Why Did Socrates Die? Alcibiades Edition | Polandball/Countryball History and Philosophy

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  • @CallMeEzekiel
    @CallMeEzekiel  4 роки тому +73

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  • @noaccount4
    @noaccount4 4 роки тому +178

    Of worthy note is that one of Socrates's students was a lovely chap called Xenophon, who led 10,000 Greek Hoplites through the entire Persian Empire whilst under constant attack and outnumbered by a few million men. It's a long and hilarious story starting with Xenophon not even supposed to be there - and his last contact with Socrates was Socrates berating him for asking the oracle "when should I go" instead of "should I go," with Socrates knowing Xenophon was cheating the gods. Must've been really sad arriving home only to find Socrates was dead.
    Even funnier is that Socrates taught Plato, and Plato taught Aristotle - whose student Alexander traced the footsteps of Xenophon, leading his armies throughout Persia and the known world.

    • @akiamini4006
      @akiamini4006 3 роки тому +2

      I dont get it how is that funny bruh

    • @noaccount4
      @noaccount4 3 роки тому +15

      @@akiamini4006 It's a small world full of weird coincidences

    • @CallMeEzekiel
      @CallMeEzekiel  3 роки тому +27

      You might enjoy this: ua-cam.com/video/yBe9tp0xT-4/v-deo.html

  • @lucianoprea983
    @lucianoprea983 4 роки тому +375

    I love the fact that the chanel that helped me learn Vic 2 and ck2 is now a history ball chanel.

    • @Uranium-jj7le
      @Uranium-jj7le 4 роки тому +33

      And quite a good one at that

    • @TrafficPartyHatTest
      @TrafficPartyHatTest 3 роки тому +2

      So it got better?

    • @FoxHat
      @FoxHat 3 роки тому +3

      He thought us the games and the history played out in them so that we can make our own

    • @cookiemuffin3208
      @cookiemuffin3208 3 роки тому +2

      Here's to hoping he helps us learn vic 3

    • @goose93
      @goose93 Рік тому

      I still don't understand ck2

  • @MegaTang1234
    @MegaTang1234 4 роки тому +132

    Alcibiades literally ruined everything. That's pretty impressive.

    • @Ian-yf7uf
      @Ian-yf7uf 2 роки тому +3

      All because he was hot. This doesn't even get into Alcibiades sleeping with the spartan kings wife and the Persians kings wife.

  • @thelordofcringe
    @thelordofcringe 4 роки тому +112

    Something to keep in mind is that nearly all records of Alcibiades are from people who hated him.
    And they made him sound that damn impressive, which makes you wonder just how much more amazing he was in reality.

    • @powerist209
      @powerist209 3 роки тому +7

      Well, Plato too, and he was his cousin.
      Then again not getting well paid jobs and stigmatized due to his relations might sour his opinion.

    • @Ian-yf7uf
      @Ian-yf7uf 2 роки тому +1

      Alcibiades faced the equivalent of Athenian special forces in gold armor rather than run for the rest of his life. Also, he slept with a ton of kings wives and did some other amazing stunts.

  • @MahDryBread
    @MahDryBread 4 роки тому +130

    Not enough channels use Age of Mythology music. Seriously, awesome soundtrack.
    It's cool to finally get to learn some of this stuff! Most of the stuff I learned about this time period would have been taught to me before I had an interest in history so I probably wasn't paying attention at the time.

    • @zealandsword9557
      @zealandsword9557 2 роки тому +1

      Brought back memories from my childhood for sure.

  • @oscarwind4266
    @oscarwind4266 3 роки тому +42

    In my 9th grade history class a cult was formed around my teacher and she joked that my classmates parents where going to acuse her of Corrupting the Youth and force her to drink hemlock.

    • @max7971
      @max7971 2 роки тому

      Imagine my shock, when parents don’t want to see their children pulled into a “cult” focused around some midwit who manipulates 15 year olds.

    • @oscarwind4266
      @oscarwind4266 2 роки тому

      @@max7971 oh come on, the school is full of joke cults like that. There's a cult to the bald members of the administration, a cult to a freind of mine's toes, a cult of lammasus. I don't why my school is full of them but it sure is funny

    • @goose93
      @goose93 Рік тому +1

      A cult formed around your teacher? How?

    • @oscarwind4266
      @oscarwind4266 Рік тому +1

      @goose93 I dunno. Some joke we started, it wasn't like an actual cult, where anything werid happened, just a running gag.

  • @Dataism
    @Dataism 4 роки тому +146

    1:49 Wait a second, isn't this the same logic post-modernism follows? Doesn't this mean that post-modernism is just neo-sophistiry?

    • @joey199412
      @joey199412 4 роки тому +84

      Fun fact. Sophistry was the dominant philosophy in every society before collapse. It's seen as a sign of intellectual stagnation that results in eventual collapse of society. It happened with the Bronze Age Collapse. The Han collapse in China. The Indus Valley civilization collapse in India. And the start of the dark ages at the time of the Western Roman Empire's collapse.
      Sophism becoming more prominent again. Could signal that society is once again stagnating intellectually and we might be in for a collapse in a couple of centuries if it continues.

    • @DerPinguim
      @DerPinguim 3 роки тому +40

      @@joey199412 Someone save this comment for in a few hundred years you might be considered a genius for predicting the fall of modern civilization

    • @caiawlodarski5339
      @caiawlodarski5339 3 роки тому +17

      @@joey199412 Source ? This seems like made up bullshit

    • @MrAntraxico
      @MrAntraxico 3 роки тому +22

      @@joey199412 Fun fact when you put "fun fact" before your sentence it has 75% probability of not being true and 80% probability of being read in its entirety.

    • @artofthepossible7329
      @artofthepossible7329 3 роки тому +5

      Pretty much.
      For the more modern influence, observe Nietzsche.

  • @yaboistuds7087
    @yaboistuds7087 4 роки тому +17

    This channel is so underrated

  • @maciejkamil
    @maciejkamil 4 роки тому +23

    I always thought that Socrates was completely innocent. This video helped me to understand why he was sentenced to death. Thanks!

  • @tyrannicfool2503
    @tyrannicfool2503 4 роки тому +8

    I just want to say I love this countryball content, I found you because of your Vic 2 videos and I stayed because of your new content. 11/10 would sub again

  • @P99s-s
    @P99s-s 4 роки тому +6

    I hear that furi ost, great videos and great channel,I will watch anything you put out at this point

  • @Maxi25554
    @Maxi25554 4 роки тому +11

    The whole oligarchy vs democracy thing is just another argument that history rhymes.

  • @Mr.Flame2000
    @Mr.Flame2000 4 роки тому +7

    Im loving these new videos they're all perfect

  • @microlobbies2378
    @microlobbies2378 4 роки тому +13

    God I want Pythagoras and the bean stalk story

  • @minecraft37007
    @minecraft37007 4 роки тому +27

    Hey, I love your history videos, but it seems they don't get much views. Why don't you make your gaming videos anymore?

    • @CallMeEzekiel
      @CallMeEzekiel  4 роки тому +36

      I had been wanting to start making history/humanities videos for a while, and a good opportunity presented itself after I finished making the EvE Online video because that's when I ran out of games I wanted to cover.
      By the way, the relative viewership is deceptive. The earlier gaming videos got their tens (and sometimes hundreds) of thousands of views over the course of months and years. The history/humanities videos are still young. Besides, the more I make these videos, the larger their fanbase will become -> which means faster growth of the fan-base -> which means a larger fanbase -> which will create a positive cycle. That's one of the key reasons the gaming videos are doing so well now. We just have to recreate that for the history/humanities videos, which you can help by sharing them.
      I hope this clears things up!

    • @enclavesoldier8893
      @enclavesoldier8893 2 роки тому +1

      @@CallMeEzekiel May I say that you have made a great choice, I am glad you’ve done it and I wish you well in your future career on UA-cam.

  • @Tarik360
    @Tarik360 2 роки тому +2

    2:10
    YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THIS ARGUMENT STRETCHED *THAT* FAR BACK?

  • @marcofrank6542
    @marcofrank6542 4 роки тому +3

    why do you have 20k subs this is absolutley amazing

  • @serathus3201
    @serathus3201 4 роки тому +12

    Heyy looks like I'm first, excited for this video :)

  • @Bornchristmas
    @Bornchristmas 4 роки тому +2

    Your videos make me happy, thank you.

  • @minecraftia7626
    @minecraftia7626 4 роки тому +3

    Hey idk if you still do anything Vic2 related, but if you do, can you make a guide to an imperialistic/colonial USA? I've been thinking about starting a game with that mindset but I want a good direction to head towards. (Also idk if this would change the guide but I also plan on converting the save to HOI4 when completed.) It would be base vic2 with Heart of Darkness and A House Divided.

  • @finntraynor3904
    @finntraynor3904 4 роки тому +3

    I really liked this video !

  • @jdsonical
    @jdsonical 4 роки тому +48

    he is the new brain4breakfast!
    rip brain4breakfast, you will be missed

    • @zaikolebolsh5724
      @zaikolebolsh5724 4 роки тому +10

      I don't think this is of good taste, I have a bit of a taboo with "replacing" those who are gone

    • @PatriotMapper
      @PatriotMapper 3 роки тому +1

      B4B will always be missed, but don’t let greif control you. Enjoy CallMeEzeike because it’s good, not a ‘new’ brain4breakfast.

  • @aidan-4759
    @aidan-4759 4 роки тому +2

    Another great video!

  • @casparvoncampenhausen5249
    @casparvoncampenhausen5249 3 роки тому +3

    I think Socrates actually only barely was ruled guilty, by ~7 votes (out of 201)

  • @byzantinereal3323
    @byzantinereal3323 3 роки тому +1

    Age of mythology music in the background

  • @gingerale2131
    @gingerale2131 3 роки тому +1

    what does the black owl with a yellow backround mean?

  • @Rayndrops
    @Rayndrops 4 роки тому +6

    Plato was not a liar fite me

  • @ferred3056
    @ferred3056 Рік тому

    5:31 assassin's creed odyssey players:
    THAT EXPLAINS A LOT!!

  • @arami187
    @arami187 9 місяців тому

    "Socrates was charged for Corrupting the Youth"
    *Boy Buggering stops.

  • @althesilly
    @althesilly 3 роки тому +1

    After listening to this video......everything that is old is new again.

  • @CyberneticOrganism01
    @CyberneticOrganism01 3 роки тому +1

    Subtitles aren't working... don't know why. The language defaults to Vietnamese and automatic translation doesn't work either. Kind of hard for a non-English speaker to get all the words...

  • @Т1000-м1и
    @Т1000-м1и Рік тому +1

    The Vietnamese subtitles funny tho

  • @parker2891
    @parker2891 3 роки тому +3

    Fun fact: Socrates and other philosophers believed in one concrete truth, meaning that experimentation and new ideas in Greece were pushed aside (including industrialization).

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall 3 роки тому +7

      I don't necessarily agree with that, at least for Socrates as presented in this video. He said there was truth, but that he didn't know what it was. So that would lead to more experimentation if you followed his logic.

  • @HowieDewitt535
    @HowieDewitt535 Рік тому

    Ah no, NEVER steal a Spartan's wife. I learned that from the time I and da boys helped our boy, Paris, steal a girl named Helen.

  • @logischernebel3513
    @logischernebel3513 4 роки тому +5

    How to play CK3 plsssss^^

    • @CallMeEzekiel
      @CallMeEzekiel  4 роки тому +5

      CK3 is pretty much just CK2 with prettier graphics. I go into more detail here: ua-cam.com/users/postUgxyt5aSxthqVpS9Vnt4AaABCQ

  • @Yuri-gf6bw
    @Yuri-gf6bw 4 роки тому +8

    absolute chad dies just to prove a point

  • @ElizabethMcCormick-s2n
    @ElizabethMcCormick-s2n 4 місяці тому

    Socrates obviously thought very highly of himself!

  • @rostdreadnorramus4936
    @rostdreadnorramus4936 3 роки тому +3

    2k likes vs 17 dislikes.
    Impressive.

  • @Ω3103ζ
    @Ω3103ζ 3 роки тому +1

    AGE OF MYTHOLOGY MUSIC AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • @lordvalen8133
    @lordvalen8133 3 роки тому +33

    "Socrates's speciality was in making members of that high society look like morons"
    Socrates was truly the Ben Shapiro of his time.

    • @MrJMB122
      @MrJMB122 3 роки тому +15

      Um no that's insult to Socrates.

  • @bumblingbureaucrat6110
    @bumblingbureaucrat6110 2 роки тому +1

    Sophists have returned in the form of post modernists

  • @leonidagrcka3979
    @leonidagrcka3979 4 роки тому +6

    No dislikes, cool....

  • @gbm6882
    @gbm6882 3 роки тому +1

    thx for reading books for us, I have no attention span

  • @akiamini4006
    @akiamini4006 3 роки тому +1

    Man you are so awesome thanks for all of this sincerly ! I figure i follow plato's beliefs BTW !😂😂 no universal voters and absolute freedom it is ! Thanks again man sooo much !

  • @MrJMB122
    @MrJMB122 3 роки тому +2

    This great video I cring every time you say Plato Liar. I am about to complete my undergrad in philosophy at Rutgers. I feel this is just not understanding Plato.

  • @TheDragonKing048
    @TheDragonKing048 4 роки тому +1

    Hey ezekiel I have a request if you are willing to do it for hoi4 can you do a tutorial on the mod millennium dawn it revamps hoi4 a lot and can be a little hard to play! If nothing else end of a new beginning a huge amazing hoi4 mod is also an option I would love to learn both but just one of them would be insane thank you! (Btw I'm asking because you legit taught me hoi4 in the first place)

  • @CliffCardi
    @CliffCardi 2 роки тому

    Socrates doesn’t hold a candle to Diogenes

  • @carlitoon9451
    @carlitoon9451 2 роки тому +1

    has anyone noticed how bad the captions are?

  • @yellowplate4539
    @yellowplate4539 3 роки тому +1

    So Crates!

  • @MrJMB122
    @MrJMB122 3 роки тому +1

    Honestly I trust Plato I've read everything the man wrote.

  • @Maxi25554
    @Maxi25554 4 роки тому +3

    "Violence is risky and unreliable" yeah like argument isnt

  • @stonystarkindustries
    @stonystarkindustries Рік тому

    its pronounced all-key-bee-ah-dees

  • @JamieZero7
    @JamieZero7 2 місяці тому

    Sophists sound like the communists. With their dialectics.

  • @itarry4
    @itarry4 3 роки тому +1

    Alcibiades doesn't have a k in it...

  • @isaacshultz8128
    @isaacshultz8128 4 роки тому

    Can you make a video about How to play hoi3

  • @Te-cm8kr
    @Te-cm8kr 3 роки тому +2

    Well the sophists seem to have a good point on that reason doesn’t always mean the truth. And we truly don’t know if this world is real for all things like considered we can live in a simulation as much if you live in gods hands we truly don’t know and if you read about the sophistic they discovered much of the true world today. As if you look at philosophers of Athens I would say they are mostly more wrong then right only look at Aristotle and Platon

    • @unknowngod8221
      @unknowngod8221 2 роки тому +1

      but then if reality isn't real why we exists is first place?

    • @Te-cm8kr
      @Te-cm8kr 2 роки тому

      @@unknowngod8221 idk it is up to each individual to decide for themselves what makes their own existence.

    • @unknowngod8221
      @unknowngod8221 2 роки тому +3

      @@Te-cm8kr well if reality is non exist then what all this progress mean to us? is it really useless we progress this much and wasted our time to know? for me sophist question (in my view it may be bias) do our progress is that unimportant?

    • @Te-cm8kr
      @Te-cm8kr 2 роки тому

      @@unknowngod8221 my point was that reason and knowledge dose not equal the truth. To find out the truth we will need to test it in the real world and that is mostly what the sophists did. While the philosophers thought the phosists did.

  • @kanekyrocryptic7853
    @kanekyrocryptic7853 3 роки тому +1

    Odd music choice

  • @AntonAdelson
    @AntonAdelson 3 роки тому +7

    Socrates is the original Jesus!

  • @fdumbass
    @fdumbass 3 роки тому +1

    Nice Furi music, loved hearing it