There have been many comments about 6. Qxd5 in this line (as if somehow I have overlooked it). The move is covered extensively beginning at about the 8:45 mark of this video. Enjoy :)
Terrible is 8. Nxc7?, best is 8.f3 and black is done. You are right though, 3...Nc6 is terribad because counting on opponents to make bad moves is... bad.
You're such a genious! I think most people would probably not understand how valuable is your thinking process: You're sailing in the unseen, understanding what is probably not yet discovered and improoving humanity. Most people copy others to compete on who does same things the fastest and most accurate. If we had at least one billion like you, we could make a better world!
I was excited about this trap (though I play the Jobova as white) until I this simple analysis with Stockfish: .d4 d5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3 .Bf4 Nc6 4.Nb5 e5 5.dxe5 Ne4 6.Qxd5 Bf57.Qxd8+Rxd8 8.f3. Of course, I knew about the Qx d5. I have won with it numerous times. But the critical move is 8. f3. That move creates luft for the king and snuffs out black's meta-trap. White ends up with a 2.5 advantage according to Stockfish. Of course, if white does not find f3, then is in a world of trouble. Graif points this out at around the 16:52 marker in the video, and acknowledges that black is at a serious disadvantage. He also points out (correctly) that in practical play, especially at club level, f3 is *hard* to find f3! Especially in blitz. So my only objection here is that this video claims to bust this trap. It does not. I do remain a fan of these Graif videos. They are really some of the best chess videos out there. Frankly, I think he should write a book on gambits. It would be both instructive and entertaining. I would *buy* that book. I even have a name to suggest for such a book: Adventures In Gambit Land.
Thank you for this! When my opponents play d4, I always play Nf6...hoping to get a chance to play a Budapest or Fajarowicz gambit. When they play the London or Jobava I always get bummed, this is a great tactical resource! 👊👊👊
BTw.......I was playing Jobava with a lot of success, gaining nearly 200 elo......but lately I cant win a game with it at all and I am sure it may be due to this video....glad I discovered it Thank you
I agree this opening is a cheat code to go above 1300 but it has his limits and i got a lot of boring and not at all exciting games when they dont fall in the traps and play correctly so I moved to e.4 to get more intersting game despite the fact its harder lol
Yo I pulled off this queen sac today and was completely pumped about it and went to the database and youtube to see if anyone has done this or has a video on it. Turns out you spotted this more than a year ago! Great insight and breakdown on this, gained a new follower 🙏
Because i played a lot this opening all these trick seems so strong to me while they are so insidious ! Thanks for the ressources I'm sure to have exciting ways of playing against it what has been complicated to me
As a low rated jobs a London player I’m happy I found the knight f3 move myself. I faced this defense and it felt like the blacks positions is fucked so I should just focus on development and attacking with more pieces.
Hi William from France, thanks for the great content . My expérience as black is that people who play the Jobava know that when black plays 5…Ne4 they have a well known queen sack followed by a knight fork if black queen recapture. Your line is good but speculative i think. What do you think?
At 9:22 when you make that special bishop move to f5; f3 looks like a convincing win for white. Black goes Nc5 , White trades queens, king takes is followed by e4 attacking bishop which stops all counterplay. If rook takes queen, then knight can take c7 and after Kd7, e4 attacks bishop.
The fork at 9:06 is a REAL "Royal Fork" (forking Rook, Queen and King)...way to many misunderstand what a royal fork is in comments of videos ....had to say it
So my takeaway as a Jobava player: play Bxe5, go for the fork but just grab on d5 instead of grabbing the rook. Play c3 after Qa5+ (there seems to be nothing better for black here) and sac the knight AND remember an only move f3. Seems very intuitive and easy going afterwords. Have to admit though, you really do have some venemous suggestions against this. So wild how complicate it can get.
Thank you, thank you, and good analysis! And yes, I think you could go for dxe5 and Qxd5, but there's a lot of theory to know of course. Your other option is just not even going 4. Nb5 lol which is also valid :) I do think after 4... e5 5. dxe5 a6!? I already wouldn't want to be white, in my opinion.
8:45 The move by black Ne4 also has another super nasty line if you wrongly play e6 as white: Bc5 threatening CM on f2 (most never see this though!). Nxc7 is played most of the time anyway....and you surprise them with Qxc7......they take you back with Bxc7 and then......Bxf2#. A mega fast CM BOOM
I suppose white can avoid all those complications by playing 6. f3 at 1:55 before Qxd5.... Black could then push g5 but white will eventually end up with 2 extra pawns and a +1.3. Thoughts on that line?
wow interesting! well, a bit chaotic ahah i will use it in the game out of 200 when my opponents will play the Jobava (i faced a jobava litterally 5 days ago in a tournament)
I do not play 5. e6. I play 5. Qxd5 which just about forces 5... Qxd5, but then 6. Nxc7+ K moves 7. Nxd5 and I'm up by three pawns, your center is destroyed, and you can't castle.
Hi William, you are a very talented player, and I hope you become a GM very soon because you have what it takes to become a GM, but as mentioned in the comments, in the videos you should also work more on serious lines which arise often in Grand Master play, I hate to say it,but with these fun and tricky lines,one can't go much far,I should admit that I admire your talent and the excitement of your lines, but also GM lines with longer time controls should be added to the mix, thanks and regards
Excellent video. I myself figured out after some other video that for short time controls it's better just to take on e5 with the bishop first because otherwise there's a huge counterattack and it's actually really hard to defend the a5-e1 diagonal. At 25:11 how about Qc5 which will eventually leave white up an exchange?
I'm from Montenegro, but I think this wonderful gambit should be called the "Serbian gambit" because the Serbs in both big wars just rushed forward without taking into account their victims... and they won both wars even though they lost 50% of the male population….
No!!!! It is 6.Qxd5, after black takes our queen... Qxd5 we have 7. Nc7 + winning a pawn - and the queen back. That is how I play with white and it has the approval of AI stockfish
1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bf4 Nc6 4.Nb5 e5 5.dxe5 Ne4 6.e6 Bxe6 7.Nxc7+ Kd7 8.Nxa8 Qf6 9.Be3 Bb4+, if 10.Bd2 Black has Qxf2#. I don't know how you missed that. Wite must play 10.c3 or he's busted
You forgot to mention the move 7.c3 instead of Nxa8. You can't go just playing moves for White that fall into Black's traps. But thanks for coming up with this line, I am now prepared against 5...Ne4.
@@jonjones820 Yep, Banzea's line ends up winning three pawns, has destroyed black's center, black can't castle, and the queens are gone. It is an easy win for white.
I am using Alex's Jobava learning but recently can't win with it at all due to videos like this....another thing Alex doesnt do is Bg3 after Qf6 (after taking that rook)....instead he suggests e3. It still seems like it loses to the Bb4+ - c3 - Bxc3 - bxc3 - Qxc3+ - Qd2 - Qxd2#. Nolt only that I have run into some of these traps...black just completely destroying me as if every move I made is forced
after Ne4 here's Qxd5.... this is lost lmao and fatter Qf6 f3 white is def not lost... I dont see the point of showing people this if you ignore white getting a +4 advantage
Qxd5 is covered in the video (8:50). Still, I agree with you, this line is horrible for black and the fact that he's trying to justify this line is just... Savage, to say the least.
yep play a "gambit" that relies on white playing 1 of 2 playable winning moves, proceeding to miss Qxd5, and then after all that black could get a slightly better position. No way you thought this was content-worthy
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3.Bf4 Nc6 4.Nb5 e5 5.dxe5 Ne4 6.Qxd5 Bf5 7.Qxd8+ Rxd8 8.f3! not taking the extra pawn and your busted this vid does not refute the Jobava and I am happy when my opponent plays like this.
One should mention tricky and somewhat doubtful Tal's sacrifices,which was good enough for him to even become a World Champion,but I also guess the times have changed
Well, Rapport is a perfect example to contradict your statement, the thing is that you shouldn't play the same "garbage" over and over (you should find a new odd opening trick for every new game, you can't use an opening surprise more than about three times probably) and you shouldn't play something too garbage. But overall who cares about engine's opinion, your opponents even grandmaster ones aren't engines.
@@manishojaee201Real Chess isn't about cheap tricks that gain a win against the unwary, real Chess is being prepared for your opponent playing their best moves, and planning accordingly. Flashy stunts aimed at c7 or f7, are what I call 'anti-Chess'..unsound moves aimed at inexperienced or weaker players. A friend of mine, since lockdown; plays versions of Jobava London, prepped to the hilt with attendant traps, which I constantly ran into, because I disdained what I correctly saw as 'anti-Chess'. The moment I began mugging up on this opening, he was done..zero positional play, lopsided development, ruined pawn structures. It is good to be able to refute traps to advantage with sound play, even better to punish disrespect with such mating nets as presented here.
@@alipakdin7372Tal bamboozled opponents, but how much of his pyrotechnics remain sound? Kasparov and Alekhine also played unsoundly overall, relying upon reputation, error and one-off preparations. Alekhine never rematched Capablanca, Kasparov undone by Kramnik.
There have been many comments about 6. Qxd5 in this line (as if somehow I have overlooked it). The move is covered extensively beginning at about the 8:45 mark of this video. Enjoy :)
Terrible is 8. Nxc7?, best is 8.f3 and black is done. You are right though, 3...Nc6 is terribad because counting on opponents to make bad moves is... bad.
@@wintersresurrection9841 Yes, this not so complicated sequence kills this whole gamble.
You're such a genious! I think most people would probably not understand how valuable is your thinking process: You're sailing in the unseen, understanding what is probably not yet discovered and improoving humanity.
Most people copy others to compete on who does same things the fastest and most accurate.
If we had at least one billion like you, we could make a better world!
Wishful thinking is what it is.....
Stockfish gives white +3.6 after move 7
Achievement unlocked: Stockfish Challenge
Recommend (and justify!) literally the worst move on the board according to Mr. Fish.
Can't White take the pawn on d5 with his Queen, if QxQ then Nc7+ winning back the queen?
2:10
Thank you so much for this I love it...... so hard to play against jobava london until this!
Thank you so much. I'm sorry but I just have to ask, is that your real name? Like the character from The Queen's Gambit?? Lol
I was excited about this trap (though I play the Jobova as white) until I this simple analysis with Stockfish: .d4 d5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3 .Bf4 Nc6 4.Nb5 e5 5.dxe5 Ne4 6.Qxd5 Bf57.Qxd8+Rxd8 8.f3. Of course, I knew about the Qx d5. I have won with it numerous times. But the critical move is 8. f3. That move creates luft for the king and snuffs out black's meta-trap. White ends up with a 2.5 advantage according to Stockfish. Of course, if white does not find f3, then is in a world of trouble. Graif points this out at around the 16:52 marker in the video, and acknowledges that black is at a serious disadvantage. He also points out (correctly) that in practical play, especially at club level, f3 is *hard* to find f3! Especially in blitz. So my only objection here is that this video claims to bust this trap. It does not. I do remain a fan of these Graif videos. They are really some of the best chess videos out there. Frankly, I think he should write a book on gambits. It would be both instructive and entertaining. I would *buy* that book. I even have a name to suggest for such a book: Adventures In Gambit Land.
Thank you for this! When my opponents play d4, I always play Nf6...hoping to get a chance to play a Budapest or Fajarowicz gambit. When they play the London or Jobava I always get bummed, this is a great tactical resource! 👊👊👊
BTw.......I was playing Jobava with a lot of success, gaining nearly 200 elo......but lately I cant win a game with it at all and I am sure it may be due to this video....glad I discovered it Thank you
I agree this opening is a cheat code to go above 1300 but it has his limits and i got a lot of boring and not at all exciting games when they dont fall in the traps and play correctly so I moved to e.4 to get more intersting game despite the fact its harder lol
Yo I pulled off this queen sac today and was completely pumped about it and went to the database and youtube to see if anyone has done this or has a video on it. Turns out you spotted this more than a year ago! Great insight and breakdown on this, gained a new follower 🙏
Hats off
thank u for recommending this to people now if anyone plays it against me i can get a free win
Love it, some great lines that I know a lot of players will fall into. Can't wait to give it a go. Thank you 😊 👌 👍
Started playing Nf6 first as black so I can get the Budapest, this will do great against the Nc3 players
Because i played a lot this opening all these trick seems so strong to me while they are so insidious ! Thanks for the ressources I'm sure to have exciting ways of playing against it what has been complicated to me
Brilliant stuff… gets to the heart of attacking & defending. Bravo.
This is a crazy line, Exactly what I needed. Thank you and keep up the good work 👍🏻
As a low rated jobs a London player I’m happy I found the knight f3 move myself. I faced this defense and it felt like the blacks positions is fucked so I should just focus on development and attacking with more pieces.
3:53 just played this exact game in a bullet (2+1) match. Very satisfying!
Hi William from France, thanks for the great content . My expérience as black is that people who play the Jobava know that when black plays 5…Ne4 they have a well known queen sack followed by a knight fork if black queen recapture. Your line is good but speculative i think. What do you think?
To good to play w/you. Even if you give me your Queen for starts. You are a very good teacher. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👈
At 9:22 when you make that special bishop move to f5; f3 looks like a convincing win for white. Black goes Nc5 , White trades queens, king takes is followed by e4 attacking bishop which stops all counterplay. If rook takes queen, then knight can take c7 and after Kd7, e4 attacks bishop.
The fork at 9:06 is a REAL "Royal Fork" (forking Rook, Queen and King)...way to many misunderstand what a royal fork is in comments of videos ....had to say it
So my takeaway as a Jobava player: play Bxe5, go for the fork but just grab on d5 instead of grabbing the rook. Play c3 after Qa5+ (there seems to be nothing better for black here) and sac the knight AND remember an only move f3. Seems very intuitive and easy going afterwords. Have to admit though, you really do have some venemous suggestions against this. So wild how complicate it can get.
Thank you, thank you, and good analysis! And yes, I think you could go for dxe5 and Qxd5, but there's a lot of theory to know of course. Your other option is just not even going 4. Nb5 lol which is also valid :) I do think after 4... e5 5. dxe5 a6!? I already wouldn't want to be white, in my opinion.
8:45 The move by black Ne4 also has another super nasty line if you wrongly play e6 as white: Bc5 threatening CM on f2 (most never see this though!). Nxc7 is played most of the time anyway....and you surprise them with Qxc7......they take you back with Bxc7 and then......Bxf2#. A mega fast CM BOOM
Very nice
I suppose white can avoid all those complications by playing 6. f3 at 1:55 before Qxd5.... Black could then push g5 but white will eventually end up with 2 extra pawns and a +1.3. Thoughts on that line?
Somebody needs to alert Hans Neimann. His Chessable course may need updating.
Is it all the Von Popiel gambit?
Always has been.
But at min. 4:43 after check with bishop on b4, white did not play c3 but just moved King to e2. What to do then?
Qxd5 is quite the cold shower😅
wow interesting! well, a bit chaotic ahah
i will use it in the game out of 200 when my opponents will play the Jobava (i faced a jobava litterally 5 days ago in a tournament)
I do not play 5. e6. I play 5. Qxd5 which just about forces 5... Qxd5, but then 6. Nxc7+ K moves 7. Nxd5 and I'm up by three pawns, your center is destroyed, and you can't castle.
See 8:51 :)
@@GambitMan "let's keep the pawn deficit at 2"
*Jonathon's 4 pawn gambit video recommended underneath this😂*
After white takes the rook, we don’t care about losing the knight…we don’t try to save it…we just don’t move it anymore.
24:30 yeah the advice to not take on h1 is the best for many scenarios. Instead use the knight fir attacks
Good stuff. Looks like something Morphy would have come up with….
I am more interested about " Biology: Cell structure and function " there
Hi William, you are a very talented player, and I hope you become a GM very soon because you have what it takes to become a GM, but as mentioned in the comments, in the videos you should also work more on serious lines which arise often in Grand Master play, I hate to say it,but with these fun and tricky lines,one can't go much far,I should admit that I admire your talent and the excitement of your lines, but also GM lines with longer time controls should be added to the mix, thanks and regards
Do you think you can make a sort of anti-london that incorporates the Qf6 idea that attacks both the Bishop on f4 and b2?
I have an anti-Jobava London that definitely incorporates this idea, if that counts lol :) I'll try tho
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Excellent video. I myself figured out after some other video that for short time controls it's better just to take on e5 with the bishop first because otherwise there's a huge counterattack and it's actually really hard to defend the a5-e1 diagonal.
At 25:11 how about Qc5 which will eventually leave white up an exchange?
Love this content
Danya's Jobava has a different opening probably due to the trap(s) you propose. Excellent study though....
I'm from Montenegro, but I think this wonderful gambit should be called the "Serbian gambit" because the Serbs in both big wars just rushed forward without taking into account their victims... and they won both wars even though they lost 50% of the male population….
No!!!! It is 6.Qxd5, after black takes our queen... Qxd5 we have 7. Nc7 + winning a pawn - and the queen back. That is how I play with white and it has the approval of AI stockfish
Hi, watch the video, this move is covered :)
instead of dxe5 isn't it just easier for white to play Bxe5 refreshing the threat on c7. So like after that Nxe5, dxe5 and a6 Nc3 seems pretty good
The oponent can play on move 6 queen takes d5🤣
Name suggestion: The FM G OMG Gambit
13:58 this look like something straight out of a Mikhail tal game
Dubious
1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bf4 Nc6 4.Nb5 e5 5.dxe5 Ne4 6.e6 Bxe6 7.Nxc7+ Kd7 8.Nxa8 Qf6 9.Be3 Bb4+, if 10.Bd2 Black has Qxf2#. I don't know how you missed that. Wite must play 10.c3 or he's busted
If the opponent plays Qxd5 instead of e6 I think Ill be quite scared
They should be the scared one :)
The problem is that the best move for White is not 5.dxe5, but rather 5.Bxe5 Nxe5 6.dxe5 Ne4 7.Qxd5. Thank you and good night.
See 21:24
You forgot to mention the move 7.c3 instead of Nxa8. You can't go just playing moves for White that fall into Black's traps. But thanks for coming up with this line, I am now prepared against 5...Ne4.
1:56 and here you get the queen sacrifice by white.
Let's call it the no guts no glory gambit lol most gambit names are whack, about time we had a cool one 😎
Castling as white is often totally fine. Put the knight out of the game and trade more pieces while up some pawns
Almost 1k lets goooo
What about Qxd5 instead of e6 on move 5
8:51
I’d love to see Alex Banzea’s reaction to someone beating him with this. 😂
This isn't the line he recommends. Instead of pushing the pawn, it's 6. Qxd5
@@jonjones820 Yep, Banzea's line ends up winning three pawns, has destroyed black's center, black can't castle, and the queens are gone. It is an easy win for white.
I am using Alex's Jobava learning but recently can't win with it at all due to videos like this....another thing Alex doesnt do is Bg3 after Qf6 (after taking that rook)....instead he suggests e3. It still seems like it loses to the Bb4+ - c3 - Bxc3 - bxc3 - Qxc3+ - Qd2 - Qxd2#. Nolt only that I have run into some of these traps...black just completely destroying me as if every move I made is forced
Morphyesque
It's early in the video; I hope you address 6. Q×d5.
Wish I could try this out online, but I recently quit playing online due to the rampant cheating.
23:20 What about Qg5+ instead of Qa5?
Good question! White will block with e3, with plans of qxd5+ and nf3 (trying to save the rook perhaps) coming in next
@@GambitMan I totally missed that e3 was defended by the queen, i was looking at a king move. 😅 Now i also think Qg5+ isn't very useful lol.
@@misterunknown8923 haha ya np it is a totally crazy position!
@@GambitMan I love it. :)
w +3 defense
4:11 - Bd2 will be blunder due to Qxf2#
Haha yes good point!!
after Ne4 here's Qxd5.... this is lost lmao
and fatter Qf6 f3 white is def not lost... I dont see the point of showing people this if you ignore white getting a +4 advantage
8:51 lol
and? its still plus 4 lmao@@GambitMan
Wait white can play qxd5 they are winning?
Hi, that move is extensively covered in this video starting at 8:45 :)
6. f3 kicking knight
The owT Knights Defence?
Perpetuum mobile !
Qxd5 and the fork to win the queen back is just totally winning for white so its a bad gambit
Eeerr, wrong, lol. I'm a jobava player and I definitely no not play e6 there ...go ahead try it. 😂😂😂
K2F is mate too
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Any jobava player worth their salt will take with the bishop not the pawn and crush you.
What you said is blunder. Instead playing e6, you have thé great moves Q*d5 winning a second pawns.
Hi, this move is actually extensively covered in this video :) starting at around 8:45
But wait white will play the well known Qxd5 after we pay Ne4, no?
Lol okay I watched the rest of the video and you've got it covered!
First!
This does not work. Because of QxD5 and if black queen takes then you fork the black queen. This line is bad for black .
Qxd5 is covered in the video (8:50). Still, I agree with you, this line is horrible for black and the fact that he's trying to justify this line is just... Savage, to say the least.
Works if your opponent is 1600.
Haha I take challenges! Against all rating levels :)
Lichess.org/@/wgraif
yep play a "gambit" that relies on white playing 1 of 2 playable winning moves, proceeding to miss Qxd5, and then after all that black could get a slightly better position. No way you thought this was content-worthy
Interesting for the surprise value but still almost losing for black. So... 🤷
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3.Bf4 Nc6 4.Nb5 e5 5.dxe5 Ne4 6.Qxd5 Bf5 7.Qxd8+ Rxd8 8.f3! not taking the extra pawn and your busted this vid does not refute the Jobava and I am happy when my opponent plays like this.
6. Qxd5 wins easily for white, as usual when looking from black perspective, not the best moves are presented.
Comparing cheap trap to tall sacrifice to complicate the game really?? 😂
Black is -4.8 on turn 5. This video is pure clickbait and BS.
So tired of such idiotic gambits being played and promoted everywhere
6. Qxd5
Playing garbage at master level is the perfect way to not reach GM level
Pretty sure he wouldn’t play this otb 😂😂😂
One should mention tricky and somewhat doubtful Tal's sacrifices,which was good enough for him to even become a World Champion,but I also guess the times have changed
Well, Rapport is a perfect example to contradict your statement, the thing is that you shouldn't play the same "garbage" over and over (you should find a new odd opening trick for every new game, you can't use an opening surprise more than about three times probably) and you shouldn't play something too garbage. But overall who cares about engine's opinion, your opponents even grandmaster ones aren't engines.
@@manishojaee201Real Chess isn't about cheap tricks that gain a win against the unwary, real Chess is being prepared for your opponent playing their best moves, and planning accordingly. Flashy stunts aimed at c7 or f7, are what I call 'anti-Chess'..unsound moves aimed at inexperienced or weaker players. A friend of mine, since lockdown; plays versions of Jobava London, prepped to the hilt with attendant traps, which I constantly ran into, because I disdained what I correctly saw as 'anti-Chess'. The moment I began mugging up on this opening, he was done..zero positional play, lopsided development, ruined pawn structures. It is good to be able to refute traps to advantage with sound play, even better to punish disrespect with such mating nets as presented here.
@@alipakdin7372Tal bamboozled opponents, but how much of his pyrotechnics remain sound? Kasparov and Alekhine also played unsoundly overall, relying upon reputation, error and one-off preparations. Alekhine never rematched Capablanca, Kasparov undone by Kramnik.
I am Jobava player and this Line is very bad sorry
10:04 they can... it comes with check... Also u just seem to be guessing, not providing any deeper instances...