Are we watching the same show? This season has been incredible for me, eerie, spooky, corporate environmental malfeasance, cosmic horror. The acting is believable and the stories are compelling.
All I’m saying is, if somebody were to throw hot coffee in my face, we would have more than words, I don’t care if it’s a 60 year old lady that did it.
As big of a fan i am of the show, specifically season one and I thought season 3 complimented it well. Season two let me down just based off of how great season one was. But this season has me incredibly disappointed. I want to love the show but in three episodes Ive left only asking more questions than I came in with , and only enjoying Jodies acting honesty. Ive just come to accept its already half over and theres such minimal detective work or answers to anything that I kinda just lost hope in it being good. Its supernatural or its contaminated water, and if it isnt its something thats barely been hinted right? I mean I dont want to watch 6 episodes to find that out, and I dont want it to be some dumb answer that was never foreseen or some twist like a Navarro alter ego and she killed em. From a writing standpoint, the lack of answers and only more questions when its already half over does what? I guess have me wanting to see whats going on next then hey yea.
I totally get where you’re coming from. I didn’t think of the water making people hallucinate or that Navarro has a split personality. Man if the latter is the case, I’ll flip out haha
@@SHOOKEARTHMEDIAtheyve shown dirty water and I really do think its from something in the water, or they are really taking the series in a supernatural route, and either one disappoints me because I just wanted a detective show similar to what you were saying. I hope im wrong and its some research that clark was invested in and killed annie and the other scientists for something, idek how this season can be answered for now.
This is definitely not going to be explained by supernatural answers. I agree so much about Peters wife yikes.That scene with Lund was definitely in Navarros head.
I'm kind of wondering if people "weren't that interested in the personal lives" of the marty and rust or the characters from S2 or S3, or what. This actually feels like less active character development in some cases than all 3 of the seasons before it.
It's got an X-files and the thing vibe to it so it's not a bad show. But I'll admit it's got more family drama than detective story. So 80% family drama and 20% real detective mystery. Like episode 3 basically nothing happens until the end the guy wakes up suggesting he's be reanimated like a zombie briefly before he dies. So more meat is needed on the plot.
@@vinayingle342 Well Rust and Marty was an interesting character study of their bromance so that was half the fun. Season 2 never watched but 3 was honestly boring but watchable. This season so far there isn't anyone near as fascinating as Rust and Marty. That being said it's great to see Jodie Foster back as a grizzled detective and the Arctic setting is always a winner. It starts off similar to that other show Fortitude which was awesome but with polar bears instead of caribou. But that ran for 2½ seasons. Here we only got 6 episodes so dunno how they're gonna weave a rich detective mystery if they're wasting run-time on so much filler.
He didn't say it's terrible. He's saying the truth. Which is; thus far it's very meh, and now it only has 3 episodes left with no likable characters and a good bit of paranormal stuff to explain. Now do you think the show will flip the script and develop the 2 leads into likable or at least interesting characters simultaneously ending their case to a reasonable extent in 3 episodes, or will this just end as another uninspired season of True Detective? Season 2&3 both had a lot of fans that where acting as if all was good in those seasons until the very end when they aired.
Other interpretations other than supernatural occurances include mental illness (schizophrenia runs in Navarros family) or hallucinations caused by poisoning from the water. Or both About the phone: they probably called the phone company to give them access to
Good points. I don’t think phone companies can unlock the phone, they can just send phone records and texts and whatnot, but I can let that one go, honestly
Hopefully it's not a ghost 👻 story. Maybe it's a virus that reanimate the dead into zombies so the scientists all ran off scared. But that doesn't explain why they're all naked in the cold
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 hold on are we saying that season1 had “supernatural” stuff in it?? Because while that’s true in Rust’s case it was never a primary focus of the case or even really the character’s development. I think the portrayal of supernatural events in s4 and s1 are not even comparable..s4 is way overboard to me. I loved the tiny dosages of supernatural in s1, just not hitting for me here. They still got a few episodes to surprise me tho and I will still be watching!
I don’t think there’s any supernatural stuff in the show at all. I think Navarro has a history of mental illness with hallucinations in her family. I think there was a lot going on in the scene with the hunters going berserk right before the patient started taking to her. I think some pstd and onset high stress is what made us think her seeing him talk actually really happened as we only saw it through her eyes. I think all the Sedna stuff, the TSAL biology research stuff, the “possesions” are all red herrings. I think what Annie uncovered is some fucked grave yard or evidence of the miners/police committing atrocities far beyond poisoning the water supply. I think her murder is just them trying to cover up what she found.
so far, it seems like they added the spiral to this season, just to tease that it connects to the stellar season 1. basically they used that to suck viewers in.
I’ve seen the 1st season 4 times and could watch it again… I’ll probably never watch 2 or 3 again. Ehhh Rachel mcAdams was actually kinda badass in season 2
Everyone has a problem with Vince Vaughan being a small time mobster, but no one ever has a problem that the female lead from Wedding Crashers is playing hard boiled cop into kinky sex and knives.
The show has been laughably bad. When the guy sat up in the hospital bed and talked to the (completely unlikable) detective, and she reacted like a brick… man what a joke of a show
still struggling with this programme . the first series bristled with character and discussion and had the same director . there where more obvious choices for the main roles but i suspect they wanted the narravo actress from the start and other actresses for the danvers role didnt want the role . its a guess . the problem i have is its uninteresting . when Narravo is on screen my attention wanders off . the clues seem to be sprinkled like bread crumbs throughout the story . i dont feel like there is an emotional hook with the characters . it also seems to be an 80% female cast ? i will stick with it .
You nailed it. The creepy Arctic Scandinavian setting and the central mystery of the caribou and frozen bodies gives X-files and the thing vibes. The problem is the characters are nowhere near as interesting as Rust and Marty. Then they drag the story with family drama fillers. Basically after 3 episodes there's not much progression of the central mystery. It feels like 80% family drama and 20% detective mystery. With so few episodes I hope it's not a ghost 👻 story reveal. Maybe it's a biological pathogen from the prehistoric era thawed out that spread to drinking water and can reanimate the dead into zombies. 🤞
The Ending was trash. I seen that same ending in multiple TV series on Netflix the last few years. When I first watched this it reminded me of a Norway TV Series Fortitude. But episode after episode the writer just seemed to make every male character an asshole no matter who he was. This was not writing of a series but a message to men and women watching this. So many not believable scenes that it was getting comical. The only real good part of this series was the Alaska background. It gave you a dreary and dark feeling to be scared. There were a few good scenes. But again this writer just destroyed a good backdrop, to produce a TV mini series like Fortitude. Never watching another series with this creator and writer/director. I do not want to see a political statement in my TV series unless it was a political. It reminded me of an award show that you are trying to enjoy and someone gives a 10 minute political rant.
no offense, but maybe you're lacking critical thinking to see the clues in the show to explain the "supernatural" away. Both Navarro's mother and sister have some form of high mental psychosis, which makes her more likely to contract a mental disease and would lead to delusions in her own mind. On top of that, she had just bumped her head on the ice causing a clear concussion, that mixed with her fears could explain the hallucinations. Never mind that even the first season had cosmic horror, Cohle taking so many drugs he sees worm holes in the sky... that was still a great season.
Cohle said he could always tell the visions caused by the drugs from stuff that was really happening. That’s why he blinks when he sees the birds fly into the spiral and why he gets distracted by the wormhole. If this ends up being hallucinations from dirty water I will be very disappointed. Bring back the one element from season 1 that hasn’t been touched since just to jerk the rug out from under people on it.
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 It's not a hallucination from dirty water... man have you even been watching the show? Both Navarro's mother and sister suffer from severe mental illness, causing hallucinations. She's in a really stressful case, dealing with her sister who is starting to slip further, you really can't piece together that those hallucinations are more so from a family afflicted with mental health issues?
@@FreddyMacT A difference without a distinction for me, and you still need the water to give a grounded explanation to other people experiencing supernatural stuff.
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 I disagree that the water has to explain anything, other than very few people (Navarro/the older woman) no one else is experiencing hallucinations.
Female writer, director, and show runner. Maybe it'll break precedent, but I feel we're watching strike three for TD.
Are we watching the same show? This season has been incredible for me, eerie, spooky, corporate environmental malfeasance, cosmic horror. The acting is believable and the stories are compelling.
Yeah I agree, it's like people forget about the cosmic horror aspects of the show.
I would have no problem with this as a stand-alone story, I just don't see why they had to drag season 1 into it.
I’m just waiting for detective Cohle to come back
Fk yeah we need Rust and Marty back. Didn't Rust run off to caribou north to work fishing trawlers for a decade.
I actually think it’s the best season since the first one. Don’t understand the hate.
100% agree with you! Loving every beside so far, the corpsicle was total FUBAR
Edge lords love to crap on things. Negativity gets more eyes.
All I’m saying is, if somebody were to throw hot coffee in my face, we would have more than words, I don’t care if it’s a 60 year old lady that did it.
True, it is assault lol
Our boy taking everything here at surface level 🤓🤡
As big of a fan i am of the show, specifically season one and I thought season 3 complimented it well. Season two let me down just based off of how great season one was. But this season has me incredibly disappointed. I want to love the show but in three episodes Ive left only asking more questions than I came in with , and only enjoying Jodies acting honesty. Ive just come to accept its already half over and theres such minimal detective work or answers to anything that I kinda just lost hope in it being good. Its supernatural or its contaminated water, and if it isnt its something thats barely been hinted right? I mean I dont want to watch 6 episodes to find that out, and I dont want it to be some dumb answer that was never foreseen or some twist like a Navarro alter ego and she killed em. From a writing standpoint, the lack of answers and only more questions when its already half over does what? I guess have me wanting to see whats going on next then hey yea.
I totally get where you’re coming from. I didn’t think of the water making people hallucinate or that Navarro has a split personality. Man if the latter is the case, I’ll flip out haha
@@SHOOKEARTHMEDIAtheyve shown dirty water and I really do think its from something in the water, or they are really taking the series in a supernatural route, and either one disappoints me because I just wanted a detective show similar to what you were saying. I hope im wrong and its some research that clark was invested in and killed annie and the other scientists for something, idek how this season can be answered for now.
@@adamrie3484 same, a bunch of hallucinations isn't really doing it for me, either.
This is definitely not going to be explained by supernatural answers. I agree so much about Peters wife yikes.That scene with Lund was definitely in Navarros head.
I certainly hope you’re right!
It wasn’t that bad. Come on man.
It’s been great so far
I'm kind of wondering if people "weren't that interested in the personal lives" of the marty and rust or the characters from S2 or S3, or what. This actually feels like less active character development in some cases than all 3 of the seasons before it.
It's got an X-files and the thing vibe to it so it's not a bad show. But I'll admit it's got more family drama than detective story. So 80% family drama and 20% real detective mystery. Like episode 3 basically nothing happens until the end the guy wakes up suggesting he's be reanimated like a zombie briefly before he dies. So more meat is needed on the plot.
@@vinayingle342 Well Rust and Marty was an interesting character study of their bromance so that was half the fun. Season 2 never watched but 3 was honestly boring but watchable. This season so far there isn't anyone near as fascinating as Rust and Marty. That being said it's great to see Jodie Foster back as a grizzled detective and the Arctic setting is always a winner. It starts off similar to that other show Fortitude which was awesome but with polar bears instead of caribou. But that ran for 2½ seasons. Here we only got 6 episodes so dunno how they're gonna weave a rich detective mystery if they're wasting run-time on so much filler.
He didn't say it's terrible. He's saying the truth. Which is; thus far it's very meh, and now it only has 3 episodes left with no likable characters and a good bit of paranormal stuff to explain. Now do you think the show will flip the script and develop the 2 leads into likable or at least interesting characters simultaneously ending their case to a reasonable extent in 3 episodes, or will this just end as another uninspired season of True Detective? Season 2&3 both had a lot of fans that where acting as if all was good in those seasons until the very end when they aired.
Horrible season
Other interpretations other than supernatural occurances include mental illness (schizophrenia runs in Navarros family) or hallucinations caused by poisoning from the water. Or both
About the phone: they probably called the phone company to give them access to
Good points. I don’t think phone companies can unlock the phone, they can just send phone records and texts and whatnot, but I can let that one go, honestly
Good or not, I don't think the first 3 seasons had anything to do with supernatural stuff.
As long as it doesn’t END with a supernatural conclusion I think I can look past it. For now it’s…distracting, at best.
Hopefully it's not a ghost 👻 story. Maybe it's a virus that reanimate the dead into zombies so the scientists all ran off scared. But that doesn't explain why they're all naked in the cold
If it doesn’t end with something supernatural being involved it will be remembered as being worse than season 2.
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 haha that’s just how opinions work. I’d say the opposite, if it does end up with supernatural causes it will be worse than S2
@@Looshington It may make you dislike it, but the season with supernatural stuff in it is pretty much unanimously viewed as the best by a wide margin.
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 hold on are we saying that season1 had “supernatural” stuff in it?? Because while that’s true in Rust’s case it was never a primary focus of the case or even really the character’s development. I think the portrayal of supernatural events in s4 and s1 are not even comparable..s4 is way overboard to me. I loved the tiny dosages of supernatural in s1, just not hitting for me here. They still got a few episodes to surprise me tho and I will still be watching!
Hey I seen they finally started production on the new star trek movie section 31 staring Michelle yeoh
Yeah I heard that, I know you're happy about that!
It’s mid
I don’t think there’s any supernatural stuff in the show at all. I think Navarro has a history of mental illness with hallucinations in her family. I think there was a lot going on in the scene with the hunters going berserk right before the patient started taking to her. I think some pstd and onset high stress is what made us think her seeing him talk actually really happened as we only saw it through her eyes. I think all the Sedna stuff, the TSAL biology research stuff, the “possesions” are all red herrings. I think what Annie uncovered is some fucked grave yard or evidence of the miners/police committing atrocities far beyond poisoning the water supply. I think her murder is just them trying to cover up what she found.
so far, it seems like they added the spiral to this season, just to tease that it connects to the stellar season 1. basically they used that to suck viewers in.
True, also supposedly the guy the lady who found the bodies was hooking up with is actually Rust's dad.
I’ve seen the 1st season 4 times and could watch it again… I’ll probably never watch 2 or 3 again. Ehhh Rachel mcAdams was actually kinda badass in season 2
Yeah I need to watch season 1 again
Everyone has a problem with Vince Vaughan being a small time mobster, but no one ever has a problem that the female lead from Wedding Crashers is playing hard boiled cop into kinky sex and knives.
So at least we all know how Hollywood always taking a jab at God.
Like how?
The show has been laughably bad. When the guy sat up in the hospital bed and talked to the (completely unlikable) detective, and she reacted like a brick… man what a joke of a show
Clark killed Annie because he found out she was using him to get into Tsalal.
I really liked it.
I thought the second episode was alot better than the first I haven't watched this episode yet but I'm going to
Yeah as the investigation gets more underway, it’s definitely an improvement
still struggling with this programme . the first series bristled with character and discussion and had the same director . there where more obvious choices for the main roles but i suspect they wanted the narravo actress from the start and other actresses for the danvers role didnt want the role . its a guess . the problem i have is its uninteresting . when Narravo is on screen my attention wanders off . the clues seem to be sprinkled like bread crumbs throughout the story . i dont feel like there is an emotional hook with the characters . it also seems to be an 80% female cast ? i will stick with it .
You nailed it. The creepy Arctic Scandinavian setting and the central mystery of the caribou and frozen bodies gives X-files and the thing vibes. The problem is the characters are nowhere near as interesting as Rust and Marty. Then they drag the story with family drama fillers. Basically after 3 episodes there's not much progression of the central mystery. It feels like 80% family drama and 20% detective mystery. With so few episodes I hope it's not a ghost 👻 story reveal. Maybe it's a biological pathogen from the prehistoric era thawed out that spread to drinking water and can reanimate the dead into zombies. 🤞
@@jonfreeman9682 agree buddy woke shite ,talk and talk about a "sexuality issues"
The Ending was trash. I seen that same ending in multiple TV series on Netflix the last few years. When I first watched this it reminded me of a Norway TV Series Fortitude. But episode after episode the writer just seemed to make every male character an asshole no matter who he was. This was not writing of a series but a message to men and women watching this. So many not believable scenes that it was getting comical. The only real good part of this series was the Alaska background. It gave you a dreary and dark feeling to be scared. There were a few good scenes. But again this writer just destroyed a good backdrop, to produce a TV mini series like Fortitude. Never watching another series with this creator and writer/director. I do not want to see a political statement in my TV series unless it was a political. It reminded me of an award show that you are trying to enjoy and someone gives a 10 minute political rant.
Are people high? This season is pretty good. Season 2 sucks balls.. season 3 was good, just boring. This season at least has suspense and mystery
Pretty mids so far to be completely honest.
I like this breakdown. No need for the misleading tagline. Lund looks like the leprosy guy from It.
Thanks. I don't mean to be misleading. The supernatural stuff is embarrassing, imo. It's just not the whole story, you know?
Aaah, ok, I get you. My bad. Yeah, it is way too surface for what I’m used to with this series. Agreed.
All good! I admit the title comes off a lot harsher than the video. Yeah I agree, it lacks the depth of the first season
The worst show I have ever seen.
I’ve definitely reviewed much worse on this channel lol
This show is straight trash
this so is so bad you cannot even do a review of it because nothing makes sense.
I’m trying my best lol
Really??
no offense, but maybe you're lacking critical thinking to see the clues in the show to explain the "supernatural" away. Both Navarro's mother and sister have some form of high mental psychosis, which makes her more likely to contract a mental disease and would lead to delusions in her own mind. On top of that, she had just bumped her head on the ice causing a clear concussion, that mixed with her fears could explain the hallucinations. Never mind that even the first season had cosmic horror, Cohle taking so many drugs he sees worm holes in the sky... that was still a great season.
Cohle said he could always tell the visions caused by the drugs from stuff that was really happening. That’s why he blinks when he sees the birds fly into the spiral and why he gets distracted by the wormhole.
If this ends up being hallucinations from dirty water I will be very disappointed. Bring back the one element from season 1 that hasn’t been touched since just to jerk the rug out from under people on it.
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 It's not a hallucination from dirty water... man have you even been watching the show? Both Navarro's mother and sister suffer from severe mental illness, causing hallucinations. She's in a really stressful case, dealing with her sister who is starting to slip further, you really can't piece together that those hallucinations are more so from a family afflicted with mental health issues?
@@FreddyMacT A difference without a distinction for me, and you still need the water to give a grounded explanation to other people experiencing supernatural stuff.
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 I disagree that the water has to explain anything, other than very few people (Navarro/the older woman) no one else is experiencing hallucinations.