Just charred my bones and am going to soak them in rice vinegar I hope it’s the same as brown rice vinegar. They’re a little white on the outside because I charred a little too long but black all the way through so should be 👍.Will update
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I was surprised when I used calphos powder and there was no reaction. Is there a reason for that? I used calcium carbonate powder and oyster shell powder in other WCA extractions and got bubbles.
@@PureKNFDrake Thank you! I went to the FB group and they told me I needed acetic acid and citric acid combined in a 2:1 ratio, that stronger acid would extract the calcium and phosphorus out of soft rock phosphate. I'll look into both suggestions and see what I find out.
What if my bones were from a table scraps? Like marinated steak bones thats been already cooked. Boil off for awhile then char is okay? I'm scared because i know the cook uses MSG. Would cleaning the bones by boiling be enough before charring?
You can dig a hole and make a fire with some small logs. Lay the bones on top of the fire and get it burning thoroughly, then bury with dirt and let burn anaerobicly. This will make biochar as well as cal/phos and the biochar will hold the nutrients
Nice video. May I know the composition for fertilizing plant ? Is it 4 ml per 1 gallon ? How do you use it, spray it unto the leaves or pour to the ground ? Many thanks
Hi Drake, thanks for the tutorial. I have 2 questions. Please, if you can assist, It'll be greatly appreciated. Will eggshells and bones charred via pyrolasis suffice? If the charred material is crushed into a powder, thus greatly increasing surface area to react with; will the WCP be ready as soon as the reaction with the vinegar has ended?
Lol no, he’s making calcium acetate. Calcium phosphate is insoluble in acetic acid and the calcium carbonate, now more so calcium oxide when he burned it, is getting converted to calcium acetate. There is probably a lot of carbon waste, just buying chalk or using eggshells would be way better than bones. If you want to make calcium phosphate, just add calcium carbonate or calcium oxide to phosphoric acid.
Hi Drake When i make a solution to spray my plants FPJ, WCA, FFJ exc after a few weeks of application the sprays leave a black/dark fine layer like dried water marks all over plant but can be rubbed off with water. Is this normal?
you sure you know your chemistry ? bone is mostly calcium carbonate , you char it to mark calcium oxide ( more reactive ) adding vinegar ( 4 % acetic acid ) will give you calcium acetate. Where is the phosphate . if you react your char bone will coke , one of the ingridient ) is phosphoric acid then you get calcium phosphate, mono. di, or tri phosphate depending on the molar ratio
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For every 1kg of bones 10 kg of vinegar right sir 1:10 ratio
Very good video. Can you use FAA, LAB, IMO2, WCP and WCA together in the same sprayer?
Yes
Thank you so much for all the videos you've shared
Just charred my bones and am going to soak them in rice vinegar I hope it’s the same as brown rice vinegar. They’re a little white on the outside because I charred a little too long but black all the way through so should be 👍.Will update
Drake keep spreading the good word about KNF. Your videos are always a help!
thanks! can visit my site naturalfarminghawaii.net and buy something to help keep me in top shape. or just put this into practice. either way the world's getting better every day!
Can you use white distilled vinegar or does it have to be a rice vinegar or coconut vinegar like another person used, thanks, appreciate it
your bones= black charcoal? can i use cheaper rice vinegar instead of more expensive BRV . i will make own banana vinegar if needed.
i use white vinegar for the recipe
What kind of bones can be used? Chicken?
Does it have to be charred bone or can I use bone meal / Fish bone meal
If you can char it go for it
Can I use lactic or Phosphoric acid instead of vinegar🤷♂️? ....
I was surprised when I used calphos powder and there was no reaction. Is there a reason for that? I used calcium carbonate powder and oyster shell powder in other WCA extractions and got bubbles.
You need pyrophosphate
@@PureKNFDrake Thank you! I went to the FB group and they told me I needed acetic acid and citric acid combined in a 2:1 ratio, that stronger acid would extract the calcium and phosphorus out of soft rock phosphate. I'll look into both suggestions and see what I find out.
What if my bones were from a table scraps? Like marinated steak bones thats been already cooked. Boil off for awhile then char is okay? I'm scared because i know the cook uses MSG. Would cleaning the bones by boiling be enough before charring?
How do you char the bones? In the oven? In a fire?
You can dig a hole and make a fire with some small logs. Lay the bones on top of the fire and get it burning thoroughly, then bury with dirt and let burn anaerobicly. This will make biochar as well as cal/phos and the biochar will hold the nutrients
For calcium phosphate only brown rice vinegar we have to use or any vinegar we can use please answer me
Could I use natural rock phosphate instead of charred bones? I thank you for your help!!!
It's not the same for uptake. Charred bones create pyrophosphates which are water soluble
@@PureKNFDrake I Thank you so much for your quick reply,
how do you char the bones can you show us ?????
Is there any plant or mineral substitute for this ?
Nice video. May I know the composition for fertilizing plant ? Is it 4 ml per 1 gallon ? How do you use it, spray it unto the leaves or pour to the ground ?
Many thanks
Both
@@marshmellowfarms but whats the ratio for foliar and soil application? And how often should I applicate It?
Hi Drake, thanks for the tutorial. I have 2 questions. Please, if you can assist, It'll be greatly appreciated. Will eggshells and bones charred via pyrolasis suffice? If the charred material is crushed into a powder, thus greatly increasing surface area to react with; will the WCP be ready as soon as the reaction with the vinegar has ended?
Yea most of it will be dissolved, you could speed it up even more by heating it and mixing it around
Lol no, he’s making calcium acetate. Calcium phosphate is insoluble in acetic acid and the calcium carbonate, now more so calcium oxide when he burned it, is getting converted to calcium acetate. There is probably a lot of carbon waste, just buying chalk or using eggshells would be way better than bones. If you want to make calcium phosphate, just add calcium carbonate or calcium oxide to phosphoric acid.
@@garageme6152 is this true, is he making calcium acetate? How do you know this?
Bones?
You can do this with egg shells.
egg shells work for calcium supplements but not phosphorus supplement which is what this is as well.
Regrow teeth? Doubt it
Hi Drake
When i make a solution to spray my plants FPJ, WCA, FFJ exc after a few weeks of application the sprays leave a black/dark fine layer like dried water marks all over plant but can be rubbed off with water. Is this normal?
I would try using a wetting agent so emulsify the solution and maybe making some em-5 to spray right after.
Anyone know if I can make wcap with some left over bone meal dry amendments??
Not that well. It's hard to char without turning to ash. May be possible in a retort
@@PureKNFDrake thanks dude 🤙⭐oh wow so now that got me thinking of my biochar op and how that can may be something to link with wcap in particular
hey guys,,,, I use bonemeal for this... I believe it is already steemed so does that mean I don't have to char it???
if you don't burn it, they won't unlock the phosphorous.
Isn't this technically calcium acetate?
CaCO3+ 2H+ -> Ca+2 + H2O +CO2....I think it's acetate...
Yes it is, though a lot of carbon waste, also ca3(po4)2 is insoluble in acetic acid so he dumb.
@@forageforage3520 based on what he used wouldn’t it be caco3 + 2c2h4o2 → c4h6cao4 + h2o or something
What's the difference between WCA and WCAP?
Phosphorus
you sure you know your chemistry ? bone is mostly calcium carbonate , you char it to mark calcium oxide ( more reactive ) adding vinegar ( 4 % acetic acid ) will give you calcium acetate. Where is the phosphate . if you react your char bone will coke , one of the ingridient ) is phosphoric acid then you get calcium phosphate, mono. di, or tri phosphate depending on the molar ratio
Wow ...... wow
Bones away!
That’s not calcium phosphate bro
What is it?
@@PureKNFDrake pretty sure he just made dirty calcium acetate
So the charred bones don't dissolve pyrophosphates?
@@PureKNFDrake I don’t think
@@PureKNFDrake it says calcium phosphate is insoluble in acetic acid? Im not sure though
Any way to trst for phosphorus in your final product?
Pass the bong bro