Ser Criston Cole is so caught up in his feelings it's crazy. Didn't expect Viserys to still be alive, but glad he was. Dude just seems happy to still be around, building his Westeros legoland. He's always loved Rhaenyra
One theory point out that the reason why Viserys is still alive is because the old maester (the one of the first episodes) has died and his metod of "healing" were replace with a new young maester that can treat him better, but still unable to heal him.
@@danielruiz8259 this! The dude that recommended some herbal something and was shut down by the guy that just wanted to continue leeching him...old maester was a leech himself. F*ck that noise and nonsense.
Viserys gonna outlive us all Final scene of the show will say '3000 years later' and his head will be in a jar inside a UFO, and he'll wink at the camera
Fun fact Viserys and Daemon both experienced the same thing with their wives Viserys asked can the child be saved Daemon asked will my wife survive It shows Daemon truly loved her
I love this . Viserys and Daemon are my two favourites so far, and I have always thought of Viserys as the good one of the two. But Daemon is the more compassionate. And stands for what he believes
Why would Visery ask if his wife would survive when he was told she wouldn't? He was told that she was going to die no matter what but the child didn't have to.
actually in the books princess Rhaenys has brown hair bc she’s half targaryen and half baratheon so rhaneyra kids having brown hair in the books was easier to not questions their legitimacy since they had one grandma with dark hair. they could’ve never been 100% pure valyrian
Rhaenyra reminds Viserys of his first wife so her leaving court with all the dark rumors surrounding her is what made Viserys think of Aemma. It's almost like he feels like he's failing her by not being able to protect their daughter from very real consequences that could come. Rhaenyra's actions could lead her to being exiled and her children being killed. Viserys might be weak but he loves his daughter very much which is why he's going along with whatever she's saying. He also probably feels like his children with Alicent are more of Alicent's kids. They all wear green like their mother. Also remember he married Alicent because he had so but he really grew to love Aemma even though they were betrothed.
Aemma was the only one who made the man out of him. Viserys is indeed love her more than Alicent, he even regretted his decision to put her on C-section in episode 1, to him, Aemma is the love of his life, and Alicent is the duty of his crown
Not to mention Lionel is the only person who never gave selfish advice to Viserys from the very start, even during the first episodes He was like Ned, a good man who followed the rules and did his duty but ended up getting killed unjustly because of someone else’s power play
His was good man and good hand but clearly not so good father. One son was a traitor and the other monster even by GoT standards. In the end it was both of his sons together who killed him.
@@anhkriva5274 No it was just the one son. Larys killed them, Its not Harwin fault that Larys decided to. Harwin Fucked up in other ways but their deaths are 100% Larys and no one else.
@@anhkriva5274Not true. Larys single handily killed his dad and brother so he could: 1. Become Lord of Harrenhal 2. Show his devotion to Alicent/the Greens Harwin was an idiot that thought with the wrong head, but Lionel and Harwin’s blood are on Larys’ hands full stop.
It's clear how different Rhaenyra and Alicent taught their children to behave, even though Rhaenyra's children are bastards, they still respect the elder (Jace and Luke asked their "father" Laenor to touch Joffrey nicely and Jace even asked the dragonkeeper to say Dracarys before), and they also respect each other (Jace let Luke to pick a dragon egg for Joffrey and thank him for that), whereas Aegon II is kind of a dick to his brother, Aemond, and arrogant to his elder (Harwin and Criston) in the training field, even Helaena looks like has a distant to her own mother, Alicent
@@SaintJust1214 what's the big deal of it? They're still kids, and did they plot the prank on Aemond? I don't think so, because it's highly implied that Aegon was the one planned it, even if he told Alicent he didn't
The king is turning a blind eye because he loves his daughter but even Stevie Wonder can see those kids aren’t Laenors. Ser harwin strong got some strong genes.
He knows Laenor is gay and in the end it doesn't really matter. She is the heir, power flows through her. They are her children... Laenor is just a prince consort, it could be any other man. It's very far from the Cersei situation. Her children are Targaryen and dragon riders... who cares what color is their hair??
@@Bayard1503 it ain’t legal…same reason Gendry wasn’t considered for the throne…the children are Bastards. Just coz u like their mother doesn’t change the facts
@@Bayard1503 That's...literally _not_ how it works. Rhaenyra's kids have _no_ claim to the throne. They are _bastards_ . It's exactly the same as when Robert Baratheon had no actual trueborn children. The throne legally passed to his _brother_ , Stannis, despite the fact that he had at least one bastard son. Rhaenyra is actually _stealing_ Aegon's birthright as next in line for heir after her, by lying and claiming her children are legitimate instead of bastards. By law, Rhaenyra doesn't have any kids who are eligible for the throne, so the birthright passes to Aegon. Her trying to marry her bastard son to Alicent's daughter was another attempt to try and pass her obvious bastards as trueborn kids. She made her bed and now you expect Alicent to help clean up this reckless and blatantly insulting mess, by marrying her only daughter to a kid with no true claim? That's absurd. If Rhaenyra was going to be honorable, she'd admit her fault and let the heir after her, be Aegon. But instead, she's hiding her dirt, and her father is covering for her, and Alicent is somehow wrong for not stfu about her son being robbed of his rightful place as heir.
@@mimi20101942 Plain featured means no white hair. She's not a targ by blood so obviously she doesn't have their hair. Meanwhile Rhaenyra and her husband both have the white hair and therefore the kids should have it if they weren't bastards
Legitimately touching just how much Viserys adores his daughter. And the way he held and talked to his newest grandson? I got emotional when he said, "a fine prince." You could just feel the love in every single word he spoke and how he looked at Rhaenyra and Joffrey.
Vhagar is a she, the queen of dragons, probably the largest GoT dragon alive that we will ever see on screen. She's one of the 3 dragons(alongside Meraxes and Balerion) and the only one left alive that helped Aegon conquered Westeros 300 years ago before this show took place.
It actually wasn’t just Harwin that died in the fire, Lyonel, his father, died as well. That was (probably) the body they showed on the stretcher that the soldiers were carrying out at the end.
couple of info about this ep, when the king said he got his father nose ( house strong are knowing for having a DISTINCTIVE noses) vhagar is the oldest and biggest dragon she was one of the 3 dragons in aegon conquest, in westeros religion ( the fight of the seven stranger is the god of death ) when harwin told her I'll be a stranger when we meet again its a subtle way to say I'll be dead, alicent kids are always wearing green I hate how they cut the scene where daemon was hugging and comforting his daughters it's like they just want to show his bad side
Editor must be like: *Daemon showing his grief with his daughters* Nah, cut it out. *Aegon doing a Homelander impression in the window* Put that shit in!
@@danielruiz8259 that aegon scene was prettt important, establishes aegon, his frat boy just wanna have fun mentality, showing he doesn’t want to challenge rheanyra and Alicent forcing this into him.
Theories i picked up this week: 1.) Dreamfyre, the dragon Aemond saw in the dragonpit that also burned him is the mother of Drogon, Rhaegal, and Viserion (Dany’s dragons). 2.) Helaena is a prophetic dreamer like her ancestor Daenys who foresaw the Doom of Valyria. 3.) Larys is a warg like Bran who instead uses the rats in the castle to spy on people esp the King.
Dragons actually essentially never stop growing. That's why the older, the bigger. It's not once a dragon is fully grown, it will only obey one master. It's when a dragon fully binds to a person, then it won't take commands from another.
They were both on baby no.3. The 4 dragons was just saying Daimons family had 4 people but only 3 dragon riders. The one daughters dragon didn't hatch. (The girl at the fireplace). Hopefully the next kid would, making 4 dragonriders.
@@MrFredstt her design was obvious, and Viserys knew it after he fired Otto as his Hand, but to him, Alicent is just a duty of his crown, and Aemma was the love of his life
I observed that Rhaenyra has a fair love for her children and Alicent is portrayed as a woman devoted to duty. Love and duty are the opposite force in GoT
"Love is the death of duty" as Maester Aemon Targaryen Of The Night's Watch once said. All the stories culminate to these two essential themes: Jaime tried to kill Bran because he loved his sister, Jon Snow forced to choose between his honor as a Night's Watchman or his love for Robb Stark as his brother, Robb Stark screwing over Lord Walder Frey for marrying a foreign woman put of love and having dire consequences to his tale. Even the tale of The Last Hero sacrificing his beloved by tempering a burning blade into her heart to save the world from endless winter night. I love that GRRM instilled that in all the stories of the books and it jumped into the TV adaptations as well.
@@rahjeel Alicent chose duty, which involved seducing the king dowager. This is of course a sacrifice for the sake of the family, but I would not romanticize it. You have chosen examples that support your position, but in the Game of Thrones, not everything is so simple. Who determines our duty and why is it more important than love? Duty led Ned Stark to a senseless death, not love. For the love of his family, he could have been smarter, but duty was more important and he put himself and his entire family at risk and lost his head.
Rhaenyra's words have zero value, she's literally just squeezing babies now(A thing that she views as beneath her. The lords of the kingdom don't like her, her authority can be easy overrule by the queen. I expect her to be a boss, but she's all talk.).
The training yard scene is my favorite part of this episode. Ser Criston masterfully baited Ser Harwin. Notice that earlier in the scene he looked at the ramparts and saw that the King is there. So he used this opportunity to bait Ser Harwin, and Ser Harwin being all muscle without brains took the bait. If he didn't assault Ser Criston, he wouldn't have had to go to Harrenhal and get killed.
masterfully lmao, literally everyone in the realm knows about it, viserys was there but couldn't careless about the "bastard" thing. you're acting as if criston is a master manipulator 😂
What do you mean! He's her mew Bestie didn't you say how Cole is now like glue to her after killing an innocent man!! She only talks about decency when it comes to Rhaenyra lol
He's a beast! He's even more of a beast in the books though. In the books he went up against Harwin in a couple different tournament melees and he beat him every time. The last time they fought criston f***** him up pretty bad, he shattered harwins collar bone & his arm. From then on he was known as Harwin "broken bones" strong.
Daemon didn’t tell laena she overheard the conversation lol you see her get up as daemon is talking to the dude and if you look back it look like he nods no about cutting her open when asked but like she said previously she wants a dragon rider death.
Just one thing, Alicent never slept with the King until they were married. What Alicent did was offer Viserys comfort. She took him through his grief by being a friend and close confidant, which is what he needed at the time.
He is crying because Rhaenyra left, but that isAemma’s ring, can you imagine this guy so in love with his dead wife, that he understands that he murdered, ever doing anything to hurt her grandchildren?
Miguel Sapochnik said that this whole episode was meant to feel like another pilot for the show and DAMN he was right! I am going to miss the old cast but the new cast is just as amazing. And this whole episode reinforces my belief that hereditary hierarchies cause 90% more harm than good to both “royal” families and the societies they are supposed to rule. Also as sad as it was I would’ve made the same choice as Laena made, not only is it a quick death but I would rather have it be said that it took a dragon incinerating me to kill me.
It's funny how Alicent always claims to stand on what's right and pure but trusted someone who snitched on his family and her former friend. So dumb lol!
She talks alot about DECENCY when it comes to Rhaenyra yet she went behind her back to get with her father after her mother and brother died and doesn't mind trash Cole that killed an Innocent man ... Do I smell hypocrisy???
Fun fact! At the Small Council they were discussing Lord Grover Tully of Riverrun, ancestor of Catelyn, Edmure, and the Blackfish. Its fun and interesting to note the names of Lord Grover's grandson, Elmo Tully, and Elmo's sons, Oscar and Kermit. They are Lord George R.R. Martin's ode to Sesame Street and the Muppets.
He is a LOSER. He was a sperm donor with zero legal rights. Fathered 3 bastards, cant even publicly show his fatherhood, had no clue how nasty his brother is, and end up getting deleted in his own castle
Laena heard Daemon and the surgeon talking about what to do. The fact that the baby wouldn't come, and that it was most likely not going to survive is what drove Laena to head to Vhagar. In the books, she gave birth but the child was misshapen and did not survive. Laena was dying and went to Vhagar, not to be burned, but to have one last ride. But she collapsed and died before she could reach her. So sad. I feel like the show did Harwin so wrong. He played a larger part in the story than what they showed us. He goes to Driftmark with Rhaenyra for Laena's funeral. He was there longer. Good daddies just don't survive long in Westeros.
I dont understand why alicent is so salty at Rhaenyra to begin with. like Ma'am you and your father maneuvered yourself into the situation as queen 6 months after your best friend's mom died. Knew she was upset and grieving told her absolutely nothing about you "visiting" her dad yet she gets pissed because rhaenyra went out with daemon because she's salty she can't do whatever she wants because her father put her in that position. Not to mention her father also wanted Rhaenyra as heir b4 all the bullshit because he didnt want daemon to be heir. The kids don't even want to be part of this and just are content to be kids and alicent is pushing her agenda on her son. Then gets on Rhaenyra because she's not having sex with her gay husband.
@@mimi20101942 nah she’s all those things and more but in the eyes of the court and the law they all abide by she’s 100% in the right. Rhae need to stop having these damn outside the marriage babies😂 she can fuck whoever she want that was what her and her husband agreed upon but having the fucking kids is a different story especially putting them on the throne!! Having a kid with that man got him killed rather it was some bs or not
vhagar is the oldest and biggest dragon alive at the time, and is also a female dragon lol but she was one of the dragons in aegons conquest to take over Westeros belonging to aegons sister.
Random thing but, at 6:30 the dragon Aemond approaches, Dreamfyre, is actually where the eggs for Daenerys's dragons came from. You can see in a more brightened version of the scene that Dreamfyre looks alot like dany's dragons which is a nice touch
Just want to say it is so good to see a group of young adults watching this with fervor and making great comments and analyses. Kudos to you three. subscribed and will watch every one you make.
He wasn’t really once harwin decided to stick his head in the situation he just goaded him into all but admitting they are his bastard children. Before that at most he was just giving more attention to aegon.
@@neneray310 But to still be so salty after 10 years? He wouldn't have acted the way he did with those kids if he had never smashed and was still the Princess's personal guard
@@ryzmckenzie in those ten years he has seen rheanyra to continue to break so many rules, act like a privileged brat, pass her bastards off as legitimate and get away with all of it. Bastards, whether or not he hooked up with her beforehand, would probably not be looked upon all that great by himself and many others. A bastard cannot inherit and die to their mother machination they will inherit the throne instead of a true born child like Aegon, aemon or healana.
@@neneray310 Criston didn't seem like he cared about the rules when he asked her to run away with him. Or sleep with the one he was sworn to protect. The Princess had to deal with the cards she's been dealt too. It's not her fault that her husband can't get it up with women
Oh yeah and that other Maestor that suggested a herbal remedy, but was shot down by the Grand Maester, well the old guy died so he became Grand Maester, and I feel like that's the only reason Viserys is still alive lol
12:34 I mean he set out to do what he did, he baited the hell out of him and it worked miraculously so I would be laughing too since in my head it would be a win
Yeah he deserved to be beheaded because fathering bastards with the crown princess is high treason. It's one of the highest crimes in Westeros because you're interfering with the line of succession.
It's not so much that the children have light skin compared to their father, the same thing happend in real life all the time, in some sense what viserys says is right. It's the fact that both their mother and "father" are pure valyrian and have the white/silver hair to show it, but somehow the kids have brown hair
If lupa werent trynna crack jokes every 3 seconds he can pay attention to the show enough to know laena and daemon were a thing and ser harwin was the son of the hand
I like him, but that's the only big flaw in this channel, it's not much the talking but laughing loudly for several seconds distracts him from paying attention, and it kind of ruins the immersion.
3:59. As a more common one would be Jacaerys, or Lucerys. Also this one's named after Laenor's death boyfriend. 4:13. Fire & Blood readers: *Press X to doubt* 4:25. Speaking of Jacaerys and Lucerys, there they are. 5:45. Huzzah! Mutton for lunch! 6:31. Everyone agrees this one is Dreamfyre. There's also the hint that she's the mother to Drogon, Rhaegal, and Viseryon, seeing as she looks just like them. I've already explained the Elyssa Farman story, so I won't include it here. 7:39. Or there will be rather painful consequences. 9:00 BRO! EDITOR! YOU COULDN'T HAVE INCLUDED THEIR REACTION TO SEEING VHAGAR?! SHE DESERVES SCREENTIME DUE TO THE SHEER BADASSERY SHE EXUDES!!! 9:22. As in House Targaryen's greatest enemies and the ones they've fought four different wars with this far. I include the War of the Hundred Candles, even if it was a completely one sided curbstomping via dragonfire. 12:11. Kick his insufferable arse Breakbones! 12:58. It has been ten years Lupa-san. People change in such a span, as all things do. Best examples being Viserys now has one hand and is balding, and Lyonel is now bald as well, not to mention Harwin looks like he was recast. 13:46. That would be Racallio Ryndoon, and the rumors are true. The hair dying is cultural. As for the dresses, Essosi are also far more relaxed with people's sexuality than Westeros, so they don't mind if a dude crossdresses. 16:12. *Spams X to doubt* Alicent, the Seven Kingdoms are going through a golden age since the final few years of Jaehaerys's reign. Nobody cares about court politics, and Viserys could've given an ambitious second son of one of the coastal houses to rule the Stepstones from Bloodstone, which is basically the biggest of the islands. There are a myriad of options: Vaemond of the Velaryons (the Master of Complaints from episode 3) A Redwyne, whose house has a personal fleet of 200 galleys He could've picked one from the Shield Islands, since they know naval warfare defending it from Ironborn more than once There's also House Farman, or Manderly or Borell from the Sisters(the islands north of the Vale), Tarth even due to proximity. Even the Celtigars or Bar Emmons could've been picked, the former being Valyrians alongside the Velaryons and Targaryens He even could've picked a Hightower to keep you happy. But instead, Alicent whispers in Viserys's ear and allows the Stepstones to fall back into Triarchy hands, and Targaryen trade is threatened again. 21:57. She technically, but dragons can change their sex when it suits them. 24:46. And there is a special taboo related to kinslaying in this franchise. 24:50. Ya think?!
@@crinjal_mrp It's my thing. Also these three seem to know a bit about Game of Thrones, not about Fire and Blood, which this is based off of, so I'm trying to help fill in any blanks.
Viserys is now the Crypt Keeper, Daemon apparently got over his "problems" three separate times, and the creepy guy with the cane (I forgot his name) needs a dirt nap.
There have been multiple time jumps. Rhyanera and Alicent were 14 when the show started and 14 years have gone by since the first episode. Daemon's wife's dragon is female.
“Villian origin story right here” Well…yes actually lmfao Aemond is gonna be great, he’s basically Daemon 2.0. I think because he fights for the Greens(Alicent’s side) he will be one of those characters the audience loves to hate!
Roshi is right. Rhaenyra only made that offer to repair friendships because now most people know that her sons are bastards, so she has to do something. And marrying her bastard son to a true Targaryen is a good way to strengthen his position as the next in line for the throne after Rhaenyra.
But it's ultimately just a band aid. It doesn't do anything to put Alicent's true fears at ease, which is the safety of Aegon and Aemond. Why Rhaenyra hasn't just flat out told Alicent that no matter what she won't harm them is crazy. And ofc Alicent doesn't like the idea of a bastard marrying her true born daughter. That's considered a pretty big insult in GoT as well as in real life medieval Europe.
@@MrFredstt That's true. And that's why it's a shame that most people are so shallow thinking that Alicent is just being bitter and jealous because Rhaenyra has been sleeping around. No, it has always been about the safety of her children since episode 5.
I still don't get why people act like Rhaenyra is so horrible when we all know Cersei did the exact same thing in GoT. At least with Rhaenyra she has a pretty valid excuse in that their families married them even though they knew Laenor was gay.
Ser Criston Cole is so caught up in his feelings it's crazy. Didn't expect Viserys to still be alive, but glad he was. Dude just seems happy to still be around, building his Westeros legoland. He's always loved Rhaenyra
Songs will be made about his incredible lego set
Viserys isn’t that bad of a dude. The people around him are just stronger and more opinionated I think
One theory point out that the reason why Viserys is still alive is because the old maester (the one of the first episodes) has died and his metod of "healing" were replace with a new young maester that can treat him better, but still unable to heal him.
@@danielruiz8259 this! The dude that recommended some herbal something and was shut down by the guy that just wanted to continue leeching him...old maester was a leech himself. F*ck that noise and nonsense.
Viserys is a good king i dont see one things thats bad bout him
Viserys gonna outlive us all
Final scene of the show will say '3000 years later' and his head will be in a jar inside a UFO, and he'll wink at the camera
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fun fact
Viserys and Daemon both experienced the same thing with their wives
Viserys asked can the child be saved
Daemon asked will my wife survive
It shows Daemon truly loved her
I love this . Viserys and Daemon are my two favourites so far, and I have always thought of Viserys as the good one of the two. But Daemon is the more compassionate. And stands for what he believes
Agreed. He doesn't always express his emotions well but he definitely a caring person
Viserys loved his wife but he felt that he had to live up to duty and birth a son. I don't blame him
Viserys also loved his wife but as a King he needed an heir, Daemon does not need an heir. Totally different circumstances.
Why would Visery ask if his wife would survive when he was told she wouldn't? He was told that she was going to die no matter what but the child didn't have to.
That targussy turned cole into a fiend
She got that dragon grip
thats that fire and blood magical Valyrianussy right there
TARGUSSY?! VALYRIANUSSY!?! LMFAO I"M DONE WITH YALL
@@Icy_815 BRO 💀
But not enough to turn Jon Snow ultra simp... because Wildlingussy hits different
I feel bad for the kids. They all seem to be cool with each other (for the most part). Its their moms pitting cousins against cousins
True. But it's uncles, an aunt, and their 3 nephews - Rhaenyra is the half-sister to Alicent's kids.
Not moms lol only Alicent…rhaenyra did nothing of the sort
@@Caraxes_RoguePrince truer lol
@@Caraxes_RoguePrince plus Cole
Only Alicent. Rhaenyra tried to make peace.
Roshi saying Aemond being treated like shit is a whole villain origin story. Farsight activated
actually in the books princess Rhaenys has brown hair bc she’s half targaryen and half baratheon so rhaneyra kids having brown hair in the books was easier to not questions their legitimacy since they had one grandma with dark hair. they could’ve never been 100% pure valyrian
Also laenor velaryon wasnt black in the books so it made it harder to tell
Baratheon is related to house Targaryen. Aegon the Conqueror’s bastard brother is Orrys Baratheon.
The two younger actresses did really well, I hope they're successful going forward. I was worried about the time skip, but Emma and Olivia killed it
Rhaenyra reminds Viserys of his first wife so her leaving court with all the dark rumors surrounding her is what made Viserys think of Aemma. It's almost like he feels like he's failing her by not being able to protect their daughter from very real consequences that could come. Rhaenyra's actions could lead her to being exiled and her children being killed. Viserys might be weak but he loves his daughter very much which is why he's going along with whatever she's saying. He also probably feels like his children with Alicent are more of Alicent's kids. They all wear green like their mother. Also remember he married Alicent because he had so but he really grew to love Aemma even though they were betrothed.
Aemma was the only one who made the man out of him. Viserys is indeed love her more than Alicent, he even regretted his decision to put her on C-section in episode 1, to him, Aemma is the love of his life, and Alicent is the duty of his crown
I feel bad for lyonal, the man was probably terrified every time he stood next the king, praying Viserys won’t notice his part in the gene pool
Not to mention Lionel is the only person who never gave selfish advice to Viserys from the very start, even during the first episodes
He was like Ned, a good man who followed the rules and did his duty but ended up getting killed unjustly because of someone else’s power play
His was good man and good hand but clearly not so good father. One son was a traitor and the other monster even by GoT standards. In the end it was both of his sons together who killed him.
@@anhkriva5274 No it was just the one son. Larys killed them, Its not Harwin fault that Larys decided to. Harwin Fucked up in other ways but their deaths are 100% Larys and no one else.
@@anhkriva5274Not true. Larys single handily killed his dad and brother so he could:
1. Become Lord of Harrenhal
2. Show his devotion to Alicent/the Greens
Harwin was an idiot that thought with the wrong head, but Lionel and Harwin’s blood are on Larys’ hands full stop.
It's clear how different Rhaenyra and Alicent taught their children to behave, even though Rhaenyra's children are bastards, they still respect the elder (Jace and Luke asked their "father" Laenor to touch Joffrey nicely and Jace even asked the dragonkeeper to say Dracarys before), and they also respect each other (Jace let Luke to pick a dragon egg for Joffrey and thank him for that), whereas Aegon II is kind of a dick to his brother, Aemond, and arrogant to his elder (Harwin and Criston) in the training field, even Helaena looks like has a distant to her own mother, Alicent
It's ironic when you think about it
That’s dumb as fuck, Aegon is just a typical teenager, Halaena and Daeron are good kids, you’re just looking at any excuse to hate on Alicent.
Also are you forgetting Rhaenyra’s bastards also bullied Aemond
@@SaintJust1214 what's the big deal of it? They're still kids, and did they plot the prank on Aemond? I don't think so, because it's highly implied that Aegon was the one planned it, even if he told Alicent he didn't
@@rfnugi Yes and Aegon's still a kid too, as I said you just look to any excuse to hate on Alicent and overlook all Rhaenyra's many flaws.
The king is turning a blind eye because he loves his daughter but even Stevie Wonder can see those kids aren’t Laenors. Ser harwin strong got some strong genes.
The seed is Strong.
He knows Laenor is gay and in the end it doesn't really matter. She is the heir, power flows through her. They are her children... Laenor is just a prince consort, it could be any other man. It's very far from the Cersei situation. Her children are Targaryen and dragon riders... who cares what color is their hair??
@@Bayard1503 it ain’t legal…same reason Gendry wasn’t considered for the throne…the children are Bastards. Just coz u like their mother doesn’t change the facts
@@Bayard1503 That's...literally _not_ how it works. Rhaenyra's kids have _no_ claim to the throne. They are _bastards_ . It's exactly the same as when Robert Baratheon had no actual trueborn children. The throne legally passed to his _brother_ , Stannis, despite the fact that he had at least one bastard son.
Rhaenyra is actually _stealing_ Aegon's birthright as next in line for heir after her, by lying and claiming her children are legitimate instead of bastards. By law, Rhaenyra doesn't have any kids who are eligible for the throne, so the birthright passes to Aegon. Her trying to marry her bastard son to Alicent's daughter was another attempt to try and pass her obvious bastards as trueborn kids.
She made her bed and now you expect Alicent to help clean up this reckless and blatantly insulting mess, by marrying her only daughter to a kid with no true claim?
That's absurd. If Rhaenyra was going to be honorable, she'd admit her fault and let the heir after her, be Aegon. But instead, she's hiding her dirt, and her father is covering for her, and Alicent is somehow wrong for not stfu about her son being robbed of his rightful place as heir.
Poor Aegon did nothing wrong, he's just a big fan of Dio.
"Plain featured sons" was Alicent catching herself from saying "bastards" lmaoo
she's also plain featured so i was confused lol
@@mimi20101942 Plain featured means no white hair. She's not a targ by blood so obviously she doesn't have their hair. Meanwhile Rhaenyra and her husband both have the white hair and therefore the kids should have it if they weren't bastards
Legitimately touching just how much Viserys adores his daughter. And the way he held and talked to his newest grandson? I got emotional when he said, "a fine prince." You could just feel the love in every single word he spoke and how he looked at Rhaenyra and Joffrey.
he only adores her bc she reminds him of his wife he killed
Vhagar is a she, the queen of dragons, probably the largest GoT dragon alive that we will ever see on screen. She's one of the 3 dragons(alongside Meraxes and Balerion) and the only one left alive that helped Aegon conquered Westeros 300 years ago before this show took place.
It actually wasn’t just Harwin that died in the fire, Lyonel, his father, died as well. That was (probably) the body they showed on the stretcher that the soldiers were carrying out at the end.
The walking scene was tough, more power to her for doing it.
The scene with Aegon was getting some satisfaction in the window, is the same window Tommen stepped out to get some air.
Too soon
couple of info about this ep, when the king said he got his father nose ( house strong are knowing for having a DISTINCTIVE noses) vhagar is the oldest and biggest dragon she was one of the 3 dragons in aegon conquest, in westeros religion ( the fight of the seven stranger is the god of death ) when harwin told her I'll be a stranger when we meet again its a subtle way to say I'll be dead, alicent kids are always wearing green
I hate how they cut the scene where daemon was hugging and comforting his daughters it's like they just want to show his bad side
Editor must be like:
*Daemon showing his grief with his daughters*
Nah, cut it out.
*Aegon doing a Homelander impression in the window*
Put that shit in!
They made Daemon seem so cold this ep
To be fair, if something isn't included in the final cut it could be because the director didn't want to portray that in cannon
@@danielruiz8259 that aegon scene was prettt important, establishes aegon, his frat boy just wanna have fun mentality, showing he doesn’t want to challenge rheanyra and Alicent forcing this into him.
@@neneray310 True. Aegon, like most teens, just wants to do his own thing and chill
The way they had to censor Aegon... "enjoying himself..." was hilarious XD
bro was stroking his shit on the windowsill 😂
At least Ser Harwin knew how to play his fucking role, CRISTON.
"Ive been trying to loc my hair for the past, 3 years.. Why wont it loc mom!!!" *Dead* lolololol
Theories i picked up this week:
1.) Dreamfyre, the dragon Aemond saw in the dragonpit that also burned him is the mother of Drogon, Rhaegal, and Viserion (Dany’s dragons).
2.) Helaena is a prophetic dreamer like her ancestor Daenys who foresaw the Doom of Valyria.
3.) Larys is a warg like Bran who instead uses the rats in the castle to spy on people esp the King.
Dragons actually essentially never stop growing. That's why the older, the bigger. It's not once a dragon is fully grown, it will only obey one master. It's when a dragon fully binds to a person, then it won't take commands from another.
They were both on baby no.3. The 4 dragons was just saying Daimons family had 4 people but only 3 dragon riders. The one daughters dragon didn't hatch. (The girl at the fireplace). Hopefully the next kid would, making 4 dragonriders.
Viserys at the end was kissing the ring of his first wife, so yeah he's missing his way nicer wife lol
I noticed the change in Alicent as well. She was really nice and caring in the beginning
@@MrFredstt her design was obvious, and Viserys knew it after he fired Otto as his Hand, but to him, Alicent is just a duty of his crown, and Aemma was the love of his life
The irony is he gave a painful death to his nicer wife.
I observed that Rhaenyra has a fair love for her children and Alicent is portrayed as a woman devoted to duty. Love and duty are the opposite force in GoT
"Love is the death of duty" as Maester Aemon Targaryen Of The Night's Watch once said. All the stories culminate to these two essential themes: Jaime tried to kill Bran because he loved his sister, Jon Snow forced to choose between his honor as a Night's Watchman or his love for Robb Stark as his brother, Robb Stark screwing over Lord Walder Frey for marrying a foreign woman put of love and having dire consequences to his tale. Even the tale of The Last Hero sacrificing his beloved by tempering a burning blade into her heart to save the world from endless winter night.
I love that GRRM instilled that in all the stories of the books and it jumped into the TV adaptations as well.
where was duty when rhaenyra had bastards
Bruh Alicent is just a petty hypocrite dumbass .
@@raytheswift422 she chose love over duty that was the whole point of OP’s comment lol
@@rahjeel Alicent chose duty, which involved seducing the king dowager. This is of course a sacrifice for the sake of the family, but I would not romanticize it. You have chosen examples that support your position, but in the Game of Thrones, not everything is so simple. Who determines our duty and why is it more important than love? Duty led Ned Stark to a senseless death, not love. For the love of his family, he could have been smarter, but duty was more important and he put himself and his entire family at risk and lost his head.
The 1st conversation of the show was Rhaenyra 's mom telling her a woman's battlefield is pregnancy.
so they're showing us alot battles.
Rhaenyra's words have zero value, she's literally just squeezing babies now(A thing that she views as beneath her. The lords of the kingdom don't like her, her authority can be easy overrule by the queen. I expect her to be a boss, but she's all talk.).
The training yard scene is my favorite part of this episode. Ser Criston masterfully baited Ser Harwin. Notice that earlier in the scene he looked at the ramparts and saw that the King is there. So he used this opportunity to bait Ser Harwin, and Ser Harwin being all muscle without brains took the bait. If he didn't assault Ser Criston, he wouldn't have had to go to Harrenhal and get killed.
masterfully lmao, literally everyone in the realm knows about it, viserys was there but couldn't careless about the "bastard" thing. you're acting as if criston is a master manipulator 😂
@@ethelann he is though 😂
@@iconoclast6555 he's not a manipulator lmao, just like what aegon said, literally everyone knows, he just said it out out 🤭
Aegon with the guitar was the BEST!!! I laughed so hard!
Relationships are like flowers... it's the fake ones that lasts the longest
If I were Alicent Larys would've had a lethal accident right after the end of this episode. That man is tooooo dangerous to let live.
That’s why he’s aligning himself with Alicent and not Rhaenyra cuz she would have had him killed immediately.
What do you mean! He's her mew Bestie didn't you say how Cole is now like glue to her after killing an innocent man!!
She only talks about decency when it comes to Rhaenyra lol
@@janetgriffin7779 facts.
@@mimi20101942 just besties killing people and plotting a coup don't freak out okay
Aegon's Holy Diver guitar 'solo' 🤣
The Holy Diver bit had me tearing LOL
Cum! Cum! Cum! on the tiger
Aegon shreddin hard on that neck 💀
Criston baited the strongest knight in the realms,didn’t defend himself,and laughed…..dude is a problem.
He's a beast! He's even more of a beast in the books though. In the books he went up against Harwin in a couple different tournament melees and he beat him every time. The last time they fought criston f***** him up pretty bad, he shattered harwins collar bone & his arm. From then on he was known as Harwin "broken bones" strong.
In the book Criston absolutely destroyed him, made his new nickname Harwin "Brokenbones"
you're acting as if it was such a carefully orchestrated plan lmao, literally everyone knows, he just said it out loud
Daemon didn’t tell laena she overheard the conversation lol you see her get up as daemon is talking to the dude and if you look back it look like he nods no about cutting her open when asked but like she said previously she wants a dragon rider death.
Just one thing, Alicent never slept with the King until they were married. What Alicent did was offer Viserys comfort. She took him through his grief by being a friend and close confidant, which is what he needed at the time.
He is crying because Rhaenyra left, but that isAemma’s ring, can you imagine this guy so in love with his dead wife, that he understands that he murdered, ever doing anything to hurt her grandchildren?
Miguel Sapochnik said that this whole episode was meant to feel like another pilot for the show and DAMN he was right!
I am going to miss the old cast but the new cast is just as amazing. And this whole episode reinforces my belief that hereditary hierarchies cause 90% more harm than good to both “royal” families and the societies they are supposed to rule.
Also as sad as it was I would’ve made the same choice as Laena made, not only is it a quick death but I would rather have it be said that it took a dragon incinerating me to kill me.
did you guys notice how everytime Daemon scene was over they would go to Rhaenery next
These edits always kill me bruh 🤣 Top tier editor!
It's funny how Alicent always claims to stand on what's right and pure but trusted someone who snitched on his family and her former friend. So dumb lol!
She talks alot about DECENCY when it comes to Rhaenyra yet she went behind her back to get with her father after her mother and brother died and doesn't mind trash Cole that killed an Innocent man ...
Do I smell hypocrisy???
@@mimi20101942 I agree! She's the biggest hypocrite of all!!!
Fun fact! At the Small Council they were discussing Lord Grover Tully of Riverrun, ancestor of Catelyn, Edmure, and the Blackfish. Its fun and interesting to note the names of Lord Grover's grandson, Elmo Tully, and Elmo's sons, Oscar and Kermit. They are Lord George R.R. Martin's ode to Sesame Street and the Muppets.
RIP Harwin he was a real one. 🥲🙏🏿
He is a LOSER. He was a sperm donor with zero legal rights. Fathered 3 bastards, cant even publicly show his fatherhood, had no clue how nasty his brother is, and end up getting deleted in his own castle
Aemond gonna surprise everybody watching that’s unfamiliar with the books
Viserys be like: I just wanna build my LEGOs 😢😢
Man Strong's punches sounded so full. They were literally thudding. It was kinda impressive when Cole didn't even had a broken nose.
Aegon with the guitar is top notch editing.
Laena heard Daemon and the surgeon talking about what to do. The fact that the baby wouldn't come, and that it was most likely not going to survive is what drove Laena to head to Vhagar. In the books, she gave birth but the child was misshapen and did not survive. Laena was dying and went to Vhagar, not to be burned, but to have one last ride. But she collapsed and died before she could reach her. So sad.
I feel like the show did Harwin so wrong. He played a larger part in the story than what they showed us. He goes to Driftmark with Rhaenyra for Laena's funeral. He was there longer. Good daddies just don't survive long in Westeros.
It wasn’t his child the king was thinking of but his wife and the decision he made pretty much he misses her
I dont understand why alicent is so salty at Rhaenyra to begin with. like Ma'am you and your father maneuvered yourself into the situation as queen 6 months after your best friend's mom died. Knew she was upset and grieving told her absolutely nothing about you "visiting" her dad yet she gets pissed because rhaenyra went out with daemon because she's salty she can't do whatever she wants because her father put her in that position. Not to mention her father also wanted Rhaenyra as heir b4 all the bullshit because he didnt want daemon to be heir. The kids don't even want to be part of this and just are content to be kids and alicent is pushing her agenda on her son. Then gets on Rhaenyra because she's not having sex with her gay husband.
She's just a salty hypocrite that is gonna start a war .
and yet people defend her and say she did nothing wrong lol
@@mimi20101942 nah she’s all those things and more but in the eyes of the court and the law they all abide by she’s 100% in the right. Rhae need to stop having these damn outside the marriage babies😂 she can fuck whoever she want that was what her and her husband agreed upon but having the fucking kids is a different story especially putting them on the throne!! Having a kid with that man got him killed rather it was some bs or not
@@mimi20101942this ain't black and white
tbh a bastard Targaryen is called Blackfyre and to me that sounds cool lol
It's not every bastard targaryen that's called blackfyre. The blackfyres are just a house that originates from a targaryen bastard
The sister was actually dropping gems tho 😂
vhagar is the oldest and biggest dragon alive at the time, and is also a female dragon lol but she was one of the dragons in aegons conquest to take over Westeros belonging to aegons sister.
Random thing but, at 6:30 the dragon Aemond approaches, Dreamfyre, is actually where the eggs for Daenerys's dragons came from. You can see in a more brightened version of the scene that Dreamfyre looks alot like dany's dragons which is a nice touch
@@whyyoumadbro2370 yup! She’s Drogon’s mom.
Just want to say it is so good to see a group of young adults watching this with fervor and making great comments and analyses. Kudos to you three. subscribed and will watch every one you make.
Helaena was spittin 👀
Book readers know
Aegon Pulled a Homelander🤣
"How many badges you got?" fucking craked me up
YEEEEAAAHHH? damn yall right on time also George RR got a sense of humor naming Lanor bf "JOFFERY LONGMOUF" LOL
Due to incest, it was difficult for Targaryen women, or those mixed with their blood who married a Targaryen, had difficulty having children.
Poor aegon, now everytime he get hard, he will remember his mom scream "YOU ARE THE CHALLENGE!" 😂
He is targaryen. Thinking of his mom when doing things like that is ok, it might even help, afterall they all have incest fetish. 🤣
Your hair is 🔥 Roshi and I cried during the birthing scene just knowing how much pain she must’ve been in then having to walk I couldn’t
Viserys at the end of the season gonna look like The Crypt Keeper
King Viserys in the books loves his daughter Rhaenyra and his grandchildren a lot more and it’s evident to Alicent
Can't blame him Alicent is annoying and his other kids are weird lol
@@mimi20101942 cause he didn't raise them so yes we can blame him
Criston needs to get out his feelings. Bro's taking his frustrations out on children💀
Nah F*&# them kids is what he's thinking
He wasn’t really once harwin decided to stick his head in the situation he just goaded him into all but admitting they are his bastard children. Before that at most he was just giving more attention to aegon.
@@neneray310 But to still be so salty after 10 years? He wouldn't have acted the way he did with those kids if he had never smashed and was still the Princess's personal guard
@@ryzmckenzie in those ten years he has seen rheanyra to continue to break so many rules, act like a privileged brat, pass her bastards off as legitimate and get away with all of it. Bastards, whether or not he hooked up with her beforehand, would probably not be looked upon all that great by himself and many others. A bastard cannot inherit and die to their mother machination they will inherit the throne instead of a true born child like Aegon, aemon or healana.
@@neneray310 Criston didn't seem like he cared about the rules when he asked her to run away with him. Or sleep with the one he was sworn to protect. The Princess had to deal with the cards she's been dealt too. It's not her fault that her husband can't get it up with women
Guys Vhagar is a she-dragon
I love when Viserys is in Father Mode🤣
"when aegon was clearly there egging it on"😂😂😂
Alicent unknowingly made a deal with the devil.
Oh yeah and that other Maestor that suggested a herbal remedy, but was shot down by the Grand Maester, well the old guy died so he became Grand Maester, and I feel like that's the only reason Viserys is still alive lol
Virserys is that nerdy building models type nice dad who just loves his daughter and grandkids so much...
Bro the way I fell in love with Harwin Strong after 1 episode has me dead 😂
This man out here looking like the crypt keeper someone put the king out of his misery
the dragon in the pit that aemond saw is called dreamfyre its the mother of drogon and his brothers in the books helaena is her rider
9:01 Holy shit the Sheeragan activated and she didn't even know it
“Give me two tomatoes and a leather boot.” - Lupa 2022
12:34 I mean he set out to do what he did, he baited the hell out of him and it worked miraculously so I would be laughing too since in my head it would be a win
Daddy Strong deserved better😔
Yeah he deserved to be beheaded because fathering bastards with the crown princess is high treason. It's one of the highest crimes in Westeros because you're interfering with the line of succession.
And yet shitty Cole survived
Shame ....
The bitter Ex and the gossip Queen
I died when I saw that guitar
Lupa laughs like a villain who knows the hero is going thru an ultimatum "the girl" or "the boys" which will he choose 😈😂
The 10 year time jump happens in the book and the players are setting up on the stage
It's not so much that the children have light skin compared to their father, the same thing happend in real life all the time, in some sense what viserys says is right. It's the fact that both their mother and "father" are pure valyrian and have the white/silver hair to show it, but somehow the kids have brown hair
Whoever added the guitar in Aegon's scene... bruh... don't make me spit my coke out like that!
If lupa werent trynna crack jokes every 3 seconds he can pay attention to the show enough to know laena and daemon were a thing and ser harwin was the son of the hand
I like him, but that's the only big flaw in this channel, it's not much the talking but laughing loudly for several seconds distracts him from paying attention, and it kind of ruins the immersion.
See criston cole gone crazy from that targussy
3:59. As a more common one would be Jacaerys, or Lucerys. Also this one's named after Laenor's death boyfriend.
4:13. Fire & Blood readers: *Press X to doubt*
4:25. Speaking of Jacaerys and Lucerys, there they are.
5:45. Huzzah! Mutton for lunch!
6:31. Everyone agrees this one is Dreamfyre. There's also the hint that she's the mother to Drogon, Rhaegal, and Viseryon, seeing as she looks just like them. I've already explained the Elyssa Farman story, so I won't include it here.
7:39. Or there will be rather painful consequences.
9:00 BRO! EDITOR! YOU COULDN'T HAVE INCLUDED THEIR REACTION TO SEEING VHAGAR?! SHE DESERVES SCREENTIME DUE TO THE SHEER BADASSERY SHE EXUDES!!!
9:22. As in House Targaryen's greatest enemies and the ones they've fought four different wars with this far. I include the War of the Hundred Candles, even if it was a completely one sided curbstomping via dragonfire.
12:11. Kick his insufferable arse Breakbones!
12:58. It has been ten years Lupa-san. People change in such a span, as all things do. Best examples being Viserys now has one hand and is balding, and Lyonel is now bald as well, not to mention Harwin looks like he was recast.
13:46. That would be Racallio Ryndoon, and the rumors are true. The hair dying is cultural. As for the dresses, Essosi are also far more relaxed with people's sexuality than Westeros, so they don't mind if a dude crossdresses.
16:12. *Spams X to doubt* Alicent, the Seven Kingdoms are going through a golden age since the final few years of Jaehaerys's reign. Nobody cares about court politics, and Viserys could've given an ambitious second son of one of the coastal houses to rule the Stepstones from Bloodstone, which is basically the biggest of the islands.
There are a myriad of options:
Vaemond of the Velaryons (the Master of Complaints from episode 3)
A Redwyne, whose house has a personal fleet of 200 galleys
He could've picked one from the Shield Islands, since they know naval warfare defending it from Ironborn more than once
There's also House Farman, or Manderly or Borell from the Sisters(the islands north of the Vale), Tarth even due to proximity.
Even the Celtigars or Bar Emmons could've been picked, the former being Valyrians alongside the Velaryons and Targaryens
He even could've picked a Hightower to keep you happy. But instead, Alicent whispers in Viserys's ear and allows the Stepstones to fall back into Triarchy hands, and Targaryen trade is threatened again.
21:57. She technically, but dragons can change their sex when it suits them.
24:46. And there is a special taboo related to kinslaying in this franchise.
24:50. Ya think?!
@@crinjal_mrp It's my thing. Also these three seem to know a bit about Game of Thrones, not about Fire and Blood, which this is based off of, so I'm trying to help fill in any blanks.
Bruhhh that guy who killed his bro and dad is giving MAJOR littlefinger vibes, he’s this shows little finger 😂
is the house of THE DRAGON. singular dude. its killing me every week
2:51 the way he said it the second Rhaenyra looked at Laenor 😅😂
Viserys is now the Crypt Keeper, Daemon apparently got over his "problems" three separate times, and the creepy guy with the cane (I forgot his name) needs a dirt nap.
Aegon the holy div..beater the holy beater.
There have been multiple time jumps. Rhyanera and Alicent were 14 when the show started and 14 years have gone by since the first episode. Daemon's wife's dragon is female.
8:06 I'm dead broo
this editor is amazing
“Villian origin story right here”
Well…yes actually lmfao
Aemond is gonna be great, he’s basically Daemon 2.0. I think because he fights for the Greens(Alicent’s side) he will be one of those characters the audience loves to hate!
Roshi is right. Rhaenyra only made that offer to repair friendships because now most people know that her sons are bastards, so she has to do something. And marrying her bastard son to a true Targaryen is a good way to strengthen his position as the next in line for the throne after Rhaenyra.
But it's ultimately just a band aid. It doesn't do anything to put Alicent's true fears at ease, which is the safety of Aegon and Aemond. Why Rhaenyra hasn't just flat out told Alicent that no matter what she won't harm them is crazy. And ofc Alicent doesn't like the idea of a bastard marrying her true born daughter. That's considered a pretty big insult in GoT as well as in real life medieval Europe.
@@MrFredstt That's true. And that's why it's a shame that most people are so shallow thinking that Alicent is just being bitter and jealous because Rhaenyra has been sleeping around. No, it has always been about the safety of her children since episode 5.
@@iconoclast6555at last, someone gets it
I still don't get why people act like Rhaenyra is so horrible when we all know Cersei did the exact same thing in GoT. At least with Rhaenyra she has a pretty valid excuse in that their families married them even though they knew Laenor was gay.
12:21 "that's disrespectful to say." no it's the truth. if he didn't want people to say that shit about him then he shouldn't have fathered 3 bastards
Bro that edit on the Aegon's part 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 just ended me omg