“Correct the record!” Tory Minister accused of misleading the House
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- Опубліковано 24 кві 2024
- Labour’s Dawn Butler on a point of order accuses Leader of the House of Commons Penny Mordaunt of deliberating creating a false narrative while at the despatch box.
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What an absolute joke that deputy speaker is
She is a night mare
We might actually be in the final days of democracy…. What is all this? People are dying starving jobless.. and these people sit on their high horses waffling… WHAT THE ACTUAL F IS GOING ON???
@@Chatguy3and keep spending thousands upon thousands of pounds on this ridiculous scheme
Along with the speaker.
And the main one
Deputy speaker is the weakest person in politics. She has 0 backbone and never does her job unless forced to. Shocking
isn't she tory?
It isn't really. She is my MP and we've all known for a long time that she's a useless waste of space
Yes@@jmplans
Taking her lead from the speaker.
What do you expect from tories? Competence, honesty? Haha, nice one!
Penny Mordor just got away with lying to the Commons. Typical.
The truth and Tories are not bed-fellows.
Lying to the Commons is a breach of the Ministerial Code and is a resignation matter.
I hope Chris Bryant raises this one at the next opportunity.
Bedfellows with “bad men” most of them...
@@barnigranero5882 The "leader of the house" should also be responsible. She KNEW Penny was lying, and when forced to face proof, she pretends it wasn't deliberate. She was clearly biased towards the tories.
@@cantin8697 Penny Mordaunt is the leader of the house. The woman you're referring to is the deputy speaker.
@@cantin8697 Do you mean the Deputy Speaker?
I agree if that's what you meant.
‘The truth hurts’ FFS that is the most ridiculous, petty and childish retort I have heard all week 🤦🏻♂️
One can only imagine that what she meant to say was "the truth hurts when you're a Tory, that's why we avoid it so often." It's the only possible context in which what she said can make any sense at all.
Petty Mordor.
That's a few more votes the Tories have chucked away by behaving so pathetically. And Mourdant wants to be the leader of her party.
"She lied, here is proof"
"ThE tRuTH hUrtS"
Same old Tory Sc*m.
Dawn Butler got thrown out for calling Boris Johnson a liar, which was an understatement. You clearly can't state the obvious anymore. The speakers since Bercow left have been weak and pitiful.
That's exactly the point. MP's elect them, and given the Tories have a large majority they can put their own lackey in there.
I agree, but the issue is with the politicians. I agree that people should be held accountable, but you can be accountable to yourself. I know Bercow wasn't perfect, but he did call people out at least. I think being the speaker is an extremely difficult job. Like being a football ref.
Dawn Butler calling out the government's lies and then being punished for doing so again.
Dawn never lies though does she? The hilarious traffic stop farce for example
I think she's found her calling. She should make a point of doing this weekly if not daily
@@Panzerfaustchen There's lies and lies that fuck us in the ass as a country. Which lies are worse?
Kind of sums up the absolute state of this country.
You’re referring to same Dawn Butler who cried racism to try and get off a driving charge , shame on you.
Mordaunt is a joke,let us hope this charlatan is never near the levers of power.
She's on the government front bench right now.
... But, THE SWORD!?! THE SWORD?!?
She'll be gone in a couple of months.
What a horrible Tory she is.
That’s tautology.
she really is disgusting.
They've had 14 years and achieved nothing, just made everything worse.
not for the rich, they've never had it so good. and that is the point.
This needs to be a Labour slogan, the Conservatives have had 14 years and achieved nothing! Just made everything worse.
And of course COVID 19
the Lockdowns
and the Ukraine war
has nothing whatsoever to do with it. 🤔😳. 😂😂😂😂😂
@@muttley5958 yes plenty of corrupt profiteering during Covid for friends of the Conservatives. And oh look over there kind of distraction as the Conservatives run the country into the ground!
Wrong they’ve achieved the destruction of Britain
I for one will be very happy to see Penny Mordaunt deprived of her seat at the next General Election.
That's a bit cruel that you want her to lose her Job. 😕
That is part of the game when you become an MP. Were you so sad in 2019 when a lot of MPs lost their jobs thanks to Johnson's lies?
@@johnscotcher9753 But Penny is actually a good egg🥚. I can't understand hating on many of the conservatives. But Penny is a shining light. We need her in oppression
Penny Mordaunt belongs in Reader's Wives rather than Parliament
@@Gavin48 Not when her party have:
* Overseen by far the highest rate of excess deaths during Covid of any European country
* Run down the NHS, to the point where 250 patients per week are dying because they cannot get the operations or medical treatment they need in time
* Funnelled hundreds of billions of pounds into the hands of the super-rich
* Allowed raw sewage to be pumped into our rivers, lakes and coastal waters
* Allowed energy bills to rise so high that the profits of energy companies have increased tenfold,
* Allowed our roads, school buildings, hospital buildings, prison buildings and court buildings to fall into such disrepair as to be on the point of collapse.
* Overseen the biggest rise in child poverty and inequality in modern history
* Introduced profoundly undemocratic legislation, breaking International Laws in the process?
* Enabled landlords to inflict no-fault evictions on thier tenants any time they want to increase their rent, whilst allowing rising damp and mould to take hold in these properties
* Inflicted a VERY hard Brexit on the UK, ending Freedom of Movement, which together with 14 years of austerity measures have prevented the UK economy from properly recovering after the 2008/9 economic crash, and the pandemic.
* Allowed for corruption, ineptitude and irresponsibility at the highest level
And you think I'm being CRUEL? SERIOUSLY?
Only in this country are we stupid enough to protect liars and punish truth callers. What a nest of vipers.
So much shock for accusing someone of lying, but the actual act of lying is fine. Bizarre. The whole system needs to change.
I'd be more than fine for accusing people of lying to not be allowed in the commons, provided the speaker does their job properly by not allowing the lie to go unchallenged. otherwise you'll just end up with everyone accusing their opposition with lying and it'll be chaos.
@@Ajalemes it's fucking chaos now with fuckers lying blatantly knowing they won't have to tell the fucking truth
Isn’t it awful that it’s more serious to accuse someone of lying than actually lying.
Again. The cowardly speaker defends the corrupt party in power.
😂😂😂 and labour butler the box ticker
You mean labour
@@karlwilliams2703 Really. But the white folks in power that are f-in up the country. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh fuck right off with this "inadvertently" language. In trying to implement the rules of the house the deputy-speaker is protecting the government.
The deputy speaker did a horrible job correcting lies. If it’s impossible to call something out she needs to not let slander go unanswered. Parliamentary privilege only works when the speaker moderates debate
..... or when the members of the house have enough integrity to speak the truth.
Sadly, with this government, we are a long, long way from that.
That Deputy speaker is a Current Tory Party Member and MP.
Tells you EVERYTHING you need to know "UNBIASED" MY ARSE!
Unlike the totally unbiased Hoyle you mean? Hoyle who pulls up Tory MPs for the slightest thing while allowing rowdy Labour MPs to behave how they like, and he always gives Sir Beer a big build up and introduces him like the star turn at the palladium.
@@alberttatlock1541 lol no he doesnt. hes useless.
@@alberttatlock1541 Don't know which honk-honk big-shoes-and-bow-tie clown-world Parliament you're watching, but it's not the one in Westminster.
Get her voted out. I never knew she was a serving MP. What a hopeless deputy but so is the Speaker of the House😊
Well you must be ABIT thick butler the box ticker THICK
Why are we paying these people, their childish playground tactics… pathetic
Make them as close to zero seats as you can at this years General Election.
My God! It is disgusting to see how far a person has to go in the Wastemonster system to supposedly not cause offence. Even the truth has to be sacrificed!
You're perfectly allowed to lie --- as long as you're a tory. You're allowed to say extremely offensive stuff --- which are even blatately wrong.
But god forbid you even try to point out the lies and correct them if you're literally any other party... _That_ would be offensive.
Dawn Butler - again - proving that the HoC is incapable of maintaining veracity.
Shame-on-you Mordaunt. A bad loser in advance
So the leader of the house cannot mislead the house because the speaker would have corrected her, but if they don't then what they are speaking is truth?
What stupid rule is that. My god we need reform, that is completely barmy.
You know, I might've MIGHT'VE one day seen Penny as leader and me PERHAPS giving her the benefit of the doubt. That's completely shattered after that exchange and she can fully go in the bin with the rest of them.
Complete and utter worm.
@Brawhammer Well don't you realise the tories are intent on redefining the meaning of everything, after all they have just got away with redefining the definition of "safe" - as in what constitutes as a safe country! They all believe they are above being questioned.
From the same brilliant minds that brought us a bill saying that Rwanda is a safe country, because screw reality.
Oh, look! Mordor once again lying in the house.....and getting away with it.
That woman is despicable. An odious human being of epic proportions, but hey, come the next GE she'll be gone.
Every cloud and all that 👍🏼
If someone lies, you can call them a liar
Not in british politics. Very convenient
What lie though?
ridiculously, you can't explicitly call someone a liar in there or it's against the rules...like wtf
Somewhere along the line, they've forgotten that their titles of honourable/right honourable are actually supposed to mean something.
That's a big problem in our politics today. The rules are based on members being honourable, and therefore rarely bring anyone to account when they're far from honourable!
@@leehenry5764That Labour did not celebrate St George’s day and were set against it. Were you listening boyo?
That bloody speaker is obviously a tory
I hope this isn't let slide. Get her back in to correct the record.
Why do politicians get so upset when people say they are lying?
Is it not a specific requirement of the job role
It’s come to who wraps the most flags around themselves. This is where we are.
"You can't accuse the leader of the house of misleading the house because that would be quite wrong" get this whole fucking system to fuck, what a joke.
Lindsey would be proud of his deputy 'I see no ships'
Penny for Mordaunt's leadership ambitions? That was a pathetic display. Equally the usual weak platitudes from the deputy speaker too. Also, that trash from Mordaunt is perfectly fine yet Rayner calling Sunak a pint sized loser is an outrage?!
Need a complete reset of government
I assume Madame Speaker is a Tory herself…?🙄
So she’s just allowed to mislead then when called out no one does anything about? How and why is this allowed, get Bearcrow back at least he held people to account
Mordaunt has lost her Mojo. Obviously she has been informed she will not be the next Tory leader.
Or re-elected - she has been looking like a bulldog chewing a wasp at PMQs for the past few months.
she could always swap to Reform
@@simoningate2056 was just going to say the same thing. Face like a slapped arse!
She never had any to begin with.
Deputy speaker who sees speaks and hears nothing. Yep. She's a tory alright 👍.
I'm def not a Tory, but I know enough to recognise that she is implementing the rules. Clearly you do not not know that much
@UKAlanR who's rules. Rules according to sunak. Speakers of the House have become a joke. Every time a point of order is asked, they reply with waffle instead of using the true meaning of what is and is not accountable. There's a saying. If a job is too tough . Then move on. Parliament has become a den of jokers . Overpayed and over here.
@@dawngibson2640 Parliament's rules, as detailed in Erskine May. There are reasons and layers of logic that I can't and shouldn't have to go into - you can find out for yourself.
In this case, the DS is trying to help Dawn Butler avoid the charge of accusing another member (Mordaunt) of misleading, while allowing Butler to still make her point. I suspect you'd prefer it if they all screamed at each other the whole time, but it wouldn't get anyone anywhere.
@UKAlanR It wouldn't matter if they screamed at each other anyway. They only have ears for their own voices in that den of eniquity. The nation has had enough of the situation in parliament. Until someone actually stands up in parliament and honestly speaks for Joe public instead of their self survival. I doubt we will ever get an honest country. Your entitled to your opinion. I'm entitled to mine. It's called democracy. I'll leave it there and thank you for your insight to how things are run in Westminster. As for Thomas Erskine may. He was born way before my time. And like all historians I don't necessarily have to agree to his rule of law. Even if the sheep of parliament have to.
When the last Labour leader, who incidentally lives in their minds rent free after 5 years, moved for St George's Day to become a national holiday. That guy was unpatriotic, apparently
Politicians have a habit of "inadvertently" misleading people.
So she will not correct the record lol? so do we have a speaker of the house if they don't do anything ?
👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾
Once again, shows how utterly stupid the rules of the HoC are. There are more consequences for MPs who *accuse* another MP of lying than there are for the actual MP who is lying. It's weak management as shown by the deputy speaker here and has also been shown time and time again by the speaker which has led to British politics being in the utterly shit state it is in right now. Both should leave their jobs ASAP, the stupid rule on not being able to accuse another MP of lying should be dropped. Bring in a new set of speakers who actually have some f*cking balls and who will hold the members of the house to account.
Seems awfully like one side is allowed to throw insults with total impunity and the other side is constantly told to watch what they say!
Well done Dawn Bulter always calling out bull shit
And THAT is our democracy ❗
so not only did lying mordaut mislead the house, she got away with not even correcting the record. what a fantastic job this spineless deputy speaker does. get them OUT!
Accusing someone of misleading ❌
Actually lying ❎
What a joke this country has become 😢
She knew she got away with it so why not add an incredibly childish jibe.
Everything that is wrong with our parliament. A senior politician lies and rather than that being picked up, ite the 'unparliamentary language' used when calling out a liar.
What utter nonsense.
It reminds me of when Angela Reyner called Chris Clarke scum. Because he is. He voted to NOT feed children during COVID. How that doesn't make you anything other than scum is beyond me.
FFS...the whole place is just embarrassing. A club.
How many people leave Britain ever year to emigrated and how many people come here to seek asylum
Also if the leader of the house says something that is factually incorrect - how is it they can’t be wrong? So messed up
Wow, this is unbelievable.
A tory telling a blatant lie and doubling down when corrected? Surely not!
Penny “we must stand up and fight” mordant, what a specimen!
What an absolute disgrace
There's WEFminster and the people locked in a battle for truth and justice...
So they can flagrantly say what they like..?? What's the point then..??
Madness that you cant say someone is lying when its so blatant...
Why do we continue with the ridiculous ‘politeness’ of questioning a statement when it can clearly be shown to be a lie.
The mess this country is in and we get this!
I'm absolutely astonished. I had no inkling that the Tories could sink lower in my estimation. By by jove, the bloody well just did.
Bugger my buttocks and call me Shirley!
That is disgusting by the deputy speaker. What a farce.
Dawn butler brilliant honest lady calling out these lying tories
So, even after lying and being called out for it, then given an easy way to 'correct the record', Penny Arrogant basically tells the Deputy Speakert to shove it!
That was beyond embarrassing.
It’s such BS that you’re not allowed to call out someone blatantly lying on the house. Like wtf even is our political system.
You won't have parliamentary priviledge forever!
So you cannot say that the other side are dishonest, but you can make stupid jokes about their suits, ties, sandwiches. How quaint. Truly a parliament for our times.
Ahh, the "STAND UP & FIGHT" 🪳
So the lie stood.
What a sickening antiquated corrupt arse of a place!
Truly pathetic display from the leader of the house and as for the deputy speaker....
It’s crazy that a Tory politician can lie without reproach, but if another politician calls out that lie, they get admonished!?!?
Not once has the speaker or deputy speaker pulled up an mp or pm, they know to be misleading the house. Not once.
Does the Speaker not realise the Leader of the House treated her as a joke and showed zero respect for her or her office.
How does one balance the obligatory use of the term "Honourable lady/gentleman" and misleading the House by using the term?
Hostile Environment lives on in many new ways!!
What a bloody farce.
Its utterly shocking that the speaker is more worried about the accusation (wanting to suppress it) rather than the actual fault and lets Penny get away with that.
The oppositions need to protest her as a disgrace.
The fact that you're literally not allowed to call anyone a liar in the commons is utterly grotesque.
Penny Mordaunt loves the sounds of her own voice, she will blame everyone else.
Her party have lost the immigrant argument. Her party wasted millions on their mates. It's time this woman was kicked out..
As for Dame Eleanor Laing, the Tory deputy speaker, she is supposed to be neutral but ALWAYS defends the Tories against every body. It is time the Speaker was neutral and not an MP
Forgetting that immigration has BALLOONED under the the tories, particularly from India.
Send the speaker of the house to Rwanda, along with every last damn politician who supposedly claims to "represent " us.
Worst Dep Speaker ever. How she came up with that after Mordaunt's smears is anybody's guess.
Love how the Deputy Speaker is impartial....
15 years of misery , tories out.
She will be claiming jobseekers allowance soon.
FFS!!!! Unbelievable. Bring back Bercow
Please Portsmouth North vote Mordaunt out!!!!!!!
What is the point of having a speaker of the house?
Deliberate lies go unchallenged. Honest challengers are chastised.
Give us a General Election date and we'll show you how much the truth hurts!!!
That was disgusting by the Deputy Speaker. She not useless she’s detrimental
We need such a huge overhaul in the commons it's not even funny.. its really not fit for 2024.
Tory minister lying in her teeth, Tory deputy speaker lying in her teeth and wriggling like a pretzel to mangle the words the minister said -in another way. It’s disgusting.
14 years of incompetence
the joy of this medieval theatre performance...
Not only the Tory Government, but the Deputy Speaker appear to be unfit for purpose. What tripe.
Holy crap, this is unacceptable
Would the speaker kindly ask the leader of the house how she knows that the truth hurts, since it appears she dosent know what truth is.
Dawn Butler accuses Penny of misleading the house. Pots and kettles. This week Sir Kneel says they are the patriotic party, last week they were refusing to have British flag on leaflets.