkim6782 4 роки тому +7

    Thank you for sharing comparisons. I feel like I should give more love to my palettes, too.😍

  • @leahmommy7711
    @leahmommy7711 4 роки тому +10

    Jen you’re doing the Lord’s work reminding us that we have those colours already 👏🏾, same thing happened when I watched your cor-de-rosa video. I was immediately attracted to this palette because I LOVE this colour story but I knew I had them already over and over. Thanks for these comparisons 🙏🏾

  • @Ferndedman
    @Ferndedman 4 роки тому +1

    Had been thinking about this palette but seeing the comparisons has completely changed my mind! I own both the Too Faced and ABH palettes and can't believe how many similarities there are!!! Thank you so much for the money save :)

  • @amyc2696
    @amyc2696 4 роки тому +1

    This was a wonderful video, thank you! The new Bronze palette looks gorgeous but like you said - the Too Faced Gingerbread Extra Spicy is such a close match. I pulled it out today and used it and I’m really happy with it. It’s saved me from buying this and the newest Sigma palette as well!

  • @suki-yuki
    @suki-yuki 4 роки тому +1

    I love that you created this channel!! ❤💗🌸🎀🦄🧁🌻🍫🍬

  • @ceecee7879
    @ceecee7879 4 роки тому +2

    WOW.....Colourpop!! Amazing comparison, Jen 💖💖

  • @SandraO811
    @SandraO811 4 роки тому +2

    These are the most helpful videos!! Keep doing them!! Thanks!

  • @MaRi-dz4fu
    @MaRi-dz4fu 4 роки тому +2

    Jen, thank you for another amazing video 😘😘😘 the amount of work you do, both analyzing the color schemes and swatching endlessly, is just incredible ❤️❤️❤️ that’s the beauty blogging we all want I dare say ❤️

  • @lightningeyes3320
    @lightningeyes3320 4 роки тому +2

    I love your swatch comparisons! Thank you for taking the time to do this for your viewers! 💜

  • @truewants
    @truewants 4 роки тому +8

    YEAH! Another Amazing Video...you just changed my Want..to already have what I need! Thanks xoxo

  • @soxnation1000
    @soxnation1000 4 роки тому

    I don't really wear makeup and don't have any of these palettes, but your palette videos are so relaxing I love to watch!

  • @monireichmann3826
    @monireichmann3826 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks Jen! This was so very helpful. Now thinking this really isn’t something I need for my collection. You saved me a couple bucks!!

  • @aura3337
    @aura3337 4 роки тому +1

    Like I always say..... you do the BEST swatches!

  • @samanthajewett305
    @samanthajewett305 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for these comparisons. I have been thinking about the ND bronze palette, but really don't have the money. And I already have the Colourpop California Love palette, so now I won't feel like I'm missing out.

  • @michelem77112
    @michelem77112 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for doing these videos! They are some of my favorites, but I don’t care for the music. I always turn the sound down until I think you are telling us about the palettes. LOVE your descriptions and opinions!

  • @elisemariiee
    @elisemariiee 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you !!!!!! I have abh soft glam and the tf extra spicy.
    You saved me cause man was I drooling over this ND palette

  • @riyach6497
    @riyach6497 4 роки тому +1

    I had no idea about ur new channel .I wanted too see comparison with soft glam that palette was in my mind when i saw this .Thank you i m glad i also found ur 2nd channel and this vid❤

  • @brittanyfickling7451
    @brittanyfickling7451 4 роки тому +1

    SUCH a great idea for a channel!!

  • @delaneysadventures2429
    @delaneysadventures2429 4 роки тому +1

    Wow it’s so interesting to see that the pallets look so different and then the swatches are so similar. Your tip on the blending was very appreciated, I think I am going for the color pop one💕

  • @amylewis7563
    @amylewis7563 4 роки тому +1

    Wow. This was super helpful. Would never shell out the coin for ND anyway, but I loved the way it looked. I have and adore the California Love so now it all makes sense! I will use it today. Much appreciated. 💗💗

  • @christinecho779
    @christinecho779 4 роки тому +1

    I love my California love palette! Thanks for saving me an impulse buy. 😍

  • @Nobodyknowsnothingaboutnothing
    @Nobodyknowsnothingaboutnothing 4 роки тому

    You are one of the best out there. Thanks for the time and work you put in for all of us!!

  • @17mariposa
    @17mariposa 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for your video! I was thinking to buy the Bronze Palette. But I have Too Faced Gingerbread. I didn't realize I don't need it.

  • @brandymalinovski3212
    @brandymalinovski3212 4 роки тому +1

    I'm so happy I stumbled across this video! I was thinking about it and I really didn't need another palette and now I don't have to since I already have the too faced extra spicy gingerbread! You just saved me $65! Thank you!!!!!!!

  • @Haley___
    @Haley___ 4 роки тому +1

    Such a cool video! You did a great job duping . I have the California love , that I love and it’s so similar

  • @lerbolario0628
    @lerbolario0628 4 роки тому +1

    This video is such a great help for me! Thank you so much for the comparison!

  • @SueK2001
    @SueK2001 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks! I have the Soft Glam but have hit pan on some of the shades so I feel pretty good about getting this ND palette.

  • @PATYRGOMEZ
    @PATYRGOMEZ 4 роки тому +1

    TY sooooo.much for the info... keep up the amazing work... now that I extra free time..am playing with make up again..and just happened to run into your videos..U R WONDERFUL for giving me the informed..

  • @ralij4828
    @ralij4828 4 роки тому +1

    I live for your videos Jen! Thank you so much for this comparison, I was interested in the Bronze palette but I had a feeling I have most of these shades, now I know I have almost the same palette because I have the Gingerbread extra spicy and Soft glam.

  • @elysepranin4936
    @elysepranin4936 4 роки тому +1

    Very helpful thanks🥰have a good weekend.

  • @karnew06
    @karnew06 4 роки тому +2

    This was awesome, thank you. Very helpful 🎈

  • @lubazak636
    @lubazak636 4 роки тому +3

    I have a lot of these shades already including the ND Metropolis pallet which has her formula, that I personally love, especially her shimmers. I like Colourpop and ABH, as well, but Natasha Denona has the best shimmers in the world and Viseart has the best mattes. You can buy
    great cheaper pallets, but those brands have jaw dropping quality.

  • @YaddaYaddaYana
    @YaddaYaddaYana 4 роки тому +2

    The BH Cosmetics Solar Flare palettes that's on sale for like $12 has v similar vibes. It has so many bronze-y tones. Some red, some pinker, some more golden. Some more taupey. It also has the purples and a shade with a lime-flip. Big difference is that the palette is all metallics, although I'm assuming most people have a lot of brown mattes in varying tones in their collection. The metallics are also very smooth and not textured and sparkly like ND's metallics. Really great palette if you want a similar vibe though.

  • @RaquelCamilo258
    @RaquelCamilo258 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much Jen! Awesome swatches and comparisons ❤️ so useful

  • @StarBudgets
    @StarBudgets 4 роки тому +6

    You got this fast!!! Woo hoo, thank you for the video

  • @jennkim259
    @jennkim259 4 роки тому +1

    So helpful! Would love to see this for Biba!

  • @natasja581
    @natasja581 4 роки тому +2

    Jen, thank you. I had it in my cart, but after seeing this I removed it. Love both your channels. You are the best!!!!

  • @AmyBlack1206
    @AmyBlack1206 4 роки тому +2

    Even Morphe Boss Mood has bronze shades. This ND is nice and all but seriously, there are so many warm bronze palettes out

  • @lyn930
    @lyn930 4 роки тому +1

    I have several of the palettes you've shown. This video was so helpful. Your swatches rock. Thanks Jen. Blessings!

  • @LizzSofee
    @LizzSofee 4 роки тому +1

    Wow you rock Jen u just saved me money and reminded me I already have these colors in the other palettes u mentioned! Thank u so much!

  • @Anonymous-sh9vk
    @Anonymous-sh9vk 4 роки тому +1

    Hi! Just found your channel. I've been going in circles about buying the ND Bronze (it's a bit dark and repetitive for me but of course it's ND so I wanted it :) ), but now I know I don't want it - I have the colors in so many other palettes, especially my California Love. Thanks so much for this!

  • @addisonb2652
    @addisonb2652 4 роки тому +6

    Yes! I was waiting for this! 🥰

  • @Tomadeupjazz
    @Tomadeupjazz 4 роки тому +2

    I have California love, extra spicy, soft glam, and the Morphe bronzed goals (which is also very similar) and I LOVE THIS PALETTE regardless. Totally justified

    • @weatherandsky
      @weatherandsky 4 роки тому

      Totally agree! I have California love and it looks so poor quality on my skin tone compared to the ND bronze palette. Plus the impact and depth is completely different imo when applied to the lids.

  • @ana7177
    @ana7177 4 роки тому +1

    So helpful, this video made me realize I have 2 palettes that are dupes the colourpop and the gingerbread:) thank you!!

  • @tanhome7
    @tanhome7 4 роки тому +14

    Awwww man, now I’m regretting ordering this....I will most likely return this now that I’ve seen this video and comparisons. To me, the promo shots looked more cool toned which is why I jumped on it but in reality, it’s another warm toned palette and actually looking more copper than bronze to me. Can’t trust IG product photos, seriously 😐 that’s why this channel is very helpful so thanks Jen!

    • @annaramirez3067
      @annaramirez3067 4 роки тому +1

      I know, I bought mine a few weeks before Jen's video came out. Still, I tried to convince myself that I'll keep it but now I'm just not so sure. Especially if CColor, Beauty Glazed, Ucanbe, or Alter Ego dupe the palette 😭 yes the packaging is gorgeous, the palette, the fact that the shadows can be popped out, but good Lord, it's a lot of $$. I wish I would've waited waited for a few dupe videos. I had intended to pop out the colors I don't want or are redundant and put in some from 2 of her mini palettes that I want- I don't even have them lol, so getting 2 of the mini palettes at $25 a pop just to customize a $55?! Like no!!! That's just rediculous ok!!! Ugh, no, no no no.

  • @meitalkabeli509
    @meitalkabeli509 4 роки тому +4

    The colors are gorgeous, a neutral dream, but when I first saw it I thought it was very similar to the ABH Soft Glam. Thanks for showing other comparisons, having the TF Gingerbread Extra Spicy, I can probably come up with some looks that are close to this color story.

  • @akaandi769
    @akaandi769 4 роки тому +1

    Could you please do this style of video for the ND love palette as well as the sunrise palette? Please and thank you!

  • @velmasmith4604
    @velmasmith4604 4 роки тому +1

    This was very informative, I’m still not sure if I’m going to get after this video. This was great.

  • @itscoral
    @itscoral 4 роки тому +1

    I looooooove these videos. I'll definitely be dipping back into my California Love palette. It's definitely close enough.

  • @chrystar1
    @chrystar1 4 роки тому

    What a terrific video! This helped me so much! I definitely subscribed. My collection is vast but my head still turns at new releases. This format is perfect and your quick reviews are spot on.

  • @noemirodriguez3711
    @noemirodriguez3711 4 роки тому +1

    I love that you do these! I have the two faced one. I wasn't going to get it anyway.. but now I feel even better knowing I can dupe it if I really wanted.

  • @tamarasparks8065
    @tamarasparks8065 4 роки тому +1

    I wanted this....because I have these shades! Thank you! I have California Love and a Soft Glam dupe. I will pull them out and play. I also found a Nyx pigment in my collection that is a coppery bronze shiny dream.

  • @Nal.torious
    @Nal.torious 4 роки тому

    Thank you for the review. I have the too faced extra spicy palette and I’m glad it’s so close. You saved me a few bucks 😃

  • @alyssaoros1807
    @alyssaoros1807 4 роки тому +1

    THANK YOU for doing this. I dont own any ND palettes, but this one caught my eye since it was the "lower" price point but I already have the Soft Glam and multiple other warm tone palettes.

  • @blipstercravings
    @blipstercravings 4 роки тому +4

    Would love to see a comparison with this palette and the Morphe 35 bronze goals!!

  • @jennyjaunich4814
    @jennyjaunich4814 4 роки тому +3

    Jen, this was sooooo helpful! I wanted to buy this palette as my first ND experience but it's tough to pay the price. Now I know that I have similar colors in my collection already (California Love and Soft Glam) and I can pass on the hefty price tag. 👍🏻

  • @kendrachoy5429
    @kendrachoy5429 4 роки тому +1

    Well, I was going to get this for my first ND palette, but after seeing your swatches, I can use my California Love and Soft Glam instead! Thank you for this video!

  • @Iceemomma808
    @Iceemomma808 4 роки тому

    Love your swatches and comparisons!

  • @alb91878
    @alb91878 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for your thorough and in depth review and comparisons. This is so funny but this is one of the 1st of 2 or 3 of her palette that I'm absolutely in love with but I'm still going to hold out and waits until I think about the other options that you put out there. This is extremely useful information said thank you so much for the! So glad I took the time to watch your video and think about things before I jumped out to order this!

  • @patriciamejia1873
    @patriciamejia1873 4 роки тому +1

    Ohhh Jen, I love your channel.😘

  • @saranyabiswas2057
    @saranyabiswas2057 4 роки тому +3

    I know when I saw this palsy it definitely reminded me of California Love

  • @jackieb.7368
    @jackieb.7368 4 роки тому +1

    Wow. I’m going for wet and wild. I’m a budget. Great job 👍

  • @adriannyc1
    @adriannyc1 4 роки тому +3

    Saved me $65! Thank you!!! I would love to see more ND dupes 💋

  • @reneelopez902
    @reneelopez902 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for doing these videos. You’re saving me so much money. Maybe these companies can be more innovative if they see we’re uninterested. I am so sick and tired of the same old stuff. We have enough warm tones for the love of Pete!!!

  • @Dancethedecay
    @Dancethedecay 4 роки тому +1

    thanks for this comparison video!!❤️❤️

  • @liewe1
    @liewe1 4 роки тому

    I was so tempted by this palette but I’ve got soft glam and now feel like I don’t need it! These vids of yours are soooooo helpful! Now I can save my money for the glam palette instead as I don’t have any of those shades in my collection currently

  • @SmarandaC
    @SmarandaC 4 роки тому +1

    Been waiting for this video from you!!!

  • @christahodges
    @christahodges 4 роки тому +1

    Good afternoon Jen! Super excited to watch this! I'm still waiting on my ND Bronze eyeshadow palette to come in 🤗 You truly are appreciated ❤😊🙌👍

  • @StephLyons
    @StephLyons 4 роки тому +1

    I appreciate this video more than you know. Thank you.

  • @claudiatorres9936
    @claudiatorres9936 4 роки тому +1

    Lol I was thinking about this one but now I know I have most of the colors. Thanks Jen, you're awesome!

  • @TS-hp8cm
    @TS-hp8cm 4 роки тому

    Wow this video was incredibly helpful in making purchase decisions. Thank you!

  • @staceyclark5020
    @staceyclark5020 4 роки тому +2

    Great comparisons Jen! I have California Love and Morphe Bronze Goals so I'm I'm gunna skip. I do love bronze color stories, though.

  • @Angelfa1ry
    @Angelfa1ry 4 роки тому

    I like how you compared similar palettes to help decided whether to buy this one or not.

  • @cinnabun715
    @cinnabun715 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you, Jen! I have the CP California Love, TF Extra Spicy Gingerbread and ABH Soft Glam. Wasn't sure I was going to pick up ND Bronze, especially after Angelica Nvquist referred to it as the poop palette, it really lost it's charm! But I had it on my loves list, just in case. Never know when I'll get the random gift card. Now I know I already have the color stories in formulas I like better!

  • @shanerobinson4892
    @shanerobinson4892 4 роки тому

    I got ND Bronze palette for my birthday but I didn't realize how similar it was to ABH Soft Glam and Kylie Bronze. I have those but didn't notice it until now. It's also in the same color family as Morphe X Jaclyn Hill Ring the Alarm and Melt Twenty- Seven.

  • @niqcolelombardo3001
    @niqcolelombardo3001 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks Jen! Can you find a dupe for Pat McGrath Divine Rose palettes!!?🤣😁❤👍🥤

  • @Retexey
    @Retexey 4 роки тому +1

    Gee you're good at finding cheaper alternatives! You've got a really good eye for colour 👏👏

  • @AZ_Julie480
    @AZ_Julie480 4 роки тому +1

    I thought of the TF buttered rum and the tartelette toasted and naked heat . So didn’t think I needed the ND one ! I have the extra spicy also that I love ! Didn’t even think of it ... the abh is also similar ! Dang girl didn’t even think of that one either ! I love TF formula. I only have 3 of the Natasha Denona minis ... I have 3 of the alter ego dupes and I’m happy with that !
    💛🧡thanks Jen !!!

  • @weatherandsky
    @weatherandsky 4 роки тому +4

    I was so excited to see the comparison with colour pop's California Love because I have that one. Well, l I took it out swatched it and tried it on my lids and for some reason, that formula just doesn't work for me on my darker skin tone. The shades are powdery, ashy and didn't adhere to my lid. Now I remember why I don't use it despite liking the colour story. I am confident though that ND's formula will work much better for me. Oh the Too faced spicy one did come to mind as a similarity and it's definitely a great palette but I don't love how the shimmers performed. Great video overall and I agree that it's definitely not a palette that everyone needs.

    • @jenphelpsswatches6765
      @jenphelpsswatches6765  4 роки тому

      I can definitely see that, because Natasha's shadows adhere very well to the skin!

  • @sbcp39
    @sbcp39 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you Jen!!!! ❤❤❤ This video is very helpful. I was looking for a video of comparisons with other palettes that aren't natasha denona. I was wondering if this is similar to the artist couture supreme nude palette.

    • @JenPhelps
      @JenPhelps 4 роки тому

      I thought it might be and there are a couple of similar shades but really just the golds. 😊

  • @StephiGlam
    @StephiGlam 4 роки тому +1

    Beautiful 👌🏼 I reviewed mine on my channel already & I liked it but the cheek palette 🙄🤩 I had a bad experience 🤷🏻‍♀️