I am amazed that you put this stuff out for free. Dialogue editing is a guilty pleasure of mine. Coming from music engineering (which tends to make me anxious) I find working with dialogue very cathartic, relaxing, even thrilling! No matter how many tracks, takes, nudges, or splicing I have to do.
For some people it is a great fit. I used to enjoy it more but after I started doing more sound effects it’s hard to go back. One of the better dialog editors I worked with used to work high as a kite and did a great job due to being able to zone out and enter a zen like state while cutting.
Awesome trick at 7:50. I later used it on a scene to remove clicking and clacking from hand rings and jewelry. Great results without over processing the audio. 👌
The films I usually work on are low budget films not shot on a sound stage.. And the background on the dialogue is super noisy. What you've done here has helped me realise some mistakes I've made and also confirmed other decisions I made. So thank you and I look forward to the next video!
Great video here Thomas. Very well articulated. Could you do one one specifically for processing dialogue at the mixing stage? I'd like to understand how you would approach getting great tone with EQ, compression and other processing. Thanks.
You and I use the same techniques. However, I really love how you're using markers during the dialogue edit to quickly recall what you're editing. For me, that's one of the big takeaways form this. Looks to be a great time saver.
Great video. I'm just amazing at how fast you manage to find missing bits of sound. Coming from picture editing I would've somehow just taken much longer to find the alt line and the arm going down on the table. This is wonderfully informative stuff. :)
@@ThomasBoykin I’m a reaper user. What’s your kid’s venmo? 🤣 How essential is it to work in pro tools for post audio, would you say? I’m kinda married to reaper…
Another great video! I woudn't mind if you make longer videos, because i learn so much with every move you make. I don't think I came across so detailed explanation on dialogue editing on youtube before. I hope you will keep up with making videos. Will you also go through mixing dialogue, I'd really like to see how you approach mixing (especially cleaning dialogue with EQ, because I can't find any reliable videos online and I think its my weakness (probably because of poor monitoring condition (mainly working on headphones and checking on cheap focal pair of monitors, because of not so good room acoustics)). Thank you man!
Thanks! I will be going though mixing in an upcoming episode. I try to keep these videos under an hour for a few reasons. But one of them is I don’t expect to make any money off of them so I have to pay my bills by doing work.
Loving these videos Tom! I'm curious as to why you chose to leave certain sounds like footsteps in the dialogue tracks and not your pfx tracks. Would they not need to live in the M&E?
If there is breathing or other vocalizations the tracks need to be in the dialog stem. When I do an MnE I will go through and do further editing to ensure the MnE is fully filled.
This is great! I learn a lot from your videos. Do you think that Pro tools standard it’s enough for editing or the Ultimate version? Thanks for the video it’s really helpful
Hi, many thanks for your tutorials. It helps me a lot. I was wondering, when you work on a complete movie, do you do all the dialogue edits and then sound design and ambience or do you go scene by scene?
@@ThomasBoykin thank you for your reply. I admit that I was expecting this answer but I find it very exhausting to do so much dialogue. But it does make sense for workflow :)
@@ThomasBoykin I'm curious to have you elaborate a little more. What do you do differently between a high budget and low budget film to meet deadlines and client expectations?
Great tutorials Thomas! Thanks a lot. I’ve got two questions if you have some time would be great to know what’s your opinion. 1. Do you think using boom and Lav on the entire film , at every single dialogue line is it a good idea? 2. I’ve seen pfx some times to be routed to Dialogue Submaster and other times to Fx submaster. Of course make sense to send to FX but there are a lot movements, footsteps that happen same time with breathings etc. If I send to pfx I’ll have to fill the DX with room tone and at the end I’ll have a lot of noise from the room from pfx and the room tone on dialogue tracks. So what I do now is to keep these movements on Dialogue tracks so I don’t have any drops on the sound and I only place some wild sounds from the location on pfx with some denoise processing. What’s your opinion about it? I see you place some movements on DX tracks as well but the MnE version will miss these movements and only will come from foley (FX master).
1. No. 2. Depends on the sound. Big pfx that I will likely dip I fill the dx tracks with tone. If it doesn’t interrupt the flow of the dialog this usually works fine. Basically spiky transient stuff or completely clean pfx I will split off the dx tracks. I route these to the sfx sub.
@@ThomasBoykin Thank you for your videos and for taking the time to answer all these comments Thomas! I‘m curious, as I am learning from the people I work for I‘ve been using both Boom and Lav for my projects usually (aligned of course). Whats the reason as for why you wouldn‘t recommend it?
How would you deal with a scene that cuts back and forth between 2 medium shots (characters are sitting at a kitchen table), but the room tone is drastically different between the two shots?
Best dialog editing video I have ever seen. Amazing skill set on display here. Hard to imagine how this was ever done with analog tape.
I was lucky enough to see a little bit of it when I started. Razor blades and tape, no thank you
I am amazed that you put this stuff out for free. Dialogue editing is a guilty pleasure of mine. Coming from music engineering (which tends to make me anxious) I find working with dialogue very cathartic, relaxing, even thrilling! No matter how many tracks, takes, nudges, or splicing I have to do.
For some people it is a great fit. I used to enjoy it more but after I started doing more sound effects it’s hard to go back. One of the better dialog editors I worked with used to work high as a kite and did a great job due to being able to zone out and enter a zen like state while cutting.
I need a story drives every decision T-shirt at this point lol. Great video!
This is gold ! There is a lot to catch, to learn and to be inspired by. No matter the level you are you can learn from this. Thanks Thomas !
Totally!
Dialog editing ain't boring. I love it haha! Thank you Thomas!
Thanks. It seems like more people want to get into sfx. But the money is better in dialog editing.
Awesome trick at 7:50.
I later used it on a scene to remove clicking and clacking from hand rings and jewelry. Great results without over processing the audio. 👌
The films I usually work on are low budget films not shot on a sound stage.. And the background on the dialogue is super noisy.
What you've done here has helped me realise some mistakes I've made and also confirmed other decisions I made.
So thank you and I look forward to the next video!
Thanks for watching and glad to help
Wow these tutorials are incredible! I'm studying sounds design for film and television and these videos are a great addition to my studies. Ku-dos!
Hey Thomas, amazing video, thanks for the time and effort you put into demystifying and showing your process in detail. Grealy appreciated
how much of free information you are giving. love you mannnnnn
Happy to help!
Thank you!!! This was amazing detail and transparency!!!! I learned "too much"!!!!! Just getting into this business.....extremely helpful!!!!!
Amazing video. Truly grateful for your time and effort to share your skills! THANK YOU! GOD BLESS YOU!
He does, and I hope He blesses you too.
Great video here Thomas. Very well articulated. Could you do one one specifically for processing dialogue at the mixing stage? I'd like to understand how you would approach getting great tone with EQ, compression and other processing. Thanks.
Great suggestion!
You and I use the same techniques. However, I really love how you're using markers during the dialogue edit to quickly recall what you're editing. For me, that's one of the big takeaways form this. Looks to be a great time saver.
I also really enjoy your method of color coding alts.
Great video. I'm just amazing at how fast you manage to find missing bits of sound. Coming from picture editing I would've somehow just taken much longer to find the alt line and the arm going down on the table. This is wonderfully informative stuff. :)
Great stuff Thomas! Enjoyed watching your process :)
Thanks!
This is a masterclass but for free. Thank you! You got a buy me a coffee link or anything?
You can buy my kids an ice cream and get a template in return: www.4lo-digital.com/pro-tools-templates/
@@ThomasBoykin I’m a reaper user. What’s your kid’s venmo? 🤣
How essential is it to work in pro tools for post audio, would you say? I’m kinda married to reaper…
Thank you so much for the tutorial! Learn a lot from your every step!
Another great video! I woudn't mind if you make longer videos, because i learn so much with every move you make. I don't think I came across so detailed explanation on dialogue editing on youtube before. I hope you will keep up with making videos. Will you also go through mixing dialogue, I'd really like to see how you approach mixing (especially cleaning dialogue with EQ, because I can't find any reliable videos online and I think its my weakness (probably because of poor monitoring condition (mainly working on headphones and checking on cheap focal pair of monitors, because of not so good room acoustics)). Thank you man!
Thanks! I will be going though mixing in an upcoming episode. I try to keep these videos under an hour for a few reasons. But one of them is I don’t expect to make any money off of them so I have to pay my bills by doing work.
@@ThomasBoykin Of course, ty!
Awesome ❤ you‘re such a help! Greetings from Germany
This was so helpful, thanks!
Great Tutorial! Very helpful
Hey thanks for your amazing content, where can we find these projects so that we can practice.
Loving these videos Tom! I'm curious as to why you chose to leave certain sounds like footsteps in the dialogue tracks and not your pfx tracks. Would they not need to live in the M&E?
If there is breathing or other vocalizations the tracks need to be in the dialog stem. When I do an MnE I will go through and do further editing to ensure the MnE is fully filled.
Great videos!
This is great! I learn a lot from your videos.
Do you think that Pro tools standard it’s enough for editing or the Ultimate version?
Thanks for the video it’s really helpful
It will depend on what you do. For just sound editing the standard version is good to start with.
Fantastic video series, thank you!
brilliant videos
Hi, many thanks for your tutorials. It helps me a lot. I was wondering, when you work on a complete movie, do you do all the dialogue edits and then sound design and ambience or do you go scene by scene?
Dialogue first
@@ThomasBoykin thank you for your reply. I admit that I was expecting this answer but I find it very exhausting to do so much dialogue. But it does make sense for workflow :)
Beautiful! But what do you do when one actor's lav is present in a scene and not in the next one? Lol...
Great tutorial! How much time does it take to edit a feature film?
It will depend on the budget. For most indie films I will be given 4 weeks to do a proper dialog edit.
@@ThomasBoykin Thanks!
@@ThomasBoykin I'm curious to have you elaborate a little more. What do you do differently between a high budget and low budget film to meet deadlines and client expectations?
Great video, Tom! Quick question, are you working on Pro Tools Ultimate or Studio? Thanks again, for your videos.
Ultimate
Great tutorials Thomas! Thanks a lot.
I’ve got two questions if you have some time would be great to know what’s your opinion.
1. Do you think using boom and Lav on the entire film , at every single dialogue line is it a good idea?
2. I’ve seen pfx some times to be routed to Dialogue Submaster and other times to Fx submaster. Of course make sense to send to FX but there are a lot movements, footsteps that happen same time with breathings etc. If I send to pfx I’ll have to fill the DX with room tone and at the end I’ll have a lot of noise from the room from pfx and the room tone on dialogue tracks. So what I do now is to keep these movements on Dialogue tracks so I don’t have any drops on the sound and I only place some wild sounds from the location on pfx with some denoise processing. What’s your opinion about it? I see you place some movements on DX tracks as well but the MnE version will miss these movements and only will come from foley (FX master).
1. No.
2. Depends on the sound. Big pfx that I will likely dip I fill the dx tracks with tone. If it doesn’t interrupt the flow of the dialog this usually works fine. Basically spiky transient stuff or completely clean pfx I will split off the dx tracks. I route these to the sfx sub.
Thanks so much for your reply Thomas. It’s nice to know the opinion from a pro audio engineer.
@@ThomasBoykin Thank you for your videos and for taking the time to answer all these comments Thomas!
I‘m curious, as I am learning from the people I work for I‘ve been using both Boom and Lav for my projects usually (aligned of course). Whats the reason as for why you wouldn‘t recommend it?
Excellent thank you so much.
Sorry if you addressed this already but what about subframe sync?
I would guess that 99% of stuff is edited on a system that is +/- 1 frame. Subframe sync is for nerds who don’t make a living in audio
What about dialogue panning based in the source of the sound and the position of the character?
It is case by case. But that is a mixing topic not editing
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How would you deal with a scene that cuts back and forth between 2 medium shots (characters are sitting at a kitchen table), but the room tone is drastically different between the two shots?
Fill both sides and deal with it in the mix
What headphones do you recommend ?
Beyerdynamic DT880 pro are what I use