a lot of this vid is incorrect, Liverpool were scouting Gravenberch at Ajax pre Bayern, it always was between him and Jude from the start, Jude was the A choice and Gravenberch the B choice even when Jude was at Birmingham. he also did not "fail to live up to expectation" there was no expectation from fans for Gravenberch, he was seen as a young player, for the future
The Turn at 10:29 is absolutely sublime. He takes out 6, yes SIX Players by letting the ball run across his body, while simultaneously Shielding the ball. so the only 2 possible outcomes are 1) He's Fouled, or 2) He strides away and is on the Attack. The kid is beyond Silky Smooth. As a Liverpool Fan, watching Gravenberch and Mac Allister every game is an absolute Treat. Especially after the years under Klopp where our Midfield was more about having the Legs and being Physical.
Thought the same, I guess Robertson and Fabinho were also flops when Klopp didn’t play them a lot in the beginning.? Don’t know why folk are so impatient with players nowadays.
@@antonburke2368 exactly..not all players adapt after 1 game :) some needs more time then others..i will call a player a flop when they never hit the high level..calling a player a flop after he played very few games is weird :)
Ditto. Heard the word flop, paused the video, ctrl+f'd to find people that agreed, and now I'm outta here. Calling a 22 year old a "flop" because they weren't outstanding in their first season in the league is ridiculous.
It’s just to sketch a change in his performance from someone who was not performing, which can be considered a flop when moved to Bayern Munich where he did not got a real chance to perform. So there is a direct danger that after 2 big transfers and not getting minutes, yeah I wouldn’t say a flop as well, but it’s a hard world.
It's quite obvious now that Gravenberch is the only one of the starting XI that cannot be replaced by any other on the squad, tactically speaking. His health and workload management should be crucial to this season's success
Good content and enough said about the relative logical very good progression and that continuous improvement now of Ryan Gravenberch just to become one of the best complete midfielders ! For Ryan Gravenberch was always already seen as a very 'talented' former midfielder when he started with Ajax Amsterdam at the age of 16 years young ! Greetings and best wishes from The Hague Holland
Everybody in football knew this kid had World Class potential, he has always had the attrubute Slott values very highly in thar role which is Press resistant ...other player who have this to the highest levels acrosss Europe, Jones and the youngest highest prsss resistant player in Europe right now is also on Liverpools books, Tyler Morton.....it has beem a really exciting Start under Slott...people slept on Liverpool ...they are not now ..ynwa
Gravenberch is the best midfielder in the world right now. He’s not putting a single foot wrong. The #6 role is clearly his best position. Brilliant player. ❤
in my Soccer manager 2022 game as West Ham I sold Declan Rice to Arsenal and replaced him with Zubamendi for half the money and I now have Cole Palmer for peanuts from Man City & Michael Olise! Michael Antonio seems to go on forever even though I signed Solanke
What are you on about calling him a flop. Klopp clearly sign Ryan as cover/ one for the future as the two in our midfield were well established in Mac and Dom. He was not expected to make a an immediate impact nor was even considered for the DM position. Anyone who watched Liverpool over the course of the season wouldn’t even come close to calling him a flop in the little game time he was getting you saw the flashes of why we signed him but again not expected to get any significant game time outside of cup competitions. Also anyone with a brain knew caicedo somehow got away with breaking this man’s leg in the Carabao Cup final and it was a lengthy spell on the sidelines that derailed the rest of his season as he struggled for fitness and just wasn’t the same. Calling someone a flop after not even a year the modern day fan
Bayern thought he was a flop but made a cool 20.500 million profit on that flop. But that shows how players from Ajax are too often misused by ignorant coaches . See Zyech( btw pronounced Zeezjejz not Ziak😅) Is it really that hard pronouncing the names of foreign players more or less correctly. And it's only with Dutch names .The most crazy names flawlessly, but Groot becomes Groot . In Holland one syllable double oo sound as your single o . Try it , you'll look much smarter. And far less irritating . One could expect a correct pronunciation, even from Dutch names.😢
Hes trying to play Jones at 6 when he can't tackle or read the game, hes a dribbler and forward thinking player so he can't put himself on a position to help hapful trent
Sloppy, klopp keeps putting square pegs in round holes, he buys a player that's being playing here and tells them you have to play here, look at Curtis Jones
A lot of miss information here. Never heard of any intrest or approach for the teenage Bellingham at Birmingham City from Liverpool FC Liverpools actual best chance to to sign Bellingham at Dortmund waa curtailed by KLOPP him self as he flatly refused to push the agendas with his old german club in the season City bought Haaland at a cut price This is fact - there was no actual bid for Bellingham at any given time - the buy out clause Liverpool "couldn't meet" is a nonsense as they offered more than what Real eventually paid Dartmouth for Caicedo in the blink of an eye muchless Klopps favourite pet project tracked for years. We didn't move for Bellingham because he chose Real Madrid - no more no less.
1:12 yeah they paid $110 million for Caicedo before he rejected it ... Come on ..Don't be a PR mouthpiece for FSG ... They could and should have paid for Bellingham
@antonburke2368 so lfc could not have used Bellingham the past couple of years... You're being delusional... The Bellingham that carried Madrid when they were struggling in the early parts of last season
@ Oh not another one that throws accusations of delusion around as soon as they’re disagreed with. 😴… Look Mastermind, you’ve claimed Liverpool "could and should" have signed Bellingham, they clearly COULDN’T get him because he chose to firstly stay at Birmingham and then move to Germany.. Utd also tried to get him.. He then joined Real last season so HOW COULD WE HAVE HAD HIM FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS…. Hendo, Fabinho, Milner, all left at that time and Bajcetic and Jones weren’t good enough to take over yet .. Who you gonna play Bellingham with if you spend all the money on him..? It’s not about if I like Bellingham, I’d rather have what we’ve got than no Grav, No Szlob and no Macca than a Bellingham or Caicedo instead. I
@antonburke2368 it's like you decided not to read .. or maybe you simply forgot that they agreed a $110 million deal with Brighton AFTER they had already signed Mac Allister and Szobozlai ..so the money would have come from that Caicedo money lol
@ MacAllister was before but not Szlob … The point that you’re missing while "choosing not to read" yourself is that there were none of our senior DM’s left when Bellingham became available.. That made them change their stance from publicly saying Bellingham was number 1 target to "we need to strengthen elsewhere"… Yes they did agree with Brighton a huge amount for Caicedo but he was probably the best there was after Rodri and young.. I think you’re just probably too anti FSG to think about the balance of the team that is 5 points clear and doing so well.. Mosning when they’re flying and have been proven every bit right in what they eventually did. 🤷🏾♂️
a lot of this vid is incorrect, Liverpool were scouting Gravenberch at Ajax pre Bayern, it always was between him and Jude from the start, Jude was the A choice and Gravenberch the B choice even when Jude was at Birmingham. he also did not "fail to live up to expectation" there was no expectation from fans for Gravenberch, he was seen as a young player, for the future
I think you’ve way underestimated him. He was always good, just needed to find his feet
I think people forget his age
The Turn at 10:29 is absolutely sublime. He takes out 6, yes SIX Players by letting the ball run across his body, while simultaneously Shielding the ball. so the only 2 possible outcomes are 1) He's Fouled, or 2) He strides away and is on the Attack.
The kid is beyond Silky Smooth.
As a Liverpool Fan, watching Gravenberch and Mac Allister every game is an absolute Treat. Especially after the years under Klopp where our Midfield was more about having the Legs and being Physical.
He is elite midfielder already, soon gonna be one of the best midfielder of all time..
i stopped watching when you called him a flop...he never been a flop..learn about football before you make weird videos..lmao
Thought the same, I guess Robertson and Fabinho were also flops when Klopp didn’t play them a lot in the beginning.? Don’t know why folk are so impatient with players nowadays.
@@antonburke2368 exactly..not all players adapt after 1 game :) some needs more time then others..i will call a player a flop when they never hit the high level..calling a player a flop after he played very few games is weird :)
Ditto. Heard the word flop, paused the video, ctrl+f'd to find people that agreed, and now I'm outta here. Calling a 22 year old a "flop" because they weren't outstanding in their first season in the league is ridiculous.
It’s just to sketch a change in his performance from someone who was not performing, which can be considered a flop when moved to Bayern Munich where he did not got a real chance to perform. So there is a direct danger that after 2 big transfers and not getting minutes, yeah I wouldn’t say a flop as well, but it’s a hard world.
Thanks mate. I’m out. Made it 43 seconds. U saved me the trouble
It's quite obvious now that Gravenberch is the only one of the starting XI that cannot be replaced by any other on the squad, tactically speaking. His health and workload management should be crucial to this season's success
Gravenberch is turning into a class player. Can he take Liverpool and Arne Slot so some silverware in the manager’s first season in charge?
Heck yes
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I just wish Nunez would have the same awakening
I could be wrong, but I think he's slightly better than Bellingham. He reads the game better, although he plays deeper than Bellingham does.
He is brilliant but I don’t think they would fall apart without him
Good content and enough said about the relative logical very good progression and that continuous improvement now of Ryan Gravenberch just to become one of the best complete midfielders !
For Ryan Gravenberch was always already seen as a very 'talented' former midfielder when he started with Ajax Amsterdam at the age of 16 years young !
Greetings and best wishes from The Hague Holland
Thank you for the feedback! Stick around for more content ⚽️💪
its crazy when you realize gravenberch is only 22...
Everybody in football knew this kid had World Class potential, he has always had the attrubute Slott values very highly in thar role which is Press resistant ...other player who have this to the highest levels acrosss Europe, Jones and the youngest highest prsss resistant player in Europe right now is also on Liverpools books, Tyler Morton.....it has beem a really exciting Start under Slott...people slept on Liverpool ...they are not now ..ynwa
Ryan was never a flop
Endo was great last season. Gravenb played well too…
Form is temporary, class is permanent. He was never a flop, he was put into the wrong systems
Bro he was never a flop in Liverpool. His first season was better then Nunez and Szoboslai, not belittling them to much uplif him
Gravenberch is the best midfielder in the world right now. He’s not putting a single foot wrong. The #6 role is clearly his best position. Brilliant player. ❤
Not Zidane, He has the same playing style as Seedorf.
Slot also did this with kokcu at feyenoord who now plays for benfica, he became our star at holding midfield
Last season is not bad for gravenberch. He played 12 starters & 14 subs. A lot more than in Bayern.
He outplayed Bellingham twice when Ajax played Dortmund
in my Soccer manager 2022 game as West Ham I sold Declan Rice to Arsenal and replaced him with Zubamendi for half the money and I now have Cole Palmer for peanuts from Man City & Michael Olise! Michael Antonio seems to go on forever even though I signed Solanke
The fact that it took me almost the entire video to figure out the speaker was AI is so scary.
More likely sergio busquet on his prime.
you forgot to remove the template's biolerplate text at 0:29 bud
His a top player liverpool never fail on signing
Now I can't unsee Slot is Klopp merged with Pep 🙈
How the hell does Lpool do these things.
Suarez - 24m
Salah - 35m
Coutinho - 8m
Robertson - 7m
Grav - 40m
Some backdoor deals!
Gravenberch was 40m euros - so I recall it as a 34m deal but apparently 40m euros is about £33.3m. Even better!
Don't forget Endo & Minamino
@@arifsoetanto7533 Stop it!
2:51 cant wait 🤩🔥
I believe we need some reinforcement a midfielder, a left back & goal keeper.
Long season...
Not goalkeeper. We are strong in that department.
@sibusisoshezi9842 Long season mate...( You need someone like Alisson, Pepe, Dudek)
Gakpo is a left winger - not a midfielder. Nunez needs to change his technique at scoring. Going wide or over the top is not good enough.
He was always good,but his talent was allowed to come to the fore when he joined the best club football team in the world nuff said🤫
I would’ve loved to see the video in full but your transitioning is so bad between clips that I stopped midway. Try improving your transitioning.
3:30 they wish they had him now
What are you on about calling him a flop. Klopp clearly sign Ryan as cover/ one for the future as the two in our midfield were well established in Mac and Dom. He was not expected to make a an immediate impact nor was even considered for the DM position. Anyone who watched Liverpool over the course of the season wouldn’t even come close to calling him a flop in the little game time he was getting you saw the flashes of why we signed him but again not expected to get any significant game time outside of cup competitions. Also anyone with a brain knew caicedo somehow got away with breaking this man’s leg in the Carabao Cup final and it was a lengthy spell on the sidelines that derailed the rest of his season as he struggled for fitness and just wasn’t the same. Calling someone a flop after not even a year the modern day fan
Lol. We had our best ever start under Klopp when we won the league lol. I love how we’re winning things now but this is a bit too much really.
It's the best start from a 'new' manager
just like the boss claim: we have midfield players who can run run & run.
6:15 thank God we didn’t get him 🙏
recently fired manager is a diabolical label🤣
Bayern thought he was a flop but made a cool 20.500 million profit on that flop. But that shows how players from Ajax are too often misused by ignorant coaches . See Zyech( btw pronounced Zeezjejz not Ziak😅) Is it really that hard pronouncing the names of foreign players more or less correctly. And it's only with Dutch names .The most crazy names flawlessly, but Groot becomes Groot . In Holland one syllable double oo sound as your single o . Try it , you'll look much smarter. And far less irritating . One could expect a correct pronunciation, even from Dutch names.😢
Liverpool could have afforded to buy Bellingham. He just chose to go to Real Madrid.
Lmao. Klopp thinking he was a bad investment? What are you smoking dude?
Hes trying to play Jones at 6 when he can't tackle or read the game, hes a dribbler and forward thinking player so he can't put himself on a position to help hapful trent
I still think Stephen will be very very special wait and see
2:52 no I won’t
He was never a flop dude!
Yes, flop may have admittedly been slightly strong 😂
everyone is noticing though
Hahaha. Is that the same Tuchel that is going to lead England to winning the world cup?
To your caption, dude everyone has noticed.
Sloppy, klopp keeps putting square pegs in round holes, he buys a player that's being playing here and tells them you have to play here, look at Curtis Jones
Jones has been great this season so far though hasn’t he?
Everybody have noticed it already by this point, the scary truth !!!😅
What flop you metion ??:D
A lot of miss information here. Never heard of any intrest or approach for the teenage Bellingham at Birmingham City from Liverpool FC
Liverpools actual best chance to to sign Bellingham at Dortmund waa curtailed by KLOPP him self as he flatly refused to push the agendas with his old german club in the season City bought Haaland at a cut price
This is fact - there was no actual bid for Bellingham at any given time - the buy out clause Liverpool "couldn't meet" is a nonsense as they offered more than what Real eventually paid Dartmouth for Caicedo in the blink of an eye muchless Klopps favourite pet project tracked for years.
We didn't move for Bellingham because he chose Real Madrid - no more no less.
@10:52 Liverpool are 11 wins from 12 matches, are you sure?
Is this ai?
No
Yes AI{Another Idiot}
Lots of false information here. Come on, do a little bit of research.
@itsurboyhass this guy word for word stole your video
When did he become a flop???
Yeah flop may have been a bit harsh 😂
What a rubbish video. Well done. 👏👏👏
1:12 yeah they paid $110 million for Caicedo before he rejected it ...
Come on ..Don't be a PR mouthpiece for FSG ... They could and should have paid for Bellingham
If they’d bought Bellingham or Caicedo they’d not be as good as they are now..
@antonburke2368 so lfc could not have used Bellingham the past couple of years... You're being delusional... The Bellingham that carried Madrid when they were struggling in the early parts of last season
@ Oh not another one that throws accusations of delusion around as soon as they’re disagreed with. 😴… Look Mastermind, you’ve claimed Liverpool "could and should" have signed Bellingham, they clearly COULDN’T get him because he chose to firstly stay at Birmingham and then move to Germany.. Utd also tried to get him.. He then joined Real last season so HOW COULD WE HAVE HAD HIM FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS….
Hendo, Fabinho, Milner, all left at that time and Bajcetic and Jones weren’t good enough to take over yet .. Who you gonna play Bellingham with if you spend all the money on him..? It’s not about if I like Bellingham, I’d rather have what we’ve got than no Grav, No Szlob and no Macca than a Bellingham or Caicedo instead.
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@antonburke2368 it's like you decided not to read .. or maybe you simply forgot that they agreed a $110 million deal with Brighton AFTER they had already signed Mac Allister and Szobozlai ..so the money would have come from that Caicedo money lol
@ MacAllister was before but not Szlob … The point that you’re missing while "choosing not to read" yourself is that there were none of our senior DM’s left when Bellingham became available.. That made them change their stance from publicly saying Bellingham was number 1 target to "we need to strengthen elsewhere"… Yes they did agree with Brighton a huge amount for Caicedo but he was probably the best there was after Rodri and young.. I think you’re just probably too anti FSG to think about the balance of the team that is 5 points clear and doing so well.. Mosning when they’re flying and have been proven every bit right in what they eventually did. 🤷🏾♂️
Yep, poor analysis! A load of twaddle actually.
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