Wow...this is the BEST setup so far I've seen agenst the Jobava... I've played some of these moves 45 years ago but I'm not a GM so I'm ALWAYS the STUDENT...EVER LEARNING...ONE CAN NEVER STOP LEARNING IN CHESS... fhanx man I LOVE YOUR DEFENCE AGENST THE JOBAVA...👍🏽
I have worked with a different, but similar response to the London System based on computer derived "best moves ", but this video is helpful. I eventually have to get in the C5 pawn move, but good to see how to get it in sooner. I see the London System so often now, it has become annoying. I know if I can make it to 10+ moves, that the opponents will be out of their preparation.
21:14 Although it's a Benoni structure, it's actually a well-known theoretical position which usually arises from the Trompowsky attack. Namely 1.d4 Nf6 2.Bg5 c5 3.d5 Qb6 4.Nc3!? Qxb2 5.Bd2 Qb6 6.e4 d6 7.f4.
@@ArcG3 As a Trompowsky player with the white pieces, that position immediately looked quite familiar! Thanks for the video. Can't wait to try this against some London players at the club!
Actually, after 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bf4 c5 3. c3 Qb6 White has a dangerous gambit after either 4. Nbd2 or 4. Nf3. This has to be covered before recommending Qb6. I'd rather just play 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bf4 c5 3. c3 e6 4. Nf3 b6 5. e3 Bb7 6. Nbd2 Be7 Black has a dynamic position and doesn't have to trade queens with a symmetrical pawn structure.
"cross" instead of saying "takes" or "captures" is something I've never heard of before, especially in my own notation I use a colon ":" not "x" for capture. Very weird.
Good video of a simple and logical anti-London system. Worst that can happen is game transposes to a Benoni or Benko, where white wasted a tempo on useless Bf4.
Very interesting side line but as every youtuber coaching chess does, you also fail to mention the strongest variation for white. After 3.e3 Nd5 4. Bg3 Qb6 white has the move 5. c4! which is a very powerful counterattacking move. if you take Q:b2 white plays 6. cd5! Q:a1 7. Qc2! Your queen is trapped and white has an obvious advantage. Black can try 5... Nf6 and after 6Bd3! the position is maybe playable for black but he has to know a lot of forced variations to avoid getting a lost position. For example, after 6Bd3! black cannot take 6... Q:b2? as after 7. Ne2! Q:a1 8. Qd2! his queen again gets trapped and his position is worse.
Good analysis! Sorry, I can't go over every single variation otherwise the video would be way too long. While 5. c4 is a very strong move, it's not a very commonly played one. If I went over every possible move, not only would the video would be hours long, it'd also be too hard and not practical to memorize everything.
At first Stockfish thinks it’s -1 after Qxb2, but about 20 move in it turns out to be +0.7-1.0. Black basically gives back a rook but has a strong passed c pawn on c3. It’s very complicated and you’re likely going to win if you have better opening preparation.
This video was uploaded before Agadmator uploaded his anti-London video or published any of his London prep! However, you are correct that the lines in this video are similar to the lines Agadmator has shown on his channel.
@@chickengames5504 Yes! All of these lines are my personal, custom-created prep. I'm currently on a content hiatus, but I will consider making an extended version once I return to content creation!
On 11:57 isn't taking the bishop a blunder or a mistake due to queen c2 (I know I'm late to this video but hope you respond im really trying to learn this)
Thank you! I have been facing d4 Nf3 in otb classical chess and it's aggravating given how rare that opening is online. I also counter d4 with Nf6 (hoping to play the Budapest) so I'm glad The Algorithm showed me this video. Very helpful!
Wow...this is the BEST setup so far I've seen agenst the Jobava... I've played some of these moves 45 years ago but I'm not a GM so I'm ALWAYS the STUDENT...EVER LEARNING...ONE CAN NEVER STOP LEARNING IN CHESS... fhanx man I LOVE YOUR DEFENCE AGENST THE JOBAVA...👍🏽
This is really great, everyone plays the London now (not me) so this should help a ton.
I have worked with a different, but similar response to the London System based on computer derived "best moves ", but this video is helpful. I eventually have to get in the C5 pawn move, but good to see how to get it in sooner. I see the London System so often now, it has become annoying. I know if I can make it to 10+ moves, that the opponents will be out of their preparation.
this is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks mate!
Word per word what I wanted to say!
21:14 Although it's a Benoni structure, it's actually a well-known theoretical position which usually arises from the Trompowsky attack. Namely 1.d4 Nf6 2.Bg5 c5 3.d5 Qb6 4.Nc3!? Qxb2 5.Bd2 Qb6 6.e4 d6 7.f4.
I never knew that!
@@ArcG3 As a Trompowsky player with the white pieces, that position immediately looked quite familiar!
Thanks for the video. Can't wait to try this against some London players at the club!
Who says 'cross' instead of 'takes' ?? sounds all wrong.
Also eat
That’s what I came to the comments to ask. Cross?
@@niranjannair3633Some language use “eat” for “capture” in chess e.g. Thai.
Bro shut up. Who cares? It doesn’t negatively affect your learning experience (unless you’re an asshole too worried about regional speech).
The best anti-London teaching video I have seen-very complete but concise-Thank You!
I'm so glad you found it helpful! ❤️
i like your content! more videos like this would be great! thanks
I really appreciate it!
Actually, after
1. d4 Nf6 2. Bf4 c5 3. c3 Qb6
White has a dangerous gambit after either 4. Nbd2 or 4. Nf3. This has to be covered before recommending Qb6. I'd rather just play
1. d4 Nf6 2. Bf4 c5 3. c3 e6 4. Nf3 b6 5. e3 Bb7 6. Nbd2 Be7
Black has a dynamic position and doesn't have to trade queens with a symmetrical pawn structure.
Great Content !
Thank you!
"cross" instead of saying "takes" or "captures" is something I've never heard of before, especially in my own notation I use a colon ":" not "x" for capture. Very weird.
Thank you so much! I've been looking for lines like this for a long time.
Good video of a simple and logical anti-London system. Worst that can happen is game transposes to a Benoni or Benko, where white wasted a tempo on useless Bf4.
Great video! What I was looking for
Love the diss on London players lol.
Also, I was really surprised when you said we were already 20 minutes in. You are very entertaining!
Thank you so much! 💗
Very interesting side line but as every youtuber coaching chess does, you also fail to mention the strongest variation for white. After 3.e3 Nd5 4. Bg3 Qb6 white has the move 5. c4! which is a very powerful counterattacking move. if you take Q:b2 white plays 6. cd5! Q:a1 7. Qc2! Your queen is trapped and white has an obvious advantage. Black can try 5... Nf6 and after 6Bd3! the position is maybe playable for black but he has to know a lot of forced variations to avoid getting a lost position. For example, after 6Bd3! black cannot take 6... Q:b2? as after 7. Ne2! Q:a1 8. Qd2! his queen again gets trapped and his position is worse.
Good analysis! Sorry, I can't go over every single variation otherwise the video would be way too long. While 5. c4 is a very strong move, it's not a very commonly played one. If I went over every possible move, not only would the video would be hours long, it'd also be too hard and not practical to memorize everything.
At first Stockfish thinks it’s -1 after Qxb2, but about 20 move in it turns out to be +0.7-1.0. Black basically gives back a rook but has a strong passed c pawn on c3. It’s very complicated and you’re likely going to win if you have better opening preparation.
If any1 wondering this opening is called Agadmator's Anti-London System
This video was uploaded before Agadmator uploaded his anti-London video or published any of his London prep! However, you are correct that the lines in this video are similar to the lines Agadmator has shown on his channel.
@@ArcG3 oh OK btw is this all your preparation? Can u make an extended version? I play the grünfield against c4
@@chickengames5504 Yes! All of these lines are my personal, custom-created prep. I'm currently on a content hiatus, but I will consider making an extended version once I return to content creation!
@@ArcG3 yayy tyy
11:45 fork K and Q, Nc3+
what about the move order with Nc3 first before the bishop comes to c5?
Thank you so much, i can finally crush some london people!
Doesn’t white have promising compensation after 4. c4 (in the 3. e3 line), after black grabs on b2 and a1 (what else?)?
On 11:57 isn't taking the bishop a blunder or a mistake due to queen c2 (I know I'm late to this video but hope you respond im really trying to learn this)
Thanks!!
This is a great antidote to the London. Do you have any tips if they play 2.Nf3 instead of Bf4?
I would play 2... d5 3. Bf4 c5!
Thank you! I have been facing d4 Nf3 in otb classical chess and it's aggravating given how rare that opening is online. I also counter d4 with Nf6 (hoping to play the Budapest) so I'm glad The Algorithm showed me this video. Very helpful!
good stuff!
In the first line, with e3, White should meet Qb6 with c4.
c4 is a strong response, but in my opinion a large majority of White players will not play this move
@@ArcG3 I think they will only play c4 if they’ve seen this try for Black before, it’s not something you find OTB
I dont even play chess but this was nice to watch 👍
Cheers bud! Subscribed :-)
Thank you!
At 11:46 when white plays Ke2, why not black play Nc3+??
Nc3+ is a great alternative. Nice eye!
Thank you very much
My pleasure!
Thank you very much! I don't like the London too!
*either is better to say
Subbed w notifications, this vid was super helpful and I’ll be watching ur old vids, hope you get a chance to come back soon
Thank you! I'll be back one day. Just gotta finish university first haha
3.c3 from 08:40 to 20:20
Great video! How to access the lichess database? thx
In the Lichess analysis board, find the icon of a little book and click it! You might need to create an account to access it.
It works
Petition to call it the brexit variation
Haha, I love it!
Go blue hail to the victors
Finally