ER Doctor FIRED & BANNED For This Patient Encounter - ER Provider Reacts
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2023
- This patient encounter made national news for some abhorrent behavior by this ER Physician. After spending the last few years in the Emergency Department as a PA, I share my thoughts on the recorded video encounter and what could've gone differently. This is how you should NOT treat patients.
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This ER encounter is absolutely unacceptable!
As an EM provider, I've met EM doctors/providers that are like this, but you never say all that in front of the patient, she was way out of line. Like we get burnt out & used to seeing a lot of BS in the ED, but that was a little much and unprofessional. We're used to seeing many patients sick or not sick, but ultimately the patient is not trained in medicine, so we have to validate their fears & work with them. This snobby/haughty emergency medicine attitude/culture is very common & very toxic. Like lets remember to act like human beings that function in a society and have emotions for 2 seconds. If you're frustrated, vent it to a coworker or someone else, not the patient like what.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Some of the stuff she said has certainly been said by ER staff - just not to the patient's face. I'm not validating her behavior, but she could just as easily vent and curse privately at her workstation.
Lol you shouldn’t be saying it out of earshot of the patient either. Yikes. People with such biases and prejudices do not belong in positions where they care for vulnerable people.
With the amount of young athletes dropping dead or collapsing from cardiac issues in the last couple years. she still should of treated it as potentially serious just Incase.
This is disgusting and there is NO EXCUSE for this type of bedside manner. I don’t care if he can sit up, she has zero right grabbing him and being aggressive. This is becoming more common than people realize. They have no bedside manner what so ever.
Sickening! I'm so glad they have it on video. I'm also glad the hospital banned this Dr. She should have her license yanked!
100,000 k subs is something I can see happening for you with the quality of your videos.
Thank you, the quality wasn't always there in the past, but I am fine-tuning my workflow. Repetition makes everything easier! The audio sounds better than my last videos despite using the same room. I appreciate the encouragement and comment
This MD gave horrible bedside care.Dispicable.Never swear at a patient. So unethical. Im sure this young man was anxious.
I would have been screaming for a supervisor. She didn't have the stethoscope in her ear when faking listening to his heart.
I can't help but think that she saw a black man in the ER and automatically assumed he was a drug addict.
Take her license .Shes a bully.
Do you believe race played a factor in his treatment? idk about PA but in NYS I could look up what he’s has been prescribed before as proof that he is prescribed anxiety meds. I’m a PA student and this worried me for HOCM, I just can’t fathom why any provider would act like this. He should sue her and or that hospital for malpractice since she didn’t even do even an EKG from what I’m seeing.
The patient & father speculated that in a small interview bit that I guess I accidentally cut out. Sometimes an EKG is done by the tech at triage w/ protocol orders put in by the nurse. Also, many states have implemented a drug monitoring program. In Pennsylvania, it's called the Pennsylvania PDMP. I can cross-check scheduled medications from out of state as well. It's easy to verify.
I 1000% feel that's the case. She's so absolutely hostile to him. This wasn't the first or last time she's treated a patient like that. An otherwise healthy male collapsing is very concerning. She's treating him like a drug addict faking his issue.
Love these reaction vids, really gives us insight
She would definitely undergo disciplinary action. She has a boss. And that’s why you record; for proof of the unprofessionalism and battery. She had no right to pull on his arm like that. She was a straight up B and needs to be reprimanded by her board.
On fire with The uploads! Love it!
Many more vids recorded and planned just have to edit like a madman! Thanks for the comment
She was super confrontational....
Great video, John!
Keep it up bro!
Dope man!! Hey so I’ve always wondered, could I work “part time” in the ER as a PA ? Or do ER PAs/MD’s typically only work full time shifts in the ER? I’ve always wondered great content bro! Been following for over a year now 💪 good to see ur doing solid
Yes, I know of PAs that will do part-time or per-diem (as needed) in the ER. Per diems usually work another job but offer their availability and will receive a handful of shifts according to when they're free and want to work. Occasionally per diem will fill in for someone who can't work last minute. Part-time can involve doing weekend shifts or some 2-3 shifts a week arrangement and everything in between. Thank you for the comment and following the journey!
Do you know what sucks is that everyone nowadays wants to film everything and make jokes about everything and make content about trolling and things like that and then when something really serious happens people don’t know how to act once you see a camera recording people don’t know how to act because everyone wants to troll about every little fckn thing now. She should have been respectful of the patient at the end of the day.
I have this problem with Dr's at er with my dr..and they know her health history..it makes me so mad..
She's in chronic kidney rejection..and she's treated like crap every time she goes in for infection..how do you know that's what it is..cuz it's non stop..we know more it seems than the Dr's at times..
My husband is a firefighter paramedic. He deals with so much absurdity from people and so do our emergency room employees. It’s super easy to get fed up, burnt out and jaded. Nevertheless…you do NOT lower yourself to these levels and treat your patients this way, under any circumstances!! Her unprofessional actions should cause her to be removed from her position immediately!
I think maybe the ER department should then tell their fellow Doctors not to send you to the ER or even tell you to go if you’re treating patients like an inconvenience or not “sick enough.” A lot of times they have been instructed to go to the ER by their family or specialty doctors. Most patients don’t want to have to wait 4-8 hours in an ER waiting room. I had such a hard time with an ER doctor once that the next time I had an emergency, it took my husband 5 days to try to convince me to go until he finally bundled me up and took me. Which I was put through a lot of tests and admitted because of mini strokes. I don’t remember a lot but my husband said I was telling the drs that yes I had a child and she was 6 years old. At the time she was 21. The neurologist asked me why I didn’t come in sooner and since I looked at her blankly my husband said because she’s been treated badly by other Drs that don’t believe she had any problems. Which then, please make a note of this, the neurologist told me next time to come straight in to the ER. So whom am I suppose to listen to. The advice to go in or the advice “you should be going in only if you’re on your deathbed?”
CDC MDH claims to say I can't get up. But alot of young people are drug seeker wanting his fix for the next few years ago CDC MDH AND DEA in the past visits where I have been trying to get a better understanding of demand for the next few years ago.
I'm almost positive she is in Arizona.
So what was actually wrong with the patient?
That was not revealed from the source video however he's alive and well enough to do a follow up interview.
This happened five years ago.
Sure, and yet I mentioned the incident to my coworkers/colleagues and they never knew about it. Does the time difference make it any less worthy of commentary?
And I’m sure it happened again yesterday.
This doctor was way out of line but the patient did seem to me to be exaggerating his symptoms. Claiming he couldn’t move or inhale. We also only see the parts of the encounter that the patient wanted us to see.
The whole video is a couple minutes long, and the only interaction with the physician, according to the family. I can tell you usually I'm not in the room for extended amounts of time unless I'm answering a lot of questions, doing a procedure, or the patient wants to chat about unrelated things.
I once told an ER doc I couldn't breathe while hyperventilating. Clearly, I could actually breathe, but I was panicking, and that's the only way I could describe what I was feeling. It didn't mean I was exaggerating. I just couldn't articulate exactly what I was feeling.
There were actually two women I recently watched videos on who the hospital staff believed they were “exaggerating their symptoms “ and both of them ended up dying one of a stroke and the other of a PE. And to top it off, the woman with the PE said she couldn’t breathe and was frantically yelling and the nurse said “you seem to be breathing just fine to me” and LESS THAN AN HOUR LATER she was dead. Maybe we should just be safe than sorry in the emergency department, where it actually counts.
Idk if you are a provider but sometimes that’s just how patients describe how they feel. As a provider If a patient says “I can’t inhale” obviously we can see him inhale, he’s trying to communicate to us that he’s SOB. If your patient says he “can’t sit up” obviously he can sit up, he’s saying he is weak. As providers it is our job to try to understand what our patient is trying to communicate, when we stop expecting providers to do simple things like interpret what their patients are trying to tell us, we end up endangering our own loved ones when it’s them. Let’s not encourage assuming our patients are lying
I hope they she her. This person is a disgusting human being that in charge of other human being. She’s so hostile for doing her job.
This was lowkey racism on that dr’s part. If it were a white man or woman, she wouldn’t have done all of that
The ER doc was definitely inappropriate and unprofessional here, but I feel like there must have been something before the recording started that set her off. Maybe the pt was being a dick to the nurses and staff, who notified the ER doc, causing her to have a preconceived notion of pt being "dramatic" and "uncooperative?" We'll never know because we only get the pt's incomplete video of the situation.
I'd play devil's advocate here and say that, although the doc's attitude could've been much better and much more professional, it is the ER, and personnel in the ER get really burnt out and,. unfortunately, get to see a lot of frequent fliers seeking narcotics that then give other patients an unfortunate way of being seeing as those narcotic seeking patients even if they're not.
I appreciate the insight! Some people go to great lengths to get narcotics and bounce from multiple facilities; we've seen it. But if this is burnout taking effect, that doc is beyond crispy. She's at the temperature of the surface of the sun. You can't take your frustration with the system and profession out on this poor guy.
Would you be able to further expand on ur point here? When the doctor said “you people just want drugs” it was very clear that she was assuming they were just drug addicts, I just don’t understand what your comment contributed? Are you asking us to sympathize with her? Genuinely asking. I promise you in this situation the devil doesn’t need you to advocate for him.
Burn out doesn’t excuse what this physician did. Horrible bedside manner and thinly veiled racism based on her particular choice of words when referring to the patient and family.
Unfortunately, like racism, poor healthcare access to black people/minorities is still common place because of prejudice.
If you’re so burnt out that you act like a dick, then just find another job.